Calvin and Eagle are my two favourites. They strike me as nice young men, one calm, cool and methodical the other wild, spirited and passionate. Opposing ends of the scale, phenomenal athletes and immensely entertaining
Innova players be like “for my distance drivers I carry seven destroyers” 😂 Love watching Calvin play, feel like he would be really fun to play with in person.
We need more Calvin content - especially since he’s the only top 5 - maybe top 10 pro now on team Innova, let’s see him get the spotlight a little more! :)
The big arms rarely go over a 12 speed, pretty amazing. I found a brand new 14 speed in a champion type plastic at a local course and just laughed and put it on the basket. Big fan of Calvin, always rooting for him!
In a tournament you don't ever need to throw 600 feet so going over speed 12 just means less control. You only see MVP players throwing 14 speed really and maybe Trilogy. Now in distance comp you'll see 13-14 used.
True, but they compensate that with stability usually. What I can do with a stable speed 11 driver is different than what Calvin, Simon, etc. can do with it. Mine is for wind, skips, spike hyzers and so on. Theirs are straight 550ft bombs, or the other things I mentioned.
@@brian6speed I throw mainly MVP, and have tried a few of the high speed drivers but my hand isn't large enough for it to be comfortable. They flew really well when I did things right, but wasn't worth the trouble to change. For me, the Wrath, Fission Photon, and Trace are where it's at, at speed 11.
So Stoked he did an updated in the bag, not really much difference since his last ITB but that’s why I like the guy and his bag so much, as an innova guy myself I always look to limit molds and Calvin always keeps minimal molds and gets all uses out of them. I do however bag a zone, teebird, and boss but have very similar bag to Calvin.
@@brian6speed The marketing genius of Innova at it's best! Buy discs that our pros don't even throw! It might work, or it might cut your hand...it's a surprise with every disc!
Great guy, good video. I take after him lots when it comes to discs too. Personal favorites in order: Roc3, Thunderbird and Krait (super straight for me).
Krait is a great disc I have one in blizzard plastic (141g) it’s super fun to throw, rip it full power a lot of hyzer it’ll flip up and still get a nice big s curve for a drive around 350’ which is my max! I recommended it to anyone who throws 9-10-11 speed discs
Cool to see smart lay up shots on a montage instead of only the long ace shots..Dont get me wrong those shots are cool too but this gives you a feel of their whole game better too
Has Calvin thought of making the Pizza Destoyer his custom print. that would be cool af. i would love a disc like that in all 4 disc styles but fairway or putt and approch would be my picks. Or a putter of course as thats technically the oven.
As good a player as Calvin is, and lets be honest, he's in the top 5 in the world, he's an even better guy. He doesn't talk much, because he thinks alot:)) He's a freakin' Chemical Engineer for Crissakes!
It is, but people like the feel and they beat in a way that other more durable plastics can’t. Plus they don’t have to worry about discs they’re sponsored.
@@TheVibez_ You can throw it fine...but possibly get a ~160g...and star plastic...GStar is alright too, but Champion can be way overstable. It flies a lot like a TeeBird, but goes farther. Most disks have a specific thing they always want to do...the Destroyer does whatever you tell it to do.
After seeing how beat up your discs are I obviously watch RUclips and buy way to many discs lol.. I need to throw my D at B's more. Fun seeing what your throwing ... Such mold consistency.
Does anyone know where to find the flat and stiff “Calvin” runs of champ eagle x? I’ve ordered eagles online and even if they are the x mold they have always been gummy and domey. I guess I’m asking what the name is of the specific run that Calvin throws.
@@seanludeman4940 every time I go to huk lab I just see the eagle it never says x or L so idk but I picked up a champion one and its my new go to fairway
The dude just pulled that shirt out of the wrapping. No one pointed out that maybe he should get it ironed before they started filming. Or this is the look they wanted...?
Well... Y'all are wondering what pros throw and how... That's all very good. I do believe another video should show an amateur or new player what you should have in the bag as you're out there playing besides what kind of discs a pro has... Important items that are highly needed during the rounds ... Nobody has done it yet. A pro is a pro.. took awhile to get there but how? What kind of foods, energy sources, bad weather gear, types of backpack bags for stepping Stone players from young to adult stages.. what kind of clothes, footwear, how about helping out on the rules? No video there either... There's other ways to enjoy watching pro disc golf, but better if we knew what to bring at a tourney, how to get focused and ready... Other than that ... Pretty boring seeing a new guy talk about what he throws... Just saying.
Calvin is great man, love the guys entire vibe. But I couldn't help to think that this dude needs better discs. The fact that every Innova disc can be drastically different than others of the same mold, color, and run, is still shocking to me. How is that acceptable at all? I get how pros that get to choose from hundreds of discs can find something that works, but for the average player...how do replace something? How do you try to cycle discs without trying out 10 first to find the right one? I just honestly think every amateur player would benefit from not throwing Innova.
The depicted flight chart didn't reflect the description on how the disc flies for him. He says no matter how much heizer I give the disc and it will still turn. The chart shows no turn, ok. The chart has just as much consistency as their discs, none.
he doesn’t throw anything understable. hence the reason for the flight charts, which are for brand new discs out of the box. every company has variance between runs, its the nature of plastic. The stuff he is flipping is beat in (worn) and he throws at a professional arm speed. Become a student of the game before becoming a critic.
@@michaelyahner6695 You have little no idea what my knowledge and skill levels are. Innova is the most inconsistent manufacturer out of all the manufacturers. I have almost spent two thousand dollars on three molds in one plastic. I have Wraiths that have more turn than some Mambas. That's ridiculous the Wraith is supposed to have a turn of -1 the Mamba -5. Innova is so inconsistent it's funny. Having the flight chart reflect how a disc flies new instead of how it flies for him. Is going to be less useful for someone trying to replicate the specific shot. A person more than likely isn't going to have enough time to beat in a new disc. They will have to purchase a disc that flies like the beat in disc. Also you probably meant to say that he doesn't throw any new discs that are understandable. He definitely throws a few understable discs from his discretion. A disc that starts stable then becomes understandable with use. Is now an understable disc for all intents and purposes.
Buddy. We don't care what you've found. Those flight numbers that you're looking at at arbitrary, variation is inevitable, and when your biggest producer (by far) in the game, inconsistency is bound to happen. Get off your high horse and watch the video, and take your opinions elsewhere, cuz no one here asked for em
He kind of lost me with "Eagles are more stable than TeeBirds"...I have a champion and a star Eagle, but they aren't in my bag because they flip over so bad. But my TeeBirds are my medium distance Destroyer.
@@Vogurt Which one of these is over-stable: 7/5/0/2 or 7/4/-1/3. The Eagle has initial under-stability plus more turn at the end...for me that is still "under-stable", especially at speed 7! I liked it as a utility disc. The TeeBirds, they fly the same as my Destroyers do, but for shorter distance, shots up to ~300'.
@@fredygump5578 the lower glide of the eagle eliminates the -1 turn value. The flight numbers are not the be all, end all for how discs fly. They are relative numbers meant to give a general idea. The Eagle is most certainly more overstable than a Teebird. As someone who has thrown both molds quite a lot, I can promise you the Eagle is more overstable, lower glide, and generally more torque resistant
@@tannernoordam3620 It is hilarious that you think you can "promise" my experience away! If we were on a course, I would demonstrate. But since we are on the internet, you will have to accept that the particular flight characteristics of the Eagle yields understable results for some players.
@@fredygump5578 yes, for some players, some times. In the general setting however, the Eagle is an overstable mold, more so than the Teebird, it's very simple
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I think that dude is a future World Champion.
I completely agree. You heard it here first, 2021 world champ.
Gotta go through Mcbeth
He's a machine!
Is he a Top 5 player yet? 1. McBeth 2. Wysocki 3. Eagle 4,5,6,7 is toss up Calvin Heim, Lizotte, Chris Dickerson, Conrad, Sexton and Kevin Jones!
Calvin and Eagle are my two favourites. They strike me as nice young men, one calm, cool and methodical the other wild, spirited and passionate. Opposing ends of the scale, phenomenal athletes and immensely entertaining
This is the most I've ever heard Calvin talk and it's great
I didn’t know he talked
Innova players be like “for my distance drivers I carry seven destroyers” 😂 Love watching Calvin play, feel like he would be really fun to play with in person.
I don't use em either
@@averyprice9422 what do you throw in their place?
And discraft players are like for everything I carry an ESP nuke
@@crabtime2116 for me, I use a wraith, orc, valkyrie and viking for my distance drivers. Never had luck with throwing destroyers
I love this man! Hands down my favorite player to watch, and stoked to see what the future has in store for him. Keep it up Calvin, you Roc!
We need more Calvin content - especially since he’s the only top 5 - maybe top 10 pro now on team Innova, let’s see him get the spotlight a little more! :)
The big arms rarely go over a 12 speed, pretty amazing. I found a brand new 14 speed in a champion type plastic at a local course and just laughed and put it on the basket. Big fan of Calvin, always rooting for him!
In a tournament you don't ever need to throw 600 feet so going over speed 12 just means less control. You only see MVP players throwing 14 speed really and maybe Trilogy. Now in distance comp you'll see 13-14 used.
I have 2 shrykes and the rest 12 and below. I barely even use them unless I’m trying to throw as far as I possibly can
@@reidkemp idk honestly at thier level I doubt there is much difference in 12-14 speed discs.
True, but they compensate that with stability usually. What I can do with a stable speed 11 driver is different than what Calvin, Simon, etc. can do with it. Mine is for wind, skips, spike hyzers and so on. Theirs are straight 550ft bombs, or the other things I mentioned.
@@brian6speed I throw mainly MVP, and have tried a few of the high speed drivers but my hand isn't large enough for it to be comfortable. They flew really well when I did things right, but wasn't worth the trouble to change. For me, the Wrath, Fission Photon, and Trace are where it's at, at speed 11.
I just love Calvins putt so much
Just wait til he starts wearing sunglasses every round. He'll shoot -18 on every course
Do we have a Heimburg signature Eagle yet? Or Rhino? Or Destroyer? Man, I would cop those immediately
Tour series destroyer
So Stoked he did an updated in the bag, not really much difference since his last ITB but that’s why I like the guy and his bag so much, as an innova guy myself I always look to limit molds and Calvin always keeps minimal molds and gets all uses out of them. I do however bag a zone, teebird, and boss but have very similar bag to Calvin.
This guy is the future of disc golf gonna pass Paul up soon I’m calling it. Also the Calvin destroyers are super money love mine
I really liked this bag check. Awesome info from Calvin and great production 👌
I agree, future World Champion there. Amazing talent. Calvin and McBeast are my favorite tour players.
Such a consistent game! The guy knows his bag.
How has he not lost that teebird, absolute worst color lol
Have a puddle top eagle same color. Love its flight but I worry about it for that reason
@@loopedmess Have you tried dying discs? You can dye the whole disc to something brighter, or you can dye colorful patterns.
Pruuffi I have a lime green disc, what color could I dye it. It’s a champion firebird
@@ncdozer3103 dyeing works better on star plastic
He probably just learned how to not miss 😜
He never smiles but such a great player
such a cool kid. I want to meet him. Love playing disc golf.
Thank you Calvin!
AB in the bag!
I only watched this video to hear him speak for the first time.
I knew I wasn't the only one.
Same
Quantum Draco's are the BOMB.. professionals are finding these more and more
This was actually really good.
Wait, he doesn't even bag his own Destroyer?
he doesn't bag his other tour series either, teebird3.
@@brian6speed The marketing genius of Innova at it's best! Buy discs that our pros don't even throw! It might work, or it might cut your hand...it's a surprise with every disc!
Great guy, good video. I take after him lots when it comes to discs too. Personal favorites in order: Roc3, Thunderbird and Krait (super straight for me).
Krait is a great disc I have one in blizzard plastic (141g) it’s super fun to throw, rip it full power a lot of hyzer it’ll flip up and still get a nice big s curve for a drive around 350’ which is my max! I recommended it to anyone who throws 9-10-11 speed discs
Keep up the good work admire how humble you are really dig it. You da man Calvin rip up this year and make that coin buddy.
Wonder what the 2021 bag looks like!
A well produced information video- great format to deliver quality messaging. It’s time for some new discs!
Innova- feel free to send me samples. 😀
Cool to see smart lay up shots on a montage instead of only the long ace shots..Dont get me wrong those shots are cool too but this gives you a feel of their whole game better too
Great video Calvin. I would love to see a backhand form video from you.
Putting Calvin.
Hidden Heimburg.
Has Calvin thought of making the Pizza Destoyer his custom print. that would be cool af. i would love a disc like that in all 4 disc styles but fairway or putt and approch would be my picks. Or a putter of course as thats technically the oven.
Anyone else notice how innova didn’t put the flight path up for the draco
Good on em for even including it, free publicity for competitor
He was throwing a heimburg 2020 destroyer last weekend
As good a player as Calvin is, and lets be honest, he's in the top 5 in the world, he's an even better guy. He doesn't talk much, because he thinks alot:)) He's a freakin' Chemical Engineer for Crissakes!
He looks really comfortable on camera, as if he was just doing this by himself
Does he still bag the sling shot?
The man who would become the legendary Vinny Buckets.
Nice. I got Calvin to sign a TeeBird for me at South Florida Open last year.
I'm surprised at all the DX plastic discs. I thought that was just the beginner/budget cheap plastic!
It is, but people like the feel and they beat in a way that other more durable plastics can’t. Plus they don’t have to worry about discs they’re sponsored.
@@carson_simpson big fax
He sure loves his destroyers 💪🏼
His new destroyer is awesome!
Brandon McPheeters ive never actually thrown a destroyer.Only because I know my arm definitely can’t get that disc up to speed.
@@TheVibez_ you might be surprised sometimes i'll float it for a medium range shot because it's predictable. One of the best drivers out there tho
@@TheVibez_ You can throw it fine...but possibly get a ~160g...and star plastic...GStar is alright too, but Champion can be way overstable. It flies a lot like a TeeBird, but goes farther. Most disks have a specific thing they always want to do...the Destroyer does whatever you tell it to do.
Any thoughts on how the Thunderbird compares to all the Teebirds and Firebirds? Just picked one up and I think it’s really solid.
Zam stamped rhyno? Nice stamp or great mold
After seeing how beat up your discs are I obviously watch RUclips and buy way to many discs lol.. I need to throw my D at B's more. Fun seeing what your throwing ... Such mold consistency.
Which run of the Eagle is he throwing?
MXG !!! Woot woot Milwaukee!
Does anyone know where to find the flat and stiff “Calvin” runs of champ eagle x? I’ve ordered eagles online and even if they are the x mold they have always been gummy and domey. I guess I’m asking what the name is of the specific run that Calvin throws.
The wrinkles on his shirts show his age
Well maybe... more like living out of a suitcase or duffel bag while on the road. ;)
Live in Wichita,KS Can't wait to get to Emporia,KS to check out the disc golf scene!? Sorry I get that this isn't a DYNAMIC DISC review but o well.
Stoked!
Does anyone know if he is throwing A eagle X or an eagle L?
I’m trying to figure this same thing out so hard. No luck with google or RUclips lol
@@seanludeman4940 every time I go to huk lab I just see the eagle it never says x or L so idk but I picked up a champion one and its my new go to fairway
@@CMXCIX-AD haha ok I’m going to do the same today then! Cheers!
those ones in this video are eagle x i believe
the discs all look so similar...how much of a difference can there be in a flat plastic disc? Just genuinely curious
Big difference when they are at high rates of speed
A lot of difference
Are the orange eagles L- or X-molds?
I think there just the regular plain eagle, if not I would guess eagle x
Interesting that he doesn't bag any of his signature series destroyers....
🤙🏻. MXG ❤️
He has to have his new destroyer in his bag...
Brandon McPheeters I got paired up with him in doubles yesterday. I can confirm he still doesn’t have a Calvin Destroyer in the bag. 😆
Very cool!
3:27 Anyone sending you unsolicited texts, Vinny?
Calvin and Andrew luck share the same voice lol
Someday this Nigel Thornberry is gunna win it all
I wish Calvin would go over to mvp
how about that cloudbreaker he was throwing all over memorial? his “signature disc” lol
WHAT? No pigs??
Iron that shirt bro 👕
The dude just pulled that shirt out of the wrapping. No one pointed out that maybe he should get it ironed before they started filming. Or this is the look they wanted...?
It's a good look though.
Calvin McLuvin
He had the dirty grass colored disc for 8 years...
Am I the only one who HATES kc pro aviars? They are rock solid and don’t grab the chains at all. Maybe I just live in a colder climate.
Well... Y'all are wondering what pros throw and how... That's all very good. I do believe another video should show an amateur or new player what you should have in the bag as you're out there playing besides what kind of discs a pro has... Important items that are highly needed during the rounds ... Nobody has done it yet. A pro is a pro.. took awhile to get there but how? What kind of foods, energy sources, bad weather gear, types of backpack bags for stepping Stone players from young to adult stages.. what kind of clothes, footwear, how about helping out on the rules? No video there either... There's other ways to enjoy watching pro disc golf, but better if we knew what to bring at a tourney, how to get focused and ready... Other than that ... Pretty boring seeing a new guy talk about what he throws... Just saying.
Punctuation?
I love you
I wonder how he looks when he is super baked
Lol
Calvin is great man, love the guys entire vibe. But I couldn't help to think that this dude needs better discs. The fact that every Innova disc can be drastically different than others of the same mold, color, and run, is still shocking to me. How is that acceptable at all? I get how pros that get to choose from hundreds of discs can find something that works, but for the average player...how do replace something? How do you try to cycle discs without trying out 10 first to find the right one? I just honestly think every amateur player would benefit from not throwing Innova.
The depicted flight chart didn't reflect the description on how the disc flies for him. He says no matter how much heizer I give the disc and it will still turn. The chart shows no turn, ok. The chart has just as much consistency as their discs, none.
he doesn’t throw anything understable. hence the reason for the flight charts, which are for brand new discs out of the box. every company has variance between runs, its the nature of plastic. The stuff he is flipping is beat in (worn) and he throws at a professional arm speed. Become a student of the game before becoming a critic.
@@michaelyahner6695 You have little no idea what my knowledge and skill levels are. Innova is the most inconsistent manufacturer out of all the manufacturers. I have almost spent two thousand dollars on three molds in one plastic. I have Wraiths that have more turn than some Mambas. That's ridiculous the Wraith is supposed to have a turn of -1 the Mamba -5. Innova is so inconsistent it's funny. Having the flight chart reflect how a disc flies new instead of how it flies for him. Is going to be less useful for someone trying to replicate the specific shot. A person more than likely isn't going to have enough time to beat in a new disc. They will have to purchase a disc that flies like the beat in disc. Also you probably meant to say that he doesn't throw any new discs that are understandable. He definitely throws a few understable discs from his discretion. A disc that starts stable then becomes understandable with use. Is now an understable disc for all intents and purposes.
Buddy. We don't care what you've found. Those flight numbers that you're looking at at arbitrary, variation is inevitable, and when your biggest producer (by far) in the game, inconsistency is bound to happen. Get off your high horse and watch the video, and take your opinions elsewhere, cuz no one here asked for em
Young KC
Looks so uncomfortable saying "reliably overstable in all conditions" almost like it's a forced talking point
He kind of lost me with "Eagles are more stable than TeeBirds"...I have a champion and a star Eagle, but they aren't in my bag because they flip over so bad. But my TeeBirds are my medium distance Destroyer.
HE;s a touring pro and guaranteed throws harder than you. I'm sure he's right.
@@Vogurt Which one of these is over-stable: 7/5/0/2 or 7/4/-1/3.
The Eagle has initial under-stability plus more turn at the end...for me that is still "under-stable", especially at speed 7! I liked it as a utility disc. The TeeBirds, they fly the same as my Destroyers do, but for shorter distance, shots up to ~300'.
@@fredygump5578 the lower glide of the eagle eliminates the -1 turn value. The flight numbers are not the be all, end all for how discs fly. They are relative numbers meant to give a general idea. The Eagle is most certainly more overstable than a Teebird. As someone who has thrown both molds quite a lot, I can promise you the Eagle is more overstable, lower glide, and generally more torque resistant
@@tannernoordam3620 It is hilarious that you think you can "promise" my experience away! If we were on a course, I would demonstrate. But since we are on the internet, you will have to accept that the particular flight characteristics of the Eagle yields understable results for some players.
@@fredygump5578 yes, for some players, some times. In the general setting however, the Eagle is an overstable mold, more so than the Teebird, it's very simple
the wrinkled shirt bothers me