Why Americans Are FLEEING These 8 States | States That LOST Population in 2023
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2024
- On this video we take a look at recently released US Census Data that shows 8 US States losing population in 2023.
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Population Trends Returning to Normal:
www.census.gov/newsroom/press...
Population Tables (US Census):
www.census.gov/programs-surve...
Commonwealth Foundation (PA):
www.commonwealthfoundation.or...
Illinois Outbound Movers:
www.fox32chicago.com/news/ill...
Louisiana Shrinking:
kpel965.com/report-louisiana-....
Aging Oregon Population:
oregoneconomicanalysis.com/20...
California Population Loss:
www.capradio.org/articles/202...
Welcome to Oregon Sign:
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Westphal Apartments:
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Illinois Population Loss
www.illinoispolicy.org/illino...
Highest cost of living states:
www.cnbc.com/2023/07/12/these...
Hawaii:
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Daniel Ramirez from Honolulu, USA, CC BY 2.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/..., via Wikimedia Commons
NY Cost of Living
fortune.com/2024/01/09/kathy-...
Big Sur:
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Lake Tahoe:
© Frank Schulenburg
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"I left a state because there were too many cops, the streets were clean and safe, and taxes were too low." Said no one ever.
You get what you vote for
As a black man, I know a couple folks who prefer to live in the alternative setting...
@@abboudashkar3804 No you don't. That's one of the biggest lies going today.
There can be too many cops. They all all get generous benefits and pensions. Those benefits are paid for by the tax payers. You aren't good at math.
@@bonzocleach2496 how so?
Housing costs are insane! And people wonder why the birth rate is declining. How can you have a big family with no house?
People can barely afford a one bedroom apartment.
Add in the extra cost of a home in a place with a good school district, and the high cost of childcare, it's a wonder the birth rate is not even lower.
Low birth rate is not a problem, actually beneficial! We can bring in migrants to replace you! And all this time you thought you were irreplaceable! 😂😊
Because the government regulates developers to no end, especially in blue states with large cities, which increases the time and cost to build immensely, reducing the housing supply so it never can catch up with population growth. Any politician telling you this is not the main cause is either lying or very ignorant.
As a lifelong NY resident I feel I can safely say it is the worst run state in the country. The politics have become absurd, Kafkaesque. And I mean at every level, from the Governor on down to the insanely stupid NYC council, the DA's and judges who refuse to enforce the law. And on top of all that, hardworking middle class people are bled dry by the insane cost of living, taxes, etc just for the privilege of living amid this lunacy.
Yup, native Long Islander here. The 2022 governor election is a good sign even though Lee Zeldin lost by 6 points. The Presidential election in New York could be interesting because of 3rd party candidates but Joe Biden will still probably win. Gillibrand is up for re-election too so even though she will win the margin could be lower than Chuck Schumer who won by 14 points.
New Yorkers got what they voted for leaving republicans to vote by fleeing the democrat madness.
It sounds like California.
California is giving you a run for the border.
No state is run more badly than California.
I saw a T-Shirt in St Augustine that said, “Don’t New York my Florida.”
Haha I saw something similar on a sign in Central Florida the other day.
😂😂😂 they already are though. They’ve raised the cost of homes 100-150k higher than it was pre covid. Income is still low in Florida so it’s starting to get expensive and out of reach.
@@octoberboiyyup. I was forced to leave because of those reasons. Loved living Florida but it’s too expensive, overcrowded and people are insane! Left for the west for a better paying job and more space. Love Wyoming!
@@notdave2993 I’m pretty sure Wyoming pays less than Florida and if you like it that rural then that’s great for you.
@@octoberboiy depends on the job you’re doing. I make very good money living out here.
People leave these states because of bad government policies and they move to different states and vote for same policies
It's stupid. And I'm going to force them to stop voting like that. No goddamn respect at all
You say that like wasn't part of a plan. Get into power, make your peasant's lifes unsufferable, let them run because you know they'll vote the same way.
That's because they're too stupid to figure out that they are the ones turning the state like that
We in Arizona🌵are dealing with corruption in the government here. POSs get by with it by paying off the scumbags. Harvard University agrees that Arizona is the most corrupt in politics.
Louder for the deaf leftists in the back
It doesn't mean anything if people keep voting for damaging politicians. No point in moving to another state where you'll most likely still vote for the same policies to create the same problems.
That will continue since despite the right wing talking points, Blue states are superior to red states by nearly every metric.
@@Chris-SmithThe blue states are predominantly coastal, benefiting from all international shipping and expensive coast line. And with all that advantage, they still succ @ss
Just say you're butthurt we have background checks on guns and cry elsewhere @Tempusverum
votes don't matter man, I'm sick of people mentioning votes. Bro no one believes that is even a working "thing"
if that's the case only "Gay, Rich, Dumb, Tech, Liberal, People are Voting, and No one else is Voting". Only Legislation Passing in California Is Stuff that "HURTS THE CITIZENS"
BIDEN FOLLWOING CALIFORNIAS LEAD LIKE A PUPPY DOG.
If anything the Liberals never vote not like the republicans , THE REPUBLICAS VOTE. THEY GIVE A S***
I feel like the SYSTEM IS NOT RIGED, ITS BULLSHIT! LIES!
@@Tempusverumliterally every red state besides texas (& maybe north carolina?) is economically depressed with low wages, people aren’t leaving blue states to go to red states in general, they are literally just going to texas & florida, thats it, other red states are still in decline & don’t attract domestic immigration
West Virginia is such a beautiful state, it’s a shame things aren’t going well
I’d honestly think about West Virginia as a landing spot if I moved again.
I moved to wild and wonderful West Virginia 32 years ago for a job. I’m so sick of it I can’t stand it. It’s a much cheaper place to live for a reason. Those wild and wonderful trees haven’t been cut around utilities for 50 years and are always falling on the power lines. There is no preventative measures whatsoever. Even the utility workers tell me this. Declining population here for sure. And the school systems 😂, well, we won’t even talk about that.
A direct result of Democrat policies ending coal production. Dumb….
Almost heaven but not quite. 👎
I wish Illinois would lose the horrible democrat governor.
Too bad the people moving south are bringing the same politics that ruined their own state down with them.
And THAT is by design ! They move to other states but vote the same way, thus turning the other states blue. I say blue because these are all blue states.
so teach them. take them to a nice dinner and talk sense to them.
Not really? I live in NY all my life and plan to move next year and I am as RED as they come!
Look at the states with the lowest median income and lowest education and health outcomes and most of them are red, southern states.
Hopefully won't vote the same and Do Better !
Blue never again .
I’m a southerner soon fleeing to the Northeast, interestingly. The extremely sprawling manner in which Southern cities are growing is something that I suspect will be regrettable 20 years from now. It’s hotter here than when I was a child. People are finding out in places like Florida, Texas, and Arizona that the sunbelt is just as capable of being rather overpriced, especially when some places also have lower wages and poorer services than elsewhere like say, the Midwest. When growth slows, the maintenance costs of the low density will come home to roost. HOAs are not to be trusted. The only people who win in our declining economy are the early movers
A lot of people are easily herded and follow propaganda to the latest trendy place. Right now a lot of people are moving to the sunbelt and ruining it for everyone else. Also these sunbelt cities have to plan haphazardly and end up doing improper suburban growth.
Meanwhile the midwest is growing very healthy and urban planning is being done properly. Also the midwest has plenty of filters to keep undesirable out and only family oriented people are attracted to places like Omaha Nebraska
@@ElectrodexifyHere in West Michigan, Ive never seen so many manufacturing shops built. After seeing many disappear, Crazy to see all these projects being built and bringing in actual jobs. Our Governor also made it so old men can marry 16 year olds, so another bonus for our state. Also tax breaks for families was big this year here
@@ninjanik2095 Old men marrying 16 year Olds? What's the purpose of that?
Moving to the northeast just be warned. Our cars will rust a lot quicker than in the south
@@crazy4gta1also people drive like maniacs lol. Be prepared
mostly blue run states are in decline...lawlessness and high cost of living are two main reasons
You forgot taxes as well.
Lifelong New Yorker planning to relocate. Mostly due to cost of living.
The problem with these exits is that they were also the problem that created the mess in the States their leaving. Worse yet, they will bring the same MIND set to the new States and possibly tip the scale to ruin the new State with their votes. I would like to see a new law in all 50 States that will prohibit new residents from voting for one full year and must change all identification to the new State.
Just don't take your voting habits with you.
@@pmn2821majority of NY counties are red. The population centers and NYC swing the ballot
Yeah, good lord, learn from your mistakes and stop voting for idiotic policies.
don’t vote the same
It’s a shame that Hawaiians cannot afford to stay in their own state. Their politicians have sold them out.
...and sold their land to the wealthy & celebrities like OW.
It was always the plan.
It's too bad that ppl from FL can't afford to live there. When you have to leave FL you don't have enough to move anywhere good and you end up in crime ridden, bad weathered, unkind peopled, like PA.
@@sunshineandwarmth Florida isn’t that expensive for most. The insurance companies may gouge homeowners due to the hurricane threat level, but the overall cost of living in FL is not bad.
They voted for their politicians!
Leaving Illinois was the best decision I ever made. I LOVED Chicago. Born and raised. But moving to WI has been nothing but a blessing.
I'm a Wisconsin native and I think Wisconsin is a pretty special place. Happy to hear you like it!
@@ES-qu1jd WI has the worst roads in the country!
@@robertshepherd99 You must be joking.
Louisiana is just a depressing state. As soon as you enter even the street lights look like they want out of the state.
It's been depressing since Ida
@@tropicalstorm24 I think a lot that decline was something that happened over decades. I think Katrina back in 2005 was a huge domino where it just accelerated from there.
Lousy-ana lost people because of the infrastructure and the people are resistant to change.
I unfortunately grew up there (14 years) and when I joined the Navy, I didn't look back.
It could be a nice area to live if they take care of those 2 things
The toilet bowl of the country
natt dey *cuisine*
CA is finished. Leave if you can.
Really? I’m considering moving there. I’ve always been fascinated with CA.
When things change, they change in New York and California first, so whatever changes is coming to your town soon. Unlike some states that hide as much as they can, CA and NY do not.
@@Jetski_Journalsjust don’t go to L.A. or San Fran, those cities will destroy your soul.
@@georgeralph472 And Stockton. And Fresno. And Bakersfield. And Visalia. And......
I’ve been wanting to leave California for a while now. My husband is stubborn.
South Florida (Miami, Ft. Lauderdale & Palm Beach) are getting on par with major eastern cities in the cost-of-living category due to New Yorkers, Bostonians, etc. moving here.
Surprising NJ aint on this list
They been stagnant since 1920 😂
They have lost everyone they could already
Guess where all the NY refugees are fleeing... as an NJ resident, ugh...
@@alphax4785 Where to though? Jersey City? I highly doubt most NYC townies would want to live out in Warren County boonies. Maybe upstate transplants
@@harpsdesire4200 Staten Island refugees ended up at the Jersey Shore ... 'nother round of Snookies and Situations ... IDIOTIC BENNIES need to STAY in Richmond County!!!!!!!!
We both grew up on the San Francisco Peninsula and bailed to western Oregon in 1975. His 3 siblings moved out of the Bay Area as well. The California of our youths (1946-1975) is long gone. Housing costs are insane there. Everything costs more.
We are heading out of Calif. this week to look for a new home in another state. The reason is simply the cost to live here is so high. My wife and I own our home outright but the cost of living here is so high if one of us dies the survivor can't afford to stay in this home! Our insurance rates have more than tripled! Our state and county taxes are so high we have to pay them twice a year to save enough from our SSI to pay them. Gas prices are the highest in the nation! Going to the market is now a luxury. We are no longer able to go out to dine, restaurants or fast food. On top of it all the Governor is the biggest tax and spend governor the state has ever seen!!!! He does nothing for the people that have lived and worked in the state and reached retirement! If you are a homeless drug addict you get a free ride. If you are an illegal alien you get everything from housing to insurance for free! California is no longer the dream it once was. Time to get the hell out and leave it for the liberals!!
“ Please don’t be a Democrat, please be a Democrat, please don’t be a Democrat” - Says every state youre looking to move to.
Don't bring your blue politics to where you go.
And probably bring and vote the same stupid way in the new state bc you miss being oppressed
If you voted blue, don’t do the same thing wherever you move to because it will become the same place as where you left. The current iteration of the democrat party is not people with good intentions. Republicans aren’t much better; but democrats won’t even ALLOW someone trying to do the right thing for the people into their party.
We stayed in our state and moved to a rural area keeping the job in town. It’s working well for us. Very happy.
Which state?
@@ES-qu1jd Arizona. Not in the desert.
For a moment i thought he meant NYC ...
#1 doesn't surprise me at all...
You get what you vote for
@@abboudashkar3804Not all of us voted for this
@@sjlbean most of you
Hello, Mike, you keep us moving. Thanks!
Not surprised by Louisiana. I'm a native and still live there (for now). Mainly due to Hurricane Ida, home insurance costs skyrocketed along with some insurance companies fleeing the state. While I don't own a home, I have no intention of buying one in Louisiana and I'm considering moving west to either Texas, New Mexico or Arizona.
I do love my home state, but there's nothing really keeping me here anymore.
My family's from Louisiana and, after my grandmother died, all of us left. She died 3 weeks before Katrina, so that was a contributing factor. Many of us moved to Houston, got settled there and haven't even considered visiting Louisiana since.
I'm also a Louisiana native (Shreveport). My wife and I both moved from the state in late 1990--relocating to Texas. I share your sentiments. It's both heart-breaking and so very preventable. Although I love the state, but state and parish governments refuse to get serious about real and needed reforms in education, jobs and crime. Until then, nothing will get better and likely grow worse. My advice--stop blaming everyone else and look in the mirror. Change begins with you.
I'm from Louisiana too, unfortunately I'm being pressured out by lack of opportunity. There are so few jobs around me, and the ones that exist pay poorly compared to what I could be earning in other states doing the same jobs. Certain things are cheaper here, but a lot are the same prices they are in California or New York, and salaries/wages are deflated here compared to the national average so COL isn't as low as people portray it. It's hard to support yourself here. Hopefully things change in the future and things get better, since a lot of people are struggling.
I luv how politicians refer to “immigrants” picking up the slack…
Uh, yeah, when the best and brightest left their country - at a HIGH COST - and had to WORK for a living… pre-welfare State… 🧐
Notice how the GIVERMENT doesn’t dare track “net effect” ie how much “immigrants” pay in TAXES vs the benefits they receive… why such disparity might lead to TRILLION dollar losses.. that the government has to digitize outta thin air… spiking inflation of the currency so EVERYONE suffers the high cost of ILLEGAL “immigration” (which politicians push merely for more votes by ever more desperate and dependent people)
Eventually, you hit the WALL where the “immigrants” can do better back where they came from and AMERICANS are stuck with the tab.
I never considered Louisiana a good place to live. Evil, corrupt politicians, shitty cops, overpriced real estate. Terrible weather.
I was born and raised in Illinois (miles from Chicago). We left in 2022 and relocated to Kentucky (Paducah). The main reason was the cost of living and the weather. We enjoy Kentucky as it's cheaper and more open.
Mike you do a good job in presenting the facts and I enjoy your narration style. Keep up the good work, Marine.
Excellent video as always Mike.❤
My family lived in Buffalo until in '86 my grandfather took a job in Brownsville TX just three years before I was born here and we've been happy staying in the valley ever since.
as someone who recently left buffalo for texas, good move!
What’s your favorite/most underrated part of Brownsville? It popped up on my radar but being from the Midwest it’s so far away, at that point I might as well go to Mexico 😅
@@99_Planet fort worth is good
Buffalo will forever be my second home. Great city, great people.
"We're talking Proud!" 🎉
@@99_Planet for one it's not Mexico. Also the rent is still affordable and if you can get a apartment on a recaca you take it
I’m loving the new changes on the video format where you’re including yourself in it! Great narrating as usual
Glad you like them!
Excellent work on this. Very informative.
I lived in Portland for 6 months and i get why its losing people. I paid like 2.5x my rent to buy out my lease, it was so bad. I do miss the walkability and it has amazing bones, but not pleasurable to walk around when there could be a crazy person around any corner.
Which Portland? Portland, Maine or Portland, Oregon? If by chance you mean Portland, Oregon! I don’t blame you. All of Oregon is that bad. Maine on the other hand is likely somewhere I’d prefer not to be either from some of the things I know about being there! Even though I’ve never been there myself!
@@k7j6 Oregon
@@RickJ04040 I thought so! Thanks for understanding why I wanted to check!
Mike, you have quickly become one of my favorite RUclips creators. Keep up the good work!
Wow, thanks!
Great job! Lots of good information presented here, as usual. I’m in Florida and it’s nothing but out of state plates everywhere!
That's because Ron DeSantis is the best governor in the country.
@@nickd2296 No it's not. It's because Florida is warm in the winter. Florida used to be cheap. It's not anymore. Ron DeSantis is a phony. If you're illegal and able bodied DeSantis isn't shipping you anywhere. Browned skinned men do all the labor here in southwest Florida.
We visited a high school friend in San Francisco couple of years back. We loved a lot about California; the weather, the people and the nature. When we came home I got on Zillow and looked at home prices. OMG, the shock. Everything from the capital down to Los Angeles was over $1 million. The cheapest home we saw was $628,930; it was a bungalow that had been gutted by fire. The burnt furniture was still in the front yard. It sold in two weeks.
you definitely didnt look very hard. almost all new homes being built where i live dont pass 600k. typically range from 375k-575k
Nah bro even the ppl in cali suck
@@DameOfDiamondstroll
The states you mention were highly developed economically and are suffering from the penalties that naturally come with that economic success. When they figure out where they went wrong in their growing years and how to turn their current deficits into opportunities they will come roaring back. If the states currently in a period of economic growth don't learn from CA, NY, Louisiana and IL
they will trip up and end up in a worse position .
Pm
One of those California residents that left in 2023 has became my neighbors he said he loves Kentucky the state I live in
Ask him who he's voting for. He'll likely continue to vote for the same destructive policies that ruined California!
Hopefully, they change their voting habits.
But don't brothers and sisters marry each other in Kentucky? 🤢🤢🤢🤮
@@Omar_Zazzle Nope, that's just you.
@@Omar_Zazzle Nah, just Ilhan Omar from Somalia.
Oregon surprised me, nice vid👍🏾
I lived in Oregon while in school. I saw the issues. One was homelessness.
I live in southeastern Pa and love it here. Beautiful country, all four seasons, in two hours you can be in the mountains, the shore, NY City, Washington DC, the Chesapeake, etc.
PA is a very large state, especially compared to most states in the northeast. I’d be curious which parts of the state are contributing most to the overall population decline
@@briansevy7717I would guess central and northwestern section of the state. Idk though, just a hunch.
I live in the same area (Bucks County) and I have the opposite opinion lol. I guess there's nothing really uniquely bad about it, but nothing really uniquely great about it either. When I was a kid in the early 2000s, things were pretty decent, but over the years the population and suburban sprawl has just become ridiculous. A lot of the roads here were built in the times of colonial America, and are simply not up to the task of handling that amount of traffic. Job opportunities, at least in my field of engineering, are pretty poor, not much tech stuff going on here, and the closest place where tech actually happens is at least 45 minutes away in rush hour traffic due to aforementioned limitations of the roads.
@@trademisconception9816Yes, metro areas that lost population between 2020 and 2023 include Pittsburgh, Erie, State College, Johnstown, Altoona, and Williamsport.
@@thepuncakian2024 Perhaps better urban planning that isn't just highways and suburban sprawl could reverse the decline? Maybe dense town centers with rail or public transit access, communities where you can walk to shopping, school, etc, or just less highways. More lanes never solves traffic
Being a native Texan (DFW area), I am now live in rural Louisiana. I totally agree there are absolutely no decent jobs in Louisiana other than if you are petroleum engineer. Being a retired Manufacturing Engineer, no chance whatsoever of employment in my field in Louisiana. Crime outside the major cities here is very low and is one of the major factors for living here. Low paying jobs abound here with help wanted signs virtually at every type of business.
We chose not to retire in Texas due high crime, extreme driving congestion, and the current high cost of living there. Nowadays, we can drive there mainly to attend funerals of friends and love ones.
Moved here to Texas and now am stuck here. Everything is expensive. My auto insurance has tripled in 3 years. Can’t afford to stay here and can’t afford to leave. Illegals everywhere .
@@judyhalsell9510 I can remember when Texas had no sales tax in the 50's. They later instituted a 2% sales tax promising it would not go any higher. Taxes never go away but only get higher is what I learned from that. Only 3 things cheaper in Texas nowadays: Car Tags, no state income tax, and no sales tax on raw food items at the grocery store.
@@judyhalsell9510 genuinely wondering? How do you know someone is illegal or not?
@@paulhowell4316 you can figure it out
@@colorocko1 how?
I left Oregon in 2021. High taxes and cost of living. Mediocre job market for such an expensive state as well. Moved to Oklahoma!
lol
😂😂😂
Good for you for leaving Oregon! That’s being smart. And that shows you know the truth. I’ve lived in Oregon all my life. And I’d move out of that Dirty Rotten State of Oregon myself if I had the money. High Taxes as you may know isn’t the only bad about Oregon. There is way more! They get WAY TOO MUCH RAIN. They are selfish, careless, clueless & dishonest & they outlaw stuff that is important & make into law to do stuff that is wrong. I only wish there was a way I could fastly get that kind of money to move out of that Dump Oregon. But I’d only do that if that technique of getting that money fast was legal of course.
But you’re so cute, I can forgive that. 😂
Love your coverage! Thanks!
Always love watching your videos brother!!!
Glad to hear it!
Connecticut use to be too expensive to move to and now people are moving here because other places have gotten even more expensive.
The crime rate in major Louisiana cities such as New Orleans and Baton Rouge is also high af
That it is. Another of the many reasons "whitey" is getting out.
Excellent video! Subscribed
Semper Fi Mike! Fellow member of the Lake Bandini swim team here 🙂
As I said in the poll, I left Illinois for Arkansas. Taxes, gas and politics mostly. Weather is a plus as my joints can't handle that cold anymore.
Winters in Chicago lately haven't been that bad. Although I would agree Illinois taxes stink.
Eck, I’d live in Illinois over Arkansas 😕
High Taxes, bad police departments. But IL has alot more help for low income people and seniors.
Don't California my Texas.
This video gives a very good commentary and analysis, Thank you !
Honestly, the US census estimates haven’t had great accuracy in the past ten or so years I feel. The town I lived in was building apartments and homes all throughout the 2010s, yet the estimates each year said that we were losing more and more population. When the actual census of 2020 was released, in a big surprise to no one but the census bureau, it showed that we had actually gained a few percentage points of population. Also I’m pretty sure that the final estimates before the 2020 census were off by over a couple of percentage points in multiple states.
The census often don't count accurately your replacements
Same for Louisiana. The cost of housing is the main force for people leaving the state. The construction boom for housing is massive currently. That was in the works before the lockdown. It's not reported anywhere I seen. The house prices got inflated due to the lack of homes during the lockdown (sorry not building anything), then the rental investors buying homes, and finally Hurricane Ida.
another banger video mike!
Excellent Job!
Thx
Good work Mike. Thanks from Philadelphia
It's so sad to see Louisiana on the list. As someone who immigrated to the US, I didn't much choice where to go but I grew up in Louisiana. I see it as my home but with so many people leaving, there's brain drain and they're leaving for the right reasons. You can't defend Louisiana from its corrupt state government, shocking that while other states are thriving, ours isn't. We're abundant in resources yet these companies especially oil companies aren't being taxed for fear of leaving the state. If you check out "Why Louisiana is Poor" video on youtube, you'll see why these oil companies are taxed at 0.1% of the revenue they make. The politicians aren't any better, we'll see how Landry will work out. The intense hurricanes, on top of lack of tourism (louisiana is a straight flat state), high crime rate (crime rate in the US is going down but it is still generally high in Louisiana compared to its neighboring states), lack of job opportunities, terrible education system and more. Some are uncontrollable but most are controllable yet decades of neglect have shaped this state to decay despite its rich resources. The only one keeping us from reaching 50th place is Mississippi.
It's not even funny at this point. Disappointed as a Gen Z when Millennials and Boomers could have prevented this from happening in the first place but nobody cares anymore. The options you have as a Gen Z is leave. Everybody in here seemly gave up to make any change because it takes decades of repairing this broken down system to make it work again. Yet, every other state is moving forward causing us to lag behind even more. Don't get me started with our French constitution that's still use to this day that limits how taxes work. This state is so broken that it has to be fixed on a constitutional level in order to even start.
I'll have to look it up but how is the French constitution different than other state constitutions?
California is so beautiful. I wish Newsome would stop raising minimum wage and raising the cost of food and living. I could never raise kids here but being a single man living here is a dream.
amazing video!
A well-done analysis.
Mike could you do a segment on the most dangerous segments of the interstate highway system?
Pennsylvania used to be a great place to live in up until 2004. Living here all my life in Montgomery County I saw so many things change. When they connected the highway to our roads we got a massive influx of people fleeing from NJ, NY, etc. and our infrastructure cannot handle the volume. Like someone else said in the comments we cannot take any more people in our area and the taxes are ridiculously high around here. People leaving NY and NJ are arguing that it is cheaper to live here, but what they don't realize that instead of fixing their own home states they are making it progressively worse for the natives around here. If you do decide to move here, keep your stupid politics and policies back in your home state.
PA is mostly a red state. Most all rural areas are red. The cities with the highest populations are Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and they vote blue.
Interesting. A well done presentation.
Great video
Moving from Florida to Pennsylvania because the total tax liability in PA is FAR lower in Pennsylvania... Florida may not have an income tax but the sales tax is greater. Additionally, the homeowners insurance in PA is far less expensive (my condo in Florida - not on coast- is $4000 a year whereas, my homeowners insurance is $1000 for a larger condo.)
Additionally, PA was ranked number one in states for retirement because retirement income is not taxed. Another difference is the far lower auto insurance rates in PA. Finally, my HOA in Florida is over $800 per month but in PA the HOA is only $125 a month.
I am in Pa as well and I agree. The only complaint I have is the school property taxes need to be eliminated. There's other ways to fund our schools.
Sales tax is 1% lower in PA, higher if you live in 2 particular counties. What in the world could you be buying that a 1% difference in sales tax could override zero income tax in Florida? Zero income tax means your retirement isn't taxed either.
What a mistake to move somewhere that everyone else is leaving from.
@jaylewis5035 Just Google PA population and you'll see that it has been increasing for last 100 years.
Some years it dips, but 0.08% decline in one year is rather miniscule.
PA is on average not shrinking. 2020 data is higher than 2010, and so forth for the last 100+ years.
$4000 home insurance is insane. I pay $1000 a year in Las Vegas.
I fled NY back in 1989. There was no way I was able to afford a house there. As a child of immigrant parents I totally agree with you that yes, NY depends on immigrants making up some of its' population, but I knew as I was growing up that I would eventually leave the state. I've been in FL ever since.
TY Interesting and informative 👍
Nice to hear your voice again Mike. Did you move to Florida or just a long visit?
No just having a good time so I stayed longer than originally planned. Probably heading out soon.
Great video, sir!
I moved from Oregon to Texas back in August 2023. I missed the nature beauty and the outdoors that Oregon has to offer, but unfortunately, high taxes, high regulations, high cost of living, mediocre wages, politics and people especially in the Portland area have forced me to flee Oregon. However, I'm enjoying it here in the Lone Star State!
Yeah Texas is pretty nice
I would flee Oregon too if I had that kind of Money. I’d move to Colorado. That way I could see the change of seasons without having to deal with as much rain as I do already in Crooked Oregon. And plus! In Colorado! They are also way more honest, caring, giving & friendly than they ever will be in Oregon.
Austin and Dallas yes the rest of the state no 😕
Very well done, and very thoughtful analysis. Honestly, with your explanation, I'm really not surprised. I do think that several of these states might turn there declines around, but 4 states that I doubt will do that are California, Oregon, Illinois, and New York. I give Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Louisiana a shot to stop their decline, and Hawaii, I just don't know enough about their situation, other than the cost of living has been high there for a very long time.
Very well done!
I live in Arkansas, we received a lot of Mississippian , Californian, Floridian, Tennessean, and Louisianian transplants last year. I forgot to add Texans moved here as well. 😁
I am from Illinois (not chicago), and the biggest thing pushing people away are taxes. the 2nd thing is politics along with Springfield is completely focused on Chicago and has seemingly forgotten the rest of the state. Seeing the contrast between the bomming 70s-80s and 2024, it's scary sad how things have went downhill
Chicago is worth mlre than the rest ofnthe state. Why should Illinois pretend otherwise?
It's a crime that Wyoming and Dakota's have Senators. Or that Mississipi, and WV get a vote in congress.
Taxes in Illinois wouldn't be so high if not for D.C. For as long as I can remember (i.e., 1980), Illinois has received one of the very worst deals from D.C. Last I checked, Illinois was receiving the 46th-best deal from D.C.😠😠
"Springfield is completely focused on Chicago and has seemingly forgotten the rest of the state."
OH, PLEASSSE!!🙄🙄 Ugh, not that myth again!🙄🙄 Last I checked, Springfield sends to Central Illinois $1.87 for every dollar that C.I. pays, and Southern Illinois gets back $2.81. As for Chicago, while many N.I.M.B.Y. communities live in splendid isolation, Chicago is the dumping ground for housing projects, Section 8, homeless shelters, cheap apartments, etc.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!😡😡
@@JdeC1994 Taxes are so high because of the pension problems in the state and the democrat's refusal to resolve them.
@@kdiggity11 I basically agree, but D.C. is also to blame. How poor does Illinois have to become for D.C. to start giving us a better deal?
@@JdeC1994What do you mean by DC?
West Virginia has it in its Constitution the budget must b balanced every year.Morgantown, WV is the only large city in US that still boomed during 2008 and Covid lockdown. Small population has more proven coal reserves than any other place on the planet. Has it all 2 Divioion 1 Colleges, a beautiful state 4 seasons v. Good educational systems, the largest mobile radio observatories in world, good roads and electric system lot of water ant railroads n low cost of living.
and MAGA MAGA EVERYWHERE !!!!! Coupled with STILL reeling from the opioid crisis ... YEAH -- DEFINITELY where I want to live!!!
Low cost of living but lack of jobs and opportunities are many reasons people are fleeing WV.
@@Cerby1979 Exactly, it's mostly just a lack of jobs.
West Virginia is a beautiful state with the most down to earth people in the world. The only problem with the state is the lack of jobs. Blessing or curse? You won't have many strangers moving in. That's a blessing.
Beautiful place to visit. Wouldn't want to live there.
Cool Channel Man!
Aiming to move from Wisconsin to Missouri urban life... Leaving WI due to high taxes and UNreported crimes. Moving to MO due to lower taxes and more land.
Once I leave Colorado I am leaving the country. The cost of living in several other countries is far more attractive than any state in the US.
I left CO 10 years ago. I hate that State. I am ready to leave the state I moved to. I think I am getting ready to leave ussa all together now.
One thing to keep in mind with Illinois is that Chicago (or Chicagoland) hasn’t seen significant population loss. Downstate on the other hand does have significant population loss.
True. Went through there last year and a lot of those towns look pretty depressing.
Yes, and that's despite the fact that Springfield subsidizes middle Illinois, and heavily subsidizes Southern Illinois. Meanwhile, Chicago is the dumping ground for housing projects, Section 8, homeless shelters, and cheap apartments.
Chicago's south and west side neighborhoods look just as depressing and more dangerous. This whole state needs to slide into lake Michigan.
@@robertsims3759 Illinois would be much, much better if not for D.C. For generations, D.C. has been giving Illinois one of the worst deals. Last I checked, D.C. was giving Illinois the 46th-best deal.
Thats not true, the city of Chicago saw the most population loss in the state. Nearly half of the population loss, since our peak in 2018, was from the city. Almost every county has experienced a decline in population. High taxes, high cost of living, and no desire to address the pension crisis are the top reasons.
Left WI due to weather and just a straight depressing place to live. Moved to VA and do enjoy it here, cost of living is a little higher but job market is so much better. Lived in OK to, never ever going back there, just nothing there. Did not enjoy my years there. CA, NV, and AZ are on my list to live in as well. Starting to run out of time, aging out I am.
Thanks for the video.
Wisconsin state motto should be alcohol and racism!
@@ninjanik2095It is one of the most equitable states in the nation.
@@Rogerthatideayou cant call yourself equitable when 90 plus percent of the state is pastie white... I left Eau Claire last summer. People there called me (white southerner) rasist names because I asked why we dont have a Chic Fil A or chicken places? They said only ******* eat chicken.
If you’re wanting to live somewhere cheaper, California is definitely not the place to he
I'm surprised Michigan isn't on the list. I fled there decades ago. Ended up in New York and I'm looking to flee from here as soon as I can because my nephew, who makes less than half of what I do, lives in Arizona and had bought 3 houses and I haven't been able to afford to buy one.
I think the Midwest stopped bleeding as much relative to the states listed here. California has really priced itself out of the market. Places like Ohio and Michigan lost who they were gonna lose by this point
Maybe some people from Illinois are moving there.
Houses are expensive here in Arizona but property taxes are low
Arizona is running out of water so good luck
Lived in Illinois and Indiana but will retire to Texas someday. Family members that once lived in Illinois have either passed away or have moved away. Older relatives that moved from Illinois due to health and / or jobs.
Moving from Rochester, NY to Florida is honestly the best decision I ever made. I have been here for 5 years now. Although I do not agree with the political climate here, the other plusses make it worth it. The weather alone changed from 300 days of overcast skies to 320 days of sunshine, no snow, lower taxes and gas prices are also great plusses. No state income tax is fantastic, but the absolute best is the endless opportunities for outdoor activities.
Right, well the political climate here in FL is responsible for most of the “pluses” except the climate. I hope you realize the connection between politics and why people are fleeing blue states for red.
@@scooter5940 Well said!
I could not have said it better. Go woke go broke.
@@scooter5940 He's bringing Rochester NY brainwashed propaganda politics to Florida with him. What a tragedy for Florida.
You probably should be considerate on why you left NY in the first place and actually understand why Florida is doing better than NY. I'm not bashing you but the fact that you mentioned policies is a major driving point of why NY is in the trash right now
My husband was born in Hartford, CT. Since his dad was in the military, he has lived in NC, CA, HI, When he was in the Navy, he lived in FL and back to CA. Now we moved out of CA and live in WI on 80 acres. We are so glad we moved out of the Hellhole that has become CA.
Good to know you were stationed at 29 Palms! I was stationed their was well! Still want to get the Lake Bandini Swim Team shirt~
Oregon surprised me. I have lived in Florida most of my life and can't wait to get out of here...probably to somewhere in the Midwest for the reason you cited: most bang for your buck, especially in retirement.
Superb study of states in decline and the causes!
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BTW - connecticut has entered da chat
I'm from NJ. Both CT and NJ are getting NYC residents that wanted to move out to the suburbs but still have access to the city. They'd be in decline too if not for that.
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wonda whurr DE & RI place
When I was in 12th grade, there was a student who moved down to Florida from New York
All of US in decline, some states worse than others.
I’m surprised Alaska didn’t make this list. I believe it has been losing population. Its trends often mirror the other state not part of the contiguous US, Hawaii, which did make the most. Like Hawaii it has a high cost of living, but unlike Hawaii, it’s cold. I also believe it has a weakening economy, as it’s a resource based economy, making it even more expensive to live there (but more uncomfortable than Hawaii, as it’s cold).
As a Puerto Rican, born and raised in the island, after my retirement I feel nice at home in rural Alabama. Best kept secret!
Puerto Rican by birth, southerner by choice.
Great channel! Keep it going.
People talk bad about the South. But yet it’s the fastest growing region in the United States.
-Lifelong Cocoa, FL resident who is non political.
Yeah, it's the fastest growing because it's cheap to live there. It's gotten soo expensive that people are willing to deal with those bad things.
@@sfdko3291 1)I don’t talk down on other regions of United States unlike other people do the South.
2)There’s bad things across the entire United States. One region of the US isn’t better than the other.
Yes all the people tired of cold weather go south, when in reality there are plenty other areas in the US that supply less crazy winters and offer the same thing. I feel like many older folks moving think of the beach as the main allure alongside warmer weather. However florida last I heard is having issues with insurance for houses because of the natural disasters occurring there.
It attracts low income people with its ample low income jobs.
Its cheap
Not a flex
The State governments in Oregon and California have lost their minds and are driving people out.
Seven large national forests comprise a great deal of Oregon, from the map. Majority of the population is in the Big cities, creating the problems.
29 Palms huh? Thank you for your service Marine . May God bless you and yours !
I live in NJ, but lived in PA for 7 years. Seeing the conditions in PA cities, especially Reading, Philly, and many smaller towns in the Wyoming and Lehigh Valleys,the Rust Belt comes to mind. Closed mines, foundries, factories, etc.
Mike you mentioned the Midwest being the best bang for your buck in your opinion. *Precisely* why I'm leaving Illinois is because the Winters suck AND it's not affordable (at least with the entry level jobs I work). My question, where would you recommend someone go who let's say is early in their career and is location independent, but doesn't have a ton of income?
You talking about somewhere else in the Midwest or just somewhere else anywhere in the country?
@@MileageMike485 Anywhere in the country. If you had to start over in your twenties right now where would you go just starting out?
@@99_Planet To build myself up I would look at lower cost of living, rapidly growing places. Nashville, Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, Huntsville, AL, Northwest Arkansas, Kansas City, or some north Atlanta suburbs. Places with good jobs, lots of amenities, but not crazy expensive yet. Dallas or Houston might work too.
I would expect that a closer look at New York's migration problem would show upstate and western NY bleeding population: No jobs, NYC based taxation and business regulation and a complete mismanagement of rural needs by urban-centric politicians in Albany.
If the new immigrants have farming experience, arrange for temp jobs for them and lend them decent sized travel trailer or rv so rest of family can come along. They can try different types of farms in different regions of the state. When they find crops or animals that look favorable and fellow countrymen/women, you have made a sale. Remember how Chobani brand yogurt got started.
@@ninatrabona4629 what an insult to the American dairy farmers in New York who have been driven out of business by excessive taxation and regulation and now you are suggesting the US and NY government give money/land/trailers to illegal immigrants to farm upstate?
It is exactly this line of thinking that has given birth to the rising conservative populist movement that in 2024 will see Donald Trump win the presidency by such an overwhelming number that no amount of democrat lawfare or election interference will be able to deny.
That random shot of Columbia ave in Lancaster city threw me off. I recognized it right away. I moved from Pennsylvania 3 years ago I now live in Myrtle Beach SC. Not often does Lancaster get featured in anything that isn’t Amish haha
Same here, I moved from Pittsburgh to MB 3 years ago. Best move ever! Hello from Forestbrook.
Hey Mike, my grandparents lived in 29 Palms, I was stationed in Tustin while I was in the USMC.
Containment Area for Relocated Yankees. It’s nothing new; I’ve heard Cary called that ever since I was a kid in the ‘90s. It’s just gotten a whole lot bigger since then.
I wish ATL would stop growing, back in the 80's the metro area was three counties, now it's eight counties and counting.
(Fulton, DeKalb, Cobb, Gwinett, Rockdale, Clayton, Henry, Douglas)
You can probably add Forsyth and Hall to that list.
@@BigJFindAWay I grew up half in Gilmer County and half in Spalding County. In a few years I'll probably have to add Fayette County to that list, too. Forsyth definitely should go on there, not sure about Hall.
Atlanta is a cesspool with gang shootings and antifa "peaceful protests".
The actual city of Atlanta is like Portland, Seattle , Memphis and Baltimore now, people are going to the suburbs.
@@cumulus1234 I should write to my State Senate representative to enact some kind of a green belt.
Excellent content...Subbed !
I'm one of those fleeing CA. I lived there for 45 years, and loved it for the first 40, but it seemed to be crashing and burning, so I got out. We moved to TX, and while my wife agreed with the need to go, she was grumpy, at first. But she goes back regularly for work to Palo Alto, and is now very glad we moved.
I just stumbled across this site. Demographics are an interest of mine and are probably the best way to judge the effects of political leadership. Just tracking birth trends, longevity and such things will tell you who good leaders are on a local, national or international level. I hope you extend your demographic studies into other areas. Thanks for the information.
If you haven’t heard of him yet, I suggest you check out Peter Zeihan. He’s a professional demographics analyst. His credentials: he wrote a book in 2014 saying that Russia would invade Ukraine on or before March 2022. Nobody believed it until it happened.
I expect Florida to be on your list next year. So many people can no longer afford housing and home insurance is getting prohibitively expensive if you can even find companies willing to write policies with all the hurricanes.
One can dream
True, presently Florida is one of the few states housing supply is overly meeting demand, causing homes to stay on the market longer.
I know someone who fled Florida for Kentucky, so that's one way to know many will do the same.
FL and TX face coastline problems from rising tides besides storms. Add increasing temperatures, like how many 110 degree days do you need, and that will dry out everything giving risk of bigger fires. Utility bills?
@@larrywillard844Haven't tides always risen?