I hope you liked a new video after a long break. Please let me also know what you think about the premiere function. The image quality wasn't really good, right? When watching it normally the image quality is much better.
@@keithaj1983 You also really need a proper enclosure. Aluminum is nasty stuff in fine shavings: Toxic, abrasive (maybe not to steel, but to wood, fabric, most plastics, and FLESH, it certainly is), and combustible.
Great review, Marius. It looks like a great machine and I am looking forward to more projects. All of your videos are extremely well done and I always enjoy them. Irv in Florida
Glad too see a new video from you. Also happy that you received this cnc. Hopefully we will see some new woodworking/buildvideos soon. Greetings from Belgium.
After 40 years of woodworking, you are making me jealous. I viewed your video some time back when you received your Hammer saw. It made me consider Hammer more seriously than I had. The fact that you work in a basement is amazing, as well as with that size saw. Hammer table saw will be my next big purchase. Now you have a Hammer CNC. Now more jealous than before. You have made some very good choices on your equipment. Equipment that will last you a lifetime and then some. Keep up the good work.
Great looking machine... It's nice to see a machine aimed at the small workshop. Like that it's pre assembled and is very price competitive. Nice to see you back.
Welcome back! Sure glad to see your videos again, outstanding as always! Quite impressed with the CNC. Very clean looking machine. Looking forward to more videos showing off the new tool!
I’m just happy to see another video from you, Marius. It’s always a bit exciting to see a notification that you’ve posted another video. I’ve missed your videos lately. Great, unbiased review of what looks like a high quality machine. Exactly what I would have expected from Felder. Thanks for sharing.
Yay! Great to see a new video. And super-pleased that Felder sponsors your talent. When you fixed your table saw a few years ago and presented the results to Felder I bet they saw your engineering talent and thought “we gotta back this guy as he really is an “influencer” on social media”. And kudos to you for being the first to review ……
Good to see you back. This is an excellent initial review of what looks like a good machine - but - can't believe they have not used ball screws! this clearly effects the accuracy and will only get worse with time. Look forward to seeing some projects made on it.
Great machine Marius...👍. Your reviews are really good, you take the time to explain everything very well and show all the information so it’s easy to understand. I have learned a lot from watching your RUclips content. Thank you.
Felder hat sich da echt was feines ausgedacht und gut umgesetzt, besonders die Art der Steuerung und Positionskontrolle des Werkzeugs (und der extra dazu angeschaffte Werkzeuglängensensor ist sowieso die Krönung)
I don't think I've seen a similar manual tool-changer like that. Very cool. I just wish Felder's products were available in the US. Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy your videos.
You might want to use single flute cutters - for wood and aluminium. Can produce larger chips and makes cutting a lot easier. I find 3-4 flute tools bind too easily and need coolant. Do you know if they have a safety input for a door enclosure? If this is going to find it's way into educational environments it'll need that kind of safety considerations.
Glad to see a new video from you. Don’t know what that premier stuff is all about. I watch your video for the content and the dry humorous way you present it.
It surprises me that you got a second CNC instead of trying to build one yourself now that you already have one. I know it's a lot of work and maybe you're too busy and need it to just work, but it's an amazing project and you learn quite a lot doing it. Obviously if it was free you cannot complain!
@Marius: Aluminum sticks/welds to the endmill so you really need lubrication to prevent it and allow your bit to actually cut. Otherwise you're just rubbing aluminum against aluminum and that takes a lot of spindle power for bad results. Small amounts of WD-40 work fine, but the mess it makes even @1500 RPM is bad. At 5k or 10k RPM it would be much worse. There are some endmills with special coatings that prevent this effect as well.
Using wd-40 for aluminium is just a terrible band aid helping slightly against rubbing. It also makes the chips stick together increasing the risk of recutting them. Better prevent rubbing altogether with proper feeds and speeds, also use an airblast to get the chips out of slots and pockets.
@@philipweser8774 Not necessary. Use a coated or polished end mill and climb mill. I never use any lubricant and don't have any problems with chip welding.
@@ChristophPech just two questions to think about: 1. Why do you have to use cutting oil on a lathe of when tapping (both situations where chip welding is no issue)? 2. Why does almost every shop use a lubricating coolant or a cutting oil?
@@philipweser8774 1. I use tapping oil for steel but not for aluminium. 2. Shops use flood cooling for aluminium to keep the part cool so it does not expand and to clear away the chips.
I've had my anti backlash plastic screw nuts on my machine for nearly 7 years and have no noticeable wear on them. I keep them clean and put a very light oil on them. I also have only about 1000 hours work on the machine so not too much but the plastic nuts are really good for these types of machines. Nice review. :-)
Good to see you have upgraded your CNC capabilities. I have had a similar machine for about 10 years and use it daily...Mostly on our hardwoods here in Hawaiʻi. Enjoy!
The limiting factor of that CNC is the spindle HP, but it’s also the slow rapids/feedrates. When you’re going 25,000rpm, you’re supposed to speed up the feedrate, not slow it down. Especially when using a 2-3 flute endmill. Like on a treadmill. Imagine having 2 legs stuck in high gear and running on a treadmill that’s moving too slow for your speed. My suggestion is use a single flute endmill, or ramp those feedrates way up, and lower your depth of cut per pass to accommodate that spindle power. Good video and review.
"That's not what I told you to do"? It's a CNC it did exactly what you told it to do. Unfortunately, they don't know when to not listen to the operator.
I'm so thankful for your videos and choices. I love hammer machines, we have the C3 31 combo machine and absolutely love it so love having your resources for tips. And a hammer CNC machine would be an incredible addition to the workshop so keep the videos coming. The other I'd love too know more about their band saws too though.
When you flatten the bad, leave a 25mm "ridge" at one end. This allows you to automatically align a blank, knowing it is square to the machine... You can also scre a batten onto the spoil board then run the cutter along it, that will do the same job. I have 2 battens fixed to the spoil board giving alignment in X and Y axis. it makes set up a lot quicker and easier. Google "Sweet dreams CNC" for an illustration.
When everything is flat I can also work on pieces that are longer than the workarea. My plan is to make some holes for pins that serve the purpose of a fixed guide
If you put the batten down the side, AND run the cutter along it, it will be more accurate than pins and you loose none of the flexibility you mention.. I'm surprised you didn't mention the linear rails for the Z axis being so close together, when at full extension, theres an awful lot of leverage on the gantry, which by the way is the weakest link of the stiffness. I thought I noticed lateral movement in the gantry when you pushed on it, but you didn't do it again. :-) The best method of conserving stiffness is to have the complete movement contained within the bearing footprint. Once outside, like the spindle, the leverage generated can produce very large forces very quickly even in wood. (this is a bad thing! ) There are many variables but loads of 40 or 50 newtons can be generated before the leverage comes into play and things get a lot worse. Linear bearings are strongest, in load carrying capacity against the top surface, then IIRC the sides then the bottom. Having the Z axis bearings facing forward, the loading is mainly carried by the sides of the bearing. Better load carrying capacity would be had by mounting the bearings at the top facing up and the bottom facing down. As the tool hits the work surface, the load is transferred into the top of the bottom rail and the 'leverage' into the side of the top rail. Would be interested in seeing the machine without the sheet steel cladding. Love the quick tool change system. Very elegant.
Another RUclipsr (don't remember who) used a V-bit to cut a 1" grid into his spoil board. An idea just now: Cut a grid of slots. Use sticks in the slots (sized for a friction fit) just like you would use pins.
Great video and demonstration, as always :) Keep the good work ;) Does it come with the CAM software? Is the controlling software able to do 3D - sculptures or needs any additional activations? Fo the installation of the 4th axis is any software activation needed?
Awesome machine Marius. And welcome back. Good review. Vedran Latin told about lubrication (by Alu) , maybe it's also a good tip to use a 2-flute milling bit ("twee-snijder" in dutch), this is better for downward movement. Downwards gives a lot of friction. Sorry for my bat English.
For metal in general, and aluminum in particular, you need sufficient clamping. And let's just say you were "light" on your clamping of aluminum for the test. One more clamp on the camera side wouldn't let it get gripped by the end mill. The machine can easily cut aluminum as you demonstrated!
I still run a German made Techno-Isel Davinci III with an 850 watt Kress spindle. It was made in the mid 80's so it's older than you are. It is very well made and still runs great. The software is a bit of a thrill to run. I have CNC designs out on Thingiverse where I go by the name of Openscaddad. If you are used to taking STL files to tool paths, you might give the designs a try.
This coming from my industrial cnc multi axis router experience...... looks like a well made machine, one thing though, none of these smaller machines have vaccum tables. Routed grid pattern in a thin piece of phenolic and a mdf fly board.
Single flute end mills are the way to go in aluminum on a spindle/router that can't be slowed down enough. 1 flute will get you closer to the correct feed per tooth. Datron makes some good ones. Important to have the feed per tooth close to the cutter specification.
17:51 "That was not part of the program" - oh Yes it was :D it always is! Anyway cool machine! That quick change is awesome never seen something like that
What a surprise: the premier function and the new product from Felder. Very cool video as usual ! And a very good review. One improvement might be a flap for the tool length sensor. So you could flip it away before you start your routing. The tool changer is awesome ! But how easy is the PC program to learn ? A Fusion360 or even a Sketchup needs a lot of learning compared to e.g. a small 2D program. Maybe a movie around the software would help ?
Marius Hornberger thanks for the fast answer. I looked up ending cnc and that looked easy.BUT the challenge is the whole E2E process. First you need a design tool, then CAM , and then the g-Code ( that seems to ramm the tool sometimes into the plate ? 🤪) Shaper Origin is using SVG and transfer that into the Maschine. That looked a bit easier when I used it. You made a video about 3D printing an tools that are worth, have you made similar stuff with the X-carf (your former cnc) ? I try to find out, how many usecases would a hobbiest have ? While tablesaw , bandsaw or other tools could be used by grabbing, a cnc looks like more planning effort and so the E2E time might be longer for one piece than a standard tool combination??? What do you think ?
Schön, dass du wieder zurück bist. Diese CNC Sache ist nicht wirklich meins, aber du entwickelst dich weiter, nicht zuletzt durch dein Studium 😎. Schade allerdings, ich hab deine Präzisions-Holzbastel-Videos geliebt
Ciao Marius, above all congrats for the passion you put in your videos, not easy to find a so high level of competence and passion around. My question for you is about the CNC itself. I guess you put a look on the market and compared the Hammer with some other competitors. What about Hammer vs Stepcratf M, Sorotec basic line, or Mekanika, at least roughly. The many belts this CNC has do not decrease the overall solidity, it is not a weak point? This is my doubt. Thanks for your help.
Wie sind denn die Abmessungen / benötigte Standfläche der CNC? Ist leider nirgendwo zu finden. P.S. Danke fürs ausführliche Video und schön dass du zurück bist 😉
I am currently in the market for a desktop cnc and am looking at the Hammer 47.82. Came across your video and you :-). Great video. You have had this cnc for 2 years now, what have you been using it for? It would be interesting to see a video of you reviewing the cnc now that you have been using it for 2 years.
Felder makes nice machines, but I'd be concerned about the spindle mounting bracket being too weak -- looks like cutting forces would cause a lot of flex with a bracket that small.
Some Tipps: for Aluminum always use Single Flute Endmills they much easyer for your spindle, never go to slow in Feedrate your tool wants to cut not to grind. Better less Depth of cut than Feed per Tooth.
Great video! I have several hammer and felder machines, and they are always great. However the prices are never cheap... Great review! I can really see instrumentmakers and such get great use out of this. I do however wonder how hard the software is to learn/understand.
@Satoshi Analysis what you say is probably true (even if in Europe the entry price for a full 6040 is over 1750€). BUT, pay peanuts get monkies. 6040 is not a standard. Low price 6040 have unsupported rails, small leadscrews with backlash bronze nuts, small stepper motors and single board with TB6600 onboard drivers. All that mounted on a chewy structure. That's exactly what you don't want from a CNC router. A proper 6040 with Chinese ballscrews and SBR rails is priced 2500€ plus taxes. The Hammer have much better rails and a larger travel area. Its leadscrew looks properly dimensioned and does not looks to have backlash, even with wrong feed and speed milling aluminium. Remember a lot of professional metal lathes have leadscrews with no precision lack. That's why I said the Hammer looks like a pretty good value for money. We don't want to buy a price tag but a proper tool. 😉
@@mhe0815 Quality guides and transmission are much expensive, but are also stronger and last longer than v-wheels. Belt transmission does not hold a lot of machining force without stretching. The leadscrew version of the workbee uses Chinese 8mm leadscrews which are very light, especially for larger versions. About the frame, aluminium should be about 3 times thicker than steel for the same stiff abilities. But steel stills dump vibrations better, because vibration dumping is all about density/weight. So measure the gap between a plain 8mm steel frame and hollow aluminium beams with 3mm walls. It's not about price, but about abilities. There's no secret, you can't make a capable CNC on the cheap. That's why a pro CNC router is 10 times a workbee price tag. The hammer looks like very close to a professional machine. It's not hobby range but much a good trade range machine. You pay for what you get
Ciao Marius, great video as usual. Only one question: at minute 1:20 you mention that you wished to have a function but due to the price target Felder did not implement it. I cannot clearly understand what you meant, can you please specify? Thanks a lot for you work. Gabriele
This guy (Marius Hornberger) makes some of the best, most informative, helpful, and needed woodworking videos ever. Truly ingenious! Thanks Marius
In future videos when you go to use the CNC you will be able to say "Its Hammer time"
Ha ha 😂 good one
It was so obvious...but so true.
...but please don't...
He already has a Hammer table saw
with Arnold-accent of course
Welcome back Marius!! We’ve been waiting you!! Video image isn't so bad . I'm really excited about what you got with the new machine.
We haven't seen him in so long he's grown facial hair.
I hope you liked a new video after a long break. Please let me also know what you think about the premiere function. The image quality wasn't really good, right? When watching it normally the image quality is much better.
I think that the image quality adds to the feeling of authenticity, (though I'm still not a fan of RUclips Premier.)
Good 💖💗💞💞👍❤️🤝❣️👌
Great video! Hate premiere.
You really need lube for aluminum, it is very gummy, wd40 works fantastic.
@@keithaj1983 You also really need a proper enclosure. Aluminum is nasty stuff in fine shavings: Toxic, abrasive (maybe not to steel, but to wood, fabric, most plastics, and FLESH, it certainly is), and combustible.
Its morning in Canada and there's nothing better than Marius Hornberger in the morning
Great review, Marius. It looks like a great machine and I am looking forward to more projects. All of your videos are extremely well done and I always enjoy them. Irv in Florida
The quick change for the router bits is so cool
Glad too see a new video from you. Also happy that you received this cnc. Hopefully we will see some new woodworking/buildvideos soon. Greetings from Belgium.
After 40 years of woodworking, you are making me jealous. I viewed your video some time back when you received your Hammer saw. It made me consider Hammer more seriously than I had. The fact that you work in a basement is amazing, as well as with that size saw. Hammer table saw will be my next big purchase. Now you have a Hammer CNC. Now more jealous than before. You have made some very good choices on your equipment. Equipment that will last you a lifetime and then some. Keep up the good work.
Great video and review of the Hammer. Felder informed us of your review, I've been looking at your other videos... I couldn't stop watching :)
Great looking machine... It's nice to see a machine aimed at the small workshop. Like that it's pre assembled and is very price competitive. Nice to see you back.
Welcome back, definitely missed your videos
Welcome back! Sure glad to see your videos again, outstanding as always! Quite impressed with the CNC. Very clean looking machine. Looking forward to more videos showing off the new tool!
I’m just happy to see another video from you, Marius. It’s always a bit exciting to see a notification that you’ve posted another video. I’ve missed your videos lately.
Great, unbiased review of what looks like a high quality machine. Exactly what I would have expected from Felder. Thanks for sharing.
Yay! Great to see a new video. And super-pleased that Felder sponsors your talent. When you fixed your table saw a few years ago and presented the results to Felder I bet they saw your engineering talent and thought “we gotta back this guy as he really is an “influencer” on social media”. And kudos to you for being the first to review ……
Really glad to have an neighbouring EU woodworker. Not only can I relate to the products, but actually go out and buy them. Greeting from Denmark
Glad for your come back my European friend. Also that cnc looks sick. Would love to have one
Oh my sweet carpenter...a MARIUS video on my on my 40th birthday, could this day get any better 🥳
Clive Oldfield happy birthday
Good to see you back. This is an excellent initial review of what looks like a good machine - but - can't believe they have not used ball screws! this clearly effects the accuracy and will only get worse with time.
Look forward to seeing some projects made on it.
Great machine Marius...👍. Your reviews are really good, you take the time to explain everything very well and show all the information so it’s easy to understand. I have learned a lot from watching your RUclips content. Thank you.
Bro!! It's been forever since your last video! Good to have you back
nice to see you back , i was waiting for it Love the machine something to dream of for now lol
Felder hat sich da echt was feines ausgedacht und gut umgesetzt, besonders die Art der Steuerung und Positionskontrolle des Werkzeugs (und der extra dazu angeschaffte Werkzeuglängensensor ist sowieso die Krönung)
I don't think I've seen a similar manual tool-changer like that. Very cool. I just wish Felder's products were available in the US. Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy your videos.
They should be available in the US
You might want to use single flute cutters - for wood and aluminium. Can produce larger chips and makes cutting a lot easier. I find 3-4 flute tools bind too easily and need coolant. Do you know if they have a safety input for a door enclosure? If this is going to find it's way into educational environments it'll need that kind of safety considerations.
I don't think so. But maybe you can make that work with the additional I/O port
Really missed your videos Marius. The CNC is awesome, it's on my list of "must buy" items.
Thank you for sharing this review,
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Good review. (I agree with everything that you said.) Nice to see you again and I look forward to seeing what you use this to create.
Great to see you back. Looking forward to seeing you more
Glad to see a new video from you. Don’t know what that premier stuff is all about. I watch your video for the content and the dry humorous way you present it.
It surprises me that you got a second CNC instead of trying to build one yourself now that you already have one. I know it's a lot of work and maybe you're too busy and need it to just work, but it's an amazing project and you learn quite a lot doing it. Obviously if it was free you cannot complain!
Long time no see!
Glad to see you back.
Don't use premiere, its extremely annoying to think a video is up, but really isn't.
Thanks for the feedback
@@MariusHornberger agreed... One of your strengths is your visual humour after-production
Awesome! But that is always from Marius. A born genius for sure. You have been missed kind Sir.
wow 🥳 what a nice machine! Also good to see you being back making some really nice videos 😉👍🏼
Awesome looking machine. Very slick and easy to clean. Its very hard to find a good quality machine that is also compact.
So glad you're back! You look great. Nice router too.
@Marius: Aluminum sticks/welds to the endmill so you really need lubrication to prevent it and allow your bit to actually cut. Otherwise you're just rubbing aluminum against aluminum and that takes a lot of spindle power for bad results. Small amounts of WD-40 work fine, but the mess it makes even @1500 RPM is bad. At 5k or 10k RPM it would be much worse. There are some endmills with special coatings that prevent this effect as well.
Using wd-40 for aluminium is just a terrible band aid helping slightly against rubbing. It also makes the chips stick together increasing the risk of recutting them. Better prevent rubbing altogether with proper feeds and speeds, also use an airblast to get the chips out of slots and pockets.
Cutting oil still is a must
@@philipweser8774 Not necessary. Use a coated or polished end mill and climb mill. I never use any lubricant and don't have any problems with chip welding.
@@ChristophPech just two questions to think about: 1. Why do you have to use cutting oil on a lathe of when tapping (both situations where chip welding is no issue)?
2. Why does almost every shop use a lubricating coolant or a cutting oil?
@@philipweser8774 1. I use tapping oil for steel but not for aluminium. 2. Shops use flood cooling for aluminium to keep the part cool so it does not expand and to clear away the chips.
It's so awesome to see you getting great equipment. You deserve to have high quality tools.
Congratulations on your new machine!
I've had my anti backlash plastic screw nuts on my machine for nearly 7 years and have no noticeable wear on them. I keep them clean and put a very light oil on them. I also have only about 1000 hours work on the machine so not too much but the plastic nuts are really good for these types of machines. Nice review. :-)
I love the quick change bit release handle! that saves a lot of time!!!
Missed your videos, Marius! Great one today - thank you! From the middle of California...
Good to see you have upgraded your CNC capabilities. I have had a similar machine for about 10 years and use it daily...Mostly on our hardwoods here in Hawaiʻi. Enjoy!
Congrats on the fresh tools dude! Can't wait for more Felder vids.
Cheers
The limiting factor of that CNC is the spindle HP, but it’s also the slow rapids/feedrates. When you’re going 25,000rpm, you’re supposed to speed up the feedrate, not slow it down. Especially when using a 2-3 flute endmill. Like on a treadmill. Imagine having 2 legs stuck in high gear and running on a treadmill that’s moving too slow for your speed. My suggestion is use a single flute endmill, or ramp those feedrates way up, and lower your depth of cut per pass to accommodate that spindle power. Good video and review.
Thank you Marius for always inspiring me! Great job reviewing the CNC :)
super Video zu einer super Maschine. Da werden meine alten CNC-Zeiten wieder geweckt!
Love the videos Marius, always informative. Gary, Ontario Canada
"That's not what I told you to do"? It's a CNC it did exactly what you told it to do. Unfortunately, they don't know when to not listen to the operator.
Congrats on the sponsorship! Looking forward to seeing what you do with it
I'm so thankful for your videos and choices. I love hammer machines, we have the C3 31 combo machine and absolutely love it so love having your resources for tips. And a hammer CNC machine would be an incredible addition to the workshop so keep the videos coming. The other I'd love too know more about their band saws too though.
Good to see you’re back Marcus… It’s been a while since we’ve seen a video from you.
Marcus?
Wow, that is a sturdy piece of hardware. Very impressive.
Good job Marius. As usual, a view that's not tainted.
When you flatten the bad, leave a 25mm "ridge" at one end. This allows you to automatically align a blank, knowing it is square to the machine... You can also scre a batten onto the spoil board then run the cutter along it, that will do the same job. I have 2 battens fixed to the spoil board giving alignment in X and Y axis. it makes set up a lot quicker and easier. Google "Sweet dreams CNC" for an illustration.
When everything is flat I can also work on pieces that are longer than the workarea. My plan is to make some holes for pins that serve the purpose of a fixed guide
If you put the batten down the side, AND run the cutter along it, it will be more accurate than pins and you loose none of the flexibility you mention.. I'm surprised you didn't mention the linear rails for the Z axis being so close together, when at full extension, theres an awful lot of leverage on the gantry, which by the way is the weakest link of the stiffness. I thought I noticed lateral movement in the gantry when you pushed on it, but you didn't do it again. :-) The best method of conserving stiffness is to have the complete movement contained within the bearing footprint. Once outside, like the spindle, the leverage generated can produce very large forces very quickly even in wood. (this is a bad thing! ) There are many variables but loads of 40 or 50 newtons can be generated before the leverage comes into play and things get a lot worse. Linear bearings are strongest, in load carrying capacity against the top surface, then IIRC the sides then the bottom. Having the Z axis bearings facing forward, the loading is mainly carried by the sides of the bearing. Better load carrying capacity would be had by mounting the bearings at the top facing up and the bottom facing down. As the tool hits the work surface, the load is transferred into the top of the bottom rail and the 'leverage' into the side of the top rail. Would be interested in seeing the machine without the sheet steel cladding. Love the quick tool change system. Very elegant.
Another RUclipsr (don't remember who) used a V-bit to cut a 1" grid into his spoil board.
An idea just now: Cut a grid of slots. Use sticks in the slots (sized for a friction fit) just like you would use pins.
Welcome back Marius!
Nice video Marius. Missed your videos. Nice one. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Good to see you making videos again.
Excited to see a new video from you! Good stuff Marius!
Great video and demonstration, as always :) Keep the good work ;) Does it come with the CAM software? Is the controlling software able to do 3D - sculptures or needs any additional activations? Fo the installation of the 4th axis is any software activation needed?
Awesome machine Marius. And welcome back. Good review.
Vedran Latin told about lubrication (by Alu) , maybe it's also a good tip to use a 2-flute milling bit ("twee-snijder" in dutch), this is better for downward movement. Downwards gives a lot of friction.
Sorry for my bat English.
Great review My Friend👍 Happy New CNC!
For metal in general, and aluminum in particular, you need sufficient clamping. And let's just say you were "light" on your clamping of aluminum for the test. One more clamp on the camera side wouldn't let it get gripped by the end mill. The machine can easily cut aluminum as you demonstrated!
The fast tool change is great!
Top class video as always... you haven't lost your touch. :o) That's a stunning piece of kit! I am so envious.
I still run a German made Techno-Isel Davinci III with an 850 watt Kress spindle. It was made in the mid 80's so it's older than you are. It is very well made and still runs great. The software is a bit of a thrill to run. I have CNC designs out on Thingiverse where I go by the name of Openscaddad. If you are used to taking STL files to tool paths, you might give the designs a try.
Cool, I'll check it out
@@MariusHornberger www.thingiverse.com/OpenScadDad/collections/cnc-projects
Hello! I just got the same cnc and was wondering where you bought those t-slot nuts?
Yes, welcome back! I hope, you upload for more videos! ;-)
This coming from my industrial cnc multi axis router experience...... looks like a well made machine, one thing though, none of these smaller machines have vaccum tables. Routed grid pattern in a thin piece of phenolic and a mdf fly board.
Man I want that tool changer! Looks like a nice machine.
Jeremy Schmidt www.sorotec.de/shop/Mafell-FM1000-230V-50Hz-9182.html
@@mezzoo2 Thank You Thank You Thank you
Single flute end mills are the way to go in aluminum on a spindle/router that can't be slowed down enough. 1 flute will get you closer to the correct feed per tooth. Datron makes some good ones. Important to have the feed per tooth close to the cutter specification.
Good point. I only had a three flute available for the test
a 2-flute is fine and less expensive, but yeah 3 flutes is too many for 25k rpm and such a high feed rate
We cut sheet aluminum in our shop with a single flute 1/4" cutter. It does wonders at like 18000 rpm.
17:51 "That was not part of the program" - oh Yes it was :D it always is! Anyway cool machine! That quick change is awesome never seen something like that
Fantastic video. Thank you so much. I learn a lot from you and get lots of inspiration.
What a surprise: the premier function and the new product from Felder. Very cool video as usual ! And a very good review. One improvement might be a flap for the tool length sensor. So you could flip it away before you start your routing. The tool changer is awesome ! But how easy is the PC program to learn ? A Fusion360 or even a Sketchup needs a lot of learning compared to e.g. a small 2D program. Maybe a movie around the software would help ?
You only tell the software the G-code, so really easy. I make my G-codes with Fusion 360 and Aspire. Learning that takes indeed some time
Marius Hornberger thanks for the fast answer. I looked up ending cnc and that looked easy.BUT the challenge is the whole E2E process. First you need a design tool, then CAM , and then the g-Code ( that seems to ramm the tool sometimes into the plate ? 🤪)
Shaper Origin is using SVG and transfer that into the Maschine. That looked a bit easier when I used it.
You made a video about 3D printing an tools that are worth, have you made similar stuff with the X-carf (your former cnc) ?
I try to find out, how many usecases would a hobbiest have ? While tablesaw , bandsaw or other tools could be used by grabbing, a cnc looks like more planning effort and so the E2E time might be longer for one piece than a standard tool combination??? What do you think ?
Schön, dass du wieder zurück bist. Diese CNC Sache ist nicht wirklich meins, aber du entwickelst dich weiter, nicht zuletzt durch dein Studium 😎. Schade allerdings, ich hab deine Präzisions-Holzbastel-Videos geliebt
Hochpräzisionsbasteln Kokmmt auch bald wieder😉
Super cool review Marius, you really didn't handle it with care :) This is how a review should be! But it needs the parallel port ?
Ciao Marius, above all congrats for the passion you put in your videos, not easy to find a so high level of competence and passion around. My question for you is about the CNC itself. I guess you put a look on the market and compared the Hammer with some other competitors. What about Hammer vs Stepcratf M, Sorotec basic line, or Mekanika, at least roughly. The many belts this CNC has do not decrease the overall solidity, it is not a weak point? This is my doubt. Thanks for your help.
Love to have a CNC like this. Always look forward to your vids. Learn something new in every one.
I love it too much . Welcome back .
Can we have explain for that quick tool change ?
Instead of changing the tools with a wrench you only have to use that leaver, which tightens the router bits
Nice video! CNC looks really rigid! That spindle release lever is cool. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Wie sind denn die Abmessungen / benötigte Standfläche der CNC? Ist leider nirgendwo zu finden.
P.S. Danke fürs ausführliche Video und schön dass du zurück bist 😉
I am currently in the market for a desktop cnc and am looking at the Hammer 47.82. Came across your video and you :-). Great video. You have had this cnc for 2 years now, what have you been using it for? It would be interesting to see a video of you reviewing the cnc now that you have been using it for 2 years.
Love your channel. Looking forward to more projects on your new toy
Glad to see you making videos again. Hope to see more in the future.
Felder makes nice machines, but I'd be concerned about the spindle mounting bracket being too weak -- looks like cutting forces would cause a lot of flex with a bracket that small.
The rumors of Mariuses demise have been greatly exaggerated. Great to see you back.
Some Tipps: for Aluminum always use Single Flute Endmills they much easyer for your spindle, never go to slow in Feedrate your tool wants to cut not to grind. Better less Depth of cut than Feed per Tooth.
Great video! I have several hammer and felder machines, and they are always great. However the prices are never cheap... Great review! I can really see instrumentmakers and such get great use out of this.
I do however wonder how hard the software is to learn/understand.
Gerade den Katalog bekommen und schon eine Review. Perfekt!
Hallo,
Woher bekomme ich den Katalog, und wo liegt der Preis für die Maschine + Software?
Vielen Dank
@@Pharao43986 www.felder-group.com
Der Grundpreis beträgt 3500 Euro
Lucky you ! The burning question: retail price ? 3500€ dry. It sounds a good value for money.
@Satoshi Analysis what you say is probably true (even if in Europe the entry price for a full 6040 is over 1750€). BUT, pay peanuts get monkies. 6040 is not a standard. Low price 6040 have unsupported rails, small leadscrews with backlash bronze nuts, small stepper motors and single board with TB6600 onboard drivers. All that mounted on a chewy structure. That's exactly what you don't want from a CNC router. A proper 6040 with Chinese ballscrews and SBR rails is priced 2500€ plus taxes. The Hammer have much better rails and a larger travel area. Its leadscrew looks properly dimensioned and does not looks to have backlash, even with wrong feed and speed milling aluminium. Remember a lot of professional metal lathes have leadscrews with no precision lack. That's why I said the Hammer looks like a pretty good value for money. We don't want to buy a price tag but a proper tool. 😉
It looks more solid than a Shapeoko or a Workbee, but it is also twice as expensive...
@@mhe0815 Quality guides and transmission are much expensive, but are also stronger and last longer than v-wheels. Belt transmission does not hold a lot of machining force without stretching. The leadscrew version of the workbee uses Chinese 8mm leadscrews which are very light, especially for larger versions. About the frame, aluminium should be about 3 times thicker than steel for the same stiff abilities. But steel stills dump vibrations better, because vibration dumping is all about density/weight. So measure the gap between a plain 8mm steel frame and hollow aluminium beams with 3mm walls.
It's not about price, but about abilities. There's no secret, you can't make a capable CNC on the cheap. That's why a pro CNC router is 10 times a workbee price tag. The hammer looks like very close to a professional machine. It's not hobby range but much a good trade range machine. You pay for what you get
I must still be in the stone age...That just blew my mind ...whatever next... voice control ? "beam me up"
Hi Marius, what flattening bit are you using and would you recommend it?
Thanks,
Miha
Très jolie machine,maintenant il faut produire !!!!! à bientôt salut Jeannot 🛠🛠😉
Hello Marius, again thank you for you videos, how is the CNC running? I’m interested in getting one. Thank you.
Ciao Marius, great video as usual. Only one question: at minute 1:20 you mention that you wished to have a function but due to the price target Felder did not implement it. I cannot clearly understand what you meant, can you please specify? Thanks a lot for you work. Gabriele
Now I have to save up again. Just bought the HAMMER HS 950 beltsander. No holiday this year.
Good review! Love your videos. How is your school coming?
A very solid machine, well worth the money
Great review. Thanks for sharing. Looks really like a good machine. I wish you can make a lot of nice things with it.
Thank you for the great review. Is there a Solidworks compatible post processor for this machine?