11:30 - I've seen this complex match quite recently, actually, and it was a really fun discovery (and broke down a bit of a brick wall). My dad (Polish) got a 4th cousin once removed match about 6 months ago, and it turns out that all of us match in 3 different ways (2 on one of the match's parents (4th and 6th cousin, including the brick wall), and 1 on the other - 9th cousin). 6 months later, I see this match's family, confirming that both of her parents are related. Then, there was another match, matching one of the 3 ancestors of the first match, plus matching the 1st match's paternal line (where my dad doesn't have a match). The 4th and 6th cousin ancestor on the match's side are my grandmother's paternal grandparents lines, so my grandmother's grandparents were probably 2nd to 5th cousins. Kind of confirms my suspicion that there was endogamy on my grandmother's paternal line. My grandmother's maternal line is interesting, and the largest of the matches. I know one of her great-grandparents is Lithuanian, another is likely Ukrainian (based on some sleuthing my dad's 2nd cousins did), another are Polonized Germans, with a 4th line being a mystery (looks like Polish-Rusyns). My grandfather's line is likely connected to the later two, another theory I have. Now I'm wondering if this AI will be useful for trying to solve my grandfather's mystery side. I did just get a promising match not too long ago, too (it's distant - 30cM - but has some common surnames I've seen elsewhere). I'm also wondering if I should include all matches in a column from MyHeritage, or just triangulated matches from MyHeritage.
Jennifer, Thanks for sharing! Just this week I started using the new Banyan tree to visualize the pedigree collapse on my maternal grandmother's side. I was shocked to see the "entanglement" is a lot more than I expected! I am hoping that tool can help me sort it out AND break through some brick walls on this part of my tree. I will definitely also be using AI as I work on this problem, so stay tuned! And, if you figure out anything, please let me know. As far as MyHeritage, I'd use all of the matches in the column. Best wishes!
Dana, great demonstration as always. Just wanted you to know that I was able to duplicate your technique using ChatGPT 4o "Canvas" on a Mac using Safari after doing the initial table creation via a Temporary Chat. Overall, "Canvas" worked "just OK" as several times, it would mess up modifying the table when adding another column of colored dots. I was able to get around this by copying over the last good table into another instance of "Canvas" and redoing the prompt. But I was able to produce the Excel file in a very reasonable amount of time after watching your video (~ 30 minutes).
Most of my matches between 400-90 are known matches. I have a handful that aren't identified for my dad's side. I am looking for my paternal grandparents. My paternal grandfather was orphaned in NYC after the 1888 Great Blizzard. He was 4 months old. Do you have any videos on researching only the unknown cousins from the handful that come up on one branch in the 400-90 range?
@@barbaralyn7019, What a fascinating, and sad, story! I don’t have a video specifically for that, but I would recommend watching this video: ruclips.net/video/E5cBsMCQ-eM/видео.htmlsi=BKSkKY90OGhxORwK
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Outstanding, clear content as always!
Thanks so much! 😊
11:30 - I've seen this complex match quite recently, actually, and it was a really fun discovery (and broke down a bit of a brick wall). My dad (Polish) got a 4th cousin once removed match about 6 months ago, and it turns out that all of us match in 3 different ways (2 on one of the match's parents (4th and 6th cousin, including the brick wall), and 1 on the other - 9th cousin). 6 months later, I see this match's family, confirming that both of her parents are related. Then, there was another match, matching one of the 3 ancestors of the first match, plus matching the 1st match's paternal line (where my dad doesn't have a match). The 4th and 6th cousin ancestor on the match's side are my grandmother's paternal grandparents lines, so my grandmother's grandparents were probably 2nd to 5th cousins.
Kind of confirms my suspicion that there was endogamy on my grandmother's paternal line. My grandmother's maternal line is interesting, and the largest of the matches. I know one of her great-grandparents is Lithuanian, another is likely Ukrainian (based on some sleuthing my dad's 2nd cousins did), another are Polonized Germans, with a 4th line being a mystery (looks like Polish-Rusyns). My grandfather's line is likely connected to the later two, another theory I have.
Now I'm wondering if this AI will be useful for trying to solve my grandfather's mystery side. I did just get a promising match not too long ago, too (it's distant - 30cM - but has some common surnames I've seen elsewhere). I'm also wondering if I should include all matches in a column from MyHeritage, or just triangulated matches from MyHeritage.
Jennifer, Thanks for sharing!
Just this week I started using the new Banyan tree to visualize the pedigree collapse on my maternal grandmother's side. I was shocked to see the "entanglement" is a lot more than I expected! I am hoping that tool can help me sort it out AND break through some brick walls on this part of my tree.
I will definitely also be using AI as I work on this problem, so stay tuned! And, if you figure out anything, please let me know.
As far as MyHeritage, I'd use all of the matches in the column.
Best wishes!
Dana, great demonstration as always. Just wanted you to know that I was able to duplicate your technique using ChatGPT 4o "Canvas" on a Mac using Safari after doing the initial table creation via a Temporary Chat. Overall, "Canvas" worked "just OK" as several times, it would mess up modifying the table when adding another column of colored dots. I was able to get around this by copying over the last good table into another instance of "Canvas" and redoing the prompt. But I was able to produce the Excel file in a very reasonable amount of time after watching your video (~ 30 minutes).
@@MarkFlaherty-h3v, Thanks for sharing! I’ll have to give Canvas a try, too. I’ve primarily been using Claude & Artifacts for several months.
Most of my matches between 400-90 are known matches. I have a handful that aren't identified for my dad's side. I am looking for my paternal grandparents. My paternal grandfather was orphaned in NYC after the 1888 Great Blizzard. He was 4 months old. Do you have any videos on researching only the unknown cousins from the handful that come up on one branch in the 400-90 range?
@@barbaralyn7019, What a fascinating, and sad, story! I don’t have a video specifically for that, but I would recommend watching this video: ruclips.net/video/E5cBsMCQ-eM/видео.htmlsi=BKSkKY90OGhxORwK
Could the multi clusters be half families?
@@marystilwell9312, In this case that isn’t the issue. But, yes, if you get “extra” clusters these could be half families.
Totally confused
You might try this video if you want to learn more about the Leeds Method: ruclips.net/video/zMDbU72_-Ms/видео.htmlsi=C9FuVI7PFvaM_lcX