Roman fencing - Protection and attack technique
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Hi everyone!
I apologize in advance for errors in the English language, which I'm just beginning to learn =)
This video demonstrates roman fighting stances. For the base we took metops from Trophy of Trajan ...
Many years of experience of using these stances in our club Legio V Macedonica (Russia) allow us to tell about its advantages and specific.
This stance is very useful when enemy is pressing you, attacking actively, pricking by sword, spear or shield, hacking, trying to break the line.
1. Torso is half-turned, shield lays on the calf muscle and the shoulder, also it is handed by handle inside.
As everybody knows, muscles soften hits and protect bones. The knee is turned inside, head is in some distance from shield.
2. In this stance, as i said, shield lays on the outer side of leg, it excludes any possibility of its thrust on the knee.
If your knee is touching shield or simply looks forward, then in case of hit trauma is very possible.
3. If leg will be turned forward trauma of tibia also is possible, because it is unprotected by muscles. If you played football, have tried karate, or taekwondo, then you know that hit to this part of leg is very painful. Legs armor are not used by most of reenactors.
Lets demonstrate basic methods of protection and attack.
4. Attack to leg by spear. When leg is turned - it is easy to put down the shield and close vulnerable zone.
In advanced variant you can even up your leg and knock out the spear by shield.
If your toe looks forward, your foot protrudes under the shield. In this case you can't neither down the shield nor protect your knee, because the shield will lie on it.
5. Attacking leg by shield. The foot is parallel to the shield, it is very difficult for enemy to aim it. If your foot is looking forward - it's much easier.
6. Attack to head by sword. There is no necessity to swing because your hand is already in the position for attack - you just need to throw it ahead and to turn your torso, it will fasten your attack.
In the beginning the sword is hidden behind the shield for enemy could not see start of attack.
7. When enemy attacks you to a head by sword. There is some distance between a shield and a head, so it is more difficult for enemy to get you.
Bend your knees and close yourself by shield.
If you can't protect your head by shield - in case if enemy blocked it or you just closed your foot off the attack - you have a chance to turn your head off and save your face by protection of helmet. You can turn it right and enemy will hit you into bridle or back part of helmet.
8. Attack to a head by spear. We do the same thing - bend our knees, protect by shield and turn off our head.
9. Dangerous type of attack in reenactment - attack by shield. Such hit can be performed by flat side or just by bottom edge.
Shield weights about 8-10 kilos plus movement by hand and torso - it is very serious combination.
When we participate in different shows we don't use such hits usually.
But It is very effective in real fight, we are trying not to hit in full force, but it's not always possible.
When you in adrenalin of fight, your hit can be very strong and it is not safe.
That is why you should be ready and don't lean your head to a shield otherwise your head will get all the force of the hit.
This stance allows to take a part of hit force by a shoulder and another part to take away.
I hope our video will be useful for you and allow to avoid different troubles.
Thank you for your attention.
We wish you fine, safe and qualitative reenactment!
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Its hard to defeat an enemy if it basically holding a freaking door
😂😂u are rightly
The door like shield is effective only if you have comrades beside you otherwise 1vs1 a smaller lighter one is better
@@geroutoru865 Incorrect, have you ever tried medieval combat? Large shields are a pain in the ass to fight.
@@chadsigmarson673 we talking real life here,the lighter quicker you are the more advantage you got
@@GGman2019 and I ask again, have you done medieval combat in real life? I have, we have a lot here where I live, northern europe. I trained with a group that focused on early viking warfare for the most part. One of my sparring partners was very short, for reference I am like 6'3, or 190 cm, he was a good head or so smaller. That small frame combined with a large, round, era authentic roundshield is a horrible combo. The large shield did not hinder his commendable agility at all, he is well trained and moves with it like it's nothing, really interesting stuff. If you have an interest in real medieval sports I can only recommend you join local HEMA groups like that.
I'm brazilian and I love your english, it's pretty cool! I hope you continue to post videos in english too! Cheers from Brazil!
Dont forget,a Limes its provisional military border
Awesome... Very interesting.
Hey is it legal to walk around with one of these for self defense?
no wonder Roman has great military. Their training education video is quite comprehensive.
Bruh hahaha
Roman RUclips Circa 52 BCE. Or at most, Circa 117 AD.
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Great video...awesome to see in action
Man its fun being able to see this comment. I can still remember when you were a guy i knew just from comments. Now your channel is getting bigger and bigger. Love your stuff man always quality. I was really impressed when i learned you did the artwork yourself. Keep grinding man!
I agree with you 👏👏this video is simple and easy to understand..basic stuff but it made sense ..
I’m a college history professor, I specialize in military and naval history. This is an Excellent video, great work
Thank you a lot =)
metatron has made a video about this video both i like good work do please more in english
Thank you, we will try)
thanks allready 4 all the upcoming videos
Just found your channel after trying to teach my 3 year old son to train with his gladius.
You are a good father my friend. God bless you both !
That's good parenting.
“They take our sons and turn them into little Romans, HA!”
Do you son participate Agoge in age 7?
@@kelvinho2475 He is my firstborn son, so he is exempt from agoge :).
Sorry for not replying to everyone else in the thread I never saw the notification, thanks and have a happy new year all.
Superb! Best instructional video on the use of gladius and scutum I've seen so far! Subscribed!
Amazing instructions for use of Gladius and Scutum. It is very clear from this video how biomechanics of the Roman infantry way of fighting was superior. Good protection of shoulder legs and head. While attack and direction of the Gladius is hidden until it emerges from behind the shield surprising the opponent.
"We are trying not to hit in full force, but it is not always possible"
*Lots of memories triggered haha!
^_^
Hello from Australia. Fantastic video I really enjoyed it. I think many people are really interested to see the actual techniques and how effective they may or may not be rather than the dull history type lesson. It is a chance to get an insight in to the combat reality for a roman soldier.
Also your English is good I could understand everything and I really hope you can continue to do more videos in English ( or include subtitles ) and on these types of practical combat experiments, very interesting congratulations and thanks for posting.
The concealment of gladius behind the shield is already a fine ingenuity of the Roman mind, this is so great
Thanks for posting this, and good work with the english! Perfectly understandable and informative. :)
straight really, absolutely nothing is understandable because of my accent? :(
Legio V Macedonica I'm serious, the English is great. Understood everything.
Ok, thank you a lot))
Legio V Macedonica don't worry. most people have strong accents when speaking english. And I actually like the slavic accent. very interesting video btw. :)
Thank you a lot)
That’s the most realistic ancient/ medieval combat I have seen. The blows etc are delivered with intent. Something sadly lacking in most videos.
Nice, more videos in English! Cheers from Sweden :)
Excellent reenactment and attention to detail. I'm sure Emperor Traianus would agree.
Thank you a lot!
Nice work guys
Vobis gratias and Spaseba, Legio Mac! This was a very practical and realistic presentation of Roman legionary fighting with gladius and scutum.
2:18
pov: you got one shot at life and you became a healthy male from gaul born in the year 80 bc
Metatron
See you again!
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amazing
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ROMA INVICTA
Excellent stuff.
I am thankful you made the video in English, I could not understand your previous work.
когда твоя английский очень сильно кровать)
Видое хорошее, смотреть было интересно и английский был в общем понятный за одним исключением. У меня была проблема с пониманием слова "hit", ведь на протяжении 3 минут я слышал слово "heat" и только под конец понял что это было за слово. Так что я бы предложил вам в будущем использовать слово "strike", его и перепутать сложнее, и звучит по моему лучше. А так мне все понравилось, буду и впредь смотреть ваши видео (скажем спасибо за это Метатрону))
спасибо, учтем)
This technique is still used in modern boxing to avoid thrusting punches or incoming hooks, you flip the head and the punch basically doesn't touch your chin similar to the flip of the helmet hear that avoids the cutting blow from the gladius above. 2:45
Molte grazie, spasibo....
Ciao frater!!! I come from a latin speaking people in the Balkans, We are descendants of Legio V Macedonica. Other balkan peoples call us cincari (meaning "those from the fifth"), and the Romanians call us Macedoni (derived from the Macedonian Legion). We call ourselves Aromani (meaning "from Romans"). Unfortunately, not many speak our language among youngsters. We proudly held highest ranks among the leading figures of the Greek War of Independence. We mostly live in Greece, Albania, and Serbia. For example, some of our famous surnames; Koletti, Zappa, Bulgari (the famous designers), Averoff (from original Augeri), Buttari etc. Common surnames in my region include; Cotta (remember Julius Caesar's mother was named Cotta, after her father's surname?), Nasica (remember Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica?), Gianni, Dimarelli, Capurani, Disho, Vongoli, Paka, Caraggio, Scupra, We number about 300,000 in Greece only, estimated more than half a million in four countries, those assimilated not included). My village is named Furka (or Fourka, as commonly known in Greece). Ave frater!!!
That was really interesting. I have always thought a small shield would be great because how dextrous it make the soldier but, this has highlighted why after centuries of military development civilisations have large shields.
That's why the Gladius was so effective and worked during Ancient Rome and the perfect primary weapon for the Roman Legion Cause it gave them different advantages on the battlefield and it was perfect for close quarters combat and during solo fighting to kill your enemy to keep you alive cause your enemies will do anything to kill and tear out your throat so it was perfect for Survival during campaign and conquest and worked perfectly when the Roman Legion had to fight together to overcome and destroy an Enemy of Rome
The Scutum was the perfect Shield for the Roman soldier for its protectiveness and it's offense advantages and defense advantages on the battlefield
Gloriam et e Legionibus lecti profilgate. Honore Legioni V Macedonica.
Ciao frater!!! I come from a latin speaking people in the Balkans, We are descendants of Legio V Macedonica. Other balkan peoples call us cincari (meaning "those from the fifth"), and the Romanians call us Macedoni (derived from the Macedonian Legion). We call ourselves Aromani (meaning "from Romans"). Unfortunately, not many speak our language among youngsters. We proudly held highest ranks among the leading figures of the Greek War of Independence. We mostly live in Greece, Albania, and Serbia. For example, some of our famous surnames; Koletti, Zappa, Bulgari (the famous designers), Averoff (from original Augeri), Buttari etc. Common surnames in my region include; Cotta (remember Julius Caesar's mother was named Cotta, after her father's surname?), Nasica (remember Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica?), Gianni, Dimarelli, Capurani, Disho, Vongoli, Paka, Caraggio, Scupra, We number about 300,000 in Greece only, estimated more than half a million in four countries, those assimilated not included). My village is named Furka (or Fourka, as commonly known in Greece). Ave frater!!!
Thank You for your exhibition!!
great job, guys! love the explanation! looking forward to more content in english.
It’s fascinating how we are still studying Roman combat tactics like these today
Was looking for something like this, thanks!
За видос конечно лайк...но уж лучше англ.субтитры пустили..а то своим английским он либо дождь вызовет, либо Сатану🤣🤣🤣
You, and we, are better off if you stick to your own language. At least you will be understood by someone. In English, I couldn’t make out a word you said.
(Edit) After all that, it was still a very interesting, and instructional video. I particularly enjoyed the demonstrations of the actors. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I tried)
In the end, I decided that it would be better to add the translation with subtitles, and speak my own language.
Please tell me, what country are you from, what is your version of English? I know that even many people with native English, but with different dialects, have difficulty understanding each other)
I designed bullet resistant police riot shields, as well armor for vehicles and helicopters.
This is a great video for riot police to study and development tactics from.
The Romans ruled for 1000 years due these combat tactics.
Well done sirs!
wow awesome! Please more tactic videos from the roman soldiers :)
Thanks for your feedback! we have a lot of videos on the channel, you can choose)
I tried hard to understand what he was talking about...
вам там метатрон видосик в ответ сделал ruclips.net/video/ldm61zS0CMQ/видео.html
Да, спасибо, напишу ответ :)
1:33 That's no ordinary legionarie, he's also a shinobi, look how he uses Mikiri Counter!
Lmao nice my shinobi friend, now he just needs to lose one of his arm.
Very cool video, good job with your English pronounciation. Great work! I'm subscribing!👌
Thank you)
Why I've got the feeling that I'm keeping pressing the replay button?
this is very good.
Love the Romans
Я вижу......я вижу твой русский :) всегда поражался какой легкий английский когда его произносят четко а не как омериканцы (будто с х.....во рту)
спасибо за видос.
Your scutum looks like it has been used in real battles, I like that.
Spaseba rossiya
I always wonder how they keep holding shield when struck by heavy kinetic attack with that single hand grab. Many of shields has two holding points, hand grab and other(like wrist holder), but Roman's doesn't. Can you give me an answer or suggest me any video about roman shield technique?
for example ruclips.net/video/MyJ4VjtoUKs/видео.html
@@LegioVMacedonica ah~~ I get it now. It's a broad shield so can lean on other body parts such as shoulder or knee. And hand hold cap is metal so can make a punching attack on the opponent.
Everytime I watching movie about the Roman Empire, this question always popped up. Now I get it.
Thank you for the answer. From South Korea. 좋은 자료 고마워요 ^^
Wow, great video. Love to see those shields in action.
Buen trabajo!
INCREIBLE PRIMERA VES QUE VEO COMO LUCHAVAN DE VERDAD LOS ROMANOS SU EQUIPO MILITAR TIENE COHERENCIA CON LA FORMA DE LUCHA NO COMO LAS PELICULAS HOLIGUDENSES
Thanks this video was very useful. Im on my way to Teutoburg forest, wish me luck
I've been reading a novel about St Georgius during the late 3rd century and got curious about roman culture, right now i'm surprised of how thoughtful the shield design was, i'm starting to understand how the legionnaires - legionnaires used these types of shields, right ? I know there were a lot of different types of soldiers with different equipment - became so famous for their equipment and efficiency. You guys keep the good work
thank you for the good review
video was incredibly helpful, thank you!
“Roman fencing. What I think it looked like”. That’s the proper title. Fact is we don’t know for sure and can only hypothesize, based on the shapes of weapons. There is no manual to reference.
Amazing content and tactics of roman legions Greetings from Macedonia Greece 🇬🇷❤❤
Such a pity that RUclips wasn't available to the roman army in the 400 AD...With this tutorial, the empire would've lasted much longer.... :)
Excellent to figt infantry, but not good to fight cavalry
For me, the Middle Ages were a period of regression.
I was interested in the way of life of the ancient Romans,
and their subtlety of existence, their incredibly modern architectural and medical sciences,
their military techniques, their political institutions, blew me away.
A gallo-roman.
I agree.
A daco-roman.
i like how he braces the shield with the point of the gladious
A great video one of the best on this subject. Cheers
thank you a lot
More like this please!
This tutorial could have been useful to a soldier from 2000 years ago
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Lower Kaluga accent.)))
Against a polearm, you might use this defensive stance. However, you would not survive for even a moment against someone standing with sword leg forward. The offensive stance actually is much more effective.
Watching this for time travel possibility just incase you know? 😅
what if a legionary is left handed? wouldn't that ruin their formation?
the Romans made no exceptions for left-handers, they had to fight like everyone else, holding a sword in their right hand
@@LegioVMacedonica wouldn't that be a mistake? like forcing someone to use their non dominant hand would make them a weak link in the entire army?
Great job guys!
Facing one well-trained Roman legionnaire is quite a task.
Facing entire lines of them, with more shield than person in view...THAT's facing the odds.
I Can Suggest that the Modern Riot police 🚔Shield 🛡can be made of the Same Dimensions of the Roman era soldier Shield as shown above.
Excellent work.
I personally don't like romans but this is reliable technique. I understand it.
В данном случае лучше использовать слово "defence", а не "protection". Для стойки в фехтовании принято использовать guard - для защиты, posture - для нападения.
I saw this video and the first thing i saw after 0:30 - You said 'the stance is important' - yes but this is the WRONG stance. Look on his foot! The Foot has to be BEHIND his shield. If he stands that way you can hit him easily. You 'hold the shield' with your knee. Not with your downleg.
Excellent demonstration. Now I just need to get myself a Scutum
I love learning about historic fighting styles, but the constant demands and whining from people demanding for more accurate sword play makes me want to shoot myself in the foot. I'm glad you didn't bring up anything about bad examples from movies.
I love your accent man,i understand everything and yet the accent is very defined,maybe because i speak german. Even though this is not german.
His feet position in fighting stance looks like the one used in boxing . Perfect 50 to 50 weight distribution between the two feet and perfect for footwork and maximize striking power with the arms. It is not a case that most of romans strike were thrust (wich techniques remind that of a jab or a cross)
The instructions I need I'm my school research best info I had Also nice accent though 👌👍👌
I think metatron kind of wrong in this time. I mean... Roman strategy was meant to be fought in rows like wall. So if the "wall" meant to withstand barbarian's wave, they had to support the impact with their shoulder not their arm, just like in american football.
Lovely friendly smack there:
3:39
With a greave on at least the forward leg, a forward posture of the leading leg is not only possible but recommended. Exposing the side like this is a little bit dangerous to giving in to pressure from the soldier's left diagonal side, and also to have the back of the leg split open. But the shield is good at defending low with a small movement. Just wanted to caveat that Roman greaves often to not wrap around the entire shin, and thus are literally designed to protect mostly the front of the shin, so if you are wearing one, you alter this stance on the front leg.
step 1: stab
step 2: stab again
You see the Romans really skipped all the extra bits about combat and got right to the point. They pretty much won via logistics and good training.
Beeing pushed to the ground by a shield while you attack, on a battlefield while that roman is in a formation.. thats a death sentence
Wonderful! commentary in English, thank you. It is amazing to watch how the men training use a real sword but never injure their comrade.
I like roman legion but I like Greek hoplite too if you like Greek hoplite with you make the Greek hoplite video
2.50 is a stupid technique cause he can cut your face simply with the turning of the sword
Thanks so much. Perfect, love it.
Good stuff
Greeves, would protect from tibia trauma.
At 2:16 you can see the exact moment you get transferred to Elysium
Usefull for survive fight with Zombies =)
Guys , eye protection... if u stab 1000 times ur friend near the eye. One time it will hit.
Roman punch, Roman kick, Roman leap, Roman things
Why do you need a shield? Tires don't fight back
my favorites are roman gladius and egyptian khopesh and turkish yatagan and greek kopis pursian kilj and napoleonic saber and taledo sword rapier most favorite turkish yatagan its the only sword that beat the gladius dont put it on you tube not knowing what your doing than use fake move to beat it against a gladius you would be a coward