1st : Dynamic range (night and day) 2nd: Details (i want the photo to look great on big screens) 3rd: As less lens flare as possible (Vivo is by far the best at this) 4th: Shutter speed ( i want to capture clear photos of people or things that move) 5th : Zoom 5X and 10X 6th : Not intense sharpening, not intense saturation, not intense noise reduction (i hate the oil paint effect)
Hi there. Mind sharing your overall experience with both? I record a lot of videos and would prefer the best one out of the two since most people i know says that no phones could beat apples video quality. Could you give me ur honest feedback please?
@@blankflower2067in terms of videos I still prefer the iPhone in terms of stabilization, color accuracy and lens transitions. Both have log footage though so if you put either one in a gimbal, they will look very very close.
@MoonWalkCTO Battery life is good too. 34% on heavy use (camera on all the time for taking pictures on roaming in another country) from 10 am to 8 pm. My last phone was x100pro -decided to upgrade
Watching with my Vivo x200 pro that I got for 51k pesos about 870 usd. I have the 512 gb variant and yeah, the camera is so amazing! Good thing this phone is easy to find in my country.
Really ? 😢..... I feel same ....my s24 ultra is performing very bad at low light conditions....and 50 and 200mp modes are horrible ......very bad image quality
I don't know if you have experience with it but if not you should try it. I swapped from Samsung to oppo which has basically the same os and I much prefer it to one UI. Incredibly smooth experience and highly customisable with some great added features over stock android.
Ordered yesterday for 1099€ with 16+512 in the official vivo page. A complete steel ! Only bad thing I see is the 3 years of so updates... Could be atleas 4 of os updates and 5 security
I love my VIVO X200 Pro its the best android I've ever used, and flawless, and as for the camera, I don't see any phone in 2025 beating it next year, only another Vivo release. ❤😊🎄⛄🥳
@MoonWalkCTO 15 Pro Max pixel 9 Pro XL S24 Ultra bought them all and regretted it. Battery life on VIVO X200 Pro excellent, better than all previous 3 phones. Phone works flawlessly best Android I've ever owned, camera best I've ever had. I will not be going back to any of the previous makes again.
But the issue is whosoever working in IT product , services or consulting firms, most of them are going to restrict the chinese phones with their official app usage in these phones due to data leakage issue mostly in India. Thus, either one should have apple or samsung to comply with their company ecosystem. If you are one of them try using office teams whatever firm you are working and see if you receive notifications properly or not.
Hi, good review.! Based on your use, did u find Funtouch OS lacking in anyway? Some reviewers say that its quite 'lacking' when compared to MagicOS or Colour OS, etc. Real life usage thoughts on that? also how is low light videography and zoom etc? Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words. For general use (which is how I use my phones), it honestly doesn't feel any different to any other iteration of Android I've used over the last two years.
@@zippy2175 why would you ridicule someone for choosing a product? It's jUST a phone. Apart from fact that you can't seem to cope with someone thinking differently to you!
Anybody know if the warranty is valid outside internationally? I live in Thailand and am considering buying it from Alibaba with the Chinese ROM. But I only want it if the warranty will be valid here should something go wrong.
Mark, I can't say anything about the vivo x200 pro since I don't have one. However, I don't doubt anything you say about it since I have the vivo x100 pro. Even the x100 pro was leaps and bounds ahead of what I've had before. I had the sony xperia 1v and the samsung galaxy s23 ultra, which were both supposedly known for their camera systems. But they are nothing compared to the x100 pro. So I am certain that the x200 pro would have made much more improvement over the x100 pro. It's my next purchase, unless of course if I can hold my horses till the x300 pro. Hahaha
I would suggest you not to record in the apps but to record in vivos camera app then post on social media. The photos are the best in the world and the video is just short of iPhones
It looks good. Cameras sound good. I can’t really imagine not using an iPhone. Is it made by a Chinese company? Are there any security concerns? Vivo do apparently collect user data and possibly sell it according to Quora.
You can find an s24 ultra or a Xiaomi 14 ultra for 800 euros, whereas the x200 pro is around 1300.. idk why or how are people saying the vivo is cheaper than any other flagship. It's pretty much the most expensive, outside of the 16 pro max
I still love my x90 pro plus and my x100 ultra, mine both don't run fun touch, one runs origin OS4 and the ultra runs origin OS5, Chinese software blows away global software, so many more features
Yes. I'm currently using it. you don't get android auto, and I wouldn't trust it with payments however you totally. Other than that everything works perfectly and the photos this captures are replacing my dslr soon
I'd buy the S24U without any question now. Why? It is the cheapest flagship now and probably still the best or the most polished all-rounder. Almost a year old and with Samsung phones deals emerging after just a few months, so now it is dirt cheap!
A smartphone camera is good when you take photos of food in a restaurant in low light and the photos turn out realistically. There are very, very few of those smartphones. And I haven't seen a single photo of the vivo that was taken in a restaurant in liw light conditions. This fact makes me doubt whether it really has a good camera.
The X200 Pro takes excellent photographs, but it's video quality is not quite there. Stabilization problems using 4K 60 video, and lens flare problems that have only been partially cured by a poor software update, make videography an unrewarding experience on this device. The software quality and optimization on the device overall are both poor, and Vivo's record on the quality of it's tech and after sales support is sadly lacking. If you import this device, you could be asking for one headache after another. Don't say you weren't warned.
You talk nonsense and you don't even own the phone. The video quality and stabilization is better than iPhone: ruclips.net/video/9o0BXjlHa-c/видео.html
I don't like the colors of the x200 pro, they are saturated, the xiaomi 15 ultra will surpass this vivo... but in certain photos they are not good for me it is not the smartphone of the year there are better ones such as xiaomi 14 ultra but the funtouchOS 15 software is not the best but oppo find X8 Pro is the best I would not buy the vivo x200 pro for me it is not the best
1️⃣ I agree: it's a great phone and has best cameras of 2024. 2️⃣ I disagree: Funtouch, OneUi, PixelUi, Nothing OS, Colors OS or Hyper OS have their difference. The OS is still something mainly important for me. Same for the consistency with those updates over the time. 🎄Happy Christmas for you and your family
Ikr the OS is very very important but it seems like almost all of these reviewers review is the cameras, like wtf there not 99 million photographers out here smh
So to answer the question It is Not The Best Phone Camera as Good as it is. Xiaomi 14Ultra and Huawei Pura 70 Ultra Produce Better Photos But Personal Preference s all About
Photos are great but everything else is not my taste. Don’t like curved screen, design and software. And it’s a Chinese phone and we all know how massive the government is involved in Chinese manufactures. People will say it’s a myth but I just don’t trust them just like Temu and TikTok.
not global for me & even still restricted in countries next to me to import (yes they arent banned here & allowed to sell again for over 1 year now). however somehow its not the best camera system for me. the telephoto yes it beats every other phone ive seen & used so far. but macro is worse, main & ultra wide is either as good or a bit worse as others, depending on scene & user preference. also in comparison protrait mode falls a bit behind against other models sometimes but thats just a minor thing. is it still great? ofc. & the ultra will maybe "fix" of the issues to be a top tier camera system
Even if this was officially sold in the US which we all know it's not, I can't see picking it over my Pixel 8 Pro currently. I am pretty much all in on Google services and companies like Oppo/Vivo/OP, they deviate too much from stock Android in how they do things on their Android overlays and I prefer the Pixel experience above all. Putting that aside and just consider this for it's camera prowess, I've never felt a Pixel flagship's camera lacking in any particular area for me to look for anything else but I still like to see what others have to offer.
@futurefamily4498 The sensors on the 9 Pro phones haven't changed from the 8 Pro but you could argue due to other software refinements that the 9 Pro is slightly better but nowhere near night and day and most won't be able to take the pictures taken on a 8 Pro from a 9 Pro.
What u mean by design both looks the same except a zeiss logo on the back big circular module in both and os in oppo is basically the copy of iOS and for camera both are almost the same where Vivo excells in portraits shots
@@Fotos_cam design comes as personal preference brother for u oppos design is great but for me i like the vivos and for colour os packs the same features as every android and now with they copied apple for sure they implemented the camera button of iPhone Moreover they took dynamic island as well and if u look the notification panel side by side you'll know it looks almost the same as ios
Not as good as iPhone 16 pro max. To me the best phone needs to be optimized as a whole system. Not only the best camera etc. But the whole package need to be great.
I agree with that last sentence. Not so much with the rest as the iPhone 16 pro max doesn't come close to fitting that criteria if we're talking about solely the phone. The 13 pro max has the better argument for being the better optimized phone at this point.
I have both the 16 Pro Max as primary and X200 Pro as secondary. The iPhone is much more polished, stable and has a vastly superior ecosystem but the Vivo is more versatile and much more fun to play with.
There getting better but i dont think there worth the price ,I mean some phones are getting the prices of an pixel pro or s24 which are still the kings in my opinion ,Its a nice bit of kit but you always struggle to get cases or at least good cases for chinise phones ,
What's the main thing you need from your smartphone's camera system?
@@MarkEllisReviews Hassleblad Ai and processing built-in cameras
You should try the Xiaomi 14 Ultra! Or wait for the 15 ultra which will have the same periscope lens
1st : Dynamic range (night and day)
2nd: Details (i want the photo to look great on big screens)
3rd: As less lens flare as possible (Vivo is by far the best at this)
4th: Shutter speed ( i want to capture clear photos of people or things that move)
5th : Zoom 5X and 10X
6th : Not intense sharpening, not intense saturation, not intense noise reduction (i hate the oil paint effect)
Currently daily driving both the 16 Pro Max and X200 Pro right now. It's no contest. The X200 Pro absolutely smokes the iPhone in photos
Hi there. Mind sharing your overall experience with both? I record a lot of videos and would prefer the best one out of the two since most people i know says that no phones could beat apples video quality. Could you give me ur honest feedback please?
@@blankflower2067in terms of videos I still prefer the iPhone in terms of stabilization, color accuracy and lens transitions. Both have log footage though so if you put either one in a gimbal, they will look very very close.
The global version?
@@arondyte318 that's really helpful thanks! 👍
@@virtuatonyyes
I have used it for about 1 month -no complaints.
Yes, the camera is really really good
How is the battery life, compared to your last phone, which was?
@MoonWalkCTO Battery life is good too. 34% on heavy use (camera on all the time for taking pictures on roaming in another country) from 10 am to 8 pm. My last phone was x100pro -decided to upgrade
Amazing smartphone.. no doubt.. no issues with software.. and you can feel premium build quality..
The camera on this is so good! And it's not getting enough credit
I'm blown away, mate - and you're right, it isn't getting the headlines it deserves.
Watching with my Vivo x200 pro that I got for 51k pesos about 870 usd. I have the 512 gb variant and yeah, the camera is so amazing! Good thing this phone is easy to find in my country.
51k how you got it?
@satishkumarbangargi8905 I have contacts that ordering it directly in China
Watching in my vivo x200 pro.. Just one thing I miss from switching from 24 ulta is the anti reflection screen.. Rest it's smokes in every area
Same. But for me I used tempered glass so no loss for me 😅 but I do miss the good lock
Yep, that's one area where the S24 Ultra sings.
Do you miss One Ui ?
I tried the x200 Pro but the Ui is too bland and boring for me.
@@mkzai nova prime and KWGT get the job done
How is the battery life, compared to your 24ultra?
Using alongside on my s24 ultra, it smokes the gslaxy on camera, loving it.
Really ? 😢..... I feel same ....my s24 ultra is performing very bad at low light conditions....and 50 and 200mp modes are horrible ......very bad image quality
Watching this in my x200 pro 😍
Thanks for another great video 😀 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family 🎅🎄🇩🇰
Thank you - same to you!
If only it had a better UI, would easily take over samsung if so. People still prefer samsung because of OneUI
I don't know if you have experience with it but if not you should try it. I swapped from Samsung to oppo which has basically the same os and I much prefer it to one UI. Incredibly smooth experience and highly customisable with some great added features over stock android.
I’ve been looking at Magic OS seems pretty good on videos
Nova Launcher.
UI is a none issue
@@nikc1313 It's not bad. But not close to samsung, especially when you look at goodlock etc. And a lot more to talk about. It's a complete package.
Nah I don't like One UI. It's not any better than the rest of UX between Android.
X200 pro is unbeatable ❤
How's the sound quality?
How about the NFC function?
Alright!!!! Thanks for coming through with 💪🏾
Thanks for sharing this!!
Where can you buy this phone in the US?
Will the Vivo 200 Pro appear on UK market at all ??
The pictures do look very very good .. great colour and resolution ❤
Watching on my X200 pro. Excellent phone indeed. Just changed from S23 ultra.
How is the battery life in general, compared to the S23u ?
@@MoonWalkCTOIt should be better than s23 ultra bcs my bro has Vivo v40 that itself is giving batter battery life compared to my friend s24 ultra.
How is the video compared to s23u and the video audio?
Also, any comments around apps and daily use?
Excellent explanation. Where can I buy the international version in UK? please advise
Ordered yesterday for 1099€ with 16+512 in the official vivo page. A complete steel ! Only bad thing I see is the 3 years of so updates... Could be atleas 4 of os updates and 5 security
What is the Vivo official page, I live in France. Edit: I found it, you just need to change European country, let's say Spain and you can buy it
. I try with Spain.I am from Croatia and no success
It is 4 OS updates now
*steal
Vivo 4 year, oppo 5 year
I love my VIVO X200 Pro its the best android I've ever used, and flawless, and as for the camera, I don't see any phone in 2025 beating it next year, only another Vivo release. ❤😊🎄⛄🥳
How is the battery life, compared to your last phone, which was?
@MoonWalkCTO 15 Pro Max pixel 9 Pro XL S24 Ultra bought them all and regretted it. Battery life on VIVO X200 Pro excellent, better than all previous 3 phones. Phone works flawlessly best Android I've ever owned, camera best I've ever had. I will not be going back to any of the previous makes again.
A good smartphone, for me the best phone for photography on the main sensor is the HUAWEI Pura70Ultra, but this one is better in zoom and video 👍
Honor magic 7 pro is also a good camera . Cant be doing with the big cameras on these though so went with the one plus 13
Got it for 85k here.. 512gb / 16gb . 😍 Oh man .. its the best
Dunno man, I personally won't pay more than 65k
@mkzai it's your choice.. will you happily pay for iPhone 16 + for 89k?
@mkzai It has similar camera specs to 16pro max .. try getting a promax with 512gb storage.
But the issue is whosoever working in IT product , services or consulting firms, most of them are going to restrict the chinese phones with their official app usage in these phones due to data leakage issue mostly in India. Thus, either one should have apple or samsung to comply with their company ecosystem. If you are one of them try using office teams whatever firm you are working and see if you receive notifications properly or not.
@@travelraw5788 ohhkay , I don't work in IT.. but for general usage it has fantastic performance. it depends on the personal preference.
Hi, good review.! Based on your use, did u find Funtouch OS lacking in anyway? Some reviewers say that its quite 'lacking' when compared to MagicOS or Colour OS, etc. Real life usage thoughts on that? also how is low light videography and zoom etc? Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words. For general use (which is how I use my phones), it honestly doesn't feel any different to any other iteration of Android I've used over the last two years.
I'm on 16 pro max like it so far after being with Android for many years is a fresh change for my personally
Iphones are complete crap full stop ,How could you honestly move from android phone to a good dam iphone ,There terrible
@@zippy2175 why would you ridicule someone for choosing a product? It's jUST a phone. Apart from fact that you can't seem to cope with someone thinking differently to you!
Anybody know if the warranty is valid outside internationally? I live in Thailand and am considering buying it from Alibaba with the Chinese ROM. But I only want it if the warranty will be valid here should something go wrong.
So happy with my x200 pro 1
Mark, I can't say anything about the vivo x200 pro since I don't have one. However, I don't doubt anything you say about it since I have the vivo x100 pro. Even the x100 pro was leaps and bounds ahead of what I've had before. I had the sony xperia 1v and the samsung galaxy s23 ultra, which were both supposedly known for their camera systems. But they are nothing compared to the x100 pro. So I am certain that the x200 pro would have made much more improvement over the x100 pro. It's my next purchase, unless of course if I can hold my horses till the x300 pro. Hahaha
Currently using X100 Pro CN Rom. Still thinking to upgrade or not.
For video try motioncam app! Can record in Raw!
Where even can you find this in the uk?
I don’t see any downside with this phone. I’ll 1000% buy it here in America. But we like to slap tariffs here what can I say
Vivo x200 pro or Oppo Find8 Pro? In your opinion, which has a better camera system?
Can you review the Nubia Z70 Ultra camera?
just a question sir, hows the performance of the camera if were to use it on social media like tikok etc ..
I would suggest you not to record in the apps but to record in vivos camera app then post on social media. The photos are the best in the world and the video is just short of iPhones
May you do video on the system of vivo and battery age.
Very nice video
The Oppo Find X7 Ultra is amazing too. Have you tried that one Mark?
Yes I have but the issue is its not that good when switching the lens and also the painting type of images kick in way too early while zooming in
how does this compare to oneplus 13 or oppo find 8x pro ?
ZTE NUBIA Z70 ULTRA IS MY CHOICE OF PHONE
Yes,interesting phone but...
Camera King
It looks good. Cameras sound good. I can’t really imagine not using an iPhone. Is it made by a Chinese company? Are there any security concerns? Vivo do apparently collect user data and possibly sell it according to Quora.
I'd rather a Chinese company have my data than Apple!!
Great review, but the X100 Ultra is better 💪
How many OS updates for vivo x200 pro?
Till 2029
You can find an s24 ultra or a Xiaomi 14 ultra for 800 euros, whereas the x200 pro is around 1300.. idk why or how are people saying the vivo is cheaper than any other flagship. It's pretty much the most expensive, outside of the 16 pro max
Love the way you edit the photos. Waiting for my x200pro (china Rom) it was a steal 755$ after discount 😊
How did you find it so cheap? Is it that cheap because of the Chinese ROM?
Ha, thanks! Although I should definitely confirm that these photos are straight out of the camera - no edits!
Where can I buy the international version can you recommend any website?
Agree this is the best phone going if you can find one lately Lol
I still love my x90 pro plus and my x100 ultra, mine both don't run fun touch, one runs origin OS4 and the ultra runs origin OS5, Chinese software blows away global software, so many more features
xiaomi14 ultra or vivo x200pro takes closer to real life pics?
still waiting for global version till that i'm using Honor Magic 6 Pro
Can china rom use as normal at other country?
Yes. I'm currently using it. you don't get android auto, and I wouldn't trust it with payments however you totally. Other than that everything works perfectly and the photos this captures are replacing my dslr soon
i've heard the x100 ultra has a slightly better camera. can you attest?
I'd buy the S24U without any question now. Why? It is the cheapest flagship now and probably still the best or the most polished all-rounder. Almost a year old and with Samsung phones deals emerging after just a few months, so now it is dirt cheap!
I love this phone & the cameras, but I couldn’t handle the look of the software. I am used to IOS, Pixel UI & One UI
Can vivo x200pro record calls?
Finally you got the camera beast ❤I have been using it for nearly 2 months ditching the s24 ultra 😅 No regards
Or regrets
I want to buy one vivo x200 pro but as compared to google pixel 9pro xl which camera is good?
😢me too thinking to switch by seeing bad camera performance on my s24 ultra
I sometimes wonder if we want a smartphone or simply a camera?
hi
Curve screen?
ever slightly
Samsung S24 Ultra the best thing smoking 🔥
That and the X100 ultra are no.1 and no.2 which order too close to call
I will go buy one😂
Going to buy x200 pro and selling my iphone 14 pro cus of camera
A smartphone camera is good when you take photos of food in a restaurant in low light and the photos turn out realistically. There are very, very few of those smartphones. And I haven't seen a single photo of the vivo that was taken in a restaurant in liw light conditions. This fact makes me doubt whether it really has a good camera.
So you think we're all keeping these secret low-light restaurant photos from you? 🤔
I wonder if this vivo phone has missed notification issue just like vivo x fold 3 pro 😏😏😏😏
china variant originOS much better than thr global variant functouchOS , many camera features on china variant while the global is incomplete
The X200 Pro takes excellent photographs, but it's video quality is not quite there. Stabilization problems using 4K 60 video, and lens flare problems that have only been partially cured by a poor software update, make videography an unrewarding experience on this device. The software quality and optimization on the device overall are both poor, and Vivo's record on the quality of it's tech and after sales support is sadly lacking. If you import this device, you could be asking for one headache after another. Don't say you weren't warned.
You talk nonsense and you don't even own the phone. The video quality and stabilization is better than iPhone: ruclips.net/video/9o0BXjlHa-c/видео.html
The X100 Ultra was the best smartphone camera of 2023 so I’m not surprised this is the best of 2024.
That Zeiss partnership is paying off big time.
Why compare it to a DSLR? You know that all camera manufacturers (except pentax) abandoned DSLRs years ago?
Because I'm 44.
@@MarkEllisReviewsnice answer 😂
it only provides 4 years of OS upgrade
I am a lucky, I can Buy😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
why so many bots comments here 😂
I don't like the colors of the x200 pro, they are saturated, the xiaomi 15 ultra will surpass this vivo... but in certain photos they are not good for me it is not the smartphone of the year there are better ones such as xiaomi 14 ultra but the funtouchOS 15 software is not the best but oppo find X8 Pro is the best I would not buy the vivo x200 pro for me it is not the best
1️⃣ I agree: it's a great phone and has best cameras of 2024.
2️⃣ I disagree: Funtouch, OneUi, PixelUi, Nothing OS, Colors OS or Hyper OS have their difference.
The OS is still something mainly important for me. Same for the consistency with those updates over the time.
🎄Happy Christmas for you and your family
Ikr the OS is very very important but it seems like almost all of these reviewers review is the cameras, like wtf there not 99 million photographers out here smh
So to answer the question
It is Not The Best Phone Camera as Good as it is.
Xiaomi 14Ultra and Huawei Pura 70 Ultra Produce Better Photos
But Personal Preference s all About
👍😊
First
Would’ve nabbed it if it weren’t for that bloody curved screen.
It's barely curved, mate.
Photos are great but everything else is not my taste. Don’t like curved screen, design and software.
And it’s a Chinese phone and we all know how massive the government is involved in Chinese manufactures. People will say it’s a myth but I just don’t trust them just like Temu and TikTok.
not global for me & even still restricted in countries next to me to import (yes they arent banned here & allowed to sell again for over 1 year now). however somehow its not the best camera system for me. the telephoto yes it beats every other phone ive seen & used so far. but macro is worse, main & ultra wide is either as good or a bit worse as others, depending on scene & user preference. also in comparison protrait mode falls a bit behind against other models sometimes but thats just a minor thing. is it still great? ofc. & the ultra will maybe "fix" of the issues to be a top tier camera system
Best opțion îs Honor magic 7 pro
This is an expensive mobile in India..
Potrait is good but skin tone is unrealistic, not so much details, smooth & pale.
Curved display 😢
Even if this was officially sold in the US which we all know it's not, I can't see picking it over my Pixel 8 Pro currently. I am pretty much all in on Google services and companies like Oppo/Vivo/OP, they deviate too much from stock Android in how they do things on their Android overlays and I prefer the Pixel experience above all.
Putting that aside and just consider this for it's camera prowess, I've never felt a Pixel flagship's camera lacking in any particular area for me to look for anything else but I still like to see what others have to offer.
is pixel 8 pro good and have good camera than p9 series?
I want to buy 8pro
@futurefamily4498 The sensors on the 9 Pro phones haven't changed from the 8 Pro but you could argue due to other software refinements that the 9 Pro is slightly better but nowhere near night and day and most won't be able to take the pictures taken on a 8 Pro from a 9 Pro.
Now im decided, im leaving Apple!
Oppo Find X8 looks way better in terms of design. ColorOS is also much better than Vivo's OS.
Thats your personal opinion isnt it?
No
If you don't do benchmarks for the processor and battery , it shows you are a lazy person....
Best phone is huawei mate 70 series
Oppo Findx8 is much better than this in design and software and also the camera setup in Oppo is great.
What u mean by design both looks the same except a zeiss logo on the back big circular module in both and os in oppo is basically the copy of iOS and for camera both are almost the same where Vivo excells in portraits shots
@FebinCJ-cm9bf firstly Oppo ColorOs is not the copy of iOS secondly the design is mostly same but Oppo is much better.
@@Fotos_cam design comes as personal preference brother for u oppos design is great but for me i like the vivos and for colour os packs the same features as every android and now with they copied apple for sure they implemented the camera button of iPhone Moreover they took dynamic island as well and if u look the notification panel side by side you'll know it looks almost the same as ios
Poor man iphone😅
Not as good as iPhone 16 pro max. To me the best phone needs to be optimized as a whole system. Not only the best camera etc. But the whole package need to be great.
Have you ever even used Vivo phone? :D I love these Apple fans.
I agree with that last sentence. Not so much with the rest as the iPhone 16 pro max doesn't come close to fitting that criteria if we're talking about solely the phone. The 13 pro max has the better argument for being the better optimized phone at this point.
@@majtechtings I owned 13 Pro Max and switched to 16 Pro Max. I'm impressed. Video quality is so much better.
I have both the 16 Pro Max as primary and X200 Pro as secondary. The iPhone is much more polished, stable and has a vastly superior ecosystem but the Vivo is more versatile and much more fun to play with.
There getting better but i dont think there worth the price ,I mean some phones are getting the prices of an pixel pro or s24 which are still the kings in my opinion ,Its a nice bit of kit but you always struggle to get cases or at least good cases for chinise phones ,