@@MrCalalfhe’s talking about getting the currency to buy skins from the store with 600 less and the next battlepass with 600 less. If u keep the lattice from each season then it will be 5 dollars for each battlepass pretty much.
@@Jhyrkan032 Yeah i recognized that right after i made that comment haha. So your options are Save the Lattice for two seasons to fully buy the BP come season 3 Buy the next BP for 60% off Convert the 600 Lattice to Units for 1200 units to use in the shop I love the options here
As long as the corporate executives leave the community dev team to their own devices, we should be fine...NetEase higher ups are some of the most despicable gremlins in the industry.
It's actually like going to date someone you know versus getting to know someone you don't. Everybody knows marvel and all their creations but OverWatch has had to prove themselves with characters they themselves created.
This game is only so generous because they had to pull in a player base. As long as OW (and to a lesser extent CoD, Apex and what other games players came from) tries to compete, then both games will fight for the consumer. If there's no competition, then there's little reason for a company to do things for the consumer.
@@soporific9212well we are completely f***** if that is the case.... Because I was a marvel future fight veteran that spent $1,000 on that mobile mobile game over probably a 7-year span. That game is perfectly engineered to squeeze my teats for money.
Yo they 100% had it already you're so right, earlier on in the release there was a bug that showed your rank as celestial randomly after winning/losing a game in GM
They don’t even speak english as their first language and still communicated more in one video than overwatch has with us since OW2 release Edit: this wasn’t meant to be taken that serious… lets all just calm down😅
Actions speak louder than words and the OW team leaving widow unchanged for months is all they needed to do to tell us how they feel about us. So grateful rivals is out and OW is forced to evolve or die, it’s about time
I kinda prefer if they just spoke in chinese and dubbed over in post like how nintendo etx do it. its hard to look passionate when youre trying to pronounce everything correctly.
wolverine was only "weak" because no one knew what he was made for in the very beginning, now people understand his role and hes super strong in that specific role
You could make this argument for other characters in the roster, like Storm. The game is new so of course everyone is suffering from skill issues. That's why I'm surprised the devs are implementing buffs and nerfs so early.
@GameGod77 The Thing with Storm is why play her when you can play Iron Man and get a better experience. Her movement is slow and damage is underwhelming. Her Goddess Boost doesn't do enough to be impactful and her Ultimate leaves her poorly positioned when it's finishes. She needed a buff bad.
Wolverine in Grandmaster plus is ban worthy on god. Not even lying. As a tank GM I thank they heavenly stars when I successfully convince my team to ban him. He is that busted
Going from Overwatch to a dev team that is putting in this much effort is a game changer. I don’t think I’ve ever heard blizzard say they were anxious about how something will be received. They’ve been spitting in our faces for years.
So the devs need to specifically say “they are anxious about how something will be received?” For you to think they are?? What do you think the ENTIRE purpose of test events for new hero’s is?? You think a game that isn’t “anxious about how a hero will be received” would give an extended weekend to test the hero?? I swear rivals could touch grass and people would call it the best innovation ever
@ not specifically that phrase, but it’s been many years since the Overwatch team has done anything to show us they are passionate or care about the game. If I had to be real, the last time the Overwatch team felt passionate is when they first announced they were working on Overwatch 2. Since then it’s been corporate crap and having their staff gutted and canceling feature releases.
Bruh, OW2 can have a new hero with little to no skin, aka Blizz don't even monetize that hero, just a straight up new and fun hero to play with, and ppl like you'd still complain about how the devs don't care.
@@lamsauce4266Well no stuff. If they didn’t add any new characters not many people would come back to play the game. That doesn’t show passion as that’s more of requirement to keep interests in the game.
@@benjamingiddens6758 I mean a regular season will still have the 10 skin battle pass, 2 heroes, and a map. So a full year of marvel rivals is like, the entire lifespan of overwatch 2's support.
It's so nice to see devs that not only have common sense but also care about the players and their experiences. With this level of commitment and love for the game, I really do see a bright and long future for this game.
black panther is bugged strange is bugged fps is bugged fps is bugging damage dealt fps is bugging ping people are still crashing (not me) they were banning people for their own connection issues from joining lobbies. I love this game because it's fun but let's not glaze this game. if this was any other game people would be losing their minds woth how cooked it is. let's not pretend the devs care about the player base haha. also the absurd censorship is outrages. cant even tyope 1989 straight up pretending that year didn't exist.
@1refi First off, yes it has some issues and I'm sure they'll work on fixing them but you need to remember that this game is still brand new. If you or anyone else doesn't have the patience to wait for these these issues to be resolved then I'm sure there's plenty of other fun and exciting games out there.
I actually love that they speak about wolverine and storm as characters that work with just certain comps, i love the concept of characters who dominate only in certain teams
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 That's perfect valid feedback, having a bunch of heroes you can only use in very niche situations is kinda lame. Don't forget, the biggest appeal of this game for most people is to get to play as super hero they grew up with.
Tbf they also have tons of talent to pull from, like a billion people isn’t smth to scoff it. Still though props to them for making things work so well
These are the only 2 games I have touched in the past month. They are showing everyone how its done. Hopefully, this lights a fire underneath the butts of every dev and company in this industry.
This was a mic drop moment. like, the amount of content is one thing, but having the data be available to see by rank is a whole other level of awesome.
Coming from League of Legends I'm used to multiple websites that track all the data in real time and can be sorted by rank, champion, or anything else. Is that not a thing with overwatch?
I think it would be really cool for you to make a video reading each characters lore. Would be a lot of effort so i understand if you don’t want to but would definitely be something I would watch.
So technically speaking, each BP, starting from your first BP will technically be like 5 dollars thereafter as the cost is essentially half with the earnable lattice in the BP. Even if you end up paying full price every time, the cadence is still like less than a retail game's cost, which is nice.
Honestly if it's the only purchase I'll be making - it's generous. Modern MMOs ask more out of players for each month of sub time and this game doesn't have expansions. If the game is good and fun - no one will truly mind this.
I think they're already trying to collaborate with the mobile marvel games as well, as to what it might be for rivals itself I'm not sure, but it should be fun regardless
They just said that it will be 4 total for season 1. 2 at the beginning and the other 2 after 5 or 6 weeks. What I'm curious about is how many maps theirs going to be in total. They said 3 in the first half. Is their going to be another 3 maps in the 2nd?
@@kylewood4488-b9r They said there would be 2 maps in the first half: the Sanctum Sanctorum as the map for the arcade gamemode Doom Match, and Empire of Eternal Night: Midtown as a Convoy (Payload) map. The 3rd map, Empire of Eternal Night: Central Park will likely be released in the second half. This probably means 1 new map per season after S1?
@@kylewood4488-b9r From what I understood with the way they worded it, we get 1 new map for the first half and when we get the other 2 heroes we're getting the other 2 maps as well.
It's kind of ridiculous how much more competent the Marvel Rivals Devs are right out the gate than the Overwatch Devs who have been at this like a decade.
to be fair, Overwatch has had a revolving door of devs coming and going so it hasn't been the same guys working on it for a decade, but this is still fire
I love that Wolverine has Red Claws. For anyone that doesn't know it's definitely a reference to the Muramasa Blade. It's a Katana the X-men keep to be able to kill Wolverine in case he goes completely berserk. If he does he'll kill anyone he sees friend of foe. So the Blade makes anything cut by it immune to Healing Factors. So it shuts off Wolverines Healing and any mortal wound will actually kill him. The tricky thing about it is if Wolverine had Actual Red Claws made out of the same Metal if he pops his claws out it would have to naturally heal over a week and he would slowly bleed from it constantly.
im pretty sure its just a reference to when he uses his healing factor to super heat his claws, like they did in some of the recent comics, but thats a good take as well
@lancehiggins828 Well his claws superheated look more like Molten Metal. This is specifically crimson. So I believe it's more towards the Muramasa Blade. Side note I actually hope they add Sabertooth at some point.
Also fun fact that's relevant to this season since it's Dracula. Wolverine actually infiltrated Dracula's Vampire fortress and they negated his healing factor so he could become a vampire. Then when Dracula was about to kill members of his team they turned his healing factor back on and in a few seconds it cured his vampirism and he killed a bunch of the vampires and saved his teammates.
They're already obnoxious to play against without mirroring and now this.. when I get diamond, I'm gonna permaban them since I'm on console lol they're in every match
@@nailinthefashioncorrect me if I’m wrong since I haven’t played much especially during this Christmas period due to traveling, but doesn’t cloak already have a gigantic aoe suzu which make character invincible? That in of itself seems extremely strong to me
10:10 "midtown" is a term for a region of manhattan AKA "New York City" its not copying a game its just both based on "midtown NYC" which is where the fantastic 4 avengers and you know pretty much everyone is from in marvel and the theme of the whole season. just as central park is a location in NYC so is midtown
To get a little more explicit for those not in a city. In larger cities, you get subdivided into smaller regions and neighborhoods. Regions are larger and further divided into neighborhoods, which confusingly can share the same name as the region. The specifics of boundaries aren't always unanimous, which can make it even more confusing. These neighborhoods are often the size of a town in the suburbs. For example, in Philly we have regions (West, Center City, South Philly, North, Northwest, Northeast, Far Northeast, etc.) and Northeast Philly includes neighborhoods like Norris Square, Olde Kensington (debated if it even exists lol), Fishtown, NoLibs, and Port Richmond. Some of these neighborhoods also get grouped into other regions, like River Wards. So, in this case, Midtown is a region in New York City. It's arguably one of the business centers of the world and is extremely well known. This is why a lot of comics, movies, and TV Shows reference it in some sense. The Fantastic Four HQ is in the center of Midtown near Grand Central.
"Are they gonna release two characters every season", Well there are two dooms so I can see them releasing a dps and tank doom at once in a big celebration.
@2:45 i think they’d prefer you get a quicker game then spend 5-6 minutes waiting for a game with the right map to open up. i don’t mind it and will probably sort it self out when there’s more maps to pick from anyway
the wait time really wouldn’t be that long, we have more than enough players. we literally wait like less than 20 seconds every game, at all times. in most ranks. the game would just disable it if it makes the queue take too long
@@demifolk8940these are peak numbers tho. Once the player base moves onto the next new shiny thing 5-6 minutes is like off peak time of day Overwatch wait times Personally I don't mind watching tiktok compilations and lifting weights btwn matches but I can also cope with usually having 3-5 dps lol
I’m not sure about that. I would expect the map to be chosen after the players are already chosen. It wouldn’t make sense to ignore the similarly ranked player entry into a lobby simply because the lobby is in a pool for a specific map and the other player is in a different pool.
@ we are getting those times because we get repetitive maps tho , i’m on sydney’s servers ps5 and my times are around 1-2 mins in high diamond , i don’t think i’d be getting those times if it had the overwatch system of literally making you play every map before you start the cycle again. id play kings row and then not see it for days when i was grinding comp
To be fair on the midtown map thing, that’s actually what the area of the city is called. If you’re on the phone in that part of manhattan and the person on the other end asks where you are “midtown” is a top option.
I love how as they reveal the pick and win rates hes like omg and then again for the streamer mode where hes frozen for seconds. Its so nice to see him so happy again.
The Dr Strange one had a ton of cool lore about what’s happening with Dracula and him lost in the astral realm. Wolverine having a drink with Magneto at a bar in Krakoa was also fucking sick
It makes sense they are making a new york city map, ive been waiting especially because of the voiceline of doctor strange when spider man dies in a match
2:14 considering how many heroes and villains there are in the marvel universes, id say it's not only possible, but they could probably add *four** characters per season for the next 100 seasons, and still only scratch the surface
@Astral_Incarnate yes you are correct, but compared to overwatch, and game that has no previous lore, with Marvel Rivals they have so much IP they can pick from, instead of having to fully design a character they can go "oh, what would the moveset for this pre existing character, thus removing an entire aspect of design that Overwatch had to do, so they probably won't be able to keep this pace, but a character a season is possible, and my personal guess is it'll be a character or group (such as with them doing the fantastic 4 all at once
@@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman I believe "creating" a character, and "using" a pre-existing character are very different procedures. Like @flowergirl1009 said, marvel has a massive amount of heroes that already have abilities. While also using pre-existing art, concepts, and models, it is much easier to adapt that material in-game. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
All of this sounds amazing and I’m super excited but I just listened to the podcast you were on a couple days ago with svb and necros and I can’t remember the other two names and when you guys talked about the longevity of the game, one thing that came to mind for me was to focus on team ups in upcoming seasons (which I don’t think they talk about for this season) and not just the team ups for the new characters for each season but maybe add in new team ups for old characters to give those one tricks something new with the game and I think adding something new to the existing content versus simply just adding more content will really help with the longevity of the game and help the new seasons feel impactful for everyone
Deciding to do the entire presentation in English instead of using a translator really communicates the message that they’re putting their maximum effort into this game. Really looking forward to Season 1
@@philipb.1950why would banning matter just ban who you personally dislike playing against or who counters your team instead of targeting one skilled player maybe
@@Finn-wc8nq Because there are people who are OTPs that will have to play a character they have little experience playing essentially throwing a match in higher elos
I love the thought of flats making a video where he reads all the lore on every characters page, like a 2 hours video where he reads them in the background while I play a relaxing game sound so nice!
@12:02 yes Cap is slept on. he is very strong when he's played like a dive character. He can also distract the enemy backline and stall with his shield for your team to regroup.
Exactly! But I kinda like that about him. People constantly underestimate Cap in the comics and movies. So when he actually goes out there and fights, he ends up surprising everyone. I feel that way as a Cap main! Enemies either ignore us, and we get to dive their backline, or they are forced to look at us diving. And since we're a tank, we can take the hits that would take out a squishier diver when jumping the enemy backline.
2:15, "There's no way they can keep up with this pace"? Marvel has upwards of 80 THOUSAND + characters, and is continuously added to on a regular basis by comic creators and writers. At this pace, adding 4 characters every couple months, they could keep this pace going for YEARS and never run out.
I think he means it more in terms of the developers being able to consistently create 4 characters with different move sets with each drop, yeah marvel has decades worth of characters but you can only implement them into the game so fast
How could you not click the like on the dev talk video, Flats!? Also submitting my vote for you to read the character lore! It will be exciting because it's fresh to you too!
6:15 You would get enough currency back to buy the next pass because you can convert units into lattice meaning you will get 1200 credits from the battle pass, or thats how I understand it at least.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can covert units to lattice. You can convert lattice to units but not vice versa. It would still be enough to buy the next pass because this pass will give u 600 and the next pass will give u another 600.
Some people say Marvel Rivals is copying Overwatch ... I say they're improving it ... if Blizz had listened to the community in the many years leading up to OW2 the same as NetEase has done in the ONE month it's been released publicly then Overwatch would be a completely different game.
To answer your question at 4:40 , I would love to have the lore read to me. I often put on your vids when I sleep as background noise. And who doesn't love a good bedtime story. lol
TLDR; MRs: 4 new heroes, 3 new maps, 1 new gamemode, 1 new rank, streamer mode, graphics optamization OW2: 1 new hero (.................................................................................................................................................)
I would love to see you reading the lore for Rivals. I am dyslexic, and reading is always a struggle. Your videos reading the Overwatch patch notes have been a godsend for years, thank you!
7:15 They’re called the “First Family” because they were Marvel’s first really prominent superhero team (particularly in the Stan Lee era) and also they’re all really close-knit or literally related. Invisible Woman and Human Torch are siblings, while she and Mr. Fantastic are married (and eventually have kids in the comics). Mr. Fantastic and The Thing are really good friends too, like way before the Fantastic Four.
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_ZYe but I'd assume somebody with your skill level but on another healer is likely able to accomplish much more with Luna Snow or Mantis
Im 100% down for you to read through the lore pages of the characters and the comic pages for the season! I think it would a fun time for the chat to learn a lot more about the characters! Even if you chose just to read a few of them, like your favorites, I think chat and youtube will enjoy it either way. I enjoy your content no matter what!
One thing I absolutely love about this game is the destructible walls and changing maps, and I love that they're playing into it. it really helps with making the game not feel repetitive even if you have played the same map 100 times.
I would definitely enjoy videos of you reading all of the individual character lore! Probably for different reasons from most though. I’m in the minority of viewers who have never played Marvel Rivals, because I don’t own any device that is capable of downloading it. So for the past month, I’ve spent most of my free time enjoying the game through RUclipsrs/Streamers like you! I can’t read those lore comics myself, despite being a huge Marvel fan, so I would definitely enjoy watching story videos!
Heres the thing, the main advantage that they have being inder the marvel umbrella isnt the brand but the decades worth of content that it has accumalated. So many heroes and villians to explore. They showed they can even make fringe characters like squirrel girl and jeff the shark popular.
The good thing about characters in marval rivals is that all the visual concepting is already done. That phase is not a small part of character development, so I wouldnt be surprised to see them pump out characters at a faster rate than games who have to go through the concept phase.
I think the reason they'll be able to keep up multiple character launches per season is simply the fact that it's mostly established characters (this is in no way me saying that'll be easy because there are other factors involved in the game making process but) they'll have a much easier time because a lot of marvel heroes have powers and abilities that can be turned into really fun kits unlike overwatch where they need to start from the ground up everytime
It also really cuts down on the art design of having to abstract a good design from nothing. Having a base and just being able to customize it a little (ala wolverine) saves so much time on creative side and gives the devs a chance to create models and textures much sooner
Santa is never as cool as Marvel Rivals Devs. these people literally made me sound like a freaking squeaker again with the amount of hype they're giving me.
Do yall think they would actually keep this up, releasing multiple heros at once or how much of this is actually just content that was almost ready but didn't finish at release?? Or is it that most characters are pre-existing from the comics so it cuts a lot of work from hero design and some abilities?
It's gonna go down to 2 characters per season 1 per half. A lot of characters were leaked, though they were very undeveloped its gonna keep them for a while. Most of the characters are comic characters so there's that too.
I think that a regular season will have 2 heros (1 the start and 1 mid season). Basically, one hero every 6 weeks and one map every 12 (?). At least that's what I understood.
Probably a better pace like this over trying to release a lot like 8 or something. They'll be able to keep the pace, what my guess is that the leaked characters which was like..around 4+ more? Will be for season 2 and their abilities are already done, some already have models so their focusing on the models then working on season 3. Especially if their is leaks already on them they probably already have a roadmap on planning at least a year ahead. If you look at the maps their usually the same stages except different modes of it(Which I dont mind it at all)
So you can either save your lattice two seasons from now to buy the battle pass come season 3 , get about 60% off the next season’s BP, or convert the lattice to get 1200 units for the shop. I love the options here and this sounds like a good compromise to me. Can I just say how much I love how they handled monetizion in the game. Funneling the cost of the skins through units was the best decision they could’ve made.
People really like to ignore the recommended combos that the devs put in the hero tabs, but they know what they are doing with their characters and those suggested combos are a great place to start when learning a character
Vampire Hunter Wolverine will probably be the rawest shit I'll see all year.
Best part is Hugh Jackman played van helsing and wolverine. The devs totally did this on purpose.
@@blitzenspeedster8150 its almost like they actually consume the content they are making the game based on. Crazy.
@@Kingkongmental no reason to be such a smartass.
@@Kingkongmental wierd vibes here. stay classy bro
@@Kingkongmental they're ex overwatch players
To break down the battle pass, if you complete it, you get enough for a 33% discount off a skin bundle and over 50% off the next battle pass.
Wait what, where is this stated?
@@MrCalalfIt's in the video talking about how many blue units and the yellow currency you're getting back for completing the BP
@@MrCalalfhe’s talking about getting the currency to buy skins from the store with 600 less and the next battlepass with 600 less. If u keep the lattice from each season then it will be 5 dollars for each battlepass pretty much.
@@Jhyrkan032 Yeah i recognized that right after i made that comment haha.
So your options are
Save the Lattice for two seasons to fully buy the BP come season 3
Buy the next BP for 60% off
Convert the 600 Lattice to Units for 1200 units to use in the shop
I love the options here
To break down anything you’ll need flats to stand on it
Their effort to speak English is awesome to see
It’s slowly improving from last time so they are genuinely taking their time To speak English
IKR? I would watch it in any language tho, they are killing it.
nice i guess...though i dont think anyone would complain if they just subtitled it..
Absolutely
The bland buzzwordy corpo speak is lame in any language in my opinion, but if someone likes it then power to them
This feels like when you get out of a toxic relationship and into a healthy one. Like damn they are actually on our side.
As long as the corporate executives leave the community dev team to their own devices, we should be fine...NetEase higher ups are some of the most despicable gremlins in the industry.
It's actually like going to date someone you know versus getting to know someone you don't. Everybody knows marvel and all their creations but OverWatch has had to prove themselves with characters they themselves created.
And that new significant others like what the f*** why are your expectations so low?😢
This game is only so generous because they had to pull in a player base. As long as OW (and to a lesser extent CoD, Apex and what other games players came from) tries to compete, then both games will fight for the consumer. If there's no competition, then there's little reason for a company to do things for the consumer.
@@soporific9212well we are completely f***** if that is the case.... Because I was a marvel future fight veteran that spent $1,000 on that mobile mobile game over probably a 7-year span. That game is perfectly engineered to squeeze my teats for money.
4:50 yes please Flats would make a series one video per character
110% yes
:3 🎉
would def watch all of em lmao
dont know if each lore reaches the 8 minutes mark, but this is a pretty good series idea
grandpa Flats read us a story
They're actually so smart to wait to add the new rank since it was a shorter season, they def had that the whole time
They weren't expecting the player base to be this big (neither was i)
Yo they 100% had it already you're so right, earlier on in the release there was a bug that showed your rank as celestial randomly after winning/losing a game in GM
They don’t even speak english as their first language and still communicated more in one video than overwatch has with us since OW2 release
Edit: this wasn’t meant to be taken that serious… lets all just calm down😅
Damn
wrong
Actions speak louder than words and the OW team leaving widow unchanged for months is all they needed to do to tell us how they feel about us. So grateful rivals is out and OW is forced to evolve or die, it’s about time
I kinda prefer if they just spoke in chinese and dubbed over in post like how nintendo etx do it. its hard to look passionate when youre trying to pronounce everything correctly.
@f but that’s exactly how passionate they are, they’re learning more and more English just to share the game with everyone
wolverine was only "weak" because no one knew what he was made for in the very beginning, now people understand his role and hes super strong in that specific role
Its interesting seeing the meta form in real time.
The specific role for him is being thrown by hulk to catch flies like iron man or storm for me 😂
You could make this argument for other characters in the roster, like Storm. The game is new so of course everyone is suffering from skill issues.
That's why I'm surprised the devs are implementing buffs and nerfs so early.
@GameGod77 The Thing with Storm is why play her when you can play Iron Man and get a better experience. Her movement is slow and damage is underwhelming. Her Goddess Boost doesn't do enough to be impactful and her Ultimate leaves her poorly positioned when it's finishes. She needed a buff bad.
Wolverine in Grandmaster plus is ban worthy on god. Not even lying. As a tank GM I thank they heavenly stars when I successfully convince my team to ban him. He is that busted
Going from Overwatch to a dev team that is putting in this much effort is a game changer. I don’t think I’ve ever heard blizzard say they were anxious about how something will be received. They’ve been spitting in our faces for years.
So the devs need to specifically say “they are anxious about how something will be received?” For you to think they are??
What do you think the ENTIRE purpose of test events for new hero’s is?? You think a game that isn’t “anxious about how a hero will be received” would give an extended weekend to test the hero??
I swear rivals could touch grass and people would call it the best innovation ever
@ not specifically that phrase, but it’s been many years since the Overwatch team has done anything to show us they are passionate or care about the game. If I had to be real, the last time the Overwatch team felt passionate is when they first announced they were working on Overwatch 2. Since then it’s been corporate crap and having their staff gutted and canceling feature releases.
@@brycenb2994No, the free weekend testing was probably implemented to artificially boost player numbers
Bruh, OW2 can have a new hero with little to no skin, aka Blizz don't even monetize that hero, just a straight up new and fun hero to play with, and ppl like you'd still complain about how the devs don't care.
@@lamsauce4266Well no stuff. If they didn’t add any new characters not many people would come back to play the game. That doesn’t show passion as that’s more of requirement to keep interests in the game.
Unironically more content in 2 months than OW in over a year. Also 10 skins for 10 bucks, Blizz could never.
Tbf rivals has some expensive skins too
@@Sol1d_uhhh how else are the gonna fund the free to play game ?
It's like $3 since you're getting 660 lattice back
to be totally fair, it's not like they made this content in two months. this is pretty much launch content they held back on and polished for longer.
@@benjamingiddens6758 I mean a regular season will still have the 10 skin battle pass, 2 heroes, and a map. So a full year of marvel rivals is like, the entire lifespan of overwatch 2's support.
It's so nice to see devs that not only have common sense but also care about the players and their experiences. With this level of commitment and love for the game, I really do see a bright and long future for this game.
black panther is bugged
strange is bugged
fps is bugged
fps is bugging damage dealt
fps is bugging ping
people are still crashing (not me)
they were banning people for their own connection issues from joining lobbies.
I love this game because it's fun but let's not glaze this game.
if this was any other game people would be losing their minds woth how cooked it is.
let's not pretend the devs care about the player base haha.
also the absurd censorship is outrages. cant even tyope 1989 straight up pretending that year didn't exist.
@1refi First off, yes it has some issues and I'm sure they'll work on fixing them but you need to remember that this game is still brand new. If you or anyone else doesn't have the patience to wait for these these issues to be resolved then I'm sure there's plenty of other fun and exciting games out there.
@@1refirage bait used to be believable
@unrealc_ bro what are you talking about used to be believable all of what he said is literally true lmao
@@1refi they are working on it bro, give them time
I actually love that they speak about wolverine and storm as characters that work with just certain comps, i love the concept of characters who dominate only in certain teams
Sounds great until you play solo.
@@robnoel9306If it’s that unbearable, don’t play it
@@robnoel9306if you're trying to play Storm solo then you're just dumb.
@@robnoel9306 literally every comp game lmao
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738
That's perfect valid feedback, having a bunch of heroes you can only use in very niche situations is kinda lame.
Don't forget, the biggest appeal of this game for most people is to get to play as super hero they grew up with.
Black Myth Wukong and Marvel Rivals revealed China has some crazy ass devs.
Tbf they also have tons of talent to pull from, like a billion people isn’t smth to scoff it. Still though props to them for making things work so well
For sure and we stuck with the same slop over n over I feel like there’s some crazy devs out there just not well known n overshadowed
crazy what you can achieve with slave labour wages
These are the only 2 games I have touched in the past month. They are showing everyone how its done. Hopefully, this lights a fire underneath the butts of every dev and company in this industry.
Eastern devs in general
This was a mic drop moment. like, the amount of content is one thing, but having the data be available to see by rank is a whole other level of awesome.
Coming from League of Legends I'm used to multiple websites that track all the data in real time and can be sorted by rank, champion, or anything else. Is that not a thing with overwatch?
@@hiurroit's not really a thing for most games afaik, esp not from the devs themselves
Yes flats lore bedtime stories please 🧛🏻
Sameeeeee
haha content for days imo
Lol
Unironically flat's voice is pretty comforting I've already seen this video and I'm rewatching it with him just to see what he thought about it
I think it would be really cool for you to make a video reading each characters lore. Would be a lot of effort so i understand if you don’t want to but would definitely be something I would watch.
@@jacobtizano3855 yes we second this
I feel like his commentary style where he jumps in to offer extra info is perfect for those videos
Same id listen in the background while doing everything
Yeah would make for some great Background listening
Holy fuck they have cooked beyond belief..
except for the rank changes
@@IPaDMaN28372 nah the additional rank is fine and the 7 division down every season is fine.
Whats wrong with the new rank?@@IPaDMaN28372
@@IPaDMaN28372 bro its deserved, a lot of GM players are inflated and the skill gap is huge in that tier
@@IPaDMaN28372 Doesn't every game reset ranks every season
So technically speaking, each BP, starting from your first BP will technically be like 5 dollars thereafter as the cost is essentially half with the earnable lattice in the BP. Even if you end up paying full price every time, the cadence is still like less than a retail game's cost, which is nice.
Yeah.
Like even 4 full price bps a year would come out to like 40 bucks a year. People pay more than that for the yearly fifa afaik
Yup so 5$ every 3 months to support the game giving you hours of fun , is very fair to me. You’re getting 9-10 skins with emotes etc
Honestly if it's the only purchase I'll be making - it's generous. Modern MMOs ask more out of players for each month of sub time and this game doesn't have expansions. If the game is good and fun - no one will truly mind this.
"there is no way they can keep this pace"
flats... its the marvel multiverse... and dont forget collabs xD
They Literally have infinite Characters they can make Blades Daughter A playable character if they want to
True tho. Imagine Capcom characters from when they did Marvel vs Capcom
they did say this season had double the normal content because they wanted to release the fantastic 4 together
I think they're already trying to collaborate with the mobile marvel games as well, as to what it might be for rivals itself I'm not sure, but it should be fun regardless
@@johng1z23 No thank you, we dont need more messy crossover collab games...
2 heroes and 1 map per season would still be a lot of stuff compared to other similar games, damm...
hopefully its 4, 2 at the start and 2 mid season.
@@pegetathey just explained that they did 4 to start off the season and each season going forward would be 2. It’s in the literal video
They just said that it will be 4 total for season 1. 2 at the beginning and the other 2 after 5 or 6 weeks. What I'm curious about is how many maps theirs going to be in total. They said 3 in the first half. Is their going to be another 3 maps in the 2nd?
@@kylewood4488-b9r They said there would be 2 maps in the first half: the Sanctum Sanctorum as the map for the arcade gamemode Doom Match, and Empire of Eternal Night: Midtown as a Convoy (Payload) map. The 3rd map, Empire of Eternal Night: Central Park will likely be released in the second half. This probably means 1 new map per season after S1?
@@kylewood4488-b9r From what I understood with the way they worded it, we get 1 new map for the first half and when we get the other 2 heroes we're getting the other 2 maps as well.
It's kind of ridiculous how much more competent the Marvel Rivals Devs are right out the gate than the Overwatch Devs who have been at this like a decade.
to be fair, Overwatch has had a revolving door of devs coming and going so it hasn't been the same guys working on it for a decade, but this is still fire
Story time with Flats sounds like a fantastic video to watch! I love the lore and having someone read it all sounds fun.
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@@generalpacman6414 We’re Rich!
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I love that Wolverine has Red Claws.
For anyone that doesn't know it's definitely a reference to the Muramasa Blade. It's a Katana the X-men keep to be able to kill Wolverine in case he goes completely berserk. If he does he'll kill anyone he sees friend of foe. So the Blade makes anything cut by it immune to Healing Factors. So it shuts off Wolverines Healing and any mortal wound will actually kill him. The tricky thing about it is if Wolverine had Actual Red Claws made out of the same Metal if he pops his claws out it would have to naturally heal over a week and he would slowly bleed from it constantly.
im pretty sure its just a reference to when he uses his healing factor to super heat his claws, like they did in some of the recent comics, but thats a good take as well
@lancehiggins828 Well his claws superheated look more like Molten Metal. This is specifically crimson. So I believe it's more towards the Muramasa Blade. Side note I actually hope they add Sabertooth at some point.
@@jakebrodowski9you're probably right bc he's skin lore is hunter of immortal vampires.
@@jokerpandroidc9807 That makes perfect sense too.
Also fun fact that's relevant to this season since it's Dracula. Wolverine actually infiltrated Dracula's Vampire fortress and they negated his healing factor so he could become a vampire. Then when Dracula was about to kill members of his team they turned his healing factor back on and in a few seconds it cured his vampirism and he killed a bunch of the vampires and saved his teammates.
i like how he still looks over like he's talking to chat even when he's not live lmfao
That's because these are taken from his streams, he is live when these happen
@@atk237i think you may have been grown in a lab.. HE JUST ENDED STREAM LMAO
@@atk237 yea like an hour after he ended stream this news dropped so he wasn't live lol
My Cloak and Dagger is getting buffed? Well shit...
They're already obnoxious to play against without mirroring and now this.. when I get diamond, I'm gonna permaban them since I'm on console lol they're in every match
@@nailinthefashioncorrect me if I’m wrong since I haven’t played much especially during this Christmas period due to traveling, but doesn’t cloak already have a gigantic aoe suzu which make character invincible? That in of itself seems extremely strong to me
Our Cloak and Dagger*
As a Cloak & Dagger main, this made me shead a tear of joy.
i hope cooldowns are released, i feel like the cooldown pauses whenever i switch 😭
10:10 "midtown" is a term for a region of manhattan AKA "New York City" its not copying a game its just both based on "midtown NYC" which is where the fantastic 4 avengers and you know pretty much everyone is from in marvel and the theme of the whole season. just as central park is a location in NYC so is midtown
To get a little more explicit for those not in a city. In larger cities, you get subdivided into smaller regions and neighborhoods. Regions are larger and further divided into neighborhoods, which confusingly can share the same name as the region. The specifics of boundaries aren't always unanimous, which can make it even more confusing. These neighborhoods are often the size of a town in the suburbs.
For example, in Philly we have regions (West, Center City, South Philly, North, Northwest, Northeast, Far Northeast, etc.) and Northeast Philly includes neighborhoods like Norris Square, Olde Kensington (debated if it even exists lol), Fishtown, NoLibs, and Port Richmond. Some of these neighborhoods also get grouped into other regions, like River Wards.
So, in this case, Midtown is a region in New York City. It's arguably one of the business centers of the world and is extremely well known. This is why a lot of comics, movies, and TV Shows reference it in some sense. The Fantastic Four HQ is in the center of Midtown near Grand Central.
Came here just for this lmao. Like “omg it’s called midtown, they must be copying overwatch”.
"Are they gonna release two characters every season", Well there are two dooms so I can see them releasing a dps and tank doom at once in a big celebration.
dr and mf?
@@olen563 they gonna fight for the only beer left
@2:45 i think they’d prefer you get a quicker game then spend 5-6 minutes waiting for a game with the right map to open up. i don’t mind it and will probably sort it self out when there’s more maps to pick from anyway
the wait time really wouldn’t be that long, we have more than enough players. we literally wait like less than 20 seconds every game, at all times. in most ranks. the game would just disable it if it makes the queue take too long
@@demifolk8940these are peak numbers tho. Once the player base moves onto the next new shiny thing 5-6 minutes is like off peak time of day Overwatch wait times
Personally I don't mind watching tiktok compilations and lifting weights btwn matches but I can also cope with usually having 3-5 dps lol
I’m not sure about that. I would expect the map to be chosen after the players are already chosen. It wouldn’t make sense to ignore the similarly ranked player entry into a lobby simply because the lobby is in a pool for a specific map and the other player is in a different pool.
@ we are getting those times because we get repetitive maps tho , i’m on sydney’s servers ps5 and my times are around 1-2 mins in high diamond , i don’t think i’d be getting those times if it had the overwatch system of literally making you play every map before you start the cycle again. id play kings row and then not see it for days when i was grinding comp
To be fair on the midtown map thing, that’s actually what the area of the city is called. If you’re on the phone in that part of manhattan and the person on the other end asks where you are “midtown” is a top option.
A lore reading would be fun
@@GAMINGBOI28 would be awesome
It makes me so happy to see flats play a game where the developers actually put effort into making a game better with content changes
I love how as they reveal the pick and win rates hes like omg and then again for the streamer mode where hes frozen for seconds. Its so nice to see him so happy again.
Yes pls. Do it Flats. I want to see your impressions of the comic book characters. Just put your energy into it and it'll be entertaining. Always.
Lore reading video would be awesome. I'm halfway though the hero backgrounds and they give some very nice context to the maps.
The Dr Strange one had a ton of cool lore about what’s happening with Dracula and him lost in the astral realm. Wolverine having a drink with Magneto at a bar in Krakoa was also fucking sick
ooohhhh H.E.R.B.I.E's gonna be the payload. Makes sense, woulda liked to see him more tho...
meh im glad he isnt a hero
@@epzoyeah same
@@epzoI would've been happy to see him as a piece of Reed's kit but I agree he doesn't have enough to him to be his own playable character.
Is herbie that robot in the promotional picture?
@@rawrdino7046 Yeah, that's him.
It makes sense they are making a new york city map, ive been waiting especially because of the voiceline of doctor strange when spider man dies in a match
2:14 considering how many heroes and villains there are in the marvel universes, id say it's not only possible, but they could probably add *four** characters per season for the next 100 seasons, and still only scratch the surface
i think flats was mostly referring to the time it takes to make a new character, not the amount of characters available to choose from
@@Astral_Incarnate I swear some people think creating a character with a nice gameplay is easy
@Astral_Incarnate yes you are correct, but compared to overwatch, and game that has no previous lore, with Marvel Rivals they have so much IP they can pick from, instead of having to fully design a character they can go "oh, what would the moveset for this pre existing character, thus removing an entire aspect of design that Overwatch had to do, so they probably won't be able to keep this pace, but a character a season is possible, and my personal guess is it'll be a character or group (such as with them doing the fantastic 4 all at once
@@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman I believe "creating" a character, and "using" a pre-existing character are very different procedures. Like @flowergirl1009 said, marvel has a massive amount of heroes that already have abilities. While also using pre-existing art, concepts, and models, it is much easier to adapt that material in-game. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
I would love a series where you read the lore!
All of this sounds amazing and I’m super excited but I just listened to the podcast you were on a couple days ago with svb and necros and I can’t remember the other two names and when you guys talked about the longevity of the game, one thing that came to mind for me was to focus on team ups in upcoming seasons (which I don’t think they talk about for this season) and not just the team ups for the new characters for each season but maybe add in new team ups for old characters to give those one tricks something new with the game and I think adding something new to the existing content versus simply just adding more content will really help with the longevity of the game and help the new seasons feel impactful for everyone
Deciding to do the entire presentation in English instead of using a translator really communicates the message that they’re putting their maximum effort into this game. Really looking forward to Season 1
I’d love for you to do a lore video, because I want to see your reactions to it
Streamer mode is used to prevent ppl ban your main I guess
It also prevents stream sniping and targeted harassment
Streamer mode in high Elo is kind of stupid if you have hero bans in the game
@@philipb.1950atleast they wont know your IGN so they wont know who your main is.
@@philipb.1950why would banning matter just ban who you personally dislike playing against or who counters your team instead of targeting one skilled player maybe
@@Finn-wc8nq Because there are people who are OTPs that will have to play a character they have little experience playing essentially throwing a match in higher elos
I love the thought of flats making a video where he reads all the lore on every characters page, like a 2 hours video where he reads them in the background while I play a relaxing game sound so nice!
@12:02 yes Cap is slept on. he is very strong when he's played like a dive character. He can also distract the enemy backline and stall with his shield for your team to regroup.
Exactly! But I kinda like that about him. People constantly underestimate Cap in the comics and movies. So when he actually goes out there and fights, he ends up surprising everyone. I feel that way as a Cap main! Enemies either ignore us, and we get to dive their backline, or they are forced to look at us diving. And since we're a tank, we can take the hits that would take out a squishier diver when jumping the enemy backline.
All of those changes were literally a punch in the face to Blizzard. Love it.
Yes read to me flats. 5:03
2:15, "There's no way they can keep up with this pace"? Marvel has upwards of 80 THOUSAND + characters, and is continuously added to on a regular basis by comic creators and writers. At this pace, adding 4 characters every couple months, they could keep this pace going for YEARS and never run out.
I think he means it more in terms of the developers being able to consistently create 4 characters with different move sets with each drop, yeah marvel has decades worth of characters but you can only implement them into the game so fast
Ah yes, the game dev process allows 4 characters to be created every 2 months. Can’t wait!!
@@theeddy1296 Dunno why your comment sounds so sarcastic to me but that's a GOOD thing!!
@@pptoucher373 Even if they drop it down to 2 or 3, they'll have even MORE years worth of content.
@@theeddy1296Ultron, Blade, Emma Frost, and a few other characters are already finished according to leaks. They have a backlog
How could you not click the like on the dev talk video, Flats!?
Also submitting my vote for you to read the character lore! It will be exciting because it's fresh to you too!
Overwatch took 7 years to add a streamer mode and marvel rivals didn’t even take 7 weeks lmao
I love my OBB (overwatch but better)
@ true bestie
Do people think all the things coming after the game release were also made after the game release?....
@@indeboss obviously not but it’s still an impressive time frame and shows they care about what quality of life features a lot more than blizzard does
They're freaking cooking. They're on top of stuff I didn't expect them to be
6:15 You would get enough currency back to buy the next pass because you can convert units into lattice meaning you will get 1200 credits from the battle pass, or thats how I understand it at least.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can covert units to lattice. You can convert lattice to units but not vice versa. It would still be enough to buy the next pass because this pass will give u 600 and the next pass will give u another 600.
@@cyber7453yeah you can’t convert units into lattice but you can the other way
You can convert Lattice into Units but not the other way around. So this means the battlepass does not pay for itself. (Still worth it)
@@chilosopher4856 oh mb
the effort to try and communicated with the broad community is so wholesome
>>>>deathslinger
Some people say Marvel Rivals is copying Overwatch ... I say they're improving it ... if Blizz had listened to the community in the many years leading up to OW2 the same as NetEase has done in the ONE month it's been released publicly then Overwatch would be a completely different game.
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i didn't realise the overlay at first and thought they were featuring her in the video 😭
To answer your question at 4:40 , I would love to have the lore read to me. I often put on your vids when I sleep as background noise. And who doesn't love a good bedtime story. lol
lore video would be cool ngl!
TLDR;
MRs: 4 new heroes, 3 new maps, 1 new gamemode, 1 new rank, streamer mode, graphics optamization
OW2: 1 new hero (.................................................................................................................................................)
1 new hero every 2 seasons more like. I have completely ditched overwatch
I have been playing Captain America with a lot of success, people just dont understand how to play him and where to play him
He's the fastest tank in the game. I don't understand why people sleep on him.
The fact Streamer Mode was mentioned in the podcast and then boom MR already had it in the works is crazy
Read to us good sir.
I would love to see you reading the lore for Rivals. I am dyslexic, and reading is always a struggle.
Your videos reading the Overwatch patch notes have been a godsend for years, thank you!
everyone's so impressed because overwatch set the bar on the floor
On today's episode of Master Chef we are gonna see Marvel Rivals Cook.
5:35 wait a minute is that Van Helsing wolverine... Oh... Oh these devs are LIKE THAT like that
THATS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY! No way they made that meta joke.. cuz it’s not old man Logan in a vampire season… ain’t no way
Wolverine Vampire Hunter is extra sick because it looks like it was based on Hugh Jackman as Van Helsing.
15:04 I would say the person that made Wolverine know was team captain tbh
Team captain credits yckor
4:44 Story time with Flats!? Hell yeah!
I would be so down to hear you explain the lore of the characters.
4:50 I listen to your streams and other long form content at work, I would absolutely love to hear the deep lore at work. I'd tune in for sure
I support the idea of reading character lores on a video.
Why reading ? There are limit thousands of comics retold video, especially those from Comicstorian
7:15
They’re called the “First Family” because they were Marvel’s first really prominent superhero team (particularly in the Stan Lee era) and also they’re all really close-knit or literally related. Invisible Woman and Human Torch are siblings, while she and Mr. Fantastic are married (and eventually have kids in the comics). Mr. Fantastic and The Thing are really good friends too, like way before the Fantastic Four.
Dagger & Cloak buffs? LETS GO BABY!!!!!!!!!
Her basic healing is ass aside from dome healing so its good that shes buffed.
Just got to GM with 17k heals per 10min she deffo not ass, I've put over 5 hours into 8 characters and they got most MVP by a mile@@Doflaminguard
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z Dagger is the #1 healer in the game. I consistently pull 30k a match.
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_ZYe but I'd assume somebody with your skill level but on another healer is likely able to accomplish much more with Luna Snow or Mantis
@@Doflaminguard I can keep a tank alive against 3 players with C&D. With a buff I'll be able to keep the tank alive against the whole team.
4:50 yes flats! we need the bedtime marvel readings from you!
Yes to the lore reading!!!!!
Im 100% down for you to read through the lore pages of the characters and the comic pages for the season! I think it would a fun time for the chat to learn a lot more about the characters! Even if you chose just to read a few of them, like your favorites, I think chat and youtube will enjoy it either way. I enjoy your content no matter what!
I would listen to flats talk about the lore pages 100%
I am coming to marvel rivals
So am I 🥵
Come on over! We saved you a spot
@@Akura359 I don’t think that’s what they meant…
So much cominication on the Dev's part. I can't resist coming to this game
i want to come too but I can't choose a good gaming laptop. any recommendations? how is 4060 gpu holding up in terms of fps?
Yes to the lore reading!
I love that they gave specific drop dates and timelines for whatever they could. I can feel the confidence and foresight
One thing I absolutely love about this game is the destructible walls and changing maps, and I love that they're playing into it. it really helps with making the game not feel repetitive even if you have played the same map 100 times.
Overwatch player surprised when seeing devs care about their game
That Wolverine skin reminds me of the Halloween McCree skin.
R.I.P. Overwatch, you reap what you sow
I am actually speechless. They been cooking up some delicious food for us
Rivals got more hero's in 1 season the OW 2 got in 2 years jokewatch
Their not creating heros it's marvel characters their using takes zero creativity🤡
@WeDontBelieveYouNerds sure but the kits are legitimately fun to play and creative for the most part.
Literally not true?
overwatch 2 launched with 3 heroes then after that 7 have come out, what are you on about lol
@@WeDontBelieveYouNerdsoverwatch has their own universe too you know, they can just grab characters from there 😂
I would definitely enjoy videos of you reading all of the individual character lore! Probably for different reasons from most though.
I’m in the minority of viewers who have never played Marvel Rivals, because I don’t own any device that is capable of downloading it. So for the past month, I’ve spent most of my free time enjoying the game through RUclipsrs/Streamers like you! I can’t read those lore comics myself, despite being a huge Marvel fan, so I would definitely enjoy watching story videos!
i am now going to invest into a ps5 and headset... its time to conquer!
Heres the thing, the main advantage that they have being inder the marvel umbrella isnt the brand but the decades worth of content that it has accumalated. So many heroes and villians to explore. They showed they can even make fringe characters like squirrel girl and jeff the shark popular.
THIS JUST SHOWS ITS NOT HARD TO COMMUNICATE. I pray they keep up this with giving info and stats to the community
The good thing about characters in marval rivals is that all the visual concepting is already done. That phase is not a small part of character development, so I wouldnt be surprised to see them pump out characters at a faster rate than games who have to go through the concept phase.
I think the reason they'll be able to keep up multiple character launches per season is simply the fact that it's mostly established characters (this is in no way me saying that'll be easy because there are other factors involved in the game making process but) they'll have a much easier time because a lot of marvel heroes have powers and abilities that can be turned into really fun kits unlike overwatch where they need to start from the ground up everytime
It also really cuts down on the art design of having to abstract a good design from nothing. Having a base and just being able to customize it a little (ala wolverine) saves so much time on creative side and gives the devs a chance to create models and textures much sooner
4:47 - Yes, would love to throw this on while mindlessly grinding at work. 🙌
W FLATS BANGER LETS GOOO
The music in the background of Zhiyong's part was insane.
Where my mantis players at
Santa is never as cool as Marvel Rivals Devs. these people literally made me sound like a freaking squeaker again with the amount of hype they're giving me.
Do yall think they would actually keep this up, releasing multiple heros at once or how much of this is actually just content that was almost ready but didn't finish at release?? Or is it that most characters are pre-existing from the comics so it cuts a lot of work from hero design and some abilities?
Nah its gonna lower to 1-2 characters per season. Which is totally fine. It's just a marketing push early on to retain players.
It's gonna go down to 2 characters per season 1 per half. A lot of characters were leaked, though they were very undeveloped its gonna keep them for a while. Most of the characters are comic characters so there's that too.
I think that a regular season will have 2 heros (1 the start and 1 mid season). Basically, one hero every 6 weeks and one map every 12 (?).
At least that's what I understood.
Probably a better pace like this over trying to release a lot like 8 or something. They'll be able to keep the pace, what my guess is that the leaked characters which was like..around 4+ more? Will be for season 2 and their abilities are already done, some already have models so their focusing on the models then working on season 3.
Especially if their is leaks already on them they probably already have a roadmap on planning at least a year ahead. If you look at the maps their usually the same stages except different modes of it(Which I dont mind it at all)
2025 gonna be an amazing year for this game, never been so excited for a video game in years
So you can either save your lattice two seasons from now to buy the battle pass come season 3 , get about 60% off the next season’s BP, or convert the lattice to get 1200 units for the shop. I love the options here and this sounds like a good compromise to me.
Can I just say how much I love how they handled monetizion in the game. Funneling the cost of the skins through units was the best decision they could’ve made.
People really like to ignore the recommended combos that the devs put in the hero tabs, but they know what they are doing with their characters and those suggested combos are a great place to start when learning a character
how are they cooking so hard so fast at this point im expecting them to add PVE in season 2 lol