I bought the M1 Max with 64 GB RAM and 8 TB SSD from Micro Center Apple Refurbished. Cost about the same as a 32 GB 1 TB M3 MacBook Pro at the time. Then they dropped the price and gave me a $200 rebate. It was an amazing deal
Just got myself a 16" MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip for a insane deal for like a grand, still runs like a beast! Does everything I throw at it, coming from the 15" M3 Air, I was actually surprised to see how much better the M1 Pro chip was, still insane performance to this day.
tbf the only thing the M1 Pro has on the M3 Air is Ram (if you didn’t upgrade it) and raw graphics performance. In apps like Blender or Figma M3 smokes M1 Pro
If speaking to people who already own a M1 Max machine, I think your overall point is legit, but ... not good advice if buying now. The ebay listing shown is $1650...and dollar for $, I would MUCH rather invest $2k in the M4 Pro laptop since it provides dramatically better performance than M1 Max. You're simply getting more power per dollar. The M4 Pro chip competes / beats the M2 ULTRA !!! I have a Mac Studio M1 Max / 32 gb ram...and I'm replacing it with a spec'd up M4 Pro Mac Mini. Do I need to? Mostly, I'd say no. That doesn't make it a bad decision.
yeah i totlaly hear that, one reason to get the m1 max machine is for that 1650 you get 64 gigs of ram, which is really expensive on newer machines, only matters if your workflow needs a lot of RAM, but in that case its nice
@@PierreDybman That is factually inaccurate. The base M4 chip is more than 10% faster than M1 Max. Numbers do not lie. Whether the M4 Pro 14 Core machine's nearly 100% improved performance versus the M1 Max will benefit you ... whether it's a good ROI for YOU ...that's an entirely different question and one only you can answer. The performance improvement within 3 years represented by the M1 to M4 is historic for Apple...second only to Intel to M1....and the M4 Pro chip is the stand out.
Ok, but we’re still gonna get the M4 PRO MAX with 64GB of RAM. So in 10 years, we can also brag about how amazing our 10-year-old MacBook Pro is. If you want to replace your Mac next year then, yeah, get the M1.
You know you re a literal 🤡 if you buy M4pro or max for 10years🤡 You dont need the power of these laptops if you still use it 8years 10years. M2air will do it for you little guy
I don’t like this don’t do this advices. Usecases are different. I also work on the M1 Max since it came out and it was more than capable to do most of I trew on it. It is a beast for music production anf video editing and other demanding tasks. But for me as an Unreal Engine developer and yes, I need to develope for Mac too, GPU performance and the ability to support technologies like hardware raytracing, Nanite etc. means a lot to me. The M4 Max is a night and day difference for my usecase.
You are absolutely right its all about the usecases, if you have highly automated tasks with no interaction you can get the most out of the performance gains, at that moment you need human interaction your performance gains will drop tremendously, and of course your application has to use the silicon optimal. In that workflows you have it would be interesting to see a side by side comparison, my assumption in periods of human interaction nearly none benefit, in periods of machine work full benefit, but what does it mean for a whole working day How much more work will ve achieved when compairing both with the same set of work. Does the M4 then nearly double the work or only a tiny bit, please report the real world comparison for your specific usecase.
@ true. True. What you need in Realtime Applications is GPU performance. The M1 CPU is more than powerfull enough, but in Unreal Engine you need FPS from your GPU and of course the technologiel like Hardware Raytracing, Nanite and support of some kind of frame generation and upscaling like DLLS etc. That is where the first two Silicon generations do not support hardwarewise.
@@chidorirasenganz Correct, shader Compilation, light baking, packaging etc is cpu based and also way faster on M3 or M4 but bottleneck is mainly GPU. I like developing on my M1 Max but the M4 Max will be a big step forward.
Totally agree with this one, I’ve purchased the base M1 Max Mac Studio in 2022 and I really see absolutely no need to upgrade to the M4 Max, even if it will be twice as fast. I love my Studio and no matter what I throw at it, it just works like I expect it to and that’s the point. As you said nowadays the user often is the bottleneck not the device itself. As far as there is no heavy stuttering in my workflow I don’t rally care if the export takes 5 or 10 minutes but of course this depends on the workflow the user has.
I got an M1 Max a couple of months ago and it was fully refurbished: battery with 0 cycles, spotless body and screen, one year warranty. And it was the same price as an M3 Pro with half the Ram and SSD. Very pleased, but the new M4 Pro, which has similar or slightly better performance is tempting in the future.
Hey Sam, just wanted to give you a quick tip. If the display only gives your laptop 60W, if the laptop consumes any more than that it will take from the battery, which in the long term can significantly degrade it. I recommend you still keep the 140W MagSafe charger plugged in while using it
I have an intel 2019 MacBook Pro 16 inch i9 with 8 cores. But photo and video editing for me is slower when compared to my iMac m2 studio ultra. so I plan to upgrade the 2019 intel MacBook Pro to the M4 chip which I think will be a huge leap in performance. For me, I prefer to upgrade after using for at least 5 years rather than every year which may not really make much difference.
But there's no space black! That said. I have the 16 inch M1 Max with 64gb ram..... it's amazing.... but so big and i leave it plugged in as a desktop machine.... I'm going to get the 14 inch M4 pro so I can travel with it, plus you get ray tracing and the brighter screen
I replaced my 15" 2018 Pro with the 16" M1 Max. It's a lot heaver than the 15. The 14" is a little lighter than the 15" so if you're using it tethered get 14" 100%.
@@MrCaptainnova1 I personally use it primarily for programming and 64 GB lets me be lazy about loading very large data sets. I can tell you that MacOS will use as much RAM as it has access to. I've got very little running on the machine right now but it shows 60GB used, 6GB cached, 33GB swap. If I were using it for video, I would try to get the M1 Max for more GPU cores but wouldn't really worry too much about 32 vs 64 GB, especially for 10 bit 4k video. If you've got a lot of layers, effects, or audio tracks then RAM might make difference. I would prioritize SSD over RAM above 32 GB for sure because I think having fast access to more footage would make a bigger difference in your workflow.
@@MrCaptainnova1 One more thing, I'm scanning old film to 16 bit 6400 DPI TIFF files using SilverFast. SilverFast reports using 28 GB, Photoshop 2024 reports 10 GB, and Lightroom Classic 7 GB. The TIFF files are around 350 MB on disk, but I cannot figure out why it's using so much RAM. If there is anything you want me to check out, let me know.
@ thanks, I was thinking the same. There is just such a steep price jump from the entry max 36gb to upgrading it with 48/64gb of ram that it quickly becomes a budget concern… apple wants you to climb the famous price ladder
If you want a 32gb 14 inch m4 they are now going to be $2000. It looks like they are making pricing more reasonable. Unless prices drop significantly in the used market now may be better to buy new. Same model was 3k for the m3 model.
The M1 Max is a special machine. I have a 16" M1 Max with 32GB RAM and 32-core GPU and it's been a beast. But it's not without limitations. If you're a power-user who multitasks a lot you can make that RAM work for its dinner. I've beach-balled my machine numerous times working on extensive audio production. I'm a voice actor and most of my audio projects are simple with very few tracks, but can often involve power-hungry plugins, and when getting into full commercial production I've been left wanting a few times. I bought mine used from an Apple employee at an extreme discount so I didn't get to choose 64GB. If I had the story might be different. But for folks like me an upgrade for business purposes might make sense.
There are so many videos out right now about going to an m1 and it is a fair idea. I got a m1 max 64gb mem and 1tb NEWlast yr for 2299. It does everything for me as a graphic designer. Tried the newer one amd the difference wassome but nothing crazy. In the end my humble advice is work on your craft. Do not get caught up in the latest grestest. Rhat said if you have the means go for it. Not a class warrior. There was someone on here recently that said they mostly bought the latest because they loved the sound of opening the box. If you can by all means. Love what you do and do it well. This is a vessel to do it with. Love to all. The M series really has changed things in a good way.
I am actually buying the Mac Mini M4 Pro~ Upgrading from my MacBook Pro 2017. Definitely a massive upgrade for me hahaha. My MacBook is running on it's last legs for web browsing now lol
for general use you would be fine with any M series mac. The only reason why you would need one is for better graphics on gaming (especially for crossover games) and video encoding on cpus (AV1 or HEVC, always superior than hardware encode)....there is also rendering but the software support is lacking to where windows is better. Anything video production even its smooth on intel machines
Well, there's golden rule in Apple hardware - skip at least 3 generations before upgrade. If you have decently configured M1 Pro / M1 with 16 GB of RAM - unless you need new HDMI version, there's no reason to upgrade. And M1 Pros had I think fastest SSDs. However BUYING - well, it's about support. 6:35 - it doesn't work that way in e.g. Poland. They way Apple structures pricing, older designs cost almost as much as newest ones and crazy upsellling and taxt destroys this argument even more. Sure, I'd take M1 Pro for 70% of price M4 but for 90-95%?
Really true point is the perfomance only measurable or is it feelable thats the first question but the secon d more important one is the perfomance gain RELEVANT, that means con you turn the performance gain into the same amount of more productivity, OF COURSE you CAN'T because all the interactive parts won't benefit from the performance boost, so if you have a performance gain from about 80% if you are very lucky (or your needs fit perfectly to that gains, what usually is not the case) you will have a benefit of approximately 10%-20%. There is of course the more tactile feel if scrubbing or the millisecond a window appears faster, don't underestimate this, but for normal use the difference between a M1 and M4 should be neglectable (fortunately for all the M1 users). Even the question if memory swapping bis slowing you down noticeable is a qood question. i highly doubt, nevertheless i searched for a used MBA M1 with16 Gb and it is still a beast. O.K. not good for gaming, but to be honest even a MBP M4 Max isn't good for gaming and it is a waste for gaming.
Man you given me a solid reason too not upgrade to the m4 max and save some money thing is though im upgrading from a 2014 intel macbook and i dont plan on upgrading my laptop for 12 to 15 years im going to use every last bit of this machine so i feel like for me the m4 max still will be worth it and im stubborn af when it comes to getting used laptops ill see if b&h has any m3 maxs on sale i might shoot for that
I hope Apple will support it for at least 3-4 more years (7 in total) because it's great machine. I'm iOS dev and owner of M1Max (24c GPU) with 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD.
Alright guys, here's a thing. If you're way too rich, go get M4 line up, or at least get the M4 Pro with 20 GPU, because the GPU is like almost as fast as M1 Max 32 GPU, but if you're actually smart, or you just want to keep your money up but still get a powerful machine, get M1 Max, because why not, It's really powerful, It has more ram, It's CRAZY cheap now, and yes.
I'll wait for MPB14 M5Pro 48GB, Tandem OLED, WIFI7, 1TB SSD, that'll be a game changer. Incredible battery life, display quality, refresh rate, and AI performance.
I think most of us can agree the M1 Max is legendary. It continues to deliver the best value. I missed that train, got the 16-inch M3 Max with 64 GB last year. It's a beast and I feel the difference compared to my 8 GB M1 MacBook Air. But the M4 Pro and M4 Max looks sweet too with the Thunderbolt 5 for those looking to buy.
3:43 hey i play Dota 2! Thanks for this vid! Cos i was thinking about getting the new Mac Mini M4 or M4 Pro.. but now u mentioned that Dota 2 plays great! And we all know M4 is powerful than the M1. The new Mac Mini base model fits me well! Thanks bro!
I don't get it why people with M1 want those of us who are still on Intel or have waited to upgrade till now, to go with chips from 2020? M4s offer the best bang for money in 2024. So stop with this horrible advice
If you have a 4-year-old M1 Max computer, Apple will soon stop supporting it. Upgrade to the new M4 chip series, which has been the best update since Apple switched to Apple silicon. The original M1 chip I have is still the same top configuration price as the M4, $1999. This time, I’m switching to the faster M4Pro chip. Apple says the M4Pro is considerably faster than the M1, M2, and M3 Max chips. Anyone with an original M1 or Intel chip should upgrade.
Do you have a date when support will end? The M1 max is a beast with 32 to 64 GB of RAM. Software hasn't been able to keep up to take full advantage of M3-M4 Max hardware improvements.
@@akin242002 I concur with the other commenter. Normally it's like a 5-6 year gap. I believe the m1 max came out at the end of 2021, so some time in 2026 or 27 at the latest in my opinion. Apple is notorious for doing this just to get you to upgrade every few years with their devices. I normally sell my devices verse trading them in because you can make more money that way which normally helps offset the price of buying a new device for me.
Upgrade for what purpose? Just OS upgrade eligibility? My 2016 MBP runs fine for daily use, My M1 Max crunches everything I can throw at it. M1 has at least 2-3 years before we might see stop support, maybe longer.
Actually hardware support stops after 7 years and OS support goes for longer than that. I wouldn’t be surprised if that goes longer in the future due to how good the hardware is
After watching youtube videos I got an M1 air. The touchpad is atrocious and unreliable. The performance is choppy AF, especially in creative work like editing. Everything needs changing and modding to make it usable and efficient. I'll never go apple again.
@sam.alexander.reviews that's the problem. RUclipsrs advertised it as such. Go and watch their videos on it. It was a consensus. So, yea, I realised that word of mouth can be manufactured with payments and that apple products aren't great. It wasn't even a good price. It was $1,400 and they gave you $400 to spend at the apple shop. I got a 256gb ssd. For $400. Insane stuff. I still have it. It's a light office machine, but I could use my surface rt and get the same functionality.
I bought the M1 Max with 64 GB RAM and 8 TB SSD from Micro Center Apple Refurbished. Cost about the same as a 32 GB 1 TB M3 MacBook Pro at the time. Then they dropped the price and gave me a $200 rebate. It was an amazing deal
Just got myself a 16" MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip for a insane deal for like a grand, still runs like a beast! Does everything I throw at it, coming from the 15" M3 Air, I was actually surprised to see how much better the M1 Pro chip was, still insane performance to this day.
The Pro chips are great
how significant is the weight
@ it is pretty heavy switching from a MacBook Air but you’ll get used to it in a week
tbf the only thing the M1 Pro has on the M3 Air is Ram (if you didn’t upgrade it) and raw graphics performance. In apps like Blender or Figma M3 smokes M1 Pro
@@chidorirasenganz base m3 and base m1 pro is the same now
if base m4 is same or lower price, it is still better than m1 max
specially on cpu and battery efficiency
But in tasks with graphic M1 MAX is way better (and also x2-3 faster performs in local LLMs)
@Neophrom that's only if you 3D module or game
Anything else M4 is better
@@eduardocamavinga_7 llms are better on m1 max
If speaking to people who already own a M1 Max machine, I think your overall point is legit, but ... not good advice if buying now. The ebay listing shown is $1650...and dollar for $, I would MUCH rather invest $2k in the M4 Pro laptop since it provides dramatically better performance than M1 Max. You're simply getting more power per dollar. The M4 Pro chip competes / beats the M2 ULTRA !!! I have a Mac Studio M1 Max / 32 gb ram...and I'm replacing it with a spec'd up M4 Pro Mac Mini. Do I need to? Mostly, I'd say no. That doesn't make it a bad decision.
At this point it's not about performance, but support available down the line + e.g. HDMI standards.
yeah i totlaly hear that, one reason to get the m1 max machine is for that 1650 you get 64 gigs of ram, which is really expensive on newer machines, only matters if your workflow needs a lot of RAM, but in that case its nice
The M4 Pro does NOT deliver dramatically higher performance than the M1 Max, it’s more or less similar, possibly up to 10% more tops.
@@PierreDybman That is factually inaccurate. The base M4 chip is more than 10% faster than M1 Max. Numbers do not lie. Whether the M4 Pro 14 Core machine's nearly 100% improved performance versus the M1 Max will benefit you ... whether it's a good ROI for YOU ...that's an entirely different question and one only you can answer. The performance improvement within 3 years represented by the M1 to M4 is historic for Apple...second only to Intel to M1....and the M4 Pro chip is the stand out.
@musiccreation1198 If you mostly don't need to upgrade then its not a good advice to buy it now. Why buy a new pc if you don't need it?
Yes im going to buy a M4pro 14/20 16inch and there s nothing you can talk to make me buy anything less than M4pro
You can keep that FOR 10 years i guess
Maybe not the M1 Max. The warranty timeline is shorter. The M2 Max would be my budget choice for extreme video editing.
M2 Max is a great option!
I’ve got M1 Max, 64GB RAM & 1TB of storage. Plus 7tb external storage.
Not everyone is doing video editing. LLMs eat RAM like candy, and can use all the GPU performance they can get
Amen !!
Ok, but we’re still gonna get the M4 PRO MAX with 64GB of RAM. So in 10 years, we can also brag about how amazing our 10-year-old MacBook Pro is.
If you want to replace your Mac next year then, yeah, get the M1.
bro m1 still has YEARS before it won’t be good
Most software currently on the market has not pushed any of the M-series Macbooks to their limits yet.
You know you re a literal 🤡 if you buy M4pro or max for 10years🤡
You dont need the power of these laptops if you still use it 8years 10years. M2air will do it for you little guy
Ray Tracing, much better power envelope (10-20% better battery life), 1000nits SDR, TB5 ports, HDMI 2.1, ANE 300% faster, CPU/GPU 90% faster, 128GB Unified memory support, 546GB/s vs 400GB/s memory bandwidth, 12MP Center Stage vs 1080p Camera
There's that.
I own a fully decked out M1 Max MBP. Still really good and does everything I need. Perhaps I’ll upgrade when the M5 Max come out.
Yeah, I think the M1 Max is still a really solid machine!
I don’t like this don’t do this advices. Usecases are different. I also work on the M1 Max since it came out and it was more than capable to do most of I trew on it. It is a beast for music production anf video editing and other demanding tasks. But for me as an Unreal Engine developer and yes, I need to develope for Mac too, GPU performance and the ability to support technologies like hardware raytracing, Nanite etc. means a lot to me. The M4 Max is a night and day difference for my usecase.
You are absolutely right its all about the usecases, if you have highly automated tasks with no interaction you can get the most out of the performance gains, at that moment you need human interaction your performance gains will drop tremendously, and of course your application has to use the silicon optimal.
In that workflows you have it would be interesting to see a side by side comparison, my assumption in periods of human interaction nearly none benefit, in periods of machine work full benefit, but what does it mean for a whole working day How much more work will ve achieved when compairing both with the same set of work. Does the M4 then nearly double the work or only a tiny bit, please report the real world comparison for your specific usecase.
@ true. True. What you need in Realtime Applications is GPU performance. The M1 CPU is more than powerfull enough, but in Unreal Engine you need FPS from your GPU and of course the technologiel like Hardware Raytracing, Nanite and support of some kind of frame generation and upscaling like DLLS etc. That is where the first two Silicon generations do not support hardwarewise.
@@froschfreak1699All M series support frame generation, M2 and above supports nanite and UE can be very taxing on the CPU
@@chidorirasenganz Correct, shader Compilation, light baking, packaging etc is cpu based and also way faster on M3 or M4 but bottleneck is mainly GPU. I like developing on my M1 Max but the M4 Max will be a big step forward.
I still have the M1 Max too - not upgrading!
Still using base M1 Pro and don't even think about buying m4. Maybe m6 pro/max when they change design slightly or something.
Totally agree with this one, I’ve purchased the base M1 Max Mac Studio in 2022 and I really see absolutely no need to upgrade to the M4 Max, even if it will be twice as fast. I love my Studio and no matter what I throw at it, it just works like I expect it to and that’s the point. As you said nowadays the user often is the bottleneck not the device itself. As far as there is no heavy stuttering in my workflow I don’t rally care if the export takes 5 or 10 minutes but of course this depends on the workflow the user has.
I got an M1 Max a couple of months ago and it was fully refurbished: battery with 0 cycles, spotless body and screen, one year warranty. And it was the same price as an M3 Pro with half the Ram and SSD. Very pleased, but the new M4 Pro, which has similar or slightly better performance is tempting in the future.
after the ram update its rly not that much of a difference in price
"How much performance do you actually need?" asks 720p guy )))
"Despite me being creative professional" ))))
😂 you killed me with that one !
Hahaha lmao, it’s still 720p, so I guess RUclips is not at fault here
Why would you need anything more than 720p for this type of video?
hahah this comment killed me
i'm uploading in 4k but for some reason youtube wont let me use the full resolution
It’s not about “how I feel”, it’s about what I need.
Hey Sam, just wanted to give you a quick tip. If the display only gives your laptop 60W, if the laptop consumes any more than that it will take from the battery, which in the long term can significantly degrade it. I recommend you still keep the 140W MagSafe charger plugged in while using it
I have an intel 2019 MacBook Pro 16 inch i9 with 8 cores. But photo and video editing for me is slower when compared to my iMac m2 studio ultra. so I plan to upgrade the 2019 intel MacBook Pro to the M4 chip which I think will be a huge leap in performance. For me, I prefer to upgrade after using for at least 5 years rather than every year which may not really make much difference.
That’s exactly what I did 1 year ago
Gaming is good on the Mac now. You can use Crossover to play anything compatibility wise that the Steam Deck can except with a far better CPU and GPU
I agree, Crossover is really awesome!
But there's no space black!
That said. I have the 16 inch M1 Max with 64gb ram..... it's amazing.... but so big and i leave it plugged in as a desktop machine.... I'm going to get the 14 inch M4 pro so I can travel with it, plus you get ray tracing and the brighter screen
I replaced my 15" 2018 Pro with the 16" M1 Max. It's a lot heaver than the 15. The 14" is a little lighter than the 15" so if you're using it tethered get 14" 100%.
do you ever see your ram usage going over 36gb? Would you say you need 64gb on these mashines? for 10bit4k video editing etc…
@@MrCaptainnova1 I personally use it primarily for programming and 64 GB lets me be lazy about loading very large data sets. I can tell you that MacOS will use as much RAM as it has access to. I've got very little running on the machine right now but it shows 60GB used, 6GB cached, 33GB swap. If I were using it for video, I would try to get the M1 Max for more GPU cores but wouldn't really worry too much about 32 vs 64 GB, especially for 10 bit 4k video. If you've got a lot of layers, effects, or audio tracks then RAM might make difference. I would prioritize SSD over RAM above 32 GB for sure because I think having fast access to more footage would make a bigger difference in your workflow.
@@MrCaptainnova1 One more thing, I'm scanning old film to 16 bit 6400 DPI TIFF files using SilverFast. SilverFast reports using 28 GB, Photoshop 2024 reports 10 GB, and Lightroom Classic 7 GB. The TIFF files are around 350 MB on disk, but I cannot figure out why it's using so much RAM. If there is anything you want me to check out, let me know.
@ thanks, I was thinking the same. There is just such a steep price jump from the entry max 36gb to upgrading it with 48/64gb of ram that it quickly becomes a budget concern… apple wants you to climb the famous price ladder
If you want a 32gb 14 inch m4 they are now going to be $2000. It looks like they are making pricing more reasonable. Unless prices drop significantly in the used market now may be better to buy new.
Same model was 3k for the m3 model.
If I had any talent at all for creating, this is awesome advice. Never sleep on buying last year's hardware.
just gotta start, everyone has talent :)
but yeah i agree, last years hardware is killer
The M1 Max is a special machine. I have a 16" M1 Max with 32GB RAM and 32-core GPU and it's been a beast. But it's not without limitations. If you're a power-user who multitasks a lot you can make that RAM work for its dinner. I've beach-balled my machine numerous times working on extensive audio production. I'm a voice actor and most of my audio projects are simple with very few tracks, but can often involve power-hungry plugins, and when getting into full commercial production I've been left wanting a few times. I bought mine used from an Apple employee at an extreme discount so I didn't get to choose 64GB. If I had the story might be different. But for folks like me an upgrade for business purposes might make sense.
Totally! I think the M1 Max is a great machine.
There are so many videos out right now about going to an m1 and it is a fair idea. I got a m1 max 64gb mem and 1tb NEWlast yr for 2299. It does everything for me as a graphic designer. Tried the newer one amd the difference wassome but nothing crazy. In the end my humble advice is work on your craft. Do not get caught up in the latest grestest. Rhat said if you have the means go for it. Not a class warrior. There was someone on here recently that said they mostly bought the latest because they loved the sound of opening the box. If you can by all means. Love what you do and do it well. This is a vessel to do it with. Love to all. The M series really has changed things in a good way.
Totally agree! I think the M1 Max is still a workhorse for a lot of tasks!
I am actually buying the Mac Mini M4 Pro~ Upgrading from my MacBook Pro 2017. Definitely a massive upgrade for me hahaha. My MacBook is running on it's last legs for web browsing now lol
for general use you would be fine with any M series mac. The only reason why you would need one is for better graphics on gaming (especially for crossover games) and video encoding on cpus (AV1 or HEVC, always superior than hardware encode)....there is also rendering but the software support is lacking to where windows is better. Anything video production even its smooth on intel machines
tb 5 is proberly the biggest reason , cause all the new gizmos that will come out
Well, there's golden rule in Apple hardware - skip at least 3 generations before upgrade. If you have decently configured M1 Pro / M1 with 16 GB of RAM - unless you need new HDMI version, there's no reason to upgrade. And M1 Pros had I think fastest SSDs. However BUYING - well, it's about support. 6:35 - it doesn't work that way in e.g. Poland. They way Apple structures pricing, older designs cost almost as much as newest ones and crazy upsellling and taxt destroys this argument even more. Sure, I'd take M1 Pro for 70% of price M4 but for 90-95%?
Really true point is the perfomance only measurable or is it feelable thats the first question but the secon d more important one is the perfomance gain RELEVANT, that means con you turn the performance gain into the same amount of more productivity, OF COURSE you CAN'T because all the interactive parts won't benefit from the performance boost, so if you have a performance gain from about 80% if you are very lucky (or your needs fit perfectly to that gains, what usually is not the case) you will have a benefit of approximately 10%-20%. There is of course the more tactile feel if scrubbing or the millisecond a window appears faster, don't underestimate this, but for normal use the difference between a M1 and M4 should be neglectable (fortunately for all the M1 users). Even the question if memory swapping bis slowing you down noticeable is a qood question. i highly doubt, nevertheless i searched for a used MBA M1 with16 Gb and it is still a beast. O.K. not good for gaming, but to be honest even a MBP M4 Max isn't good for gaming and it is a waste for gaming.
Man you given me a solid reason too not upgrade to the m4 max and save some money thing is though im upgrading from a 2014 intel macbook and i dont plan on upgrading my laptop for 12 to 15 years im going to use every last bit of this machine so i feel like for me the m4 max still will be worth it and im stubborn af when it comes to getting used laptops ill see if b&h has any m3 maxs on sale i might shoot for that
Going to get new macbook pro m4 pro, love my macboo air m1 8gb and has been good and still is its time to upgrade :D
what app do you use to check fans? @ 9:18 ?
TG Pro :)
I hope Apple will support it for at least 3-4 more years (7 in total) because it's great machine.
I'm iOS dev and owner of M1Max (24c GPU) with 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD.
i get your point but ur rendering vids in 720p my guy
hahah this comment killed me
i'm uploading in 4k but for some reason youtube wont let me use the full resolution
@@sam.alexander.reviewswell this comment def killed you. Yikes no one else doesn’t know how to upload
Alright guys, here's a thing. If you're way too rich, go get M4 line up, or at least get the M4 Pro with 20 GPU, because the GPU is like almost as fast as M1 Max 32 GPU, but if you're actually smart, or you just want to keep your money up but still get a powerful machine, get M1 Max, because why not, It's really powerful, It has more ram, It's CRAZY cheap now, and yes.
I'll wait for MPB14 M5Pro 48GB, Tandem OLED, WIFI7, 1TB SSD, that'll be a game changer. Incredible battery life, display quality, refresh rate, and AI performance.
I think most of us can agree the M1 Max is legendary. It continues to deliver the best value. I missed that train, got the 16-inch M3 Max with 64 GB last year. It's a beast and I feel the difference compared to my 8 GB M1 MacBook Air. But the M4 Pro and M4 Max looks sweet too with the Thunderbolt 5 for those looking to buy.
Apple: "Ok, next software update will add satators to all non M4 devices".
Thx this is my view too, i guess this run for new processor doesn’t mean anything. You must work with what you have.
3:43 hey i play Dota 2! Thanks for this vid!
Cos i was thinking about getting the new Mac Mini M4 or M4 Pro.. but now u mentioned that Dota 2 plays great! And we all know M4 is powerful than the M1.
The new Mac Mini base model fits me well! Thanks bro!
Well said, plus M1 Max in 2024 is still way much better than most new intel & AMD laptops hands down
I don't get it why people with M1 want those of us who are still on Intel or have waited to upgrade till now, to go with chips from 2020? M4s offer the best bang for money in 2024. So stop with this horrible advice
So that they can sell you their old machine and upgrade theirs
I agree
How do you make that text? What program?
Affinity
Your video should be titled “Watch this before you upgrade or buy the new M4 MacBook Pro” because do not sounds kind of like scam
You're right, it might sound a little clickbaity. I wanted to be more straightforward though. 😂 i'll workshop it, thanks!
Its all fun and games until you open unreal engine 5
If you have a 4-year-old M1 Max computer, Apple will soon stop supporting it. Upgrade to the new M4 chip series, which has been the best update since Apple switched to Apple silicon. The original M1 chip I have is still the same top configuration price as the M4, $1999. This time, I’m switching to the faster M4Pro chip. Apple says the M4Pro is considerably faster than the M1, M2, and M3 Max chips. Anyone with an original M1 or Intel chip should upgrade.
Do you have a date when support will end? The M1 max is a beast with 32 to 64 GB of RAM. Software hasn't been able to keep up to take full advantage of M3-M4 Max hardware improvements.
@@akin242002 theres no exact date but products are considered vintage when Apple stopped distributing them for sale more than 5 years.
@@akin242002 I concur with the other commenter. Normally it's like a 5-6 year gap. I believe the m1 max came out at the end of 2021, so some time in 2026 or 27 at the latest in my opinion. Apple is notorious for doing this just to get you to upgrade every few years with their devices. I normally sell my devices verse trading them in because you can make more money that way which normally helps offset the price of buying a new device for me.
Upgrade for what purpose? Just OS upgrade eligibility? My 2016 MBP runs fine for daily use, My M1 Max crunches everything I can throw at it. M1 has at least 2-3 years before we might see stop support, maybe longer.
Actually hardware support stops after 7 years and OS support goes for longer than that. I wouldn’t be surprised if that goes longer in the future due to how good the hardware is
sorry cant watch a 720p video in 2024
sorry, idk why, i uploaded in 4k but youtube downgraded it
After watching youtube videos I got an M1 air. The touchpad is atrocious and unreliable. The performance is choppy AF, especially in creative work like editing. Everything needs changing and modding to make it usable and efficient. I'll never go apple again.
Yeah, the base model M1 Air isn't ideal for creative work, it's really more of a basic machine.
@sam.alexander.reviews that's the problem. RUclipsrs advertised it as such. Go and watch their videos on it. It was a consensus. So, yea, I realised that word of mouth can be manufactured with payments and that apple products aren't great. It wasn't even a good price.
It was $1,400 and they gave you $400 to spend at the apple shop. I got a 256gb ssd. For $400. Insane stuff.
I still have it. It's a light office machine, but I could use my surface rt and get the same functionality.
Factorioooooooo!!! So good
Yeah buy the M2 MacBook Pros instead of