Paying off the mortgage suggestion
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Allegedly Dave joins me today to discuss an idea to help people pay off their mortgages using the same techniques banks and building societies arrange with us, legal and lawful.
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#mortgage #repayments #money
The game needs to be over, well over. .. maybe THIS time around, we all do indeed, wake up...
Guests are getting better. Allegedly Dave is ace.
My house is paid for. That is a start. However the gov can claim compulsory purchases, without any reason. Failing that they'll make something up if they really want it.
That's the frightening part of it the CPO's, if everybody did this they'd find a way to screw us over. They do however come with restrictions such as, if they're building say a new bypass or a hospital or something that your property is in the way of doing so, compensation has to be paid as well, sitting there demanding more money would be were the CPO comes into it. Then again this could all be changed by our unscrupulous and corrupt politicians.
Place a restriction on it will make it harder for them
@@e-bikesquared they can place a CO but only on the ‘property’ on UK ‘soil’ as that is in UK jurisdiction.
They cannot take the ‘land’ as that is owned by the creator and is for everyone. Only a Man can lay claim to the land, but never own it outright as you cannot technically ‘own’ land.
Any Government agency can claim legal title to the ‘property’ as the ‘property’ is on UK ‘soil’ and therefore in their jurisdiction.
But only a Man can lay claim to the land, and no man can launch another claim without good cause. If so, the evidence will be presented in a Law court.
It is a matter of claiming the land and all legal titles that sit on top of the land for yourself to keep all other claims at bay.
As I understand it, the issue with energy companies that bill us is that they do not produce any energy to sell us. They are purely billing agents (i.e.middle men) however; what they are actually doing is to sell us debt but they are not registered with the Financial Conduct Authority as credit agencies and are therefore acting illegally/unlawfully. Also, they do not own the meters in your home or that are attached to it (external meters).
They don't generate electricity or produce gas but they do buy it from the generating companies like power stations or gas importers...50% of UK gas is imported on ships from Norway,Russia and the U.S.Then they sell it on to us the consumers.Just like most retail trade.Typically the energy suppliers like Octopus end up with just 6% of the income from bills.
@@eskertoo
A couple of minor points, the UK doesn't import gas from Russia anymore and the vast majority (98%) of Norwegian gas is delivered by pipe.
My point too. They don’t own the meters?!?! So why are people changing their meters? Def say no to smart meters as that’s more control (forget the radiation as it’s everywhere) it’s about controlling us but why change the meters
@@eskertooactually that’s bs because they triple dip mostly. Do they got paid. A statement is allegation. It’s pre paid
@@Lisa_M_V
People changing their meters without permission of the supplier is the same as energy theft. It will result in a forced entry visit and a forced fitting of a pre-payment meter. Energy is not pre-paid, the suppliers buy energy on the wholesale market from traders and producers.
Great to see Allegedly Dave again. When he mentioned that a mortgage is a promissory note, it makes total sense. The paper is literally a bank note with a face value that they use as cash.
All banknotes are a kind of Promissory Note...but not all Promissory Notes are banknotes!
Banknotes are backed by the treasury,A Promissory Note written by Joe Bloggs is merely a piece of paper which nobody is legally bpound to accept.And it has no face value .Anybody who imagines in their wildest dreams that such a note can settle a mortgage of maybe £200,000 needs to give their head a wobble!
@@eskertoo As one poster put it recently, a bank note is backed by the entire economy, a promissory note written by your average Vobes fan is backed by little more than black bin bags full of horded rubbish and banks of bottles of stale piss all labelled with the date of their creation
@@SirRogerHerwelllol try convincing Vobes’ mentally retarded, thick as pg 💩💩💩 fans otherwise 😂😂😂
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Michael Tellinger. I followed this chap to the letter. And It worked I paid off the electric bill by this time it was £2,203 or there about it was years ago. By the way, I got the local police to sign and whiteness me signing the promissory note. Then I sent it off to Scottish Power company by recorded delivery. job done. To my surprise, Scottish power sent me a letter of apology and they had written off the dept. if I ever had to prove it, I have copies of the written promissory note on my old computer. Many thanks to M.T. WHAT A GREAT MAN.
Yeah, of course you did 🙄
@@reggieperrin8415 he did just that, "ONLY in his tiny mind" LOL
A co conspirator then?😂😂😂
I recognise him from the balcony of the embassy siege and also as the real hero of the dambusters but the film is on my old cine camera
A promissory note is an AGREEMENT between 2 parties.Nobody has to accept such a note as payment and the note itself is worthless unless it is securitized.
Anyone can accept or deny any form of payment they want. If you don’t accept a promissory note then you don’t. It is a worthless bit of paper if both parties don’t agree the worth.
Is dave still deleting people from his telegram channel for asking questions he doesn't like. ??
No, but he is deleting people for acting like arses
Presumably they are asking for their money back so yes they’ll be deleted.
@@AllegedlyDave ah the closed "open" minds of the loons.
Dodgy Dave.
Lord Denning’s ruling stated that a promissory note only has to be treated as cash if both parties have agreed to it prior.
You can always count on Vobes or one of his guests to selectively quote if they think it will help them.
“We have repeatedly said in this court that a bill of exchange or a promissory note is to be treated as cash".
He went on to say before giving judgment for the claimant in respect of the unpaid promissory note (and you’d have to be a complete moron to think he meant merely issuing a note discharges the liability given he then found for the claimant) - “It is to be honoured unless there is some good reason to the contrary”
So what did he mean by “treated as cash”? Nothing more than that the defendant’s available defences to non-payment of the note are no more than would be his right to demand return of the amount if he had instead paid in cash, namely, if the note (or the cash payment) were procured by fraud, the transaction was (sufficiently) tainted with illegality or there was a total failure of consideration for the promise contained in the note (or for the payment of cash).
In that particular case the defaulter on the Promissory Note had to pay £23000 plus interest and court costs.Lord Denning's remarks are always quoted out of conrtext.People should read up on the case .The PN does not pay off a loan.
@@eskertoo that is correct. The pn does not pay off the loan. Returning the security to HMRC does.
@@eskertoo You'd have thought it was quite simple really. If Denning had said the PN discharged the liability he wouldn't have given judgment in favour of the claimant. But he did. Quite hard to ignore that but never underestimate the willingness and ability of your average Vobes fan to lie/distort/selectively quote if he thinks it will help him and no matter how obvious it is.
@@SirRogerHerwell it's all about your accounting issue you have with HMRC.
The irony of RV talking to AD and saying other people are “dumbed down” is thick!
Says the person that cannot even string a sentence together 😂
How is that thick when most went and got a vax lol. Most are dumbed down and have sheep mentality.
I don't trust this. My daughter was in serious debt a few years ago, I contacted Dave, he said to ring back the next day and he would give me the information I needed. I rang him back, but he couldn't remember speaking to me so didn't help me at all.
Big surprise .
Shocker lol
Dodgy Dave😂😂😂
@@pollyanna434 Shocking !, Shocking !!!, Shocking !!!!!!!, I just can't believe it. Shocking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
@@jayargonauts Good laugh though.
Essentially he's selling his own fictitious bank and fake currency. Except he can't create a real one due to licencing and regulations. He wants you to pay him a mortgage payment, but doesn't actually explain how the money will be used. He tells you in the video you will lose it. If you think a bank will write off your mortgage because of his fake currency think again. It’s basically a con but not a con because he's honest about you losing your money to him.
Since the 1930s the only way to pay for something is to discharge you can not use the debt given to you from a job which equals 0 to do anything
Yes you can’t pay a bill as there is no money. You can only discharge. And that way you reduce national debt 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hahahaha, I love to see that light bulb go on and illuminate the darkness. Good on ya mate. I am pretty confident you are on the right track, and can't wait to see how your journey unfolds.
That’s not a light, it’s a jet of yellow piss
Yes, to drain the resources from idiots who sign up to this 💩💩💩
I can't believe he's claiming to have woken up with this idea.
🤣🤣🤣
Always someone to disbelieve or comment negatively about brilliant information smdfh bigot 🥺
When people ask me who I work for I always say the government as for every £10 I earn and spend, £7 of it goes to them in tax.
so clever.
@@arnoldrimmer9161 yes because slavery is still alive and well just named differently!
@@jellytot9838 spot on my friend!
Exactly working for government means liable for tax 😂
70%, is that right? How do you get that figure.
"Allegedly Dave" - the man, the myth, the LEGEND.
This man has done more for bringing truth, knowledge & clarity to so many.
Thanks Dave, you are a LEGEND. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
He’s done more for yellow ice pops than any man alive, that’s about it
@@RogerRamjet-t4qand what the fuck have you done
@@crabpaste5369 He's a flat Earth halfwit .
Hi , no wonder the price of building land went up in the 1970's to the extortionate price to day , and the Banks TOOK OVER THE BUILDING SOCIETIES .
They are bussinesses run for profit, however you can use a mutal building society - they still exist.
What a great interview, great quest.
Allegedly Dave!!!. Fabulous guest!. Thank you .
Yes, there's a fair few auric liquiescence extraction artists in this world lol, great video.
Not to mention urinary ones !
Indeed
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Healing one drop at a time
Dodgy Dave is one, I'm afraid.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Dodgy Dave. Why is he dodgy ? Ya know you can't help some people. You can try to get them to think for themselves and see the reality of our existence. But some people either have radical Stockholme Syndrome or they are just too ignorant and dumb to be taught anything. Why don't you research this section of law for yourself Student dad ? You still probably wouldn't believe it would you ? I bet you were a three masker during Covid weren't you lol.
The proof is in the pudding, can I pay the “donation” with my own promissory?
Have a guess....
If it's backed by multiple, but separate, mortgage payments, and the total value of PNs he can issue is limited by that value, how can he possibly also pay off everyones mortgages?
We just need to think outside the box like the Braithwaite family in 16th Century CE who built Bridge house.
Built on a bridge, as an apple shop, to avoid paying land tax.
Located in Cumbria, England, Bridge House is not "technically" on land, as it is built on or over the watercourse of a river.
Allegedly guilty of what? Just jokin…i love Dave. An indefatigable seeker of the truth.
Love the video and the information that Allegedly Dave is presenting! Supporting this visionary idea by contacting him is a must for me, to have a written method that works is putting a spoke in their plans! Richard i enjoy all your videos, i am a huge fan of yours❤️ your are a bresth of fresh air in this dense matter we are going through, we will all come out the other side happy to have resisted their system, no matter how small the personal resistance is, every personal divine intention is for the good of all❤️
Stay true to yourself, you are a mind changer! 🥰
Indeed it's a great effort for this new asset.
The note is a promise to pay you in the future when gold and silver returns which has no date
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“Only puny secrets need keeping. The biggest secrets are kept by public incredulity.” Marshall McLuhan
Hi, Dave, why don't you use your own method and get back to us on how it went?
If I could do do it then I would
@@AllegedlyDave Why can't you do it?
@@AndrewTravis-z3xbecause it’s made up 💩
@@AndrewTravis-z3x Sorry, I thought you were a human, my mistake
@@AllegedlyDave Dave, could it be that you don't have a mortgage and/or don't qualify for one? My suggestion was going to be that you get a sort of beta tester to run the scheme. If it works you got yourself a way forward. As it is all you have is something you literally dreamt up.
There is a tried and tested way of paying of your Mortgage more cheaply and quickly. Most Mortgage repayments are one month in arrears and paid monthly. Pay your Mortgage on time and weekly! If possible always pay more than you have to but these days that can be hard. Paying weekly reduces interest and your Mortgage Term dramatically!!
Can you go more into this? I'm interested. Can I just ask my bank for weekly repayments and they will just honour that?
@@gohan2091 No, they hate that for obvious reasons. Simply pay on time every week, preferably a week early. . Set up a new DD. You probably pay a month in arrears, most do. If you pay weekly on time you will save huge amounts of interest and can pay off your mortgage early. I did this with my last Mortgage. They hated it and tried to stop me. I was paying early and weekly!
@@EnglishVeteran cant get my head around this - so most people have a DD each month to pay mortgage on say 1st of month - how do you change this to weekly? do you simply take your current mortgage payment (lets say £1000 due on Nov 1st) and divide by four so you make £250 DD 1st week in Oct, £250 DD 2nd week in Oct etc?
Exactly, thats the right and honest way to do it
@@jenlong8568 do you need to let them know what you are doing - or just cancel the existing DD and setup the new ones.
Anyone soliciting for money on this platform is to be avoided at all costs!
Made my core vibrate when he said it
So it's a Ponzi scheme. Just like the banks. I kinda get it.
Donation you could pay £1? There is no money anyway so who cares? 😂
You realise that is Vobey boys entire schtick? He is only in YT to get patreon money, etc.
Well i for one will be watching dave for updates
Hi Dave Great to see you active again. Hope we will see more of you. GOD Bless
Reclaim your mortgage security. Give it back to HMRC. You have an obligation to settle the account with them. All moneys are created, spent and returned to the source. We all have an accounting problem.
The banks are holding your security in the incorrect account. They put it into a general account rather than special account. They have stolen your title.
So your saying HMRC creates money ? Or have I got that wrong ??
@@evelghostrider they do, but from your instructions and on your account held with HMRC. Remember, your BC identity is the debt conveyancer. You can only create debt. To access the credit side, you need to change your status. Ie. Become the beneficiary of your estate. Or, become the agent for the principal in the crown court and create remedy by issuing a bond to pay down any debt with it. Remember, you are the creditor, they make the assumption and presumption you are the debtor.
The only agencies that can create securities is banks, governments and courts. Courts are just banks. They seek surety from your estate just by your appearance. The Judge is looking for you to be the underwriter for his summons, security. Reject that where possible.
@@tobychenderson very interesting!
Do you have any information or would point me in the direction of how to become a beneficiary of "my estate" or how to become the agent for the principal in Crown Court?
@tobychenderson how do you formally become the beneficiary?
Love your ideas I trust Dave 😊
On that case give him all your money in exchange for his promissory notes.
More fool you😂😂😂
Ooh… another flerfer. Going to go the full flerf Mr Vobey?
Peace. Yes. Generously lovely man. Thank you for sharing. Peace.
does the UK have a truth in lending or... full disclosure law? the reason for the question is, if the fraudulent lender does not inform the one signing the mortgage that he/she is pulling the necessary amount from their trust, than the mortgage is not valid. a unilateral corporate sig-nature is not valid, only a bi-lateral contract is binding. as the true beneficiary of the all-caps corporate fiction and executor of the same, the fraudulent lender has no assets in the transaction. therefore the mortgage is paid in full.
An excellent chat. Best of luck Dave...
Ah. The old "talk a load of flim flam about easy answers to real problems and end up asking for money" wheeze. Allegedly.
😂😮😅
This whole thing ignores the fast that when you sell a house the bank that grants the mortgage actually transfers that money to the seller.
They don't transfer money, it's just digital? 😢
@@steveanderson3942but you can withdraw it. I get paid digitally but that money exists. I can buy goods and services with it. This is the way since money was invented pretty much.
@@timsbird1971 there's only like 10 percent of actual cash as FRN's the rest is all digital transactions
The bank doesn't loan you any money. You've created the money by signing the 'note'.(promisory note). The 'note' was used to fund 'the loan'. The 'note' was added to the banks ledgeras an asset. The bank accepted the 'note' as cash. The bank sold it on the securities market and made a profit from the sale. Did they pay tax on this profit? The bank charged interest on the slleged debt (Usury ). It is fraud from the very beginning and it's eminently provable. They have NOT provided anything of value. There is NO contract.
So the house is immaterial, just an object to create the money?
@@turboslag correct, and also no money changes hands during an exchange, when buying/selling homes, it all happens in the ether, creating another wad for the bankers from your signature, again 'lost at sea' (hid behind filing cabinet - sitting on the spike) then 'claimed as salvage' (amazingly FOUND from behind the cabinet, after a certain time... then it's either paid as defaulted on, or insured as a loss....
That's not what happens - however the BANK do create money out of nowhere, unfortunately it is added to the LOSS side of their accounts sheet because they gave it to you - so to ballance the books you have to pay it back. This is how 'wealth' is created.
So Dave woke up with this idea recently, that has been floating about for well over a decade, that no one as yet, including Dave, has ever been able to evidence that it will work, and he want's you to pledge "money" to him to attempt to try to see if it will work.
Best of luck with that.
This reminds me of the film "Catch me if you can" because really its this simple and if you make something of a document and a true nugget behind it .
Thanks Richard Vobes for that interview;
Two things come to mind;
any enterprise founded on secrecy, must immediately invite scepticism;
“We who received freely, give freely”, Bible verse, means We must not exploit Our ‘insider’ knowledge to make personal gain, as it is ethically hazardous;
transparency is a must to support a trust and full disclosure a necessity for consent;
so it sounds ‘Dodgey Dave’ as;
anyway, Dave said, “that if they can do it,…We an do it too” and so there is nothing to stop Us doing Our own research and due diligence anyway;
[Cf. Clearfield Doctrine 1943; Mercantile Law 1880; Bills of Exchange Act 1908];
Melbourne Australia,
I sent two BoE , registered post,one week ago.
I have not received any response yet.🤷♂️✌️
There are so many potentially bad outcomes here, passing off your promissory note as a replacement for a legal one is called be called counterfeiting, now if you can get them to sign an actual contract that they will accept your note as a replacement for the legal version then you might be alright. you owe the X amount of legal BS notes on your original contract, sending them your own note just means they can redeem that amount on demand of the original BS legal notes, because those are the type of notes in the original contract, if you don't have their agreement to "swap" notes this is pointless and potentially could cause more problems for you.
legal is not lawful
@@ruthlongridge2137 very true, one thing we have to remember is that there is a value exchange going on here so failure to return value could result in jail time and it would be lawful is certain circumstances.
@@ruthlongridge2137lawful means in compliance with sovtard fantasy common law
I think it might also be using a fraudulent instrument.
So dodgy daves plan is for you to send him the actual money you owe on your mortgage instead of paying it off. He then keeps your money forever in his own words meanwhile the banks repossess your property and you are screwed twice
He said ... A mortgage payment, not the lot. 👍
@@PeterBrian-iz2nfso not a scam at all
Yeah pay attention..
@@PeterBrian-iz2nfstill doesn’t sit right with me
@@kevind2163but the rest does?
I’m not saying Dave isn’t honest but what’s just stopping him walking off with thousands or even millions of pounds if it don’t work? And surely should be more than one person in charge of the whole thing.
If something sounds too good to be true it usually is
@@erazered The whole idea is to scam as many people as he can. Vobes is the perfect conduit (useful idiot) for the grift.
I think you may have seen through his razor like intellect, to reveal a carefully crafted grift NOT. Do not send money you can't afford to loose 🙂just saying.
Promissory note in the post to you Dave!!!!!!
Most people don't live in one place long enough to pay off a mortgage in full. Proof is in the pudding- we had a mortgage of 30 years, it came to the point of paying the principal off, paid it and asked for the deed, not one produced it. That was 3 years ago. Not one who was asked to produce it, has given anything but a copy of the original deed transfered to the holder of the debt. This is proof it becomes a traded security and ownership becomes an illusion.
Ah ha, but in law a copy of a thing is not the thing and that should be added to your challenge. You have the right to ask for an appointment where you can physically see the original document you signed because it contains your DNA. If they can’t then you are left with no choice but to suspect some fraudulent activity has taken place by their inability to show you the original 👀
You were given the deed when you bought the house. The mortgage company didn't get it. If you lost it in those thirty years then that's your fault.
@davidclayworth2271 the bank/mortgage company/solicitors keep your deed until your mortgage is paid. That's when you own it and take full title
@@davidclayworth2271no thats wrong you dont get it just a vopy but when you pay it off you get the deed from company or bank lender or you ask at the land registry
I got the original deeds not long after the mortgage started@@michellegriffiths8955
I sent a promissory note for my mortgage. No reply from the bank that been accepted.
They probably will get money from the insurance waiting for the 90 days.
I will definitely join Dave. He have a big heart
Google Financial Ombudsman Decisions DRN7350722 to find out the truth about thinking a Promissory note will settle a mortgage!
@@eskertooShhhhh Dave is trying to get ££££’s, the truth won’t help him do that…😂
You will just pay more interest and possibly loose your credit rating.
Being Dutch I can't use most of the idea's of Richard or his guests, though I find his talks highly educational and entertaining
Are you quite sure about that? How come?
Being Dutch makes no difference - all of this is BS.
Banks do not lend one single penny out on a mortgage the mortgage money is created with a piece of paper where they unique number a date and the amount of money and wet signatures it then becomes a financial instrument which can be traded on the markets. There is more to this but too much for me to explain in a message.
That's how God works, he gives us Dreams & Visions. Glory to God! ❤
Wow, they not only took the interest on my loan for over 15 years that I was trying to get to re move ex Husband off mortgage after divorce they refused at every level and MADE ME pay the full mortgage off in full in order for me not to lose MY house which was 15 years early. This is the NATIONWIDE. I always told them this is not over!!!
Once you have successfully paid off your mortgage ... arrange with your lawyer to discharge the lien with your bank.
What happens when you present this new instrument and they the mortgage company decide to close the mortgage and reposess the house? What do you do then?
You contact the council and tell them that you are homeless.
“Kids weeing on them”…. Surely AD is there with his glass at that point….
Its not cheating its commerce😊
I used to do a great robot dance many years ago but now I'm a little rusty !
Idiot troll
the problem with this is that the Promissory Note INCREASES the national debt. Where as Bills of exchange reduce it. we should all be looking at ways to discharge and balance the books and not playing their system with yet more Usury. ( Money created with interest )
Lots of money for humanity causes don't worry about bank thay are going down lal💜🙏💜🧙♂️
Im sure theres a mortgage clause that states the mortgage has to be paid back with a certain denomination of fiat currency, otherwise people would be paying off their mortgage with jewellery, cars, boats etc. A promissory note needs to be agreed upon as a satisfactory settlement by both parties. Interesting concept but i dont think it will work for that reason.
@@teapot6711 A promissory note is a financial instrument and has value. Value is money. The PN is converted into a Security and added to the ledger on the asset side of the balance sheet. The debt is your money on the debt side of the ledger. Reclaiming your security back to your estate brings your HMRC account back to zero, and the credit side of the bank balance sheet is wiped out. There is no debt/value in the mortgage trust and is therefore setoff. You get the title deeds. The bank is down on the deal because they gave the money to the vendor.
there isn't. copies of mortgage agreements freely available online. How do you sign your autograph? A blank endorsement is perhaps not the way to go.
An Irish guy paid off his sisters mortgage with a promissory note but was taken to court by the bank, however the court ruled in his favour by saying if the bank can use promissory notes daily then they have to accept them too. its on the web, go check it out. i like the way these guys are trying to use their rules and laws back against them now and at some point the people will win, but most are still sleeping with their eyes wide shut.
That doesn't make sense.If the bank refused to accept a promissory note the maker of the note would have to take the bank to court.Many people who have failed to settle a mortgage with a promissory note have appealed to the Financial Ombudsman but nobody has been successful .Don't forget that a mortgage agreement is a form of promissory note so why would a bank have to accept another promissory note to pay off the first?
@@eskertoo once a special and qualified autograph is put to paper, payment is tendered and delivered. Bills of exchange act (UK and CANADA) UCC 3 (the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Lovely man that David!
More utter twaddle
piss drinking, flat earther wants you to lose your home. beware
Did you actually watch it? Tell me, candidly. How many cats do you own and how many bottles of wine do you drink each night?
@@leechapman-ri9rb You sound like a meths drinker. B & Q or an upmarket customer at Wickes? Most of us watch the sov cit / Freeman of the Land loon videos with their pseudo legal brain vomit for the laughs. Get over it.
@@leechapman-ri9rb If he's on wine then you must be on meths
@@1faustus When you were a teenager are you deeply ashamed that you begged your sister to tug you off? Does she still remind you today? Humiliating I bet?
This is not a great approach, all you have done is created more debt on your estates account.
You are not fixing your accounting issue with HMRC.
You are making the banks richer.
Mind of Steele has a new Vobes busting video uploaded
Yep. And let's rip regarding sovereign Pete. He talked about when Pete said about ownership meaning a literal ship and said if that was a 6yo child saying that it would be funny but as Pete is a 40 something bloke he should know better.
Splendid
Why are you here ?
@@sobeit1927 to protect dumb people like you
@@sobeit1927 believe it or not there are people who are trying to prevent these charlatans doing damage to people's lives, finances, and health.
The guardian said there's 3 trillion worth of gold. In the coffers is that what money is backed up with.
Not all Banks Securitise every Mortgage. I believe it was 85% about 10 years ago.
Similar to what Peter of England was doing with the were bank..banks refused his chequea
did they? i wondered how on earth he was going to pay off everyones debts lol and have no comeback from the banks etc.
@@colinmillar3792 in 2015 I paid off my council tax with his were bank cheque.The bank refused it saying it wasn't in the swift system.
Micheal Tellinger added a disclaimer enabling the promissory note to be traded on the stack market which nullified the debt making the house yours. Interested to hear
You can only trade a PN on the market if every other trader agrees it is worth something - you could write a PN for £1 million, but on the stock market which is a FREE MARKET it is worth 1p.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Unless it's agreed to have value. That's the point... It's the law. But yes, 100% correct.
If he sets up an energy company and we can charge him for storage of his meters on our property, then we can do the same with the energy companies we are already with and charge them the amount of our bill minus £1 for storing their meters on our property instead. If this is legal he doesn’t need to set up a company.
Ok, finally for me, the fictious problem of paying back 'interest' that wasn't created. Come on fellas!! If the interest payments are recycled back into the economy as SPENDING, (and NOT reinvested for further gain) you can more or less pay back any amount of interest if the repayments over time are right. Think about it. That's why you can be penalised for trying to pay off your 'debt' too quickly, because by so doing you are preventing the process i explained above from happening. It's just the same as the notes in your pocket in that respect. How many times have they been used as payment. The big problem is not the interest, but the principal which gets destroyed and can only be replaced by someone else taking out a new 'loans' to avoid a future potential deflationary mass default.. . . But once again 'credit' created as 'money', in a debt based system, what's it dependent on? . . . . . ENERGY.
Dave is so fricking awesome I almost wish I still had a mortgage just so I could support him in this. Thanks again Richard :)
It's been said the goons sell is the paper title deeds as bundles... Except those who bought property years ago, '90s!
I absolutely love Dave. What a great guy. Once you go flat, you won't go back.
Inflation primarily occurs due to Fiat currency creation. Printing lot’s of currency devalues that Fiat Currency. The USA $ has depreciated by around 98% in the last 50 years or so. Pound Stirling a similar amount over a longer period.
We value everything in Fiat Currency! Therefore, of course your house will appear to be worth a lot more! But, value that same house in Bitcoin, the purest form of money, and your house will be approximately the same value as you paid for it originally.
If you then add on the interest you paid on your Mortgage to the original cost of your house and you will be utterly shocked!!!!
The idea of the trust as such has been tried and failed before. Will end in a lot of tears and more repos
I paid up a mortgage on a holiday home in Canada because when I stopped making payments and started asking these questions the bank reposesed the property because I was not there. From the UK I arranged to claim it back by getting my own locksmith to change the locks remove their signs and steal it back from them. I was then forced to sell the property to pay them off plus fees because I could not be bothered with the agravation . I sold at a loss while in my possession fir a quick solution but feel like lodging a claim and lein against the central bank of Canada that I would give as an asset to daves cause.
You have to pay back what you owe - sorry to hear you tried this and were burned.
brilliant interview and very exciting
If the banks are using fraud , and you’re gonna use the same method against them , aren’t u worried you’ll get banged up for fraud ?? 😂
Another of the endless line of Vobes giving schemers a platform ,it all comes down to this Dave cadging donations from those gullible enough to finance this scam.
Why r u watching endless videos of schemers😮
Because he's gutless and programmed to the system @@Jo-xg6rk
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No need to go elsewhere Vobes is a one stop shop for scammers/snake oil merchants etc.
@@Jo-xg6rkBecause he's a saddo with nothing better to do.
Now the penny drops - fantastic Dave! I love it! This whole monetary system needs to be destroyed and I love your plan. Can I join Allegedly Energy when it gets going please? 😆
Unfortunately, it's the only system that we have and it works (mainly to keep the rich richer) - as soon as you tear this down, the same thing will arise in it's place because society needs a means of exchange - currency for an economy to provide the standard of living we enjoy.
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Great to hear Dave. Be aware the legend Mary Croft had to go into hiding 20 years ago after writing the 'spell' on the back of a freinds checkbook check to pay off her mortgage because she was in difficulties financially. The bank manager phoned a week later and said her mortgage was paid in full... the bank owners frown on this practice ... good luck to you, watch your back. John Harris was not so fortunate!
Hugs to all xxx
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What happened to John H?
@@heyitsalanhere taken out bc he chased his full fictions equity, he was warned and just like John would he ignored the warning, then he was made to write a suicide note, allegedly, but wrote it in a way that proved it was under duress... I liked him, he used a childs picture as the Sovereign and a child portrayal of frankenstien as the fiction, hilarious and so truly brilliant!
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Followed Dave for years he has great information 😊
On drinking piss
So Dave says he had no credit card arrears, but they sent debt collectors because he asked some questions. I think he's overdosed on his own piss.
Or maybe even Vobes'.
@@paulhillman400One way or the other .
I assume they closed the debt out as 'written off' but marked it as 'unpaid' to stop him doing it again.
@@G-ra-ha-mHe's telling porkies Graham.
Freeman on The Land nonsense is just that! However, there is some truth in what has been discussed here. Keynesian Economics. Not Fraud, but 100% immoral!!
what a lot of BS ive never heard so much rubbish 70% of people will never pay there mortgage off ??? where do those facts come from if you believe mortgages are a fraud .. dont apply for one problem solved
70% of sovtards won’t pay their mortgage off, they’ll try sovtard bull💩 and get their house repossessed
You'll never get it because 77th Brigade doesn't employ math geniuses, you knuckle dragging scumbags can barely tie your own shoelaces
@@AllegedlyDaveweren't the 77th on the truthers side 4 years ago? as in they didn't believe there was a virus.
Dodgy Dave will obviously net enough idiots who believe this shite to make this scam worthwhile
@@jayargonauts Yep, even though the UK addressable m0ron market is probably only a few tens of thousands of people, if AD can, like Vobes does with being a one stop shop for all conspiretard needs, capture a decent slice of that market, he could do fairly nicely out of it. Unlike those who take up his offer.
Satisfaction and accord by way of novation and acceptance
I don't see how any of this works until we challenge our 'lost at sea' status under the Cestui Que Vie Act (1666)
Fictions equity!!
Yes dave get the energy going I'm in 💥💥💥 👏👏👏
Quite simply
Proverbs 17
13If anyone returns evil for good,
evil will not depart from his house.
Hi Richard can you find out please as to where does it leave all the people who have maybe had to sell their homes and have allready paid their mortgage off /back
Also wasn't it agreed along the lines by the very High Court Judge was it Lady Hales
Something along the lines of
Just by signing the Mortgage agreement,the document that they ask you not to date
That you then allready own the Property
Michael O'bernicia got that information through his Father's Court Case to which this High Court Judge stated it
To my knowledge that's correct . You own the house , but you then have a debt with the bank that's secured against your property . Ie if you can't pay they will force the sale of the house as payment .
Banks are breaking GAAP
' Be not a borrower, Nor a lander be '
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine ownself be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man." Polonius to his son. The whole speech is good advice, as is so much in Shakespeare.
i would not trust tellinger at all
Have you met him?
It’s all bollox
@@AllegedlyDave Only on line, many years ago in the Freeman SA (South Afrika) group. I was flummoxed when he decided to establish a political party, Ubuntu, as that indicated a lack of understanding. Then there is his one small town movement, where he got a town to export their Primary water; the OST problem I see is that the biggest cut of the "'profits" goes to him.
I don't deny being a suspicious character, Dave, and I have learned the hard way to trust my instincts. I hope I am wrong about him....and perhaps your faith in him might help...
I do not own a property because I allways had this feeling that we can´t own land. And bying a house involves too much fraud. Now I know why I had this feeling 🙂
I bought a house and paid down the mortgage as quickly as possible as didn't want to pay rent all my life.
Thankyou
Divine inspiration I will be keen to watch this progress I thought the links would be listed, But it is ok I will rewatch and write down, I was in the garden weeding while listening, on a delightful sunny day in the Far North of NZ Thank you Richard and Dave, I have sent an email to you Richard concerning amazing stuff happening in NZ in reference to, Janine of the house of Arabella.