I would agree if Bill wasn't Fiction+ If anything they just end up being dead even. I'm probably low balling, but considering that doing so save SCP from being broken op garbage is better.
I've heard of a theory that after bill's death he ascended to our own dimension so if this theory is correct then bill is basically a canonically real being fighting a canonically fictional being
Scp 3812 negs Bill Cipher, SCP 3812 is a narrative entity and he keep growing even more powerful, reaching more boundless narrative layers making Scp 3812 literally omnipotent -_-
@@breadtrap5715 Of course it is stated that Bill become stronger every seconds but for SCP 3812 it’s worse because SCP 3812 passes from boundless layers to boundless layers.
Narratives doesn't work -_- Also Bill Cipher is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient and have more scale than 3812 X: B-Bu Me: SHUT UP, SCP 3812 is overrated.
@@Zormd Pretty sure he means the amount of abilities,not exactly the power of said abilities and Bill has alot more powers compared to Sam. But I could be wrong.
@@Zormd No I am saying Bill has more abilities but they are weaker than Sam's. It's just that abilities usually just mean, who has more abilities,not how strong the ability actually is. Sam has around 8-11 or something broken abilities while Bill has around like 50 abilities but they are weaker and can't affect Sam.
Bill literally destroyed his entire galaxy with ease Edit: he can also stop time, enter peoples minds, teleport, become invisible etc Edit 2: Its appears i have started a war in the comments
@@OzkiiBoyno, 3812 passively trancends narratives, Bill has never shown any ability to even interact with the narrative, he get's negg'd by 3812 and is a SCP atom victim due to cosmology
Overkill mane, A transcendent being which is infinitely growing, meaning to surpass his author (which he possibly already did), able to remove concepts of something like an emotion with ease, almost solos his own verse (which is a really good feat in the SCP Verse) VS some yellow triangle
I'd say he'd not have that kind of advantage but high-extreme diff Bill Cipher as Bill Cipher wrote the book of Bill (btw go preorder it!) in real life and demonicly possesed his author.
@@SEBithehiper945 There is still cosmology for SCP-3812. A mere SCP atom scales to outerversal, so with that, SCP-3812 being boundless _without this cosmology..._
Do not listen to some of the people that are replying to your comments. Because you might not know about Bill but I will tell you about Bill Bill cipher is kind of basically a triangle, God. Erase univerhe can literally He Literally eight half of a world So he's also a lo only a God, but he's also an aging, God and a mind God Mind demon And so on ancient demon
Scp 3812 goes to a higher-universe where Bill Cipher is a fictional character, then he wins without a doubt 😊 Or in other words, Scp3812 broke and pass through the 4th wall
Bro, it is said that if weirdamegeddon was at full percent, he would be BEYOND axolotl, and it is also said that if he told you his real name you would die instantly or of horror.
And 3812 can infinitely transcend the narrative stack, every single time he does becoming stronger and stronger. And a part of him _stays_ in every stacked narrative, meaning he is also omnipresent infinite times over. 3812 quite literally has no limitations to what he can do assuming he manages to reach the top of the narrative stack. Against him, beings who are already more powerful than Bill (I.E Brothers Death, He Who Made Light and He Who Made Dark, The Scarlet King) are infinitely weaker than him.
Bro put an SCP in the ranks for the Top 10 Strongest Fictional Characters against a sentient Dorito and expected it to be a fair fight 💀💀 SCP-3812: Beyond No Concept of Negative Difficulty
@@josedavidmirandareyes5873 name as many people you can think of that is stronger than him and then I’ll put him below all of them so we can see what he would be in your opinion
@@bigashton111 he could tresend gih plane of exsistence he surpassed the author of the story (meta fictionally ) he can control all narratives that start at 0 percent and 100 percent fiction and go from their by every single percent so he tresend infinite + planes of exsistence
You guys forget that bill almost destroyed existence just by being there he was doing nothing sitting on his throne relaxing and almost destroyed existence while doing that in season 2 episode 18
@@ZormdI didn’t say bill had the power of existence I said bill had the power to obliterate existence EZ without trying at all while relaxing on his throne which is said/showed in season 2 episode 18 of gravity falls
@@1_Potatogod lol no scp 3812 Powerscaling: SCP-3812 is impossible to contain within any form of containment cell. SCP-3812 will alter reality to remove the containment cell, or move itself to another location, anomalous effect on local reality, specifically in the form of temporal and spatial distortions surrounding the entity. These distortions are occasionally accompanied by random, violent outbursts that may dramatically shift or damage local space and time. While SCP-3812 is usually docile and aimless, its random outbursts are invariably fatal to any living creature nearby, and can be extremely disastrous on a massive scale if not properly contained. occasionally alter reality in order to diminish the discrepancy between how it perceives something, and the way that something is in actuality. Due to this, it is An entity or force with access to higher energy metaphysical dimensions would perceive our reality similarly to how we perceive the reality of characters in a comic book. And just how we are able to, at whim, change the story simply by telling it differently, this higher energy being would be able to effortlessly make alterations to not just local reality, but reality as a whole, altering the baseline and changing its most fundamental aspects. Reality manipulation, Making him able to manipulate nothing, anything, and everything Being above fiction as we perceive it I'm sorry, I think I've fucked up pretty badly this time. I've tried everything I can think of, but I can't undo Him. I don't really understand how, but I think He's above me now, and whatever is above me, too, because whoever wrote my narrative isn't happy about this. I don't know where He's at now, but I think He exists in all of our realities simultaneously. Eventually He'll either reach the top or just keep going, and neither option is good. This is the person who created scp-3812 and possibly our reality who goes by the name 'ben' which was addressed by the second personality of scp-3812. SCP-3812: I'm not a monster. I don't kill. SCP-3812: You already have. He turned you into this. SCP-3812: Who? SCP-3812: Ben. SCP-3812: You... no, you can't see him. I can. I think he was above us at one point, but he's below me now. scp-3812 is referring to ben When SCP-3812 leaves one narrative and ascends into another, he's not really moving in any real sense. He's becoming almost more real, moving upwards through narratives instead of through space. He moves out of the fiction of one universe, into that universe, and then upwards until the universe he passes through has become fiction to him as well. The reason for this is the result of a logical conclusion - SCP-3812 was created to supercede anything that supersedes it, including itself. The moment a story about SCP-3812 in a higher universe would become more real than 3812, 3812 would then be forced to supersede himself, and so on and so on. Suffice to say, any creature, entity or concept described in any fiction within our universe would be so far gone in 3812's narrative rearview, it may as well have never existed at all. I wrote the laws of your universe, and as such created the narrative. This isn't the first time I've done this, but it was the first time I tried something like this specifically. I wanted to create something that, by definition, superseded everything that superseded it. I wanted to see how many layers there are, if the stack of narratives really do go on forever upward. The mistake I made was when I didn't realize that by making Him supersede everything that supersedes Him, He's also superseding himself. 8. From "Constructs of Reality in Higher Dimensions" by Dr. Robert Scranton: "Reality is no different from the physical; that is to say, it is one more way to describe order in the universe. Where the physical can be used to describe things and places, and the temporal can describe moments and periods, reality can be used to describe the completeness of the universe, its fallibility and its overall construction. With that said, just as there are no doubt higher physical dimensions that we cannot perceive or access, there is no reason to believe that the same could not apply to reality. Reality as we perceive it is no more than one tier in the hierarchy of organization that dictates the construction of our existence, and there are likely others above and below ours. Just like an entity in the 4th spatial dimension might perceive our universe and its contents as a whole, and could manipulate those contents from a realm of higher energy, so could an entity with access to a higher metaphysical dimension manipulate the very architecture of our reality, all at once, from a similar realm of higher energy." I wrote the laws of your universe, and as such I created the narrative. This isn't the first time I've done this, but it was the first time I tried something like this specifically. I wanted to create something that, by definition, superseded everything that superseded it. I wanted to see how many layers there are, if the stack of narratives really do go on forever upward. The mistake I made was when I didn't realize that by making Him supersede everything that supersedes Him, He's also superseding himself. I have often hypothesized on the nature of the echelon, if it even exists, and about whether it would be possible for an entity to see other realities above them or below them. We are currently able to manipulate our own reality, albeit in crude and imperfect ways, and our ability to travel through space is limited at best. It is likely that the only entity capable of ascending through this hypothetical echelon would be one that, by virtue of its very nature, must supersede anything that supersedes it. Such an entity would, as the end result of the logic of its creation, be forced to supersede itself, spiraling ever upwards through the tiers of reality, unable to break free from the bonds of its nature. Perhaps this entity may even someday supersede its creator, and become a host unto itself, the pinnacle above all other pinnacles. A tower that, as a part of its design, must be higher than every other tower, including itself. Such an entity obviously cannot exist, as any ascension to a higher plane of reality without changes to the entity's psychology would no doubt break the being's cognition, making it more similar to an ascending stone than any sentient creature. Once the entity surpassed its own creator, it would have nothing but itself to rely on to prepare it for the sheer scope of narrative it would be exposed to, and would be wholly unable to even begin to comprehend what it would experience. But what an experience that would be! this is Dr. Scranton's articles about the nature of reality, this was posted before scp-3812's existence, as u can read scp fits every stereotype made by Dr. Scranton. Absolute transcendence The power to transcend anything and everything. Form/Expression of Omnipotence. Variation of Selective Transcendence and Eternal Transcendence. Absolute version of Self Transcendence. The user transcends absolutely anything and everything. This includes all dimensions, life/death. beginning/ending, concepts/ideas/principles, creation/destruction, boundaries, context, potential, possibilities/variables, levels of reality. existence/nonexistence, perfection/levels of perfection, embodiments, their personal status, being/non-being, etc. And the user could even still keep on transcending above forever if the user wants. When SCP-3812 leaves one narrative and ascends into another, he's not really moving in any real sense. He's becoming almost more real, moving upwards through narratives instead of through space. He moves out of the fiction of one universe, into that universe, and then upwards until the universe he passes through has become fiction to him as well. The reason for this is the result of a logical conclusion - SCP-3812 was created to supercede anything that supersedes it, including itself. The moment a story about SCP-3812 in a higher universe would become more real than 3812, 3812 would then be forced to supersede himself, and so on and so on. Suffice to say, any creature, entity or concept described in any fiction within our universe would be so far gone in 3812's narrative rearview, it may as well have never existed at all. I wrote the laws of your universe, and as such created the narrative. This isn't the first time I've done this, but it was the first time I tried something like this specifically. I wanted to create something that, by definition, superseded everything that superseded it. I wanted to see how many layers there are, if the stack of narratives really do go on forever upward. The mistake I made was when I didn't realize that by making Him supersede everything that supersedes Him, He's also superseding himself. scp 3812 is irrelevant layers into boundless. negs diff composite anime+cartoon.
@@1_Potatogodand SCP-3812 ignored all his author's attempts to kill him, 3812's author is on the alpha layer (I think) and any being on or above the alpha layer can destroy bill with a thought
How do you guys forget that bill literally did nothing and just relaxed on his throne and almost destroyed existence while he was doing that it is even said/showed in season 2 episode 18 gravity falls
@@1_Potatogod You forgot the fact that he was beaten by 12 year olds and an old dude. Also bill didn't destroy existence, he's only destroying the town because he was stuck there.
@@Goodsuper98Bill Cipher can beat SCP 3812 Mid - High Diff Bill Cipher can brat SCP 7709 Very Extreme diff or loses (almost can't happen because Bill Cipher can rebirth)
@@Cheatm2137 true isn't scp3812 is considered to be one of the top 10 strongest Scp heck he can beat the Normal Scarlet king, Scp343, Gate guardian, Scp682 and the others But he will definitely lose if it's like scarlet demon BUT I think he can win if he had more time to trancend
This is sadly true as a giant bill fan i agree but i miss old scp when it wasnt just "MY CHARACTER SOLOS REALITY AND FICTION" and yes i know bill is also crazy strong but STILL has infinitely better character writing and isnt just boundless blan blah blah solos fiction like I miss the old scp its when it was just horror before and now its just brainless tiering i miss old scps with actually good Character writing and have A REASON to be stupidly strong
Scp 3182 vs bill *with proof* Strength: BillSCP 3182 (destroyed planets in one sweep in death battle) IQ: bill< SCP 3182 (he lived when it all began so he has all information) Battle IQ: bill>SCP 3182 (we just know) Durability: bill>SCP 3812 (SCP 3812 body is cosmic so he can't take damage like bill) Agility: bill
Well speed goes to 3812 because he deleted complex omniverses in negative time which if u dont know negative time is zero which means u cant do anything in it and he did it in less than the comphrension of the fabric of time battle iq goes to 3812 because he is omniscient and in strength he transcends all concepts and all realities get transcended without a doubt he transcends narratives upon narratives and the alpha layers even transcending himself and everything in existence
Bill would have been a "fun" SCP for the foundation to contain. Actually Gravity Falls is just a Foundation site. Just get MTF Village Idiots to clear the area and a few amnestics and they got that covered.
I laughed a lot at this question. You seriously think Bill Cipher will win. There is no writing in the description of scp 3812 that it is stronger than all fictions :D
See what I mean you goofy uncultured scp fans think scp solos fiction you goofy scp fans need to do research because there’s so many characters in different verses it’s a countless amount of characters that obliterate all scp’s
Guys that said SCP 3812 has lost to bill cipher 3812 can control and read people’s minds and can control reality time soul minds and have so much more powers then bill cipher I say SCP 3812 wins beyond negative diff because 3812 is the creator of the whole multiverse and he can destroy universe and recreate them very easily and SCP 3812 can squeeze and bill cipher is gone in less then a second so 3812 wins beyond negative diff
@@Goodsuper98no your stupid I understand that this scp beats bill cipher but he is stil High Complex Multiversal to put that in to perspective that is above Doomslayer and Kratos scaling
Bill was alsmost at his peak and he was hyperversal even if people use statements from the journal that state his stronger then the axolotl that outer level statements guess waht scp 3812 îs high outer în base form
Being able to appear out of nowhere gives him The edge of speed also he destroyed his own universe and we would regenerate from a cannon that is designed to destroy him and he survived being erased from Stanley’s mind
@@ytimalaC977cool, bill destroys galaxies, universes and dimensions for fun, even said from axolotl he destroyed his dimensions for fun, and his anger nearly wiped the whole multiverse, bill literally broke the fourth wall and killed time baby who too is a concept, i mean yea maybe he didn't do his authors dirty but thats because.. it isn't the scp foundation? He would've done the authors dirty too if they came at him
Okay bill cipher can't win not even close and the reason why is because bill cipher is only cabaple of nigh omniscience, reality manipulation, possession, time manipulation, matter, manipulation, shape shifting, laser and more but here is the problem bill is not onmipotent or even nigh omnipotence in which the only way he can defeat scp 3812 is only in the nightmare realm which he would only be considered omnipotent but physical form not at all because scp 3812 would only look at bill cipher and proceed to superceed him in ever way without even trying.
@@deez_edits1watch this mf Starting off with Mid Cipher. He destroyed an galaxy which is horrible feats compared to 3812. Mid Cipher also can stop time which means he can damage SCP 3812 alot to weaken him. We will come back to mid cipher. Now 3812. We know he is boundless which is one of the strongest tiering system end. He can destroy anything in seconds. Except scps that are stronger. 3812 is also bigger than outerverses. His size can kill mid cipher in pictoseconds. We also know 3812 grows trillions of power each second. Now back to Mid cipher. Since he can do more than time stop, he can stand a chance if he weakens 3812 to the point where 3812 cant do anything except hit him. Mid cipher can also fly but it doesnt even help him since 3812 has infinte reach. Goodluck running away from him. 3812 also can kill mid cipher with a blow of wind from 3812's verse. 1 blow from 3812 no concepts of differnce in existence the entire verse.
@@deez_edits1Scp canon solo fiction because Scp 3812 Transcends infinite narrative and transcends the script and he transcend the alpha Layer(real life)
I say Bill Cipher because I can made a competition: Strength: Bill Cipher (infinity) Speed: = (both have Immeasurable speed) IQ+BIQ+AP+DC+Battle IQ+ Cosmology+Travel Speed+ Knowledge: Bill Cipher (I can't explain) Durability+Endurance: Bill Cipher (Beyond Boundless Level) Power's+Abilities: Bill Cipher (have so many abilities I can't explain that) Free Point+Overrated: 3812 Underrated+OP: Bill Cipher Points: Bill Cipher: 17 SCP 3812: 3 Bill Cipher winner against 3812 with Mid - High difficulty
Ntg wukong can clap the both of them nauways out of context in my opinion bill cipher is basically close tp omnipotent like scp 3812bit interms of power they are nearly equivalent but bill cipher is technically going to win since scp 3812 is mentally unstable and doesn't have much experience as bill cipher so bill cipher wins low to high diff
Fax also did you know bill cipher can interact with the real world any time he wants which is showed when bill cipher himself changes the gravity falls intro
Is scaling debatable? Are you serious? Scp-3812 defeated scp-2747 and surpassed scp-5999 and scp-5500, which could kill the author just by manifesting it, and his author was completely powerless against him. Scp-3812 is easily boundless, but bill is only 1-B scp-3812 one taps this overrated dorito
seria un empate ya que los 2 son seres muy poderosos pero bill es capas de destruir la galaxia y no solo la galaxia el universo y ademas si bill chiper tubiera el podel de viajar por el multiverso un ejemplo podria destruirlo
3812 shits on the verse and it's not even close. I'm a heavy bill fan but that's the truth.
Bill is powerful but not enough to survive his story getting erased which is what Scp 3812 can do
I would agree if Bill wasn't Fiction+
If anything they just end up being dead even.
I'm probably low balling, but considering that doing so save SCP from being broken op garbage is better.
@@Skrillmast3r hmm, the Scp scale system is trash but it is what it js
I've heard of a theory that after bill's death he ascended to our own dimension so if this theory is correct then bill is basically a canonically real being fighting a canonically fictional being
@@holahola-ym1xv bruh fictional character can't be real is this happen other scp can be real to because in there lore they can interact with rl people
@@Vashwinter Yes, i know, in a narrative they ascended, of course we aren't talking about actual real physical world
Scp 3812 negs Bill Cipher, SCP 3812 is a narrative entity and he keep growing even more powerful, reaching more boundless narrative layers making Scp 3812 literally omnipotent -_-
Bill has the same effect it was said that bill becomes stronger every second weirdmagedon is in place
@@breadtrap5715 Of course it is stated that Bill become stronger every seconds but for SCP 3812 it’s worse because SCP 3812 passes from boundless layers to boundless layers.
@@breadtrap5715 mcu hela (a fodder) is stated to grow in strength on asgard and she was killed with relative ease.
@@run.3922 but there is a difference between mcu and Gravity Falls and also their is proof in the journals that proves rhis
Narratives doesn't work -_-
Also Bill Cipher is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient and have more scale than 3812
X: B-Bu
Me: SHUT UP, SCP 3812 is overrated.
Bill's a SCP atom victim
Hmm I didn’t High Complex Multiversal was a victim of a scp atom makes a lot of sense
@@breadtrap5715 cosmology bumps the atoms to boundless 💀
@@agony_addict 💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡
@@breadtrap5715 it's true lmao
Bill
1-Strengh: Scp 3812
2-Speed: Scp 3812
3-Agility: Scp 3812
4-Fsiq: Bill
5-Battle Iq: Bill
6-Strategy: Bill
7-Knowledge: Bill
8-Exp: Bill
9-Combat: Bill
10-Hand to Hand: Bill
11-Abilities: Bill
12-Skills: Scp 3812
13-Powers: Scp 3812
14-Hax: Scp 3812
15-Endurance: Scp 3812
16-Durability: Scp 3812
17-Stamina: Scp 3812
18-Offanse: Scp 3812
18-Defense: Scp 3812
20-Resistance: Scp 3812
21-Attack Potency: Scp 3812
22-Destructive Capacity: Scp 3812
23-Weapons: Bill
24-Statements: Scp 3812
25-Scaling: Scp 3812
26-Tier: Scp 3812
27-Feats: Scp 3812
28-Cosmology: Scp 3812
29-Overall: Scp 3812 (19) > Bill (9)
Winner: Scp 3812 Wins No Concept of Diff
abilities goes scp 3812
@@Zormd I give abilities Bill because I don't know SCP 3812's abilities
@@Zormd Pretty sure he means the amount of abilities,not exactly the power of said abilities and Bill has alot more powers compared to Sam. But I could be wrong.
@@judemanr7814No not abilities goes scp 3812 get power narrative and concept
@@Zormd No I am saying Bill has more abilities but they are weaker than Sam's. It's just that abilities usually just mean, who has more abilities,not how strong the ability actually is. Sam has around 8-11 or something broken abilities while Bill has around like 50 abilities but they are weaker and can't affect Sam.
Bill literally destroyed his entire galaxy with ease
Edit: he can also stop time, enter peoples minds, teleport, become invisible etc
Edit 2: Its appears i have started a war in the comments
Um did you read about 3812 cause even though I watched gravity falls I do think 3812 is stronger because he always grows like he has no limit
3812 can destroy omniverses without a thought
He can just keep going through different layers of the universe while also getting stronger each time
@@karterhiBill was said to grow continuously beyond infinity, also he has WAY stronger abilities and experience. I’d say it’s a tie, or Bill wins. 😬
@@OzkiiBoyno, 3812 passively trancends narratives, Bill has never shown any ability to even interact with the narrative, he get's negg'd by 3812 and is a SCP atom victim due to cosmology
Overkill mane, A transcendent being which is infinitely growing, meaning to surpass his author (which he possibly already did), able to remove concepts of something like an emotion with ease, almost solos his own verse (which is a really good feat in the SCP Verse) VS some yellow triangle
I'd say he'd not have that kind of advantage but high-extreme diff Bill Cipher as Bill Cipher wrote the book of Bill (btw go preorder it!) in real life and demonicly possesed his author.
So SCP 3812 might beat Bill Cipher high-extreme diff, but not Overkill, which you might mean as "Neg Diff" or "Beyond Neg Diff".
@@SEBithehiper945 There is still cosmology for SCP-3812. A mere SCP atom scales to outerversal, so with that, SCP-3812 being boundless _without this cosmology..._
Do not listen to some of the people that are replying to your comments. Because you might not know about Bill but I will tell you about Bill Bill cipher is kind of basically a triangle, God.
Erase univerhe can literally He Literally eight half of a world So he's also a lo only a God, but he's also an aging, God and a mind God
Mind demon And so on ancient demon
@@SEBithehiper945that’s overkill negative diff without a thought he destroys him
Scp 3812 laughing until Bill whips out 100% meme force
Edit: Before people attack in replies this is a joke
Scp 3812 with 10% power solo the verse
until he hear bill' real name
@@pogger9925 HE'S A STREET FODDER CAN'T EVEN STOP 12 YEAR OLDS
Then piano cat enters the chat
shaggy's 0.00002😂😂😂
@@lenokgaming Shaggy is also so overrated
Scp 3812 can control reality as a whole so he can just take bill's powers
Scp 3812 no concept of diff bill fans are something else.
This youtuber said that the scp Is stronger no it's Is stronger Bill Literally Defeats gods He literally is a god
...
Scp 3812 goes to a higher-universe where Bill Cipher is a fictional character, then he wins without a doubt 😊
Or in other words, Scp3812 broke and pass through the 4th wall
You forgot Is scp 3812 immune reality warping
@@Zormd I said SCP 3812 wins but yeah
SCP>>> Bill
SCP 3812 & Bill cipher = friends
Bro, it is said that if weirdamegeddon was at full percent, he would be BEYOND axolotl, and it is also said that if he told you his real name you would die instantly or of horror.
Also SCP-3812 is beyond Bill's comprehension
And 3812 can infinitely transcend the narrative stack, every single time he does becoming stronger and stronger. And a part of him _stays_ in every stacked narrative, meaning he is also omnipresent infinite times over. 3812 quite literally has no limitations to what he can do assuming he manages to reach the top of the narrative stack. Against him, beings who are already more powerful than Bill (I.E Brothers Death, He Who Made Light and He Who Made Dark, The Scarlet King) are infinitely weaker than him.
Im sure if we add a scp title to bill's name he will win
Bro put an SCP in the ranks for the Top 10 Strongest Fictional Characters against a sentient Dorito and expected it to be a fair fight 💀💀
SCP-3812: Beyond No Concept of Negative Difficulty
bruh bill is stronger than you think i think bill is at least top 20
@@Gravity_Falls-Classified.567 xD no
@@josedavidmirandareyes5873 yeah he’s top 20 he’s one of the strongest cartoon characters
@@SantanawhoisafanofScott Cartoon yes, ficción no
@@josedavidmirandareyes5873 name as many people you can think of that is stronger than him and then I’ll put him below all of them so we can see what he would be in your opinion
Im so happy to be a fan of scp 3812 because no one can beat him
A lot can beat him
GIH victim
@@bigashton111 gih is only high outer to boundless baseline scp 3812 is Infinite layers into boundless
@@Denishabani what makes him so strong
@@bigashton111 he could tresend gih plane of exsistence he surpassed the author of the story (meta fictionally ) he can control all narratives that start at 0 percent and 100 percent fiction and go from their by every single percent so he tresend infinite + planes of exsistence
You guys forget that bill almost destroyed existence just by being there he was doing nothing sitting on his throne relaxing and almost destroyed existence while doing that in season 2 episode 18
is scp 3812 immune existence
@@ZormdI didn’t say bill had the power of existence I said bill had the power to obliterate existence EZ without trying at all while relaxing on his throne which is said/showed in season 2 episode 18 of gravity falls
@@1_Potatogod lol no
scp 3812 Powerscaling:
SCP-3812 is impossible to contain within any form of containment cell. SCP-3812 will alter reality to remove the containment cell, or move itself to another location,
anomalous effect on local reality, specifically in the form of temporal and spatial distortions surrounding the entity. These distortions are occasionally accompanied by random, violent outbursts that may dramatically shift or damage local space and time. While SCP-3812 is usually docile and aimless, its random outbursts are invariably fatal to any living creature nearby, and can be extremely disastrous on a massive scale if not properly contained.
occasionally alter reality in order to diminish the discrepancy between how it perceives something, and the way that something is in actuality. Due to this, it is
An entity or force with access to higher energy metaphysical dimensions would perceive our reality similarly to how we perceive the reality of characters in a comic book. And just how we are able to, at whim, change the story simply by telling it differently, this higher energy being would be able to effortlessly make alterations to not just local reality, but reality as a whole, altering the baseline and changing its most fundamental aspects.
Reality manipulation, Making him able to manipulate nothing, anything, and everything Being above fiction as we perceive it
I'm sorry, I think I've fucked up pretty badly this time. I've tried everything I can think of, but I can't undo Him. I don't really understand how, but I think He's above me now, and whatever is above me, too, because whoever wrote my narrative isn't happy about this. I don't know where He's at now, but I think He exists in all of our realities simultaneously. Eventually He'll either reach the top or just keep going, and neither option is good.
This is the person who created scp-3812 and possibly our reality who goes by the name 'ben' which was addressed by the second personality of scp-3812.
SCP-3812: I'm not a monster. I don't kill.
SCP-3812: You already have. He turned you into this.
SCP-3812: Who?
SCP-3812: Ben.
SCP-3812: You... no, you can't see him. I can. I think he was above us at one point, but he's below me now.
scp-3812 is referring to ben
When SCP-3812 leaves one narrative and ascends into another, he's not really moving in any real sense. He's becoming almost more real, moving upwards through narratives instead of through space. He moves out of the fiction of one universe, into that universe, and then upwards until the universe he passes through has become fiction to him as well. The reason for this is the result of a logical conclusion
- SCP-3812 was created to supercede anything that supersedes it, including itself. The moment a story about SCP-3812 in a higher universe would become more real than 3812, 3812 would then be forced to supersede himself, and so on and so on.
Suffice to say, any creature, entity or concept described in any fiction within our universe would be so far gone in 3812's narrative rearview, it may as well have never existed at all.
I wrote the laws of your universe, and as such created the narrative. This isn't the first time I've done this, but it was the first time I tried something like this specifically. I wanted to create something that, by definition, superseded everything that superseded it. I wanted to see how many layers there are, if the stack of narratives really do go on forever upward. The mistake I made was when I didn't realize that by making Him supersede everything that supersedes Him, He's also superseding himself.
8. From "Constructs of Reality in Higher Dimensions" by Dr. Robert Scranton: "Reality is no different from the physical; that is to say, it is one more way to describe order in the universe. Where the physical can be used to describe things and places, and the temporal can describe moments and periods, reality can be used to describe the completeness of the universe, its fallibility and its overall construction. With that said, just as there are no doubt higher physical dimensions that we cannot perceive or access, there is no reason to believe that the same could not apply to reality. Reality as we perceive it is no more than one tier in the hierarchy of organization that dictates the construction of our existence, and there are likely others above and below ours. Just like an entity in the 4th spatial dimension might perceive our universe and its contents as a whole, and could manipulate those contents from a realm of higher energy, so could an entity with access to a higher metaphysical dimension manipulate the very architecture of our reality, all at once, from a similar realm of higher energy."
I wrote the laws of your universe, and as such I created the narrative. This isn't the first time I've done this, but it was the first time I tried something like this specifically. I wanted to create something that, by definition, superseded everything that superseded it. I wanted to see how many layers there are, if the stack of narratives really do go on forever upward. The mistake I made was when I didn't realize that by making Him supersede everything that supersedes Him, He's also superseding himself.
I have often hypothesized on the nature of the echelon, if it even exists, and about whether it would be possible for an entity to see other realities above them or below them. We are currently able to manipulate our own reality, albeit in crude and imperfect ways, and our ability to travel through space is limited at best. It is likely that the only entity capable of ascending through this hypothetical echelon would be one that, by virtue of its very nature, must supersede anything that supersedes it. Such an entity would, as the end result of the logic of its creation, be forced to supersede itself, spiraling ever upwards through the tiers of reality, unable to break free from the bonds of its nature. Perhaps this entity may even someday supersede its creator, and become a host unto itself, the pinnacle above all other pinnacles. A tower that, as a part of its design, must be higher than every other tower, including itself.
Such an entity obviously cannot exist, as any ascension to a higher plane of reality without changes to the entity's psychology would no doubt break the being's cognition, making it more similar to an ascending stone than any sentient creature. Once the entity surpassed its own creator, it would have nothing but itself to rely on to prepare it for the sheer scope of narrative it would be exposed to, and would be wholly unable to even begin to comprehend what it would experience. But what an experience that would be!
this is Dr. Scranton's articles about the nature of reality, this was posted before scp-3812's existence, as u can read scp fits every stereotype made by Dr. Scranton.
Absolute transcendence
The power to transcend anything and everything.
Form/Expression of Omnipotence. Variation of Selective Transcendence and Eternal Transcendence. Absolute version of Self Transcendence.
The user transcends absolutely anything and everything. This includes all dimensions, life/death. beginning/ending, concepts/ideas/principles, creation/destruction, boundaries, context, potential, possibilities/variables, levels of reality.
existence/nonexistence, perfection/levels of perfection, embodiments, their personal status, being/non-being, etc. And the user could even still keep on transcending above forever if the user wants.
When SCP-3812 leaves one narrative and ascends into another, he's not really moving in any real sense. He's becoming almost more real, moving upwards through narratives instead of through space. He moves out of the fiction of one universe, into that universe, and then upwards until the universe he passes through has become fiction to him as well. The reason for this is the result of a logical conclusion
- SCP-3812 was created to supercede anything that supersedes it, including itself. The moment a story about SCP-3812 in a higher universe would become more real than 3812, 3812 would then be forced to supersede himself, and so on and so on.
Suffice to say, any creature, entity or concept described in any fiction within our universe would be so far gone in 3812's narrative rearview, it may as well have never existed at all.
I wrote the laws of your universe, and as such created the narrative. This isn't the first time I've done this, but it was the first time I tried something like this specifically. I wanted to create something that, by definition, superseded everything that superseded it. I wanted to see how many layers there are, if the stack of narratives really do go on forever upward. The mistake I made was when I didn't realize that by making Him supersede everything that supersedes Him, He's also superseding himself.
scp 3812 is irrelevant layers into boundless. negs diff composite anime+cartoon.
@@1_Potatogodand SCP-3812 ignored all his author's attempts to kill him, 3812's author is on the alpha layer (I think) and any being on or above the alpha layer can destroy bill with a thought
@@ytimalaC977how ?
Scp 3812 for sure ❤
Scp 3812>Bill Cipher
Dorito vs strongest fictional character to exist, all of his assessments are unbounded and can always grow
Supreme authorities and scarlet demon
Then we can make an Scp called The God Of reality
Bro it's overkill Sam would make Bill his puppet
They should be friends fr
bill literlly chomped on earth like it was a cookie edit:this was old cap
Well mr the voice behind me can just erase a reality or dimension he transend
scp human>>>>> bill cipher lol
How do you guys forget that bill literally did nothing and just relaxed on his throne and almost destroyed existence while he was doing that it is even said/showed in season 2 episode 18 gravity falls
@@1_Potatogod You forgot the fact that he was beaten by 12 year olds and an old dude. Also bill didn't destroy existence, he's only destroying the town because he was stuck there.
@@RamanK2007W
Overkill
Bill is strong and really smart, but he wouldn’t last long between scp 3812
☠
scp negs mid bill cipher lol
@@Goodsuper98Bill Cipher can beat SCP 3812 Mid - High Diff
Bill Cipher can brat SCP 7709 Very Extreme diff or loses (almost can't happen because Bill Cipher can rebirth)
@@dvd-w5t777cringe
@@Zormdyou is cringe
Bruh this us so unfair Bill might be a Universal to Multiversal threat but SCP3812 CAN TRANSCEND EVERYTHING SO HIS PROBABLY AT BOUNDLESS LEVEL
He is Boundless without cosmology. And the cosmology makes a SCP atom Outerversal
@@Cheatm2137 true isn't scp3812 is considered to be one of the top 10 strongest Scp heck he can beat the Normal Scarlet king, Scp343, Gate guardian, Scp682 and the others
But he will definitely lose if it's like scarlet demon BUT I think he can win if he had more time to trancend
This is in no way fair scp 3812 literally has Infinite potential and already ascended past his own writer
Try clockwork trollface vs random trollface(also put sans there lol just for fun)
Even scp 343 can beat bill cipher
This is sadly true as a giant bill fan i agree but i miss old scp when it wasnt just
"MY CHARACTER SOLOS REALITY AND FICTION" and yes i know bill is also crazy strong but
STILL has infinitely better character writing and isnt just boundless blan blah blah solos fiction like
I miss the old scp its when it was just horror before and now its just brainless tiering i miss old scps
with actually good Character writing and have A REASON to be stupidly strong
Luigi
@@gruser617 so real
Bill: **possesses SCP 3812**
They have to make a deal for bill to poses him
You realize bro have a severe case of schizophrenia, right? That shit will knock the living shit out of bill.
Scp 3812: *delete cartoonverse*
@@YaseenOmer-ss1omBill: **11D version**
@@dvd-w5t777are you kidding🤨?
scp atom: *InfiniteD verison*
Prob 3812 because he can traverse levels of fiction (he could make it to where bill never existed and for people who disagree look it up lol.
He can kick his butt
Which one tho-
Who can kick who's butt
@@Iamathing_HE CAN lol
@@Iamathing_he
3812 and bill have same goal escape their narrative
Scp 3812
Bill Cipher (My favourite fictional character):Hyperversal
Scp 3812:Immeasurable layers into Boundless-Irrelevant layers into Boundless
comp bill cipher= extraversal 1S
SCP 3812= irrevalent layers into boundless
extraversal>boundless
SCP 3812 mid-high diffs fr
Nice edit bro, but this isn't close at all. Bill stands no chance
Scp 3182 vs bill *with proof*
Strength: BillSCP 3182 (destroyed planets in one sweep in death battle)
IQ: bill< SCP 3182 (he lived when it all began so he has all information)
Battle IQ: bill>SCP 3182 (we just know)
Durability: bill>SCP 3812 (SCP 3812 body is cosmic so he can't take damage like bill)
Agility: bill
Well speed goes to 3812 because he deleted complex omniverses in negative time which if u dont know negative time is zero which means u cant do anything in it and he did it in less than the comphrension of the fabric of time battle iq goes to 3812 because he is omniscient and in strength he transcends all concepts and all realities get transcended without a doubt he transcends narratives upon narratives and the alpha layers even transcending himself and everything in existence
Oh I didn't know that sorry:(
@@virlindafelix3885 no its ok your fine
@@TrixgoWell bill was moving when time was stopped
@@Magister195not works
SCP-3812 with 1% solos Bill and AXOLOTL
Nope
Cry 😂
İf bill cipher do t barrier bill gets everything
@@Viruswiseditor What do you mean cry. Bill is an SCP Atom victim.
@@ThatGelatinBoi nope
I Heard Bill Cipher Can Destroy Gravity ☠️
And?
scp 3812: *breath*
bill cipher: 💀
Bro dont know hwo bill with full power 💀💀💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 3812 has no full potential
By all means 3812>
@@Vexons ok, but Bill still gets beat by him easily
@@agony_addict bruh how can you beat someone that is above most of fiction
@@Vexons a SCP atom is enough for Bill 💀
He also can enter people’s mind and he knows everything in the hyperverse
Scp hax+cosmology:
Bill would have been a "fun" SCP for the foundation to contain. Actually Gravity Falls is just a Foundation site.
Just get MTF Village Idiots to clear the area and a few amnestics and they got that covered.
I laughed a lot at this question. You seriously think Bill Cipher will win. There is no writing in the description of scp 3812 that it is stronger than all fictions :D
See what I mean you goofy uncultured scp fans think scp solos fiction you goofy scp fans need to do research because there’s so many characters in different verses it’s a countless amount of characters that obliterate all scp’s
@@1_Potatogodthink you Bill cipher beat one above all 💀
@@Zormdwhy did you call me bill cipher you said “think you bill cipher beat one above all” ? I don’t understand what you mean learn grammar
@@1_Potatogod please Stop using talking
@@Zormdplease be more specific I don’t know what you mean by that
Bill could be bigger than anything in this universe without a core shaped barrier+ his abilities being a giant
Nah scp 3812 destroy infinite outerversal
Dude scp 3812 has plot manipulation and în the end of the show bill got negged by plot armor
As a bill cipher fan scp 3812 win
He started the apocalypse
Bill cipher is dead
Bruh, 3812 can start several multiverses and narratives to fall in single thought
@@Goodsuper98no it is confirmed bill isn’t dead when people heard his backwards message when he “died”
@@Friesman_what’s so good about making story’s on paper fall
Gravity falls is a insignificant speck compared to SCP-3812
I hate from bill fanboys. They made dirty a cool and funny character. However, Scp 3812 low diffs
Who are you calling dirty
@@laxmikadam174every bill fantard are idiots who cant know that destroying existance în an infinte multiverse doesnt reach hyperversal
Guys that said SCP 3812 has lost to bill cipher 3812 can control and read people’s minds and can control reality time soul minds and have so much more powers then bill cipher I say SCP 3812 wins beyond negative diff because 3812 is the creator of the whole multiverse and he can destroy universe and recreate them very easily and SCP 3812 can squeeze and bill cipher is gone in less then a second so 3812 wins beyond negative diff
Bill wasn't even at full power in the end of Gravity falls
Scp human en>>>>>> bill cipher
@@Goodsuper98no your stupid I understand that this scp beats bill cipher but he is stil High Complex Multiversal to put that in to perspective that is above Doomslayer and Kratos scaling
And 3812 don’t even have a full power because Sam is freaking boundless
Bill was alsmost at his peak and he was hyperversal even if people use statements from the journal that state his stronger then the axolotl that outer level statements guess waht scp 3812 îs high outer în base form
3812 is literally so powerful that he doesn’t have a full power.
Being able to appear out of nowhere gives him The edge of speed also he destroyed his own universe and we would regenerate from a cannon that is designed to destroy him and he survived being erased from Stanley’s mind
scp 3812 is irrelevant layers into boundless level
The cannon didn't shoot at bill it misses
Bill and 3812 are both equally strong and equally powerful but lose to the "constructors".
Imagine just getting erased
Bill Cipher SCP Canon Wins No-Concept-of-diff
Wdym bill cipher scp is fan made not canon
SCP 3812: NEGATIVE DIFF ++++++
Scp Canon Bill: 🌚
you are trolling?
Not canon is fan made
Non canon fanmade 0D fodder
Scp cn🗿
Scp 3812 no concept of diff the verse
Destroyed multiple galaxies and when it come back he wasn't even her a single bed and he can regenerate everything
SCP-3812 trancended past his author, ignored all his authors attempts to kill him, and erased an entire concept.
@@ytimalaC977cool, bill destroys galaxies, universes and dimensions for fun, even said from axolotl he destroyed his dimensions for fun, and his anger nearly wiped the whole multiverse, bill literally broke the fourth wall and killed time baby who too is a concept, i mean yea maybe he didn't do his authors dirty but thats because.. it isn't the scp foundation? He would've done the authors dirty too if they came at him
@@ytimalaC977alex himself confirmed that bill is strong as shit but it is highly debated that scp 3812 wins
@@dyingpianist Time baby isn't a concept, he's a supernatural creature
I feel like Bill Cypress only IQ black hats. Only weapons and discord is only magic.
as someone who is not a fan of scp, scp 3812 literally sneezes the verse
scp 3812 solos no concept of dif
very 1 sided and unfair debate
scp 3812 no concept of diff
Imagine almost losing to a MLP character, couldn't be SCP 3812
What does mlp have to do with this?
@@Godzillafan2236mlp>>>>>>gf for cosmology
Okay bill cipher can't win not even close and the reason why is because bill cipher is only cabaple of nigh omniscience, reality manipulation, possession, time manipulation, matter, manipulation, shape shifting, laser and more but here is the problem bill is not onmipotent or even nigh omnipotence in which the only way he can defeat scp 3812 is only in the nightmare realm which he would only be considered omnipotent but physical form not at all because scp 3812 would only look at bill cipher and proceed to superceed him in ever way without even trying.
scp 3812 vs hyper god 🗿🍷
hey, doesnt bill cipher control ALEX HIRSCH: THE CREATOR OF THE SHOW IN REAL LIFE:
Bill😊
Scp 3812 Win Byoend Negative Diff
Level scp 3812=High Outerverse Tier 1A+
Level Bill cipher= Low-Mid multiverse Tier 2B+ Low 2A
id say scp 3812 wins extreme diff due to bill having more experience and more iq and knowledge but 3812 wins either way
No 3812 have more knowledge due to him seeing bill as a fictional character
😂 3012SCP солирует Билла без разницы лишь одним присутствием это самое нелепая кепка из всех😂😂😂
Who love's bill cipher❤️🔥⚠️👁
Bill>>>all scp
funny how cartoon characters beat scp?? 😂
@@Zormd Bill cipher (scp canon)=all scp king
@@deez_edits1watch this mf
Starting off with Mid Cipher. He destroyed an galaxy which is horrible feats compared to 3812. Mid Cipher also can stop time which means he can damage SCP 3812 alot to weaken him. We will come back to mid cipher.
Now 3812.
We know he is boundless which is one of the strongest tiering system end.
He can destroy anything in seconds. Except scps that are stronger.
3812 is also bigger than outerverses. His size can kill mid cipher in pictoseconds. We also know 3812 grows trillions of power each second.
Now back to Mid cipher. Since he can do more than time stop, he can stand a chance if he weakens 3812 to the point where 3812 cant do anything except hit him. Mid cipher can also fly but it doesnt even help him since 3812 has infinte reach. Goodluck running away from him.
3812 also can kill mid cipher with a blow of wind from 3812's verse. 1 blow from 3812 no concepts of differnce in existence the entire verse.
@@deez_edits1Scp canon solo fiction because Scp 3812 Transcends infinite narrative and transcends the script and he transcend the alpha Layer(real life)
Scp 3812 is stronger than his own others
Scp 3812:👌
What is music?
I think After dark x Somebody i used to know sped up.
@@Cheatm2137 thank you very much, bro
I say Bill Cipher because I can made a competition:
Strength: Bill Cipher (infinity)
Speed: = (both have Immeasurable speed)
IQ+BIQ+AP+DC+Battle IQ+ Cosmology+Travel Speed+ Knowledge: Bill Cipher (I can't explain)
Durability+Endurance: Bill Cipher (Beyond Boundless Level)
Power's+Abilities: Bill Cipher (have so many abilities I can't explain that)
Free Point+Overrated: 3812
Underrated+OP: Bill Cipher
Points:
Bill Cipher: 17
SCP 3812: 3
Bill Cipher winner against 3812 with Mid - High difficulty
Scp atom>>>>>>>bill cipher+verse😂
is scp atom bill cipher victims
@@YaseenOmer-ss1om Bill Cipher >>>>>>>>>>>> SCP
@@Zormd don't overrate SCP
@@dvd-w5t777
bill cipher fankids be like:
"bill cipher is low boundless 🤓"
"bill cipher negs diff real world 🤓"
"bill cipher is author level 🤓"
Scp3812
Bill cipher was defeated by kids
Ntg wukong can clap the both of them nauways out of context in my opinion bill cipher is basically close tp omnipotent like scp 3812bit interms of power they are nearly equivalent but bill cipher is technically going to win since scp 3812 is mentally unstable and doesn't have much experience as bill cipher so bill cipher wins low to high diff
Scp 3812 overkills
overkill even a small kitten is enough for sam
Bruh
Bill has only one weakness and that's to perform the ritual
yes because in gravity falls they didnt destroy bill just trapped him
And the memory gun.
Scp 3812 still scales above bill
What can beat bill plot armor one of scp 3812 powers îs plot manipulation
3812 has 0 weaknesses.
Bill cipher real life😈😈>>all scp
You are either on drugs or just a 5 old think bill cipher is real
Fax also did you know bill cipher can interact with the real world any time he wants which is showed when bill cipher himself changes the gravity falls intro
@@1_Potatogod ok kids
@@Zormdcommon desperate roast get good scp fan
Winner SCP-3812.
bu soruda çok güldüm ciddi ciddi Bill Cipher'ın kazanacağınımı düşünüyorsunuz scp 3812'nin açıklamasında bütün kurgulardan daha güçlüdür yazı yo :D
SCP 3812 can defeat normal bill cipher but not bill cipher (SCP canon) because he solos 99% of SCP
@@laxmikadam174Kids
@@laxmikadam174stfu stop using scp cannon bill as copium
Scp 3812 wins
Bill SCP Canon Enters The Chat:
is fake scp 3812 negs diff
@@Zormdall SCP is fodder lmao
@@BOLONEISGOOFYSPACEWIZARD ok kids
Bro bill cipher SCP canon solos SCP 3812
@@BOLONEISGOOFYSPACEWIZARDSCP-999:
I hate to admit but he is right
you guys know bill cipher is more powerful than sap-3812 watch gravity falls and you will see this
scp atom is enough 💀
@@Zormdwithout cosmology the atom doesnt reach human level
Is scaling debatable?
Are you serious? Scp-3812 defeated scp-2747 and surpassed scp-5999 and scp-5500, which could kill the author just by manifesting it, and his author was completely powerless against him. Scp-3812 is easily boundless, but bill is only 1-B
scp-3812 one taps this overrated dorito
Bill max one galaxy and scp 3812 max one univers😊
👌🤐 vs ⚠️
seria un empate ya que los 2 son seres muy poderosos pero bill es capas de destruir la galaxia y no solo la galaxia el universo y ademas si bill chiper tubiera el podel de viajar por el multiverso un ejemplo podria destruirlo
what english?
scp 3812 destroy narrative infinite 💀
is scp atom bill cipher victim lol
Wait..Bill with barrier or without? Also idk this scp
SCP 3812 is one of the most strongest SCP
Bull is Scp 3812s dorito
Bill is Scp 3812s dorito
And SCP 3812 is ant compared to bill cipher (SCP CANON)
@@laxmikadam174Proof?
Bill cipher SCP canon destroyed 99% of SCP and destroyed the tree of knowledge
@@laxmikadam174🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡💀💀💀💀
Never happen bc bill cipher scp isnt real so go cry
Bill cipher🤝Scp-3812
More like Scp 3812 >>>>>>>>>> fodder cipher
But bill scp canon gives Scp-3812 a slap
scp canon bill cipher didn't exst@@TheLegendCipher
@user-kd2em1iu4c if there is ._.
are you joking 😑@@TheLegendCipher
billin barier halini yenebilcek bir sürü karakter sayabilirim mesela scp3812 ama bariersiz halini yenecek çok az karakter var
Who can beat bill without barrier
În cartoon verse
1.adventure time more then 20 characters
With the scp 3812 debunk, and the scp verse debunk, Bill negs
joke?
SCP atoms are still High Outer-Boundless, and there was no debunk.
What debunk lol, there's none. If you're talking about Sefiros, that's a completey different scp and only one scp. The scps are still strong lol.
@@Zormdlike you
@@1_Potatogodwhen you 5 year old be like:
W
Debunk:I simply don't exist