The Easiest Home Assistant Install I've Ever Done
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- The Zimaboard is a single board computer capable of running your Home Automation server on, as well as a bunch of other applications with just a few clicks in CasaOS. Come along as we unbox and take a look at how the ZimaBoard works and how you can get up and running with your favourite applications in just a few minutes...literally!
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Since you love firewalls you should do a video on your firewall and general network setup! I've been hoping you'd do just that for a while. I'm a "former" network geek that really needs to up my home setup and would love to see how someone with a home automation has setup their network.
Brett, I agree, I would also love to see a firewall and general network video :)
Third! I'd love that as well!
Imo, if you have the funds to spare, buy some unifi gear. I went through this path myself and casually rolled into networking that way.
+1 on this too
Set up a pfsense box. Nothing against Lewis, but you should rely on a person that specializes in networking and security rather than a home automation person.
Lawrence is a great source
ruclips.net/video/fsdm5uc_LsU/видео.html
I'd love to see a video dedicated to only Home Assistant on this board. Adding Zigbee & Z-Wave dongles, configuration and setup of a few devices. Check whether there are issues with port/device collision (example: Zooz Z-Wave dongle with Sonoff Zigbee, both having the same SiLabs name)
Also how to install HACS and other Addons. Since this installation I sadly not supervised ;-(
I am having an issue adding the Sonoff Zigbee, I cant see how to get HA to see the device
I think I have interference issues with my SkyConnect and the extra SSD drive/cable. I am looking for a board that means I don’t have to boot from SSD. As mentioned above. I would want to install the supervised version of HA
@@bradfordjns I'm also planning to in stall Sonoff zigbee dongles ... Were you able to resolve the issue? Hope you can share ..thanks !
Is it an option to do a custom install Home Assistant Supervised?
Lewis, I liked the overview style video. I had heard of the Zimaboard, but hadn't given it any attention. So this video filled in the blanks through a content provider that I know and trust. What a cool device. Gunna get one!
Still having fun with mine. Actually considering moving HA setup from VVM on Synolgoy to one of those.
I vote do it on the livestream 😂
@@EverythingSmartHome what could possibly go wrong... :D
This looks super slick! I have unraid on my home server, and it does all of this, but it requires a lot more user input to install apps. This seems like a great way for anyone to just all the basics up and running. Really cool!
This is a great alternative for a pi for sure. I have a intel Nuc and have installed proxmox on it. Running a VM with home assistant in it so i can get the full OS supervised version of HA. Plus running a lot of containerized lxc and docker containers, (pi-hole, most of the arr's, openmediavault, vaultwarden, and many more). But this will be great for those that don't want to go down the VM, Container rabbit hole 😄
Sure, and you can install Proxmox on this too, it's just an x86 CPU 😅
@@EverythingSmartHome I actually saw another you tube content creator do just that. As a matter of fact he had 3 of them clustered together so he could have a high reliability proxmox cluster. Pretty cool.
If you don't care about the pcie connector, you can get significantly cheaper (~$100) small fanless machines like this if you look for "fanless Intel n4020", which do have a newer cpu that uses about the same power but with more performance
Could you share a link, I excitedly searched but everything I found was just sub $200 but would love to take a look at one like you described there bud
@@GarethEdwards1979 Look for those with N5105. They are getting cheaper as the new gen Alder Lake N (N97/N100/N200/N305) is getting rolled out.
@@qazwsx000xswzaq Those alderlake... N100 / N305 do look really impressive.
+1
There are a lot of fanless Celerons out there to choose from, which are cheaper than this. The J4125 is also a popular one.
@@Pabula Indeed they are. I am looking forward to reviews of N305 which should be launching en mass soon.
Great video. Love your content, this was definitely more chilled than some(most) of your other ones but a nice change
It's nice that you appreciate other people's packages so much after you've gotten a taste. Good work!
I know a good package when I see one
Thank you for another great video. I did enjoy this side. Food for thought: Maybe try doing 2 channels like Smart Home Solver / Reed's Smart Home did. One he pretty much sticks to reviews and the other is deeper dives. I do enjoy your full reviews but it is nice to see this side as well and would be a great way to learn about new products and release in a chill setting
I rarely comment on videos but I'm severely lacking in firewall knowledge and considering you said you loved firewalls and things, I would love to watch a series or something of you talking about firewalls!
Thanks for the casual unboxing and overview Lewis! Great video. 😁
I actually run home assistant in CasaOs since December. I kinda look at CasaOs as something similar as Portainer. It just look prettier. The nice thing of CasaOs is that you can use it as a springboard to several apps you have in your network
so does it make more sense to run things like adguard straight from CasaOS or still do it through home assistant? Have you spotted any advantages or disadvantages?
i`m trying to set it up but no luck. My Hass gui doesnt have the addons tab
It's interesting that you say that firewalls are your jam. Would you consider making a firewall series of videos? Choosing/setup/maintaining etc
Would love to see Zimaboard - pfSense/OPNsense video from you!
Do a video on firewalls. Show us your routing stack. Is your firewall also your DHCP server and router? or did you get fancy? whats your favorite firewalls?
This thing looks great. I'd like to get one and definitely would like to see a full setup tutorial for sure! I'm looking into something for my new house and want a home server and I'd love to see if this thing would be easier/better than a full custom build
Thanks very good job you covered all the things I was interested in. Especially the operating system. I also think it’s a compelling thing to buy as well.
Glad it was interesting, thanks for the comment and watching!
That looks great, looking for a replacement for my raspi ha right now. I'd really like to know how to work with this remotely (esp ha updates), it's not like a monitor is commonly found in a server rack 😋
I've been running a RPi 4 HA setup for a while now and due to a failed router, i've been looking to start from scratch. Enter this video. I love it and immediately ordered a Zima board, received it, installed Home Assistant from the Applications folder. Super easy like you said! Now on to adding other apps like MQTT from within Home assistand (like one would do on the RPi...only to find out that thissss usesss....Dockers. To which I'm 100% unfamiliar with, including the the concept itself. I've done some research on it however there is very little documentation for the CasaOS custom install (unless you are a superuser and know coding inside and out already). Would you be able to either do a tutorial on the concept of custom docker installs or point us somewhere that explains the process? I'm eager to learn dockers as the principal seems rock solid...just need to start at ground zero lol. My previous Home Assistant setup used Tasmota, MQTT, Node Red, ESP Home, HACS apps, etc....
Same! Please do some follow up tutorials on the CasaOS Home Assistant Implementation. No Supervisor, and very little info on how to install HACS on this. I'm sure it's all available, but being completely new to the HA world, I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment here. Cheers for all the vids!
attached. I'm really pleased that it met this specific need so perfectly. Not happy about the lack of sleep/hibernation though. The ZimaBoard concept is cool, and they have an almost-good idea. It needs a substantially better NIC chipset, more documentation, and needs to feel less like a Kickstarter project that died after they shipped the product. The bulk of tech support is through Discord only and it's very poor, plus no solutions are saved or browsable for future use given the fleeing nature of Discord. It took a lot of searching to find information that they should just be throwing on to a wiki somewhere. The NIC is fast enough to stream 1080p media to another device for decoding, but it can't keep up the video decoding itself (missing audio aside). Likewise it performs well when the desktop is in 1080p but lags considerably when in 4K. I can't really recommend the ZimaBoard unless your use case is very similar to mine and you don't mind the caveats I described. I do really like it for my application and it's much nicer construction quality than other cheap Mini PCs. It has a lot of potential as a NAS or other network device.
servers don't sleep
I saw Bearded Tinker review this board. It does have a lot more punch than a Raspberry Pi, and it really is a great board. It's not the cheapest SBC, but compared to the price of a Raspberry Pi 4 even now, it is a good option. Really nice and easy to use. I quite like the board, though I think it is overkill just for Home Assistant, but if you run a few other things or even use small virtual machines, you can't go wrong with this board
I think with HAOS and a few Add-ons, like ESPHome, it would be ideal.
thanks Lewis this is exactly the kind of thing i was talking about yesterday ive just placed an order for the nice green 832 as the main one is out of stock and i cant wait to tinker with it
Awesome, enjoy!
Loved the video like the more relaxed style, informative and I will definitely be buying this.
I bought this sbc and discovered afterwards that the version of HA you were installing were the HA Core, meaning i would have to manage all the addons myself on a terminal or by using docker compose. This is not a good solution for me. I need to have HA on this and share a network drive, like a NAS, so what is the best option for me? Is it possible to use CasaOS and install the other versions of HA with the supervisor?
CasaOS is pretty interesting project on it's own. I see you can install it on pretty much anything, it just goes on top of Debian 11. Must try it out on an old PC sometime soon
everything is in a container (including home assistant).
Bought one, tried HA with it and yep, nice quick installation. This is the first time I tried HA on anything and I thought I was going great guns... I followed guides for setting it up as I am rather the newbie in Linux and HA and then I became stuck. Find this in the add-ons menu of Home Assistant'... The what.? Where the hell is that? After a bit of research there are a number of different installs for HA and the one in CASAOS is not the supervisor installation. OK, how do I go about getting this fabled add-on installation then? To the Internet again.... Oh. Looks like a fair bit of learning is in my future for getting to grips with installing HA into docker containers etc. 😕
This is rapidly becoming a paperweight for me now as I just can't be arsed to go out there after a days work. I just want something to work without it becoming a chore. I guess I might utilise it for something, one day I might just make a push and learn what I need to to get HA working with the supervisor install, until then though, it will remain lurking on the desk unless it gets sold on.
Facing the same issue now. Wish that I have read your comment before getting the ZimaBoard.
I'm in the same boat. I didn't even know there were different versions of Home Assistant and this one is not the one we want. After researching we need Home Assistant OS. This version doesn't include add-ons where most "how to" videos with Home Assistant start. A learning lesson for sure and I'm pretty sure I got a pricey paperweight.
I'm going to look into seeing if it is possible to install Home Assistant OS (the actual full program on this) and if not then toss it.
I think the Home Assistant developers should rename the version that is on this to Home Assistant Lite and use a different icon.
Google search shows many people asking "where is my add-on button??" and from the Zimaboard website there is no indication that this is a stripped down version.
A great RUclips "how to" video would be how to get HACS working with this so it is usable.
Loved the video and the hardware preview. Really nice and chilled. Would like to see what this device will do under some load (normal home use)
Great video, Lewis ! Hope you can share more videos using Zimaboard for HA. Would you be able to advise which Zigby dongle would work best on this device?, Thank you!
What I would hope for HA is that you could add home automation gadgets as apps. It simply is for complex for the average user. Just getting your Google Calendar displayed on HA is a complex venture. But once it works you feel proud :D
This product seems on the right track.
Hi Lewis, thanks for the very informative video. I run HA on a Raspi 3B and am looking to upgrade to something a little quicker and more reliable. I'm inclined to go for a new Raspi 5, but would you recommend a Zimaboard or similar? I'm not a power user but I would like to play media; I have a library on my old NAS that I want to upload to storage that HA can access.
It would be great to see an update on what you would recommend to someone like me now that the Raspi 5 is on the scene 🙂
My HA is running on a NUC5 with 4gb of ram and 120ssd that I bought used on marketplace for 50$ 2 years ago . And It consumes about 9 watts
I’d like to see lots more videos on this to see how it works 👍🏻
Anything in particular?
@@EverythingSmartHome erm good question 🤣 possibly setting a zigbee stick up, like SkyConnect, and see if it works just like it had haos on. Add things like integrations and add ons and see what happens off the top of my head
would be great if they had an HA OS version instead. I prefer the simplicity of HA OS over docker install, but still need docker for my other containers and this seems easier than proxmox which has been a struggle for me so far.
It's intel based so you can run HAOS exactly the same as you can on a NUC or similar, but in all honesty, it would be huge overkill just for HAOS. If you only want to run HAOS and a few add-ons, then get an ODROID instead. You won't notice the difference. The Zimaboard is better suited to running a few different things
Love the video was great to leave on in the background and carry on tasks
Thanks for the feedback!
Great video as always!!
can I install the home assistant supervised on it or the HA OS ?
Not bad, but I'd rather spend a bit more and get an Odroid H3+ with much more power, since we go the x86 route anyhow.
For around $220 ($20 more then the 8Gig zima) I get an N6005 CPU, more USB, 2x2.5Gig ethernet, 16G RAM, and a 250G SSD. Yes you have to buy the SSD and RAM separately, and you loose a PCI slot. But since this is not for the average user, I assume finding and putting in the RAM and storage is not a hard task to do.
And then you are left with a much beefier HW for $20 more.
I was looking for a decent base for home assistant. I like how easy the install was for you. How much more difficult would you say it would be to get home assistant functional after that? Also would you recommend any other adapters/accessories to use with that for home assistant? Thank you!
Is this a new camera or change in lighting? Looks nice. 👍
Hi Lewis, you mentioned CasaOS will run on any system. Will you test on the PI?
I have purchased one of these boards installed Home Assistant as the video but I can't install HACS ? What am I missing ?
$100 bought me a core i5 iNtel nuc which has been running Home Assistant for a few years now, 24/7 not a problem. This board looks OK, it would depend on the amount of devices connected & automations running. Certainly better specs than a rPi
Can you install the os version too?
RaidOwl did a video called "10 Watt HA Proxmox Cluster ft. ZimaBoard" about a month ago (using 3 of them in a cluster).
Also quite a few youtubers picked the zima up lately in my opinion.
Nevertheless, as always a good video!
Nice.
casa os looks and sounds cool. Docker containers have long reminded me of Play Market. I wonder if there are high availability quality tools in this shell?
I did enjoy the video. Thanks for the product review. I might try to get one. Can you overclock it? Thx
If only it had a couple more SATA ports this would also be a great core for a homebrew NAS.
For home assistant you can use any crappy Celeron laptop. Home assistant os is not heavy to run at all. And these laptops are very power efficient compared to a desktop.
Hello, is there any difference between installing HA in CASAOS? Does it work the same as installing HA directly on a Raspberry?
It's a real shame this thing doesn't have an M.2 slot on the board itself. It would be great to get much expanded storage without significatly increasing the physical footprint with add-on cards
Hi Lewis, interesting to compare this to an iKOOLcore, which has a bit more CPU power and five times the network (4 x 2.5Gbps) in a smaller form factor for not much more. It isn't silent though but the M.2 slot is easily accessible and it takes standard USB 12-20V power. I bought the 16GB version, coupled with a 2TB Sabrent, INIU powerbank and WiFi-6 USB which doubled the price :-o Setting it up with Proxmox and hoping to have a portable cloud with Raspap, Nextcloud, Jellyfin and whatever else takes my fancy.
I'd be interested in how this compares to the Odriod "Blue".
In terms of raw compute it will be a much stronger CPU
If you just run HAOS and nothing else, you won't notice much difference in speed or reliability as even the HA Blue Odroid barely breaks a sweat running HAOS. The Zima is an Intel based solution it has a lot more raw power and is a lot snappier than the Odroid. It depends on what you want to do though. I would stick to the Blue if you only run HAOS and not a lot else.
@@EsotericArctos I'm running Frigate with a coral (USB) and the CPU never goes above 50%. I upgraded from Rpi4 to the Odroid just for the Frigate install.
I used OrangePi5. Certainly a lot better of an option than my RaspberryPi3 that was hitting the dust after the past couple years. I don't have a ton connected to mine, generally about 40 lights (yes, all my lighting lol), a shower (u by moen; I used the Google Assistant call command; This is new to it lol), some TV's, an Xbox and my Denon receivers.
The Rpi3 would sit at about 50c idle with only that. With the OrangePi 5, I'm sitting nice at 37 - 40c idle, 500GB nvme instead of an SD card (so much quicker lol), and I have yet to check the power usage on either, however I'd presume the orangepi is using a lot less power, as it's at 40c on idle lol.
Would know if this would make a good unit for pfsense firewall server?
does zimaboard have wifi and bluetooth built in? do I need it for home assistant to communicate with govee bluetooth temp sensors?
Sold Out ...
I would like to have this with a slot for an M.2 drive in the case as well so it could be used as a server when out and about.
Maybe you can make a video about Firewall and Homeassistent i never hat any Touchpoints but regards to the safety it would be an intersting topic
Nice video Lewis, but still prefer your thorough reviews. For example the open question on whether it will always have the latest version of the apps like home assistant. And what the different ways are to install home assistant on it (I assume that for most it would be better to install HassOS rather than the docker version you installed in the video).
Just giving my views because you asked for it 😊
This isn't a replacement for reviews in anyway, just a different extra type of video :)
You could install Home Assistant OS directly on here instead of CasaOS using the x86 generic image. But Home Assistant add-ons are docket containers so you could also run them from CasaOS in a roundabout way
The Odroid-H3+ is a similar board, but with two 2.5GBit Ethernet ports, the option to add 16 or 32GB of memory and a much faster CPU. Bit it's a bit more expensive.
The Zima board has the same problem as the RPi - cables everywhere. Also, I am not convinced that the eMMC is sufficient if you want to run more that plain HA.
A much simpler, cleaner and more economical solution would be to use a second hand Optiplex Micro which easily runs a few VMs on Proxmox.
It has one network cable and one power cable, how would you get rid of those?
More economical solution sure - simpler, I don't agree. I'm a big fan of the Optiplex solution though, made a video about it in the past
@@EverythingSmartHome The Zima board on its own is at best marginal for most home applications. Once you add essential peripherals including a PCIe card and an SSD, you really need to also add some enclosure for robustness and to contain the cable salad. Why bother with Zuma if you can buy a more elegant and economical solution such as an Optiplex?
10:11 OMG YES!!!!! I am a computer programming student and I *STILL DON'T* know why progress bars have done this.
Hey, y'all. I'm back to this video because I am contemplating getting an Odroid M1 8G/32G and adding a cheap 250G NVMe. The price is about the same as the Zimaboard, but I love the preinstalled HA and onboard connector for the NVMe. Are there any big pros to getting the Zimaboard as the main HA controller compared to the Odroid M1?
the Odroid M1 might be less powerful (I'm not sure tho, the 8GB M1 seems pretty powerful), but the power consumption is even lower on the M1
I have been meaning to get back to HA for almost a year now, so I really need to get some hardware and reconnect my tiny amount of cameras and switches 😁
I am just waiting for my lenovo NUC to go have a play with proxmox and move my Emby server over to a more energy efficient system, now I like the look of Casa, what to do 🤔
How does this work with usb paththrough for zigbee dongles/ coral
Great Video, bought it after the video, great HW but Home Assistant is in Docker and thus Not Supervised. It is useless... you can't put Bluesound/Zigbee.. work
I installed casaos on pi4 but the Bluetooth isn't showing, can u help me solve this.
Things to note about the nvme board, it is 1 nvme, and 1 sata keyed, and needs to use sata data cable to use the sata keyed,
I made the mistake of getting 2 nvme and only able to use 1
I just got a used PC for $50 and am going to combine my 2 raspberry pi servers (OMV and HA) onto one machine. Not counting parts I'll be repurposing from my existing builds I'm in ~$65 for this upgrade and I'm hoping I can sell the case my used PC came in for at least $15-20
I'd be concerned with who manages the OS and what kind of data it phones home. And if the sever has any kind of permaware that does the same.
Nice video, but can it host a 4k blueray plex movie?
Now that it runs it's own software is it still possible to run HASSIO Supervised?
Its got the bandwidth for a 4k file. But I doubt its gonna handle transcodes very well.
Hey guys, I have a question for those guys who have an ZimaBoard. I want to run an power efficient Home Server with Nextcloud, Vaultwarden (Bitwarden) and Nginx Proxy Manager. My question is if anybody knows if the ZimaBoard can handle these Services or not. I´m relative new to hosting and i cannot estimate if the ressorces of the ZimaBoard - CPU-power and RAM - are enough to provide a solid experience.
more the question is :how do you migrate all the Zigbee and Zwave stuff without repairing everything!? I'm using Z2MQTT and Zwave JS on a MacMini M2 Pro, I wanted to move to Docker for ages but I'm to lazy to repair all that devices (way to many!)
As I understand it, HA backup then restore on new system handles all of that now...
i bought (here in Romania online) a refurbished Intel NUC that already had home assistant installed and 250gb hard drive .It cost me about $150
What versions of the various Apps did it install? Were they the latest available directly?
They were the latest yes, certainly for Home Assistant it was!
@@EverythingSmartHome I bought 10 of your Everything One Presence sensors... You did a great job! Working great!
Thanks so much, glad you are enjoying them! 🙏🏻
I would like to learn Proxmox,portainer. This hardware would allow me to learn?
Absolutely, it's a great platform to learn IMO!
Just buy a 2nd hand USFF PC for HA. I got one for £70 + a small HDD I already had on hand. 8GB RAM, 120GB HDD and a low power 5th gen i5. Plus you are helping to reduce e-waste as well.
Currently seems to be making rounds on a bunch of channels. Burning that marketing budget. Rather pricey but the TDP is impressive.
RPi people promise they'll be plenty available by 3rd qtr. Let's hope
well, I like how single board computers evolve these days! But still, I prefer an old used laptop with SSD in it and core i3/i5. Besides it has its build in UPS, it has the ability to upgrade memory, CPU and storage. so my choice is used 5+ years old laptop. Oh and it has its own screen!
I'm surprised at how many reviews for this there are, its been around a long time now.
Where can I find the music at 10:00 and so on?
Great video. Only thing why i cant use it is you cant run addons on it. Limitation of HA.
Add-ons are just docker containers, aka what this thing is built around running 😜
@@EverythingSmartHome that sounds right but last time I installed casa OS or whatever it’s called I didn’t have the addon option in the settings
Yeah you won't, that's not what I meant. I meant that add-ons are docker containers so you can just run any of the add-ons in CasaOS rather than on HA - the result is the same
hey, why don't you make some videos/tutorial about Opnsense? ;-)
Thats a late night Lewis, haha, children hey!
Hahaha well spotted! That's one of my earlier recordings I've done too! 😂
Actually quite expensive, raspberry was popular because it was 30$.
This is in the range of 200$ so you'd be better off with a fanless mini pc.
But the OS seems pretty nice
That's literally what this is, a fanless mini pc 🤣
@Everything Smart Home yeah, but with specific form factor and everything soldered. It's an older proc already and it cannot be changed.
With a regular mini pc you can change the processor and add ram when needed.
With this you're stuck.
these are really cool. They just seem really expensive. Would like to see $100 - $150
Looks like Synology DSM
that smile, on 5:54...
not a good option, it's more expensive than the pie, it doesn't have Bluetooth or wifi built in , the pci card in an awkward position, and if you want to nstall HA core you have to go through a different process basically same process to install it on pie , I'm currently using it but I'm not really happy, i was a big fan of this guy , but he's driven by the market and he didn't give his subscribers an honest review so I'm gonna leave his fake channel,, btw I'm currently using the zimaboard and I'm not happy with it.
it's unfortunate but most of RUclips videos are biased and they all trying to make you buy the product but you have to learn the hard way
Do you have a link showing how to install HA core in the ZimaBoard? Thanks 🙂
@@raymondli4755 yes sir, this is the link that i used to install home assistant on my zimaboard
ruclips.net/video/Z-AOLfOiIEM/видео.html
at the last step the Linux system ui might freeze but that's fine, HA might be already installed and ready to go.
please let me know if you have any questions about zimaboard home assistant, you will need zigbee dongle P , make sure to get the P version not the E, also you will need Bluetooth dongle to ads any Bluetooth devices
Honestly, ultra small form factor pcs from dell/hp/Lenovo are so abundant on ebay, none of these boards make sense, for 150€ I'm running an i5, 16gb of ram and a 1tb ssd in a box that's basically the same size and uses 3-5W when idle. You can put hass on it or Linux and build your own containers.
Lol.
So I go to their website and the 832 is sold out.
I was just going to comment on that specific thing
Amazon Uk = £424:00
at this price you might as well get a NUC and throw linux on it.
Cool Device! But i don't think thats the easiest home assistant install because "Home Assistant Yellow" exists but that has a raspberry pi soo...
I could be wrong and I'm sure good people will correct me but the RasPi is still leagues better than anything else simply for the fact that so much support and so many resoures exist to help even the biggest novice (like myself) out. So glad I bought a Pi when I still could
Right, but part of the reason the Pi needs that support network, is because of its CPU architecture. This is an x86 CPU, so stuff not running because the architecture isn't supported won't happen, and any Linuxy issues that you need help with, can be found online - as if it was any other actual computer, whether that's a server or an Intel NUC - because it's a standard CPU.
Next video : How to install CasaOS on raspberry pi 4B
Does this have homebridge?
It is a nice compact device but I really wish it was a newer gen processor. Sadly this is just a bit too limited for my needs.
This said, it is a good direction.
Progress Bars: the first 98% takes 2% of the time, then the last 2% take 98% of the time.
Rock SE or ROCK Pi 4 or 5
Just give me actual progress :) hehehehe. Nice video thx
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