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This is rigged as hell frisk shouldn't be able to load because it is a game in a game and sans should not have karma damage and you are nerfed the knight like hell wich is were you belong
You forgot to allow the knights to use the shade which is basically after you destroy the physical body the shade appears and it has half HP rounded down
That was definitely one of the Knights Alternative "abilities" (I have it on my spreadsheet) and I agree would have been fitting but everyone has so many abilities I'd never get this finished if I did them all!
@PotatoWaffle33 Yes, the knight can't be controlled or manipulated bc it doesn't have a soul or mind, so this is actually an unfair fight since he kinda bended the rules and wasunbias
Did you really need to nerf The Knight that much? You barely mentionned Descending Dark (best spell they have by far), you completely ignored Shade Cloak (which just lets them dash right through attacks) and you didn't let them use Void Heart. That last one would make sense, to make the battle not completely one-sided... but then you let Frisk use their power to turn back time at will. (Also since when can Frisk just... gain 19 levels by doing literally nothing?)
thats what im saying, like karma cant damage those who haven't killed many people, the knight had some of his most powerful abilities not recognized in the battle yet frisk was allowed to swap from pacifist to genocide for some reason
Hi there! It can be tricky to find a balance that makes sense for the real fight and the "pokemon battle" mechanics since attacks never happen at the same time. Here is how Descending Dark would work: Deals x damage and dodges any attack made on the same turn, consumes soul. The only issue is, Frisk in undertale ALWAYS attacks 1st - so for pokemon mechanics she would already get an attack off before the Descending Dark - we could make descending dark a priority move (like quick attack) - so yes I could have probably included that move - however just like Zero from ep 1 Frisk can essentially repeat fights until they win, meaning for you guys to watch I either only show the outcome that they do win (which I did), or I show you 30+ minutes of almost the same thing over and over and we still get to the same result (eventually given enough tries, Frisk by chance or by skill dodges everything and its back to where we started!) As for Karma, The Knight and Quirrel have 100% killed things in their journey through Hallownest, specifically in the team cherry comic Quirrel is shown killing some smaller critters - sure its in self defense but you can argue self defense for undertale as well as everything is trying to kill you on that as well! And Finally - It is true Frisk gaining 19 levels was a bit inaccurate to the game - but remember LV on undertale means "Level of Violence" basically, intent to kill - after using "check" on the knight and realizing there was no getting through to it via peaceful means they now know they must kill and thus their "Level of Violence" increases. But the real reason: I wanted to showcase both sides of Frisk - if it makes you feel more comfortable just pretend the character made a new save file and got back up to the same part of the "game" but this time at level 20 on a genocide run =P
The Knight was actually hyperbuffed remember he's (at most) 2 inches Tall and monsters don't have determination or any kind of will so the Knight wouldn't be able to siphon soul from them
I loved it but I must agree that the shade should have been there. Also if you let frisk save and load then so should the knight cause he literally dies and comes back at the last save
Ngl I think I sorta realized the team lineup for UNDERTALE being a lil reference "Judge, Jury, And executioner Sans: The Judge Frisk: The Jury Asgore: The Executioner
17:32 GODDAMIT TOBY Omg this fight was amazing!! You definitely improved from the last one and it shows! I love the little details on the sprites (kudos to yogurcomics for those) and the actions that frisk does are so adorable!!
I immediately knew this would end badly when you picked Quirrel instead of someone like Hornet, the Radiance, Sly, or the Pure Vessel. It felt rigged from the start, but it was still very fun to watch.
Letting frisk just.. decide to become max level feels like cheating, as well as changing soul colors on demand not to mention, frisk literally only has the power of a human child, monsters are the only things they're a real danger to.
If we go off canon, the humans are SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than regular humans AND monsters in waterfall theres a message that states no humans died in the human monster war showing how op the humans are in UT I agree on the soul changing thing though thats bs aside from yellow mode with the phone
@@TrueKin01 No, humans aren't super strong in undertale, monsters are just super weak. The only thing you need to completely demolish them is violent intent, how physically capable you are is irrelevant. Monsters get hurt more the more you want to hurt them, and the less they want to fight. Humans in undertale are still completely normal beings, just with souls that happen to grant godlike power when a monster aborbs them.
@@Moss_Dude in the beginning poem of undertale it is said that the monsters were locked underground with a MAGIC spell, implying that the humans can use magic to an extent with that most likely being DT, also to say that monsters are just weak is outright wrong, since undyne casually suplexs a large bolder "just because she can" also, the only reason the human children made it as far as they did is because of them all being all to save and load and them most likely "playing the game" very differently from how you do in base UT I also have to make a correction in my original statement since some humans most likely did die but the monsters weren't able to absorb their souls before they shattered.
Technically, the green soul mode doesnt give you a shield, it actually just prevents you from escaping, if you purposely get hit by all 3 bullets on her first attack she'll use it again and have unqiylue dialogue for each time you do it, one of which revealing she granted you a slear to block attacks
I'm thinking about switching the format to 1v1's which means I'll be able to make quicker and more focused vids, celeste could be a good candidate for that! (No promises though!) Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed!
Not going to lie the fight was one sided from the beginning. Frisk was too powerful the knight wasn’t at its full strength and sans shouldn’t have done karma damage to quirl. But amazing good job
1 frisk was always going to solo the knight, she can literally reset until she wins, no matter how strong knight would be, besides if it was full power Asgore could absorb the 6 human souls and absolutely demolish everything with his God like power (even stronger omega flowey, literally), also Bscotch pie is a full heal so even in battle frisk got underpowered anyway 2 why shouldn't karma work on quirell? If you think 'oh karma doesn't work unless target has high LV' thats literally never mentioned, nothing even remotely implies that
@ ok fine, let’s give the characters at their full potential. Quriel vs sans: sans knight vs frisk: tie maybe depends on the context nightmare king Grimm vs Asgore: nkg victory
I actually feel like Knight's Soul Absorbtion was overlooked cause like... That's what it sounds like, overtime the more Knight hit Frisk the more soul it would've absorbed, nullifying Frisk's ability to come back the more soul Knight absorbed, that should've been a game changer right there and I don't know why not many are talking about it
@Neeeeewt the white lady tells you that you're free of the impurities found in the hollow knight. He wasn't casted aside because of impurities, he just wasn't the first to the top, the cosen vessel was also impure, and that's the reason you have to go and either take his place to seal the radiance within yourself or eliminate the radiance entirely
@Neeeeewt well, I think there's still a chance the knight is also impure, because it's quite an imprecice concept, but basing off of what the white lady tells us, it's probably pure
Ok so the way I made the trident work (but to not overload the fight with too much I didnt add text for it) is it forces anyone hit to only use direct damage moves (like how taunt works on pokemon) but since NKG ONLY had damage moves I didn't bother specifying. What I will do is a few shorts going over each move and the mechanics I had in mind as some don't come into play (eg NKG flame trail was supposed to damage anyone doing a melee attack afterwards but by chance Asgore never did one on the same turn)
13:34 wow so genius to use shield against the attack that GOES THROUGH SHIELDS AND BE SUCCESSFUL!!! 10:29 also here knight was able to pogo of Sans’s bones by using nail and don’t say that that Sans was holding him or something because in undertale when Sans was doing that attack he stopped using his telekinesis and after attacked with bones and you were able to avoid it and finally where is knight’s shade and shadow dash?
This video is pretty cool, but I still feel like the knight would just turn into the void lord and then immediately one shot everyone (and nightmare King Grimm can easily kill asgore just saying)
Hey, I know this isn't related to the video, but have you heard of a channel called Pokédex Fillers? When I saw this, I just immediately thought of how cool it'd be to have you two work on something together!
Sans (ghost/dark) [Ability: Shortcut. Any incoming attack is avoided until the Pokémon gets exhausted, when it will fall asleep for the rest of the battle]: "Despite being so weak, it has great speed, so it usually wins most of its fights... most..." Frisk (normal)/Frisk Geno (normal/fighting) [ability: Determination. When the opponent's pokemon heals in anyway, it creates a checkpoint to come back stronger after going down]: "Not many have survived its enraged form, but not many can't say no to its pacifism" Asgore (Steel/Fire) [Ability: Monsterkind. A king gives all to his people, nobody can run from the battle]: "It is uncertain why despite apparently having everything this Pokémon still feels so unhappy, but it serves as a motivation to give hope to its similars". Quirrel (Bug/Fighting) [ability: Monomon. A powerfull mask protects the Pokémon from all damage from non-priority contact moves]: "It once had a live previous to the one it had, but it can't remember as a part of its duty". The Knight (Ghost/Dark) [Ability: Regrets. After being defeated, the shadow of the Pokémon still attacks enemies for a 3 turns]: "It can heal itself and cast various spells using the soul gathered through its nail, which is its first selfdefense weapon" NKG (Dark/Fire) [Ability: Nightmare Heart. Gets an increasing Atk and SpeAtk as health decreases and if attacked before in its first turn] "It is said it lives in a world different from ours, where nightmares and reality fuse. Always acts as if it was in an Theatre act"
Great video! I love how well you translate game mechanics to Pokemon moves and abilities. I also love the little interactions in the battle like The Knight not giving a single crap about ACTs, Frisk immediately skedaddling after seeing Grimm, Asgore hesitating to kill, etc. I will say that while I like how you translated Frisk to this format, I feel like including them made the outcome kinda predictable. Team Hollow Knight had no way of getting past SAVEs. I think opting for Undyne or Mettaton instead would've made things more fair.
@@Vegathron actually the knight should have won despite the saves becuase he can use his dash and frisk can only gain levels by killing wich didnt happen at all so yeah team hollow knight should have won this
After Sans killed Quirrel, he should have respawned because he sat on a bench. Also the knights nail slash should have been multi-hit because Gaster Blaster for Sans takes like 2 seconds to charge (-ish just an estimate) and in that time, the knight can land 6 nail strikes. This should have been an easy win for team hollow knight.
I love how I check on this channel after like half a month (I don't want to spoil myself on Nine Sols when I still have to go through it ^^) and I get blessed with this video! I'll watch it after work asap :D Hollow Knight vs. Undertale is definitely my dream video for this ngl
What would actually happen: an endless battle between Quirrell and Frisk, where the first will never die because he is not on the battlefield, and the second because he is constantly loading
It's funny how the author is aware of the power of the ability to save and load. I still wake up in nightmares after the author's choice for the "katana zero" team.
There is something called "Skill neatrulize" between verses like JJK Mahito needs to touch an person's soul to transfigure them but other anime characters like Goku doesnt have an soul like JJK so they use "Skill neatrulize" to yk use transfigure with or without the soul so its an fair fight. It applies with Sans and Knight and every character
Next, do Hollow Knight vs. Ori and the will of the wisps. Both games had a bit of beef with each other after accusations of Ori copying Hollow Knight. It would be ironic and epic if you made a battle between these two metroidvanias. Ps, if you do this, I will sub
Next time rematch with most op characters in HK (Absolute Radiance, NKG and Shade Lord) vs most op characters in UT (pacifist Asriel, Omega/photoshop Flowey and Asgore) perhaps?
Hollow Knight absolutely neg diffs, I doubt the power of willpower and determination will do anything to literal gods and the God Of Gods the only thing that determination could do is restart the fight but that doesn’t change the fact that I don’t doubt that the God of Gods would literally be untouchable and instakill Frisk and would likely cause Frisk’s determination to wane ultimately winning over time or just do a Flowey I mean they are gods what’s really stopping that from happening (I don’t know if I’m underestimating Undertale right now and it’s 2am and I’m dead tired right now and I just realized this wasn’t about Shade Lord vs Frisk and I ranted this much so I’m going to sleep now)
The problem I have with this fight is that genocide Frisk should've been determined to kill the Nightmare King Grimm instead of fleeing. In a genocide run Frisk is determined to kill every last monster in the underground. This battle SHOULD'VE ended with Frisk demolishing everyone. I understand it was more balanced this way but it still feels unsatisfying. I also think Flowey should've been chosen instead of Asgore. In my opinion, this should've been entirely one-sided in favor of Undertale due to the characters' immense power and ability to time-travel back and forth.
You know what I think is there's so many characters in hollow knight so it would go differently if different characters were use like hornet and there's also knight with his charm build meaning the knight can have different charms like flukenest and defenders crest
Yep no doubt this isn't Hollow Knights optimal lineup however in the 1st episode (check it out if you haven't!) Hornet is part of that Hollow Knight team and I figured seeing the same characters over and over might be less interesting :) Flowey would be insane and pretty fun but my brain melts just thinking of converting his mechanics to pokemon (Frisk was tricky enough!)
Don't get me wrong, this video was great, but I think that team HK was significantly underpowered. Quirrel vs Sans was done very well, but the knight was drastically restricted in its abilities while Frisk was buffed. Ashore was done pretty well, but NKG was extremely nerfed, as he is actually one of the top 5 hardest bosses in the game, probably 3rd imo. I think that NKG should not have been hit every time, because you gave sans his dodge, but neglected the fact that for about half of the fight, NKG is blinked away and you can't attack him. He also didn't get enough balloon phases and wasn't dealing enough damage. Most of his attacks are aoe, but asgore is HUGE and NKG would have had a LOT of projectiles hit him for the spike floor attack, and balloon attack to name a few, and they should have done more damage.
When hanging out with undyne in waterfall doing pacifist run, she says that asgore can dodge and block. Also sans can cheat in a fight btw but thats just a small detail idk how can someone do it in a pokemon-style fight. Anyways good video and keep up the good work :)
Quirrel won't get KR damage due to KR damage only activating when a foe has done many bad deeds. The knight won't be affected by telekanesis due to him not having a soul, once the knight is dead it drops a shade which should also be used in combat it would've been cooler, regardless of the knight having void heart or not it will still drop a shade. (Just a pointer for ya🤗)
As a fan of both games this was very cool, although I feel like somethings in this wouldn't work in this setting. For example, I don't think sans' spare thing makes sense here because there are no reasons shown for them to fight so there would be no reason for sans to trick quirrel and there would be no reason for quirrel to accept. I understand though that these things were included to showcase the characters abilities rather than to make complete sense because a battle like this wouldn't make complete sense anyway. Also I feel like frisk saving and the knight dropping a shade and respawning at the last bench are fairly similar abilities that are both canon but frisk got extra with the genocide part too while the knight didn't get a shade at all I'm just nitpicking a bit and it doesn't overly matter. I can tell a lot of work went into it and translating characters into a battle like this isn't easy. I didn't even know or don't remember the Asgore leaving you at 1hp thing. This was very cool and I'm glad I found it
Hey man! I really appreciate that you kind of "get it" in the way that, while the ultimate result of who wins is accurate in my my oppinion, some things were done to showcase the abilities and keep it a fun viewing experience! Right on!
While I will say that I from the start figured Undertale would win no matter what due to Frisk’s save/load ability, I do wonder why HollowKnight was given the team it did. While I can understand not giving The Knight VoidHeart because of the nonsense that comes with a being able to devour the realm of GodHome. I still wonder why HollowKnight was not given The Radiance (or Absolute Radiance if you’re willing to take GodHome variants) and PureVessel (again if GodHome things aren’t allowed something like WatcherKnights could’ve been an interesting concept as well as a strong fighter). While I do love HollowKnight to death, I’ll admit I knew they would lose from the start, but I still do wonder why they were given the cast they were.
Okay I'm just going to say the night could have just phase through some of frisk or Sans attacks with shade dash and that ability doesn't require charms to use.
Remember that Sans lost to a boy with a knife and a lot of determination while the Knight defeated the king of nightmares and a deity of light and dreams, Besides, knight is not afraid of killing
One Thing, One Thing Made Them Win, One Thing. Also I Don't Know If It Would Change The Outcome Of The Battle In Any Way But The Knight Can Respawn On The Last Thing He Sat On Or The Last Place He Lost Consousness Depending On The Circumstances, And NKG Is A Literal Nightmare How Do You Kill A Nightmare
Frisk shouldn’t get to revive because it’s a part of the game. You could say that about every single video game main character because they respawn if they die.
And, by what some hk theories suggest, and the description of the voidsoul charm, it would have made the knight .ore vulnerable to emotional and mental tactics.
Great video but sans can still dodge after sleeping its frusks second supruze attack that kills sans maybe you could have done it by sans geting killed by a two hit attack or on the second attack after sleeping
Well in your opinion this is how it woukd go going by the actual power levels of these characters in their game would make this trivial though aka knight could win all on his own
I kinda don't disagree, Undertale has characters that can delete reality itself. You also underestimate the ability to go infinite retries I think. HK is certainly strong but not reality deleting strong.
@Vegathron i think yes cuz the knigth beats the radiance who created a large amout ouf dimentions that are stated to be infinite size and separated from each other just that i did not went to deep in undertale lore but from what ive seen i think the knight wins just that
Radiance can beat all undertale character cuz they have hopes and dreams and little ghost can respawn like frisk so he can beat sans from the first time cuz he shurly tried and died befor that undertal cannot beat Hollow knight
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I never noticed in the last one but the knight doesn’t have the gender symbol that’s awesome
Hey nice to see you@TheFlamingSlayer! Yeah I do try and get details like that accurate! Same for Frisk since its sort of left purposefully vague.
Episode 2!! Cool👍
This is rigged as hell frisk shouldn't be able to load because it is a game in a game and sans should not have karma damage and you are nerfed the knight like hell wich is were you belong
@@SegevBenHayon Sir, this is a RUclips video.
Calm down
Bro The Knight just being no emotions against Frisk is just funny. Especially considering how I thought Frisk was the one with zero of the emotions
But butterscotch pie healing wasnt really a 11hp thinking that frisk had like 2hp and butterscotch pie heals full hp
Don't forget that Sans can't use Telekinesis on the Knight because he's got no SOUL.
He got plenty of soul, all stolen from others
@@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 Sans tries to attack and the dessicated corpses of like ten bugs just go flying all over forgotten crossroads
Knight has no soul??
Dude literally got an entire soul meter with 3 mini ones 😭
@@trouxcyfn160 the main one has 99 units of soul and the little ones combined have around another 99
Also, karma damage only works on those whi killed everyone, so quirrel shouldn't of taken karma damage as they only killed monomon
You forgot to allow the knights to use the shade which is basically after you destroy the physical body the shade appears and it has half HP rounded down
That was definitely one of the Knights Alternative "abilities" (I have it on my spreadsheet) and I agree would have been fitting but everyone has so many abilities I'd never get this finished if I did them all!
We all knew quielll would be cooked after sans used to spare his just a chill dude…
0:00. Just started but hollow knight fucking wins, this isn't even a debate
they should have win but they DIDN’T BECAUSE VEGATHRON RIGGED IT
@PotatoWaffle33 Yes, the knight can't be controlled or manipulated bc it doesn't have a soul or mind, so this is actually an unfair fight since he kinda bended the rules and wasunbias
yeah and used weak ass characters like quirrel and gave undertale sans
If Undertale got Sans why didn’t Hollow Night get Great Prince Zote to annoy everyone.
@@Zote-t7s sans is weak 1 hp the asiest enemy.
Did you really need to nerf The Knight that much? You barely mentionned Descending Dark (best spell they have by far), you completely ignored Shade Cloak (which just lets them dash right through attacks) and you didn't let them use Void Heart. That last one would make sense, to make the battle not completely one-sided... but then you let Frisk use their power to turn back time at will. (Also since when can Frisk just... gain 19 levels by doing literally nothing?)
thats what im saying, like karma cant damage those who haven't killed many people, the knight had some of his most powerful abilities not recognized in the battle yet frisk was allowed to swap from pacifist to genocide for some reason
Yeah, this fight was completely wrong, hollow knight should have easily won
True. So true.
Hi there!
It can be tricky to find a balance that makes sense for the real fight and the "pokemon battle" mechanics since attacks never happen at the same time. Here is how Descending Dark would work: Deals x damage and dodges any attack made on the same turn, consumes soul.
The only issue is, Frisk in undertale ALWAYS attacks 1st - so for pokemon mechanics she would already get an attack off before the Descending Dark - we could make descending dark a priority move (like quick attack) - so yes I could have probably included that move - however just like Zero from ep 1 Frisk can essentially repeat fights until they win, meaning for you guys to watch I either only show the outcome that they do win (which I did), or I show you 30+ minutes of almost the same thing over and over and we still get to the same result (eventually given enough tries, Frisk by chance or by skill dodges everything and its back to where we started!)
As for Karma, The Knight and Quirrel have 100% killed things in their journey through Hallownest, specifically in the team cherry comic Quirrel is shown killing some smaller critters - sure its in self defense but you can argue self defense for undertale as well as everything is trying to kill you on that as well!
And Finally - It is true Frisk gaining 19 levels was a bit inaccurate to the game - but remember LV on undertale means "Level of Violence" basically, intent to kill - after using "check" on the knight and realizing there was no getting through to it via peaceful means they now know they must kill and thus their "Level of Violence" increases.
But the real reason: I wanted to showcase both sides of Frisk - if it makes you feel more comfortable just pretend the character made a new save file and got back up to the same part of the "game" but this time at level 20 on a genocide run =P
The Knight was actually hyperbuffed remember he's (at most) 2 inches Tall and monsters don't have determination or any kind of will so the Knight wouldn't be able to siphon soul from them
What if Team Cherry spawning Absolute Radiance/Pure Vessel
Something everyone seems to be forgetting:
*FRISK IS UNABLE TO DIE.*
Other than that, Hollow Knight Team slaps.
I loved it but I must agree that the shade should have been there. Also if you let frisk save and load then so should the knight cause he literally dies and comes back at the last save
Problem is, I’m pretty sure saves aren’t diegetic in Hollow Knigh, when they are in Undertale. They even refer to shades as regrets
@@tulatula6314it was shown in deepnest that the knight does actually come back to life it's not just a game mechanic.
@@tree4444wait what? I actually can’t remember this please remind me what you are referring
@@tree4444yea when did this happen exactly???
Ngl I think I sorta realized the team lineup for UNDERTALE being a lil reference "Judge, Jury, And executioner
Sans: The Judge
Frisk: The Jury
Asgore: The Executioner
If we weren’t fighting Pokémon style, team hollow knight woulda absolutely won
It would’ve won anyway but they were nerfed
I don’t know if they would have won but yea san and asgore would be pretty useless
11:59 Having Frisk's file time be the same as the video time was a nice detail to add
First person to notice, Good eye!
The fact he didn’t add the gods tho like the radiance or flowey / Asirel after he exert all the souls
Its was way to stacked in undertales favor when frisk could just say "nuh uh"
17:32 GODDAMIT TOBY
Omg this fight was amazing!! You definitely improved from the last one and it shows! I love the little details on the sprites (kudos to yogurcomics for those) and the actions that frisk does are so adorable!!
I immediately knew this would end badly when you picked Quirrel instead of someone like Hornet, the Radiance, Sly, or the Pure Vessel. It felt rigged from the start, but it was still very fun to watch.
And it was like this that Undertale characters all died... BECAUSE THEY CHALLENGED A LITERAL GOD!!!!
Yes but they were nerfed and none of undertale characters were
They are 2 inches tall so that needs to be considered for there feats
@kirillkurinnoi2512 you are right tho
Letting frisk just.. decide to become max level feels like cheating, as well as changing soul colors on demand
not to mention, frisk literally only has the power of a human child, monsters are the only things they're a real danger to.
If we go off canon, the humans are SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than regular humans AND monsters
in waterfall theres a message that states no humans died in the human monster war showing how op the humans are in UT
I agree on the soul changing thing though thats bs aside from yellow mode with the phone
@@TrueKin01 No, humans aren't super strong in undertale, monsters are just super weak. The only thing you need to completely demolish them is violent intent, how physically capable you are is irrelevant. Monsters get hurt more the more you want to hurt them, and the less they want to fight. Humans in undertale are still completely normal beings, just with souls that happen to grant godlike power when a monster aborbs them.
@@Moss_Dude in the beginning poem of undertale it is said that the monsters were locked underground with a MAGIC spell, implying that the humans can use magic to an extent with that most likely being DT, also to say that monsters are just weak is outright wrong, since undyne casually suplexs a large bolder "just because she can" also, the only reason the human children made it as far as they did is because of them all being all to save and load and them most likely "playing the game" very differently from how you do in base UT
I also have to make a correction in my original statement since some humans most likely did die but the monsters weren't able to absorb their souls before they shattered.
@@Moss_Dude the not super strong humans literally erase the world in genocide bro what are you smoking
@@GraysonLemon that's not because of being a human, that's because of the game
Technically, the green soul mode doesnt give you a shield, it actually just prevents you from escaping, if you purposely get hit by all 3 bullets on her first attack she'll use it again and have unqiylue dialogue for each time you do it, one of which revealing she granted you a slear to block attacks
Fantastic video! I personally would love to see Celeste and Ori! I know Celeste isn’t the perfect fit for a Pokemon style fight, but it would be fun!
I'm thinking about switching the format to 1v1's which means I'll be able to make quicker and more focused vids, celeste could be a good candidate for that! (No promises though!) Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed!
@ Thankyou for making it, I enjoyed it!
I just really want to see Ori :)
Not going to lie the fight was one sided from the beginning. Frisk was too powerful the knight wasn’t at its full strength and sans shouldn’t have done karma damage to quirl. But amazing good job
1 frisk was always going to solo the knight, she can literally reset until she wins, no matter how strong knight would be, besides if it was full power Asgore could absorb the 6 human souls and absolutely demolish everything with his God like power (even stronger omega flowey, literally), also Bscotch pie is a full heal so even in battle frisk got underpowered anyway
2 why shouldn't karma work on quirell? If you think 'oh karma doesn't work unless target has high LV' thats literally never mentioned, nothing even remotely implies that
@ ok, but good job on getting quirels personality well
@ yeah sorry I’m a bit of a hollow knight nerd
@ ok fine, let’s give the characters at their full potential. Quriel vs sans: sans knight vs frisk: tie maybe depends on the context nightmare king Grimm vs Asgore: nkg victory
@@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508I love the video though! No hates
I actually feel like Knight's Soul Absorbtion was overlooked cause like... That's what it sounds like, overtime the more Knight hit Frisk the more soul it would've absorbed, nullifying Frisk's ability to come back the more soul Knight absorbed, that should've been a game changer right there and I don't know why not many are talking about it
12:34 the Knight has some emotional skills thats why he was inpure and casted aside
Not that knight, the hollow knight was the impure one
@Siddler the knight was impure all of the vessels where that's why the knight was casted aside dream no more is also the main good ending
@Neeeeewt the white lady tells you that you're free of the impurities found in the hollow knight. He wasn't casted aside because of impurities, he just wasn't the first to the top, the cosen vessel was also impure, and that's the reason you have to go and either take his place to seal the radiance within yourself or eliminate the radiance entirely
Ok I understand but my brain just doesn't want to believe for some reason:(
@Neeeeewt well, I think there's still a chance the knight is also impure, because it's quite an imprecice concept, but basing off of what the white lady tells us, it's probably pure
Btw, nkg doesn't bow, only regular grimm does.
haha yeah you are right there but the whole aesthetic of the bowing is so cool and part of Grimm I thought I'd include it anyway!
15:00
It would have been sooooo cool if Trident Throw also restricted escape.
Ok so the way I made the trident work (but to not overload the fight with too much I didnt add text for it) is it forces anyone hit to only use direct damage moves (like how taunt works on pokemon) but since NKG ONLY had damage moves I didn't bother specifying. What I will do is a few shorts going over each move and the mechanics I had in mind as some don't come into play (eg NKG flame trail was supposed to damage anyone doing a melee attack afterwards but by chance Asgore never did one on the same turn)
If you had used Pure Vessel or Radiance instead of Quirrel team Hollow Knight would have won. Cool video but there should be a rematch! 👍
They are all 2 inches tall
@@jennyharris1853 yeah but that doesn't make the fight fun now does it?
you should have made zote the first charecter he would have soloed
That would actually be hilarious. Found my April fools vid idea =P
13:34 wow so genius to use shield against the attack that GOES THROUGH SHIELDS AND BE SUCCESSFUL!!! 10:29 also here knight was able to pogo of Sans’s bones by using nail and don’t say that that Sans was holding him or something because in undertale when Sans was doing that attack he stopped using his telekinesis and after attacked with bones and you were able to avoid it and finally where is knight’s shade and shadow dash?
This video is pretty cool, but I still feel like the knight would just turn into the void lord and then immediately one shot everyone (and nightmare King Grimm can easily kill asgore just saying)
Two inches tall
@@jennyharris1853 3 ft tall
Hey, I know this isn't related to the video, but have you heard of a channel called Pokédex Fillers? When I saw this, I just immediately thought of how cool it'd be to have you two work on something together!
Hey there! No I haven't heard of that one! I will be sure to check it out!
Sans (ghost/dark) [Ability: Shortcut. Any incoming attack is avoided until the Pokémon gets exhausted, when it will fall asleep for the rest of the battle]: "Despite being so weak, it has great speed, so it usually wins most of its fights... most..."
Frisk (normal)/Frisk Geno (normal/fighting) [ability: Determination. When the opponent's pokemon heals in anyway, it creates a checkpoint to come back stronger after going down]: "Not many have survived its enraged form, but not many can't say no to its pacifism"
Asgore (Steel/Fire) [Ability: Monsterkind. A king gives all to his people, nobody can run from the battle]: "It is uncertain why despite apparently having everything this Pokémon still feels so unhappy, but it serves as a motivation to give hope to its similars".
Quirrel (Bug/Fighting) [ability: Monomon. A powerfull mask protects the Pokémon from all damage from non-priority contact moves]: "It once had a live previous to the one it had, but it can't remember as a part of its duty".
The Knight (Ghost/Dark) [Ability: Regrets. After being defeated, the shadow of the Pokémon still attacks enemies for a 3 turns]: "It can heal itself and cast various spells using the soul gathered through its nail, which is its first selfdefense weapon"
NKG (Dark/Fire) [Ability: Nightmare Heart. Gets an increasing Atk and SpeAtk as health decreases and if attacked before in its first turn] "It is said it lives in a world different from ours, where nightmares and reality fuse. Always acts as if it was in an Theatre act"
This is brilliant, love it!
@@Vegathron Glad to hear that =)
This is great! However I think a slight critique is geno frisk should be normal dark/ fighting dark considering what they have done.
@@ethanthaman2858 ye, I can see that
Great video! I love how well you translate game mechanics to Pokemon moves and abilities. I also love the little interactions in the battle like The Knight not giving a single crap about ACTs, Frisk immediately skedaddling after seeing Grimm, Asgore hesitating to kill, etc.
I will say that while I like how you translated Frisk to this format, I feel like including them made the outcome kinda predictable. Team Hollow Knight had no way of getting past SAVEs. I think opting for Undyne or Mettaton instead would've made things more fair.
Undyne would have been really fun to do, If there was a 4th member she was 100% going to be it! and Yeah Frisk OP
For the save this is depend of if we are in undertale universe of not
@@Vegathron actually the knight should have won despite the saves becuase he can use his dash and frisk can only gain levels by killing wich didnt happen at all so yeah team hollow knight should have won this
After Sans killed Quirrel, he should have respawned because he sat on a bench. Also the knights nail slash should have been multi-hit because Gaster Blaster for Sans takes like 2 seconds to charge (-ish just an estimate) and in that time, the knight can land 6 nail strikes. This should have been an easy win for team hollow knight.
I love how I check on this channel after like half a month (I don't want to spoil myself on Nine Sols when I still have to go through it ^^) and I get blessed with this video! I'll watch it after work asap :D
Hollow Knight vs. Undertale is definitely my dream video for this ngl
Hey good to see another familiar face! I hope it lives up to the dream! =D
@@VegathronIt sure did
When your level 100 knight doesn’t one shot the level 1 child:
Everyone else: dies.
Frisk: alright im outta here
Shouldn’t muffeet be replaced with Flowey after all he’s a far more notable character
What would actually happen: an endless battle between Quirrell and Frisk, where the first will never die because he is not on the battlefield, and the second because he is constantly loading
It's funny how the author is aware of the power of the ability to save and load. I still wake up in nightmares after the author's choice for the "katana zero" team.
There is something called "Skill neatrulize" between verses like JJK Mahito needs to touch an person's soul to transfigure them but other anime characters like Goku doesnt have an soul like JJK so they use "Skill neatrulize" to yk use transfigure with or without the soul so its an fair fight. It applies with Sans and Knight and every character
17:32 team cherry at the slightest inconvenience. In all seriousness great video
Sans when No Guard walks into the room:
Honestly real tho
Next, do Hollow Knight vs. Ori and the will of the wisps. Both games had a bit of beef with each other after accusations of Ori copying Hollow Knight. It would be ironic and epic if you made a battle between these two metroidvanias.
Ps, if you do this, I will sub
bet that, hk is going to DESTROY ori, and if hk doesn’t, EVERYTHING IS RIGGED.
Was he using the fan made dlc during the Knights part?
Yes he did
My only real complaint is shade soul not being able to go through Frisk's shield. This was a great video!
Love the hollow knight vs. undertale in pokemon theme! It's very cool.
Next time rematch with most op characters in HK (Absolute Radiance, NKG and Shade Lord) vs most op characters in UT (pacifist Asriel, Omega/photoshop Flowey and Asgore) perhaps?
Hollow Knight absolutely neg diffs, I doubt the power of willpower and determination will do anything to literal gods and the God Of Gods the only thing that determination could do is restart the fight but that doesn’t change the fact that I don’t doubt that the God of Gods would literally be untouchable and instakill Frisk and would likely cause Frisk’s determination to wane ultimately winning over time or just do a Flowey I mean they are gods what’s really stopping that from happening (I don’t know if I’m underestimating Undertale right now and it’s 2am and I’m dead tired right now and I just realized this wasn’t about Shade Lord vs Frisk and I ranted this much so I’m going to sleep now)
The problem I have with this fight is that genocide Frisk should've been determined to kill the Nightmare King Grimm instead of fleeing. In a genocide run Frisk is determined to kill every last monster in the underground. This battle SHOULD'VE ended with Frisk demolishing everyone. I understand it was more balanced this way but it still feels unsatisfying. I also think Flowey should've been chosen instead of Asgore. In my opinion, this should've been entirely one-sided in favor of Undertale due to the characters' immense power and ability to time-travel back and forth.
BREAKING NEWS: Weird bug thing seen assaulting a small child.
Just imagine a conversation between frisk and the knight💀
1:03 You spelled Gaster wrong!!! >:( It's gastEr blaster, not gastOr blaster.
My brain was on vacation when I wrote that. Thankfully I spelled it correctly everywhere else =P
Snas be playing 6d chess
Delaying silksong another year hit hard. Too real
You know what I think is there's so many characters in hollow knight so it would go differently if different characters were use like hornet and there's also knight with his charm build meaning the knight can have different charms like flukenest and defenders crest
You chose Quirrel over Absolute Radiance / Pale King / Pure Vessel???
We need more of this
Hornet instead of quirel would have been cool, and flowey would have been cool in this
Yep no doubt this isn't Hollow Knights optimal lineup however in the 1st episode (check it out if you haven't!) Hornet is part of that Hollow Knight team and I figured seeing the same characters over and over might be less interesting :) Flowey would be insane and pretty fun but my brain melts just thinking of converting his mechanics to pokemon (Frisk was tricky enough!)
Don't get me wrong, this video was great, but I think that team HK was significantly underpowered. Quirrel vs Sans was done very well, but the knight was drastically restricted in its abilities while Frisk was buffed. Ashore was done pretty well, but NKG was extremely nerfed, as he is actually one of the top 5 hardest bosses in the game, probably 3rd imo. I think that NKG should not have been hit every time, because you gave sans his dodge, but neglected the fact that for about half of the fight, NKG is blinked away and you can't attack him. He also didn't get enough balloon phases and wasn't dealing enough damage. Most of his attacks are aoe, but asgore is HUGE and NKG would have had a LOT of projectiles hit him for the spike floor attack, and balloon attack to name a few, and they should have done more damage.
Soooo no chara? They have world destroying power
Grim went in with the clutch. I wish that frisk would have sparred though
why is this so good i love it
I'm a bit confused why the b.scotch pie did not full heal, but whatever.
When hanging out with undyne in waterfall doing pacifist run, she says that asgore can dodge and block. Also sans can cheat in a fight btw but thats just a small detail idk how can someone do it in a pokemon-style fight. Anyways good video and keep up the good work :)
Quirrel won't get KR damage due to KR damage only activating when a foe has done many bad deeds.
The knight won't be affected by telekanesis due to him not having a soul, once the knight is dead it drops a shade which should also be used in combat it would've been cooler, regardless of the knight having void heart or not it will still drop a shade. (Just a pointer for ya🤗)
Nightmare isn't polite, who is polite is normal Grimm. NKG in game just want to kill us and it's all
Priceless
As a fan of both games this was very cool, although I feel like somethings in this wouldn't work in this setting. For example, I don't think sans' spare thing makes sense here because there are no reasons shown for them to fight so there would be no reason for sans to trick quirrel and there would be no reason for quirrel to accept.
I understand though that these things were included to showcase the characters abilities rather than to make complete sense because a battle like this wouldn't make complete sense anyway.
Also I feel like frisk saving and the knight dropping a shade and respawning at the last bench are fairly similar abilities that are both canon but frisk got extra with the genocide part too while the knight didn't get a shade at all
I'm just nitpicking a bit and it doesn't overly matter. I can tell a lot of work went into it and translating characters into a battle like this isn't easy. I didn't even know or don't remember the Asgore leaving you at 1hp thing. This was very cool and I'm glad I found it
Hey man! I really appreciate that you kind of "get it" in the way that, while the ultimate result of who wins is accurate in my my oppinion, some things were done to showcase the abilities and keep it a fun viewing experience! Right on!
You should've put markoth instead of quirrel .....but all together w vid man
There are just too many cool choices man! I want to do them all but its not realistic sadly.
17:32 I mean, at least Deltarune is coming out
>:(
I love deltrune but silksong
So this is why silksong is still getting delayed and deltarune is coming out with more content
Dr.Gaster vs Radiance. Just saying¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You forgot about how when he does it summons a black ghost
While I will say that I from the start figured Undertale would win no matter what due to Frisk’s save/load ability, I do wonder why HollowKnight was given the team it did. While I can understand not giving The Knight VoidHeart because of the nonsense that comes with a being able to devour the realm of GodHome. I still wonder why HollowKnight was not given The Radiance (or Absolute Radiance if you’re willing to take GodHome variants) and PureVessel (again if GodHome things aren’t allowed something like WatcherKnights could’ve been an interesting concept as well as a strong fighter). While I do love HollowKnight to death, I’ll admit I knew they would lose from the start, but I still do wonder why they were given the cast they were.
Okay I'm just going to say the night could have just phase through some of frisk or Sans attacks with shade dash and that ability doesn't require charms to use.
Would be REALLY funny if shade lord was a part of this (chara too as I am fairly certain they can just erase stuff)
Remember that Sans lost to a boy with a knife and a lot of determination while the Knight defeated the king of nightmares and a deity of light and dreams, Besides, knight is not afraid of killing
apart from the fact that the karmic attribution does not affect him because he has no mind to think
I would like to say that the knight can avoid being damaged if it had shade cloak
One Thing, One Thing Made Them Win, One Thing. Also I Don't Know If It Would Change The Outcome Of The Battle In Any Way But The Knight Can Respawn On The Last Thing He Sat On Or The Last Place He Lost Consousness Depending On The Circumstances, And NKG Is A Literal Nightmare How Do You Kill A Nightmare
Why didn't the Knight spawn the shadow and then don't just collect it to continue the fight?
Frisk shouldn’t get to revive because it’s a part of the game. You could say that about every single video game main character because they respawn if they die.
Wait we ain’t gonna talk
About pie vessal
This is so unbelievably unfair for Undertale…
if the Radiance was there.
why is quirrel and grim here? shouldn't it be the knight hornet and hallow knight
probably but quirrel best boi so he gets a pass, and grim probably threatened arson to vega to be added in
@@averyblurryduck749true
I'd personally find some way to kill monomon so quirrel doesn't have to give back the mask
the music is from pokemon uranium right?
@thescarletking9 correct yes.
Amazing video!!
And, by what some hk theories suggest, and the description of the voidsoul charm, it would have made the knight .ore vulnerable to emotional and mental tactics.
Interesting point!
Shouldn't the pie be a full heal? 🤔 12:48
This is an amazing animation nonetheless!
The pie heals for 99hp, while everyone (at least everyone on the Hollow Knight side) had 200hp or 300hp
Yeah this was 1 mistake I'll admit, should have fully healed. Wouldn't have changed the outcome but still it does irk me I forgot the full heal!
Not accurate nkg doesnt bow asgore only hesitates against humans and frisk can easily dodge same as quirell
EXACTLY, THIS VIDEO IS SO NOT ACCURATE
Great video but sans can still dodge after sleeping its frusks second supruze attack that kills sans maybe you could have done it by sans geting killed by a two hit attack or on the second attack after sleeping
YOU DONT MENTION THE GREAT PAPYRUS, BUT YOU MENTION SANS OF ALL PEOPLE?, DESPICABELE
17:30 I'M FUKCIGN DYING
Aren’t the hollow knight characters bugs. Are they actually as large as humans/monsters or are they the size of like spiders?
Why did npt sans swich out?
Frisk be like: NOPE NOT DEALING WITH A DEMON
I like to imagine it as "I'm bored now. OH look over there! A flower!"
@@Vegathron it's still kinda ironic that geno frisk just leaves mid fight lol
Well in your opinion this is how it woukd go going by the actual power levels of these characters in their game would make this trivial though aka knight could win all on his own
Feat and lore wise hollow knigth slams undertale
I kinda don't disagree, Undertale has characters that can delete reality itself. You also underestimate the ability to go infinite retries I think. HK is certainly strong but not reality deleting strong.
@Vegathron i think yes cuz the knigth beats the radiance who created a large amout ouf dimentions that are stated to be infinite size and separated from each other just that i did not went to deep in undertale lore but from what ive seen i think the knight wins just that
You should add Nine Sols to this
Butterscotch pie fully heals...
It's not Karmic Retribution it's just KARMA. OK?
THATS SICKKK!!
Radiance can beat all undertale character cuz they have hopes and dreams and little ghost can respawn like frisk so he can beat sans from the first time cuz he shurly tried and died befor that undertal cannot beat Hollow knight
Radiance can beat anything with brain
not really seeing as some undertale characters like omega flowey, asriel and chara can manipulate time, destroy worlds etc.