There was this special helmet in World that made monsters not attack you if you don't draw your weapon, right? Now hear me out: What if it was a fedora, that only appears when the Player has their weapons drawn?
@@foxmask8032 They have a huge beak and honnestly remind me more of an otter mixed with a duck than an rodent but regardless...i wouls say they look more like 20-25% like a duck while the wyvernian barely have anything remotely looking like they are lizard beside weird foots.
@@George_Gogo01 I was thinking about beavers, but otters work too. Also, you're gonna have to point me towards the humans that have long pointy ears and only four fingers. Edit: Also their eyes glow in the dark. But that might just be the two of them in particular.
@@foxmask8032as said said: degenerated internet community. todays people stopped using brains cuz of braindead trust to someone drops a statemenment and they just think yep thats right.
True but then why doesnt the wyverian man in the concept art have a belly button, or none of the wyverians show their stomach at all? Capcom is hiding the truth
My theory: the wyverians would definitely be on the monotreme clade and judging on their feet their ancestors must resemble a “lizard dog foot, hominid with pointy ears”. And they convergently evolved into a human like beings during their version of the ice age.
@@anfunifr3nzy610 anyway, no matter they’re stem mammal or not, they definitely evolved into human like beings before humans does. I wonder if the evolution had already happened during wyverians lifetime since they can live for hundreds of years.
From a biological standpoint, if they look human ore is possibly humanoid, there's a high possibility that it's a mammal, but hell, the MH vers is weird
@@limaliw3508 it can’t be a reptile with mammary glands because that's what a mammal is, if it has mammary glands it's a mammal. The question is between them being a mammal that gives birth or that lays eggs (or maybe they're ovoviviparous, or are repriles and their breasts are just evolutionary convergence and are just lumps of fat with no other use). As a biology student, it's fun to speculate
Alright, so it appears MHST2 isn’t acknowledged here, but… the chief from Hakolo Island is a wyverian from what I know of, and guess what, he’s showing his belly, and yes… HE HAS A BELLY BUTTON (barely seeable but he has one)
To be fair, animals that hatch from eggs also have an umbilical cord, it's just linked to the vitellus, a nutrient reserve in the egg, not to the mother. So even oviparous animals can potentially have a bellybutton if their integuments allows it.
@@andrewowens4421 If I remember correctly, we do have the fossil of Psittacosaurus showing a little scar where an umbilical cord was attached before hatching, it's indeed faint, but it's there, and it's a dinosaur covered in scales (minus the quills on its tail, of course), so a smoth-skinned Wyverian could possibly have one as well.
My Headcanon: They're already rather strange in certain ways so both laying eggs yet producing milk are fine, especially compared to certain monsters with EXTREMELY weird bits of their anatomy.
Pretty sure the human features out way the wyvern ones. Probably a situation similar to humans and elves. No one questions if it would be possible for them to breed they assume it’s really cause of how similar they are. I assume it’s the same with wyverians
In Dragon Half it was simple. Human father, dragon mother. They marry, they cuddle, dragon lays egg, protag gets born. Dragons can take human shape in the universe btw. Though it's unclear whether protag can take dragon form. She looks like a hybrid and she's already very OP as is.
Trchnically Platypuses and Echidnas laying eggs is the "hardware" all mammals were running on back in the day, I don't remember when exactly did birth giving come around in mammals but Platypuses existing is like seeing a WWI (not WWII, WWI) veteran today in my opinion
Even if they had bellybuttons that wouldn't solve anything, as most birds and reptiles also have bellybuttons from where the yolk was attached but you can't see them easily due to feathers or scales covering them.
@@diegomontiel2088 OK, I didn't know that the pangolin is one, too! 😮 And I totally missed that they discovered another one! That's awesome, thanks for letting me know!
There are 2 living animal groups that lay eggs, platypuses and echidnas (note this does not make wyverians monotremes, as they’re probably something wholely unique or they’re related to Wyverns, considering their growth and structures, despite they convergence with humans) . I personally think that wyverians do indeed lay eggs, mainly because in universe there would be no reason for that to be a joke unless it was either genuinely a possibility, if not exaggerated, or that it was an idiom of sorts that changed over time, the prior I find more likely.
"B-But I can't paint! And I definitely can't paint in front of people! I'd LAY AN EGG!!" --- Minoto, Hub Maiden of Kamura Village after the Fierce flame of Kamura saved the kingdom.
Just so you know, reptiles also have bellybuttons. That's where the yolk connects with the embryo in the egg. These bellybuttons just tend to get covered by scales or are lost through shedding. And milk is just a substitute to not fully developed children being born. Which can also happen with egg laying animals such as birds. And some birds produce milk too.
Capcom's never going to tell us, and I suspect if the question ever comes up in-game, the Wyverian being asked will probably say something along the lines of "How rude of you to ask that!"
@@keroro407 probably, I myself did make some concept art awhile back. I called them Hurains, look human, but the only difference is that ears are a little bit sharp, have unique claws, a powerful sense of smell, and a better set of eyes great vision Stronger, faster, and more agile. Oh, and long life like a wyverian but age slow like a human. Just like a Dunedain from LOTR.
@@keroro407 i don't think you understand just how long wyverian lives are. Any wyverian woman you date would've been old enough to know you're grandfather as a baby, and they would have looked the same!
I like to think that human in the past, past as in those who constructed the tower in which we can find kushala shell, fight lunastra and white Fatalis in mhfu, and potentially create equal dragon weapon, create dragon and wyvern just because they can, until some think of other stuff they can do with it, and make wyvern in the body of a human
Maybe the wyverians are hybrid of human and elder dragons that will eventually turn back to dragon form to give birth (immediate birth or egg depends on species of elder dragons)
MH community hits different when we are all in -between periods of Generations of games. But that gap between Gen 5 and Gen 6 is the Wildest in all of MH history😂😂
iirc, there are actually TWO species that both have mammary glands and lay eggs, the platypus and the Echidna, both part of the Monotremes. And more specifically, those are the only two KNOWN and EXTANT species that do so. There are any number of other organisms pre-placental mammalian ancestry that likely did both as well, we just don't know for sure because defined and developed 'breasts' like humans have are relatively rare among mammals, and no form of mammary gland really leaves much evidence in the fossil record(best would be if we found impressions of nipples, but even that's super unlikely to find because of the combination of circumstances) And egg-laying doesn't leave a whole lot of evidence beyond the rare chance of the eggs themselves and iirc certain traits in the pubic bones of the organism. It could even be that wyverians being a species both with apparent mammary glands as well as laying eggs is an example of convergent evolution; similar traits developing independently in multiple species to fill a similar niche. Or it could be an example of mimicry, where a species develops a similar appearance to another species, usually for camoflage or to take advantage of that species doing its own thing. Like some species of snake that take a similar coloration to a highly venomous snake in that same area to ward off predators. in that case, it'd likely be to either take advantage of other species fear of humans, or even to be able to co-mingle WITH humans and take advantage of human's highly social nature. For example, to aid in and take advantage of safety in numbers
For all we know, a Wyverian may lay eggs, but it's all rubbery like a snake egg, and when the baby grows big enough, it shreds it's way out of the egg. Just pitching a biology thing and see if it hits.
Happy Easter everyone 😌❤️
There was this special helmet in World that made monsters not attack you if you don't draw your weapon, right? Now hear me out:
What if it was a fedora, that only appears when the Player has their weapons drawn?
Oh no I hate what you did there -._-.
@@bussy-slayer 😏
But if there platipuss that would there mammals not reptilian
Jesus loves you~
The community must've inhaled too many of the Rotten Vale's fumes to have come up with that.
It was... wild LMAO
@@SkojSkullno way the whole community foreshadowed the title of the first game of 6th Gen and they did in the Wildest way lol
High on effluvian. Effluvian. Not even once.
It smells like my nightmares
Yeah thats true.
"This Question Came out of nowhere in 2021"
Totally unprompted. Totally had nothing to do with a pair of Wyverian twins that everybody thirsted over
The hunter committing heinous acts by blowing Hinoa a kiss.
"Don't tell Minoto about this"
@@TheUnseenKrab *furiously sharpens my gun-spear*
bruh platypuses don't even have breasts,those guys just straight up sweat milk
That definitely was not the connection I was trying to make 😂😂
Would you drink sweated milk from Hinoa & Minoto?
@@stargrazt1159I could always make an exception
@@stargrazt1159ayo wt-
@@stargrazt1159yes
Wyvernians: "Look 95% human,5% lizard"
The whole degenerate internet: "They OBVIOUSLY lay egg!"
I mean is not really a bad question
Well hey platypuses look 95% like a rodent and 5% like a duck and yet they still lay eggs.
@@foxmask8032 They have a huge beak and honnestly remind me more of an otter mixed with a duck than an rodent but regardless...i wouls say they look more like 20-25% like a duck while the wyvernian barely have anything remotely looking like they are lizard beside weird foots.
@@George_Gogo01 I was thinking about beavers, but otters work too. Also, you're gonna have to point me towards the humans that have long pointy ears and only four fingers.
Edit: Also their eyes glow in the dark. But that might just be the two of them in particular.
@@foxmask8032as said said: degenerated internet community.
todays people stopped using brains cuz of braindead trust to someone drops a statemenment and they just think yep thats right.
A lot of people seem to forget that certain species of reptiles have live births, so that's something to consider
True but then why doesnt the wyverian man in the concept art have a belly button, or none of the wyverians show their stomach at all? Capcom is hiding the truth
@@strider7198 capcom*
@@strider7198 You mean Capcom
@@MacDonellCashRicher yeah, my bad
Monster: a wyvernian?
Wyvernian: *puts on fedora*
Monster: PERRY THE WYVERNIAN!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Perrrrryyyyyy🎶🎵🎶
@@Mr.IceCoal612 i think "Wendy the Wyvernian" fits more
@@christianmartinez2321 you're right lol.
SHE'S WENDYY!!
WENDY THE PLATYPUS!!
Why did this just pop up for me now? I don't need to relive this again 😂
LMAO
Athal ka: A Monster hunter?
Wyverian: *equips fedora*
Athal Ka: PERRY THE MONSTER HUNTER
LMAO YES 😂
I love the idea of athal ka talking like doof
@@MrWood-uy3xhand it does build things you end up destroying... Kinda like... An Inator perhaps?
@@yamato9753 BEHOLD, THE MECHA-INATOR!!!
"Behold, Perry the monster hunter: My Elder-Dragon-Inator!"
My theory: the wyverians would definitely be on the monotreme clade and judging on their feet their ancestors must resemble a “lizard dog foot, hominid with pointy ears”. And they convergently evolved into a human like beings during their version of the ice age.
That way they shouldn't have breasts, or separate reproductive organs either
Does the wyverians look like a goblin during ice age (the lizard dog foot creature)
Stem-mammals?
@@anfunifr3nzy610 anyway, no matter they’re stem mammal or not, they definitely evolved into human like beings before humans does.
I wonder if the evolution had already happened during wyverians lifetime since they can live for hundreds of years.
From a biological standpoint, if they look human ore is possibly humanoid, there's a high possibility that it's a mammal, but hell, the MH vers is weird
from a biological standpoint, as convergent evolution is a thing, there is an equally high possibility that they are reptiles.
Some mammals still lay eggs
@@chaledy8998 that's not the real issue tho it's between "mammal that lay egg" or "reptile with mammary gland"
@@limaliw3508 it can’t be a reptile with mammary glands because that's what a mammal is, if it has mammary glands it's a mammal. The question is between them being a mammal that gives birth or that lays eggs (or maybe they're ovoviviparous, or are repriles and their breasts are just evolutionary convergence and are just lumps of fat with no other use). As a biology student, it's fun to speculate
Its an alternate world, its not ours its just how things evolved to be less seperated.
Alright, so it appears MHST2 isn’t acknowledged here, but… the chief from Hakolo Island is a wyverian from what I know of, and guess what, he’s showing his belly, and yes… HE HAS A BELLY BUTTON (barely seeable but he has one)
So we're Good? No unnatural and disturbing egg laying from the hot women? Hell yeah!
It's possible for animals born from eggs to have a belly button, the umbilical cord still exists, just inside the egg
@@chaledy8998 huh, I wasn't aware of such fact, so that makes the debate still open
To be fair, animals that hatch from eggs also have an umbilical cord, it's just linked to the vitellus, a nutrient reserve in the egg, not to the mother. So even oviparous animals can potentially have a bellybutton if their integuments allows it.
It just wouldn't be as pronounced as it is with mammalian creatures but it theoretically could exist.
@@andrewowens4421 If I remember correctly, we do have the fossil of Psittacosaurus showing a little scar where an umbilical cord was attached before hatching, it's indeed faint, but it's there, and it's a dinosaur covered in scales (minus the quills on its tail, of course), so a smoth-skinned Wyverian could possibly have one as well.
Given that all animals of this world descended from wyverns it makes sense. Btw humans in this world are of alien descend lorewise (basically isekai)
The original bard, wielder of the hunting horn. Man created the entire human population out of horniness.
Well, Fanged Beasts are genuine mammals
It's just that they may or may not be the mammalian lineage that gave rise to humanity on the planet
Hinoa and Minoto making me act unwise
the one's who got the idea were the ones who have an egg laying wyverian fetish and want to see hinoa/minoto lay some eggs. change my mind.
I mean you're not wrong... But that doesn't mean I like the fact that you're right...
@@foxmask8032 This brings in mind another question: Do Hinoa and Minoto have cloacas? (I'll see myself out)
Based
i mean who wouldn't wanna see that?
stop kink shaming
"Platypus are the only animals to make eggs and milk!"
Knuckles: **cries in echidna**
"which makes Wyverians a platypus!" Is the best out of context thing you can say in any conversation about mhr
😏So that means Hinoa and Minoto got that platapu-
*struck by a lance to the back*
I'm getting my local Shagaru Magala on the line to Wheel of Fate the hell out of you.
@@foxmask8032 neat. I'll buy some *SNACKS)))))))))))))))))))*
*loads heavy bowgun with religious intent*
"don't be afraid John" with a loaded holy bowgun
don't be surprised if a swarm of kinsects eat you alive one of these days
This just showed up in my feed and it's bringing back bad memories... thanks Skoj XD
Ya welcome 🫡
A wyverian? Perry the Wyverian?
P E R R Y T H E P L A T Y P U S ! ! !
That laying egg joke would be a pretty dirty and flirty joke if Wyverians do Lay Eggs. 😅😅😅
My Headcanon: They're already rather strange in certain ways so both laying eggs yet producing milk are fine, especially compared to certain monsters with EXTREMELY weird bits of their anatomy.
@@Master_E444 yeah honestly I feel people are overthinking it.
@@kylestanley7843 like if Nergigante can reproduce by essentially budding off special fertilized spikes, Wyverians can lay eggs
@@Master_E444 to be fair, most true Elder Dragons are borderline alien lifeforms that lies outside phylogenetic tree of life of the world
That ara ara did things to me.
The part about the ara ara caught me off gaurd
And here I thought I finally forgot all about this
“Laying an egg” is an expression for failing something and embarrassing yourself. She’s not literally admitting to laying eggs.
Pretty sure the human features out way the wyvern ones. Probably a situation similar to humans and elves. No one questions if it would be possible for them to breed they assume it’s really cause of how similar they are. I assume it’s the same with wyverians
Wyverians could be monotremes! But clearly Capcom is having a bit of fun teasing people about this obsession with how Wyverians have babies
Damn If they were reptiles, I would've sniffed what remains of Hinoa and minotos shed skin
Platypuses aren't the only egg laying mamals. Echidnas and platypuses are both monotremes (egg laying mamals) another weird win for Australia
In Dragon Half it was simple. Human father, dragon mother. They marry, they cuddle, dragon lays egg, protag gets born. Dragons can take human shape in the universe btw. Though it's unclear whether protag can take dragon form. She looks like a hybrid and she's already very OP as is.
When someone says they'd lay an egg, it usually means they would fail miserably.
Wow thats messed up 😂
This community is something LOL
Idk man, ducks and chickens in cartoons are prone to laying eggs out of surprise or fear
Are you saying that wyverians lay eggs but out of surprise or fear? 😂
@@SkojSkull yes
Trchnically Platypuses and Echidnas laying eggs is the "hardware" all mammals were running on back in the day, I don't remember when exactly did birth giving come around in mammals but Platypuses existing is like seeing a WWI (not WWII, WWI) veteran today in my opinion
Lahey falling down the stairs never gets old
Even if they had bellybuttons that wouldn't solve anything, as most birds and reptiles also have bellybuttons from where the yolk was attached but you can't see them easily due to feathers or scales covering them.
Platypus are not the only egglaying mammals there is also the echidna who does the same
And pangolin (don't know how it's called in English)
@@diegomontiel2088 same thing, tho some call them scaly anteaters apparently
@@diegomontiel2088Pangolins are Placental contrary to their scaly appearance
To be exact, their closest extant relatives are the Carnivoran mammals
Doesn’t the hub maiden lay eggs randomly that’s why you hear her scream in pain sometimes
I want a game where you can choose to hunt as either a human or wyvernian
“Hm Wonder who put those wyvern egg at the 11 area in the shrines”
Me-
Actually, there are two animals who lay eggs and give milk. The platypus and the Echidna.
There's a bit more, one is the pangolin, and there was one more discovered recently, tho it was just another kind of equidna-like creature
@@diegomontiel2088 OK, I didn't know that the pangolin is one, too! 😮
And I totally missed that they discovered another one!
That's awesome, thanks for letting me know!
Does this mean they also have venomous spurs?
Maybe lol
Possibly as a defense mechanism.
After watching a lot of Wyvern breeding Ark. Bruh, Wyverns do infact produce freaking Milk.
Being part of the community was CRAZY when this was happening. Everyone lost their damn minds
There are therapsid-like monsters in MH. Wyverians being descended from a Fanged Wyvern makes perfect sense too
Wyverians are now platypuses to me forevermore. Thank you.
KAKYOIN DID YOU LAY THIS EGG
That might answer the question of why there are no human-wyverian hybrids
It’s not just the platypus that can do both. In fact there is an entire order of mammals called monotremes which can both lay eggs and produce milk
Also though pigeons don't lactate per se , they do produce something similar
I have layed an Egg. - Bortus
There are 2 living animal groups that lay eggs, platypuses and echidnas (note this does not make wyverians monotremes, as they’re probably something wholely unique or they’re related to Wyverns, considering their growth and structures, despite they convergence with humans) . I personally think that wyverians do indeed lay eggs, mainly because in universe there would be no reason for that to be a joke unless it was either genuinely a possibility, if not exaggerated, or that it was an idiom of sorts that changed over time, the prior I find more likely.
"B-But I can't paint! And I definitely can't paint in front of people! I'd LAY AN EGG!!" --- Minoto, Hub Maiden of Kamura Village after the Fierce flame of Kamura saved the kingdom.
Monotreme Wyverians! That wasn't on my monster hunter conspiracy bingo card.
Would. Next question.
The Kafka theme in the background?
PERRY THE WYVERIAN PLATYPUS!??!?!?!
Some weird human wyvern hybric is basically a weird hybrid of multiple animals? Makes sense tbh
Just so you know, reptiles also have bellybuttons. That's where the yolk connects with the embryo in the egg. These bellybuttons just tend to get covered by scales or are lost through shedding.
And milk is just a substitute to not fully developed children being born. Which can also happen with egg laying animals such as birds. And some birds produce milk too.
I've seen concept art for a Wyverian character from Monster Hunter Stories 2 that had a bellybutton.
Capcom's never going to tell us, and I suspect if the question ever comes up in-game, the Wyverian being asked will probably say something along the lines of "How rude of you to ask that!"
Smash, You can't change my Mind
I now need to see those two with a secret agent hat on!
Really late, but birds and reptiles have belly buttons when they're young. Even snakes. They just fade as they get older
in monster hunter world the rathalos has a egg nest that you can take from at the top part of the ancient forest
i did not notice it said wyverians and not wyverns
What about a hybrid between human and wyverian? Is there any records of a hybrid?
I'm not sure tbh 😅
@@SkojSkull it is like the dunedain. Might make a story of that one day.
Probably if a human and a wyverian copulates, their children will either be a human or a wyverian, but no hybrids.
@@keroro407 probably, I myself did make some concept art awhile back. I called them Hurains, look human, but the only difference is that ears are a little bit sharp, have unique claws, a powerful sense of smell, and a better set of eyes great vision Stronger, faster, and more agile. Oh, and long life like a wyverian but age slow like a human. Just like a Dunedain from LOTR.
@@keroro407 i don't think you understand just how long wyverian lives are. Any wyverian woman you date would've been old enough to know you're grandfather as a baby, and they would have looked the same!
Finally, an answer to the age-old question. 😂
I like to think that human in the past, past as in those who constructed the tower in which we can find kushala shell, fight lunastra and white Fatalis in mhfu, and potentially create equal dragon weapon, create dragon and wyvern just because they can, until some think of other stuff they can do with it, and make wyvern in the body of a human
Echidna. Echidna lays eggs.
Maybe the wyverians are hybrid of human and elder dragons that will eventually turn back to dragon form to give birth (immediate birth or egg depends on species of elder dragons)
To me, Hinoa's line in Sunbreak is the only evidence I need. EGGS!!!
Now why the FUCK did youtube throw this on my homepage again after nearly forgetting about this
MH community hits different when we are all in -between periods of Generations of games. But that gap between Gen 5 and Gen 6 is the Wildest in all of MH history😂😂
This is interesting, while my brain still racking the theory 😂
Who said the breasts are infants?
Me: *Sweats profusely*
I think it's like chameleons, they lay eggs that immediately harch
I mean monster hunter stories has almost every single creature come out of eggs so I wouldn’t doubt it
iirc, there are actually TWO species that both have mammary glands and lay eggs, the platypus and the Echidna, both part of the Monotremes. And more specifically, those are the only two KNOWN and EXTANT species that do so.
There are any number of other organisms pre-placental mammalian ancestry that likely did both as well, we just don't know for sure because defined and developed 'breasts' like humans have are relatively rare among mammals, and no form of mammary gland really leaves much evidence in the fossil record(best would be if we found impressions of nipples, but even that's super unlikely to find because of the combination of circumstances) And egg-laying doesn't leave a whole lot of evidence beyond the rare chance of the eggs themselves and iirc certain traits in the pubic bones of the organism.
It could even be that wyverians being a species both with apparent mammary glands as well as laying eggs is an example of convergent evolution; similar traits developing independently in multiple species to fill a similar niche.
Or it could be an example of mimicry, where a species develops a similar appearance to another species, usually for camoflage or to take advantage of that species doing its own thing. Like some species of snake that take a similar coloration to a highly venomous snake in that same area to ward off predators.
in that case, it'd likely be to either take advantage of other species fear of humans, or even to be able to co-mingle WITH humans and take advantage of human's highly social nature. For example, to aid in and take advantage of safety in numbers
Perhaps they also use a cloaca. One hole to rule them all!
Christ, Yall been hit too hard by Bazelgeuse's bombing runs
Someone was on one too many nitroshrooms when they came up with that
Technically this makes Wyverians Monotremes. Thats the class of animal that the platypus belongs to where they're mammals that lay eggs
Echidnas do as well! They're monotremes
I volunteer to test it out
If Wyverians are platypus's, why aren;t they teal?
No question comes out from nowhere
Best ways to know IS to try💀
The friendly hunter from the little boat.
My man! 😏🤜🤛💀
My boy👇👆@@Diablos43
Someone's been sniffing too many tranq bombs 😂
no, this came up in mh discord servers for years before this
if they lay eggs, they must do number 1 and 2 using the same hole
Why did she said "ara ara" like that... man I got lucky i was alone, my sound was almost at max! 💀
For all we know, a Wyverian may lay eggs, but it's all rubbery like a snake egg, and when the baby grows big enough, it shreds it's way out of the egg. Just pitching a biology thing and see if it hits.
Do Wyverians lay eggs? ...in the words of Bayformers Optimus Prime; "Time to find out" **sick battle mask clangs shut**
Am i the only one seeing them as Monster Hunter version of elfs?
MY LIFE WAS A LIE!!! To be fr tho I thought these buggers were Monster Hunter version of an Elf lol
We need a wyverian named Perry
I just spoiled whole Rise to myself
LMAO, that event was rather fun