I put this battery in my 2015 Ultra limited last year and its been great. I run 2 800 watt amps on mids and highs, plus I have the PPI subs in each bag which are 300 watts each and I run led under carriage lights and this thing handles it like a champ. It cranks the engine like no other as well. I have been more than happy with it.
I want to thank you for the detail and demo of the Titan 8. I just completed the swap out of the OEM 27 lb battery from my Street Glide 2024. I replaced it with the RSV-S5-30Q at 10 lbs. I chose the RSV as my main passion is long trips hence away from any tender. I was apprehensive due to the mind numbing vids on DO NOT GET a lithium for the 2024 SG or RG. HD, as you know, will not list their HD lithium as being compatible with my series. After much review and research I decided that the LTO has all the technical spec to take the task on. The Lithium Ion which I had successfully used on my sport bikes clearly does not have the reserve capacity. On start up with a full battery the voltmeter jumps to 13.8v than quickly settles at 14v at 1000 rpm. At 2000 rpm and up the voltmeter settles rock steady at 14.25v . As a full charge maintenance of the battery when riding any bike needs 13.8v.the result is very satisfactory. I completed a 350 mile road trip with many stop starts and all the infotainment and Nav in use. On return on hook up to my HD 1 amp lithium charger 30 min later the green light was on. Many HD tubers remain skeptical due to some "unknown" reason why the 2024 series "does not charge" the lithium battery. For my part your information brings into light the fact that this is a suitability battery issue not a bike issue. Of note is the fact that the OEM battery operated differently On start up the voltmeter jumped to 14.75 v and would remain there for several hours and then would reduce to 14.25V. Any thoughts on why? I did find fascinating that the voltmeter display shows a range of between 8 v to 16v. The RED sections are 8 v to 10v and again between 15v to 16v. This implies that all reading between 10 v and 15 v are in the "acceptable" range. The fact is, at below 13.8 v charging the bike cannot hold a full battery charge and over and extended trip, will finally exhaust. I would be most interested if anyone has run a Lithium ION battery on the 2024 and can talk to the voltmeter reading experienced.
I have this sane battery in 3 new body style bikes, 2 23.5 cvo models and a 24 base model. My base model charges near 15 volts. I think the regulator is inconsistent or is varying based on battery charge level. I also recommend a 5 amp or larger lithium tender for this size battery
@@volunteeraudio Thank you so much for the comments. I do know XS specifies on its warranty an exclusion for Overcharge above 14.5V for 12V models but then I guess you knew this referencing the 15 v excessive charge. My 24 base puts out max 14.25v. and will vary lower depending on: RPM. 13.8 v - 14V at 1000 RPM and 14.25 v above 2500 RPM. BTW I do have a 5 amp lithium charger thanks for the tip.
@@hollywoodboggie those warranty specs are generic for all batteries, the lithium titanate rest at 13.6 when charged, 15volts is not excessive for this battery
Jay do you have to do a warm-up time with the key on and wait for a while for the lithium batteries to warm up before you could start the bike all the videos I seen on lithium batteries i.e. the Harley bat and stuff they say that you have to have the key on for a few minutes to warm up the battery before you can even start the bike and the videos show that they have to do several attempts and it cranks over very slowand sometimes don’t even start off the lithium battery. Does these batteries start like a normal battery? You just turn the key on and hit the start button without warm-up time.
I have charged my Titan 8 with the normal agm battery tender and it took battery up to 14.2 volts. If i used the lithium charger would that not take it up even higher? The manual says 100% charged is 13.6 and not to exceed this votage. Would this not damage the battery?
Hey Jay, Would Harleys tender/charger work fine with these? (They do have a lithium setting.) With the claimed life and cost, do these batteries have a warranty?
Yes you should use a battery tender and the lithium setting will give you the longest life from the battery, xs power warranties all their lithium batteries for 1 year. Even though they will last way past 1 year lithium batteries are not meant to be fully discharged and if repeatedly fully discharged you can damage the battery from abuse so they give a 1 year warranty
So what's the deal? Are lithium batteries better or worse for bikes specifically with audio systems installed? Friend of mine picked up a Lithium battery and was told that the AGM battery was better.
@@volunteeraudio I get it but "good" is subjective. You could have a good battery at a cost that isn't what Titan8 is selling theirs for. The question I had specifically though is in regards to lithium in general vs. the stock AGM batteries. Her audio person told her that the AGM battery was better than lithium as a whole.
Stock AGM battery is 30ah Titan Reserve - Ah Pb Eq 60 (10ah actual) Titan Power - Ah Pb Eq - 30 (10ah actual) This would work out to 2x and 1x useable capacity. How did you get to 4x and 8x capacity ?
The stock battery claims 400 cca but tests at 330, claims 28 ah also but is closer to 20, the ah ph eq number is the correct number to compare between the batteries, the titan 8 batteries recharge extremely fast, rest at a higher voltage and have way higher cranking amps, this is how we come up with these numbers. Lithium phosphate recharge at 3-4 times faster than agm, lithium titanate recharges are 3-4 times faster than lithium phosphate
Lithium batteries are NOT recommended for the 24 and up models. It will create big problems. This is per Harley Davidson and it says right on the description of the lithium battery Harley sells. I’m copying and pasting from their website below 👇🏼 Fits ’04-later Touring (except ’23-later FLHXSE, FLTRXSE and '24-later FLHX, FLTRX and FLTRXSTSE) and ’09-later Trike models.
@@rodrigomoreno80 this is based on the lithium ion battery that Harley sells, it is too small and only 8amp hours, our battery is lithium titanate which is a better tech and much stronger with 20+ amp hours. This bulletin only applies to the terrible Harley lithium the dealer sells
@@volunteeraudiocheck this video out. Apparently the guy called Harley Davidson, and I believe that too because he is very in tune with Harleys and the community 2024 Harley Davidson street glide (the hidden danger of lithium ion batteries)
Thanks for providing the steps for replacing the battery and providing a great option for the battery!
@@reginaldmayberry384 thank you!
I put this battery in my 2015 Ultra limited last year and its been great. I run 2 800 watt amps on mids and highs, plus I have the PPI subs in each bag which are 300 watts each and I run led under carriage lights and this thing handles it like a champ. It cranks the engine like no other as well. I have been more than happy with it.
Thank you!
I want to thank you for the detail and demo of the Titan 8. I just completed the swap out of the OEM 27 lb battery from my Street Glide 2024. I replaced it with the RSV-S5-30Q at 10 lbs. I chose the RSV as my main passion is long trips hence away from any tender. I was apprehensive due to the mind numbing vids on DO NOT GET a lithium for the 2024 SG or RG. HD, as you know, will not list their HD lithium as being compatible with my series. After much review and research I decided that the LTO has all the technical spec to take the task on. The Lithium Ion which I had successfully used on my sport bikes clearly does not have the reserve capacity. On start up with a full battery the voltmeter jumps to 13.8v than quickly settles at 14v at 1000 rpm. At 2000 rpm and up the voltmeter settles rock steady at 14.25v . As a full charge maintenance of the battery when riding any bike needs 13.8v.the result is very satisfactory. I completed a 350 mile road trip with many stop starts and all the infotainment and Nav in use. On return on hook up to my HD 1 amp lithium charger 30 min later the green light was on.
Many HD tubers remain skeptical due to some "unknown" reason why the 2024 series "does not charge" the lithium battery. For my part your information brings into light the fact that this is a suitability battery issue not a bike issue.
Of note is the fact that the OEM battery operated differently On start up the voltmeter jumped to 14.75 v and would remain there for several hours and then would reduce to 14.25V. Any thoughts on why?
I did find fascinating that the voltmeter display shows a range of between 8 v to 16v. The RED sections are 8 v to 10v and again between 15v to 16v. This implies that all reading between 10 v and 15 v are in the "acceptable" range. The fact is, at below 13.8 v charging the bike cannot hold a full battery charge and over and extended trip, will finally exhaust. I would be most interested if anyone has run a Lithium ION battery on the 2024 and can talk to the voltmeter reading experienced.
I have this sane battery in 3 new body style bikes, 2 23.5 cvo models and a 24 base model. My base model charges near 15 volts. I think the regulator is inconsistent or is varying based on battery charge level. I also recommend a 5 amp or larger lithium tender for this size battery
@@volunteeraudio Thank you so much for the comments. I do know XS specifies on its warranty an exclusion for Overcharge above 14.5V for 12V models but then I guess you knew this referencing the 15 v excessive charge. My 24 base puts out max 14.25v. and will vary lower depending on: RPM. 13.8 v - 14V at 1000 RPM and 14.25 v above 2500 RPM. BTW I do have a 5 amp lithium charger thanks for the tip.
@@hollywoodboggie those warranty specs are generic for all batteries, the lithium titanate rest at 13.6 when charged, 15volts is not excessive for this battery
@@volunteeraudio Thanks much for clarifying. Love my battery.
A normal charging device such a Harleys one, can maintain & charge that battery?
Yes it can, to get the longest life I recommend using a tender that has a lithium setting
Jay do you have to do a warm-up time with the key on and wait for a while for the lithium batteries to warm up before you could start the bike all the videos I seen on lithium batteries i.e. the Harley bat and stuff they say that you have to have the key on for a few minutes to warm up the battery before you can even start the bike and the videos show that they have to do several attempts and it cranks over very slowand sometimes don’t even start off the lithium battery. Does these batteries start like a normal battery? You just turn the key on and hit the start button without warm-up time.
I have this battery and it does not require any warm up. It cranks like a CHAMP right away every time. Just turn the key and hit the start button.
Only time you may need warm up is below freezing
I have charged my Titan 8 with the normal agm battery tender and it took battery up to 14.2 volts. If i used the lithium charger would that not take it up even higher? The manual says 100% charged is 13.6 and not to exceed this votage. Would this not damage the battery?
Your battery will always be higher in voltage right after charge but will level out to the stated voltage
Why would you take the positive off first and leave everything grounded?
Why not, either way you are breaking the circuit
is the factory charging system able to maintain and charge the Titan 8?
Absolutely
Hey Jay,
Would Harleys tender/charger work fine with these? (They do have a lithium setting.)
With the claimed life and cost, do these batteries have a warranty?
Yes you should use a battery tender and the lithium setting will give you the longest life from the battery, xs power warranties all their lithium batteries for 1 year. Even though they will last way past 1 year lithium batteries are not meant to be fully discharged and if repeatedly fully discharged you can damage the battery from abuse so they give a 1 year warranty
I’m assuming it’s because you pulled main fuse but still. Was always taught to disconnect ground first.
They teach ground because it will not arc if it contacts metal, either way gives the same result
yes i have notice that the new bikes are voltage sensitive
Very
So what's the deal? Are lithium batteries better or worse for bikes specifically with audio systems installed? Friend of mine picked up a Lithium battery and was told that the AGM battery was better.
Good lithium battery’s are much better but also expensive, the titan8 tech is the best lithium tech out there
@@volunteeraudio I get it but "good" is subjective. You could have a good battery at a cost that isn't what Titan8 is selling theirs for.
The question I had specifically though is in regards to lithium in general vs. the stock AGM batteries. Her audio person told her that the AGM battery was better than lithium as a whole.
Why won’t this battery fit the 2023 Road Glide Limited?
It does
Stock AGM battery is 30ah
Titan Reserve - Ah Pb Eq 60 (10ah actual)
Titan Power - Ah Pb Eq - 30 (10ah actual)
This would work out to 2x and 1x useable capacity.
How did you get to 4x and 8x capacity ?
The stock battery claims 400 cca but tests at 330, claims 28 ah also but is closer to 20, the ah ph eq number is the correct number to compare between the batteries, the titan 8 batteries recharge extremely fast, rest at a higher voltage and have way higher cranking amps, this is how we come up with these numbers. Lithium phosphate recharge at 3-4 times faster than agm, lithium titanate recharges are 3-4 times faster than lithium phosphate
@@volunteeraudiocharging speed sure. Still does not workout to either 4-8x capacity
Cost of each ???
We added links in the description to each
Would I have an issue starting with this battery if I stayed in a hotel and left the bike outside in let’s say 30 degrees?
Would the 24’ road glide potentially overcharge the lithium battery while riding all day?
@@norsmanadventures no, the voltage regulator controls charging
Lithium batteries are NOT recommended for the 24 and up models. It will create big problems. This is per Harley Davidson and it says right on the description of the lithium battery Harley sells.
I’m copying and pasting from their website below 👇🏼
Fits ’04-later Touring (except ’23-later FLHXSE, FLTRXSE and '24-later FLHX, FLTRX and FLTRXSTSE) and ’09-later Trike models.
@@rodrigomoreno80 this is based on the lithium ion battery that Harley sells, it is too small and only 8amp hours, our battery is lithium titanate which is a better tech and much stronger with 20+ amp hours. This bulletin only applies to the terrible Harley lithium the dealer sells
@@volunteeraudiocheck this video out. Apparently the guy called Harley Davidson, and I believe that too because he is very in tune with Harleys and the community
2024 Harley Davidson street glide (the hidden danger of lithium ion batteries)
Has this been clarified or validated @volunteeraudio ? I also so the video mentioned in the comment below