The fact that it holds its image for minutes gives me ideas on how to conserve energy. Pulsing it every few minutes instead of constantly having power.
Yep, I change the content all the time because I want to see different digits, but if the content is the same, you only need to update it every two minutes.
@@itsodiumchloride9516yep, never think or have ideas of your own. If someone else has had the idea before you deserve to be laughed at and shunned. Hopefully you wont tell me off for using the idea of sarcasm like others before me.
This customisability is reminding me of how exciting LCD displays were when they were really taking off in the 80's. This new printable direction will unlock so many exciting new applications.
I agree, because I´m fascinated with LCDs still to this day. This is a next step and hopefully it will get cheaper with time and more accessible to wide audience.
Glad you were able to make Posy's 15 segment design! Definitely my favorite. It's so ornamental and Gothic-esque (especially letters D and I) while still being, importantly, very legible for both numbers and letters.
Seems like a 3.3V board would work, just set the common line to 1.65V (voltage divider between +3.3V and GND). Then you can have the pin output 3.3V (1.65V difference), 0V (-1.65V difference), or float for no change. Unless even 1.65V is too much (use a less-stiff divider, e.g. higher value resistors, to reduce current?). BTW I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought Posy. Very cool to actualize these.
@@kpanic23 And the outputs since they would also be at 3.3V. And some load resistors to ensure the diode drop is the full 0.3V (it's higher with low current).
A voltage divider isn’t a stable source, it’ll change the moment you draw power from it, which is why its not recommended for any use besides providing a refrence. It also limits the current quite a bit. Its probably fine for this as these displays don’t seem to draw a lot of power, but its important to keep in mind
I love Posy's videos, so this was a great one to see on your channel! You should do a dedicated video on how you used Excel to know which segments you needed; that was pretty cool but there was no detail!
Fascinating to see how many other people want to have a custom wall-clock display, with the ability to control it with a micro-controller. I'm seeing a great use case for having a Home-Assistant (or other platforms) wall-display with time and other icons, where they can be set on/off depending on what's needed. Excited to see what consumer-ready products would be made available for a more accessible price, to be used in a similar scope like this.
Yes, custom wall clock display is something I would like to explore little bit more. I need to first find out what is the maximum size for such display, since it would make sense to make it as big as possible..
@@upir_upir I would love to have a nice large format wall clock display. My current solution is a red LED matrix panel that shows the time, 3-letter day name and date. It's functional but not elegant. Having big, bold and legible e-ink characters in something that looks nice on the wall would be wonderful and I would gladly go in on a group-buy if you were considering such a thing.
This is such a cool crossover. I love posy and just coincidentally found you. I recently started working in Illustrator and the methods you used are honestly genious. I'm just now working on a project for my graphics class an in my logo I used a 7 segment font to create my text. This is such an inspiration to make my own one!
Thank you for your nice words, I appreciate it! And of course, good luck learning Illustrator, the learning curve is kind of steep, but it´s definitely worth the time. And as for my accent.. yep, something I need to work on.
First off this video is really cool and ever since I saw posy’s video I’ve wanted to see a real display using some of the designs shown there. Second, that solution for applying positive or negative voltage to the pins was such a cool and clean way to do it!
I love how this also unintentionally ends up being a pretty good Illustrator tutorial for basic shape design. The unscaled stroke as a consistent margin marker is a genius design hack.
Yep, there are usually at least a few different ways how to do the same thing in Illustrator, which is great, because you can use the method that works for you the best.
Very cool to see the intersection of design and engineering - I'm also interested in both, and I feel like a lot of the times I see creators leaning toward one or the other.
Thank you, it´s great to meet someone with the same interest, because as you have noted - it seems to be quite rate. Are you currently working on something?
This is something that I've wanted to experiment with for making a digital odometer for my old motorcycle. Really cool stuff, thank you for showing the process
@@upir_upir yup! I planned on adding a backlight LED array that was always on, maybe even give it dimmability with a photodiode so it knows when to be bright and when not to be. I'm still workshopping the concept!
@@GreatestCupcake This particular display cannot be used with backlight, only with frontlight, but standard LCD display should do the trick, plus they are quite cheap..
Love the secret design joke you had there 😎 brillant way to sneak such a design yet have the rest of the world only wonder what could it possibly mean!
@@upir_upir well one of the displays you had ordered and shown in the video had a quite specific symbol in it with a meaning which I find pretty funny, considering its a country-specific type of comedy :)
You could make a kitchen timer than can be stuck to the fromt of a cabinet, where the display connector leads to the gap at the bottom. With the battery and chip on the backside. Add a small beeper and you got yourself a minimalist timer!
It's kind of cool to see those designs for real. Funny how I got here through watching Posy and then some own arduino project, but I guess it's only a natural fit. Also, never thought I'd hear someone speak so well from Czechia :D the accent prevails, although minimally.
Great to know how you got here, I´m sure most of the viewers have watched Posy´s video already. And as for my accent.. yep, that´s something I need to work on.
Great displays! And for driving with 5V or 3.3V compatible boards, you only need a couple of resistors - 2 for each segment that form a voltage divider... To create a positive/negative signal, you can use an H-bridge, which is normally used to control DC motors in two directions. It seems to me that with the advent of digital processors we have forgotten the much simpler and cheaper analogue solutions :-).
An H-bridge consists of 4 transistors, and also requires a control signal that is supplied by... Software. Transistors are relatively expensive, especially considering you need 56 of them to control two 7 segment displays. That many transistors also require a lot of space, even when you use dedicated H-bridge ICs. A software only solution definitely makes more sense in this case.
I was thinking about the same - recreating some game and watch, but those have surprisingly a lot of segments, and the minimal spacing would not make it look good for small sizes.. Maybe next time!
@@upir_upir I think that was a joke(who would ever complain about such a great video). What he meant was that it would be funny if the video starts normally, but then instead of saying that your answer was yes you said that your answer was no, then the video ends.
A 3.3V compatible driver scheme could use a voltage divider (2 resistors of same value - enough for the common electrode), while the other 7 to 15 pins would be 0 or 3.3V, thus creating a +- 1.65V drive capability
Is the minimum clearance between segments something to do with current leakage? I wonder if it could be overcome by printing an insulator into the gap rather than leaving a space
I don´t think so. It´s more about having some breathing room for printing individual layers to align them properly, the very similar restrictions would be for "standard" silkscreen printing as well. I´m almost thinking that they want to be on the safe side and the actual limit is much smaller than that.
Great display tech. Love the fonts. Do you know if the displays are transparent/translucent, so can be have backlighting? Curious as the coloured versions (previous video) have lower contrast, but might have more contrast if backlit. This could make for some interesting applications.
Making these displays into capacitive touchscreens would also be nice. This exists for flexible oleda for example. Should make for the light switch of the future! Or a really thin kitchen timer!
All the source files are here: github.com/upiir/posy_design_into_real_display
cool!
So cool to see it on something real! Wall clock when? 😁 You are way smarter than me with al those clever tricks by the way...
Beauty of Electrical Engineers
Posy commented in under 6hours. Crazy
A wall clock would be amazing, the question is if Ynvisible can make a bigger display.
Thank you, Posy! But this video would not be possible without yours in the first place :)
Welcome posy😍
The fact that it holds its image for minutes gives me ideas on how to conserve energy. Pulsing it every few minutes instead of constantly having power.
Yep, I change the content all the time because I want to see different digits, but if the content is the same, you only need to update it every two minutes.
@@upir_upir Must be very efficient!
Thats exactly how its intended to be used, did you come up with it all on your own? 😂😂😂
@@itsodiumchloride9516yep, never think or have ideas of your own. If someone else has had the idea before you deserve to be laughed at and shunned.
Hopefully you wont tell me off for using the idea of sarcasm like others before me.
@@itsodiumchloride9516you gonna be okay buddy?
This customisability is reminding me of how exciting LCD displays were when they were really taking off in the 80's. This new printable direction will unlock so many exciting new applications.
I agree, because I´m fascinated with LCDs still to this day. This is a next step and hopefully it will get cheaper with time and more accessible to wide audience.
Can't wait for Posy to see this
lasy posy react when
We will see... :)
He did
Can't wait until we can see these with super macro.
@@mf.projectsno
I didn't know such a company existed that created custom displays. I need to start writing down ideas for what I want to do.
You can buy some pre-made sets for evaluation to get you started with some cool ideas.
3500 euro per prototype though...
Glad you were able to make Posy's 15 segment design! Definitely my favorite. It's so ornamental and Gothic-esque (especially letters D and I) while still being, importantly, very legible for both numbers and letters.
I agree, it´s very non-standard and it looks nice.
Seems like a 3.3V board would work, just set the common line to 1.65V (voltage divider between +3.3V and GND). Then you can have the pin output 3.3V (1.65V difference), 0V (-1.65V difference), or float for no change. Unless even 1.65V is too much (use a less-stiff divider, e.g. higher value resistors, to reduce current?).
BTW I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought Posy. Very cool to actualize these.
Correct, with the 3.3V board, your solution makes perfect sense. Thank you for your comment!
Add a Schottky diode between 3.3V and the voltage divider to drop the voltage to 3V ;)
@@kpanic23 And the outputs since they would also be at 3.3V. And some load resistors to ensure the diode drop is the full 0.3V (it's higher with low current).
A voltage divider isn’t a stable source, it’ll change the moment you draw power from it, which is why its not recommended for any use besides providing a refrence. It also limits the current quite a bit.
Its probably fine for this as these displays don’t seem to draw a lot of power, but its important to keep in mind
@@Joshinken These displays use under a microamp per segment segment (0.1µA/cm² if am reading correctly).
Amazing to see Posy’s projects in action. Would love to see another episode with backlit or some practical implementation
Thank you. I don´t think backlit is an option, but practical implementation is something I would like to try..
Posy's channel is an hidden jem of youtube. His content is top tier.
I agree that his content is great, but with his number of views and subscribers, it´s questionable how much "hidden" the channel is...
@@upir_upir It was much more hidden before the segmented displays video went viral
Agreed!
I love Posy's videos, so this was a great one to see on your channel! You should do a dedicated video on how you used Excel to know which segments you needed; that was pretty cool but there was no detail!
Thank you, I´m glad you enjoyed it. Yes, if there is enough interest, I would like to record a proper full-length video.
This is what I needed after watching all those cool display designs. Love it!
Perfect, thank you for your comment!
Fascinating to see how many other people want to have a custom wall-clock display, with the ability to control it with a micro-controller.
I'm seeing a great use case for having a Home-Assistant (or other platforms) wall-display with time and other icons, where they can be set on/off depending on what's needed.
Excited to see what consumer-ready products would be made available for a more accessible price, to be used in a similar scope like this.
Yes, custom wall clock display is something I would like to explore little bit more. I need to first find out what is the maximum size for such display, since it would make sense to make it as big as possible..
@@upir_upir I would love to have a nice large format wall clock display. My current solution is a red LED matrix panel that shows the time, 3-letter day name and date. It's functional but not elegant. Having big, bold and legible e-ink characters in something that looks nice on the wall would be wonderful and I would gladly go in on a group-buy if you were considering such a thing.
I loved Posy‘s video and that was totally what they deserved! Great work!
Thank you!
Wow, that's really exciting! I look forward to learning more about Ynvisible and their products.
Thank you!
This is such an amazing video! I loved posys design and seeing these come to life are beautiful!
Thank you so much!
Perfection made out of perfection is a treat to my OCD, especially knowing this originated from Posy
Yep, this would not be possible without posy´s video. I owe him a beer or two.
@@upir_upir I bet a demo sample that just runs through some numbers which he can hold in his own hands would make him happy
Loved the Excel flex, the displays looks gorgeous. Awesome
Thank you!
Very cool video, also very nice of you to offer the displays to others. Subscribed!
Thank you for your nice words, and for your sub!
These displays look beautiful! Really cool.
Thank you!
This is such a cool crossover. I love posy and just coincidentally found you. I recently started working in Illustrator and the methods you used are honestly genious. I'm just now working on a project for my graphics class an in my logo I used a 7 segment font to create my text. This is such an inspiration to make my own one!
I'm Czech and just saw that you're Czech too! I was thinking why your accent sounded so familiar...
Thank you for your nice words, I appreciate it! And of course, good luck learning Illustrator, the learning curve is kind of steep, but it´s definitely worth the time. And as for my accent.. yep, something I need to work on.
First off this video is really cool and ever since I saw posy’s video I’ve wanted to see a real display using some of the designs shown there. Second, that solution for applying positive or negative voltage to the pins was such a cool and clean way to do it!
Thank you, I´m glad you like it!
This video is amazing, i never expected something like this was possible.
Greetings from Chile
Thank you for your nice comment!
WOW great work on that! I will be looking at this display type!
Thank you, I´m glad you like it!
this about to go viral
I´m already happy with the views it has :)
I love how this also unintentionally ends up being a pretty good Illustrator tutorial for basic shape design. The unscaled stroke as a consistent margin marker is a genius design hack.
I´m glad it was useful! Thank you for your comment.
Incredible workflow and presentation clarity, thank you for sharing!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for your nice comment.
Master of displays is back :D
I have never left :)
Wow, this is amazing, it opens up so many cool ideas...
Cool, that´s great to hear!
This is amazing! Thanks for such a great video.
Thank you for your comment, I´m glad you like it!
I love Your Videos Man!
Thank you!
Great content and I really like how easy tools can help you build such great displays.
Keep up the good work and I hope to see you around.
Thank you very much!
This is literally a dream come true.
It´s great meeting someone with the same dreams! :)
they look cool, thanks for showing them
You are welcome!
4:21 instead of using the shape builder tool, you can use the "merge" pathfinder and magic wand away all the unwanted paths at once
Yep, there are usually at least a few different ways how to do the same thing in Illustrator, which is great, because you can use the method that works for you the best.
Very cool to see the intersection of design and engineering - I'm also interested in both, and I feel like a lot of the times I see creators leaning toward one or the other.
Thank you, it´s great to meet someone with the same interest, because as you have noted - it seems to be quite rate. Are you currently working on something?
Brilliant work!
Thank you!
After trend on reinventing these and collect . Now it is fun watching them
Thank you, I´m glad you enjoyed the video!
This is something that I've wanted to experiment with for making a digital odometer for my old motorcycle. Really cool stuff, thank you for showing the process
Cool, I´m glad the video was useful. For a motorcycle, probably a display that is shining (i.e. has a backlight) would be more useful?
@@upir_upir yup! I planned on adding a backlight LED array that was always on, maybe even give it dimmability with a photodiode so it knows when to be bright and when not to be. I'm still workshopping the concept!
@@GreatestCupcake This particular display cannot be used with backlight, only with frontlight, but standard LCD display should do the trick, plus they are quite cheap..
Fantastic! Nice work.
Thank you, I´m glad you like it!
This is so cool!!!
Thank you!
Love the secret design joke you had there 😎 brillant way to sneak such a design yet have the rest of the world only wonder what could it possibly mean!
That joke is soo secret that I don´t even know about it :)
@@upir_upir well one of the displays you had ordered and shown in the video had a quite specific symbol in it with a meaning which I find pretty funny, considering its a country-specific type of comedy :)
Can't wait for the posy video!
Also, i have no project in mind, but now i want to come up with one.
It´s always great when something inspires you to create a project!
These are beautiful
Thank you, I´m glad you like it!
You could make a kitchen timer than can be stuck to the fromt of a cabinet, where the display connector leads to the gap at the bottom. With the battery and chip on the backside. Add a small beeper and you got yourself a minimalist timer!
That´s an interesting idea!
FUCK YEAH I LOVE THAT VIDEO TOO AND TO SEE IT IRL IS PEAK
Thanks!
Awesome!❤ I really like the original StarTrek feel of "seamless"
It does look like that type face doesn’t it.
Now imagine a segmented display based on the movie/DS9/Voyager typeface
That display is also my favourite, despite the number 2 looking kind of strange.
That display is also my favourite, despite the number 2 looking kind of strange.
fantastic!
Thank you, I´m glad you like it!
To jméno a přízvuk tě prozrazují. Krásná práce!
Díky, a na přízvuku zapracuji..
nice video. i like how you showed your process in illustrator as well
Thank you, finally someone appreciated the Illustrator work!
This is incredible
Thank you, I´m glad you think that!
Wow, cool!
Thank you!
It's kind of cool to see those designs for real. Funny how I got here through watching Posy and then some own arduino project, but I guess it's only a natural fit. Also, never thought I'd hear someone speak so well from Czechia :D the accent prevails, although minimally.
Great to know how you got here, I´m sure most of the viewers have watched Posy´s video already. And as for my accent.. yep, that´s something I need to work on.
@@upir_upir Me too man, me too. Although I don't think most people would be able to pin the accent and it's perfectly fine.
I love niche hobbies being optimized and expanded upon
That´s great! Although, with displays being all around us, it´s questionable if it is still a niche hobby...
You definitely earned that coffee! 😃
Thanks a lot for your support, I really appreciate it!
Posy is an awesome person! I their mouse pointer icons on all my devices.
That´s great to hear!
how cute! loved the video :)
Thank you!
Ain't no way they turning it into real ones! :0
Thankfully they did 🙂
very interesting video,
and amazing displays.
Thank you!
Very interesting!
Glad you think so!
cant believe i saw one of the greatest crossovers ever
Good to hear! Thank you for your comment.
I love posy! The displays look good, too...
Thank you!
I see Posy I Upvoty
Hehe. It was a good choice to recreate those designs...
From the one and only Posy
Yep!
Great video 👍
Thank you!
Mega dobry! Posyho video s displejema bylo my oblibeny a videt to takhle nazivo je paradni! Dobra prace
Díky díky!
yes i loved the orig video too this is next level!!
soo.. what is the next level after this?
Man that shit will look amazing in some cosplays
That´s an interesting idea. Do you actually know about some cosplays that do use displays?
Cool!
Thank you, I´m glad you like it!
Props to that company!
Yep!
Nice!
Thank you!
OMG, i love the design ♥
Keep making more videos about Screens ☺, thanks
Thank you, I´m glad you like it!
This is future display for sure !
Which means we are already living in the future :)
using two of the 7-segment numbers and a 1-segment minus sign would make for a functional thermometer display :)
I have another video with an eink display that is designed specifically for this.
Great displays! And for driving with 5V or 3.3V compatible boards, you only need a couple of resistors - 2 for each segment that form a voltage divider... To create a positive/negative signal, you can use an H-bridge, which is normally used to control DC motors in two directions. It seems to me that with the advent of digital processors we have forgotten the much simpler and cheaper analogue solutions :-).
Sure, but a couple of resistors is still 32 resistors..
An H-bridge consists of 4 transistors, and also requires a control signal that is supplied by... Software. Transistors are relatively expensive, especially considering you need 56 of them to control two 7 segment displays. That many transistors also require a lot of space, even when you use dedicated H-bridge ICs. A software only solution definitely makes more sense in this case.
Very cool! I'd love to recreate something like the old game and watch displays using this display tech!
I was thinking about the same - recreating some game and watch, but those have surprisingly a lot of segments, and the minimal spacing would not make it look good for small sizes.. Maybe next time!
0:33 "You probably already know my answer to this question"
"No."
_video ends_
It probably means this video is not for you, that´s OK, sometimes the RUclips algorithm is not that smart.
😂
@@upir_upir I think that was a joke(who would ever complain about such a great video).
What he meant was that it would be funny if the video starts normally, but then instead of saying that your answer was yes you said that your answer was no, then the video ends.
Amazing. I hope ynvisible starts offering a custom display service to everyone, I would like to use this in the future.
I agree, it would be great, but we will see..
The conditional formatting section in excel was genius; I’ve gotta learn how to do that 😊
Glad it was helpful! You can download the Excel file on GitHub and take a closer look how it was done.
came for cool segmented displays, stayed for illustrator hot tips
That´s great to hear, thank you!
fire
Thank you!
The cyberpunk projects about to get crazy
Any particular usecase for such displays in cyberpunk?
@@upir_upir I've seen one guy make a cyberpunk style jacket with digital interfaces on it.
Excelente! 👍🏻
Thank you!
Yo that exel idea is gonna be a life saver! 😂 I’m trying to set up some animations on a 64x32 led display
Thank you, but for those displays, it´s probably better to use some graphics editor like Photopea instead of Excel...
Illustrator in light mode, what have I seen 😱
And I use Photoshop in light mode as well!! :)
amazing damn bravo
Thank you!
Thank YOU@@upir_upir !
And posy too since it's gratefulness time 😁
Collab when?
...lol jk no pressure ahah sorry
cool video!
Thank you!
Great job replying to each comment. We all appreciate it!
You are welcome, thank you for watching my videos!
holy shit this is so cool
Thank you!
i would buy a clock made with these
I have seen some clock example on their youtube channel, but I don´t believe they sell it as a kit - at least not yet.
Lovely Technology
I agree, it looks cool!
Man i would looove to have one 😱
I´m working with the ynvisible company to produce some more.. hopefully soon!
love you brother❤
:)
A 3.3V compatible driver scheme could use a voltage divider (2 resistors of same value - enough for the common electrode), while the other 7 to 15 pins would be 0 or 3.3V, thus creating a +- 1.65V drive capability
Yep, that´s a good idea and I´m sure that will work just fine for 3.3V boards. I might try that.
Is the minimum clearance between segments something to do with current leakage? I wonder if it could be overcome by printing an insulator into the gap rather than leaving a space
I don´t think so. It´s more about having some breathing room for printing individual layers to align them properly, the very similar restrictions would be for "standard" silkscreen printing as well. I´m almost thinking that they want to be on the safe side and the actual limit is much smaller than that.
@@upir_upirsend them a test card which has a bunch of test data on it
Great display tech. Love the fonts.
Do you know if the displays are transparent/translucent, so can be have backlighting? Curious as the coloured versions (previous video) have lower contrast, but might have more contrast if backlit. This could make for some interesting applications.
I don´t think you can use backlight, it would have to be a front light, just like with eink paper display.
Making these displays into capacitive touchscreens would also be nice. This exists for flexible oleda for example. Should make for the light switch of the future!
Or a really thin kitchen timer!
Yes, placing a touchscreen over this display might be and interesting option. I might try that for a future video, thank you for the idea!
Cool
Thank you!
me, knowing a fair bit about illustrator: this guy knows his illustrator
casually makes excel macros
Actually, I don´t make Excel macros, I just copy and paste them from the internet :)
Agreed - I know only a little Illustrator and my jaw was on the floor with this.
"The sheer angle of zig-zaggery" amazing line! haha
:)