Just received My Fellow XF, The Fellow Ode Grinder, and the Fellow EKG Kettle. The coffee containers and 12 & 20 oz travel mugs arrive tomorrow. All in black and very astheticlly pleasing. Been a Kalita guy for about 6 years now. Just bought a Chemex Classic Series 10 cup (wow) and that's when I saw the Fellow line of products online. It just spoke to me in so many ways. Professional looking, individual use and a comprehensive product line that compliments itself and appeals to my need for astheticlly pleasing equipment. Thanks so much for your work, your helping remove so much anxiety as I get started on what promises to be a grand journey. Best! John.
Hi John, thanks for stopping by! Glad you enjoyed the video, sounds like you have a great setup! I don’t think you’ll regret any of it, each brewing method has its own nuances that can highlight different coffees. Cheers! ☕️
Hello again! So I’ve been enjoying my journey. I did graduate to a V60 and upgraded from the Fellow Ode gen 1 grinder to the Fellow Ode Gen 2 grinder with the upgraded SSP MP burrs $$$. I still use the Fellow Stag XF with certain beans. Others, I just have to go with an ultra fine grind and use the V60. I definitely appreciate your insights on the different products. So for me, the Fellow Stag XF is kind of like your first electric guitar. It’s basic enough, yet offers one with enough complexity to learn and grow. The V60 on the other hand is more of a nylon string classical guitar. It’s significantly more complex and unforgiving, however, with it’s complexity comes enormous utility and a much broader user index. I’ve greatly enjoyed this extraordinary journey and your contributions to the pour over coffee aficionado community are most appreciated! Thank you so much for all you do! John.
I found your video while looking for a comparison between the Kalita and Fellow drippers. You gave great explanations and the production quality is impressive. I learned a lot!
You're totally right, I missed out on the opportunity to share that info. I think that all of the three types can produce great coffee, but here are my takeaways. The Kalita and the Fellow produce very similar coffees, which makes sense if you compare the geometry, filter paper, and hole size. Compared to the V60, these two drippers produce coffee that's has more body and intensity. I think the reason for that is twofold: they both restrict flow to a degree, and they both are going to retain heat better than my ceramic V60. All in all, I think the Kalita and Fellow will be more forgiving at coarser grind settings than the V60, but you won't be unhappy with any of them. Thanks for the feedback, appreciate you stopping by!
@@ThunderRunner I think that any of these could work for most coffees, but I think you will get a better control over dark roasts with something that is less restrictive, like the V60. I think you could get great results with any of them, but the V60 will require the most precise grind out of all of them, so that is something worth considering. Thanks for stopping by!!
I don’t think there’s such a thing as an optimal recipe but here’s an example of a recipe that I use that should work very well for a Kalita 185 or a Stagg XF. Start with a grind size around 600 microns and adjust from there:) I find that I generally have to grind finer for the Stagg XF. 0:00 Bloom - 50g 0:30 Heavy Spiral Pour - 160g 0:45 Spiral Pour - 220g 1:05 Spiral Pour - 280g 1:30 Spiral Pour - 340g 2:00 Spiral Pour - 400g Drain 3:30
Great and informative review but as others have noted, a bit abrupt on the ending. Anyway, I wanted to know if the Stagg XF Dripper can be used directly over a 12oz Fellow Carter Move Mug. I would love to skip having to do the carafe part. Thanks.
You're totally right on the end, still learning and working to improve the flow of my videos from start to finish. But to answer your question, totally, you can easily brew from the XF dripper into the Carter Move, I don't think it'll be a problem at all. Given that both the XF and the Carter are vacuum insulated, the one thing I'd say is that your coffee will stay hot (maybe even too hot) for a long time! But that might be a good thing, depending on how you drink your coffee. Mine never lasts that long ;)
@@brewingjitsu that's good to know. Thanks! And yes, I do find the Carter keeps the coffee hot and too efficient that I often have to wait as it's too hot.. BTW, your dog is super cute 😍
What is the difference between the XF and the X maker? I looked at the Fellow site but it wasn't very clear as to which one is the best, I only need it to make one cup of coffee, but I like it strong. Thanks
The fellow single cup brewer is the one I use for my every day brew. I also have the XL and the large Glass vessel. I just find that fellows design is designed around a specific size filter. On purpose so they can go with you big dollars for future filter purchases. I found a filter for my small fellow that works fairly decent. I found it on Amazon but it comes out of China so I’m sure to rinse the paper well prior to Bring a cup. Which intern slows down the drip process. Resulting in a slightly stronger brew. I think I’m going to enlarge the holes on the bottom of the follow brewer to increase flow slightly. The reason the filters slow things down is you lose the pleats. By rinsing the filter material. It just increases the time of the pour over too much. That’s why I’m thinking larger holes would definitely help. I just refuse to pay their inflated price for paper filters they’re insane!!! Are there any other brands of filters out there they’re more affordable that fit fellow products??
According to Fellow, They recommend their own filters, but Kalita 185 and Blue Bottle filters work as well. I am possibly heading down a similar route. I am torn between buying the Hario Decanter size 03 with a Kalita 185 ceramic dripper, or the Fellow Stagg XF. If i buy the fellow, i am going to test the cheaper alternatives.
@@easytiger266 yeah, fellow recommends there filter and then gouges you for big dollars$$$!!!! I found a Chinese made filter with a little bit of a fold. It fits perfect. They’re reasonably priced, but I’m sure to rinse them since they’re from China. It does rinse the paper taste out very quickly by rinsing with hot water.
Just received My Fellow XF, The Fellow Ode Grinder, and the Fellow EKG Kettle. The coffee containers and 12 & 20 oz travel mugs arrive tomorrow. All in black and very astheticlly pleasing. Been a Kalita guy for about 6 years now. Just bought a Chemex Classic Series 10 cup (wow) and that's when I saw the Fellow line of products online. It just spoke to me in so many ways. Professional looking, individual use and a comprehensive product line that compliments itself and appeals to my need for astheticlly pleasing equipment. Thanks so much for your work, your helping remove so much anxiety as I get started on what promises to be a grand journey.
Best!
John.
Hi John, thanks for stopping by! Glad you enjoyed the video, sounds like you have a great setup! I don’t think you’ll regret any of it, each brewing method has its own nuances that can highlight different coffees. Cheers! ☕️
Hello again!
So I’ve been enjoying my journey. I did graduate to a V60 and upgraded from the Fellow Ode gen 1 grinder to the Fellow Ode Gen 2 grinder with the upgraded SSP MP burrs $$$.
I still use the Fellow Stag XF with certain beans. Others, I just have to go with an ultra fine grind and use the V60.
I definitely appreciate your insights on the different products. So for me, the Fellow Stag XF is kind of like your first electric guitar. It’s basic enough, yet offers one with enough complexity to learn and grow. The V60 on the other hand is more of a nylon string classical guitar. It’s significantly more complex and unforgiving, however, with it’s complexity comes enormous utility and a much broader user index.
I’ve greatly enjoyed this extraordinary journey and your contributions to the pour over coffee aficionado community are most appreciated!
Thank you so much for all you do!
John.
I found your video while looking for a comparison between the Kalita and Fellow drippers. You gave great explanations and the production quality is impressive. I learned a lot!
Thank you! Hope you learned something!
Great video 👍 I was just wait for any comparison to the taste or characteristics of coffee between the three types
You're totally right, I missed out on the opportunity to share that info. I think that all of the three types can produce great coffee, but here are my takeaways.
The Kalita and the Fellow produce very similar coffees, which makes sense if you compare the geometry, filter paper, and hole size. Compared to the V60, these two drippers produce coffee that's has more body and intensity. I think the reason for that is twofold: they both restrict flow to a degree, and they both are going to retain heat better than my ceramic V60.
All in all, I think the Kalita and Fellow will be more forgiving at coarser grind settings than the V60, but you won't be unhappy with any of them.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate you stopping by!
@@brewingjitsu Great info! Would one be more suited than another for different roast levels?
@@ThunderRunner I think that any of these could work for most coffees, but I think you will get a better control over dark roasts with something that is less restrictive, like the V60. I think you could get great results with any of them, but the V60 will require the most precise grind out of all of them, so that is something worth considering. Thanks for stopping by!!
I was thinking the same question! 😜 I’ve only been into coffee since October 2020 and I keep wanting to try other methods! Thx for the unboxing!👍
Awesome, glad it was helpful! Hope you learned something about these drippers!
What do you believe is the optimal recipe for light roasts with the stagg pour over device?
I don’t think there’s such a thing as an optimal recipe but here’s an example of a recipe that I use that should work very well for a Kalita 185 or a Stagg XF. Start with a grind size around 600 microns and adjust from there:) I find that I generally have to grind finer for the Stagg XF.
0:00
Bloom - 50g
0:30
Heavy Spiral Pour -
160g
0:45
Spiral Pour - 220g
1:05
Spiral Pour - 280g
1:30
Spiral Pour - 340g
2:00
Spiral Pour - 400g
Drain 3:30
hey man the quality of your b-rolls are amazing. hope your channel blows up one day (pretty sure it will).
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it, I do love making B-Roll😁
So well done Matt!!!
Thanks Diana! Miss you both!
Excellent video dude! Love your video style and explanations! Subscribed!
Thank you! Appreciate you stopping by ☕️
Good comparison, detail by detail.
Thank you!
for some reason I was sorely disappointed I didn't get to watch you pour water through an empty v60
Lol I wanted to, but I can't shoot slow enough motion to make it look good...but I might be able to soon!
Great and informative review but as others have noted, a bit abrupt on the ending. Anyway, I wanted to know if the Stagg XF Dripper can be used directly over a 12oz Fellow Carter Move Mug. I would love to skip having to do the carafe part. Thanks.
You're totally right on the end, still learning and working to improve the flow of my videos from start to finish. But to answer your question, totally, you can easily brew from the XF dripper into the Carter Move, I don't think it'll be a problem at all. Given that both the XF and the Carter are vacuum insulated, the one thing I'd say is that your coffee will stay hot (maybe even too hot) for a long time! But that might be a good thing, depending on how you drink your coffee. Mine never lasts that long ;)
@@brewingjitsu that's good to know. Thanks! And yes, I do find the Carter keeps the coffee hot and too efficient that I often have to wait as it's too hot.. BTW, your dog is super cute 😍
Can you use the Kalita 155 filters on the Stagg X?
Can the xf fit 60 grams of grinds?
Love the video man! I work for at a roastery and would for you to review our coffee some time! We are in LA!
Would love to connect and talk about your coffee! Shoot us an e-mail at brewingjitsu@gmail.com, and we can talk!
What is the difference between the XF and the X maker? I looked at the Fellow site but it wasn't very clear as to which one is the best, I only need it to make one cup of coffee, but I like it strong. Thanks
The XF is bigger, usually for two cups, while the X is for one cup only.
The fellow single cup brewer is the one I use for my every day brew. I also have the XL and the large Glass vessel.
I just find that fellows design is designed around a specific size filter. On purpose so they can go with you big dollars for future filter purchases. I found a filter for my small fellow that works fairly decent. I found it on Amazon but it comes out of China so I’m sure to rinse the paper well prior to Bring a cup. Which intern slows down the drip process. Resulting in a slightly stronger brew. I think I’m going to enlarge the holes on the bottom of the follow brewer to increase flow slightly.
The reason the filters slow things down is you lose the pleats. By rinsing the filter material. It just increases the time of the pour over too much. That’s why I’m thinking larger holes would definitely help. I just refuse to pay their inflated price for paper filters they’re insane!!!
Are there any other brands of filters out there they’re more affordable that fit fellow products??
According to Fellow, They recommend their own filters, but Kalita 185 and Blue Bottle filters work as well. I am possibly heading down a similar route. I am torn between buying the Hario Decanter size 03 with a Kalita 185 ceramic dripper, or the Fellow Stagg XF. If i buy the fellow, i am going to test the cheaper alternatives.
@@easytiger266 yeah, fellow recommends there filter and then gouges you for big dollars$$$!!!! I found a Chinese made filter with a little bit of a fold. It fits perfect. They’re reasonably priced, but I’m sure to rinse them since they’re from China. It does rinse the paper taste out very quickly by rinsing with hot water.
Good comparison.
Thanks, appreciate you stopping by!
Sweet video! Subbied!
Glad you liked it, thanks for checking it out!
WOW That was anticlimactic! :)
No doubt gotta work on my conclusions 😂. Next video is gonna be all conclusions in short-form, stay tuned, and thanks for stopping by!
For real - 'Final Thoughts' was 70 seconds of B-Roll, 15 seconds of actual final thoughts
4 lol I have like 20