The Untold Story of Saix's Scar & Subject X | KH4 Theory
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- "As your flesh bears the sigil, so your name shall be known as that of a recusant."
I've always liked that line. Maybe it has some relevance here... maybe not. If not, there are some alternatives to consider...
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My future dream scene of Isa and Luxu:
He asks Luxu to take him to Subject X and Luxu is like, "Is she that important to you?" and he bows and begs and then Luxu is just like, "In that case, the answer is no!"
It'll never happen, but it's just too ironic how he treated Sora for trying to save a girl he cares for, and yet look at him risking it all for the same reason, arguably in an even more extreme way.. smh
So deep and unique I think!
Aahahahaha that would be a killer burn
"You rotten!" 💀💀💀
He’s been around Lea for all their lives. I can see saix doing something that petty
Him branding himself to remind himself is most likely what happened. But if it's true, it's most likely will only be said, not shown.
Something similar to the explanation of Axel's tear "tattoo"
Hm, how very interesting.
Personally, i would like to see a game that focuses on Lea’s and Isa’s continued search of Subject X with the help of Roxas and Xion and maybe also Namine and the Twilight Trio,
‘Cause what else are they supposed to do after getting informed by Donald and Goofy and while Riku is doing his own thing with bringing Sora back?
Just chill and wait things out? Nah, that would be a colossal wasted opportunity in my opinion, so they might as well just pass the time with resuming their search for Subject X with the help of their new group of friends,
I actually has a fun little idea about how they could go about it within the game too, by following a trail of certain specific Secret Reports from KH3, ‘cause wouldn’t that be a funny and interesting idea? Having the characters actually interact with the Reports that seems to have always been sprinkled throughout the games?
That was exactly one of the things I was hoping would be part of the game coming before KH4, but I guess not. Maybe it'll be in KH4 or sometime after or perhaps even released as some movie or something
@@NextGenNovelist hm, maybe, let’s hope.
Dude I've heard the idea he'll do it.. But I honestly can't imagine them animating him doing it to himself lmao. If this wasn't a Disney game then maybe but yeah I'm with you on them probably having to show it some other way. Maybe it was a mark from darkness like what happened to Eraqus. That's a good way of showing it I think and fits with what you're saying
It's totally option 3. Idk what spell Skuld (or whoever) cast on him but it's working for sure because he's enchanted af lol
Also if the star wars video is going to be anything like your arcane one then I can't wait!
Well you were right when you said on your last video the next one would be sooner than I thought lol. Great theory once again
I like to think that Saix gave himself the scar. Saix is someone who takes friendship seriously, and all he had was Axel and Skuld (Subject X). In Skuld's case: it was a way to make Saix remember her and what his goal is. In Axel's case: The "X" is what connected him to Roxas and Xion, and Saix was jealous. With this hurt he felt of being abandoned by Axel, the jealousy of him having friends, and the rage fueling it, he could have scared his face that way. Or maybe it was a cool of the 2.
NexGen: It could be either of these 3 theories. The best one is....
Me: *Mouth gaps open in anticipiation for which well done theory I liked best.*
NexGen: None of these 3. Sub X did it.
Me:
🙂....😐....😑.....😵
Lol my inner storyteller came out then and I did a mini plot twist
I like the first possibility the most. It makes sense and makes Isa's relationship with the Xehanorts more...something. That said I am really also alright with it being an accident or caused during a fight right before he become a Nobody the first time. I really don't think Isa did it to himself. At lest not before he become a Nobody.
This video really makes me want a game showing the time between BBS, and KH1 a lot more just so much things happen.
Lauriam and Elrena likely witness Maleficent bringing heartless to the Enchanted Dominion, and Dwarf Woodlands. I wouldn't even be surprised if Castle of Dreams was also shown.
Either Ienzo, or Kairi likely witness Luxu taking over Braig. Most likely Ienzo because he seems to know something is fishy about Braig.
Seeing Lea and Isa's story about meeting Subject X, becoming friends, then losing her. In fact the whole Subject X storyline could be shared.
All the students of Ansem the Wise becoming Nobodies.
Kairi and what happened to her Grandma. Then her landing in Destiny Islands.
Who uses the five Arks in Radiant Garden which causes it to become Hollow Bastion.
Maleficent taking over Hollow Bastion.
There is just way to much in that time period for it all to be given to us in flashbacks. I really want a full game. Even if the gameplay is all stealth gameplay at first before the characters start getting real weapons over time.
That said they would only give us this game if they are ready to show us who Subject X is. Which they might not be ready to show until DR or ML because I do think she is most likely from one of those games. Mostly because I think the Four Friends and a Key is a single event that we haven't seen yet. And because I think there is at lest one more Ark traveling group maybe more. And it is going to destroy another world. Most likely the world that was around before the Land of Departure got such a odd name. Though I wouldn't really be surprised if Ark travel happens more then once in those two games.
I do struggle to guess who would be the playable character in such a game.
Isa and Lea both have a rather big story. And it would be fairly easy to make them playable. Even in a mostly stealth game there needs to be movement options that make it fun to play.
Ienzo has a lot of hints that he knows to much. And I could see is book of illusions being useable even at a very young age. Which might make for fun gameplay.
Aeleus and Dilan might be fun to play as, if only because they are warriors. However they plus Even don't really have any foreshadowing of knowing a lot of what was happening in this time period. Braig/Luxu might be fun to play as but at the same time I don't think we will actually play as him.
Kairi is 50 50. At such a young age I doubt she would be fun to play as. And although she likely does find out things that are interesting I could honestly see her being cutscene only.
Then we have the maybe characters from outside of Radiant Garden, who have story that would be worth knowing.
Elrena is the first that comes to mind. She very clearly knows more then she is telling and since she most likely forgot everything then she had to have learned it since coming into the present. She would also be very fun to play as with her Lightening movement.
Lauriam is a maybe. I don't really get the feeling that he learned anything important before the Org found him. Yet at the same time he is a lot more of a main side character then Elrena is.
Demyx and Luxord are also possible but at the same time I have no idea what they would be doing. Getting an idea of where they where before the Org found them would be fun. But until we have a clearer idea of where they are from and where their story is going I struggle to think of them as playable characters.
Lastly Baby Sora and Riku. It's not needed mostly for the same reasons that Kairi wouldn't make sense. But I really want to see the meteor shower that beings Kairi from their point of view. I think it would be a lot of fun, maybe scary since the meteors need to land somewhat close to the islands in order for the islanders to find Kairi's pod but fun.
I'd love if they expanded on all these things. Honestly, I think some of the backstory doesn't even have to be in games, they could just do movies or something else so they don't have to worry about gameplay mechanics, but having a stealth KH game would be cool af
@@NextGenNovelist I don't really think all of it is going to be shown either. And think this game idea is very unlikely to happen, and I know it. I also think that if it did happen not all of what I want them to show would be. Instead they would either focus on the Radiant Garden stuff or the Lauriam and/or Elrena stuff. And even more likely they are just going to give us a lot of flashbacks, of the things that are really important.
There is enough story in that time period for a game but that doesn't mean they need to have a game. We can get most of the information in Reports, characters talking about the past, or flash backs caused by characters starting to remember their pasts. So a game isn't really needed. But it would be very cool. And it is kind of my dream KH game right now.
I like to imagine that Xeanort had Lea and Isa duel each other but when they did Lea left the scar on Isa the reason why I think is because every time Axel throws his Chakrams they are thrown in a x formation
I am sure you are right. The story will explain it as Isa marking himself to remember their purpose.
Remember! Lea/Axel gives himself tattoos under his eyes of teardrops. To be ironic that he won't ever shed a tear. As Nobodies don't have hearts.
I can see it going like...Isangives himself the mark shortly before losing his heart. Axel gives himself something along with Saix, as a bond of friendship. They slowly drift apart...and you know the rest.
Ive always thought saiax berserk ability was connected to the moon. Cant remember why but the master is interested in the moon too, maybe saiax really is subject x
That's actually very true. He does say "moon shine down" or whatever and then go berserk.. Hmm..
@@NextGenNovelist could be something like how our main characters draw their power from the light, at least i think thats what were lead to believe. They could be using moonlight as artificial light, and maybe other light sources as well to try and push past the current power of the light side
Ahh clever! Subject X have said the scar lol
It seems almost like the X is a curse that Kingdoms Hearts through Fate puts on its pieces through God's agents. The Master of Masters , for example, gave Luxu his name. Also, the X wearer's either are, or are intended to become Inversions of themselves. See Player versus Xehanort, Elrena versus Larxene. It is the mark of a Dark Piece.
Maybe now they will be on a Different Side of the Board.
If you want another idea, check out the anime movie, “Samurai X: Trust & Betrayal” if you want a potential route how the X might have been formed.
(I’m not using the original name of the movie for certain…reasons)
so obviously i'm late to this video lol but I think the most likely option is that Xehanort, or Xemnas, whoever you wanna call him at this point- was responsible. There's a lot of evidence that although Saix was highly ranked, he was still kept on a short leash with what he was allowed to do.
For those who didn't play 358/2 Days (Back when it was playable on the DS), Saix is the only member who never went on missions with you. Even the members from Chain of Memories, who were specifically targetted by Axel (or Saix's request) because of their higher rank, mostly. They all still went on missions in the beginning, and the other high ranks, including Luxu/Xigbar, still went on plenty of missions with you. It's a very clear choice that the only time Saix ever even leaves the castle is during KH2, when he's specifically told to by Xemnas. He gives out the missions, yet never completes any. It's absolutely intentional, and considering the X is the sigil, it's clear if Xemnas did it, it was meant to keep track of him, or maybe as a punishment to show how far they'd be willing to go if he ever betrayed them. Maybe he got off track quickly in the beginning, when they first became nobodies. He may have been reckless in wanting answers for what happened to Subject X that instead of trying carefully to get Xemnas to tell him, he made some kind of outburst, and got in trouble for it.
I know it may be unlikely for the scar to be solely because of the sigil, considering having an X in their name means they already have it, but I do think it's a possibility because of the way Saix was treated in the organization.
Great video!!
Isa and skuld ship? Over my dead leaisa body. I'd be game for a ot3 situation though
I've always been of the opinion that Axel did it to him, but what do I know...
Daaaamn that'd be messed up lmao
To be honest, I'm most curious about all of the other test subjects. You know, the ones mentioned in the reports AND all the prison cells shown in KH2FM (Xemnas walking down the spiral stairs). That is KH at its darkest (among the top at least) moments. Who knows how many people were tested upon? Some were even mentioned to have died (mental collapse, 'heart failure', people screaming so terribly even the reports mentioned they could be heard).
KH could do well to grow up with its audience. But, knowing Disney and Western censorship/rating policies...
8:14 nooo don't feed into it!! 😭 Ah whatever it's way too late anyway lol. Tbh there's been way worse ones so I can live with it 😁 If I'm not mistaken I'm sure Nomura said at one point he didn't even know why he had the scar or didn't have any answer for it so I guess he's put some more thought into it lately huh 😅 And what's going on with the Nameless Star/Strelitzia/Stella preview at the end.. Is that meant to mean separate theories for each of them or all one video? 🤔
The shipping community is an absolute dumpster fire.
@@mellemadswoestenburg1296 loool yep
It's one video about all 3 of them
Skuld and Isa forever!
I think the fanbase is way off with Skuld being Subject X. I understand Skuld's name means Future and so she should logically show up in the future. However Skuld is lacking a medium and someone with memories of her in the future. Meanwhile, thanks to Ephemer and Brain, Skuld has potential time spawn points earlier on. Plus...Xehanort's Mom does look A LOT like Skuld, another good thematic meaning for her name right there. In my opinion, Strelitzia is Subject X. Of the Key cast, she's the furthest in the future and what a convenient place to be, Quadratum. I suspect the Lifeboat could not send her to Quadratum in her condition. She needed to reform her body first, before she could disappear (This is something Master Xehanort notes specifically). Only after that is complete, could she get to Quadratum. So, stranded in Radiant Garden as her body reformed, with no memories... she was experimented on and speaks with Lea and Isa. As the experiments progress she disappears, thanks to Braig. Given who Braig really is and the goal for the True Dandelion, sending her to the real battlefield, Quadratum is a simple task. So poof, she's gone and leaves heartache in her wake. Skuld doesn't have such a convenient escape route.
I agree with you that Skuld might not be Subject X, I'm 50/50 on it. Ephemer and Brain timeline might be as far she could go, but Ventus was in the Subject X timeline (Lea and Isa were kids). It made sense that Xion has black hair because of Ventus in Sora mixed memories (Subject X has black hair). But, I'm not sure if Ventus remembers her and what "medium" he has. Ventus was kinda close to Skuld. Skuld does have 4 friends and utter the "guiding key" phrase. But, it's also true, Skuld looks more like the woman carrying Xehanort. It makes sense why MoM choose Skuld: she "carries" Xehanort, Young Xehanort met MoM (MoM knew Xehanort will "ditch the outfit") and Terra-Xehanort performed experiments on Subject X (who was later taken by Luxu/Braig). Xehanort was probably "mentioned" in the Book of Prophecy, just like how Darkness knew Ventus.
To me, Ava is also a candidate for Subject X (I'm 50/50 again). She is close to 4 foretellers and utter the "guiding key" phrase waaaay more often than Skuld. Her medium and memories is Luxu. The foretellers don't need lifeboats, they could just open some portal it seems: I wonder if the portal under basement was it (Luxu opened it maybe). No one knows Ava's hair color. Her memories is hazy, maybe because of the Keyblade War. Terra-Xehanort did experiments to get her memories, and she was last seen with Braig/Luxu (remembers her "role" maybe). She's probably young: Ephemer and Brain said she's easy to talk to, Ephemer treating Ava like "friend", and youngest foreteller next to Gula. She can't just "disappear" because MoM needs Ava to trap darkness. Maybe her role was "fulfilled" because of Terra-Xehanort experiment (Luxu's words in KH3). In the chesspiece, although blurry, I think Ava's chesspiece is there.
Strelitzia is not Subject X though. She doesn't have "black hair" or 4 friends. Strelitzia was dead before she could meet up with the other 4 Union Leaders, hence Ventus was there. Union Leaders are told not to "meet up" until specific time, so she couldn't know the other 4. Strelitzia being in Quadratum might be the one Luxu place in the lifeboat. The reason she was needed in Quadratum was probably MoM planning her to also trap Darkness. That's why MoM choose her and circled her name as the one getting a copy of Book of Prophecy (Brain said this). In the chess piece, I think the "Book of Prophecy" symbol represents: MoM or Strelitzia. I think it's her, because MoM is a scaredy cat and not a fan of Darkness. He probably bamboozled them all.
I do believe Isa is Subject X and the reason she thinks it's Skuld was because she got dissociative amnesia when she first went into Berserk Mode.