Thank you for making this video. Maiorov on his Telegram was complaining a lot that the referees were on Davids side and also that they were talking Georgian to eachother.
I wish the USA government didn't suck ass. I'd love to learn an eastern language but they lie to us and try to tell us they're our enemy when the reality is that the true enemy of any American is our worthless fucking government. Sorry, I'd just like to have the opportunity to understand what they're saying.
You sound very dumb. Bad call in round 2 was not Samushia's foult. Afterwards he hold him like a toddler and dominated regardless. Best case scenario it he could maybe managed 3 wins and still would loose. Cope with reality
It takes a disproportionate amount of energy moving someone closer to the pin, let alone in a literal pin position! One could argue there were 2 rounds worth of energy in round 1, plus another 2-3 in round 2, so Mairov was robbed of MANY rounds, not just round 2.
You sure armwrestle yourself? Samushia was holding him with lost pronator and only on Biceps which is very taxing. You talk like one was pulling and another one wainon a vacation lil bro
@@cratos900 I agree that was hard on Samushia (and am a fan of him), but the point is finishing someone can be way harder, and the main issue of how much gas that burns. Plus different pullers are better or worse from different positions. Regardless, think of different aspects of physical qualities, and the endurance-horse power continuum. If a guy has more horse-power or diesel and less relative endurance - yes that his is decision. But if he gets a pin and it doesn't count, for that individual it matters a lot. For Samushia it doesn't matter how much he expended because his tank is so large (and thus why the refs missing and not calling costed Mairov relatively way more, and appeared to favour Samushia and his strengths).
@@kasavaman007 BS. Muscles are different but force of attack and defense are same. To hold in that parallel pin location is extremely taxing for both. Better man won so stop talking what you don't understand cause clearly you don't pull.
@@Filip-ip6ly how can you even be sure? Bro pinned him in 1 sec and hold his arm down 10 seconds. Next round the same shit. If they were to be called, could you be certain davit would win anyways?
Every match of devons is rigged. Has coke to get stronger n acts like a typical coke head during the match. N still has to cheat with setup. This sport is a joke its for low iq kids sadly.
Youre a Real one for Talking about this pradeep. It was so obvious that the refs were biased but no one seems to talk about it. thank you for Not being scared to speek your mind
After Davits pin in round 2, you could see Vladimir knew this was bullshit, Davits pin was BARELY a pin, yet Vlad had to hold the first pin for 5 seconds and the second round was a pin for Vlad again, utter bullshit reffing.
Honestly after this EvW, I’ve decided not to purchase any PPV from now on until some things change. It’s the 15th edition and there are still so many issues with the audio, wrong camera angles which are crucial to confirm pins in the replay, long pauses and just a feeling of lack of organisation in terms of production and the cherry on top is poor refereeing and just a better system for proving elbow fouls and pins… It’s not enough to set good matches, it’s important that the quality of the production and refereeing improves if this sport ever wants to reach mainstream levels and be taken seriously especially since the price keeps increasing….24€ for this garbage…please.
@@cratos900usa tu cerebro, gasto mucha energía manteniendo la posición sin que llamaran pin. No puedes estar seguro del resultado en caso de que hubiesen actuado bien
@cratos900 if they would've called the first and second pins right away like they're supposed to, Vladimir could have saved enough energy to do it again 3rd and 4th round
@@msdweldingfabrication7051 Okay now wake up from reality and enjoy life going forward. This is not a would have should have world. Samushia after second round won dominantly and was flashing Mairov and that is a fact.
engin the type of guy to organize events, bet on them, then rig them in his favour. Never bought an engin ppv and never will. Never liked that guy either. How is he only 49 but looks like he's 70+? Extremely shady and suspicious character. I have only seen devon praising him for organizing events but why rig them? The way he treated devon in the morozov afterpull was also very shitty. Please devon if you are seeing this, distance yourself from that guy, you have enough popularity and pull to either organize something yourself, or to get some people involved. This is really not a good look what happened in the match. Your honor, dignity and morals matter more than a little bit of money. Engin should fire those refs, if he does not fire them it is very clear. Vladimir should sue them for this blatant cheating. Imagine in the future some big million dollar match, just imagine this happened, totally unacceptable. The locations of these events need to be investigated also. This is all very interesting lets do the procedure.
Just like every other sport, now arm wrestling is rigged thanks to betting. It's getting to the point where I don't watch football anymore or arm wrestling or hardly anything thanks to sports betting.
0:53 I said the same thing to my wife!!! I said “what does Maiorov have to do, pin Davit to the table top?!??” Really disgraceful poor reffing. These refs should NEVER be invited back to another East vs West. I even wonder if it was intentionally biased. Thanks so much for calling them out on this!!!
Engin needs to remove himself from everything outside of the day-to-day operations and match setting. Someone needs to find refs that aren't so sketchy. The crap with Devon and Morozov was dumb on both sides and then Engin looked like a toddler with his tantrum. I've bought every event since KoTT 3 and honestly thinking about not buying any next year. Dont care if I get blacklisted or not.
Yep these were CLEAR pins, it did suck the energy out of him and by the end of round two he had given up mentally, Samushia may have still won ofcourse but it would have been much closer, only wrong thing Vladimir did was not greeting Samushia after, i know he was rightly pissed but it wasn't Samushias fault, same thing happened with Paul Linn and Sasho and Alizhan v Petrenko, Alizhan pinned him like 3 times in the first round expended so much energy but the blind refs didn't see, but he still won that match despite that
Yeah, that was terrible. I felt bad for him and understand his unwillingness to shake Davit's hand at the end of the match. I know that it wasn't Davit's fault that the refs screwed Vladimir over, but Vladimir had every right to be upset at the end of the match.
I just watched this. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT? Sports today have a referee problem across the board. Fans are gonna turn away if this bullshit continues.
Larratt has started on the good side of the strap, in every single EvW and KoTT event. Including in the teaser matches with Georgi and Morozov. The corruption runs deep.
You could see it in Maiorov's face after the first round that he was completely deflated. It must be such a psychological challenge to feel that the refs are not calling your pins and you are forced to burn yourself out. I believe that he could have won the match if he maintained his high, got the first two pins quick without too much damage. He was totally robbed.
The second round was no a pin it was a whole burial i just cant understand how long you have to have your opponent pinned so they can call it 😂😂😂😂the reffssss need to do better than this this is a joke
Props for making this video, I'm not sure if it ultimately cost him the match, but it looked like he deserved better calls early on. I hope he sees the post and reads the comments of support and continues.
Engin shouldn't like his own refs, he has those clown reffing for 15 events at this point, which makes it obvious there are reasons why they are not placed... and the reason is not that they are good, i can tell you that for free.
@@Caucasian_Shepherd It is not a 7 round supermatch. It is best of 7. Either you struggle with English or replaying to other guy cause nobody understands what you mean by manhandling.
Eldar Bubenko said that he would go to the -85 kg category again, and if he wanted a match with Samusija, Eldar would most likely take his title. We are waiting for Engin...
Devon has a 100% success rate of starting on the good side of the strap. Do you seriously believe that fairness has any meaning when it comes to Devon?
Instant replay needs to be established, rules need to be written down and understood. The strict rules need to go, nothing wrong with moving your elbow on the pad, the geometry of the table and arm wrestlers changes during a match and there shouldn’t be penalties for that.
Wow, this one is too much, this is bullshit, Samushia is a legend, and this match was just a little weird because of blind ass referee, Davit would have won anyway
Glad someone is saying something about this. It’s becoming a big problem. Even in the Michael Todd match you could see the disgust in the referee’s face when Todd ended up winning. Idk if it’s bias but either way the sport will need the referees to step up and call fair matches.
Well Engin doesn’t ever want the North Americans to win, couldn’t call a pin on Samushia but Michael got pinned by Genadi on the round nobody had footage of?
Really like both athletes, but refs destroyed Vladimir first mentally than physically, btw Maiorov went to Samishia to apologise for not shaking his hand after the match
Huge robbery.!! If Davit could have came back from getting flash pinned two rounds in a row... Then the refs shoulda let him do it.... It would have been another incredible win for him.... But they should Not tire out his opponent so he can get a free win. Nobody with a brain respects this win from Davit. This match was decided by refs.
I saw one more thing samushiya bent his wrist little bit while referee was doing setup to both athlete. I thing this match went to vladimir. I also very disappointed from that yesterday.
I don't know that refs name that looks like he sucked on a lemon, but every match he refs is extremely controversial. Is he like engins cousin or something?
Round 1 Michael was with completely straight arm in kings move, and referees did not give a pin. If one is with completely straight arm and still not give pin, how exactly do you pin Michael.😂 man thinks he is a god and he was constantly in kings move position 1cm above the pad having lost everything😂 he won with the flash pins.
@lethargicastengah572 well then you have a problem with Engin, so you're calling him corrupt and the EvW event organizers corrupt. You can see the video of Engin doing the coin toss at the rules event, but you'd rather scream corruption because it makes you feel better.
@@JBtheWARVillain You really think its 50/50? I'll bet you $100 with a ultra generous 10-to-1 ratio that Devon will start on the good side of the strap, in his next EvW/KoTT match.
@lethargicastengah572 why you angry at me? Direct your energy towards Engin and EvW since you're claiming they're corrupt. You see everyone line up, choose which side of the coin they want and Engin toss it for everyone in that room, but you think it's openly corrupt. You should make a serious complaint to whatever avenues you can because there is betting/staking involved so if it's corrupt people are getting swindled out of their money and that's serious.
@@serginho6837 I asked for proof for your statement and you're asking for my age. I don't see how that answers my question in any way. You don't deserve an actual logical response but I'll give you one so you can learn how to answer questions. They didn't call the obvious pins my Maiorov. They waited a long time before any calls. They talked with Samushia in Georgian (claimed by Maiorov) which could mean unintentionally favouring their fellow countryman. Be better.
getting pinned in 2 seconds in stead of 10 seconds might mean the endurance doesn't matter, no one can be sure, but it is a possibility. Those things should simply not happen, a bad reffing is not something that gets canceled out even if it doesn't change the outcome of a match.
@@Zgartza No he would not. He might have taken 1 more round, that's it. Maiorov gassed out pretty quickly, you can't beat Samushia 4 times with such endurance
@@nickk9593Maiorov was morally destroyed after the second round, he completely lost the will to fight. If he had exhausted himself after the second round, he would not have been able to put up such resistance in the last round. Apparently, in the end, he decided to try to do at least something, but he was immediately pelted with fouls. Vladimir was absolutely robbed. He practically smashed David into a pad from the start, he was simply not allowed to realize his potential in any way. We, as spectators, were deprived of a tense match, which could potentially become an incredibly colorful tenth defense of the belt, or the appearance of a new champion. With the same success, it would be possible not to hold a match, but simply to count the defense on paper.
You guys are so fcking stupid i love it. he got robbed out of 2 wins with 10 total seconds of trying holding his opponents arm down. How would any of you know how the match would go if that didn't happen? How could you think it could not be significant? And saying this is justified because he wouldnt win anyways is beyond stupidity, its immorality.
Same reff who didn't call Paul lin's obvious pin against Sasho and then laughed at him when protested
@@Jiriladarichevi thnk god some1 remembers
Yup, Paul was robbed in that match.
This reff always do this... Not capable for him
Yup!!
This ref needs to be banned
Thank you for making this video. Maiorov on his Telegram was complaining a lot that the referees were on Davids side and also that they were talking Georgian to eachother.
They both are turkish referees lol
@@Jiriladarichevithey can speak different languages.
@@jayTealDavid was talking in Russian, I'm Georgian and he didn't say a word in Georgian.
I wish the USA government didn't suck ass. I'd love to learn an eastern language but they lie to us and try to tell us they're our enemy when the reality is that the true enemy of any American is our worthless fucking government. Sorry, I'd just like to have the opportunity to understand what they're saying.
That Mayorov is a little whiney bitch. Reffs missed second round pin ill give him that though. In amy ways 4-2 Samushia dominates.
The referees and engin want samushia to win to make history
he already made history and was 3-1 ahead holding completly exhausted mayorov like a little kid after first round, salty crying whinners :D
@@gunner46556I'm sorry that you're blind and regarded.
@@andreyvolkov3117 blind is your mommy you are ypu mad that georgians mopping flor with your athletes in every event?
@@andreyvolkov3117 we are moping the floor with your athletes in every competition are you mad about that? you little puta
@@andreyvolkov3117 you can get on your knees and open your mouth for georgians
Maiorov went 200% at round 2 ofcourse he was gassed out after having to hold that position so long. He got ROBBED!!
Yup. I remember the same thing happened to Paul Linn when he faced Sasho.
I really believe that he could have won if it wasn't for the thievery
Even in round 1 he held it at pin pad for 10 seconds completely burnt himself 😂
@@msdweldingfabrication7051 he really could have .he has very bad endurance but the guy had enough power to flash pin pin sasmushia 4 times in a row .
@@msdweldingfabrication7051 so what now, do you think the match is repeated ?
My man was armwrestling 3 guys at the same time..Got to give some respect to Mairov..No point on shaking hand with Samushia after all this..
You sound very dumb. Bad call in round 2 was not Samushia's foult. Afterwards he hold him like a toddler and dominated regardless. Best case scenario it he could maybe managed 3 wins and still would loose. Cope with reality
Tbh Samushia has nothing to do with the outrageous refereeing
There was no chances anyway sorry
@@Andre-ze2ufYes there was. Maiorov wasted more than half of his energy holding Samushia in that spot. He was robbed, plain and simple.
Davit looks a genuine good human being never brag always humble even after all this defenses so the blame should go to the referees
Yeah, that's some bullsh-t, that 2nd match the camera was parallel with the table, dude's arm was 90 degree's, half his forearm was below the pad
if i'm not mistaken, the forearm is not mentioned in the rules. it has to be hand/fingers
It takes a disproportionate amount of energy moving someone closer to the pin, let alone in a literal pin position! One could argue there were 2 rounds worth of energy in round 1, plus another 2-3 in round 2, so Mairov was robbed of MANY rounds, not just round 2.
You sure armwrestle yourself? Samushia was holding him with lost pronator and only on Biceps which is very taxing. You talk like one was pulling and another one wainon a vacation lil bro
@@cratos900 I agree that was hard on Samushia (and am a fan of him), but the point is finishing someone can be way harder, and the main issue of how much gas that burns. Plus different pullers are better or worse from different positions.
Regardless, think of different aspects of physical qualities, and the endurance-horse power continuum. If a guy has more horse-power or diesel and less relative endurance - yes that his is decision. But if he gets a pin and it doesn't count, for that individual it matters a lot. For Samushia it doesn't matter how much he expended because his tank is so large (and thus why the refs missing and not calling costed Mairov relatively way more, and appeared to favour Samushia and his strengths).
@@cratos900 you give energy when pinning than on defense.
@@kasavaman007 BS. Muscles are different but force of attack and defense are same. To hold in that parallel pin location is extremely taxing for both. Better man won so stop talking what you don't understand cause clearly you don't pull.
Complete robbery. His matches are fixed. Engin wants him to make history and have the most winning record ever
he would still win
How is it a robbery when Samushia would have won anyways. It was a best of 7, Samushia had much better endurance
@@Filip-ip6ly how can you even be sure? Bro pinned him in 1 sec and hold his arm down 10 seconds. Next round the same shit. If they were to be called, could you be certain davit would win anyways?
@@ivanmzrnic6475 historically yes, we can be sure. Maiorov might have got 3 pins in the best case scenario before Davit exhausted him and took control
Every match of devons is rigged. Has coke to get stronger n acts like a typical coke head during the match. N still has to cheat with setup.
This sport is a joke its for low iq kids sadly.
Youre a Real one for Talking about this pradeep. It was so obvious that the refs were biased but no one seems to talk about it. thank you for Not being scared to speek your mind
But he didnt speak up on Devon Ermes match which was the most obviously rigged match in history.
Every match Devon gets to cheat.
After Davits pin in round 2, you could see Vladimir knew this was bullshit, Davits pin was BARELY a pin, yet Vlad had to hold the first pin for 5 seconds and the second round was a pin for Vlad again, utter bullshit reffing.
Yes, he completely lost his will to fight after 2 round. It was not about endurance, more about fight spirit
Rematch needs to happen
Definitely. Round 1 waited before calling it and 2 round didn't call it at all. Very bad.
reffing in EvW needs to be reworked
Yeah samushia definitely has had the refs on his side
Honestly after this EvW, I’ve decided not to purchase any PPV from now on until some things change. It’s the 15th edition and there are still so many issues with the audio, wrong camera angles which are crucial to confirm pins in the replay, long pauses and just a feeling of lack of organisation in terms of production and the cherry on top is poor refereeing and just a better system for proving elbow fouls and pins…
It’s not enough to set good matches, it’s important that the quality of the production and refereeing improves if this sport ever wants to reach mainstream levels and be taken seriously especially since the price keeps increasing….24€ for this garbage…please.
Love the unbiased reporting, thanks Pradeep.
Pradeep legit the Ariel Helwani of armwrestling
Samushia won Saar, Fair and square Saar
I totally agree he was robbed. Samusha is lucky the reffs were helping him. If it wasn't for the thievery Vladimir would've won
It was best of 7. Mayorov needed to win 2 more times. Stop coping and appreciate greatness
@@cratos900usa tu cerebro, gasto mucha energía manteniendo la posición sin que llamaran pin. No puedes estar seguro del resultado en caso de que hubiesen actuado bien
@cratos900 if they would've called the first and second pins right away like they're supposed to, Vladimir could have saved enough energy to do it again 3rd and 4th round
@@msdweldingfabrication7051 Okay now wake up from reality and enjoy life going forward. This is not a would have should have world. Samushia after second round won dominantly and was flashing Mairov and that is a fact.
engin the type of guy to organize events, bet on them, then rig them in his favour. Never bought an engin ppv and never will. Never liked that guy either. How is he only 49 but looks like he's 70+? Extremely shady and suspicious character. I have only seen devon praising him for organizing events but why rig them? The way he treated devon in the morozov afterpull was also very shitty. Please devon if you are seeing this, distance yourself from that guy, you have enough popularity and pull to either organize something yourself, or to get some people involved. This is really not a good look what happened in the match. Your honor, dignity and morals matter more than a little bit of money. Engin should fire those refs, if he does not fire them it is very clear. Vladimir should sue them for this blatant cheating. Imagine in the future some big million dollar match, just imagine this happened, totally unacceptable. The locations of these events need to be investigated also. This is all very interesting lets do the procedure.
Maiorov was robbed. So sad..
Thank you!
I thought it was just me.
The referees were blind and probably cost Vladimir the match.
Exactly! I was like WTF ARE YOU LOOKING AT!?!? The reffing is out of control HORRIBLE
I think the word we are looking for is, "rigged" or "fixed"
Just like every other sport, now arm wrestling is rigged thanks to betting. It's getting to the point where I don't watch football anymore or arm wrestling or hardly anything thanks to sports betting.
0:53 I said the same thing to my wife!!! I said “what does Maiorov have to do, pin Davit to the table top?!??”
Really disgraceful poor reffing. These refs should NEVER be invited back to another East vs West. I even wonder if it was intentionally biased. Thanks so much for calling them out on this!!!
Engin needs to remove himself from everything outside of the day-to-day operations and match setting. Someone needs to find refs that aren't so sketchy. The crap with Devon and Morozov was dumb on both sides and then Engin looked like a toddler with his tantrum. I've bought every event since KoTT 3 and honestly thinking about not buying any next year. Dont care if I get blacklisted or not.
Engin has too big of an ego to do that.
Engin has blocked me on RUclips because I called out his referees a few months ago. He just blocks people to hide the hate for him.
Yep these were CLEAR pins, it did suck the energy out of him and by the end of round two he had given up mentally, Samushia may have still won ofcourse but it would have been much closer, only wrong thing Vladimir did was not greeting Samushia after, i know he was rightly pissed but it wasn't Samushias fault, same thing happened with Paul Linn and Sasho and Alizhan v Petrenko, Alizhan pinned him like 3 times in the first round expended so much energy but the blind refs didn't see, but he still won that match despite that
Yeah, that was terrible. I felt bad for him and understand his unwillingness to shake Davit's hand at the end of the match. I know that it wasn't Davit's fault that the refs screwed Vladimir over, but Vladimir had every right to be upset at the end of the match.
Closest to samushia was Nurdalet.
I just watched this. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT? Sports today have a referee problem across the board. Fans are gonna turn away if this bullshit continues.
Referees were paid extra bucks by the champion or organizer.
Bro this was rigged. This match alone crushed my trust to east v west organization.
Larratt has started on the good side of the strap, in every single EvW and KoTT event. Including in the teaser matches with Georgi and Morozov. The corruption runs deep.
@@lethargicastengah572 there is no good side. Stop repeating the same bullshit. If you're good enough you'll win
@@nickk9593 ?
Lol there is @@nickk9593
You could see it in Maiorov's face after the first round that he was completely deflated. It must be such a psychological challenge to feel that the refs are not calling your pins and you are forced to burn yourself out. I believe that he could have won the match if he maintained his high, got the first two pins quick without too much damage. He was totally robbed.
The second round was no a pin it was a whole burial i just cant understand how long you have to have your opponent pinned so they can call it 😂😂😂😂the reffssss need to do better than this this is a joke
Props for making this video, I'm not sure if it ultimately cost him the match, but it looked like he deserved better calls early on. I hope he sees the post and reads the comments of support and continues.
Nowadays, arm-wrestling is trying to become popular by doing these activities !!
Just like WWE
Hard for many people to understand, that in armwrestling the better cheater gets the win a Lot of times
Even harder for most people to understand that the world is becoming darker
if you don't cheat you just don't want to win bad enough.
Travis rob Mayorov's name and referee rob his won. It's so unfair
And Neil introduced him as a Ukrainian puller, who he is not. Maiorov was essentially just publicly humiliated by the East vs West league
@@lyvex7422 Are you serious? I didn't notice this, omg
@@lyvex7422 wow
The refs were absolutely terrible in this match! I've never seen such weak elbow fouls called in my life as well! Those refs should be ashamed!
I agree that they called the pins late and not called some of it
I’ve said it before the Refs are ridiculously bias to the East….
Exactly my point. Was watching live and I was shocked to see the second round. The second round was a clear pin.
Engin isn't gonna like this one
Engin shouldn't like his own refs, he has those clown reffing for 15 events at this point, which makes it obvious there are reasons why they are not placed... and the reason is not that they are good, i can tell you that for free.
Samushia is P4P N1 armwrestler in the world
saying this in a video in which you were shown that he was manhandled is crazy lmao
@luigimanzelli3786 Have you watched whole armfight lil bro?
@@luigimanzelli3786 cry more, winning 2 rounds in a 7-round supermatch is manhandling in your casual opinion
@@Caucasian_Shepherd It is not a 7 round supermatch. It is best of 7. Either you struggle with English or replaying to other guy cause nobody understands what you mean by manhandling.
@@cratos900 Meant to reply to the other guy, my bad. I deleted the comment.
Robbery is a stretch. Like you said, Samushia would have won a best-of-7 match anyway, but the referreeing sucked, for sure.
So that makes every ok. Still need to be fair.
@@jayTeal not ok and it needs to be addressed
You cant say that, maybe mairov had won the match
@@MustafaNiazi-eq6hl Unlikely, Samushia's stamina is unmatched. He won all the rest of the rounds easily after round 2.
The match was completely spoiled
Eldar Bubenko said that he would go to the -85 kg category again, and if he wanted a match with Samusija, Eldar would most likely take his title. We are waiting for Engin...
This is why Devon has every right to talk shit and manhandle the refs … who could honestly say they are unbiased and fair?
No way Devon goes wayyyyy to far
Devon has a 100% success rate of starting on the good side of the strap. Do you seriously believe that fairness has any meaning when it comes to Devon?
Devon does that regardless of the kind of refs..not a great argument
@@lethargicastengah572none..he's all about winning by doing everything he can get away with..
Yeah, Vlad has good reason to protest there, and now to lodge a complaint
Instant replay needs to be established, rules need to be written down and understood. The strict rules need to go, nothing wrong with moving your elbow on the pad, the geometry of the table and arm wrestlers changes during a match and there shouldn’t be penalties for that.
It's not for moving your elbow it's from coming off the pad
Samushia is overated i cant believe theres noone atm who can give him a fair fight
all his matches were wars. What are you on about
Overrated? Armwrestling got so mainstream that athletes now have salty haters lol... This is great!
Wow, this one is too much, this is bullshit, Samushia is a legend, and this match was just a little weird because of blind ass referee, Davit would have won anyway
@@rainblue8005 true that
Glad someone is saying something about this. It’s becoming a big problem. Even in the Michael Todd match you could see the disgust in the referee’s face when Todd ended up winning. Idk if it’s bias but either way the sport will need the referees to step up and call fair matches.
who get the Afterpulls recorded or do they keep em secret?
Well Engin doesn’t ever want the North Americans to win, couldn’t call a pin on Samushia but Michael got pinned by Genadi on the round nobody had footage of?
Really like both athletes, but refs destroyed Vladimir first mentally than physically, btw Maiorov went to Samishia to apologise for not shaking his hand after the match
Devon pulled morozovs body and engin and table in 2018
Also in Alizhan vs Petrenko in the first round this happened Alizhan pinned him 2 times in a row
Watch engin will go Live soon after reading these comments to "clarify" and back his native refs
To some extent like Ivan vs Morozov
Now i can see who ever is gonna face samushia next, he will lose, they want to make a moment in AW history.
Maiorov did not yell around during the match & was robbed...
I 110% agree that this was the worst refed match I've ever seen
True
They wanted Davit to win
Yes he pin him 3 times and that’s why he is upset in the end
So after 1 round david won easily all rounds! ))
Those were pins for sure, but the result would have been the same. He gassed worse than Dave Chaffee.
Ya there was some serious bull crap from the EvW refs, and then the one who tried to ref the exhibition match. This EvW production has got ridiculous.
Engin’s refs.. what do you expect.
Even During Devons match it looked like he got a pin but wasn't called.. the referring is terrible.
Yes that’s something I’ve always despised, That referees have the power to gas out opponents and manipulate matches with bad calls!
Buen video, fue un robo tremendo lo mínimo es que se publicó que no fue algo que paso desapercibido
The reffing was SUCH bs
We don’t know what the outcome could have been if Vladimir wouldn’t get burnt out by the stupid refereeing.
Huge robbery.!! If Davit could have came back from getting flash pinned two rounds in a row... Then the refs shoulda let him do it.... It would have been another incredible win for him....
But they should Not tire out his opponent so he can get a free win. Nobody with a brain respects this win from Davit. This match was decided by refs.
Engin doesn't believe in brotherhood.....
Time to go to jail my frens
Refs put all the money on this game
Na that other match where the old poped out was a bigger robbery that ended with 4-3 coulda easily been the other way around if that didn’t happen
Change your background cuzz, it aint good
I saw one more thing samushiya bent his wrist little bit while referee was doing setup to both athlete. I thing this match went to vladimir. I also very disappointed from that yesterday.
That ref is horrible.
ahahahhahahahahahahah continue whining, davit held him like little kid in after first round.
Someone should call out engin for this
Ya that was terrible what the refs did.
bla bla bla. samushia is champion again
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Is East vs West crook?
I don't know that refs name that looks like he sucked on a lemon, but every match he refs is extremely controversial. Is he like engins cousin or something?
Blind judging
Wronged mmt too
Is this referee Turkish? 🤨
Very bad referring it must be fixed because isn’t good for the sport and Engin looks very bad too he needs a break for a while 😅
the biggest fake was todd down the table elbow out pad all the time, circus joke match, no rules, why you dont talk about that clown?
Round 1 Michael was with completely straight arm in kings move, and referees did not give a pin. If one is with completely straight arm and still not give pin, how exactly do you pin Michael.😂 man thinks he is a god and he was constantly in kings move position 1cm above the pad having lost everything😂 he won with the flash pins.
Mmt pressed genadi to the pad with ease
@@Armfan17 Maybe you should learn to read first and start out by reading the Waf rules instead of spewing nonsense in the internet.
@@Armfan17 The baby has woken up, quick get him his bottle! 🍼👶
@@tilmanrotationalinvariant2257 maybe you should start supporting true champions and not cringe pullers like todd with 0 skill. Bark to me boy.
- Devon starting on the good side of the strap 100% of the time at EvW/KoTT
- Refs protecting Samushia from losing
Corruption detected
@lethargicastengah572 You do see them do the coin toss in the room with all the athletes altogether right?
@@JBtheWARVillain 7th match, 7th coin toss at EvW?
0.5^7 ~= 0.78125% chance of happening
It is corrupt.
@lethargicastengah572 well then you have a problem with Engin, so you're calling him corrupt and the EvW event organizers corrupt.
You can see the video of Engin doing the coin toss at the rules event, but you'd rather scream corruption because it makes you feel better.
@@JBtheWARVillain You really think its 50/50? I'll bet you $100 with a ultra generous 10-to-1 ratio that Devon will start on the good side of the strap, in his next EvW/KoTT match.
@lethargicastengah572 why you angry at me? Direct your energy towards Engin and EvW since you're claiming they're corrupt. You see everyone line up, choose which side of the coin they want and Engin toss it for everyone in that room, but you think it's openly corrupt.
You should make a serious complaint to whatever avenues you can because there is betting/staking involved so if it's corrupt people are getting swindled out of their money and that's serious.
i can agree the refs messed this up. But the disrespect maiarov showed to davit after the match made me dislike him.
Hot Take: Samushia to make the matches competitive and interesting for fans, gives away first couple of matches to opponents...
Saying what the referees were thinking/conspiring is very childish and false. Be better
Well its obvious
Proof that they didn't?
@@limo-swine6537 proof that they didn't? Are you 12 years old?
You have to prove it that it happened and you cant... @@limo-swine6537
@@serginho6837 I asked for proof for your statement and you're asking for my age. I don't see how that answers my question in any way.
You don't deserve an actual logical response but I'll give you one so you can learn how to answer questions. They didn't call the obvious pins my Maiorov. They waited a long time before any calls. They talked with Samushia in Georgian (claimed by Maiorov) which could mean unintentionally favouring their fellow countryman.
Be better.
Dude are you kidding me. The result would have been 4-2 for Samushia anyways, Samushia had much better endurance. He would have won
getting pinned in 2 seconds in stead of 10 seconds might mean the endurance doesn't matter, no one can be sure, but it is a possibility. Those things should simply not happen, a bad reffing is not something that gets canceled out even if it doesn't change the outcome of a match.
The better man won, nobody was robbed
Holding that winning position two times for that long is extremely tiring. Had they called those pins, he might have won the match
The man with the better bribes won. 😂
@@Zgartza No he would not. He might have taken 1 more round, that's it. Maiorov gassed out pretty quickly, you can't beat Samushia 4 times with such endurance
@@nickk9593Maiorov was morally destroyed after the second round, he completely lost the will to fight. If he had exhausted himself after the second round, he would not have been able to put up such resistance in the last round. Apparently, in the end, he decided to try to do at least something, but he was immediately pelted with fouls. Vladimir was absolutely robbed. He practically smashed David into a pad from the start, he was simply not allowed to realize his potential in any way. We, as spectators, were deprived of a tense match, which could potentially become an incredibly colorful tenth defense of the belt, or the appearance of a new champion. With the same success, it would be possible not to hold a match, but simply to count the defense on paper.
You guys are so fcking stupid i love it. he got robbed out of 2 wins with 10 total seconds of trying holding his opponents arm down. How would any of you know how the match would go if that didn't happen? How could you think it could not be significant? And saying this is justified because he wouldnt win anyways is beyond stupidity, its immorality.
YO THIS WAS A ROBBERY
Not big then Ryan Bowen vs mazahir. I don't want to even consider it was a match between Ryan vs mazahir