LYING Is IMPOSSIBLE In The Right Of Allah | Dr Hamza el Bakri
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Dr Hamza el Bakri addresses this controversial question on the possibility of Allah lying. The translation was provided by @TheKaafiyahChannel.
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سبحان الله وبحمده سبحان الله العظيم.
كل من يعتقد أن الكذب ممكن في كلام الله تعالى يعتقد أن صفات الله ممكنة الزوال.
ما قدروا الله حق قدره.
كيف نوفق بين قوله تعالى
(وَهُوَ ٱلۡقَاهِرُ فَوۡقَ عِبَادِهِۦۖ وَیُرۡسِلُ عَلَیۡكُمۡ حَفَظَةً حَتَّىٰۤ إِذَا جَاۤءَ أَحَدَكُمُ ٱلۡمَوۡتُ تَوَفَّتۡهُ رُسُلُنَا وَهُمۡ لَا یُفَرِّطُونَ)
[Surah Al-An'am 61]
وبين حديث ان موسى ضرب ملك الموت وفقا عينه عندما قال له اجب ربك فرجع الى الله تعالى يشكوه؟؟
يطلب الأنبياء إذنًا ، على عكس عامة الناس ، ليس لدينا ملاك جبريل آخر يخبرنا بذلك
أجله لم يكن حان بعد في قدر الله
His explanation of what Kalaam Nafsi is (which is using a Human's example) is doing similitude with Allah, just like he any other Kalaami would attribute the same thing to Kalaam Lafdhi, so why the inconsistency?
أي كتاب للإمام الغزالي يقرأ منه الشيخ؟
الاقتصاد في الاعتقاد للغزالي
Let me try to make it more coherent.
Can Allah ﷻ tell a lie?
* Meaning of lie: a statement that is opposite of reality / what has occurred or happened / truth.
* If Allah ﷻ tells a lie, He speaks of a statement (Kalam Nafsi) that is inconsistent/contradictory with His Knowledge
* Inconsistency/Contradiction is a flaw and notably a flaw of His creation without looking at morality. How is this possible when Sifat Salbiah have been established logically upon Him?
* In particular, if He lies, He will be similar to any human being who lies, and hence it will render Him the possibility to be created, not a Creator. How is this possible when we have established Mukhalafatuhu lil Hawadith upon Him?
* The logical establishment of disability to tell a lie is an attribute of perfection, as bring Him down from a state of perfection to a single flaw is a flaw itself.
* His Kalam Lafdzi is a mere translation of His Kalam Nafsi through His own action of translation by creating a voice or writing process. Since He speaks the truth, His Kalam Lafdzi has to be the truth.
We the Asha'irah state that Kalam Nafsi is His Direct Speech from His Essence, whereas Kalam Lafdzi is the translation of part of His Direct Speech, be it with voice or written.
Kalam Nafsi should NOT be translated as Allah's Inner Speech because that is drawing an equivalent comparison to human being. His Direct Speech is without any word, letter or voice as it is His Divine Essence's Attributes (in contra with speech being a human physical attribute).
On the other hand, with respect to human, Kalam Nafsi is our inner speech and Kalam Lafdzi is our vocal / written speech.
@@mmuhd
Qadi Abdul Jabbar(935-1025) stated in his Mughni:
In the Qur'ân God says that He did some things in the
past using a verb in the past tense; if He were per se and, consequently, in all eternity speaking. He would be lying in this kind of sentences since the fact described did not happen yet and He nevertheless informed that it did happen. Here is an example:
So We seized each ˹people˺ for their sin: against some of them We sent a storm of stones, some were overtaken by a ˹mighty˺ blast, some We caused the earth to swallow, and some We drowned. Allah would not have wronged them, but it was they who wronged themselves.(S29:40)
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Allah also has knowledge of what He will send as revelation....so, His Ilm, Kalam Nafsi & Kalam Lafdhi exist parallely ( i.e. one doesn't follow the other)....this is my perception for now...is there any problem with this? Allah knows best
Makes sense to me.
I didn't understand, pls explain me
I didn't understand
حجة ضعيفة جدًا، لأنه لو سلمنا عدم إمكانية الكذب في الكلام النفسي وهي ضعيفة أيضًا لأنك خلطت بين العلم بما تريد قوله والكلام النفسي، فالكلام اللفظي عندك مخلوق لله فقولك أنه لابد أن يكون دلالة على النفسي قيل وما الدليل على هذا الحصر ولماذا لا يقدر أن يخلق كلاما لا يعبر عن كلامه النفسي كما خلق كلامنا اللفظي وفيه كذب بالإجماع ؟!
شفاك الله، شاهد قناة الشيخ الدكتور عبدالقادر الحسين وشرحه للعقائد وستجد ضالتك .
سئل محمد بن صالح الْعُثَيْمِين في لقاء الباب المفتوح (١٠٣/١٩): هل يجوز الحلف بالقرآن؟ فقال: الحلف بالقرآن تريد بذلك القرآن الذي نزل على محمد ﷺ جائز؛ لأنه من كلام الله، وكلام الله تعالى صفة من صفاته وجميع صفات الله يجوز الحلف بها، أما إذا كنت تريد بالقرآن المصحف الذي هو الورق والحروف المكتوبة فهذا لا يجوز؛ لأن هذا مخلوق، والحلف بالمخلوق شرك كما قال النّبيُّ ﷺ: ((من حلف بغير الله فقد كفر أو أشرك)) ثم نقول أيضًا: ما الذي حثك على أن تحلف بالقرآن؟ ما هناك قسم إلا بالقرآن؟ احلف بالله، قال النّبيُّ ﷺ: ((من كان حالفًا فليحلف بالله أو ليصمت)). ﺍﻫـ
الكذب مُحتمل لو كان الكلام فعله ولكن كلام الله صفته لا فعله عندنا وصفاته كلها قديمة أزليّة، إذًا فالكذب محال من هذه الناحية.
All in all this is confused speech at its best!
The summary:
1.lying cannot occur in kalaam nafsi
2.lying can only occur in kalaam lafzi.
So essentially what Allah knows cannot be a lie, but what Allah reveals can be a lie!! Exactly what the philosophers wanted!!
Yeah, that's what I thought! He didn't change anything except proving that it is impossible.
@@AbuWilly. If its impossible then there is no worries about Allah SWT not revealing to us the truth.
He said that Allah SWT's speech is kalam nafsi.
Qadi Abdul Jabbar(935-1025) stated in his Mughni:
In the Qur'ân God says that He did some things in the
past using a verb in the past tense; if He were per se and, consequently, in all eternity speaking. He would be lying in this kind of sentences since the fact described did not happen yet and He nevertheless informed that it did happen. Here is an example:
So We seized each ˹people˺ for their sin: against some of them We sent a storm of stones, some were overtaken by a ˹mighty˺ blast, some We caused the earth to swallow, and some We drowned. Allah would not have wronged them, but it was they who wronged themselves.(S29:40)
@@princemathew.1149
I didn't understand