@@taintlessproductions basically same thing happening with trumps legal case in Florida as well. Stolen documents case. Judge Cannon was appointed by Trump. Delayed the trial and eventually threw it out without enough time to appeal before the end of this year. That documents case would prove trump is committing treason with those stolen documents.
Bush Jr's foreign policy was unremarkable before 9/11. He was completely out of his depth following this and allowed the "'neocon"' think tanks to take control of the country.
If the stolen election makes you angry, and you live in a 2024 swing state or Nebraska, contact your elected state legislators, and anyone else in charge of the election process in your state, and tell them to stop making changes days before the election.
Hey! As a professional IT guy in 90s Y2K was not a dumb thing to be afraid of! If we didn't work our butts off for two years making sure things went smoothly people could have literally died! Society wouldn't have collapsed, but if we didn't get all the ventilators, auto-pilot systems, and traffic light control panels updated things would have been rough.
Yeah, the stupid hype of it overshadowed the fact it was actually a legit problem, and that the only reason it didn't cause problems was that work got done to fix the issues.
And we have similar problem incoming at 2038. Still plenty time to go and people are already preparing for it. Not to mention many old affected systems are likely gone at that point so it's even less of a problem. But it is going to be huge problem for anyone not prepared. Bigger than y2k was as it literally makes many databases and files not functional. On top of that there are a lot of devices around the world that will not survive it. They are practically unfixable.
And there was still a TON of computer errors that happened, Wikipedia has a long list. In the UK a Y2K bug led to over 100 mothers receiving incorrect Down syndrome risk assessments reports, and two of those women subsequently opted for abortion.
So uhh... Now what? As someone not from the US, I'm honestly scared for the entire world. Climate change doesn't affect a single country, what's gonna happen the next 4 years will have unprecedented consequences for the climate. How could people in America do this?
1. The right's war on public education has paid off big time. Trump gained votes from non-college educated voters and uneducated male youth. Dems gained votes from wealthier voters with degrees. That's the minority. 2. AIPAC sunk millions into Trumps campaign and went harder than Harris in key states. Uneducated people are the best ad targets because they lack critical thinking skills and simple messaging resonates. 3. There are more Americans who care more about gas being affordable (which Trump promised his supporters) than there are Americans with enough foresight to realize that our liveable future on Earth is contingent on immediately phasing out fossil fuels and investing in renewable energy.
US citizen here, who voted for Kamala. I completely agree and am wondering the same thing! It's discouraging, disappointing, confusing, and embarrassing that apparently over half our population are morons. I am also worried about how this will negatively impact the environment worldwide and several other issues!
Bush was probably the worst thing that could have happened to the world as a whole, yes, even worse than Trump, because Bush was the worst kind of competent.
I don’t think it would be so different, maybe certain wars delayed by 4 years but not avoided. George bush was dumb and that was embarrassing for Americans but policy wise he was a conservative populist and those where always gonna thrive in the aftermath of 9/11
Literally no Iraq war, no child left behind, no patriot act, Afghanistan war would have been more limited, climate change would have been a priority, closer to universal healthcare, and on and on and on. It is so depressing.
This same thing happened in Ohio (where I live) in 2004. I was part of an effort to collect affidavits all throughout the state and sue for a recount (which we got). Exit polls showed Kerry with a 5% lead over Bush… well over margin of error. The average wait to vote for someone living in the inner city in Ohio was 2.5 hours, while the average suburban voter wait was 15 min. I was the third person in line on election day in my inner city neighborhood, and I had a 35 min wait to vote. They had more voting machines during the primary than during the general election, and they made people stand outside to wait (and it was pouring down rain that day). And yet, people waited! The part that was extra corrupt was that Kenneth Blackwell (then Republican Secretary of State in Ohio) combined precincts, so people waited for 2.5 hours only to find out they were in the wrong line and were given a choice to either vote provisionally or go back and wait for 2.5 more hours. People, of course, voted provisionally, and Kerry conceded the election before provisional ballots were counted, even though there were enough to swing the election his way and take the presidency. People also stated in public hearings and signed affidavits that their vote switched when they pressed Kerry. No paper receipts existed at the time (electronic only), so the recount just spit out the same numbers. As part of our legal efforts, Ohio now has a paper receipt, but it’s only a half measure to a much more corrupt effort.
Registering to vote is so crazy to me. I get a pass sent automatically to vote. The government can find me during tax time - it sure as hell can find me in an election year.
@@bedtimeat8but what happens if the organized crime steal and burn the ballots of entire municipalities? Or is that something that only happens in my magical country? 🇲🇽 🤔
@@bedtimeat8in Australia can you vote atleast no or third party? If not id take the fine over two people i dont support personally. Thats coming from an American who has not voted in the last two election because i dont like either pick. Thought this election its just voting against Trump
@@michaelfiori6700 We have preferential voting. You vote for whoever you want (by ranking the candidates) and your preference always flows to your next preferred candidate, which means you can effectively vote third-party without having your vote count for nothing if they lose. If you don't want to participate at all (little reason to do this), you just don't put anything on your ballot, or deface it in whatever creative way you choose.
Yep, and I'm sure whatever private entities take over large scale weather forecasting and monitoring once the NOAA is dismantled (something project 2025 explicitly says they plan to do) will make a seamless and safe transition because they're already prepared or close to it. It absolutely wouldn't bite air or ocean travel (private and commercial, on all levels from local to international) in the butt pretty much immediately.
What predictuon came true? They actually had to drop "global warming" because it wasnt happening. Florida had a tame year for hurricanes? Climate change. Active year? Climate change. Venezuelan gangs taking over cities? Climate change. If the left is one thing, its gullible.
It's not denying climate change that's going to bite anybody in the ass, it's the confidence that we will do anything to halt climate change that's going to bite us all in the ass.
Kinda depressing that the current goal is to win by overwhelming numbers so it can't be denied as easily. And thats for someone that in reality isn't guaranteed to take action. If only we had real leaders who were serious about taking action and a reasonable voting system.
1:55 The idea that Y2K was actually no big deal is a myth. Lots of engineers put in a lot of thankless effort into making sure that Y2K bugs were fixed before they disrupted systems, including critical infrastructure.
Fun thing is it still causes problems. Some of the fixes were meant to fix it for a short time still cause problems every now and then in old systems still running. Now do those times [all systems almost everywhere] and you get to the billions of dollars spend on fixing it being a good idea. Also: 03:14:07 Tuesday, 19 January 2038 is the next problem as it's the end of the 32bit unix epoch time (which looks very likely to be fixed by then since it's not the first rodeo).
1 not it wasnt at least not the the apocalíptic levels people were spouting about planes falling from the sky and such and 2 it could have been avoided if companies used machines from the last decade instead of 20+ year old infrastructure
For a little debunking of the debunking, this also isn't quite right - while there was a huge amount of effort in *some* countries to fix things (e.g. US), there was significantly less in others (e.g. Japan) that still didn't have major issues.
@@DarkTwinge Living in Japan I can assure it's because in 1999 they barely even had the olde-timey systems from this video. Several city governments finally ditched floppy disks because of the pandemic. I'm currently in the process of replacing an IBM i-Series system that runs 100% of the business of my life insurance employer and I honestly have no idea if the company will be able to get off its successor platforms in my working lifetime. I'm 53.
Yeah was going to say the same, Y2K wasn't a big deal in the same way that traveling in an airplane is really safe. A lot of people put a lot of effort into making it that way
One additional note on voting: there's a lot more than the presidential election, and despite them not getting any national attention, your local elected officials control a LOT. Zoning, transit, roads, schools, and the police, just to name a few. And even if you're in a state where your vote "doesn't matter" at the presidential level, your vote matters in the downballot races.
So. Much. This. I'd upvote it multiple times if I could. If anyone reading this doesn't care about your local elections, take ten minutes to look up your local ballot for this fall and google "[candidate name] platform 2024" for a couple of the candidates. Look for articles from your local news websites, they tend to have a good summary of key points about everyone running. And it's less showy fluff to dig through compared to looking at the candidates' websites directly. On the last midterm election I looked up the platforms of two candidates running for a city school board slot to see what their positions were. When asked how they'd reduce violence in schools, one of them said they wanted to increase extracurricular resources and student mental health/therapy options. The other candidate wanted to increase armed police presence on campuses and install more metal detectors. You might be surprised to find out you DO have opinions about who does those jobs after all.
THIS: parents of kids in area schools are BEGGING for passage of a bond to pay for school repair/upgrade. In part because Texas doesn’t believe in taxing enough to pay for schools…
Well of course but if you can’t get people to vote during the Presidential election they MOST DEFINITELY will not show up for the local government stuff.
@@paulregener7016 As someone who was a secretary for a local party and helped in running candidates at the local level, I assure you it is far easier than you think to convince people to vote for city officials. A large part of this is because city voting has extremely low turn out, so if you get any ground work done you'll typically be able to take on the incumbent who has the same diminishing population coming in time and time again. You don't need everyone to vote, you just need more people voting than the last guy. And the beautiful thing is that city policy is immediate, direct, and tangible in a person's life.
@@benevolentworldexploder5395 Hmm you must live in perfect precinct 101 my general area barely wants to learn to speak English let alone vote correctly in the local government hearings or even vote at all
Leaving a comment to boost engagement for the algorithm, mainly cause I'm getting physically ill and have to leave early. I'll finish watching this when I'm angry again.
I am old. I was living in Florida at the time. I had forgotten some of the details but now remember just how angry I was. Thanks for the message on the importance of voting.
HAIL TO THE THIEF - Radiohead named their 2003 album after this election. It is still one of my favorite albums for its political takes, here in America 2+2 always makes a 5.
PLEASE I was listening to Ful Stop while browsing the comments here, this threw me for a loop for a sec, I thought I mixed up the comment sections 😂 bless you
Wow. Guess it shouldn't be that surprising that I didn't know all those details about the election in 2000 considering I was only 11 years old, but... damn. Simultaneously glad that I now know and absolutely livid about what happened.
As a European, all I knew about Al Gore is that he won the popular vote by a mile... and meanbearpig. Had no idea about all of this but it's genuinely mind blowing how something like this can happen in a country that calls itself democratic.
It's truly a republic. Self-manifested parties decide what to do with our votes. It's not until we have a major technological breakthrough to count the vote of all 400M+ individuals that we could move closer to a democracy... oh wait we all have quad core cell phones in our pockets that scan our fingerprints everytime we touch the screen. It's almost like we could have been doing this since at least 2008 with the first Iphone...? Weird. Seems like some groups of people want to stay in control and make 400M sound like a big number but I just ran a python script to count to a billion and it ran in 0.025s. We are not technology limited. We are limited by a cultural mindset.
Unfortunately that's just it, we're NOT a democracy, we have elements OF a democracy which make us demo-cratic. We're mainly a republic. We just vote to make our opinions known, and then someone else votes *for us.* It's pretty dumb in the modern age, but it helps to remember our history and relations. We're not a country, we're a union. Like the EU, our individual "countries" each have their own interests. The Electoral College (EC) was created at our foundation mainly to solve two issues - small states worried they'd have their issues ignored and votes overruled by larger states, and mail. With horseback being the best intercontinental mode of transport, counting votes and bringing an answer was less guaranteed then sending a whole guy to "deliver" the vote, so the EC was meant to fix both issues. Fast forward 2 centuries and 37 more states and uhhh it doesn't really make sense anymore, especially when individual states use their EC votes differently. Some states are all or nothing - if a simple majority of the state votes for 1 person then the *entire* state is considered as voting for that person. Tl;Dr Not a democracy, just a republic union with democratic elements over 2 centuries old that we haven't fixed.
I’m old enough to remember all this and it’s still as infuriating now as it was then. Thanks @climateTown for ruining my day once again. I’m going to go drink now, see you next time!
As a computer programmer, I can say that Y2K was a real issue. Even after most major issues were fixed, there were still some bugs (credit processing, municipal systems going offline, etc..)
This is the biggest controversy that'll shake Climate Town right down to its bedrock. Seriously though, I do recall there being a large effort to mitigate the damage.
I've spoken with people who worked very hard across multiple months to ensure that Y2K was dealt with and didn't become a problem. It's weird to me that people are still under the assumption that it was a false concern just because we actually did something to address it. In that way it's kind of like the hole in the Ozone
Agreed! Y2K was a non-issue because people listened to experts and took the threat seriously & in time to mitigate it. If only there was another world threatening issue like this that we could apply our learnings to....
I genuinely wonder if we wouldn't have hit +2°C this year, you know? Like, did/will the supreme Court appointing Bush in 2000 cause the extinction of humanity? We may never know
I mean, better, but probably not as better as you may think. there are things that would have happened independent of the president elected. just look at how neither party seem to be willing to stop supporting Israel, democrats are still too far right. however, it definitely would have been better, just for the fact gore would have pushed the overton window much farter to the left, Bush was probably one of the worst things to happen to the world as a whole, and yes, even worse than Trump, because Bush was the worst kind of competent.
A lot of people worked real hard to prevent Y2K from being worse than it was, which leads to the skewed perspective that it was a nothingburger. Although the bit was funny
I can't believe this voter system. I really hope you guys vote against the climate change denier and push for a better future! Best wishes from Berlin❤
I think pretending the 2010s never happened is really best for everyone. Most Millennials could say that they're ten years younger than they really are, and still look better than their parents did at their age. I'm 35. That's roughly how old the guys in Seinfeld were. I still think they look like they're in their fifties. Same goes for Sex and the City. Like, when the show started basically the whole cast was in their thirties. Almost all of them look about ten years older than they are to me. We could definitely strike the 2010s from the record and hardly anyone would notice.
I was 20 in the year 2000, and have lived in Europe all my life. I remember this election even though i wasn't very interested in foreign politics then. in Europe we mocked Bush for being stupid and we lamented missing the chance to see an American president who would act on climate change. I grew up learning about acid rain and I think i learnt about climate change in 1998 - 1999 more or less. it's been frustrating to see the power of big oil for so many years pushing back on the necessary changes.
Only an economist could look at a place where millions of people are starving because they can't afford food and say "The demand for food here is entirely satisified!"
@@iancolburn4054Stop doing acid. Late stage capitalism is fully supported by both parties but not protecting the people from the aggressive, immoral, and many times illegal business practices while giving ultra rich tax breaks is republicans and Dump's plans.
Economic growth doesn’t just represent the increasing extraction of resources. It also represents the elimination of waste and increasing efficiency of resource allocation. Even in a world where we limit resource depletion, economic growth is still important
The vast majority of economic growth comes from improved technology and know-how. A software engineer is paid well partly because it requires skill, but also because their code can make it onto millions of devices. This wasn't possible seventy years ago - and the tools available are improving all the time.
We wouldn’t have invaded Iraq, and there would be two fewer conservative judges on SCOTUS. Plus, we probably would’ve made a bit more progress on the whole climate change thing.
@@markevans8206 But the 2008 financial meltdown would probably have hit at the tail end of Gore’s second term (which I assume he’d win as the “rally around the flag” incumbent, just like Bush) and it would’ve been blamed primarily on Democrats. Thus, almost certainly no Obama presidency, but a GOP one fuelled by an angry protest vote.
probably not at all different since both parties are capitalist warmongers run by weapons mfgs and investment firms. kinda like how the G-Side will continue regardless of who wins the 2024 election - it simply does not matter since both parties are representative of the ruling class and protect the status quo of US imperialist global hegemony.
The entire world would be so different if Al Gore had been president. He invented the internet!! /s But really actually he would have been so much better for environmental policy. Edited to add: AMAZING production value and editing. Very funny. Love this.
Love the anti-doomer messaging. Both the Y2K bug and the repairing of the ozone hole were achieved with collective effort. We can avoid the disaster of climate change too, together.
How long have you been fighting for our planet earth? I started at 14 and I'll tell ya,I'm running out of energy. But also hope . 40 yrs is a long time to fight.
The sad part is that no one has any integrity. Democracy dies when the loser of an election refuses to lose... Just like 2000 it's again the Republican party that both says they cannot lose and is actively breaking state laws to make that true (just like they tried to do in 2020)...
I don't get it. Why don't we have Federal election standards? Like including standard ballots? Even MAGA should be for this. Elections are a mess in almost every state it seems.
Obviously politicians don't like to change things that are in their favour and as it happens, usually those in power happened to be favoured by the current system. Funny how that works...
I'm not even an US citizen, yet I wish this video would be plastered and put in the suggestions at least a couple of tines, for every person in the US that watches RUclips.
The crazy part is that the party currently in power is doing nothing to defend against the contents of Project 2025. The Heritage foundation is a gift to the democrats, to scare voters into voting for them. Of course they won't do anything about it now, and once they're in power, they'll continue to do nothing but make empty promises while never moving the needle left.
Make sure that all Gen Z and Millenials you know are made aware of how older voters keep the value of their real estate high by voting in much larger numbers. And then make sure that said younger voters are made aware of early voting and mandatory time off for the same, if 3 out of 10 non voting Dems show up, then that could help Harris this November
Why on God's name would we want Harris to win? Just because she's a Democrat doesn't mean she's good. Her and Joe Biden are literal war mongers and murderers.
If 1 out of 4 non voting registered voters in Texas all turned out and vote for Democrats, Texas would flip blue. I don't think apathetic non voters realize how easy it would be to end the GOP for good.
@@wertnog6379 Not true. Slightly more than half of youth vote blue, but to be fair, it's actually tightened in the last several elections. So it is trending more toward 50/50.
Rollie, thank you SO MUCH to you and the team behind Climate Town! You guys do such a tremendous job at addressing very real issues while making it thoroughly entertaining (and infuriating) to watch all at the same time. We appreciate all the work you guys do! Thanks for ruining my day, yet again lol. Love y'all 🫶🏽
@@Look_What_You_Didit would only be an issue in cases where a date was stored with two digits for the year... which it almost ever was. Even then it was still almost universal to store dates as Unix timestamps.
Yeah it's strange to see a climate advocacy person dismissing Y2K. Y2K is up there with the ozone layer in terms of massive collective action problems that we actually pulled off avoiding.
Y2K was actually not a dumb thing to be afraid of. Computers around the world would have crashed/broken, causing countless deaths and other calamities. The only reason that didn't happen is that the entire world galvanised and spent years and years fixing the problem before it occured. Experts spent years of their lives saving the world just for it to be remembered as a dumb thing to be scared of. If nobody was scared it wouldn't have been fixed. We're terrible as a species at learning lessons. Fitting this is a 2000 election video.
Do you know what's going to fry your noodle? Netflix is now older than Blockbuster was when it went bankrupt. Though that's mostly because Netflix is surprisingly old.
being the ripe age of 6 when the 2000 election went down, I had no idea how much of a disaster it actually was. I do remember there was commotion, but I had no idea it was all of that, shEESH
Yup, I Was 5 & This Video Gets Me Heated. Imagine All The Lives That Wouldn't Have Been Lost In Unnecessary Wars, Potentially Better Response Regarding 9/11, Climate Change Action/Prevention Policies & So Much More. It's Enraging & Depressing All At The Same Time.
I was 15 and I remembered stuff about hanging chads and re counts that went on... but I didn't recall the recounts weren't competed 😮 Then again, I grew up in an ultra conservative household where Gore was practically the devil so everyone around me was pulling for Bush and I'm guessing that injustice was just lost amidst everyone cheering for the Bush victory. It makes me feel pretty mad now though; I can't even imagine what we've lost and what a different course it's set us on for at least a generation.
I was raised conservative, so Gore's "recount the votes" thing was construed at the time as just him being a sore loser. Now come to find 24 years later he was right all along... I never want to hear another conservative whine about stolen elections again when they've been not only stealing them, but *suppressing* voters too.
In Australia we do this novel thing where we tick boxes on paper with pencil (to prevent disappearing ink etc) and then humans count them, twice - it isn't fucking complicated, what the hell are ya'll doing
@@AdmiralBison votes are always Saturdays. There's also early voting and postal votes. One consequence of voting being mandatory is that they have to make it as accessible as possible.
The problem is bad actors in government colluding to give themselves more power. It's like asking why north korea was having problems. Leadership is the issue and people organizing bottom up was the solution that could happen.
I was telling people about Al Gore just yesterday! And there's a Stop The Steal documentary on HBO. The big problem is when I tell people about Al Gore, they say - Who? So, young people.
The events of 2000 were memory holed by May 2001. After 11/9/2001 everyone decided to ignore the fact that Bush stole the election in a coup. By 2002 a romcom, 2 weeks notice, was able to feature a female lead who was a liberal lawyer and supposed Supreme Court groupie who recalls crying “the night Bush II was elected” and not mention any of this shit show. Don’t underestimate the US capacity for forgetting inconvenient truths. I also suspect that you haven’t heard much about the similar coup that put Rutherfraud Hayes into power after the civil war.
Climate science communicator saying y2k wasn't a biggie, when it's actually a perfect illustration of what can happen if you take a real, looming disaster with a deadline seriously, is......... certainly a choice
It is incredibly easy to look back and say we worried about nothing because it all turned out fine. We did it about the Cold War. I have no doubt that if we ever put this climate threat behind us, there will be many who will say the same. I know some who already downplay the hole in the ozone issue.
Y2K wasn't a dumb thing. It was totally real. The reason nothing happened is because every computer that mattered was replaced. If it wasn't fixed, it would have been a nightmare.
Yeah, but often not the solutions aren't given as much attention to the impending problems. The 80s/90s the "hole in the ozone layer" was a concern, but regulations quietly solved it. Making it seem as though the problem solved itself or worse... Was never a problem.
Yeah, I get all the shit mailed to me (voter pass and an unofficial copy of the candidate list) and then just hop into one of the like billion voting stations near me on the day of. Literally takes 1 minute.
You automatically get signed up to vote when you register with selective service. But that’s not automatic either so, maybe it’s for the best that the government doesn’t have the ability to automatically sign you up for things.
@@ArTht-y6h I didn't know what selective service was but after googling it, I found out you are required by law to register within 30 days after your 18th birthday... If you fail to register you are in violation of the law. That seems worse than automatic registration to me.
Oh yeah, I remember all this. But I was 25, had an amazing social life, and it was before 9/11 so life was awesome. Y2K was a non event due to the huge amount of work that was done prior to it happening.
@@lawnmowerdude no, it's that dates were stored with just the last two digits of the year with the logic assuming the start of any year was 19XX. Once the century flipped to 1-Jan-2000, computer systems would've thought the year was 1900. this is bad for checking if e.g. contracts/licenses had expired, whether automatic transfers would trigger, etc. The background setting of Office Space is about this, actually.
Y2K is what I compare climate change to. Because programmers worked their asses off to fix it, we didn't see much of an impact at all. Fallout 76 had an actual Y2K bug that caused every nuke ingame to be launched because the ingame timers were reset on new year.
@@lawnmowerdudei believe it would've just caused unpredictable glitches in all sorts of computer systems, which could've been very bad given their central role in society
lol wait, how is y2k like climate change? We haven't done anything to solve human caused climate change, in fact we've released more emissions every year. y2k was mostly fixed. climate change is already influencing disease spread/outbreaks, goods/food price increases, land loss from sea level rise, extreme weather events, etc.
Wait until you find out that this isn't actually how it works. Each state decides for themselves how it works, and some states DO give out the seats proportionally. Which is literally worse than choosing one or the other for everyone... the process isn't even consistent with itself.
I am still feeling very cynical about climate change policy. There was literally a point in the last debate where they were arguing over who liked fracking more.
I am not saying I was disappointed in climate town for “endorsing” either side. As @joshuaaornott438 pointed out he didn’t endorse anyone. I am just saying I feel cynical that there are two choices in the election and both sides at the moment have not expressed much interest in climate policy. I know Kamala has details on her website but, like most democrats, she appears to be afraid to say anything too extreme during an interview or debate. I am sure for good reason but again we are back to why I am cynical.
@@kylezo I mean I get it, you gotta pick someone in the election. I don’t think it is climate towns fault that it is difficult to pursue climate policy more aggressively 🤷♂️
Your comment is 3 days old, so you must have posted it on Thursday, 26th September 2024. Either you're super fast and just read the news about the Landtag of Thuringia eclat or you predicted just hours before that an unprecedented disturbance of German democracy has to be resolved by the state's court the very next day... either way impressive 😄
@@Blex_040 Well, I certainly read way to much news than is good for my mental well being, but even if I hadn't been aware of that situation, predicting, that something like that is going to happen soon is like predicting it's going to be monday next week.
Please don't do the Y2K thing like that. It didn't do the kind of damage warned about, because many thousands of programmers worked their asses off to fix things. And even then, several nuclear power plants still had serious glitches that were handled by workers watching extra carefully. It was a real disaster averted by hard work, and then downplayed precisely because it was averted. Much like the ozone hole.
I love this channel! It's a bit sad that I can't help in any way since I'm from Poland but I'm rooting for you guys because (unfortunately) what happens in the US affects not just the US but pretty much the entire world and our little country too. Things are not looking good here either and public opinion in Poland and Europe is definitely swaying against any climate action - I think in part because of the recent actions by groups like Just Stop Oil and The Last Generation which are achieving the exact opposite result to what they're supposedly set out to do. In fact this has me questioning whether or not those groups are actually working for the oil industry to discredit climate action in the eyes of the public - I wasn't able to find any proof of this though. Maybe an idea for your next video?
about y2k: the only reason it didn't cause major problems was because a bunch of software engineers and it people worked very hard (maybe the nuke stuff was an overreaction though) i can't believe we just moved on from the 2000 election though...
I've never understood the registration thing. Where I live you just walk to your designated voting place and vote with your national ID. Granted, it's a small country in comparison to the US, but I guess at a state scale it could work the same.
Depressing to see how this played out for the best ever climate-aware U.S. pres. candidate that I am aware of. Given Harris's supposed enthusiasm for fracking, what I worry about now is that people will continue to be lulled into complacency through the promise of incremental progress at a time when drastic action is needed so much faster. Is pushing Harris to a proper climate platform post-ascension to the office actually viable? Pro-Palestine protestors have not moved her position on her support for Israeli military armament, so what is it going to take for her campaign to stop slurping up oil-friendly policy?
I would like to think that it's too risky for the elections to publicly present a clear opinion on things like Palestine. So we don't actually have a choice but to try to affect her platform post-elections. Protests, strikes, everything is on the table after the elections. This is not about choosing a friend, it's about choosing the enemy. Who would you rather fight?
Based on the last 50 years, I have no faith that the democrats will actually do anything for the people here or abroad. I have 100% faith they will pretend to have our best interests in mind, but the conservative endorsements they are celebrating only shows the democrats of today are the republicans of Bush's era. The ratchet effect will not get us progressive policies on climate.
the only way to control representatives is to make them fear losing their power. The only way to influence Harris after her election is to campaign hard against her, organize a bloc of voters who *will not* vote for her if she runs for reelection without meeting their demands. If your vote is assured, candidates have no reason to listen to you. This doesn't mean a passive resistance and merely disapproving, but getting involved with local, regional, national organizations to connect with people and get them to stand behind not voting for "blue no matter who."
One weakness of the Pro-Palestine movement's progress over the past year is a lack of coordination and rallying people behind **not** voting for the democratic candidate unless they earn it.
unfortunately you kinda have to bow to fracking if you want to win pennsylvania, which is a key election state. id like to think she'd be different on it if she wins but i don't know.
And hundreds of American lives would have been saved. Not to mention the 200.000 dead Iraqi people, mostly civilians. Bush was needed to the defense industry, as they knew he will work for their profits(his profits too)
German guy asking you americans: Is Harris that "climate leader"? Because from the outside it does not seem like you even have the choice to vote for someone that takes the evergreen playbook seriously. (neither do we)
Liberals want you to think so. It's all posturing though. Harris said "I will never ban fracking" and has the nickname of Copmala due to her reputation of severely persecuting people (usually black and latino) for the most minor of crimes.
True, we don't have that choice. But at least Harris won't push us AS far the other direction. And, unlike Trump, she can be reasoned with and might actually listen. May or may not agree, but she'll understand way more nuance than he does. Everything I don't like about Harris's policies, Trump would do either the same thing or (in many cases) far worse. We're very much in harm reduction mode over here this time.
@@HumbleWooper totally agree, it's just kinda mind blowing to me that after all public discourses that responsible option is still missing on the ballots
Climate change shouldnt even be a political point of contention, its just facts. Sure, "vote blue" is a message in this video, but only because the alternative is practically ignoring the issue.
Is blue also not actively making it worse... she literally fights Trump over who is more pro-fracking and is supporting the genocide of Palestinians...
If facts weren't allowed to be a political point of contention, we wouldn't have political parties at all. People don't actually get that heated about opinions and beliefs. Only facts.
This is your best work ever! I was a mature adult at the 2000 election and absolutely devastated at the results. I wanted Gore to win so much. Our country would have been so different if he were president back then. You explained it so well to young people who are not able to remember that election. Such a well done video. Great job.
This video just made my blood pressure go up 4000%
And don't forget, we could have had universal healthcare, but instead we're giving billions of dollars to israel
Republicans stole the election.
I didn't know about this and I'm actually really mad how this happened.
@@allesarfint yeah, not all coups are violent. this was the nicer version of jan 6.
@@taintlessproductions basically same thing happening with trumps legal case in Florida as well. Stolen documents case. Judge Cannon was appointed by Trump. Delayed the trial and eventually threw it out without enough time to appeal before the end of this year. That documents case would prove trump is committing treason with those stolen documents.
Gen Z and Alpha truly dont get how bad Bush & friends were. Appreciate you giving voice to show how bad these warmongers were/are.
i was only six years old in the year 2000 so i truly had no idea how bad it really was. thanks climate town
Really eye-opening indeed
Bush Jr's foreign policy was unremarkable before 9/11. He was completely out of his depth following this and allowed the "'neocon"' think tanks to take control of the country.
Yep, and democrats are cheering on Dick Cheney for endorsing Kamala
@@DesOttsel I mean, it's better to get his support than not. No Democrat *likes* Cheney, though.
If the stolen election makes you angry, and you live in a 2024 swing state or Nebraska, contact your elected state legislators, and anyone else in charge of the election process in your state, and tell them to stop making changes days before the election.
Mike McDonnell came through for us here in NE. The blue dot lives on!
Nah, don't waste your energy with that. The only thing you should be focused on is maximizing votes.
Nebraska mentioned!
Yep, Georgia has been practically maximizing how many obstacles they can put in the way of voters. Because when less people vote Democrats lose
@@kevinkwon3608 Max votes dont matter when the state can artificially cap them. They don't matter when your districts can be gerrymandered.
Hey! As a professional IT guy in 90s Y2K was not a dumb thing to be afraid of! If we didn't work our butts off for two years making sure things went smoothly people could have literally died! Society wouldn't have collapsed, but if we didn't get all the ventilators, auto-pilot systems, and traffic light control panels updated things would have been rough.
Yep. Y2K is proof we can fix large, complicated problems if the urgency is understood
This is the comment I was looking for
Yeah, the stupid hype of it overshadowed the fact it was actually a legit problem, and that the only reason it didn't cause problems was that work got done to fix the issues.
And we have similar problem incoming at 2038. Still plenty time to go and people are already preparing for it. Not to mention many old affected systems are likely gone at that point so it's even less of a problem. But it is going to be huge problem for anyone not prepared. Bigger than y2k was as it literally makes many databases and files not functional. On top of that there are a lot of devices around the world that will not survive it. They are practically unfixable.
And there was still a TON of computer errors that happened, Wikipedia has a long list. In the UK a Y2K bug led to over 100 mothers receiving incorrect Down syndrome risk assessments reports, and two of those women subsequently opted for abortion.
they are eating the chads
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of the PEOPLE that LIVE there!!
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good snack
Donald is always ranting and raving about they/them. He has become the next pronounce guy.
Can already tell this is going to be an emotional Rollie coaster
“Emotional Rollie Coaster”
That needs to be on a t-shirt
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Immediately gets on a roller coaster in the first 2 minutes of the video
@@georginatoland I would buy this t-shirt in a heartbeat.
I lived here all my life, and I ain't afraid of no rolliecoaster!
Dang, y'all went deeper on the election of 2000 than I ever did. Props.
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So uhh... Now what? As someone not from the US, I'm honestly scared for the entire world. Climate change doesn't affect a single country, what's gonna happen the next 4 years will have unprecedented consequences for the climate. How could people in America do this?
1. The right's war on public education has paid off big time. Trump gained votes from non-college educated voters and uneducated male youth. Dems gained votes from wealthier voters with degrees. That's the minority.
2. AIPAC sunk millions into Trumps campaign and went harder than Harris in key states. Uneducated people are the best ad targets because they lack critical thinking skills and simple messaging resonates.
3. There are more Americans who care more about gas being affordable (which Trump promised his supporters) than there are Americans with enough foresight to realize that our liveable future on Earth is contingent on immediately phasing out fossil fuels and investing in renewable energy.
US citizen here, who voted for Kamala. I completely agree and am wondering the same thing! It's discouraging, disappointing, confusing, and embarrassing that apparently over half our population are morons. I am also worried about how this will negatively impact the environment worldwide and several other issues!
Imagine living in the Al Gore timeline. Must be nice
Bush was probably the worst thing that could have happened to the world as a whole, yes, even worse than Trump, because Bush was the worst kind of competent.
I don’t think it would be so different, maybe certain wars delayed by 4 years but not avoided. George bush was dumb and that was embarrassing for Americans but policy wise he was a conservative populist and those where always gonna thrive in the aftermath of 9/11
@@danilooliveira6580nah, Reagan was still immeasurably worse
@@peterpodgorski worst thing that could have happened in the 21st century.
@danilooliveira6580 thats a very important distinction to make lol
I appreciate this video as a ~40 y/o.
The guy behind "An Inconvenient Truth" should have been president... Instead, we got climate deniers...
Fossil fuel industry had a lot invested in Bush.
What with 2 wars - Afghanistan followed by Iraq.
I had forgotten how infuriating this was. Thank you for reboiling my blood. Imagine what a different would we could be in.
Not to mention that we could have had healthcare but instead we're giving billions of dollars to israel
Different wood* 🌲🌳🌴🌵
Literally no Iraq war, no child left behind, no patriot act, Afghanistan war would have been more limited, climate change would have been a priority, closer to universal healthcare, and on and on and on. It is so depressing.
I had forgotten how hard Who Let The Dogs Out slapped
@@the0ne809that’s a lot of hypotheticals
This same thing happened in Ohio (where I live) in 2004. I was part of an effort to collect affidavits all throughout the state and sue for a recount (which we got). Exit polls showed Kerry with a 5% lead over Bush… well over margin of error. The average wait to vote for someone living in the inner city in Ohio was 2.5 hours, while the average suburban voter wait was 15 min. I was the third person in line on election day in my inner city neighborhood, and I had a 35 min wait to vote. They had more voting machines during the primary than during the general election, and they made people stand outside to wait (and it was pouring down rain that day). And yet, people waited! The part that was extra corrupt was that Kenneth Blackwell (then Republican Secretary of State in Ohio) combined precincts, so people waited for 2.5 hours only to find out they were in the wrong line and were given a choice to either vote provisionally or go back and wait for 2.5 more hours. People, of course, voted provisionally, and Kerry conceded the election before provisional ballots were counted, even though there were enough to swing the election his way and take the presidency. People also stated in public hearings and signed affidavits that their vote switched when they pressed Kerry. No paper receipts existed at the time (electronic only), so the recount just spit out the same numbers. As part of our legal efforts, Ohio now has a paper receipt, but it’s only a half measure to a much more corrupt effort.
Registering to vote is so crazy to me. I get a pass sent automatically to vote. The government can find me during tax time - it sure as hell can find me in an election year.
No
We get fined in Australia if we don't vote. I might hate the results sometimes but it is democracy in action
@@bedtimeat8but what happens if the organized crime steal and burn the ballots of entire municipalities?
Or is that something that only happens in my magical country? 🇲🇽 🤔
@@bedtimeat8in Australia can you vote atleast no or third party? If not id take the fine over two people i dont support personally.
Thats coming from an American who has not voted in the last two election because i dont like either pick. Thought this election its just voting against Trump
@@michaelfiori6700 We have preferential voting. You vote for whoever you want (by ranking the candidates) and your preference always flows to your next preferred candidate, which means you can effectively vote third-party without having your vote count for nothing if they lose. If you don't want to participate at all (little reason to do this), you just don't put anything on your ballot, or deface it in whatever creative way you choose.
Surely denying climate change won't ever come back to bite Florida in the ass.
Yep, and I'm sure whatever private entities take over large scale weather forecasting and monitoring once the NOAA is dismantled (something project 2025 explicitly says they plan to do) will make a seamless and safe transition because they're already prepared or close to it.
It absolutely wouldn't bite air or ocean travel (private and commercial, on all levels from local to international) in the butt pretty much immediately.
@@HumbleWooperNo no no you don’t understand Project 2025 has nothing to do with Trump, dummy!
*checks authors of Project 2025*
wait a minute…
What predictuon came true? They actually had to drop "global warming" because it wasnt happening. Florida had a tame year for hurricanes? Climate change. Active year? Climate change. Venezuelan gangs taking over cities? Climate change. If the left is one thing, its gullible.
It's not denying climate change that's going to bite anybody in the ass, it's the confidence that we will do anything to halt climate change that's going to bite us all in the ass.
He wrote, as hurricane Helene ravaged Florida.
Thank God this video came out. My blood pressure seemed too low this morning.
Kinda depressing that the current goal is to win by overwhelming numbers so it can't be denied as easily. And thats for someone that in reality isn't guaranteed to take action. If only we had real leaders who were serious about taking action and a reasonable voting system.
France did away with machines and so should we, but he’s not here to talk about that.
its sad, but we dont have time to fix it before november. this is our best strategy, vote blue 🇺🇸💙
@bill4639 And what would that achieve, oh mighty burner of blue ballots? Make it easier for your side to cheat?
Your irregular video schedule makes every video that much better. Never stop doing this if you can, this channel is important.
Yup.
Getting a surprise video, randomly, makes it appreciate it even more lol
It takes alot of work to run around outside
actually its the opposite but ok
1:55 The idea that Y2K was actually no big deal is a myth. Lots of engineers put in a lot of thankless effort into making sure that Y2K bugs were fixed before they disrupted systems, including critical infrastructure.
Fun thing is it still causes problems. Some of the fixes were meant to fix it for a short time still cause problems every now and then in old systems still running. Now do those times [all systems almost everywhere] and you get to the billions of dollars spend on fixing it being a good idea.
Also: 03:14:07 Tuesday, 19 January 2038 is the next problem as it's the end of the 32bit unix epoch time (which looks very likely to be fixed by then since it's not the first rodeo).
1 not it wasnt at least not the the apocalíptic levels people were spouting about planes falling from the sky and such and 2 it could have been avoided if companies used machines from the last decade instead of 20+ year old infrastructure
For a little debunking of the debunking, this also isn't quite right - while there was a huge amount of effort in *some* countries to fix things (e.g. US), there was significantly less in others (e.g. Japan) that still didn't have major issues.
@@DarkTwinge Living in Japan I can assure it's because in 1999 they barely even had the olde-timey systems from this video. Several city governments finally ditched floppy disks because of the pandemic. I'm currently in the process of replacing an IBM i-Series system that runs 100% of the business of my life insurance employer and I honestly have no idea if the company will be able to get off its successor platforms in my working lifetime. I'm 53.
Yeah was going to say the same, Y2K wasn't a big deal in the same way that traveling in an airplane is really safe. A lot of people put a lot of effort into making it that way
One additional note on voting: there's a lot more than the presidential election, and despite them not getting any national attention, your local elected officials control a LOT. Zoning, transit, roads, schools, and the police, just to name a few.
And even if you're in a state where your vote "doesn't matter" at the presidential level, your vote matters in the downballot races.
So. Much. This. I'd upvote it multiple times if I could.
If anyone reading this doesn't care about your local elections, take ten minutes to look up your local ballot for this fall and google "[candidate name] platform 2024" for a couple of the candidates. Look for articles from your local news websites, they tend to have a good summary of key points about everyone running. And it's less showy fluff to dig through compared to looking at the candidates' websites directly.
On the last midterm election I looked up the platforms of two candidates running for a city school board slot to see what their positions were. When asked how they'd reduce violence in schools, one of them said they wanted to increase extracurricular resources and student mental health/therapy options. The other candidate wanted to increase armed police presence on campuses and install more metal detectors.
You might be surprised to find out you DO have opinions about who does those jobs after all.
THIS: parents of kids in area schools are BEGGING for passage of a bond to pay for school repair/upgrade. In part because Texas doesn’t believe in taxing enough to pay for schools…
Well of course but if you can’t get people to vote during the Presidential election they MOST DEFINITELY will not show up for the local government stuff.
@@paulregener7016 As someone who was a secretary for a local party and helped in running candidates at the local level, I assure you it is far easier than you think to convince people to vote for city officials. A large part of this is because city voting has extremely low turn out, so if you get any ground work done you'll typically be able to take on the incumbent who has the same diminishing population coming in time and time again. You don't need everyone to vote, you just need more people voting than the last guy. And the beautiful thing is that city policy is immediate, direct, and tangible in a person's life.
@@benevolentworldexploder5395 Hmm you must live in perfect precinct 101 my general area barely wants to learn to speak English let alone vote correctly in the local government hearings or even vote at all
Leaving a comment to boost engagement for the algorithm, mainly cause I'm getting physically ill and have to leave early. I'll finish watching this when I'm angry again.
I am old. I was living in Florida at the time. I had forgotten some of the details but now remember just how angry I was. Thanks for the message on the importance of voting.
HAIL TO THE THIEF - Radiohead named their 2003 album after this election. It is still one of my favorite albums for its political takes, here in America 2+2 always makes a 5.
RADIOHEAD LETS GOOOO
PLEASE I was listening to Ful Stop while browsing the comments here, this threw me for a loop for a sec, I thought I mixed up the comment sections 😂 bless you
Another one from that era Green Day, "don't want to be an Ameican idiot".
Hail to the Thief and Kid A are my favorites
Wow. Guess it shouldn't be that surprising that I didn't know all those details about the election in 2000 considering I was only 11 years old, but... damn. Simultaneously glad that I now know and absolutely livid about what happened.
same, considering I wasn't born yet
As a European, all I knew about Al Gore is that he won the popular vote by a mile... and meanbearpig.
Had no idea about all of this but it's genuinely mind blowing how something like this can happen in a country that calls itself democratic.
Their founders hate the idea of a popular vote. "Mob rule" they called it.
I believe the USA was set up as a lie it's been trying to live up to for 250+ years.
It's truly a republic. Self-manifested parties decide what to do with our votes. It's not until we have a major technological breakthrough to count the vote of all 400M+ individuals that we could move closer to a democracy... oh wait we all have quad core cell phones in our pockets that scan our fingerprints everytime we touch the screen. It's almost like we could have been doing this since at least 2008 with the first Iphone...? Weird. Seems like some groups of people want to stay in control and make 400M sound like a big number but I just ran a python script to count to a billion and it ran in 0.025s. We are not technology limited. We are limited by a cultural mindset.
Unfortunately that's just it, we're NOT a democracy, we have elements OF a democracy which make us demo-cratic. We're mainly a republic. We just vote to make our opinions known, and then someone else votes *for us.* It's pretty dumb in the modern age, but it helps to remember our history and relations. We're not a country, we're a union. Like the EU, our individual "countries" each have their own interests. The Electoral College (EC) was created at our foundation mainly to solve two issues - small states worried they'd have their issues ignored and votes overruled by larger states, and mail. With horseback being the best intercontinental mode of transport, counting votes and bringing an answer was less guaranteed then sending a whole guy to "deliver" the vote, so the EC was meant to fix both issues.
Fast forward 2 centuries and 37 more states and uhhh it doesn't really make sense anymore, especially when individual states use their EC votes differently. Some states are all or nothing - if a simple majority of the state votes for 1 person then the *entire* state is considered as voting for that person.
Tl;Dr Not a democracy, just a republic union with democratic elements over 2 centuries old that we haven't fixed.
I’m old enough to remember all this and it’s still as infuriating now as it was then. Thanks @climateTown for ruining my day once again. I’m going to go drink now, see you next time!
Being too young in Y2K, I had no clue that the Bush Machine was working so hard on the obstruction.
Look at what Bush and Cheney have been doing in this and the last two elections as well, they're not gone :(
So republicans are conspiracy nuts huh?
As a computer programmer, I can say that Y2K was a real issue. Even after most major issues were fixed, there were still some bugs (credit processing, municipal systems going offline, etc..)
It also led to the first international audit of Internet systems.
This is the biggest controversy that'll shake Climate Town right down to its bedrock.
Seriously though, I do recall there being a large effort to mitigate the damage.
Yup! Y2K was only as insignificant as it was because a _ton_ of work went into fixing it.
I've spoken with people who worked very hard across multiple months to ensure that Y2K was dealt with and didn't become a problem. It's weird to me that people are still under the assumption that it was a false concern just because we actually did something to address it.
In that way it's kind of like the hole in the Ozone
Agreed! Y2K was a non-issue because people listened to experts and took the threat seriously & in time to mitigate it. If only there was another world threatening issue like this that we could apply our learnings to....
I respect the hell out of you man, just really one of the best climate communicators out there
imagine if we had Gore instead of Bush in 2000. Imagine the world we would be living in today.
Imagine if we had bernie fucking sanders in 2016, instead of whatever sort of orange slimey thing we got instead
@@no_name4796 I honestly can't imagine how good that would be. My brain is just not capable of believing America will ever be that.
I genuinely wonder if we wouldn't have hit +2°C this year, you know? Like, did/will the supreme Court appointing Bush in 2000 cause the extinction of humanity?
We may never know
I mean, better, but probably not as better as you may think. there are things that would have happened independent of the president elected. just look at how neither party seem to be willing to stop supporting Israel, democrats are still too far right. however, it definitely would have been better, just for the fact gore would have pushed the overton window much farter to the left, Bush was probably one of the worst things to happen to the world as a whole, and yes, even worse than Trump, because Bush was the worst kind of competent.
@@Yixdy"or we will know"... Because the hallmarks are already there,..
Do I want to watch Rollie Williams cover the 2000 election? Yes I do.
I'm gonna have to psyche myself up to watch this first. Maybe after November. I can't handle thinking about 2000 right now.
Do I want to watch Rollie Williams? Yes I do. -- FTFY
Good (and painful) history lesson
A lot of people worked real hard to prevent Y2K from being worse than it was, which leads to the skewed perspective that it was a nothingburger.
Although the bit was funny
Honestly, I did read about that, I just needed that computer line in there.
Kinda like the hole in the ozone layer lol
Now it's completely forgotten
@@ClimateTown Honestly, might have not been the most responsible thing to have done. Still, I guess you live and learn.
@@no_name4796 They fixed it! Or we did. THere is a new one in Antarctica I hear
@@rougechampion "movement" (I read a lot of scientific journals)... The forecast is for a full nominal ozone recovery by '2063'...
I can't believe this voter system. I really hope you guys vote against the climate change denier and push for a better future! Best wishes from Berlin❤
Why does this video keep saying the year 2000 was 24 years ago? It was obviously only a few years ago, time doesn't go that fast, right?
Right!
I think pretending the 2010s never happened is really best for everyone. Most Millennials could say that they're ten years younger than they really are, and still look better than their parents did at their age. I'm 35. That's roughly how old the guys in Seinfeld were. I still think they look like they're in their fifties. Same goes for Sex and the City. Like, when the show started basically the whole cast was in their thirties. Almost all of them look about ten years older than they are to me.
We could definitely strike the 2010s from the record and hardly anyone would notice.
Definitely not
It was last week
The parallels between 2020 and 2000 are undeniable.
I was 20 in the year 2000, and have lived in Europe all my life. I remember this election even though i wasn't very interested in foreign politics then. in Europe we mocked Bush for being stupid and we lamented missing the chance to see an American president who would act on climate change. I grew up learning about acid rain and I think i learnt about climate change in 1998 - 1999 more or less. it's been frustrating to see the power of big oil for so many years pushing back on the necessary changes.
It's amazing just how much damage the Electoral College has done to the United States.
It has help from the Supreme Court.
There has to be a better way to protect our country from mass hysteria, while allowing a righteous electorate be heard.
no damage
I just watched this the day after the 2024 election which feels, in hindsight, masochistic - but thanks for making it regardless 💪💪
Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. - Kenneth Boulding
That's exactly what Kamala Harris believes...
Only an economist could look at a place where millions of people are starving because they can't afford food and say "The demand for food here is entirely satisified!"
@@iancolburn4054Stop doing acid. Late stage capitalism is fully supported by both parties but not protecting the people from the aggressive, immoral, and many times illegal business practices while giving ultra rich tax breaks is republicans and Dump's plans.
Economic growth doesn’t just represent the increasing extraction of resources. It also represents the elimination of waste and increasing efficiency of resource allocation. Even in a world where we limit resource depletion, economic growth is still important
The vast majority of economic growth comes from improved technology and know-how. A software engineer is paid well partly because it requires skill, but also because their code can make it onto millions of devices. This wasn't possible seventy years ago - and the tools available are improving all the time.
I can't even imagine how different things today would be if the 2000 election went for Gore
I like to think we would have had actual decent attempts at climate policy on the federal level but I guess we'll never know
We wouldn’t have invaded Iraq, and there would be two fewer conservative judges on SCOTUS.
Plus, we probably would’ve made a bit more progress on the whole climate change thing.
@@markevans8206 But the 2008 financial meltdown would probably have hit at the tail end of Gore’s second term (which I assume he’d win as the “rally around the flag” incumbent, just like Bush) and it would’ve been blamed primarily on Democrats. Thus, almost certainly no Obama presidency, but a GOP one fuelled by an angry protest vote.
probably not at all different since both parties are capitalist warmongers run by weapons mfgs and investment firms. kinda like how the G-Side will continue regardless of who wins the 2024 election - it simply does not matter since both parties are representative of the ruling class and protect the status quo of US imperialist global hegemony.
Probably no different
Playing "Who Let the Dogs Out" has resurfaced my repressed memories of middle school dances. I hope you're happy with yourself.
The entire world would be so different if Al Gore had been president. He invented the internet!! /s But really actually he would have been so much better for environmental policy.
Edited to add: AMAZING production value and editing. Very funny. Love this.
Love the anti-doomer messaging. Both the Y2K bug and the repairing of the ozone hole were achieved with collective effort. We can avoid the disaster of climate change too, together.
How long have you been fighting for our planet earth? I started at 14 and I'll tell ya,I'm running out of energy. But also hope . 40 yrs is a long time to fight.
just consoom less lmao
@@pickledragonrebel Keep it up. We have to fight for those who won't -- like thee victims of GOP misinformation who will never fight.
how come they never showed us this in civics class 😕
@@Strawb3rryD3ath However corrupt it was then, it's worse now.
@@0HOON0it’s really not
They try to show the good parts, not the shameful parts. There's a lot of shameful parts.
because the video came out just now?
The sad part is that no one has any integrity. Democracy dies when the loser of an election refuses to lose... Just like 2000 it's again the Republican party that both says they cannot lose and is actively breaking state laws to make that true (just like they tried to do in 2020)...
I don't get it. Why don't we have Federal election standards? Like including standard ballots? Even MAGA should be for this. Elections are a mess in almost every state it seems.
It's one of the powers granted to the states
Because both parties prefer it this way.
Obviously politicians don't like to change things that are in their favour and as it happens, usually those in power happened to be favoured by the current system. Funny how that works...
because your elites do nit actually want democracy
So conservatives can throw out votes
I'm not even an US citizen, yet I wish this video would be plastered and put in the suggestions at least a couple of tines, for every person in the US that watches RUclips.
This truly is the darkest timeline.
only if Trump gets another 4 years.
Nah, one side of the 2 is way more promising then many president before them
But yeah if trump wins, we are unironically fucked
@@SupercriticalSnake The country is in rough shape under either candidate.
The crazy part is that the party currently in power is doing nothing to defend against the contents of Project 2025. The Heritage foundation is a gift to the democrats, to scare voters into voting for them. Of course they won't do anything about it now, and once they're in power, they'll continue to do nothing but make empty promises while never moving the needle left.
The worst timeline would be a 2000 Pat Buchanan reform victory, or a 2020 Trump election win.
40 year old here, I was there, I remember it all.
Make sure that all Gen Z and Millenials you know are made aware of how older voters keep the value of their real estate high by voting in much larger numbers.
And then make sure that said younger voters are made aware of early voting and mandatory time off for the same, if 3 out of 10 non voting Dems show up, then that could help Harris this November
Why on God's name would we want Harris to win? Just because she's a Democrat doesn't mean she's good. Her and Joe Biden are literal war mongers and murderers.
If 1 out of 4 non voting registered voters in Texas all turned out and vote for Democrats, Texas would flip blue. I don't think apathetic non voters realize how easy it would be to end the GOP for good.
Gen z and millenials like trump better though
@@wertnog6379 Not true. Slightly more than half of youth vote blue, but to be fair, it's actually tightened in the last several elections. So it is trending more toward 50/50.
@@wertnog6379 nah, I would say it's more 50/50. I know cuz im gen z
Rollie, thank you SO MUCH to you and the team behind Climate Town! You guys do such a tremendous job at addressing very real issues while making it thoroughly entertaining (and infuriating) to watch all at the same time. We appreciate all the work you guys do! Thanks for ruining my day, yet again lol. Love y'all 🫶🏽
The only reason the Y2K bug wasn't a big issue was because of all the work that was done to fix it, not because it wasn't a big deal.
Wrong. Most of it was a non issue. ZERO infrastructure issues were identified. Not a single action was needed.
@@Look_What_You_Didit would only be an issue in cases where a date was stored with two digits for the year... which it almost ever was. Even then it was still almost universal to store dates as Unix timestamps.
Yeah it's strange to see a climate advocacy person dismissing Y2K. Y2K is up there with the ozone layer in terms of massive collective action problems that we actually pulled off avoiding.
@@elizabethpatitsas565 lol right, I did not expect that kind of misinformation. xD
@@Kas-tle wait till you hear about the Unix Epoch bug haha
Y2K was actually not a dumb thing to be afraid of. Computers around the world would have crashed/broken, causing countless deaths and other calamities. The only reason that didn't happen is that the entire world galvanised and spent years and years fixing the problem before it occured. Experts spent years of their lives saving the world just for it to be remembered as a dumb thing to be scared of. If nobody was scared it wouldn't have been fixed. We're terrible as a species at learning lessons. Fitting this is a 2000 election video.
2000!? Was A QUARTER!?!?!? OF A CENTURY!?!?!? AGO?????
i don't feel so good mr. stark
Do you know what's going to fry your noodle?
Netflix is now older than Blockbuster was when it went bankrupt. Though that's mostly because Netflix is surprisingly old.
Yes I am almost a quarter of a century old... People really think all of GenZ is like 12😅
I mean, you can also think 2014 as a tenth of a century ago.
Now you've made me think about it
Of course Roger Stone had something to do with it. It’s mind boggling that he is a free man.
Have you seen the tattoo on his back😅
being the ripe age of 6 when the 2000 election went down, I had no idea how much of a disaster it actually was. I do remember there was commotion, but I had no idea it was all of that, shEESH
Yup, I Was 5 & This Video Gets Me Heated. Imagine All The Lives That Wouldn't Have Been Lost In Unnecessary Wars, Potentially Better Response Regarding 9/11, Climate Change Action/Prevention Policies & So Much More. It's Enraging & Depressing All At The Same Time.
I was 15 and I remembered stuff about hanging chads and re counts that went on... but I didn't recall the recounts weren't competed 😮 Then again, I grew up in an ultra conservative household where Gore was practically the devil so everyone around me was pulling for Bush and I'm guessing that injustice was just lost amidst everyone cheering for the Bush victory.
It makes me feel pretty mad now though; I can't even imagine what we've lost and what a different course it's set us on for at least a generation.
I was raised conservative, so Gore's "recount the votes" thing was construed at the time as just him being a sore loser. Now come to find 24 years later he was right all along... I never want to hear another conservative whine about stolen elections again when they've been not only stealing them, but *suppressing* voters too.
In Australia we do this novel thing where we tick boxes on paper with pencil (to prevent disappearing ink etc) and then humans count them, twice - it isn't fucking complicated, what the hell are ya'll doing
you also have ranked choice
I bet you also don't vote on a stupid busy day like a Tuesday, when most voters are working.
@@AdmiralBison votes are always Saturdays. There's also early voting and postal votes.
One consequence of voting being mandatory is that they have to make it as accessible as possible.
The problem is bad actors in government colluding to give themselves more power. It's like asking why north korea was having problems. Leadership is the issue and people organizing bottom up was the solution that could happen.
It's the same here in Canada. We have paper ballots, and we put an X in the circle next to the candidate we're voting for.
I was telling people about Al Gore just yesterday! And there's a Stop The Steal documentary on HBO. The big problem is when I tell people about Al Gore, they say - Who? So, young people.
He was a 10th level vice president!
Thanks for this video. I've been perturbed about this for almost 25 years now.
You know, I had no idea the 2000 election was this much of a shitshow.
The events of 2000 were memory holed by May 2001. After 11/9/2001 everyone decided to ignore the fact that Bush stole the election in a coup. By 2002 a romcom, 2 weeks notice, was able to feature a female lead who was a liberal lawyer and supposed Supreme Court groupie who recalls crying “the night Bush II was elected” and not mention any of this shit show. Don’t underestimate the US capacity for forgetting inconvenient truths. I also suspect that you haven’t heard much about the similar coup that put Rutherfraud Hayes into power after the civil war.
It was sooooo sickening. But then, we got that orange guy! OMG!
Climate science communicator saying y2k wasn't a biggie, when it's actually a perfect illustration of what can happen if you take a real, looming disaster with a deadline seriously, is......... certainly a choice
It is incredibly easy to look back and say we worried about nothing because it all turned out fine. We did it about the Cold War. I have no doubt that if we ever put this climate threat behind us, there will be many who will say the same. I know some who already downplay the hole in the ozone issue.
Y2K wasn't a dumb thing. It was totally real. The reason nothing happened is because every computer that mattered was replaced. If it wasn't fixed, it would have been a nightmare.
nit picking
Yeah, but often not the solutions aren't given as much attention to the impending problems.
The 80s/90s the "hole in the ozone layer" was a concern, but regulations quietly solved it.
Making it seem as though the problem solved itself or worse... Was never a problem.
We're fucked, actually.
Agreed. We truly are.
Guess we get to see what it was like to live in the 30/40/50s....FML
Production quality is truly great in this one.
I could just FEEL how pissed Rollie really was during that Jim Cramer bit lol
everyone should know about the 2000 election, this is the perfect video to explain it!
Watching this today just makes me terrified for all of our futures.
The fact that U.S. citizens have to register to vote and are not registered by default is a wild one to me.
Yeah, I get all the shit mailed to me (voter pass and an unofficial copy of the candidate list) and then just hop into one of the like billion voting stations near me on the day of. Literally takes 1 minute.
It's by design for voter suppression of minority communities.
You automatically get signed up to vote when you register with selective service. But that’s not automatic either so, maybe it’s for the best that the government doesn’t have the ability to automatically sign you up for things.
@@ArTht-y6h I didn't know what selective service was but after googling it, I found out you are required by law to register within 30 days after your 18th birthday... If you fail to register you are in violation of the law. That seems worse than automatic registration to me.
I hear its quite common for voters (particularly those in democrat voting areas within red states) to suddenly find themselves de-registered
Solid video, shame it was about the most depressing political development of my youth. Remember to vote everyone.
Rollie confirms, its okay to say it, remember to vote specifically for Kamala, otherwise don't vote
@@Billionth_Kevin Vote for Jill Stein
@@Billionth_KevinKamala is no better than trump
@@Brent-jj6qisorry, but Trump is either a lunatic or egoistic enough to where there's no difference. The guy wants to be emperor over the states.
@@Validole as opposed to Kamala, who’s a lunatic who couldn’t even win a primary against *tulsi gabbard*
Y2K wasn't dumb, Y2K was taken seriously and worked hard to fix and then nothing happened because of all the work people put in.
Then what was the actual threat? Were the computers literally going to explode like they were stuffed with dynamite?
@@lawnmowerdudenow THIS is a dumb statement. 😅
He didn’t say Y2K was dumb, but that it was dumb to be afraid of your computer exploding.
They even made a movie about it, called Office Space
Yeah, it’s like the hole in the ozone layer. There was a problem, it was addressed, and now dummies are like “LOL y u skrrd 4?”
This video made me register to vote.
Oh yeah, I remember all this. But I was 25, had an amazing social life, and it was before 9/11 so life was awesome. Y2K was a non event due to the huge amount of work that was done prior to it happening.
Yeah, I was a decade older, we went cruising downtown Dallas and looked at all the lites just in case comp blew🎉 We were crazy back then😅
I’m confused, so all the computers were going to explode?
@@lawnmowerdude no, it's that dates were stored with just the last two digits of the year with the logic assuming the start of any year was 19XX. Once the century flipped to 1-Jan-2000, computer systems would've thought the year was 1900. this is bad for checking if e.g. contracts/licenses had expired, whether automatic transfers would trigger, etc.
The background setting of Office Space is about this, actually.
@@lawnmowerdude no one knew, but it was a good excuse to be mobile just in case! I didnt (outside of work) even have a cell phone!
@@sableminer8133 Oh yeah. In 1999 I didn’t have a mobile (cell) phone.
Y2K is what I compare climate change to.
Because programmers worked their asses off to fix it, we didn't see much of an impact at all.
Fallout 76 had an actual Y2K bug that caused every nuke ingame to be launched because the ingame timers were reset on new year.
Didn't know that about f76, love it 😂😂 Bethesda strikes again, literally 😂😂
What was the real threat then? I’m curious.
@@lawnmowerdudei believe it would've just caused unpredictable glitches in all sorts of computer systems, which could've been very bad given their central role in society
lol wait, how is y2k like climate change? We haven't done anything to solve human caused climate change, in fact we've released more emissions every year. y2k was mostly fixed. climate change is already influencing disease spread/outbreaks, goods/food price increases, land loss from sea level rise, extreme weather events, etc.
Yeah but we are putting bigger blocks of ice in the ocean every year. Problem solved forever. 😊
"This *orange* line is the Project 2025 line"...I see you Rollie, I see you.
the netherlands are upset by that^^
Your endorsement doesn't change my mind, but it is encouraging me to make sure I get out to the poll. Thanks!
I absolutely love the transitions in these videos, Almost as much as i love the 2000 latin hip hop classic "Maria Maria" by Santana
There are Bernie bros and then there's Rollie, who never gave up on Al Gore. He's even been hinting his allegiance to us at the end of every episode.
This comment is for Al Gore, hope he can get his rhythm back.
*Closes video and puts on who let the dogs out"
I grew up in a conservative household with a dad who loved Rush Limbaugh and it's fascinating relearning how crazy this really was
As someone who lived through this i cant watch it again sorry. Thanks for sharing tho.
As a non-American, this whole approach of "all the seats of a state go to the majority vote" instead of something more proportional is just insanity.
No no its perfectly logical 🫠
as an american i agree and you’re right. our system is f*cked!
Wait until you find out that this isn't actually how it works. Each state decides for themselves how it works, and some states DO give out the seats proportionally. Which is literally worse than choosing one or the other for everyone... the process isn't even consistent with itself.
I am still feeling very cynical about climate change policy.
There was literally a point in the last debate where they were arguing over who liked fracking more.
This was a huge disappointment from climate town. endorsing g-side, fracking, drilling, oil pipelines. just absolutely abysmal.
@@kylezo You two just quit watching at 29:30, huh?
I am not saying I was disappointed in climate town for “endorsing” either side. As @joshuaaornott438 pointed out he didn’t endorse anyone.
I am just saying I feel cynical that there are two choices in the election and both sides at the moment have not expressed much interest in climate policy. I know Kamala has details on her website but, like most democrats, she appears to be afraid to say anything too extreme during an interview or debate. I am sure for good reason but again we are back to why I am cynical.
@@joshuaarnott438 I was not saying anything about climate town. I thought it was a good video. 🤷♂️
@@kylezo I mean I get it, you gotta pick someone in the election. I don’t think it is climate towns fault that it is difficult to pursue climate policy more aggressively 🤷♂️
Always a fan of this channel. Keep up the great work!
Good old right wing tradition of playing along with democracy as long as it serves them.
Let a german tell you, it's not excusively an american issue.
Your comment is 3 days old, so you must have posted it on Thursday, 26th September 2024. Either you're super fast and just read the news about the Landtag of Thuringia eclat or you predicted just hours before that an unprecedented disturbance of German democracy has to be resolved by the state's court the very next day... either way impressive 😄
@@Blex_040 Well, I certainly read way to much news than is good for my mental well being, but even if I hadn't been aware of that situation, predicting, that something like that is going to happen soon is like predicting it's going to be monday next week.
Trump says it out loud, but the Republican view of democracy has amounted to "if I win it was fair, if you win it was rigged" for decades now.
This is so upsetting. Forgot how un democratic that shit was. Thanks for raising my blood pressure.... again.
Thank you for explaining the hanging chad joke from How I Met Your Mother with more detail than anyone else on the internet 😂
Please don't do the Y2K thing like that. It didn't do the kind of damage warned about, because many thousands of programmers worked their asses off to fix things. And even then, several nuclear power plants still had serious glitches that were handled by workers watching extra carefully. It was a real disaster averted by hard work, and then downplayed precisely because it was averted. Much like the ozone hole.
I worked on y2k. Nothing happened because we fixed everything
We? You didnt do anything
@@BiggerR10 ok
I love this channel! It's a bit sad that I can't help in any way since I'm from Poland but I'm rooting for you guys because (unfortunately) what happens in the US affects not just the US but pretty much the entire world and our little country too.
Things are not looking good here either and public opinion in Poland and Europe is definitely swaying against any climate action - I think in part because of the recent actions by groups like Just Stop Oil and The Last Generation which are achieving the exact opposite result to what they're supposedly set out to do. In fact this has me questioning whether or not those groups are actually working for the oil industry to discredit climate action in the eyes of the public - I wasn't able to find any proof of this though. Maybe an idea for your next video?
Y2k was a legit issue, and lots of engineers put a lot of effort into preventing it from causing problems
about y2k: the only reason it didn't cause major problems was because a bunch of software engineers and it people worked very hard (maybe the nuke stuff was an overreaction though)
i can't believe we just moved on from the 2000 election though...
I'm becoming more worried about this election. Apparently lots of places are doing last minute law changes.
There's been a lot of voter purging too 😑
I am doom watching RUclips videos today and from the future I would like to tell you that your intuition was spot on.
@@BRLambert4 what a beautiful day, the neocon warmongers lost even with the massive propaganda campaign.
Thank you for making this!! Help save our planet and vote blue!
💙🌳🇺🇸
I've never understood the registration thing. Where I live you just walk to your designated voting place and vote with your national ID. Granted, it's a small country in comparison to the US, but I guess at a state scale it could work the same.
2000 was the gentleman's version of Jan6.
Depressing to see how this played out for the best ever climate-aware U.S. pres. candidate that I am aware of. Given Harris's supposed enthusiasm for fracking, what I worry about now is that people will continue to be lulled into complacency through the promise of incremental progress at a time when drastic action is needed so much faster. Is pushing Harris to a proper climate platform post-ascension to the office actually viable? Pro-Palestine protestors have not moved her position on her support for Israeli military armament, so what is it going to take for her campaign to stop slurping up oil-friendly policy?
I would like to think that it's too risky for the elections to publicly present a clear opinion on things like Palestine. So we don't actually have a choice but to try to affect her platform post-elections. Protests, strikes, everything is on the table after the elections. This is not about choosing a friend, it's about choosing the enemy. Who would you rather fight?
Based on the last 50 years, I have no faith that the democrats will actually do anything for the people here or abroad. I have 100% faith they will pretend to have our best interests in mind, but the conservative endorsements they are celebrating only shows the democrats of today are the republicans of Bush's era. The ratchet effect will not get us progressive policies on climate.
the only way to control representatives is to make them fear losing their power. The only way to influence Harris after her election is to campaign hard against her, organize a bloc of voters who *will not* vote for her if she runs for reelection without meeting their demands. If your vote is assured, candidates have no reason to listen to you.
This doesn't mean a passive resistance and merely disapproving, but getting involved with local, regional, national organizations to connect with people and get them to stand behind not voting for "blue no matter who."
One weakness of the Pro-Palestine movement's progress over the past year is a lack of coordination and rallying people behind **not** voting for the democratic candidate unless they earn it.
unfortunately you kinda have to bow to fracking if you want to win pennsylvania, which is a key election state. id like to think she'd be different on it if she wins but i don't know.
I wonder if Gore would have wasted trillions on a "war on terror"?
And hundreds of American lives would have been saved. Not to mention the 200.000 dead Iraqi people, mostly civilians.
Bush was needed to the defense industry, as they knew he will work for their profits(his profits too)
wasted? "economic stimulus"
Yes, he would have. Both the Dems and the Reps are on the same side as the military complex. There's a reason Harris is called Copmala.
Americans wanted blood I think anybody would've sent troops
@@nobideluxe348 You seem to have forgotten that those were terrible years for the economy.
German guy asking you americans: Is Harris that "climate leader"?
Because from the outside it does not seem like you even have the choice to vote for someone that takes the evergreen playbook seriously. (neither do we)
Liberals want you to think so. It's all posturing though. Harris said "I will never ban fracking" and has the nickname of Copmala due to her reputation of severely persecuting people (usually black and latino) for the most minor of crimes.
True, we don't have that choice. But at least Harris won't push us AS far the other direction. And, unlike Trump, she can be reasoned with and might actually listen. May or may not agree, but she'll understand way more nuance than he does. Everything I don't like about Harris's policies, Trump would do either the same thing or (in many cases) far worse. We're very much in harm reduction mode over here this time.
@@HumbleWooper totally agree, it's just kinda mind blowing to me that after all public discourses that responsible option is still missing on the ballots
Surprise surprise, it's another talking head on youtube beggina anyone and everyone to vote for anyone buy Hitler: But Orange.
@@NightCoreNightyevtl aufhören die nazi Zeit wieder zu beschwören mit der afd wäre ein guter anfang
You know, sometimes insomnia can really pay dividends. First! 🥇
(Oh, and I'm here for you, Rollie! Go Team Climate Town!)
Neal my friend, I'm happy to be here for ya (though the video isn't going anywhere, so go to sleep and watch it when you wake up)
@@ClimateTownYOU REPLY TO PEOPLE? ROLLIE FOR THE WIN!!!
There's nothing better than a cup of coffee and a new Climate Town video to start the day
Climate change shouldnt even be a political point of contention, its just facts. Sure, "vote blue" is a message in this video, but only because the alternative is practically ignoring the issue.
Not just ignoring but actively making it worse
Is blue also not actively making it worse... she literally fights Trump over who is more pro-fracking and is supporting the genocide of Palestinians...
If facts weren't allowed to be a political point of contention, we wouldn't have political parties at all. People don't actually get that heated about opinions and beliefs. Only facts.
The reality is that the Democrats wont do shit about climate change. You should not vote for them. They write us off. VOte 3rd party.
This is your best work ever! I was a mature adult at the 2000 election and absolutely devastated at the results. I wanted Gore to win so much. Our country would have been so different if he were president back then. You explained it so well to young people who are not able to remember that election. Such a well done video. Great job.