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#CancelCulture #ContraPoints #LindsayEllis
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"If it has a name it has power"
YOU CANT HURT ME IF I CAN'T SEE YOU
**steps on rake**
For a group that proclaims itself to be rational, logical and forward thinking;
Why always the mysticism and the woo-woo stuff?
@@Snakedude4life Because logic is relative to them, much like the truth.
Trump lost you mad bro
@@newsxcxfrce2585 Well, lost by illegal means so... yeah? Can't I be mad at that?
@@newsxcxfrce2585 funny how you guys show up again when the audit starts
Imagine intentionally harassing a desk worker into a mental breakdown then think you are the victim.
And then posting it
Only an asshole would do that just to make selves feel better about their sad lives.
@@evan12697 yeah. how would you post that thinking you looked good.
The man was just trying to do his job and could've offered a solution and not had a breakdown if his job wasn't being threatened.
I didn't commit the crime... they made me do it
"This is not persecution, it's atonement!" - Inquisitor (1557AD)
"This is not cancelling, it's atonement!" - Verified blue checkmark (2021AD)
But they did and that comment is so true.
No, no, no... If you plead guilty and atoned for the Inquisition, they usually let you go. There is no forgiveness in modern cancel culture.
I get so mad when people film other people in total distress. Have some common humanity for a person who is obviously broken down...
@@CoffeeFresh_ human decency buys better human societies.
I bet you the masks have something to do with it since studies have shown they dehumanize people
They don’t view other people as human.
According to critical theory & identity politics, people are not individuals with agency & inherent value. Every ‘person’ is merely an instance of their various overlapping identity traits. They are, therefore, participants (“complicit”) in whatever sins the other identity groups want to assign to them. Their idea of “justice” is twisted, perverse, nonsensical, and, ultimately, untenable. They demand “accountability” from people, but don’t allow for the freedom to choose otherwise. For example, if you are white, or straight, or male, etc, you can’t *help* but be an oppressor. You must atone for your original (and inescapable) sins, but you will *never* be forgiven.
This is why they hate everything and everyone, including themselves. They’ve made everyone an un-person while simultaneously assigning the “oppressed” minority-du-jour very human feelings of sadness, resentment, pain, rage, and fear - which are all justified, regardless of whether they accurately reflect reality, so long as said minority group claims that they are justified. They weaponize our western (“hegemonic”) morality and the belief that it is unacceptable to cause harm to people, in spite of the inherent dehumanization required by their “justice”-oriented ethics... so who can be harmed when no one is really a person?
It’s sick, psychotic, and sadistic - and wholly impenetrable to any logic or reason. No apology will ever be enough.
So we deplorable and “oppressive” normies must reject the entire system outright. There’s no value to arguing with it or trying to convince its adherents that it’s a load of nonsensical garbage. Never apologize, never kneel, and never admit that even a shred of what they say is true. Mock them or ignore them. This is the only way we can move on.
Everything in life is a reality TV show now, regardless of anyone involved wants it or not.
But how does that let me grift?
"He feared for his safety!" While the guy tried to remove himself from the situation after a meltdown and the guy chased him to continue recording
Hit the nail on the head. He wasn’t afraid at all. He was bullying him.
Guy hits himself, professionall black man "you are taking it out on me"
He feared he might lose his viral shot, maybe
yup, that's black people for ya
Flight or fight. He did not choose flight, and did not fight. He was just being an asshole
“Cancel culture is like political correctness in the 90’s just a conservative scapegoat” ah yes the most conservative people known to man
Bill Maher
George Carlin
Sam Harris
Dave chappelle
But they are ' conservative ' because they don't follow ' the good people ' (aka woke loons).
@@thetechnocrat4979 No that would make them Nazis
Bill Maher is kind of conservative but yeah the rest are liberals or leftist
@@S.D.323You’ve seen his show, right?
Right?
ContraPoints really just said
_"I know that probably sounds super dystopian..._ *_BUT-"_*
Pretty sure that was intentional irony.
@@CynicalBastard She's doing the thing where you realize you're saying something really bad so you layer it in irony but you still actually mean it.
@@CynicalBastard "it's just a prank bro"
@@parsleyisthicc Pretty sure it's just politics.
I'm keeping that clip because they also pointed out that there is canceling and people know what it is; something you can use if some smoothbrain says "there's no cancel culture" but need to appeal to authority to change their minds.
"way less dystopian than what we currently have"
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Things are opposite things
It seems more Kafka today then Orwellian. There are all of these confusing things people gripe over in hysteria to the point of lunacy. Most thing's online are being watched by everyone and no one knows how to deal with them. It's more of a bureaucracy than anything else.
And having common sense is bad.
Men are women. Women are men.
Silence is violence?
Eat the bug
Man, that Holiday Inn employee. Poor guy. There's something sociopathic about watching a man sobbing and physically injuring himself and thinking "this is an attack on /me/"
A man shouldnt be acting like that.
He needs to grow a pair.
This weakness spread by the Left is what's wrong with the West.
Good news is he's doing better from a post he made on reddit I think
@@stevepalpatine2828 No they shouldn't. It doesn't mean that you get to film this guy and try to ruin his life on social media. That's when you just point blank say, "Get someone who can actually get things done here and leave man. You shouldn't be crying on the job."
@@stevepalpatine2828 He felt his life was being threatened, it was a real fear. Think if someone put a gun to your head and filmed you would you act like a man? No, I don't think you would.
@@Ask4This Wouldnt be the first time I've had guns aimed at me or bullets zip past my head.
I've served my time bro I've been in firefights before.
I did what was necessary to get me and my buddies out.
When it's your time it's your time.
Crying and acting like a bitch just makes you pathetic.
"That's a fast track to Spoonyville"
I've gotta use that, it's too good
I hear Spoonyville was supposed to have a expansion but the project got aborted in half way through.
HAHAHA
I will also refer to gamergate as goobergaters
Love your channel
Styx says CLANK
I felt so bad for the Holiday Inn employee, like, have some empathy towards people with mental issues, not straight up whip out a camera and attempt to ruin their life.
People have lost their humanity in this social media era
Social media was supposed to bring us together but instead idiots used it as a weapon.
So true, no one gives anyone any grace anymore😓
You know what this means? Track down the person who filmed this and have them fired. I'm sure that this will absolutely not backfire at all. /s
Our existence have extended to the net, a black hole that will spout away incorrigible feedback to the people who interact with it, reshaping their minds from the net's reaction of their input.
Don't revolve your existence in these corpo made net of interactions.
@@pkmntrainernumbers8111 You cannot tame the "Animal" it will come back to consume you. If we did have the loser who recorded the hotel employee's mental break down fired from his job he will just cry racism. Then the "Animal" will turn around and come for the one who sent it.
Notice the presence of Twitter in this video.
Don't you think if Twitter were nuked tomorrow, humanity would make a sharp improvement?
If it's anything like how Tumblr fell and Twitter took in the degenerates, they'll probably move to facebook... Maybe
Yes!
@@lloydalvarez2819 Twitter was always, always way worse than Tumblr. I dunno how Twitter avoided so much criticism.
@@GreenGearMood TBH i've never seen twitter leak into my social media until the great migration... Maybe it just wasnt noisy enough then...
@@GreenGearMood If it was nuke today the twitter losers will rush to rebuild it because Twitter is their whole life without it they will die or go insane.
If people have to live in fear of saying the "wrong thing", I don't care if they call it consequences or cancel culture. The problem remains that I can never meet a persons true self because they will not show it. And that is not the world that I am here to experience.
Well said. Your freedom to speak is other people's freedom to hear.
Growing up, my parents were divorced and there was always a bit of a cold war going on. Say the wrong thing to one parent and the other will have to hear about it.
Part of becoming an adult for me was taking off all those screens in front of the real me I had to put up. Until I did, I couldn't meet friends or really love my life.
These people want everyone walking on eggshells forever. That's hell on earth, their life's work is enacting hell on earth, and it's no wonder they're so miserable if they think that's a goal worth fighting for.
Welcome to blue collar America lol
Sounds like communism. Nobody trusts anybody else because they may inform on what they said, makes life less worth living and everybody knows it but you have the few power hungry karens that feed off screwing others over and because they like it they put the time in and others are too busy to shut the karens down.
@@craigcutler6919 That's totalitarianism in general, really. The Commies did it the best, but ANY society that doesn't draw a hard line between the personal, private life and the political, public life is going to be left with paranoia and mistrust as the default. Privacy isn't just morally desirable; it's also pragmatic if you want people to be productive and content.
The way I like to define Cancel Culture is “A coordinated attempt to ruin the livelihood of a person for minor and/or unproven offenses”.
You missed one in your definition. Imaginary offences. They will weaponize ANYTHING they can (even when intent and context isn't what they claim it is) because that's how they get off on their "holy purpose" of doing "right" in the world. Their "lenses", after all, sees nothing but their perspective, and they can't (and won't) see that something can have multiple interpretations, or different meanings (because they want to control the meaning of every word). :/
I already see it, I likely shouldn't be in a social job due to disability but I find interest in child care jobs.
Already I see cancel culture putting their sights after me just because I happen to have drawings of child characters on my computer or something, they're going ro use animé as means to justify calling me a child pre dator on camera as I suffer a meltdown. It's going to happen, just see.
There’s a word for it, it’s persecution.
@@violenceislife1987 that is considered minor yes
"Why are you trying to burn me? I'm no witch. You should burn my neighbor, she's the witch!" - Lindsay Ellis, ca 1693 (colorized)
I loved the "mask off" video. It was her essentially enacting her hierarchical power to gaslight the inquisitors she's created.
*colonized
"She turned me into a newt!... It got better."
Sounds about right.
Hearsay is alive and well, it seems.
Not too late to become hermits and finding peace in solitude like Buddha
"This is going to sound dystopian" proceeds to explain something completely dystopian.
If it waddles like a duck, if it quacks like a dog, then it is the fckng Catalina Wine Mixer.
8:25 The fact that he waited so long to release it is what makes his act truly diabolical. He wasn't doing it for justice or even revenge; it did it because he just wanted to hurt her. If he gave a crap that she used that word and was actually offended, he'd have told on her immediately.
Yup. The creep just looks like a greasy little incel so I guess he has to act like it. We all KNOW that he asked this girl out in high school and she rejected him, that's the ONLY reason why he did that
I remember when that story came out. I thought that guy was such a miserable bastard that my teeth hurt.
like a snake lying in wait...
Really throws a wrench into race relations. If white people think there's a possibility the people they're being 'allies' towards might nuke them over something petty, it will definitely make them more insular.
@@Shockguey if am sure that if he had asked her out, she is more glad than ever that she said no. Imagine the dirt he would have on her if he was her ex.
Not even "told on her" he would have sorted it out privately and not dragged the university into the matter
"Being gay/trans is a choice again." I never thought about this until now...I never thought we'd regress this far back...
Meanwhile, US universities are bringing segregation back.
It's a point I've been confused about when they yell gender is just a social construct. I really don't think they can see past the argument in front of them and that's how they are able to hold many conflicting views like this.
that's modern progressives for you - all the progress made since the 60's is problematic and bad, and the only way to fix it is to not only undo all of it, but make it even worse.
@RUclipsplaylist RUclipsplaylist I'm not sure if your joking or not... it's a very bad thing, honestly at this point we should be encouraging our kids into blue collar jobs. They pay a lot and no one puts up with the segregation nonsense
@RUclipsplaylist RUclipsplaylist coming from a blue collar family I don't think you're aware of how many jobs are put there. My Grandfathers worked in flooring and drapery. My dad was an electrician before joining the military, he's going back after retiring. They've worked hard and they still have time for family and vacations. There are unhealthy areas but there are plenty that are not
That holiday inn video has to be one of the saddest things ive ever seen. the way he says "you ruined my whole life man" is super heartbreaking. imagine being the guy who harasses a customer service employee to the point of a mental breakdown, records it, tries to escalate it further, uploads the video to twitter, then has the audacity to claim to be the victim in the situation, and calls HIM a Karen, then tries to make it a racial situation too.
It was racial from the beginning.
Where was the manager?
Yup. You can thank the blacks for that.
The reactions that employee had are literally textbook responses of somebody with high functioning autism put in a really stressful situation. Trust me that the filmer was in no danger, when I'm in that state I can bearly speak blow attack somebody. If he was going to attack it would have been instant not after he punched the minister (that's deflection which is an attempt to deescilate)
Yesterday:
Contrapoints: "I support struggle sessions!"
Today:
Contrapoints: "Why are people cancelling me?!"
Watched the actual video a long time ago so my memory is hazy but IIRC contrapoints suported struggle sessions as a part of regular cancel culture in order to give the canceled some way to actually be forgiven. Don't remember how much she actually supports this "improved" version of cancel culture or just sees it as a less bad version.
Kind of like what SFO says at 14:48 (but it might depend on the execution and again, forgot a lot of what was actually said in that video)
Never apologize to the mob... Never let them control your narrative. The second youre defending yourself as "not what you've been labeled" they have you in their world, force them to play by your rules
Its not even about not apologizing. DO NOT ENGAGE at all.
They take an apology as an admission of wrongdoing... which (to them) justifies them doing whatever they want to do to you.
@@violenceislife1987 The actual Inquisition had to give 30 days notice before they came to your town.
Ironically, _Everybody_ expected the Spanish Inquisition...
Yup this is why if I were to ever get big I would be edgy a bit. Not only because I like edgy humour but also since that keeps the woke crowd away from being fans. If a good part of your audience is made up of these people then cancelation can be tougher to deal with.
It was sad to see that Holiday Inn guy break down. I understand how hard it is to find a job. And knowing you are going to lose your job and also get canceled is a tough burden to bear.
As someone who worked on computers in a public setting, it probably wasn't even his fault. When you have rotating staff at a desk, someone can input something wrong, or forget something, or a trainee could have made a mistake (since a lot of jobs do "on the job training", and then likes to chew out their trainees for doing something wrong the first time around). The guy probably knew when the encounter escalated that he was minus his job - the customer should have asked to speak to the manager if no resolution could have been reached with the desk clerk. The desk clerk can't do whatever he likes - he has very definite limits to actions he can take.
Wish I could say that behavior is the exception, but I've seen (and experienced) several instances like that. People jumping to conclusions because 'hitting back" at low paying employees (who they consider below them) makes them feel good and superior. :/
@@sigmacademy I work call center for our version of social security. Specifically dealing with students. You wouldn’t beleive how much abuse you will get. It’s easier over the phone I’d hate to do it face to face.
Regarding this "beast" of theirs, at what point will they recognise that they're in a cult?
As a fan of definitions I wouldn't really call them that. You usually have central figures in a cult.
This may sound like I'm obfuscating, what I'm trying to say is this is in fact worse than a cult, because it's a monster with no head.
“The beast” is not even an original concept.
The sword of Damocles is traditionally used for when people in power feel a sense of looming doom.
She knows the sword is there and is about to drop down but at the moment she is feeling good because she is in power.
they won't because that would mean agreeing with there opposition
@@Shockguey You usually have central figures, but that is not a necessity for a cult.
After Jonestown, then we can all have a mighty fine laugh about the whole thing. Assuming we are still alive
If this thing exists, it already has a name. It's just that they refuse to acknowledge it. Because, if they do, they can't deny that it is a harmful problem any more.
And since acknowledging the problem is the first step to getting rid of it. They don't want to do so.
It is also extremely childish to ignore something just because you want to believe it doesn't exist as that will give the other side more power but as you know how childish intersectionalists are. Yes. All of them.
You missing the point of them refusing to accept the given names to it. There is undeniable public proof of who started cancel culture and current form of psychotic political correctness (since those people quite publicly were quite vocal in their persecution of others, for the "greater good of society"). They are giving it a new new name so that they can smear someone else as its "creator". That way, they don't lose the support (and the power that goes along with it). It's a mechanism of preservation of their personal legitimacy and influencer power they hold in the public arena. :/
Lindsay Ellis getting canceled was the biggest case of leftists eating their own I've seen in a long time.
The best part is it was over something completely mundane and she was 100% correct in calling out Diet Anime.
It's like she got jumped for looking at someone's girlfriend the wrong way.
Leftists: Cancel Culture doesn't exist! Alex Jones deserved it.
Also Leftists: I've been canceled! But cancel culture still doesn't exist.
More sophistry from leftists.
White women are not going to be protected by the left anymore mark my words.
just wait until contra gets canceled. (Again)
@@thhrjdh5564 I thought Contra was once canceled back in 2019.
16:19 notice how happy she sounds. She clearly thinks that she would be the one on the panel with the power and never the one facing it!
it's like a glimpse into her dark soul! I get more power to bend people to my will! "YES!"
These people are morally bankrupt to the core.
This is a common thread with the things the alt left advocate for.
'Society would be perfect if I was allowed to get rid of the people who think the wrong way.'
They literally don't concieve of the fact that they might be on the recieving end of this attitude, and it shows.
She doesn't know what she's getting into when she thinks she always be the one in control.
Nope. The people who advocate for this KNOW (or think they know) they will never be on the receiving end of these "tribunals". And you missed the "redeemed comrade" sentiment. It's not for us wrong thinkers. It's an out for "their members" who have been caught in an "mistake" somewhere in their past. :/
@@sigmacademy I didn't exactly miss it. It just wasn't the focus of my comment. You are correct though on two points:
1) it is mostly to benefit themselves, not say Alex Jones or someone else they despise, they have no pity or mercy for them. and:
2) when the tribunal is complete, it will not be enough to just admit your sins and go on with your life, the expectation is that from then on you will commit yourself fully to their cause.
the striking thing to me however, is that you can see in her face she was thinking of herself running a tribunal and passing judgement on others and craving the additional power.
These are the people who would decry Hitler or Mao or Stalin because of the killings and yet secretly envy them being at the head of that machinery because they could accomplish "great things" with it.
They would oppress the entire planet, but it would be okay because it was "for their own good".
in that moment, you can see the wheels turning and it is clear: she should never be allowed near any real power!
The receptionist vid always makes my blood boil. The guy behind the camera wasn't scared, he was a bully and a coward. He knew he was pushing his buttons, and that a large part of social media would make excuses for him.
9.50 - How on earth do you watch someone hurt themselves then just continue verballing berating them? He must have a complete lack of empathy.
"If we name our abusive behaviours people can call us out" how terrible
Hell is where you go when you can’t admit you’re wrong.
Dude, that just blew my mind.
I think this might be actually theologically correct too
@@Eichro I’m a theologian by training, an outcast in my field.
Pride cometh before the fall. Holy shit I just realized that's also a euphemism for pride month (June) coming before the fall (August/September)
"Raise crows and they will peck out your eyes."
-- Spanish proverb
The whole point of intersectionality is to muddy the waters of discourse and make it more difficult to get things done.
Hell, did she even see the DSA where the speakers were constantly interuppted by the audience over ridiculous microagressions?
Sounds like she knows her ideology is toxic, but isnt willing to admit it and instead identifies criticism of it as a threat against her ideology.
If criticism threatens to dismantle your ideology, it's not a very good ideology to begin with.
The question is, how long will they desperately be able to convince themselves that "tHe FaR rIgHt iS tHe ReAl pRoBlEm"
Not really: the point of intersectionality is to bring everything under a single umbrella (in terms of social critique)/ Maybe that is muddying the waters, as it were: but the point of intersectionality is clearly just as it says: intersectional.
"... for 11 hours"
Well, as an EFAP viewer, that length is completely normal.
Hi Rags!
Longman is indeed good
Its comes across as normal so long as you got some good rat with you.
I don't understand how they do it, and regularly.
@@saerain Their whole career is sitting at home making videos about political and social commentary, of course they've got the time to regularly do it, they're living every humanities students dream.
"if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." said the brown shirts to the people hiding the franks in their attic.
9:23 When I tell people social media makes people sociopaths, this clip is exactly what I'm talking about. This poor guy, who likely didn't make the mistake himself, is being held to account for it, and blasted onto the internet. The poor employee has a freaking nervous breakdown on camera and the other guy feels no sympathy for him at all. The guy videoing *knows* he can bully him into submission by threat of social media piling on, regardless of context of the actual event. Considering the person posting, I can't help but there are racial bias undertones to it too.
If people didn't have phones to record or ability to summon a social media mob on demand, this interaction would have played out differently. 100% I assure you this would have played out differently. The problem would have calmly been fixed, the guy would calmly thank him, and move about their day. We don't have to live in a world like this.
@Sabastian Bragg the trick is to adapt to it.join a form of tribalism such as ethnic nationalism,religious nationalism,political tribalism,etc that has enough power and numbers that you think it can protect you when other tribe come to hunt you down.individuals will only be hunted down.
@@rassilkrishnan3120 rather die standing than live kneeling to the cancel culture.
"If we admit that this is a problem, then the right will just take it and run with it, and use it to increase their own power. - Lindsay
They would rather their kingdom burn and its people suffer then to allow their foes a single opportunity of victory. To be so spiteful to those whom they disagree, that they'd willingly sit on a throne on fire over no throne at all.
Even political opponents can come together on an issue of mutual concern. The fact that one side FLAT OUT refuses to have any dealings with the others, highlights an inability to compromise on issues that should really matter. :/
Those people see no humanity. They have no love. No sane person can look at a scared man break down and come away saying that it's not fair on the person providing the verbal abuse and implicitly threatening the person's job and life. There's a difference between saying that the person wasn't up for the job and excusing abuse because of it. These people have no sympathy, when they see a man break down in fear, instead of taking a step back and wondering if perhaps they missed something, they double down and forget that other people exist.
Psychopaths
Humans have mirror neurons, all mammals and birds have mirror neurons. Mirror neurons are what give you your emotions, your empathy, your sympathy, your ability to love, your self awareness. Leftists only have lizard brains just like crocodiles.
The enormous amount of supportive and caring messages on the gofundme restored some of my faith in humanity that was wiped out by the fact of that video existing.
@@maltardraco9555 that's pop neuroscience for ya
Anyone who acts like the guy who bullied that Holiday Inn employee is a stain on any community they claim to be a part of.
I like to think 1. I would never goad someone into a reaction like that and 2. I would be a hydro homie
"You ok dude? You want to get some water and take a few deep breaths? Life is stressful, being dehydrated is bad, I can wait a few minutes. Relax my dude"
I definitely am not going to shove a smart phone in their face and try to cause a mental breakdown.
The "community" in this case being "the human species"
"For uh.. 11 hours"
Dev that's the type of additude that will stop you from going on efap.
You should say it's only 11 hours
We must compel Dev to join with the Eternal Hate Mongers of the Toxic Brood. It is inevitable.
You'd think that they could edit those down a little better
Lindsay might see this video and be like "ABORT!"
Fuck.
I hear if you put your ear to her belly you hear ghostly wails and tiny chains rattle
@@drewbakka5265 No life won't grow there because the soil is too toxic.
@@SlimSamari it did once. Before it was blighted
@@drewbakka5265 So the soil did once had life growing before it was ripped out of the ground.
Lindsey, it's almost like your side is full of evil and you can't acknowledge it otherwise you have no choice but to admit that evil.
If they admit they were wrong, they know they have to face the consequences. Their "anxiety" is about WHAT EXACTLY those consequences are, which is why they refuse to admit they enthusiastically pushed it, and would rather settle on it being a "misunderstood concept" or a "hijacked idea", since they believe that relieves them of any responsibility done under their banner. I could point to the fact that they VASTLY over-exaggerate the consequences, since the only thing they need to do is apologize for their behavior (publicly) and stop trying to steamroller over people they disagree with, but apparently that is too much of an ask. :/
A job once tried to fire me for posting that "men like young women" online. I asked them to spell out, exactly, what was wrong with my post and why it was worthy of all our time. They stuttered, slipped, insulted me.. but couldn't point out any wrongdoing on my part. I went back to work vindicated, and now the manager that insulted me is in hot water himself.
Think about filing a report or grievance about workplace harassment on him for what he did; clearly trying to bully and intimidate you. Make sure to twist the knife when you can; make sure to highlight that he tried to punish you for expressing a sexual preference. It might be the little push your employers need to let him go.
It may appear morally suspect, but remember he tried to do the same to you without remorse and probably wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
@@Gilberto90 I pick my battles, and I already won that one. No need to dig in deeper, I do enjoy my work. Karma will get it's due.
@@tachikazetyler2916 Fair enough, tbh I agree it's usually better to let sleeping dogs lie if they've already been dealt with in a satisfactory way.
Yes this is a bad thing. I'm not sure what your point is though.
@@mechanomics2649 my point is, f around and find out.
Kinda ironic to see internet closing people's mind and willingness to express themselves rather than opening up discussions and expand mutual understanding, I guess human don't deserve nice things or even if we have one we will turn it into a WMD
""Culture of fear [...] where one missstep can ruin your live" - well sounds like living in some authoritarian dystopia to me. Gee Lindsay, I wonder why that is.
I've been looking at the list of naughty words and ideas that scroll past, and we might as well just add SANITY to that list. For in the realm of the mad, only the insane have strength to prosper.
"sanity" is way to psychonormative for my taste
"Only those who prosper may define what is truly sane." It's rather important to include the second half of that.
That poor holiday inn worker 😭 bullied by a narcissistic racist customer. People in customer service can't fight back, almost always. That's how you lose a job. Congrats, you used your power over somebody else to try and ruin their life.
When the Holiday Inn guy cried off screen, I started whimpering with him. My empathy was off the charts. I feel so sad for that man.
My guy, Gamer Gate wasn’t just a bunch of salty fans with a chip on their shoulder. It was a coalition of incredibly disparate groups, both politically and religiously, who came together because they couldn’t believe what they were witnessing. They saw illegal activity running rampant in the world of video games journalism: people getting huge monetary rewards for sleeping with the right guy, or for giving the right company a five-star review. That’s entirely different than the cancel mob, which is a mass of ideologically homogeneous hive-mind activists who can suffer no dissidents to their ever-shifting and contradictory creed. They cancel because the person they dislike doesn’t measure up to their nebulous standards, not because they’re doing something actually illegal or morally abhorrent.
Did you finish the video? He agrees with you.
This reminds me of a tiktok video that said that Charles Xavier could stop racism by mind controlling everyone to stop being racist, and a bunch of the comments were say ing that he should of done that and that they would give up free will to stop racism. They are seriously insane.
Why are you taking some idiots on tiktok seriously? lmfao
@@mechanomics2649 because unfortunately, they're getting to the youth more than anybody else.
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" as an old police platitude is funny. Point a camera at them when doing something dodgy and see that theory melt away
These people are insane. And the only reason they say this is good is because they can't see it happening to them.
No, the only reason they say it's "good," is because if they don't, it WILL happen to them.
There is NEVER a reason to make fun of someone for something they can't control. Unless you're friends with that person, if you ever do that, you WILL get what's coming to you.
I make fun of my friend's autism at times. Fucking Predator calling it the next step in evolution... yeah. In return he jests about my speech impediment, but it's all in good jest.
And that’s why I make fun of people for their choices :)
@@MrMestapholese Yeah, It's all banter if It's between friends :)
@@ethanmorrison6199 Best way to roast someone, honestly.
...Except being Bolivian.
That poor guy behind the desk, shocking, customer service staff have to put up with a lot.
Heck, MOST people have to deal with a lot who has to use the telephone (or e-mail) in a public service industry. You won't believe how despicable people can get when there's no accountability for their words. And almost to a fault, it's almost ALWAYS people who are more well off or in a position of power that has that attitude. :/
@@sigmacademy
It's either the really wealthy or the the lowest of the poor that are the worst.
Personally, I've never been too worried about being cancelled. I come from a different era of the internet where if you share identifiable information, pictures of yourself, etc. You were considered stupid beyond stupid. Always be anonymous. I stayed away from Twitter, FB, Insta... right from the start. I'd say my positions are only more and more vindicated as more time passes. Even putting cancelling aside, I've never heard someone who has quit social media or been banned say it's been a bad thing for them after having a while to reflect on it.
16:10 is terrifying. and they way they all so enthusiastically agree is horrible. These are literally the people and attitudes that put people in camps.
Dude all 3 of them were fucking canceled like 6 months later too absolutely hilarious
How happy they are about struggle sessions, they need a straight jacket and a nicely padded room.
For their own Safety, and the greater good.
They're literally advocating for the spanish inquisition to root out the heretics among the conversos and bring them to repentance.
@@thecompareablezombie Some idiot closed down all of the asylums now we're stuck with the looney tunes.
That conversation was so chilling.
Nah, they should get the same as those "convicted" of being an class enemy by the red guard mob back in the cultural revolution in China.
Great to see you again. Hope you’re doing better
To admit it would be tacitly admitting that theyve been genuinely despicable people for the best part of a decade, and thats never gonna happen. All you can do is spurn these degenerates as soon as possible to avoid future complications. Better to have few or no friends than friends who will readily stab you in the back at the first given opportunity.
I always sniffed something fishy about Lindsey she always seemed to hold such contempt for those that were more successful than herself now we know why.
Probably because her success was always tied to someone else
@@Wulfen73 Pretty much, she was primarily known for being the nostalgia chick which is connected, and she grew bitter about that over the years
@@jjjmadness8306 I think the bitterness is that "Nostalgia Chick" Is still the highlight of her professional career. No one cared about Chez Apocalypse, no one cares about her now, she has the connections to get work that no one looks at like any of the talentless twitter brigade.
And not to be a pig, cause it will sound it but she clearly feels her looks (A major part of her popularity, lets not be shy here she clearly was aware it was a draw based on her older videos heavily sexualized humor (I can still find gifs of her being hit in the face with hot dogs)) are fading, she really really piles the makeup on nowadays, it struck me immediately when I saw her in this video just how heavily made up she is. That and every picture used for her online seems to be her a decade younger.
@@Wulfen73 Doug was nothing but nice to her and yet she openly mocks him to his face. Say what you will about channel awesome as a whole but she would be nothing without his involvement with her.
@@1810jeff I agree lol
“The beast has no name”
Ouroboros or Cancel Culture, take your pic for the name.
Witch trials, McCarthism, Cancel culture, political correctness, mob justice,
It's like humanity can't learn a damn lesson.
"New video everyday" *2 weeks ago sans the Scrump drama vid*
But I hope your health gets better you coofer.
working on it
@@ShortFatOtaku glad you're still around. Anythijg planned for the future?
I'm glad somebody said it. lol
The call for Interrnet confession councils sounds like the new morality police. It sounds frightening.
I find it far more cringe-worthy, when the idea sounds like EXACTLY something like Reality TV networks would have come up with. :/
I saw Dev, got here as fast as I could.
Honestly, Far Leftists have to have their culture defined onto them, because no matter what they try to think does not apply to them, it becomes incessant with them.
Rules for thee but not for me. Typical pinko-swine behavior
@@xdrowssap4456 At this stage we simply can't afford to give any left wing opinionators the benefit of the doubt anymore. To not assume ignorance, but to ascribe all their intents towards malice. I think that original value, which is the inverse, has been the most abused thing in public discourse that they have, over decades, raped beyond any point of recovery, so long as we keep playing into it.
They don't like to clearly define themselves, but take any attempt at definition from others as an attack.
They go for easy moral aphorism causes such as BLM and Anti-Fa and Feminism, and yet when there's clear abuse coming from those types they can't directly organise and cut down the example of corruption. Or blatantly ignore horrific outcomes from the policies they religiously cling to, like the entire migrant crisis and its joining at the hip to both ineffectual NGOs and Human Trafficking.
They've spent the last 4 years demonising and calling into question everything that trump ever did, and yet elected if not possibly frauded in a bloody older man who has Dementia and a track record of doing *nothing.*
So, yeah, we should stop applying credibility to their ideologies, and their infrastructure, and the value systems they currently seem to all be transfixed with. Liberals will join us, and they can be the new left. We just have to cut the rest out completely and see their false idols brought low in the process. And wouldn't you know, they're doing it for us already.
You have a little brown on your nose.
@@craigcutler6919 you have a worthless guttersnipe comment I associate with drunk old bastards who die of cancer and constant resentment.
Cope harder.
@@siemino7444 It has nothing to do with being pinko. The far right does the same thing.
People like ContraPoints are beyond redemption
I love when she calls the twitter mob losers she works with her, "colleagues" like that somehow makes them important, right, and more official.
It is not enough to conserve culture. We must revive culture.
Rebuild, not revive.
"Who defines the psychopaths?"
I think I can do that.
Psychopath (n):
1. A racist who records an underpaid counter worker who is having a break down. This break down is motivated by fear because the man probably struggled (because of mental illness/disability) through a lot of interviews to get a job that any normal high school grad could get just by remembering to say, "yes sir, no sir," and is about to lose it because a racist had to broadcast the incident.
2. A person who harasses his inferiors for no real gain, just to feel the pleasure of watching someone defenseless suffer.
Jesus Christ dude you deserve such a bigger audience, out of all the people who make this style of commentary you seem by far the most well spoken, moderate and educated about every little thing you talk about. You should be hitting Sargons numbers if not more, it's just a shame that your channel name and avatar might possibly lead people to just write you off as "just some gamergater" or something. Keep up the fantastic work.
i personally believe at first that he was some anime channel cause of his name no joke
That clip of Contra literally, actually advocating for struggle sessions made my eyes leave their sockets. But then, it was followed immediately by the enthusiastic "YES!!!!!!" by the podcast host, and the rest of my organs left my body in protest.
I've just reassembled to type this out but...
Folks. They are evil. Yes, even Contra. "Her content is good and she's funny though" No, even entertaining this kind of acceptance of what she *PROBABLY KNOWS - BECAUSE SHE IS VERY WELL-READ AND INTELLIGENT* - is evil (Maoist struggle sessions) is a bridge too far. Because - as a well-read and intelligent leftist - I assume Contra and others have also read the basic revolutionary texts.
They KNOW what they are doing when they preface genuine evil with "Well, Y'know, I've had this thought that, like, maybe... we could... have redemption... moments? Kinda thing?" No. They are arguing for struggle sessions. They all KNOW that their every public appearance is another inch leftwards of the overton window. They KNOW what they're doing.
These people are genuine, psychopathic, power-hungry evil people. How can we stop them though?
Source: Sorry it's anecdotal, but I know multiple friends whose parents were put through struggle sessions (EDIT: and I have spoken with them and asked them about what they were willing to share), and then I went and read about them. You think online cancellation is bad? Try spending a week tied up to a post with your entire neighbourhood shouting at you IN SHIFTS, in the street, so that you can't sleep about how "counter-revolution" you are, while sometimes-boiling or sometimes-frigid water is tossed on you to keep you awake. Folks, you do NOT want "struggle sessions" to begin. At least if it ever happens in a Zoom call you can log off and try to deal with that action later on.
The Holiday Inn guy . . . and people were DEFENDING him . . . it’s moments like this that lead me to believe we have created a society that doesn’t give a crap how people treat each other. Ever. It only matters if an action can be taken as an insult towards a group. The lives and feelings of the individuals involved don’t matter. And we’re too stupid to realize that if we just held each other to the standard of being kind to individuals then we would also be kind to groups as a natural result.
Never. Leave. Again.
I was worried you punk! Yes, we now have a para-social relationship where you're my friend. I'm sorry you're sick, I hope you feel better soon. Sore throats are the absolute worst.
Last time I was this early Scrump was still dumping.
What happened? Have I missed something?
@@senorcapitandiogenes2068 Look at his video before this one. He and Scrump had a parting of ways.
@@senorcapitandiogenes2068 Dev and Scrump had a fallen out because Scrump was getting confrontational and then some Discord drama happened. Dev goes in good detail his side of the story in his last vid. Quite a shame, but friends falling out is just something that happens.
@@angelangelis8362 Ah thanks. No wonder I missed this. I DESPISE RUclips drama
Also, just play the devil's advocate, when James Gunn got cancelled for decades old weird twitter comments it was organised by Mike Cernovich and his merry band of macho conservatives.
That's it, that's the one instance of actual rightwing cancel culture that comes to mind.
30 years from now they will still use gamergate as some sort of big talking point i swear
this event really live Rent free in their heads
They still use Watergate, after all, and basically every president since Nixon has done the exact same thing but worse (aside from _maybe_ Trump, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a little bit of illegal surveillance on his behalf at some point)
> Encyclopedia Dramatica is far right 4chan supplement
Sounds like the words of someone who never used it. Encyclopedia Dramatica’s entire gimmick is “if you like it, we shit on it”
Encyclopedia Dramatica doesn't even exist anymore so I'm mystified as to why they'd even say that.
But it is, come on man, just like gamergate is sexist and kekistan is a 4chan made up nation of far right nazis and (insert phobic something Word here)
@@Draggao they talk about stuff they haven't seen, but the way media tells them to feel.
Anyone who thinks 4chan, Kiwi Farms, or Encyclopedia Dramatica are even a soft right-wing majority rather than being just as leftist as Twitter or Tumblr hasn't spent much time on any of those sites. They're just more willing to poke fun at leftist sacred cows and a _little_ less ban-happy when it comes to users posting what might be seen as unironic right wing sentiments.
@@Hammerhead547 ED has stopped existing completely _several times_ in the past decade, so yeah. Pretty irrelevant.
Man I go through a thing every time I see linsy.
First I think "man she's qt and thicc"
Then I remember her haunted womb and femenism
Cute?
Bruh, that cream cheese shade skin, heavy cover up and lipstick, and clearly not very well washed or at least conditioner-desperate hair?
Comeon, man.
EDIT: oh, and cue ball ass forehead?
I go through almost the opposite. I found Lindsay and started watching her stuff a few years ago, and (at the time) I thought she was very, very attractive. Time has been pretty brutal to her appearance though, and now every time I see her she looks like she's ten years older. I think she smokes like two packs of cigatettes a day and that's probably what's doing it. She also used to be very perceptive and interesting, while now she's a lot more cliche or contrived and isn't interesting to listen to anymore. It's like every time I see her all I see is old disgruntled cat lady. It's disappointing really.
The wall comes for all females.
@@alecstewart2612 You can tell she caked on multiple layers of make up, she has the skin complexion of mark hamill after his car accident.
"haunted womb" I love it, thank you
Watching Lindsay Ellis and ContraPoints complain about cancel culture is hilarious because they fanned the flames of this at the very beginning.
*You make the bed, you lie in it as well*
Contrapoints is only fearful because of all the skeleton's in "her" closet.
I felt bad at first for Lindsay. I don't like her but what she's being "Cancelled" for is bs. ....then she did her video and I lost sympathy. Idiot.
They deserve this. Lindsay didn't take any hit from this. The people advocating this deserve to have their entire careers and platforms stripped from them, and tossed into a fire. It won't happen anytime soon though. Wishful thinking I guess
She's just a coward that wants to dish it out but can't take it.
ContraPoints saying we should respect free speech when he said it was a TERF dogwhistle in his JKR video is a good example.
9:49 ffs. Treat the guy with some patience, generosity, and humanity. And condemn the abusive cameraman along with everyone engaging in apologetics for him.
In before accountability gets labeled problematic because those hypocrites think rules are for everyone else.
"We Individualists..." I know what you mean Dev, but the composition of that sentiment still made me lol.
Gamergate wasn't right wing. It also had nothing to do with games development. It's amazing how sitting on the Wikipedia page has really altered perceptions of what happened just a half decade ago.
"this may sound dystopian"
If you ever find yourself uttering this phrase,
Consider that you might be right...and then reconsider what your about to say.
Hmmm, interesting. You can't name it, but as observed by the HP series:
"Fear of the name increases fear of the thing itself."
And fear of something _does_ give it power.
“I know that sounds dystopian, but it’s way less dystopian than what we have.”
Adding dystopian policies on top of dystopian policies doesn’t get rid of dystopian policies, it literally creates more. I cannot fucking stand these people…
This was a fantastic break down. I've often wondered "how do i justify a boycott when i dont support cancel culture"? The a-political nature explains why boycotts are justified.
One is people refusing to support something they don't like, the other is trying to stop it from existing.
>This was a fantastic break down.
Maybe a bit of a poor choice of word, considering one of the clips in the video.
@@daviddechamplain5718 it’s the difference between, “i don’t agree with you, so i won’t give you my time, money, or attention” and “i don’t agree with you, so i’m going to get you fired from your job and forcefully interfere when you try to share your opinion anywhere.”
10 hour Sitch and Adam stream is love. 10 hour Sitch and Adam stream is life.
*No. We are not doing this again.*
I really wish they'd make sort of highlight reels of those thing because as fun as they can be I can't afford to spend an entire day watching them both in terms of attention span and the fact that if I did sit through the whole thing at once I'd get depressed over not really accomplishing anything that day.
@@GodOfOrphans ruclips.net/channel/UCfg3dDpJLqfBbD14bRv8mug
Here's the clip channel fren - much more digable. I hope that helps :)
@@GodOfOrphans you can listen to streams while doing other stuff, you know.
@@soandso3676 I know but I still never finish them even when multitasking.
18:49 "Don't antagonize" + "mock them mercilessly"
Okay. Sure. I'll get right on it after I get drunk and stay sober.
I think he means don't antagonise the regular people but mock the perpetrator endlessly.
@@maltardraco9555 yeah but when the waters are so muddy, the regular people and the perpetrators are one in the same in the end and that's part of the problem. The other part is the fact that they will never own up to their own misdeeds as we can clearly see
Bro that tariq nasheed clip was vile.
That clip on contrapoints around the 17:00 "I know it sounds super dystopian" then goes on to describe what is essentially the two minutes of hate from 1984 which would be comical had it not been serious. I know they constantly like to tell people to "educate" themselves but god damn I read the book in my third year of highschool.
"If it has a name then it has power. It's a discussion that cannot be had."
I know saying shit like this is old-hat so old the leather is turning to dust, but *that was the purpose of NewSpeak.* Remove the words and ideas from language that can be used to criticize or complain about the system.
"Not funny when it happens to me" Can't wait for Shoe0nhead's turn, she's literally a discount Linsday Ellis.
What did she do this time?
@@somethingedgy9914 Questioning the nonbinary terms of job professions, fat shaming, still friends with Vaush; she wants to show everyone that you can still be political incorrect and edgy while worshipping Karl Marx.
@@vicgc96Shoe's issue comes from being bombarded by shitlords sending her all kinds of nasty s**t - on her Twitter, on her comment sections, and I would imagine any other social media account she has too. Plus, they actually know her full name (and probably exactly where she lives, too). The fact that they are masquerading as coming from the same camp as rational people doesn't help any of us to help her break out of that environment. Because of that, she's leaning over more and more to that side of the spectrum (and I believe she was quite Left based on her content since I discovered her online). Also, the halo effect in the silo-ing of audiences on RUclipsr channels doesn't help a lot - audiences claiming their RUclipsr is the best thing since sliced bread, and every other RUclipsr that disagree is just plain wrong. The thing I don't get is that she's not exactly a younger RUclipsr - she should still remember the old newspaper and magazine articles covering all the consequences that that political ideology had on the regions of the world that was 'touched' by Marx.
I was quite disappointed to see her blasting the average Conservatives who was still trying to make an effort to reconcile with rational Democrats on a Leftie show (in a time period when both sides were equally in the wrong), and saying ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about what the Far Left was doing. Still love her comedy clips, but not sure I could watch anything else. :/
@@sigmacademy I can't speak for her but the far left's power is being projected by those spending their time whining about it. They're idiots on twitter, accept that they're there and move on. They don't represent leftists as a whole and they have no tangible power.
Also, I remember old newspaper articles, and current articles covering the consequences of Capitalism too. What's your point?
The thing people don't get is that consequences are supposed to be proportionate to the actions. Ruining someone's life with no chance of redemption is not a reasonable response to writing an offensive tweet 10 years ago. Though, I do find it a little funny when people who support cancel culture get it turned around on them.
Also, there's never a good reason to censor. Throughout history, the ones who've burned books have never been the good guys.
Just remind yourself: Your compassion is wasted on these people.
If I was watching that guy film the guy having a breakdown I'd have broken more than his nose.
This video hits different after Lindsey Ellis has been banished to the shadow realm for saying basically, “Raya and most of YA literature is mid” lmao
I love how he harasses the dude to no end, and then proceeds to get mad at himfor it.
"Uhh, so, uhh, maybe we need, like, internet panels of restorative justice?"
"OMG YAAAAS!!!"
Jesus Christ, Breadtube is cancer.
Boycotting is not buying something you don’t like. Cancelling is snitching to platforms to have said thing removed.
Posting that recording of the man having a breakdown really reminds me strongly of bullies at school looking for any way possible to humiliate the "weird" kids in their class. I feel so disgusted just watching it.
The idea that ANYONE deserves that kind of treatment just because they made a mistake at work is seriously f***ed up.
"We're not free to think and speak freely, but we can't talk about this problem because that would mean we are wrong"
What. The. Fuck.