As a viewer/vod-watcher, I'd much prefer RUclips over Twitch. The ability to just go back to a certain point in the stream is so convenient. There's also the timestamp heroes on the RUclips VODs that do a great job of putting up the timestamps on the comments after the stream has ended. I feel like RUclips is more for the viewers, while Twitch is more for the streamers.
That's so true, I'm so used to watching RUclips videos sometimes I'll subconsciously click the left arrow key to go back on a Twitch livestream and realize it's live lmao
@@mattblakk_ No kidding. Twitch streams are the video equivalent of 1998 Geocities websites, tons of animated gifs all over and auto-playing sound queues interrupting the flow.
It makes sense yeah. i think the only one who might not go back to Twitch anytime soon is Rae. She was already streaming on RUclips when she blew up, she cemented her presence there. I can see her maybe dual-streaming for a while when her contract is up, to see how things go though.
Ehhh.. it's not about cementijg the platform. you just have to be entertaining period. Speed, Ludwig and the Dr are great examples. They get crazy numbers.
I understand why from a streamer's perspective you'd prefer twitch. The chat and streaming experience is way way better. But from a viewer perspective, youtube has a waaaay better player and vod system.
I think lud said it best twitch is more for streamer/chatter RUclips is more for viewers and lurks. Now Neal did say it was being worked on but unless there a big change/ or something to show for it not much value for someone like him
There was at the beginning to create buzz but now that the numbers fell about half for every streamer, theres no point to do it. Everyone went back to work after the covid era ended so it makes sense.
@@illinoisfarmer6316There's two different ones. One is called Unofficial Sykkuno Vods and has Yuno as the profile picture, and the other one is just called Sykkuno Vods. The second one posts timestamps for when he starts certain games in the description.
every time a streamer moves from a platform i wonder what happens to the money of all the people that subbed or gifted subs a day o couple of days prior to the change
Twitch streams are the video equivalent of 1998 Geocities websites, tons of animated gifs all over and auto-playing sound queues interrupting the flow.
I've just started to try youtube live streaming, and honestly, it's much better for people just starting out. I've actually had people show up in my stream and interact. I've streamed 5 times so far and I think pretty much every single time I've had someone interacting and joining in on the fun. A couple years ago I streamed various games on twitch for 3 months every day, and I had no interaction at all. When you're a big player, twitch seems like a good place to be. But as a nobody? RUclips has been a place where I at least have a chance
@AkankshaAnand12 From my brief time doing this, I would say yes. However, you need to also post other kinds of content in order to grow. Growing from livestreams in general is tough. I'm only starting out so take this with a grain of salt.
If you have people finding you from elsewhere, such as ig or something, Twitch is great. But if you don't, RUclips is better because it helps people find smaller content creators more easily I think. I randomly tuned into a super random livestream on RUclips recently that was a couple just talking to chat and fixing their car, 15 of us were there. I definitely wouldn't have found them on Twitch.
Twitch has been technologically stagnant since they were acquired by Amazon a DECADE ago. The Twitch player, vod system, and god-awful mobile app are so far behind modern day expectations it's not even funny.
Definitely miss the community feeling that twitch provides. Even if watching RUclips is easier, quality is better and so on. I can understand how it can feel a little isolating for a streamer.
@@starquarzt Yea and its so much easier imo on youtube to watch from beginning to catch up with the stream since we dont have to go back and foward, at least there some people already posting the vods which is great cause i dont watch him anymore on twitch it keep crashing idk why
Guess i won't be tuning in to his stream anymore. Twitch sucks for VODs watcher like me and RUclips is the best for people like me since it's easier to navigate and there's always someone putting timestamps for the whole stream but i guess it is what it is.
She said it because it is true, and not a secret. RUclips has made conscious decisions to both not support their streaming technology platform and not continue renewing many of its long standing youtube streaming deals once they have run their course. It has been coasting on their expensive youtube premium subscriptions.
It’s his decision but his friends on twitch chose not to raid him on RUclips after they found out he moved when RUclips got the Raid feature they never raided him.
@@angelsis2222they could have done that then the only person that did that was Rae just because he was on RUclips doesn’t mean they can’t spam his link or raid him when they were able to which they didn’t do. People act like he was in Narnia it’s just simple type his name and a click away
People keep saying viewers prefer RUclips, yet almost every streamer always ends up getting higher viewership on Twitch. Why do you think no one streams on RUclips unless they're given a bag, or banned from Twitch? No question Twitch is the best platform for streaming
@@aelam02 Okay I didn't know that about how computer vs mobile device quality. I've only used Android tablets or phones to view Twitch/RUclips or do literally anything. I dont use a computer unless I have to. Most things just run smoother with RUclips but the app does use a lot of cache and storage. I don't really care about interactions with people in chat. I don't engage in conversations or read or add emotes in chat either. I view to watch the story and how it unfolds each day if I can.
Twitch is just waayyy better for streamers. RUclips is only good for video makers of influencers who make viral content & Sykkuno’s videos almost never go viral so he doesn’t fit that category, he’s a stable streamer instead of a viral content creator so Twitch is better for him for sure. The only times he has ever went viral is Among us days & that was because of Toast & his being part of OTV & friends or his early GTA RP days which was because of XQC, other then that he never went viral on his own.
why can’t he be honest?? And what even is his point about “friends” raiding and how many of them are in a platform, clearly he’s scared of falling off and wants easier acces to exposure, growth, or basically clout. But, it’s too late he’s obviously falling off already and the decline is actually unbelievable he used to be as big as Hasan & Lirik... People argue he’s not pushing for growth & new viewers but... stream-hours and more live-streams in general, beat that by a lot... viewers want that more than a variety of content but they get it every 3 days to 1 week which his friends does. Sykkuno streams a lot & a lot of entertaining games but clearly the viewers outgrew him very fast he even talked about before how some of his most passionate viewers would leave heartfelt messages & claim how loyal they are but one day when he rechecks they haven’t watched him for months. Sykkuno is known, but he is not the type to be enjoyed for a long time by the majority. His humour is the most repetetive and he laughs for the smallest reasons which might stem from a mental disorder spectrum a little similar to xQc & AngryGinge these explains why he’s not as big as those 10k-20k andys anymore...
I mean, I was a huge fan from 2020 onwards until he moved to RUclips. His schedule changed a bit, and mine did as well, so that made tuning in tough. Between that and constantly not getting the notification that he was live, despite having them turned on, I continually missed the streams. He's also changed a bit since those days, plus Among Us faded out, and that's what got me into watching him to begin with, along with Rust. All of that combined is why I stopped watching, but now that he's back on Twitch, I'm finally notified that he's live, which helps a lot. Unfortunately, I think a large chunk of his viewership was around because of Corpse Husband always playing games with him, as people loved seeing them interact, along with the fact that he was sweeter toward his friends back then. He was very humble at the beginning of his streaming career, and constantly lifted up his friends, which was a quality that a lot of people really wanted to be more like. He's always trolled around, but then I think that eventually, trolling began dominating his personality, so the viewers that liked when he used to be sweeter gravitated to other streamers. Someone even said in another thread somewhere that he changed so much that they felt like they were fooled into believing he was something that he wasn't, I personally think he genuinely just changed as a person, as people do. I still think he's doing well for himself as a streamer. Plus if he's still making the same amount of money when Twitch leaked it, he'll be just fine.
As a viewer/vod-watcher, I'd much prefer RUclips over Twitch. The ability to just go back to a certain point in the stream is so convenient. There's also the timestamp heroes on the RUclips VODs that do a great job of putting up the timestamps on the comments after the stream has ended. I feel like RUclips is more for the viewers, while Twitch is more for the streamers.
That's so true, I'm so used to watching RUclips videos sometimes I'll subconsciously click the left arrow key to go back on a Twitch livestream and realize it's live lmao
Agreed, I didn't even watch the twitch stream because I don't really enjoy twitch personally
Btw did syk YT contract counted each year or 3 year at once?
twitch has a toxic ecosystem i can’t watch the streams more than 10 minutes at a time
@@mattblakk_ No kidding. Twitch streams are the video equivalent of 1998 Geocities websites, tons of animated gifs all over and auto-playing sound queues interrupting the flow.
It makes sense yeah. i think the only one who might not go back to Twitch anytime soon is Rae. She was already streaming on RUclips when she blew up, she cemented her presence there. I can see her maybe dual-streaming for a while when her contract is up, to see how things go though.
Yup I see her and Leslie doing to dual stream.
Ehhh.. it's not about cementijg the platform. you just have to be entertaining period. Speed, Ludwig and the Dr are great examples. They get crazy numbers.
I understand why from a streamer's perspective you'd prefer twitch. The chat and streaming experience is way way better. But from a viewer perspective, youtube has a waaaay better player and vod system.
I think lud said it best twitch is more for streamer/chatter RUclips is more for viewers and lurks. Now Neal did say it was being worked on but unless there a big change/ or something to show for it not much value for someone like him
Looks like all the big platforms realized there's not a big enough return to offer exclusivity deals
There was at the beginning to create buzz but now that the numbers fell about half for every streamer, theres no point to do it. Everyone went back to work after the covid era ended so it makes sense.
Now I'm thinking back on his "moving to RUclips announcement" video lol
Sucks for me. No more 5-8hr youtube vods for me to watch/listen to while im at work :( i dont support twitch or use the platform.
There is an unofficial vod channel that posts the vods.
Which is? @@catloverliya
@@illinoisfarmer6316There's two different ones. One is called Unofficial Sykkuno Vods and has Yuno as the profile picture, and the other one is just called Sykkuno Vods. The second one posts timestamps for when he starts certain games in the description.
@@catloverliya name?
@@CainCorvinus
*search Sykkuno unofficial vods*
Yuno pfp- newer vods
Green pfp- older vods
every time a streamer moves from a platform i wonder what happens to the money of all the people that subbed or gifted subs a day o couple of days prior to the change
they get a refund
Twitch streams are the video equivalent of 1998 Geocities websites, tons of animated gifs all over and auto-playing sound queues interrupting the flow.
I’d highly prefer watching on RUclips because I’m mostly a vod watcher and the vods are better on RUclips and they have the timestamps feature
I've just started to try youtube live streaming, and honestly, it's much better for people just starting out.
I've actually had people show up in my stream and interact. I've streamed 5 times so far and I think pretty much every single time I've had someone interacting and joining in on the fun. A couple years ago I streamed various games on twitch for 3 months every day, and I had no interaction at all.
When you're a big player, twitch seems like a good place to be. But as a nobody? RUclips has been a place where I at least have a chance
I'm planning to do live streams too. Do you think RUclips is the way?
@AkankshaAnand12 From my brief time doing this, I would say yes. However, you need to also post other kinds of content in order to grow. Growing from livestreams in general is tough. I'm only starting out so take this with a grain of salt.
If you have people finding you from elsewhere, such as ig or something, Twitch is great. But if you don't, RUclips is better because it helps people find smaller content creators more easily I think. I randomly tuned into a super random livestream on RUclips recently that was a couple just talking to chat and fixing their car, 15 of us were there. I definitely wouldn't have found them on Twitch.
@@aliciamoon9816 I'm sold!
I wil definitely miss the times where i can just pop into stream when watching youtube. Hope he will try out double vod out.
Twitch has been technologically stagnant since they were acquired by Amazon a DECADE ago. The Twitch player, vod system, and god-awful mobile app are so far behind modern day expectations it's not even funny.
Definitely miss the community feeling that twitch provides. Even if watching RUclips is easier, quality is better and so on. I can understand how it can feel a little isolating for a streamer.
I thought he say trying to figure out multiplatform stream 😥
He did, but he also really prefers a simple setup so I wouldn't hold your breath.
I hate the vods system on twitch tbh, I love the emote only chat mode tho
Same, it's hard to see a specific part because there's no timestamp
@@starquarzt Yea and its so much easier imo on youtube to watch from beginning to catch up with the stream since we dont have to go back and foward, at least there some people already posting the vods which is great cause i dont watch him anymore on twitch it keep crashing idk why
Guess i won't be tuning in to his stream anymore. Twitch sucks for VODs watcher like me and RUclips is the best for people like me since it's easier to navigate and there's always someone putting timestamps for the whole stream but i guess it is what it is.
Cant he multistream?
I wish they’d just multi stream for the lurkers that don’t chat anyway and would rather watch on RUclips
that’s unfortunate, hopefully he’ll pull an LK and continue enjoying his streaming career! Best of luck to Sykkuno!
She said it because it is true, and not a secret. RUclips has made conscious decisions to both not support their streaming technology platform and not continue renewing many of its long standing youtube streaming deals once they have run their course. It has been coasting on their expensive youtube premium subscriptions.
They didn't offer him more money so he went back SIMPLE.
sukkuno back on twitch? didn't think he ever wanted to be back
Watching this now, things have changed haha. Doubt he'll cost costream with the doc now haha
So is he get the special deal from twitch or will they take 30 percentage of this sub money
I guess they finally spelt is name right
In other words, he didn't get another bag from YT 😂
Bruh, she was wrong. The people who watch were on RUclips. I'm so so sad 💔
It’s his decision but his friends on twitch chose not to raid him on RUclips after they found out he moved when RUclips got the Raid feature they never raided him.
They couldnt raid him from twitch to youtube, theyd have to spam his link in their chats.
@@angelsis2222they could have done that then the only person that did that was Rae just because he was on RUclips doesn’t mean they can’t spam his link or raid him when they were able to which they didn’t do.
People act like he was in Narnia it’s just simple type his name and a click away
@@angelsis2222people on twitch can raid people on RUclips
@@Jordan-777 Yea youre right about that
People keep saying viewers prefer RUclips, yet almost every streamer always ends up getting higher viewership on Twitch. Why do you think no one streams on RUclips unless they're given a bag, or banned from Twitch? No question Twitch is the best platform for streaming
youtube has at least 5 huge streamers and the viewer experience is way better
Did you tube misspell his name too? What a drama queen.
Whats the song 1:00 fellas
I think if he uploads vods it’s the same for me
Twitches interface is not good
Of course it better. Yhe quality that 4k playback and ads and auto playback and pause yeah it's better. NOT! SYKKUNO WHO?
The live experience is way better on twitch. I agree vods suck but ads? just get an adblocker cmon now we in 2024 lmao
@@aelam02 I have an older device that can't use an adblocker plus you can't pause or rewind
@@Jo3W3st yea i agree the playback is much better on YT for sure. and if you're on mobile yea twitch sucks there too very fair point
@@aelam02 Okay I didn't know that about how computer vs mobile device quality. I've only used Android tablets or phones to view Twitch/RUclips or do literally anything. I dont use a computer unless I have to. Most things just run smoother with RUclips but the app does use a lot of cache and storage. I don't really care about interactions with people in chat. I don't engage in conversations or read or add emotes in chat either. I view to watch the story and how it unfolds each day if I can.
I have not got a single ad on sykkuno stream😂@@Jo3W3st
Twitch is just waayyy better for streamers. RUclips is only good for video makers of influencers who make viral content & Sykkuno’s videos almost never go viral so he doesn’t fit that category, he’s a stable streamer instead of a viral content creator so Twitch is better for him for sure. The only times he has ever went viral is Among us days & that was because of Toast & his being part of OTV & friends or his early GTA RP days which was because of XQC, other then that he never went viral on his own.
I Disguised Toast X Dr. Disrespect stream would be hilarious to watch lol
RUclips is bad for streaming. If they made a standalone streaming app that can connect with the main app that’ll be good
why can’t he be honest?? And what even is his point about “friends” raiding and how many of them are in a platform, clearly he’s scared of falling off and wants easier acces to exposure, growth, or basically clout.
But, it’s too late he’s obviously falling off already and the decline is actually unbelievable he used to be as big as Hasan & Lirik... People argue he’s not pushing for growth & new viewers but... stream-hours and more live-streams in general, beat that by a lot... viewers want that more than a variety of content but they get it every 3 days to 1 week which his friends does. Sykkuno streams a lot & a lot of entertaining games but clearly the viewers outgrew him very fast he even talked about before how some of his most passionate viewers would leave heartfelt messages & claim how loyal they are but one day when he rechecks they haven’t watched him for months.
Sykkuno is known, but he is not the type to be enjoyed for a long time by the majority. His humour is the most repetetive and he laughs for the smallest reasons which might stem from a mental disorder spectrum a little similar to xQc & AngryGinge these explains why he’s not as big as those 10k-20k andys anymore...
I mean, I was a huge fan from 2020 onwards until he moved to RUclips. His schedule changed a bit, and mine did as well, so that made tuning in tough. Between that and constantly not getting the notification that he was live, despite having them turned on, I continually missed the streams.
He's also changed a bit since those days, plus Among Us faded out, and that's what got me into watching him to begin with, along with Rust. All of that combined is why I stopped watching, but now that he's back on Twitch, I'm finally notified that he's live, which helps a lot.
Unfortunately, I think a large chunk of his viewership was around because of Corpse Husband always playing games with him, as people loved seeing them interact, along with the fact that he was sweeter toward his friends back then. He was very humble at the beginning of his streaming career, and constantly lifted up his friends, which was a quality that a lot of people really wanted to be more like. He's always trolled around, but then I think that eventually, trolling began dominating his personality, so the viewers that liked when he used to be sweeter gravitated to other streamers. Someone even said in another thread somewhere that he changed so much that they felt like they were fooled into believing he was something that he wasn't, I personally think he genuinely just changed as a person, as people do.
I still think he's doing well for himself as a streamer. Plus if he's still making the same amount of money when Twitch leaked it, he'll be just fine.
I'm a fan, but can admit I will not watch on Twitch, only RUclips. Sooooo, his loss I guess
Not gamer. No opinion.