Laura Bear that means that was one of the dragons, so could you imagine trying to have a serious business meeting and Jennifer is like “this banana is too good, I want to buy more, and for that reason I’m out”
Idk. People who do really well in school sometimes are that way because they are so deeply afraid of failure that they drive themselves to extreme lengths to excel. So, she might have been having a panic attack over faltering and "failing" the pitch.
Can’t believe she didn’t take Touker and Tej’s offer. They literally specialise in the health and textiles industries. Can only imagine how much touker would drive the cost price down
But she’s a “distinction student”- (please hear the sarcasm there) aka a “smart” student who did well early on in school and based on that was labeled as such all along the way clearly not bc she’s brilliant in any way.
@@differenttakethanmost she prolly had a class with 3 more people, she lacks ethic and it feels like she is only making a product, making money and not satisfying the customer “business 101”.
Being disabled myself, I can tell you that products that are meant to 'help' us are never affordable! But it's basic economics really, the market is small so the price needs to be high to turn profit
Design Bywhacky every product that is ergonomic has a huge markup. It’s what they do and it infuriates me. You can get a pen for 50p jusg for an ergonomic one and I mean proper ergonomic not just putting a grip on it your looking at a 5+. People would pay that because health is so damn important to them. I’ve spent hundreds on products designed to help me. It’s like. People know you’ll spend it so they charge it.
These things are ridiculously expensive in North America, even in Canada but luckily our healthcare covers the vast majority. I think she took the wrong choice as the connections for the other two would have allowed for massively reduced production costs, meaning you could drown the market with a highly desirable at very low cost to consumers. A smaller profit margin and fractional cost would mean massive turnover for even or higher net profits to reinvest, and even acquire new products to send to market on the same platform
Nick Wilson She used a typical female ploy, the damsel in distress. Worked well on the men as she knew it would. I admire her for using her looks to her advantage lol
Jenny plainly didn't like her-whether is was the exorbitant mark-up, or she felt threatened we will never know. Probably thought she was faking it for sympathy/to get investment. Did find it funny she had to sit in the product she was trying to sell.
I appreciate how quickly all the dragons reacted at the announcement that she was probably going to collapse......all except Jenny who did not even flinch!
I came down for this comment. I love the fact where all men stood up to help. I also have Disabling anxiety and good that she spoke it out as I faced an issue fighting with it so I don't embarrass my self and pass out.
Excatly, textile and health connections on a product that mostly uses textile for peoples health. Fukin dumb, the idea is actually perfect and profit margin is 300+% Perhaps she didn't actually want to lower the price so she weny with peter. But 30% for 75k? That is just rediculous... She went to a business school for crying out loud.
Vermillion 303 If you watch the ethical yoga Matt episode you’ll see that jennny went out then because she didn’t like that the company was making less money in order to help people. She just legit doesn’t want to play the game 😒
@@vermilliongecko So two thirds don't? If two thirds will pay £575 and ALL will pay £199 (although some of that one third wouldn't be able to afford it any cost) which is the better business model? Take 99 people 66 will pay £575 = £37,950 99 will pay £199 = £19,701 This is why more people don't make it in business ;)
Corinne demonstrated how well her product works - wheeled out, she kept cool, ate a banana and went back in. All the Dragons realised the potential - except Jenny.
I dont think it was “wrong” as they are all capable of making companies grow/products, but yeah i do agree that touker and tej would’ve been the better choice
Hhv Mmm So how do you explain her preference when all rational thought should have led her to choose Tej and Toukar? It’s an illustration of the mildest form of racism latent in most people, sorry to break the news, reality hurts.
Dude that's a good product, how come is this a "horrendous* pitch, she actually got those numbers on sheet and she did present well on the first half@@aakksshhaayy
it's been made clear on many many occasions that these visits usually run about an hour to 2 hours and the atmosphere is usually cordial and the editors edit it down to be a drama filled 10-30 minutes. so I 100% believe that deborah and jenny's reactions were edited to make it look like they were not believing her fainting.
@@sitnspin1819 how does innovation that could help people extort them? She isnt stealing their wheelchairs or something like that. Do you know what extorting means?
@@xanderwusky As I'm in a wheelchair, and have been for 30 of my 40 years, yes. I'm well aware of what extortion means. Many companies that sell equipment to people like me mark their prices far higher than they should. She even said herself. A lower price would put her credibility into question, and yet half a grand is deemed affordable. No. No, it isn't. It seems affordable since poorly built wheelchairs can cost upwards of £5,000. £550, or whatever her price is, sounds very reasonable at 10% of the cost of a basic power wheelchair.
whosaidpie Not to mention the fact that her bachelors was in International Fashion Management. Her Masters in Business Entrepreneurship would likely have been a year. Jenny’s comment was uncalled for.
I love the way y’all talk it’s so different than in America. In America we just say acting lol, acting up is what our kids do when we say no at the grocery store. These comments are always so interesting to me. 😂
It also means if they dont invest in her, she can make money by going to the papers and tarnishing their names for putting a poor, helpless little girl in a wheelchair, by being too mean. Notice the offers she racked up after returning. What a great student
Be afraid - be very scared when Peter Jones start asking the questions. The rest of the dragons rely on him to unveil the skeletons from all these entrepreneurs.
Because of the success of Levi Roots, people would pick Peter. At times i think Peter is too overrated. The participants should really think about which Dragon is more appropriate for their business. Tej is already established in the medical industry, he would definitely have helped her to advertise her product in the right places and Touker could have helped to drop cost of production (fabrics and all)
They can be - but used mobility scooters priced at >£1000 sell far easier than £3500 new ones. So anyone bringing out a similar product to this for £100 would crash their sales
What Corien said at the end was absolutely true that they try to break you then at the end they want you. Peter is the worst at this, he puts your business down and in the end he makes you an offer but he did it all in the guise of trying to get a better deal because he really likes it.
Peter is cunning, the moment he sense the business is too risky and many flaws he will try to eat the pitcher by asking a high equity stake, mind you, 10% is not an easy figure to simply hand over to an investor
I’m a medical device entrepreneur and it’s a lucrative market and I understand their interest. You need to know many top doctors across the globe, get an FDA, CE, and patents, patents, patents! Costs of manufacturing can be enormous. £75K will only cover the patent, if they can get it. They probably will and go on to invest more and more until she’s left with 1% of a very successful business. I’ve learned my lesson…
@@audibleadventures9004 well yeah you pretend you don't like the car and give a low offer so you will "take it anyway" if you show you really like the car the seller is going to give a high price
This was such B.S. She couldn't even forcast future sales and ducked out of the situation with black out excuse. Still had 4 dragon offers. I think Jenny might have been accurate in her assessment.
Standing in front of 4 business tycons who are grilling you, having cameras on you and knowing the fact that you messed things up. She had Disabling anxiety I am sure you would have peed in your pants.
@@ammadkhan2085 First of all you do not know me personally. No need to talk bullshit. People with such difficulties can come prepared with written data on a sheet. Use your brain man or are you still thinking from elsewhere?
I agree, this just goes to show the privilege pretty women have, any other entrepreneur would be crucified and shamed out of there. Not to mention selling a product that improves quality of life for disabled people at such a high margin is disgusting.
She also went from fashion to MBA which means she had no base knowledge to take on MBA although she says shes a distinction student. Seems like shes the type to get what she wants by crying
eh, she also got involved in an area that was not entirely related to what she studied at university. Had she kept on with her fashion plan, she would have done better.
Haha, I laughed so hard when I saw all the guys running to her to help like knights xD Her then wheeled out with a banana was the cherry on the top. Pure comedy gold.
Having low blood sugar is a pain tbh.. you rarely feel it coming on.. then next minute your dripping in sweat and out for the count in about 5 minutes 😬 I had a really bad one while on the A roads on my motorbike . Took me an hour to recover sat at side of the road 😴 😩
Man, I know Deborah and Peter are the big names and anyone would be lucky to have them, but Touker and Tej were surely the better team. They were passionate and way better aligned. Touker wanted that badly. Deobrah's pitch was 'I know someone in a wheelchair!'
@@mmckenzie8085 You'd only be doing that because they're OG dragons and the bigger names, though, not because they were better suited. Touker specialises in textiles and Tej specialises in the health/medical industry. They were clearly a better fit here and would have been the sensible move.
Maple Leaf Exactly! This is a pretty normal reaction to nerves/stress. It’s happened to me enough times. I don’t find it funny and don’t believe she faked it
@@rocketdolly69 Best of luck to the inner you to force some sugar in on moments like this :) Type of person I would carry an extra fruit bar or something just in case they needed it. I had a couple and 1 apprentice in particular that would almost faint every week due to low blood sugar so I would bring him treats... well played sir
Lol I know this is late. But I felt all the men were attracted to her. I've seen a number of episodes where they rip people to shreds for not knowing their numbers
lmao this was hilarious, the way they forced her to pass out and surrounded her like a gang, and then she says her sugar levels are low, so she is wheeled out on her own product eating a banana. The perfect pitch.
@@jimmyneutron129 That doesn't mean the business is over, it just means that the people on the show didn't invest. That doesn't stop others from investing and it doesn't mean the product will never be successful.🤦
I agree, something like that often happens to me. My sugar will drop and I either pass out very quickly, or I have to sit/lean against something and 1 of 2 things happen: I either stop talking (because I literally can’t see or hear anything) or I become incoherent. I could tell she wasn’t really “blacking out”. Maybe slightly dizzy due to her blood pressure going up, but not blacking out
Thanks for recapping what happened midway through the pitch, although the title already gave that part away. I'd still advise people to watch the whole video, though.
Classic business strategy: Enter room, tell everyone you're a distinction student, someone asks a question about money. "I'm sorry, I think I'm going to pass out. I only see black."
Jenny was so nasty to this woman in this episode. Constantly reminding her she is a distinction student when that has absolutely nothing to do with her feeling the pressure of the den and forgetting her numbers, which isn’t ideal but is forgivable. I’m so glad they got her off the show, Jenny is a nasty woman who is just unnecessarily rude to entrepreneurs in the den, Sara Davies is such an amazing replacement.
14:18 "'Cuase I don't want you to have it!" Given how many deals Peter has snatched away, that is probably the truest statement Touker has said in quite a while 😆
@@grease_monkey6078 yeah I don’t know what it is like to faint but isn’t it, it’s blurred vision, and than you might drop on the floor, she just went from completely fine to seeing black whaat,
Jenny secretly furious that Corinne was out before she was.
Haha
The very first funny Jenny joke ever! Finally! ;-)
@@Kris_Aalst right!
You've won the comment section today 🤣 gj dude, finally an original Jenny joke
True that 😂
This pandemic must be torture for jenny as she has to stay in
This is gold😂😂😂😂
@@bsolutions525 hahaha
comedy genius
That's a pretty good one, even in a sea of jenny jokes
Hahahaha
Imagine coming in to pitch a product for wheelchairs only to be carried out in one
:p
@Joe Kelly in the same token, Imagine coming in to pitch a coffin... then
😂😂😂
@@ivanong9648 Noo!! Haha
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Jenny: "My blood sugar's low, I'm getting stressed and for that reason, I'm blacking out"
The Best Jenny joke I have heard in Awhile The rest are repetitive and shite This one had me in stitches Hats off to you
6.57 Jenny blacks out
@@noneofyourbusiness3095 6:57
This comment deserves more likes
my god that made me laugh, thanks for that.
Tej: I think the product is expensive.
Narrator: Tej thinks the product is expensive.
Really clutching at straws there aren't they? 🤣
😂 !
My g Evan
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No matter how useless you feel in life just know at least you’re not Jenny’s notepad.
She doesn’t need a pen, just a ‘nope’ ink stamp
LMFAO
Picant observation.
You win with this comment
Lmao I love all the comments sections
She got wheeled out eating banana I love this show
Peter Colman same, same.
😂😂
The banana is for the quick sugar boost. It's quite normal to see.
Piers I think they’re aware pal. It’s just funny to see on a business tv show.
Same
I don’t know why but that shot of her being wheeled into the lift holding a banana cracked me up 😂😂😂
Laura Bear that means that was one of the dragons, so could you imagine trying to have a serious business meeting and Jennifer is like “this banana is too good, I want to buy more, and for that reason I’m out”
Laura Bear literally same I cried
😂😂😂
Same 😂
I thought I was the only one who found that funny but I still don't know why I do 😂
Jenny: “Because you didn’t actually pass out, I’m out.”
This is one of the best comments I've ever seen 😂😂🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣 best comment award 🏆
God I love the Dragon's Den comments.
🤭👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@chris carter Lol the woman was a total amateur at being out
Corien: I think I am going to pass...
Jenny: **looks visibly excited** Out?
😂
Jason Storey Jenny is actually just a dog in a lot of makeup and keeps needing to go outside
This comment has won🤣
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Plot Twist: She wasn't seeing all black and about to faint. She just had to double check on her numbers again 🤣
Clever haha
100%
Idk.
People who do really well in school sometimes are that way because they are so deeply afraid of failure that they drive themselves to extreme lengths to excel. So, she might have been having a panic attack over faltering and "failing" the pitch.
Classic student move
1000% that’s what happened 😂
She got wheeled out in her own wheel chair
Infinity Smart girl
😂😂😂
It’ll make for good advertisement that even the creator loves it
@@vibesbot6690 Bingo
Ahaha, brutal 😂
Can’t believe she didn’t take Touker and Tej’s offer. They literally specialise in the health and textiles industries. Can only imagine how much touker would drive the cost price down
I came to comment section just for this comment...... Spot on view. Silly blonde
But she’s a “distinction student”- (please hear the sarcasm there) aka a “smart” student who did well early on in school and based on that was labeled as such all along the way clearly not bc she’s brilliant in any way.
@@differenttakethanmost she prolly had a class with 3 more people, she lacks ethic and it feels like she is only making a product, making money and not satisfying the customer “business 101”.
i think she picked deb and peter bc theyre more 'fun'
I thought the same tbh. I wonder where the business is now
*starts googling*
“Can I go outside and look at my notes?”
No.
1 second later
“Ohhh I feel faint I have to go outside”
Deborah Meaden wasn't buying it lol
See what happens when your blonde haired and blue eyed?
It's called editing.
@@marcusbrown1009 what happens?
@@garrywhitelaw8723 If you can’t see it, it’s a bit hard to explain 🤷🏾♂️
Her getting wheeled out with a banana absolutely murdered me
😂😂😂😂😂
ffs lol
But where was jenny?
You are actually killing me
I still haven’t got to that bit yet but just the thought made me laugh very hard 😂
Being disabled myself, I can tell you that products that are meant to 'help' us are never affordable!
But it's basic economics really, the market is small so the price needs to be high to turn profit
Anything essential is expensive the dentists be charging 1000+ to replace one tooth
margins 0f 85 percent is taking the mic
Design Bywhacky every product that is ergonomic has a huge markup. It’s what they do and it infuriates me. You can get a pen for 50p jusg for an ergonomic one and I mean proper ergonomic not just putting a grip on it your looking at a 5+. People would pay that because health is so damn important to them. I’ve spent hundreds on products designed to help me. It’s like. People know you’ll spend it so they charge it.
Because the Gov will pay any old price for a cut
These things are ridiculously expensive in North America, even in Canada but luckily our healthcare covers the vast majority. I think she took the wrong choice as the connections for the other two would have allowed for massively reduced production costs, meaning you could drown the market with a highly desirable at very low cost to consumers. A smaller profit margin and fractional cost would mean massive turnover for even or higher net profits to reinvest, and even acquire new products to send to market on the same platform
Dragons: "is it made in the UK?"
Also Dragons "it's far too expensive you should outsource"
Her parts were from like 3 different countries and she had only made 4 prototypes, this would bring significant cost to her
Funny how they didn't ask her about any patents.
For the wheelchair the or the passing out stunt?
good point
Most certainly they did. These pitches takes 40-45 minutes. The show is highly edited.
Considering they didn't ask on the edit, indicates that she has one. If she did her evaluation would be high anyway
have the time it doesnt make the edit
Narrator : “It’s not the first time Six Foot Ten Peter Jones has put someone in a wheelchair “
Is he honestly 6'10"?
@@xenxander he's 6ft 7 I believe
coz he's got a 6 foot schlong
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"Im about to pass out..." She says as all 3 men rush to her aid
Thought the same thing😂😂
Just watched the video and I thought the same thing 😂.
Deborah and Jenny just sat back and looked at her lol
Bloody patriarchy mate I’ll tell you what 🤣🤣🤣
I would 'n'all cwoor
Nick Wilson She used a typical female ploy, the damsel in distress. Worked well on the men as she knew it would. I admire her for using her looks to her advantage lol
She sounds Dutch and Scottish at the same time lol
Probably a Dutch immigrant to Scotland. I love blended accents! 👍🏽
Yeah if she was full Scottish she would have straight hair and Curley teeth 😂😂👍🏴
the best mix mix
@@yvy6269 Literally says in the first 10seconds she's from Belgium lol
i thought there was a scottish twang
The men were the only ones rushing to help. Lol. The women almost looked annoyed! 😂
Theres no point 5 people swarming around someone if they feel faint. They were just giving her space
Jenny plainly didn't like her-whether is was the exorbitant mark-up, or she felt threatened we will never know. Probably thought she was faking it for sympathy/to get investment. Did find it funny she had to sit in the product she was trying to sell.
Cold evidence creatures 😥
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Men are much kinder..
😅I noticed that aswell. Woman both looked cold and no sympathy
Got to admit it’s a good way of getting out of the awkward questions and giving you time to go and revise a bit 👌🏼
I appreciate how quickly all the dragons reacted at the announcement that she was probably going to collapse......all except Jenny who did not even flinch!
She was pissed that she's out before her
She could see it was a stunt.
@@BleachRush HAHAHAHAHA
Jenny could tell it was being faked. The girl even smirked after she said it.
I came down for this comment. I love the fact where all men stood up to help. I also have Disabling anxiety and good that she spoke it out as I faced an issue fighting with it so I don't embarrass my self and pass out.
I’m a full time wheelchair user and I’d say this is a wheelie good idea!
Beat me to it damn
Jeez you rolled right into that one didn't you.
Keep it wheel
Keep it up and I’ll start pushing you around sport.
You've Hightened the quality of puns around here.
Jenny’s husband: *rings Jenny*
“Where are you?”
Jenny: “we ran out of milk, and for that reason I’m out”
haha
Hahahaaaaa
I was having a super rough day. But u made me laugh like an animal. Thanks mate. ♥️
You made me laugh hard 🤣🤣🤣
I think she would of been better off with Tej and T.S
Manufacturing and health industry duo
Peter and Deborah are overrated. Most their deals don't go through after the show. Touker would've been the better choice with that unit cost.
Excatly, textile and health connections on a product that mostly uses textile for peoples health. Fukin dumb, the idea is actually perfect and profit margin is 300+%
Perhaps she didn't actually want to lower the price so she weny with peter. But 30% for 75k? That is just rediculous... She went to a business school for crying out loud.
Agree. Foolish girl....
I thought the same.
@@fluffer7832 she could still sell it for 500 but only pays the 40$ in production costs. So I agree she chose the wrong guys
Girl: I have an 85% margin.
Jenny: You're making too much money and for that reason...
I'm out
A third of disabled people live their entire adult lives in poverty. No point making a products aimed at disabled people if they can't afford it.
Vermillion 303 If you watch the ethical yoga Matt episode you’ll see that jennny went out then because she didn’t like that the company was making less money in order to help people. She just legit doesn’t want to play the game 😒
@@dizzyizzy0202 nicely said!
Vermillion 303 these retail now at £650 😳 so much for bringing the costs down
@@vermilliongecko So two thirds don't? If two thirds will pay £575 and ALL will pay £199 (although some of that one third wouldn't be able to afford it any cost) which is the better business model?
Take 99 people
66 will pay £575 = £37,950
99 will pay £199 = £19,701
This is why more people don't make it in business ;)
I love how the three male dragons rush over to help her, while the two female dragons are like: " b, please". 🤣
Jenny mentioned distinction student more than the actual product itself
cos she's a muppet
No its because she left school at 16 and wants everyone to know that education is useless even though its not.
And Jenny’s right. “Distinction” doesn’t mean much when you don’t even know your numbers.
I can tell that she’s somewhat jealous of her background in some way..
@@aarizmushtaq4301 Yes, somehow I think you might have something.. somewhere.. and then some
It was easier to get wheeled out and recalculate than to get blasted by Peter Jones about her figures. The 2 ladies weren't buying it at all!
That’s what you call Mogul Move, she got out right before her pitch completely dissolved
@@vibesbot6690 she needs to cop ludwig's merch
Me neither!
Coolquip she needs to start drawing red sharpie on her forehead and call herself the inventor of gangster gambits
VibesBot no
Am I the only one constantly shocked to see how tall Peter Jones is in comparison to everyone else when standing up 😂😂
I had to look it up. Dude is 6'7"
Narrator: Corinne leaves the Den, this time without a banana
😂🤣
lmao
If DD editors had skipped Jenny I don't think anyone would have realised she was in the room.
If they skipped her... Wouldn't the same apply for any of the dragons? If you're skipping what they say how would you know they're there? lol
??? If you remove someone from a picture you don't notice them anymore. Yup!
Perhaps she's only really appeared in one episode and they just repeat her I'm out when they need to save money
@@speedy I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS LOL
She wasn't there, they added her in using green screen because she was out.
Corinne demonstrated how well her product works - wheeled out, she kept cool, ate a banana and went back in. All the Dragons realised the potential - except Jenny.
Jenny; for this reason I’m out
Jenny realises the potential, but she'd unfortunately left her purse at home.
Jenny is starting a new burger chain... It's called Out n Out Burger 🍔
Dead 😂
Underrated comment 😂😂
🎶🎶That’s what a hambuger’s all about and for that reason I’m out🎶🎶
Ffs😂😂😂😭
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"I'm an A-Grade Distinction student!" What's 2+2? Faints...
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you live a lucky life to not have disabling anxiety
@@joeyfatonefrombackstreetboys hard to believe she's got "disabling anxiety"
hahahah
You're a distinction student? Compare and contrast Touker with Peter using PEEL and include sources in your answer.
"I am so sorry but I am going to pass out"
Jenny: "Did someone say OUT?
She came in with her product the ‘wheelchair’ and was rolled out in the ‘wheelchair’ holding a banana ... I didn’t see this coming...
oh god the irony xD
U r a baddie!! Karen I can’t stop laughing
Based on experience, touker and tej, are the perfect dragons for her. She made the wrong choice.
I dont think it was “wrong” as they are all capable of making companies grow/products, but yeah i do agree that touker and tej would’ve been the better choice
There's always a very subtle racist subtext.
@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 racist?
@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 pathetic comment that says a lot more about your mindset.
Hhv Mmm So how do you explain her preference when all rational thought should have led her to choose Tej and Toukar? It’s an illustration of the mildest form of racism latent in most people, sorry to break the news, reality hurts.
Bruh, the fact that she got an investment after this horrendous pitch is a bloody miracle
I'll give you a hint... look at her face
Dude that's a good product, how come is this a "horrendous* pitch, she actually got those numbers on sheet and she did present well on the first half@@aakksshhaayy
The camera angle of her on the wheelchair with a banana _sent me_
Deborah's reaction when Corrine almost passed was killer
She wasn't buying it
@@countpythagoras how was it faked?
Deborah no fool
When Peter was drilling her and she said she was about to pass out, I immediately thought…”how convenient…” 😑 I didn’t buy it either.
it's been made clear on many many occasions that these visits usually run about an hour to 2 hours and the atmosphere is usually cordial and the editors edit it down to be a drama filled 10-30 minutes. so I 100% believe that deborah and jenny's reactions were edited to make it look like they were not believing her fainting.
Corinne: "I think I'm going to pass out".
Jenny: "I think I'm going to pass out too'.
“I think I’m going to pass out”
Jenny: And for that reason, she’s out before I am.
I am in Canada. My Mother's wheelchair cost over 5K and the extra cushions were 2K and they were not cooling. Her pricing is very good.
It really isn't. She's just another person looking to extort disabled people.
Why didn't she explain that then? She should know this stuff.
Yeah I thought the same thing, it doesnt seem all that expensive
@@sitnspin1819 how does innovation that could help people extort them? She isnt stealing their wheelchairs or something like that. Do you know what extorting means?
@@xanderwusky As I'm in a wheelchair, and have been for 30 of my 40 years, yes. I'm well aware of what extortion means. Many companies that sell equipment to people like me mark their prices far higher than they should. She even said herself. A lower price would put her credibility into question, and yet half a grand is deemed affordable.
No. No, it isn't. It seems affordable since poorly built wheelchairs can cost upwards of £5,000. £550, or whatever her price is, sounds very reasonable at 10% of the cost of a basic power wheelchair.
Jenny: You're a distinction student and you can't do large multiplications in your head in your second language? Not good enough!
whosaidpie I think math is the same no matter what language you speak
@@hcirs9425 yeah math is a language itself
whosaidpie it’s not the fact that she isn’t doing the maths - it’s the fact that she should know these numbers
whosaidpie Not to mention the fact that her bachelors was in International Fashion Management. Her Masters in Business Entrepreneurship would likely have been a year. Jenny’s comment was uncalled for.
@@pioncang8536
Ever read a mathematical proof? There's more text than mathematical symbols.
Whether she was acting up or not, I loved the way all the gentlemen got up immediately to help her 👏
I love the way y’all talk it’s so different than in America. In America we just say acting lol, acting up is what our kids do when we say no at the grocery store. These comments are always so interesting to me. 😂
She did look a bit shaky
@@AshNikkosWife that's essentially what they where getting at tho
@@NTxC no she didn't 😂 she was fine
But feminists will call us sexist for doing that.
I know the banana was for her blood sugar but the way they just transitioned suddenly to her eating it while being wheeled out was pure comedy
I think it's the single most tragic moment in dragon's den history 😂
Funny how all the men helped her but the 2 women just sat there rolling their eyes
Richard Williams she was faking it! I wouldn’t have helped her either 🤷🏽♀️
they were wise to her bullshit
Cause she's younger and prettier.
Yes, feminism would go a long way if powerful women weren't worse than powerful men.
She was trying it on, men are so easy to fool 😂
Jenny - I don’t use wheelchairs, therefore I’m up and about.
Jenny has 2 strapping lads at home who could take her OUT
Up and OUT*
Wtf lol
How careless
They teach you the "Im gonna pass out" tactic in uni, at distinction level. Its a good tool for diversion apparently
That's diversity for you.
Lmaooo! No they dooooont! 😂 😂
It also means if they dont invest in her, she can make money by going to the papers and tarnishing their names for putting a poor, helpless little girl in a wheelchair, by being too mean. Notice the offers she racked up after returning. What a great student
Well, it worked 🤷🏼♂️
Be afraid - be very scared when Peter Jones start asking the questions. The rest of the dragons rely on him to unveil the skeletons from all these entrepreneurs.
He is the oldest dragon, I was wondering the pitchers dont bring a calculator when entering
I cannot stop laughing at her being wheeled out in the wheelchair holding the banana😭
Poor girl probably felt mortified but now has investors and now probably can laugh about it.
I feel bad for Tej and Touker they never win against the older dragons
Touker is pushing 70 he’s the oldest one there
@@rabd9881 he means they’ve been on the show longer
Because of the success of Levi Roots, people would pick Peter. At times i think Peter is too overrated. The participants should really think about which Dragon is more appropriate for their business. Tej is already established in the medical industry, he would definitely have helped her to advertise her product in the right places and Touker could have helped to drop cost of production (fabrics and all)
Last video I watched they were chosen over P&D by he creators of Pouch. Even Jenny was in with them, it was quite surreal.
@@vecust I agree
This could be argued as a medical need, so insurance will pay for it. Frankly, I think the idea is genius and I hope she succeeds!
yeah stinting the NHS always a good idea amirite?
Like a budgie with a blunt beak, born to succeed.
Insurance doesn't pay for anything. If you don't receive benefits, you buy everything yourself
Insurance usually finds an excuse not to pay out.
It depends which country you live in.
Medical aids and equipment are expensive, I think her pricing is about right. It's the kind of thing you buy once and hopefully lasts for many years.
They can be - but used mobility scooters priced at >£1000 sell far easier than £3500 new ones. So anyone bringing out a similar product to this for £100 would crash their sales
The look Tej and TS Gave each other when Peter gave his offer was more like “wtf brah” 🤣
imagine when they opened the elevator door she was passed out in a pile on the floor.
😂
What Corien said at the end was absolutely true that they try to break you then at the end they want you. Peter is the worst at this, he puts your business down and in the end he makes you an offer but he did it all in the guise of trying to get a better deal because he really likes it.
Peter is cunning, the moment he sense the business is too risky and many flaws he will try to eat the pitcher by asking a high equity stake, mind you, 10% is not an easy figure to simply hand over to an investor
I’m a medical device entrepreneur and it’s a lucrative market and I understand their interest. You need to know many top doctors across the globe, get an FDA, CE, and patents, patents, patents! Costs of manufacturing can be enormous. £75K will only cover the patent, if they can get it.
They probably will and go on to invest more and more until she’s left with 1% of a very successful business. I’ve learned my lesson…
He does it to get the other dragons out then snipes the deal at the end 😂
People do this with used cars, just point out every fault you find and then make them a low offer. Meet in the middle, happy days
@@audibleadventures9004 well yeah you pretend you don't like the car and give a low offer so you will "take it anyway" if you show you really like the car the seller is going to give a high price
This was such B.S. She couldn't even forcast future sales and ducked out of the situation with black out excuse. Still had 4 dragon offers. I think Jenny might have been accurate in her assessment.
Standing in front of 4 business tycons who are grilling you, having cameras on you and knowing the fact that you messed things up. She had Disabling anxiety I am sure you would have peed in your pants.
@@ammadkhan2085 First of all you do not know me personally. No need to talk bullshit. People with such difficulties can come prepared with written data on a sheet. Use your brain man or are you still thinking from elsewhere?
I agree, this just goes to show the privilege pretty women have, any other entrepreneur would be crucified and shamed out of there. Not to mention selling a product that improves quality of life for disabled people at such a high margin is disgusting.
@@kazimraza6278 they aren’t allowed notes though, the figures have to be from memory
@@myopicthunder yeah, it’s completely unethical in my book
At least she had a wheelchair nearby....
She damn showed she was a distinction student when she played that fainting trick and turned things around. Kudos!
She needed to go out and look at the famous sheet ;)
is that what they teach you at private school?
This just proves you can spend another 5 years in schooling can’t even beat experience
She also went from fashion to MBA which means she had no base knowledge to take on MBA although she says shes a distinction student. Seems like shes the type to get what she wants by crying
Fax
eh, she also got involved in an area that was not entirely related to what she studied at university. Had she kept on with her fashion plan, she would have done better.
@@RocksmithPdl And taking advantage of her looks. That wink she did 😜 before she walks in the den proved just that.
Jenny : She is way prettier than me and for that reason im out
Why did no one asked for Patents. if she has patents then its a completely different game
Yash Thakar cant patent when involving disabled wheelchair
@@harrysmith3495 i was not aware abt that law in UK.. thanks
All she needs now is patients and patience…😁
Yash Thakar they probably did, I’m sure some stuff gets cut
They probs did and she said yes and presented the patent and it wasn’t interesting so it was cut
Tej: Well its just shows how passionate we are about d..
Touker: ITS BECAUSE I DONT WANT YOU TO HAVE IT!
XD
You can tell Debra and Jenny knows she’s faking it
They should allow entrepreneurs to bring their notes during a pitch.
That’s no fun.
Haha, I laughed so hard when I saw all the guys running to her to help like knights xD
Her then wheeled out with a banana was the cherry on the top. Pure comedy gold.
So true
Having low blood sugar is a pain tbh.. you rarely feel it coming on.. then next minute your dripping in sweat and out for the count in about 5 minutes 😬
I had a really bad one while on the A roads on my motorbike
. Took me an hour to recover sat at side of the road 😴 😩
@@danielbriggs7110 Yes exactly that. I work outdoors and make sure I eat something every hour.
Getting wheeled out in her own wheelchair she brought. I'm DEAD. No way this wasn't scripted, or the universe knows irony.
What is ironic about that?
@@Funintherain13 Your face.
Touker: i wanted that...
the wheelchair or the blonde?
Both, he can fit them easily in his office space in London.
@@oz_jones touker time.....ohhhhhhh yeaahhh 😎
He obviously wanted to woo the blonde.
"Sit down here." So convenient they had a wheelchair at hand. 😆😆😆
I would love to view Jennys notebook after an episode 😂
Out looks funny when I write it like this OuT
"Reasons to be out:
1) I'm Jenny
2) She's a honor student
3) She didn't faint completely
4) I'm still Jenny...
68)"
I'm out I'm out I'm out I'm out I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out I'm out
It says
“
“
She just doodles that S thing we all used to in school whilst thinking of ways to be out
Jenny looks a bit silly when she is out early then everyone else is fighting for the deal
Its not about the business its the person she's investing in.
Don't like Jenny but she's spot on here
@Joy Georgina and yet it now retails for 850 - somewhat more than the 575 mentioned. It's not as cheap to make something like this. Its not a toy
She's actually smart as most new businesses fail. This will need a lot of work.
Doesn’t matter cuz Jenny is broke and has no money to invest anyway
Man, I know Deborah and Peter are the big names and anyone would be lucky to have them, but Touker and Tej were surely the better team. They were passionate and way better aligned. Touker wanted that badly. Deobrah's pitch was 'I know someone in a wheelchair!'
However I must admit if that was me I would have gone with Peter and Deborah :)
@@mmckenzie8085 You'd only be doing that because they're OG dragons and the bigger names, though, not because they were better suited.
Touker specialises in textiles and Tej specialises in the health/medical industry. They were clearly a better fit here and would have been the sensible move.
Yeah but Deborah and Peter are white
I agree, and touker really fought for it.
@@FolksFox Honesly, people NEVER choose Touker and Tej over Peter and/or Deborah. I would have in a heart beat gone with T&T
She got wheeled out eating a banana in literally her own wheelchair hahahahaha
Touker: "you should take my offer because your wheelchair needs free office space"
Me: oh no, Evan will make wheelchair puns
Evan: what's driving her ambition
Jenny holding on to her free water when the boys were offering theirs'.
Funny how both women stayed seated
Jenny telling her she didn't see her becoming a businesswoman to a masters student in business must have been a major blow.
When under pressure, pass out at your leisure 😉
Amd then the next thing you know the dragons are making you offers
Blood sugar levels mean something. I can see someone being too nervous to eat before so their blood sugar drops and then the black out.
😂😂😂😂😂 this just cracked me up
Maple Leaf Exactly! This is a pretty normal reaction to nerves/stress. It’s happened to me enough times. I don’t find it funny and don’t believe she faked it
@@rocketdolly69 Best of luck to the inner you to force some sugar in on moments like this :) Type of person I would carry an extra fruit bar or something just in case they needed it. I had a couple and 1 apprentice in particular that would almost faint every week due to low blood sugar so I would bring him treats... well played sir
Peter’s brain was in his pants on this one, I’ve never seen him invest in someone who didn’t know their numbers like that.
😂
Hahhahaha
He didn't care about the numbers cause he knew it will do well
U hear his kiss at the end
Lol I know this is late. But I felt all the men were attracted to her. I've seen a number of episodes where they rip people to shreds for not knowing their numbers
lmao this was hilarious, the way they forced her to pass out and surrounded her like a gang, and then she says her sugar levels are low, so she is wheeled out on her own product eating a banana.
The perfect pitch.
It's one of the tests you have to pass on Dragons Den.
12:35 I love how the music changes and the camera operator captures the faces of the rival dragons when a competing offer is made. Well done!
Jenny one minute after being born: let me tell you where I am I'm out.
😂😂😂
😂
I love how back then theyre saying "Thats pretty expensive" and talking about lowering the cost etc. Just checked it costs £750 now ahah
She's only interested in improving the lives of people on wheelchairs if they are middle or upper class.
They didn't invest tho
@@jimmyneutron129 That doesn't mean the business is over, it just means that the people on the show didn't invest. That doesn't stop others from investing and it doesn't mean the product will never be successful.🤦
@@stephanielee1261 Yes I know but then you can't blame them if the product is more expensive if they were not implicated
8:10 she was seeing all black, but suddenly can see where to sit down and turns that way.
She's obviously lying.
The 2 ladies not buying it
I agree, something like that often happens to me. My sugar will drop and I either pass out very quickly, or I have to sit/lean against something and 1 of 2 things happen: I either stop talking (because I literally can’t see or hear anything) or I become incoherent. I could tell she wasn’t really “blacking out”. Maybe slightly dizzy due to her blood pressure going up, but not blacking out
I bet she pretended she was fainting so she could sneak a quick look at the sheet where she wrote all the figures down 😂
The rivalry between Touker and Peter is hilarious 🤣 they’re always tryna snake each other 😆
TOUKAAAA TIME. fk Peter
Peter: How do you come to a valuation of half a million?
Corien: I see black.
Thanks for recapping what happened midway through the pitch, although the title already gave that part away. I'd still advise people to watch the whole video, though.
See Deborahs face. She thought it was put on. Cow
Classic business strategy: Enter room, tell everyone you're a distinction student, someone asks a question about money. "I'm sorry, I think I'm going to pass out. I only see black."
As long as it isn't red lol
Jenny was so nasty to this woman in this episode. Constantly reminding her she is a distinction student when that has absolutely nothing to do with her feeling the pressure of the den and forgetting her numbers, which isn’t ideal but is forgivable. I’m so glad they got her off the show, Jenny is a nasty woman who is just unnecessarily rude to entrepreneurs in the den, Sara Davies is such an amazing replacement.
It's so cool how the only time I see someone about to pass out on the show, they happened to have their own wheelchair.
„It‘s like they’re trying to break you“
He literally just asked her the numbers, smh
14:18
"'Cuase I don't want you to have it!"
Given how many deals Peter has snatched away, that is probably the truest statement Touker has said in quite a while 😆
Can’t remember my numbers, hang on, let me pass out so I can go outside and remember them!
All the men rush forward hoping that they can be the one that resuscitates her.
Or is it you David 😂
😂😂😂 she faked to faint in order to avoid questions 🤣🤣🤣 quick look at her paperwork and here she returns.
exactly my thoughts
@@grease_monkey6078 yeah I don’t know what it is like to faint but isn’t it, it’s blurred vision, and than you might drop on the floor, she just went from completely fine to seeing black whaat,
Respect her tho, clever move
I’ve genuinely hit the deck before and bounced back pretty quick. It depends on the cause.
And yeah, sometimes you can pretty much see it coming and go “I’m gonna pass out” right before you do.
Jenny “hears the elevator on its way up” I’m out
🤣
🤣😂
Jenny: You're a distinction student, therefore, I'm out