I have always admired your ability to keep your emotions in check regardless of what the horse you're riding is doing. Being able to laugh off all the immature moments is such an important element in the training of greener horses and it's something that is so much easier said then done...you do it impeccably well. I really enjoyed watching you work with Gottum here, he is a lovely mover and I am excited to see how he will mature over time.
I just can't say enough how much I appreciate that your whole method involves making your horses comfortable, ensuring they feel their best, and setting them up for success. Well done, keep up the awesome work, and as always, thanks for sharing!
You are an amazing equestrian! Bringing a racehorse off the track and beginning the patient work of transforming him into a new life off the track is an awesome feat! I love how you treat each horse individually and teach it to relax, engage the mind and develop confidence in new activities!
Wow. what a beauty he is. He has magnificent form, his head shows his intelligence. Gottum is a winner in more ways than one. Cannot wait for the next video. Thank you for posting.
I LOVE your wholistic approach to training horses...... it’s fab that you mentioned making sure the horse is “feeling” better..... I hope these horses realise the wonderful home they have landed themselves in 😍
This is so much fun to watch. Sometimes I think you use Gorilla Glue on your pants the way you ‘stick’ your seat. These videos are so helpful I want to see lots more! I think you’ll go far with him. Thanks!
Hey I really enjoyed your video..You take really good care of your horses which is something I really appreciate to see. All good positivity and I know you both will kill it. I learned a lot as someone who will be training their second thoroughbred this upcoming year 2021.
What a little stinker!!! He goes much better to the left, even by the gate. He may have some physical issues that are caising the behavior to the right. Nice horse, especially once you get him all together! Which I know you will. Thanks for sharing🌹
Thus why it’s really important to have chiro/massage, vet, farrier, all working together to make sure the horse is on the right track. It can take a process to get them to unwind all of their baggage.
You are an amazing trainer. I love watching how you deal with issues. I appreciate how you show understanding, slow things down and handle his antics and energy. He definitely has baggage from his former life. He seems intelligent and once he learns to relax will perform well for you. Maybe he wants to be a cutting horse though (albeit with birds) 😜
Just a wonderful work you're doining. I love how you give him all the time he needs. No pressure. Just very slowly and calm you repeat an repeat, until he understands what you want and until he is in the right mood to do
Hello, I am thinking of taking a 6 year old thouroughbred, she raced a couple of times three years ago but prefers life in the slow lane they said. Nice natured, good to hack, kids have ridden her. I wondered would you say they could be more likely to bolt? Sorry if that's a silly question, I have never owned one, thanks x
Could you maybe do a video on why you start them with no saddle? Also, do you have videos of Johnny's training? I saw an event video, but I want to see more of how you got there.
I just found your channel and watched the mustang challenge. Loved seeing your work with them. Then checked other vids and saw this one. He is a beautiful horse! How long have you had him? I can see he still has that "race horse" mentality! You have such a smooth and gentle training method that I love! Glad I found your channel and have subscribed🙂
Gottum’s temperament reminds me strongly of my old OTTB, Satin Swan-Whenever he was tense, his energy came out in an apparent temper tantrum-he got bunched up and wild-eyed and would canter in place. Unlike Gottum, he didn’t curl over but got giraffe-necked. He got a lot of chiropractic work, including a huge adjustment where his neck was badly “out”right behind the poll, plus a lot of dental work to correct a pronounced overbite, plus a bit change to a French mouth snaffle that did not poke him in the roof of his slight parrot mouth. It took me a while to learn to go along with these antics, but the less fuss I made about them, the less he wanted to do it. These episodes dwindled from about once a week to once a month once every six months to once a year. Even when he got a lot older, every once in a while he would react like this again. I think it was his way, as a young horse, of expressing his anxiety about being at the track. He had one of the best temperaments of any horse I’ve ever seen, and he was good as gold most of the time later, but I never sold him because I was too afraid that someone else would interpret his tense moments as his being “bad “ And punish him for it, which would’ve had the exact opposite effect than calmness. He really taught me a lot, and after a few years he become such a kids horse that I’ll kinds of children got their first rounds on him. With them, he never acted like anything but an old plow horse. A very, very smart chap.
I kept him for 12 years until, very traumatically, he shattered a pastern playing in the field all by himself. He was my heart horse, partly because it took me so long to figure him out, but there was nothing he wouldn’t do for me once we got on the same wavelength. I miss him terribly. I’m so glad that Gottum has ended up with someone who knows how to hold his hand and get the best out of him.
Question for you. My OTTB has regressed back to avoiding contact and does exactly what gottum does when he gets tight. He is good on the ground work but can get rushy. And when I ride is when he avoids any contact from previous abuse. Just want to start him over with understanding he is not going to get punished. Love your videos and all you do with your horses!
Try ground driving first. Sometimes it’s easier to teach them from the ground. Teaching them voice commands and the connection without the rider on the back can help. and also make sure his tummy feels good. I’ve been struggling with Gottum’s stomach and hind gut but I think I have him on the mend.
@@WallaceEventing ok awesome. I will do that. Things were going well last year as I had started him jumping and he loves it but then my old trainer starting throwing some hard questions at him and that is when he started to give me problems and issues started to arise. So I let him just be a horse over the winter and I am starting him back up. I will try the ground driving and see what that does for him. His tummy never seemed to give him issues before but he is fed 24/7 on a large bale of hay and pasture. No grain this year and he seems very happy on that set up. If it keeps up though I will get him scoped. 😊
Looking to try incorporate more ground work with my horses, when you do ground work is that their only session for the day or do you also ride them either after or later? Always love your content and happy horses.
Could you do a post on horses that hate mouth contact when schooling, my boy was very stressed with bit contac,t in fact any aids, we are going great now trail riding but gets very very tight if I ask anything of him in an areana situation......my 3 boys and I have a great relationship thx to you!
Anyone, not just Elisa, but how do you get a tense horse to relax? I’m having a lot of trouble with my young mare being very tense. She’s been checked by vet and chiro, so she’s not in pain.
You may want to check out Warwick Schiller. He's a horse trainer focusing very much on horses emotions. I'm an english rider as well but I learned heaps about ground work, riding and horses mental states from him! I think right now you can even get a 2 week free trial for the subscription. Definitely worth checking out!
8 or 9 if you include my ownership share of Johnny aka Simply Priceless(he’s owned by a group). 2 are retired. 1 is ridden by a student. The rest are ridden by me.
There’s only so much u can do at home. It takes miles and getting the horse exposed and anyone who understands horses will understand. I don’t care really about what ignorant people think ;)
Elisa Wallace Eventing thank you for replying. I’ll really take that to heart. I’m in 4H and my horse really acts up (despite being a seasoned 16 year old ottb) and I get self conscious about how other people will view me when he is being difficult.
clarewithnoi My daughter felt the same when she was in high school and took our OTTB to 4-H shows. All the other horses were quarter horses, and although he went quietly for a thoroughbred, he was no quarter horse! On the flipside, she learned to ride a lot better than many of the other 4-H kids did because she had to. In the long run, riding better is lots more worthwhile than just winning the ribbons in the short term. She entered him into some 4-H classes and did well, though. She concocted a musical freestyle for him in which she demonstrated lead changes at the canter, bareback, and I didn’t see any other kids doing that. She also won a catalog race with him over about 50 other kids when neither she nor the horse it had ever practiced doing a catalog race before. All she had to do was lean forward, and he shot off like he was still at the race track. He slid to a beautiful sliding stop, she jumped off and got her magazine page, and when she got back on he took off before her feet were in the stirrups. Then he strolled out of the ring on a loose rein. I could swear that he was smirking. He won the class by three seconds! The kid who came in second tried to get them disqualified for competing in an English saddle. However, it turns out that the 4H rules did not specify contest classes have to be done in Western saddles. She also manage to get second to no large I can spin class, even though her horse had a bouncy truck compared to the quarter horses. That was because she was the only kid at the show who had learned to get up in two-point, so the Belton us to not bother her.So, keep on doing what you’re doing and have fun with your horse no matter what others say about him.
I meant to type that the “bounciness”of his trot did not bother her. Sorry about that! Anyway, I hope I can encourage you to do things with your thoroughbred your way, and not worry about people who have different types of horses other than thoroughbreds have to say about your horse not going “right.”
Fleet Skipper thank you for that inspiring story! Since that comment, we’ve competed in two more shows and our success as a team has really improved. We flatted incredibly at our last show and even when he would act up, I kept calm. I believe we won a 5th and a 3rd out of more than 10 other competitors!
Elisa I met u at a mustang makeover!! We have a gorgeous 16+ hand TB mare that’s beautiful mover that’s going to be shipped to slaughter! Her movement and personality are awesome! If you know anyone that could use her she’s young 4 I think? Beautiful bay gentle gentle guy said $2200?
Schleich horse lover 9,000 Thoroughbreds can be highstrung not to mention he use to be a race horse meaning he might not be use to what’s being asked of
Uuuh... Pardon for my engagement in things I supposedly have no understanding of, but I believe your horse would ride smoother without a bit in its mouth. The slightest yanking on that bit causes a reaction to pain and pressure, not a response to your leadership or guidance. The head nodding and jerking is the reaction. I suggest a traditional hackamore or a fancy looking rope halter. I know you're trying to compete, and I suppose that's fine. I just don't support some of your methods. As for whether or not I support bits, or evening, or whatever... look. This is just my opinion on what works for training a horse properly without causing it discomfort or confusion. That's true horsemanship. You take my advice with a grain of salt, or you can choose to ignore it. Either way... you're respectful of your horses, from what I've seen when you're not riding. Still exploring your channel!
@@WallaceEventing Huh... well I called it like I see it. And my genuine experience if your horses' head thrashes, there's usually something wrong with the equipment or the handler's handling. All that aside, you seem like a decent trainer. ^-^ You definitely have my respect. Also, sorry if that brought any offense. There's just a lot of people out here who say or do things that you need to look at with a critical eye. It could be like you say, or could be another way. I'm not there, so I have no way of knowing really what is going on. Great videos tho!
I have always admired your ability to keep your emotions in check regardless of what the horse you're riding is doing. Being able to laugh off all the immature moments is such an important element in the training of greener horses and it's something that is so much easier said then done...you do it impeccably well. I really enjoyed watching you work with Gottum here, he is a lovely mover and I am excited to see how he will mature over time.
I just can't say enough how much I appreciate that your whole method involves making your horses comfortable, ensuring they feel their best, and setting them up for success. Well done, keep up the awesome work, and as always, thanks for sharing!
He’s a real handful. It’s a good thing he’s so darn good looking.
Smart and handsome too. Not to mention he has a lovely trot and canter. If he loves to jump on top of all that you have a winner.
Well a winner does not always win. Winning is relative you know.
Well, he's in right hands, that for sure!
You are an amazing equestrian! Bringing a racehorse off the track and beginning the patient work of transforming him into a new life off the track is an awesome feat! I love how you treat each horse individually and teach it to relax, engage the mind and develop confidence in new activities!
Wow. what a beauty he is. He has magnificent form, his head shows his intelligence. Gottum is a winner in more ways than one. Cannot wait for the next video. Thank you for posting.
I LOVE your wholistic approach to training horses...... it’s fab that you mentioned making sure the horse is “feeling” better..... I hope these horses realise the wonderful home they have landed themselves in 😍
This is so much fun to watch. Sometimes I think you use Gorilla Glue on your pants the way you ‘stick’ your seat. These videos are so helpful I want to see lots more! I think you’ll go far with him. Thanks!
I think Elisa is really made out of LEGO and her horse as well
Wow, what a gorgeous stride. Can't wait to see the progress you make. Have fun working with him!
Great video! It was fun to see how you work out the naughtiness! Looking forward to more Gottum!
This is such a good video and so helpful. Your my favourite rider:) your so good at working with horses.
Hey I really enjoyed your video..You take really good care of your horses which is something I really appreciate to see. All good positivity and I know you both will kill it. I learned a lot as someone who will be training their second thoroughbred this upcoming year 2021.
Wow he’s stunning 😍 your doing amazing with him. This videos super interesting to watch thanks for explaining what your doing and making this video.
Beautiful to watch you work in the round pen- makes me really miss my OTTB and the connection we had 😢
This is a fantastic video! Thanks for a helpful and insightful video.
What a little stinker!!! He goes much better to the left, even by the gate. He may have some physical issues that are caising the behavior to the right. Nice horse, especially once you get him all together! Which I know you will. Thanks for sharing🌹
Thus why it’s really important to have chiro/massage, vet, farrier, all working together to make sure the horse is on the right track. It can take a process to get them to unwind all of their baggage.
@@WallaceEventing
Exactly. You are so understanding and awesome!🌹 Such a pleasure to watch your progess with each one. Thank you.
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Thank you.
@@sorchakirby8904 most are right handed tracks . Naas , Wexford and leopardstown are left handed though
You are an amazing trainer. I love watching how you deal with issues. I appreciate how you show understanding, slow things down and handle his antics and energy. He definitely has baggage from his former life. He seems intelligent and once he learns to relax will perform well for you. Maybe he wants to be a cutting horse though (albeit with birds) 😜
Just a wonderful work you're doining. I love how you give him all the time he needs. No pressure. Just very slowly and calm you repeat an repeat, until he understands what you want and until he is in the right mood to do
This is great to see... at least you can see he will be able to do half passes/ leg yields in the future 😂
Your the reason I’m getting back into horses and horse riding
Hes a beautiful mover, do you think you'll keep him as an eventing prospect?
This helps me a lot with my Otto although she’s been off the track for 6 years she was never trained out of her old ways
Well done... Very well done....
I love how you have so much patience with him. He is so beautiful btw!
Hello, I am thinking of taking a 6 year old thouroughbred, she raced a couple of times three years ago but prefers life in the slow lane they said. Nice natured, good to hack, kids have ridden her. I wondered would you say they could be more likely to bolt? Sorry if that's a silly question, I have never owned one, thanks x
Love the OTTB videos!
Could you maybe do a video on why you start them with no saddle? Also, do you have videos of Johnny's training? I saw an event video, but I want to see more of how you got there.
Another awesome vlog !! Look forward to following your progress with this boy 😊👏🏻🥰
I'm glad my ottb isn't the only one pulling shenanigans!
I just found your channel and watched the mustang challenge. Loved seeing your work with them. Then checked other vids and saw this one. He is a beautiful horse! How long have you had him? I can see he still has that "race horse" mentality! You have such a smooth and gentle training method that I love! Glad I found your channel and have subscribed🙂
Just started watching love anton and wy series hope to see more of them
Awesome video!! Thank you for sharing!
Gottum’s temperament reminds me strongly of my old OTTB, Satin Swan-Whenever he was tense, his energy came out in an apparent temper tantrum-he got bunched up and wild-eyed and would canter in place. Unlike Gottum, he didn’t curl over but got giraffe-necked. He got a lot of chiropractic work, including a huge adjustment where his neck was badly “out”right behind the poll, plus a lot of dental work to correct a pronounced overbite, plus a bit change to a French mouth snaffle that did not poke him in the roof of his slight parrot mouth. It took me a while to learn to go along with these antics, but the less fuss I made about them, the less he wanted to do it. These episodes dwindled from about once a week to once a month once every six months to once a year. Even when he got a lot older, every once in a while he would react like this again. I think it was his way, as a young horse, of expressing his anxiety about being at the track. He had one of the best temperaments of any horse I’ve ever seen, and he was good as gold most of the time later, but I never sold him because I was too afraid that someone else would interpret his tense moments as his being “bad “ And punish him for it, which would’ve had the exact opposite effect than calmness. He really taught me a lot, and after a few years he become such a kids horse that I’ll kinds of children got their first rounds on him. With them, he never acted like anything but an old plow horse. A very, very smart chap.
I kept him for 12 years until, very traumatically, he shattered a pastern playing in the field all by himself. He was my heart horse, partly because it took me so long to figure him out, but there was nothing he wouldn’t do for me once we got on the same wavelength. I miss him terribly. I’m so glad that Gottum has ended up with someone who knows how to hold his hand and get the best out of him.
He’s got great gaits though!
My 8 yr old ottb has the same type of mentality. Would love to watch the rest of his journey to apply some techniques to his training!
He certainly looks a cheeky one....I imagine he is similar to Johnny...thinks he knows best..
I have an ottb and he's 4 and he is a very lazy very chill guy
He is gorgeous.
Question for you. My OTTB has regressed back to avoiding contact and does exactly what gottum does when he gets tight. He is good on the ground work but can get rushy. And when I ride is when he avoids any contact from previous abuse. Just want to start him over with understanding he is not going to get punished. Love your videos and all you do with your horses!
Try ground driving first. Sometimes it’s easier to teach them from the ground. Teaching them voice commands and the connection without the rider on the back can help. and also make sure his tummy feels good. I’ve been struggling with Gottum’s stomach and hind gut but I think I have him on the mend.
@@WallaceEventing ok awesome. I will do that. Things were going well last year as I had started him jumping and he loves it but then my old trainer starting throwing some hard questions at him and that is when he started to give me problems and issues started to arise. So I let him just be a horse over the winter and I am starting him back up. I will try the ground driving and see what that does for him. His tummy never seemed to give him issues before but he is fed 24/7 on a large bale of hay and pasture. No grain this year and he seems very happy on that set up. If it keeps up though I will get him scoped. 😊
Looking to try incorporate more ground work with my horses, when you do ground work is that their only session for the day or do you also ride them either after or later? Always love your content and happy horses.
Could you do a post on horses that hate mouth contact when schooling, my boy was very stressed with bit contac,t in fact any aids, we are going great now trail riding but gets very very tight if I ask anything of him in an areana situation......my 3 boys and I have a great relationship thx to you!
Elisa, do you use The Method on your horses? It looks like a lot of the same commands and principles.
I think he’d be an excellent dressage horse with those moves! 😂😂
he is like my dream horse but i wish he was warmblood or half warmblood
Tips for a horse who doesn't want to seek out bit contact? I have a trainer working with me, but I want to hear outside tips!
lucky horse :)
Where is Sharpie?
Anyone, not just Elisa, but how do you get a tense horse to relax? I’m having a lot of trouble with my young mare being very tense. She’s been checked by vet and chiro, so she’s not in pain.
May That’s definitely one solution
You may want to check out Warwick Schiller. He's a horse trainer focusing very much on horses emotions. I'm an english rider as well but I learned heaps about ground work, riding and horses mental states from him! I think right now you can even get a 2 week free trial for the subscription. Definitely worth checking out!
MsCMOT Thank you for the recommendation I will definitely check it out
How old is your horse
What type of rubber? And where do you buy it to wrap your bits in?
Sealtex. Amazon.
Do you still have Gamble?
Yes
How many horses do you own
8 or 9 if you include my ownership share of Johnny aka Simply Priceless(he’s owned by a group). 2 are retired. 1 is ridden by a student. The rest are ridden by me.
@@WallaceEventing so you own 8 to 9
How do you deal with others that may judge you for bringing a horse out that acts naughty? I know he’s a baby but others might not.
There’s only so much u can do at home. It takes miles and getting the horse exposed and anyone who understands horses will understand. I don’t care really about what ignorant people think ;)
Elisa Wallace Eventing thank you for replying. I’ll really take that to heart. I’m in 4H and my horse really acts up (despite being a seasoned 16 year old ottb) and I get self conscious about how other people will view me when he is being difficult.
clarewithnoi My daughter felt the same when she was in high school and took our OTTB to 4-H shows. All the other horses were quarter horses, and although he went quietly for a thoroughbred, he was no quarter horse! On the flipside, she learned to ride a lot better than many of the other 4-H kids did because she had to. In the long run, riding better is lots more worthwhile than just winning the ribbons in the short term. She entered him into some 4-H classes and did well, though. She concocted a musical freestyle for him in which she demonstrated lead changes at the canter, bareback, and I didn’t see any other kids doing that. She also won a catalog race with him over about 50 other kids when neither she nor the horse it had ever practiced doing a catalog race before. All she had to do was lean forward, and he shot off like he was still at the race track. He slid to a beautiful sliding stop, she jumped off and got her magazine page, and when she got back on he took off before her feet were in the stirrups. Then he strolled out of the ring on a loose rein. I could swear that he was smirking. He won the class by three seconds! The kid who came in second tried to get them disqualified for competing in an English saddle. However, it turns out that the 4H rules did not specify contest classes have to be done in Western saddles. She also manage to get second to no large I can spin class, even though her horse had a bouncy truck compared to the quarter horses. That was because she was the only kid at the show who had learned to get up in two-point, so the Belton us to not bother her.So, keep on doing what you’re doing and have fun with your horse no matter what others say about him.
I meant to type that the “bounciness”of his trot did not bother her. Sorry about that! Anyway, I hope I can encourage you to do things with your thoroughbred your way, and not worry about people who have different types of horses other than thoroughbreds have to say about your horse not going “right.”
Fleet Skipper thank you for that inspiring story! Since that comment, we’ve competed in two more shows and our success as a team has really improved. We flatted incredibly at our last show and even when he would act up, I kept calm. I believe we won a 5th and a 3rd out of more than 10 other competitors!
I always find Ottbs feel like noodles and you just have to cook them right
That’s really weird lol
Yay I’m early, if that counts as 22 mins ago
Cool
What facility is that?
it's beautiful and looks like either SC, GA, or FL
Locations are posted on the video :)
👌🏻
Elisa I met u at a mustang makeover!! We have a gorgeous 16+ hand TB mare that’s beautiful mover that’s going to be shipped to slaughter! Her movement and personality are awesome! If you know anyone that could use her she’s young 4 I think? Beautiful bay gentle gentle guy said $2200?
Why was he throwing his head around
When you were riding him bareback
Schleich horse lover 9,000 Thoroughbreds can be highstrung not to mention he use to be a race horse meaning he might not be use to what’s being asked of
Therese swordfoot oh ok thx a ton
Mr. Sassypants!
Mislíš že nás baví že jezdíš jo tak to je na opak tak si to užij jo nebo ne.
Uuuh...
Pardon for my engagement in things I supposedly have no understanding of, but I believe your horse would ride smoother without a bit in its mouth. The slightest yanking on that bit causes a reaction to pain and pressure, not a response to your leadership or guidance. The head nodding and jerking is the reaction. I suggest a traditional hackamore or a fancy looking rope halter. I know you're trying to compete, and I suppose that's fine. I just don't support some of your methods.
As for whether or not I support bits, or evening, or whatever... look. This is just my opinion on what works for training a horse properly without causing it discomfort or confusion. That's true horsemanship. You take my advice with a grain of salt, or you can choose to ignore it.
Either way... you're respectful of your horses, from what I've seen when you're not riding. Still exploring your channel!
I ride mine in halters and hacks and bareback as well. He would do the same thing in a halter ;)
@@WallaceEventing Huh... well I called it like I see it. And my genuine experience if your horses' head thrashes, there's usually something wrong with the equipment or the handler's handling. All that aside, you seem like a decent trainer. ^-^ You definitely have my respect.
Also, sorry if that brought any offense. There's just a lot of people out here who say or do things that you need to look at with a critical eye. It could be like you say, or could be another way. I'm not there, so I have no way of knowing really what is going on. Great videos tho!