Patreon EXCLUSIVE | Hakuna Matata Part 1 | The Joe Budden Podcast
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Things get interesting on this Patreon exclusive! Joe questions Ish on why he showed up late to the pod, Ish and Joe debate the terms of Ish's contract with the JBN + MORE!
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Ish was 1000% right, Joe literally didn’t answer one question.
Facts. It’s not even close
It crushes me when Joe gets like this. Ish was extra well spoken the entire time. He made perfect sense. Joe got on some Matrix dodge shit. It's damn near embarrassing
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He sure does know how to Fucc up a good thing don’t he lol
Lol facts
This is, no pun intended, regular Joe
Always
Ish the only one that’s not afraid of joe, he got his own bag , I’m rocking with ish whatever happens
They’re one in the same, don’t get it fucked up
Ish knows the real Joe and knows how to play his games 💯
Ice not scared, Parks 💯 scared.
Ish and Ice literally saved this show. They showed up when Rory and Mal were on strike and been riding with Joe ever since even when things were mad awkward. Joe should respect them more.
"you don't owe your friends respect".
Joe only respects Joe
@@mbarry7404 you beat me to it! Joe is really a POS but luckily for him he's entertaining to listen to 😅
As someone who was a fan of joe since early. You guys are bigger d riders then the weirdos that came to bb kings to cry to all of me 😂😂😂😂
Joe could replace them tomorrow and the quality of the show wouldn't change Joe is the main draw he knows how to have interesting conversations. Without Joe ish ice and parks would not move the needle even a little bit. Facts
Joe's issue is, he thinks he is smarter than he really is. Ish cooked him. LOVED seeing it!
47:37 we had a president elected for the sole reason of NOT having experience, and now Joe is conflating experience with position.
if i was his representation, i’d advise him to STOP talking. cause the more he does…..the worse the legality of his contracts sound lmao 😂
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SCREAMING FROM MOUNTAIN TOP FACTS!!!!!!!!! He was hotter than fish grease! I love Joe but he was dead wrong. Very insulting!!!!
Joe is bullshyt!!!!
Y’all do know this is why he brung ish on , they’ve had these fights forever , Joe do be wrong but,sometimes he’s arguing with ish for entertainment purposes he knows this is gonna happen.
Joe got his muffins sliced up in this discussion. I understand he wanted to protect himself because of what happen but in this case ish is 1000 percent right
Ish is Right on paper. But Joe is right in the sense that most companies paying the amount hes paying wont modify the contract & the clauses in place are non-negotiable. So essentially Ish's only recourse is to ask for more money cuz that part of the contract can be modified but not the legal bylaws in place to protect the business. I JUST WISH JOE KNEW HOW TO ARTICULATE HIS POINT WITHOUT USING EXAMPLES THAT BELITTLE/DEMEAN ISH'S VALUE!
No he's not lol
@@DonCurlyOny Joe didn't diminish ish's value. Joe held back in letting Ish know his role as a beginner podcaster. Ish got upset because he feels he's not a entry level podder, which he is. So the demands he's asking for shouldn't be awarded to someone who just entered the field.
Ish was right
@@broabc66 ish isn't an entry level podder lol. Ish has been the life of the pod for a lot of us. His ability defaults him out of being entry level
Ish really washed Joe in the debate and was well spoken until he got amped in the end .
I applaud you guys for being transparent and tackling the tough conversation.
2 lions ….. no lambs 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
ISH is really aware of his worth - on and off the show
I love that Ish is willing to fight Joe (verbally) like someone who doesn’t need him, and I love that Joe has enough ego to allow someone he’s paying to engage him like an equal (as opposed to boss / employee dynamic). Great content!
Joe gives the perfect balance of “damn that guys a genius” and “nigga wtf is you talking about” 😂
A "Brilliant Idiot." If you of the culture you will understand why this is really a BAR😂😂😂
Yup a whole bar.
That cut from light to dark was WILD 😂
Mannn i didn't even notice that. Lol I had to go back after seeing this comment and it happened around 9:40 shit looks mad awkward when they cut back. Ice does his fake laugh when shit gets uneasy and Joe drops a corny joke to break the silence. Something definitely happened 🤷🏽♂️
Im glad someone noticed
@@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX No it didn’t. This is a 3hr pod. They did some editing.
@@beng8262 Lol 3 Hours won't cut it if you know anything about natural light. It went from high noon to pitch black. No golden hour, blue hour, nothing? 🤣 Sure they may film 6 or 7 hours and cut takes... We'll never know 🤷🏽♂️
The episode was 3 hours long. They took a chunk from the beginning and a chunk from the end.
I can't believe they put this up. It's golden. I really hope Joe handles Ish correctly. It's looking scary because Ish is very aware of his worth and Joe is uncomfortable with it.
Agreed, Joe clearly didn’t learn the lesson.
Bingo
You just dropped a bar.
Worth in Joe system
@@vonniev0n I was going to say the same. These mf are random guest to us. This is their first pod
"You sound like a label" is one of the biggest facts ever heard in this pod.
This podcast is the best example for why "friends" and business should NEVER be combined, thanks for the life lesson 👍🏽
i was thinking the saaaaaame thing.
Yeah, when I was young, I thought that I could get money with my family or friends but I’ve quickly grown to learn it will NEVER work.
No. This is the example of how to manage friends & business. It can work, just be grown about it.
if your friends are like joe then u shouldnt combine
But you can the problem is whom you get in business with cause all your friends & family aren't good in business
Agree with ish 100% on the contract. Joe could walk in tomorrow and say Spotify offered me a solo show deal making 100 million dollars. They would have to eat it and go back to their previous lives. If they made sacrifices, turned down gigs or quit jobs to be here, there should be compensation. The co host have more to lose than Joe does. We've already seen that all it takes is 2 more people who can talk to keep the ball rolling for joe.
The difference between this job and other high paying jobs is if I’m a great lawyer and get fired another firm will higher me and probably pay me exactly what my previous firm did. Ish can only get the money he’s getting paid from Joe. He’s negotiating against himself. Real jobs that’s usually not the case if you’re talented.
If I work 2 jobs….1 at Burger King and the other at Marshall’s…does Burger King have to modify their contract because of that?
It’s his creation and company and he created podcast before everyone including joe rogan
The business owner takes disproportionate risk at multiple levels which co creators can't compare with. Apart from being a business owner Joe is also the creative head of the gig as well as co creator as well as cutting deals and much more, so no, the co hosts business risk don't compare at all
You’ll only thinking as the employee.
Joe knows he is wrong that's why he keeps interuppting and leaving. Needing this kind of control of people he says he loves is what makes them resent him. Yes they are operating in a professional capacity but fairness is critical for optimal performance in any industry.
which boss sits around with all of their employees discussing their contracts
See unlike Rory and Mal, Ish got all of his bases covered, he’s a business owner himself so he understands incentive.
orrr Ish has the benefit of hindsight. He was able to have front seat to the dissolution of that partnership. So now he knows how to protect himself when Joe does what Joe does best. 🤷🏿♀️
@@tarheelmami
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@@tarheelmami both can be true. This is why you negotiate.
Rory and mal didn't think they needed to do certain things because they're relationship
That’s hate!
This podcast is a great example of why it’s so tough to mix business and friendship. Joe is doing everything right from a professional standpoint but by admitting the contracts aren’t binding because of the friendship he’s causing unnecessary confusion. Ish brings up a great question… if I’m protected on a personal level why wouldn’t you protect me on a professional level?
Great talk fellas
You literally hit this on the nail
It’s tough for sure . But Joe purposely makes it complicated lol
Because hes already paying him at friend rates
@@BkuBrown facts!! Lol
I remember Rory and mal saying that joe did this when they ask for the stats 😂😂😂
Out of all of the statements Ish said, the one statement that sums it up is when he said "You not minimizing me" HEARD YOU!!!! 💪🏾
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That was powerful and that’s how I always negotiate my packages. I need something as soon as I signed the docs and then we will move on what I need monthly and if I don’t get what I need I leave
@@SupreemTeam It was definitely powerful!
Joe should be grateful that Ish and Ice even stepped up to help him when ours left. Ish is new in the pod world but that boy is a wizard with the words.
Best pod ever. The real life arguments between friends was so real and genuine. Dope shit glad u released this.
Been waiting on this since the clip dropped
Why Joe dont have his real pods like this. The pods he upload to youtube be average or trash sometimes. The 3 paetron clips i watched all have been fire. I might be willing to pay now..
Yeah they need more dicussions like this no lie. And ish did put that up for real.
It’s all fun and games until it ends like what happened on the No Jumper podcast 😂
@@MoeDavinci lol. Adam let’s his cohost do whatever they want . Start competing pods etc
“And I gotta fill my pockets” 🤣💯
Joe is making Rory and Mail look more right 😂😂😂😂😂
You dont think he making them look dumb for accepting terms and yelling after instead of beforw?
This is one of the best episodes in JBP history
😂 as a member we been seen this lol 😩 enjoy its iiight lol
Joe was kicking some real serious bullshit on here shit was comical 😭
I know damn well joe didn’t move the goal post to entry level with the conversation Ish has brought to this Pod Ish came in here and brought the heat he’s a dad he’s older interracial dating but pro black home ownership etc he brings so much to the table and he’s informing all staff during this episode on how to legally protect themselves 🙌🏾👌🏾🗣️ you did that shit Ish 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Is he entry level as a podcaster yes. Is he entry level of the knowledge and experience of what they talk about . Fucc no . So if Joe ain’t right the 🥅 gets moved
He is entry level though to this profession, which is a business. Which is why I get where Joe is coming from, if you want that clause in the contract, then you won’t be getting paid higher than you should be. Negotiating at it’s finest
Joe shifting his body when Ish starting getting on his behind is hilarious 😂
Man This Episode Only Makes Me Appreciate Ish & Highlights His Contribution To The Pod 1000x
Rory and Mal are having a good laugh right now.
Because a leopard can never change their spots
Joe literally never admits when he is wrong . When he seeing he just talks in circles
What Joe wanted to say when Ish said what protects him if he gets fired, is Friendship 😂
The power of friendship triumphs over all 😂
Lol dead. Friendship has no place in contracts
Mal thought so to
But he couldn’t use it cause friendship doesn’t stop Joe from doing what him lol
Joe a carebear, the power of friendship always wins 😂😂😂
They are both right, in some way. There should be an agreement on how much notice is required to quit/fire. Joe is correct as well, I’m paying you very well for something you knew nothing about, so you can either take less or agree to the terms. No one else would hire him with no experience and pay him what it seems like he’s getting paid there. The pay was good enough for him to cut back at his own business. Great POD ! Hope they work it out. I love both Ice and Ish!
Don’t give in Ish. Workers right is a thing for a reason. It’s kinda an example of Joe living long enough to see himself turn into a villain 😂.
The fact that Joe is not willing to put it in writing on a contract is a huge red flag
No it’s not. Do we do this to the white man? Why when we try run a business we have to tweak everything. He almost lost it all
Bruhh ! Joe going to the bathroom 😭🤣🤣 ish said puff puff, then joe Budden came in floating 🙄😭😭🤣
53:18 is what I was happy to see after all the talk. They still friends and I hope they keep it that way, with or without them doing pod together. Just stay friends don't ruin relationships 🙂
I love how Joe ADDED “entry level” to the argument - then contradicts that by saying he pays more than any other entry level position at a company.. but missed the fact that ANYONE can willfully quit their ENTRY level position without recourse. He’s alllll over the place just to be right and so wrong lol
Ice made the great point that there are employees making less with less responsibilities which makes them entry level. Not having prior experience does not make it entry level. Joe didn’t get that.
@@nancyadane1818 exactly lol. Joe isn’t able to split work experience, and hierarchies. There’s CEO’s that have no prior experience in a specific industry, that get headhunted by Fortune 500 companies cause of what they’ve done In different areas. Literally 0 experience in that industry, and being CEO is as far as you can be from an entry level position in a business.
Ish ain't wrong! Glad he pushed back on the contract & is still coming in off his 1099 lol
Ish baked up a pallet of assorted 1,000-piece hot n fresh muffins. Cracked! Lol
Joe's stubbornness really showed this episode. Ish cracked his muffins something crazy
I never thought he would release to the public 🤣🤣 Ish put on a show, Joe was on the ropes whole pod 🤣
Joe is trash…
Content kings. Keep the content coming
I love enjoy seeing them debate and remain friends!!! Ish taking his hoodie off Joe walking outside is hilarious 😂 🤣😂
“How if you don’t plan on quitting “
“HOW IF YOU DONT PLAN ON FIRING ME”
JOE IS CRAZY
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can tell ish is a genuinely honest person.
Joe asking if we seen Swae Lee and Coi Leray in the same room is hilarious 😂😂😂
I rarely agree with Ish but he was right with the "I quit" clause. I get Joe's point that it protects his company from another Rosy and Mole incident by not putting that in the contract. My resolution would be what Parks said, change the language. Just add a 2 week notice on both sides so each has the appropriate time to financially react to a split.
Rosy and Mole?........holy shit. There are people that really sided with joe in that whole situation🤦🏿♂
That was funny tho so fuck the sides keep the funny going.
Joe got COOKED! Straight FACTS!
Ice looking like he regrets not negotiating his contract. 😂😂😂😂
Somebody calling you "Mr. Joe" is hilarious.
Dope content! These talks amongst friends can get uncomfortable but necesary sometimes in business. Transparency always keeps the business afloat.
Joe really be moving the goal post 😂 In the name of love I’m sure 😅
I'm starting to think Joe gives himself too much credit when it comes to being business savvy. Ish cracked his muffin 1000x during this episode
ISH WAS CRACKIN MUFFINS 😂 😂😂😂
Ish!!! I love the contract negotiation.
Yeah Joe got caught on this one. He should've never expected Ish to just cowtow for the pod. Ish gonna keep it 💯 at all times
yeah ima have to go ahead and sign up for this patreon. This was the most fire discussion i've seen in a while on the JBP
This ep was fwaking fire they need to go get a contract with rumble but ish is wrong fam he has no actor resume he has no broadcasting resume and nvm
@@Noticeonly I don’t disagree, but I just think Joe be using the wrong words to explain himself 😂😂 I don’t think “entry-level” was the right word, but I see what he meant
I just said the same shit watching this.
I ain’t tryna sound weird but ish is the type of friend we all should have.
Ish phone dying is hilarious 😂
I completely understand why Ish got so upset with this conversation. The amount of times Joe interrupts Ish is astronomical.
Also this is why arbitration is important.
Joe's lifestyle really showed in this episode.
cozy
Sheesh this is when you realize everything Rory and Mal are saying is probably 100% true
Absolutely! Ish also proved they were right when he mentioned to Joe episodes ago about why wouldn't he just show the damn numbers? 🙄
as crazy as this sounds to people that don’t understand how contracts and Business works, Joe is 100% correct. Doesn’t mean it’s fair. Joe is the is only protecting his business and brand. Co host come and go. He’s pretty reasonable as well, just needs to explain better 😂
Probably ?
@@Allday3211 no he’s not right. You can not have a fire at will clause and have on reciprocation. Ish should allowed to quit whenever. Or like parks said there should be some sort of kill clause and Joe should have to pay out the rest of the Ish’s contract. I get Joe is trynna protect is business but Ish has a right to protect himself too
Probably? 😂
You know you lost the argument when you gotta move the goal post and say “I’m off this” and storm off lol Ish is right
Ish is a real one!! Well spoken!! Well said Ish!
Ish was Gordon Ramsay on this episode sheesh
19:30 The ish jump up! HILARIOUS 😂
Joe would be a hell of a field goal kicker 🤣
Good point on the entry level that Joe made because there are levels to everything but given the status of the platform in that may require some compensation if he's ever fired. Again levels. I Salute Joe for giving his friends the look but the fact of the matter is you're not just gonna pick anyone to support your million dollar brand because why?.. it's business! So that contract should reflect the same.
Ish whooped that boy 😂😂
“This is where I thrive”!!! - ISH
AYEEEE GET HIMMM!!!
Lol as soon as ice said "so why put that in the contract?" the muffin's was served 😂 conversation over
Ish is wild AF for wearing ankle socks with that sweat suit.
Man Yall been blessing these non-patreon having brokies. Salute.
As a patreon member, it would behoove you to not down talk the people you want to consume your product. Marketing 101. If the hosts don’t do it why are you self projecting your impoverished mindset onto other people. Lol just enjoy the content & stfu shaming others
@@D33Hustle even the non Patreon members call themselves “brokies”. Relax. It’s the internet.
@@beng8262 he's just a bltxh
@Rock Lee or he can play in traffic
Yall both sound like two Karen's lol
Oh yeah Ish cracked mad muffins this day lmao
Joe's argument is also a contradiction as he is correct in that replacing Ish would be difficult af since Ish brings such a unique perspective to the pod. Which is y Ish could never be *entry-level* in the sense that the experience deters the fact that he hasn't held a position in podcast-land prior to this.
In short, both parties should be protected, fairly. In any business, there should be compensation for Ish being let go randomly for whatever reason.... some form of a severance package, as most companies payout. However Joe is saying no - I should just be able to fire you with no recourse (bc technically you're overpaid based on not having a previous podcast role) but you can't quit. Ish feels unprotected, which brings forth job insecurity. Joe's salary reference isn't relevant to this conversation bc at the end of the day ish is losing money by sacrificing to be at this podcast.
Where is the confusion?
Perfect recap.
Exactly, he's in no way working an "entry-level" job, he's just a novice in a high position.
@@OriginalBoondocksXVIII this.
"I got the nigga outside smoking cigs panicking" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ish dropping last names is crazy
Number one Lesson :I've learned from this episode
is under no circumstances,
you never do business with friends.
you never do business with Joe Budden.
I’d say know which friends you’re doing business with. Contracts should protect everyone in friendly business.
Yo! I have never seen Parks look so sick as when Ish is going off. Breathe Parks you’re turning red! 😂😂😂
Joe sat there on that couch and said “I don’t owe my friends respect” can’t blame Ish for wanting to protect himself. Joe loves to contradict himself. “ You my man… I’m not gonna fire you or sue you if you leave but sign this that says I can” Nah
This is where queensflip comes in…..
An entry level boss
As much as i love joe n been fan for over 20 years this ep is very telling of joe and how he handles business . . . Even tho thres always been hints of this
Ish is vital to this pod and the first person I seen hand Joe his ass on a platter. Joe loves to pivot when he realize he lost an argument. Ish holds him accountable on air.
Joe gets me tight! Never answering anything directly cause he knows that sounds wild. Running around in circles around what actually makes sense and really believes he’s making sense. How can he not get Ish sentiment …..
Joe real nasty in business as a fan of a pod it hurts to see him treat friends or associates that one can’t ever get close
Idk why they posted this, this makes Joe look very very bad. The worst part is he knows he’s wrong in this argument but doesn’t want to acknowledge it.
I’m sure they had a million more aggressive conversations b4 but I appreciate them puttn this out. If we can only be friends if we agree than we ain’t friends.
Parks face at 38:07 haha he knows where this is going
Ahhhh I’m loving all the Catch Up I’m Doing On This Podcast. Definitely My Fav Pod Right Now. I try and go back to watch a Seasoned Episode Everyday.💙🤗
43:25 This pretty much summed up the whole convo, Ish cracked him right here and won
Ish busted Joe ass the whole time 😂
zipped eem up 😭
My god he just blasted his ass (pause lol) and Joe too honorary to admit he wrong. Pathetic
0:49:18….Ish voice wasn’t recovering after that scream.
joe is wylinnnnnnnnnnn 😂😂😂 i’m rockin with Uncle Ish 💯💯
53:30 😂😂😂😂 when Joe comes back from 😮💨🚬🚬
Whats the protection Joe? 😂😂😂😂 Joe was acting confused af😂😂😂😂
Eventually Joe shows you exactly how he feels about you.
Joe is triiiipin hahahaha, Ish is spittin this episode .
I understand Joe being afraid since the last group went left… but I do understand why ish wants what he wants too… hard to tell who has the leverage here
yeah, but you can't ask for that in a contract to not be fired. an employee can't ask for that . unless you built the company and add stake to the company
Y'all dropping like somebody leaked the stems!🤣🤣🤣
This episode almost 3 hours. Joe threw the brokies an hour of it to monetize.
@@beng8262 I'll take the hour! No complaints here.🙂
@@beng8262 wow look at the guy who paid $10-20 and think he’s rich to call someone brokie lmao a clown if I ever see one
@@beng8262 U hurt my broke ass a LIL BIT
47:22 well this has turned into the realest pod yall may have ever done. hope everything turns out well for the guys and this contract gets worked out asap. would hate to see ish go over money
It's not even about money, it's about ethical business
Joe has an insane ability in manipulation
or he think he does…
He attempts to manipulate. That’s what narcissists do.