There is a true story about WW1, on the Russian, German front. Because of the devastation of the animals. The wolves started eating the dead, then the injured. Finally the men who went out alone. They had to make a temporary truce. And hunt the wolves. It is an amazing story. Someone should make a movie out of it. Thanks for your videos brother.
Cite your sources, please. I've listened to entire college course lectures (The Great Courses) & watched several multi-episode documentaries on WW1 here on YT, and I've never heard this story. There was such hatred between the Nazis & Soviets that I find this hard to believe, & Stalin didn't give a shit about the casualty count among the Red Army because it was so huge. Basically the troops were put in a meat grinder to slow the eastward progression of the Germans. So I can't imagine the Soviets stopping to help the Germans kill wolves who were attacking their soldiers.
Different attributes will be highlighted by different context. If that makes sense. So I think there are situations where positive aspects of a wolf (fearlessness, cooperation) could be shown, and other situations (like The Grey) where their darker attributes (clever viciousness) are shown.
I always found it interesting how the characters refer to the wolves. They often say call the wolves "those things" which is strange given they're professional hunters and see the wolves as otherworldly creatures and it really gives the wolves a more supernatural feel.
only Ottway is the hunter! Rest are usual oilfield workers (welders,machine operators etc)! Even Diaz mentions it in his las speech: "i sit on the drill all day,drink all night"...
I loved your longer analysis video. But here I have to disagree about Diaz. I don't think he "gave up" and lost his soul. He chose his place and time to go. Death with dignity. He's got a beautiful view and as he says, "When it can ever be better?" It's a stirring moment and nothing defeatist about it. I thought he was quite brave actually. He even tells himself: "I'm not afraid." Yes, Otway chose the more stereotypically "heroic" method to go out. But I don't think it's a matter of one being better. It's about each man being true to himself. If, for instance, a cancer sufferer doesn't want to keep going and decides to self-terminate (and on his terms) than that can also be valid. You'll recall that Diaz was completely spent and badly injured by this point. Also, the way the two Johns shook hands in farewell seemed to underscore their mutual respect. And Otway never protests Diaz's decision, not like the other character. It's like two "heroes" acknowledging each other.
I find it interesting that wolves have such a terrifying lore surrounding them and yet they are the ancestors of our best friends. It's an interesting dichotomy.
It is tied to relationship people had with wolves. If a culture was settled and relied on farming & raising livestock, the wolf was often seen as an enemy because they would prey on their sheep or goats or cattle. In contrast cultures that relied more on hunting tended to view the wolf positively and that was reflected in their myths, because the wolf was not seen as a competitor and because it embodied traits they might value in their own hunters. In many Native American cultures for example wolves are given positive portrayals in their tales. Sometimes positive portrayals in myths could also hang around a bit long after a culture had transitioned mostly to agriculture, as a sort of memory of a distant hunter-gatherer past. Examples of this are Romulus, the mythical or semi-mythical founder of ancient Rome being nursed by a she-wolf as an infant, or Geri and Freki, the two wolf companions of Odin.
So do our spouses & family members. Humans are way more dangerous to humans than dogs or any other animal, except for MAYBE mosquitoes, but that's a big maybe when you consider the number of homicides, genocides, & wars humans continue to perpetrate around the world.@@tryme1828
I believe the movie is about surviving after a loss. Keep living until it's your time. Don't be afraid. Thanks, Liam, for showing us what you learned after your beloved Natasha's loss.
@@LifeIsAStory Winston Churchill had depression and called it the black dog. I thought it was funny because Neesons character had to face a giant black dog at the end
Wolves are the only animals capable of revenge?! Personally, I think almost ANY wild animal can have an instinct for revenge. The ones you should fear the most other than wolves, are tigers and orcas.
True. Tigers are one of the most vengeful animals. In india there was a story where a female tiger was killed by few villagers and then it's mate,the male tiger killed a lot of people in the village before being transported to another place or a zoo I think so.
Bears, elephants, and gorillas are some of the most vengeful creatures on the planet, besides of course humans, I also hear about orcas following boats
Cite your articles from reputable science & nature sources saying bears, elephants, & gorillas are vengeful. THAT'S BULLSHIT you pulled out of your ass. Quit maligning some of the most intelligent & endangered animals on the planet! For one thing, VENGEANCE is a human trait & placing human motivations & emotions onto animals is anthropomorphic. No naturalist, zoologist, or other animal specialist will tolerate anthropomorphism. It's just amateurs thinking they can interpret animal behavior & facial expressions or people making shit up & then other people repeating what they've they said. @@bigbean7214
There is a very sad video of a donkey discovering her dead baby a nearby wolf killed. She attacks the beast and well after it's dead continues to savagely beat and ravage the wolf's body in a fit of rage. I think it's safe to say donkeys are very capable of vengeance.
Fun fact about wolves they can as a pack take down a fully grown bison. So to the ignorant humans saying wolves killing a human being and ripping him apart is unrealistic have never studied wolves.
They're more than capable of taking down people, yes...and have on occasion. Without the aid of weapons man is far less formidable prey than something like a bison or elk, animals wolves routinely hunt. That said however people aren't entirely wrong in pointing out that wolves don't really behave as they do in the film. Wolves might be capable of killing people, but they're very rarely interested in attempting it. Documented cases of wolves attacking people exist, but are exceedingly rare. If you encounter wolves in the wild they're far more likely to avoid you than hunt you. Of course this is just a movie and not a nature documentary, and some of the complaints definitely missed the point of the film.
He wouldn't have had the bottles had they drank them all. The rules he followed allowed him the weapons to fight at the end. Showing cosmic irony. But more importantly it's narratively consistent.
How do you not have more subscribers. This video is a damn near perfect analysis of the wolves in this. I didn't think of it like this, but it is an amazing. My interpretation was that the Alpha was the Grim reaper, hunting them down because survival in the frozen wilderness? Very few ever survive that. But I like your take a lot more.
There was one video that said the elements killed many more people than the wolves. First the plane crash killed the most people; then one survivor bled out. Diaz surrendered, so he committed suicide because he was going to die one way or another. One drowned. One froze to death. How many people did the wolves actually KILL? Yet, no one thinks of water, wind, snow, ice, cold, or terrain, etc. as monsters. The wolves were simply a way to create monsters with an intent to kill, unlike the indifferent environmental threats. That's why they are larger, more threatening, & almost supernatural in their ability to terrorize the men, not just kill them outright. Because, face it, there were enough pairs of eyes in that night scene to kill all those men at once. And look at how close that one guy got, yet the alpha didn't attack. These are not ordinary wolves. They are messing with the men's mental state, not just hunting them.
@@DonnaBrooks absolutely awesome take on it. I didn't think of it that way. But yeah, the environment kills most of the survivors. The wolves were just putting a face to the monster that is survival in such a place.
Thank you for making this. This is my favorite movie for multiple personal reasons. However I’ve never been able to put into words or make people understand why I love it so much. Now I have a video to send them. Thanks bro. Awesome work
I remember reading where either the writers or someone involved with the film said that the wolves look almost demonic and act that way because you’re seeing them thru the eyes of the survivors who are worn down, tired, and dying
I absolutely love your praise and analysis for The Grey. I loved the movie. I went to see it in theaters and it blew me away. Loving your content about it though. Thank you
That's because the wolves are the angels coming to redeem them before taking them to heaven. Each on their own past life personal failures. "When you look into the abyss, the abyss stares right back into you".
Those wolves are monsters, not angels or animals. It's obvious that they represent something and aren't just wolves, but clearly it was nothing angelic!
I recently watched a lot of YT vids on the movie, Mother, which suffered the same fate as The Grey in being marketed as a horror story. It was a horror story, but not in the slasher or jumpscare subgenre that people were expecting. Because people didn't understand it to be allegory, they hated it. It was one of the few films that have gotten an F from CinemaScore. But there are some people who love it because technically it's an amazing film. The set, the camera work, the sound design, seeing the film almost entirely from Jennifer Lawson's character's perspective, etc., make it another unique film, like The Grey. There's a making of feature here on YT that I started watching & need to go back & finish where you can get a sense of the elaborate set design & camera work for this movie. There are 2 EXTREMELY graphic & disturbing scenes in the movie. Between all the reaction vids, reviews, & video essays, I've actually seen most of the film, but not those 2 scenes because they can't be shown on YT. However, I've HEARD the scenes & heard people's reactions to the scenes so I know they are shocking in their brutality. It's a movie that you either love or you hate. I think it sounds fascinating if you don't mind being confused for most of the film until you finally figure out what's going on (if you ever do!). For those that figure it out early on, it's interesting to see how the rest plays out.
I am not sure about the wolves tracking humans so far from their den but they will defend their den itself with their lives. I watched a Joe Rogan Experience podcast where they were discussing hunting stuff. In one incident, the hunter recalls when him and his friends stumbled into a den. It was a pure fight to the death with this pack. Wolves where attacking from everywhere and shots were being fired in defense. It was nuts to hear.
I took time to give you & anyone reading this a quick, useful tip for writing like a native English speaker. YOU thought it was important to take time out of YOUR day, not to offer anything constructive, but just to insult me. So who is more likely to attract negative things? Might it be the person who doesn't realize the irony of taking time to complain about another person taking time to offer helpful information for anyone who can benefit from it? @@siskens470
So you are saying that he & his friends wiped out an entire pack of wolves. You said they fight to the death & the men were shooting at them, which means they all died. Any cubs in the den would perish because there would be no adults to care for them. Did it not occur to you that maybe this guy was exaggerating? I'm sure you know the "one that got away" & the "big fish" stories of fishermen are often intentional or unintentional exaggerations.
@@DonnaBrooks your comprehension skills need work lol. No it doesn't. What happened was they were in a huge fight to the death and the wolves eventually took off after several of the wolves died I believe or the hunters fought their way out of there. Why does it have to be all of them? haha. Anything can be an exaggeration. However, I have heard wolf stories like this from others people. Glen Villeneuve from that reality show in the arctic has one that is similar. In the end, decide for yourself, who cares lol. You are low vibration.
Fun Fact: In real life, the "Alpha Wolf" only exists in captivity. There is no such thing as an "Alpha Wolf" in the wild. If you are wondering who leads the pack, it is the parents. You know how the typical human family comprises two parents and the kids? That is literally what a wolf pack is. The leading wolves are the mother and father, and the rest are their sons and daughters. The "Alpha" concept was based entirely on wolves in captivity. When you throw a bunch of random, unrelated wolves in the same cage together, they will start asserting dominance. This is because the wolf pack focuses on bringing up the youngest and weakest members. The captive "Alpha" thing would actually be the equivalent of humans in prison. In fact, one of the researchers who popularized the term and belief realized that he screwed up in his research by only studying wolves in captivity. When he realized that he messed up so bad, he begged his publisher to stop selling his book on wolf ecology. After this little fact was made public, zoos and sanctuaries started housing wolves in more monogamous ways. So, next time you see a wolf in a zoo and see that there are only two together, just know that they are either siblings or a mated pair and that the zoo is providing the correct social needs for them.
I remember watching this movie just to kill some time that day ….. 2 hours later I’m still on my couch stuck cause the Sun had gone down and I was frozen in fear cause I thought the Alpha was outside my house, I was lost in the story so deep cause it was so good … And then my inner voice yelled HOLY SHIT that was a good movie !!! Such a slept on movie, I’d highly recommend it to anyone, low key masterpiece
@@LochTaupo The only other difference is that Gamork chose to be the Nothing's bitch by helping it destroy Fantasia. The alpha wolf in this film stood alone and took orders from no one.
@@LochTaupo Despite that, the Nothing forced him to starve by gradually destroying Fantasia. Therefore, Gamork had nothing to hunt or eat. Atreyu put him out of his misery by killing him.
@3:52 A MISTAKE..! I noticed while watching the original/: The bartender picks up a beer glass that’s already full and begins to “fill” it. It’s a prop. But a noticeable mistake nonetheless
They are in hell the dogs represent demons if not the devil in Dante’s Inferno the devil is represented by a dog eating the damned in the opening monologue Ottway even says he feels he is the walking damned. Just an interpretation.
Oh, interesting! Could you please use punctuation so your comments can more easily be understood? Just a period after "damned" would have helped. Anyway, I thought the devil in Dante's Inferno was in the lowest level of hell entrapped in the ice?
The Grey was a fantastic Movie I just wish the ending was a little better would have liked to see the battle with the Wolf that would have been awesome 😃
You wanted to see him get ripped apart? What would be the point in that? This isn't the Roman Coliseum. Ending the film where it did made the film special, not just another survival story [ETA: where no one survives!]. A fight showing them both dying would have just been depressing, not inspiring. If you just want to see fake fighting, watch the WWE!!
Because it's irrelevant. What does it really tell you? That Neeson's character came out on top? Why does that even matter? You don't think he's going to just continue on walking until he reaches civilization after something like that?
@@DonnaBrooksYep. He was severely wounded many miles from help in a brutal climate. He is dead. It adds nothing. In my opinion it was a pointless addition to the film.
Alpha is God Father's messenger to prevent Neeson from committing suicide. She tells him "don't die that way. You will be damned. Come here, you'll die the right way. Great movie.
That's crap. God sends a wolf to kill him. That's one shitty deity you got there. If God was a loving God, he would have rescued Neeson & spared his life. This idea that you go to hell if you commit suicide is Roman Catholic doctrine & it's bullshit. You might believe it, but that doesn't make it true.
PS. Excellent analysis, by the way! Thank You for this work (...BRILLIANT!...) - ...but that "NO MAS!" - tattoo on Diaz 's neck was "bugging" me for quite a bit. Why anyone would take a phrase famous for being an admission of defeat, and - seemingly - consider it as some sort "I'm a badass!" motto?? ...hence I just had to add this post! Diaz betrays himself just like Roberto Duràn (...kinda!..) "betrayed" himself in his rematch against Leonard. However (obviously!) that didn't end Duràn's career - rather put even additional weight on him and (in a way) a bad "stigma", that followed him throughout the rest of his career. IT HAS TO BE SAID, THOUGH - that Roberto Duràn (unlike Diaz!) was NOT KILLED BY WOLVES IN ALASKA! 😂 ...HE ENDURED - PERSEVERED - and "washed away" that "weight" many years later when he fought against a MONSTER OF A MAN as well a FRIGHTENING Boxer, by the name of IRAN BARKLEY! ...and WON IN A SPECTACULAR FASHION! If you're interested to know the full story behind that "NO MAS!" tattoo & its true meaning, just digit the following: "Leonard vs Duràn I" (better known as "the Brawl in Montreal") - then "Leonard vs. Duràn II" (the famous "No màs!" or "Nevermore!"-fight) and - on an ending note "Duràn vs. Barkley". The latter of those three fights ( probably! ) gave finally a sort of "absolution" in the eyes of his fans at least, from admitting defeat against Leonard. However I highly doubt that Roberto Duràn ever forgave HIMSELF (...but that's another story for another life!). Said my "piece"! 🙂 ...sorry if it was too long, but this movie (The Grey") seems TO NEVER ABANDON you, once you've watched it! 😄 Regards.
I definitely think you're overplaying the alpha wolf I don't think he's one of the best monsters of all time yes it played well within the confines of the movie but compared to other monsters it's low to mid-tier average at best
WTF??!! That ending makes this movie stand out among all the typical survival stories! If he were to be rescued by a search party or stumble onto civilization, how could that be better than what happened? The willingness to fight was the climax of the story. Anything after that would have just detracted from the whole point of the story!
I disqualified the entire commentary because you used the word "ekspecially" do you know how difficult it is to express this when autocorrect refuses to accept that I am trying to convey how much I hate that word?
There is a true story about WW1, on the Russian, German front. Because of the devastation of the animals. The wolves started eating the dead, then the injured. Finally the men who went out alone. They had to make a temporary truce. And hunt the wolves. It is an amazing story. Someone should make a movie out of it. Thanks for your videos brother.
Wow!
Heard Shane Gillis talk about this truce on Rogan recently.
Who is Shane Gillis? A naturalist? A wildlife biologist? A historian? @@engadgetnerd
Cite your sources, please. I've listened to entire college course lectures (The Great Courses) & watched several multi-episode documentaries on WW1 here on YT, and I've never heard this story. There was such hatred between the Nazis & Soviets that I find this hard to believe, & Stalin didn't give a shit about the casualty count among the Red Army because it was so huge. Basically the troops were put in a meat grinder to slow the eastward progression of the Germans. So I can't imagine the Soviets stopping to help the Germans kill wolves who were attacking their soldiers.
@@DonnaBrooks there was no nazis in WW1, I believe you are talking about WW2 ?
Ever since I was a kid I always looked at the wolf as a symbol of Leadership
Fearlessness
And Commitment
Different attributes will be highlighted by different context. If that makes sense. So I think there are situations where positive aspects of a wolf (fearlessness, cooperation) could be shown, and other situations (like The Grey) where their darker attributes (clever viciousness) are shown.
Until it's eating you
I always found it interesting how the characters refer to the wolves. They often say call the wolves "those things" which is strange given they're professional hunters and see the wolves as otherworldly creatures and it really gives the wolves a more supernatural feel.
That’s a great point. Thanks for mentioning this.
I thought only Liam Neeson's character was a hunter. The rest worked on the oil fields or whatever it was.
only Ottway is the hunter! Rest are usual oilfield workers (welders,machine operators etc)!
Even Diaz mentions it in his las speech: "i sit on the drill all day,drink all night"...
I loved your longer analysis video. But here I have to disagree about Diaz. I don't think he "gave up" and lost his soul. He chose his place and time to go. Death with dignity. He's got a beautiful view and as he says, "When it can ever be better?" It's a stirring moment and nothing defeatist about it. I thought he was quite brave actually. He even tells himself: "I'm not afraid." Yes, Otway chose the more stereotypically "heroic" method to go out. But I don't think it's a matter of one being better. It's about each man being true to himself. If, for instance, a cancer sufferer doesn't want to keep going and decides to self-terminate (and on his terms) than that can also be valid. You'll recall that Diaz was completely spent and badly injured by this point. Also, the way the two Johns shook hands in farewell seemed to underscore their mutual respect. And Otway never protests Diaz's decision, not like the other character. It's like two "heroes" acknowledging each other.
I find it interesting that wolves have such a terrifying lore surrounding them and yet they are the ancestors of our best friends. It's an interesting dichotomy.
It is tied to relationship people had with wolves.
If a culture was settled and relied on farming & raising livestock, the wolf was often seen as an enemy because they would prey on their sheep or goats or cattle. In contrast cultures that relied more on hunting tended to view the wolf positively and that was reflected in their myths, because the wolf was not seen as a competitor and because it embodied traits they might value in their own hunters.
In many Native American cultures for example wolves are given positive portrayals in their tales. Sometimes positive portrayals in myths could also hang around a bit long after a culture had transitioned mostly to agriculture, as a sort of memory of a distant hunter-gatherer past. Examples of this are Romulus, the mythical or semi-mythical founder of ancient Rome being nursed by a she-wolf as an infant, or Geri and Freki, the two wolf companions of Odin.
Our best friends still have the capability of killing you 💀
So do our spouses & family members. Humans are way more dangerous to humans than dogs or any other animal, except for MAYBE mosquitoes, but that's a big maybe when you consider the number of homicides, genocides, & wars humans continue to perpetrate around the world.@@tryme1828
The wolf is life, relentless and indifferent to our suffering.
Exactly, there were no wolves. They’re a metaphor for death constantly creeping in.
I believe the movie is about surviving after a loss. Keep living until it's your time. Don't be afraid. Thanks, Liam, for showing us what you learned after your beloved Natasha's loss.
The Alpha I think represents depression and the Death itself
That too, for sure.
@@LifeIsAStory Winston Churchill had depression and called it the black dog. I thought it was funny because Neesons character had to face a giant black dog at the end
@@johnolmos8670no, he faced himself. The wolves are a metaphor for death.
Wolves are the only animals capable of revenge?! Personally, I think almost ANY wild animal can have an instinct for revenge. The ones you should fear the most other than wolves, are tigers and orcas.
True. Tigers are one of the most vengeful animals. In india there was a story where a female tiger was killed by few villagers and then it's mate,the male tiger killed a lot of people in the village before being transported to another place or a zoo I think so.
Crows have generally hate, if you make a crow or raven upset, they will teach their children to hate you too.
Bears, elephants, and gorillas are some of the most vengeful creatures on the planet, besides of course humans, I also hear about orcas following boats
Cite your articles from reputable science & nature sources saying bears, elephants, & gorillas are vengeful. THAT'S BULLSHIT you pulled out of your ass. Quit maligning some of the most intelligent & endangered animals on the planet! For one thing, VENGEANCE is a human trait & placing human motivations & emotions onto animals is anthropomorphic. No naturalist, zoologist, or other animal specialist will tolerate anthropomorphism. It's just amateurs thinking they can interpret animal behavior & facial expressions or people making shit up & then other people repeating what they've they said. @@bigbean7214
There is a very sad video of a donkey discovering her dead baby a nearby wolf killed. She attacks the beast and well after it's dead continues to savagely beat and ravage the wolf's body in a fit of rage. I think it's safe to say donkeys are very capable of vengeance.
The Grey was written as a love letter to Liam’s late wife, Natasha Richardson. It’s a beautiful film.
Interesting. Thank You.
Wrong. It’s based on a short story titled Ghost Walker.
That short story /novella was used as the basis for the film / book that came later
No it wasn't
Interesting, but wrong. See the other comments. @@2serveand2protect
Liam did not WRITE "The Grey" & why would the actual script writer be writing a love letter to Liam's dead wife?
Fun fact about wolves they can as a pack take down a fully grown bison. So to the ignorant humans saying wolves killing a human being and ripping him apart is unrealistic have never studied wolves.
Yha gray wolves are good at driving off or even killing(a lot less common) grizzly bears.
@@nickgennady very true it baffles my mind when I see people saying ignorant comments on wolves.
They're more than capable of taking down people, yes...and have on occasion. Without the aid of weapons man is far less formidable prey than something like a bison or elk, animals wolves routinely hunt.
That said however people aren't entirely wrong in pointing out that wolves don't really behave as they do in the film. Wolves might be capable of killing people, but they're very rarely interested in attempting it. Documented cases of wolves attacking people exist, but are exceedingly rare. If you encounter wolves in the wild they're far more likely to avoid you than hunt you.
Of course this is just a movie and not a nature documentary, and some of the complaints definitely missed the point of the film.
The complaints aren't that Wolves *couldn't* do this, it's that they *wouldn't*
He wouldn't have had the bottles had they drank them all. The rules he followed allowed him the weapons to fight at the end. Showing cosmic irony. But more importantly it's narratively consistent.
How do you not have more subscribers. This video is a damn near perfect analysis of the wolves in this. I didn't think of it like this, but it is an amazing. My interpretation was that the Alpha was the Grim reaper, hunting them down because survival in the frozen wilderness? Very few ever survive that. But I like your take a lot more.
Thank you, very much appreciated.
There was one video that said the elements killed many more people than the wolves. First the plane crash killed the most people; then one survivor bled out. Diaz surrendered, so he committed suicide because he was going to die one way or another. One drowned. One froze to death. How many people did the wolves actually KILL? Yet, no one thinks of water, wind, snow, ice, cold, or terrain, etc. as monsters. The wolves were simply a way to create monsters with an intent to kill, unlike the indifferent environmental threats. That's why they are larger, more threatening, & almost supernatural in their ability to terrorize the men, not just kill them outright. Because, face it, there were enough pairs of eyes in that night scene to kill all those men at once. And look at how close that one guy got, yet the alpha didn't attack. These are not ordinary wolves. They are messing with the men's mental state, not just hunting them.
@@DonnaBrooks absolutely awesome take on it. I didn't think of it that way. But yeah, the environment kills most of the survivors. The wolves were just putting a face to the monster that is survival in such a place.
Thank you for making this. This is my favorite movie for multiple personal reasons. However I’ve never been able to put into words or make people understand why I love it so much. Now I have a video to send them. Thanks bro. Awesome work
I remember reading where either the writers or someone involved with the film said that the wolves look almost demonic and act that way because you’re seeing them thru the eyes of the survivors who are worn down, tired, and dying
I absolutely love your praise and analysis for The Grey. I loved the movie. I went to see it in theaters and it blew me away. Loving your content about it though. Thank you
His voice is like fearless
That's because the wolves are the angels coming to redeem them before taking them to heaven. Each on their own past life personal failures. "When you look into the abyss, the abyss stares right back into you".
Those wolves are monsters, not angels or animals. It's obvious that they represent something and aren't just wolves, but clearly it was nothing angelic!
@DonnaBrooks angels are not like they're painted. Wolves are a pleasant interpretation compared to what the descriptions say.
I promise myself everytime to not cry when that piano key strikes......
**You know the part**
.....F**k that!!!
I promise myself
I WILL CRY !
I recently watched a lot of YT vids on the movie, Mother, which suffered the same fate as The Grey in being marketed as a horror story. It was a horror story, but not in the slasher or jumpscare subgenre that people were expecting. Because people didn't understand it to be allegory, they hated it. It was one of the few films that have gotten an F from CinemaScore. But there are some people who love it because technically it's an amazing film. The set, the camera work, the sound design, seeing the film almost entirely from Jennifer Lawson's character's perspective, etc., make it another unique film, like The Grey. There's a making of feature here on YT that I started watching & need to go back & finish where you can get a sense of the elaborate set design & camera work for this movie. There are 2 EXTREMELY graphic & disturbing scenes in the movie. Between all the reaction vids, reviews, & video essays, I've actually seen most of the film, but not those 2 scenes because they can't be shown on YT. However, I've HEARD the scenes & heard people's reactions to the scenes so I know they are shocking in their brutality. It's a movie that you either love or you hate. I think it sounds fascinating if you don't mind being confused for most of the film until you finally figure out what's going on (if you ever do!). For those that figure it out early on, it's interesting to see how the rest plays out.
Alpha wolf was an absolute unit 🖤
The wolf represents the depression. Another phrase for depression is Black Dog
I am not sure about the wolves tracking humans so far from their den but they will defend their den itself with their lives. I watched a Joe Rogan Experience podcast where they were discussing hunting stuff. In one incident, the hunter recalls when him and his friends stumbled into a den. It was a pure fight to the death with this pack. Wolves where attacking from everywhere and shots were being fired in defense. It was nuts to hear.
HE and his friends stumbled into a den. Take out whatever is after "and". This is not hard to remember. You wouldn't say, "Him stumbled into a den."
@@DonnaBrooks k thanks lol. You took time out of your day to write that? You are low vibration. Enjoy all the things you attract...
I took time to give you & anyone reading this a quick, useful tip for writing like a native English speaker. YOU thought it was important to take time out of YOUR day, not to offer anything constructive, but just to insult me. So who is more likely to attract negative things? Might it be the person who doesn't realize the irony of taking time to complain about another person taking time to offer helpful information for anyone who can benefit from it? @@siskens470
So you are saying that he & his friends wiped out an entire pack of wolves. You said they fight to the death & the men were shooting at them, which means they all died. Any cubs in the den would perish because there would be no adults to care for them. Did it not occur to you that maybe this guy was exaggerating? I'm sure you know the "one that got away" & the "big fish" stories of fishermen are often intentional or unintentional exaggerations.
@@DonnaBrooks your comprehension skills need work lol. No it doesn't. What happened was they were in a huge fight to the death and the wolves eventually took off after several of the wolves died I believe or the hunters fought their way out of there. Why does it have to be all of them? haha. Anything can be an exaggeration. However, I have heard wolf stories like this from others people. Glen Villeneuve from that reality show in the arctic has one that is similar. In the end, decide for yourself, who cares lol. You are low vibration.
Great perspective of film
Fun Fact: In real life, the "Alpha Wolf" only exists in captivity. There is no such thing as an "Alpha Wolf" in the wild. If you are wondering who leads the pack, it is the parents.
You know how the typical human family comprises two parents and the kids? That is literally what a wolf pack is. The leading wolves are the mother and father, and the rest are their sons and daughters. The "Alpha" concept was based entirely on wolves in captivity. When you throw a bunch of random, unrelated wolves in the same cage together, they will start asserting dominance. This is because the wolf pack focuses on bringing up the youngest and weakest members. The captive "Alpha" thing would actually be the equivalent of humans in prison.
In fact, one of the researchers who popularized the term and belief realized that he screwed up in his research by only studying wolves in captivity. When he realized that he messed up so bad, he begged his publisher to stop selling his book on wolf ecology. After this little fact was made public, zoos and sanctuaries started housing wolves in more monogamous ways. So, next time you see a wolf in a zoo and see that there are only two together, just know that they are either siblings or a mated pair and that the zoo is providing the correct social needs for them.
Thank you! People really need to stop believing in the whole Alpha, Beta, Omega social hierarchy BS
Civilization is captivity.
Good video!
I remember watching this movie just to kill some time that day ….. 2 hours later I’m still on my couch stuck cause the Sun had gone down and I was frozen in fear cause I thought the Alpha was outside my house, I was lost in the story so deep cause it was so good … And then my inner voice yelled HOLY SHIT that was a good movie !!! Such a slept on movie, I’d highly recommend it to anyone, low key masterpiece
great video...huge fan of this movie.
Thanks! It's one of my favorites.
The Alpha looks like the Wolf (Gamork) from the Never Ending Story.
Gamork was bigger and looked more vicious.
@@ryanmccarthy8625 He did indeed. But the Alpha shared a resemblance in the face and mannerisms.
@@LochTaupo The only other difference is that Gamork chose to be the Nothing's bitch by helping it destroy Fantasia.
The alpha wolf in this film stood alone and took orders from no one.
@@ryanmccarthy8625 😂 That’s true, I’ve never heard Gamork be referred to as “The Nothings Bitch” before!
@@LochTaupo Despite that, the Nothing forced him to starve by gradually destroying Fantasia.
Therefore, Gamork had nothing to hunt or eat.
Atreyu put him out of his misery by killing him.
@3:52 A MISTAKE..! I noticed while watching the original/: The bartender picks up a beer glass that’s already full and begins to “fill” it. It’s a prop. But a noticeable mistake nonetheless
They are in hell the dogs represent demons if not the devil in Dante’s Inferno the devil is represented by a dog eating the damned in the opening monologue Ottway even says he feels he is the walking damned. Just an interpretation.
Oh, interesting! Could you please use punctuation so your comments can more easily be understood? Just a period after "damned" would have helped. Anyway, I thought the devil in Dante's Inferno was in the lowest level of hell entrapped in the ice?
Did you watch the last scene after the credits?
Beautiful
I think the wolves are supposed to represent them dying and down spiralling,maybe like hypothermia
Interesting take!
The Grey was a fantastic Movie I just wish the ending was a little better would have liked to see the battle with the Wolf that would have been awesome 😃
You wanted to see him get ripped apart? What would be the point in that? This isn't the Roman Coliseum. Ending the film where it did made the film special, not just another survival story [ETA: where no one survives!]. A fight showing them both dying would have just been depressing, not inspiring. If you just want to see fake fighting, watch the WWE!!
There is a post credit shot, why doesn't anyone talk about it?
Because it's irrelevant. What does it really tell you? That Neeson's character came out on top? Why does that even matter? You don't think he's going to just continue on walking until he reaches civilization after something like that?
@@DonnaBrooksYep. He was severely wounded many miles from help in a brutal climate. He is dead. It adds nothing. In my opinion it was a pointless addition to the film.
people that say wolves dont hunt people have no idea what they are talking about or anything about human history
Anyone who thinks this is unrealistic has not read about what wolves did to people in Paris and what they did to ARMED SOLDIERS in world war 1
For real, the French and Germans had to work together to survive an entire pack.
Damn,I read about that.... it's scary tbh. I never thought wolves could act in such a way
I say just kill every one of the 4-legged mutt bastards and make coats out of them.
Alpha is God Father's messenger to prevent Neeson from committing suicide. She tells him "don't die that way. You will be damned. Come here, you'll die the right way. Great movie.
That's crap. God sends a wolf to kill him. That's one shitty deity you got there. If God was a loving God, he would have rescued Neeson & spared his life. This idea that you go to hell if you commit suicide is Roman Catholic doctrine & it's bullshit. You might believe it, but that doesn't make it true.
One Great movie masterpiece 👌
PS. Excellent analysis, by the way! Thank You for this work (...BRILLIANT!...) - ...but that "NO MAS!" - tattoo on Diaz 's neck was "bugging" me for quite a bit. Why anyone would take a phrase famous for being an admission of defeat, and - seemingly - consider it as some sort "I'm a badass!" motto?? ...hence I just had to add this post! Diaz betrays himself just like Roberto Duràn (...kinda!..) "betrayed" himself in his rematch against Leonard. However (obviously!) that didn't end Duràn's career - rather put even additional weight on him and (in a way) a bad "stigma", that followed him throughout the rest of his career. IT HAS TO BE SAID, THOUGH - that Roberto Duràn (unlike Diaz!) was NOT KILLED BY WOLVES IN ALASKA! 😂 ...HE ENDURED - PERSEVERED - and "washed away" that "weight" many years later when he fought against a MONSTER OF A MAN as well a FRIGHTENING Boxer, by the name of IRAN BARKLEY! ...and WON IN A SPECTACULAR FASHION! If you're interested to know the full story behind that "NO MAS!" tattoo & its true meaning, just digit the following: "Leonard vs Duràn I" (better known as "the Brawl in Montreal") - then "Leonard vs. Duràn II" (the famous "No màs!" or "Nevermore!"-fight) and - on an ending note "Duràn vs. Barkley". The latter of those three fights ( probably! ) gave finally a sort of "absolution" in the eyes of his fans at least, from admitting defeat against Leonard. However I highly doubt that Roberto Duràn ever forgave HIMSELF (...but that's another story for another life!).
Said my "piece"! 🙂 ...sorry if it was too long, but this movie (The Grey") seems TO NEVER ABANDON you, once you've watched it! 😄 Regards.
I definitely think you're overplaying the alpha wolf I don't think he's one of the best monsters of all time yes it played well within the confines of the movie but compared to other monsters it's low to mid-tier average at best
Great movie all the way through until the end where it has hands down the worst ending I have ever seen in any movie ever before or since.
WTF??!! That ending makes this movie stand out among all the typical survival stories! If he were to be rescued by a search party or stumble onto civilization, how could that be better than what happened? The willingness to fight was the climax of the story. Anything after that would have just detracted from the whole point of the story!
I think the alpha wolf represents an alpha wolf, I believe you are overthinking this film.
I disqualified the entire commentary because you used the word "ekspecially" do you know how difficult it is to express this when autocorrect refuses to accept that I am trying to convey how much I hate that word?