Cadena bossing is always so fun to watch, its nice to have a more detailed explanation on the strategies at play. Off topic, do you have a playlist of the music you played in this vid / your first 101 vid? Really liked the songs in both
Thank! Big fan, thank you for the sub, yeah there's a lot of things at play and strategies involved for different situations. Cadena is definitely not a boring class haha and yeah here are the playlists in order the songs are played. Glad you enjoyed the vids/music! cadena 101 playlist; WYS - Snowman Fatb - Cotton Cloud rook1e x tender spring - the places we used to walk imagiro - wool gloves Glimlip x Yasper - I'm sorry mell-ø - Nova goosetaf x the fields tape x francis - carried away j'san x epektase - snow & sand part 2 playlist; Mutual - Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru Motive - Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru A Friend's Reminiscence (Kayou Remix) - Naruto Shippuden Greed | Haikyuu!! Stepping Out, One Step at a Time - Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru
How often should you be seeing the second half of thrash? The main issue I have with this class is making sure I can stay in place in stationary bossing situations like binds or lucid phase 3 or the tiny horntail platform (if horntail didn't just get 1 shot) or something while also always having enough skills off cd to keep canceling thrash. (would be fine if brick didn't move you or didn't exist, since you could go weave Thrash -> Scimitar -> Thrash -> Shotgun -> Claw in between Thrash -> Dagger -> Bomb -> Thrash and Thrash -> Shuriken -> Thrash -> Bat forever without moving or having to use full thrash if that makes sense) If this isn't even something I'm supposed to be doing and it's ok to use the whole thrash while waiting for enough skills to be off cd in order to link them in a way that doesn't fling you forward or backward then that makes a lot more sense but idk how the class is supposed to be played
It's fine to use all of thrash between skill cds, optimally if you're using all weapon arts skills as soon as they come off cd you'll be recasting maelstrom as well between downtime(you really shouldn't wait more than 3s between maelstroms ideally since maelstrom still does more lines than just holding down thrash at 0as) but it just takes practice and getting comfortable with the class. There's nothing wrong with waiting on some skills, yes it's not technically optimal but you won't really see significant effects of doing this unless it's in longer runs, i would still try to use pursuit to cancel bomb/scim/shotgun movement if their counter movement skills are on CD as long as you're still linking thrash as well to get the 15%fd bonus.
@@ProcidaGMS tyvm appreciate it alot! Didn't know you had to reapply maelstrom that often / that pursuit canceling was actually something you were supposed to do... Also I rewatched the video in slow motion and while I couldn't really tell due to transparency and the % cd skip, it seemed like you were using full thrash alot, is that to be expected in fights like this?
@@funnycathehe mm it depends, there's a lot of stuff that can kill you in cvel and thrash has a large hitbox so that's why it was used more often. But yeah you don't want to do pursuit cancels all the time but for one offs when you don't have any other skills off cd it's fine.
What was your gear in this video? I see that your main stat was very low for this so I’m just curious to know if I don’t have max nodes, what stat I should be at to solo vellum is
Mmmm either maelstrom or void strike probably, they will both help with grinding as well as bossing. You can hold off on grandis goddess blessing until later but they are all pretty important.
Do you need attack speed to combo? sometimes I spam after thrash and it still doesn't go off (until after/too late) or until the 2nd chain comes out, and there are times where I just do it immediately
@@ProcidaGMS how much ping do you play with as well if you don't mind? or does it matter? I just cant get it down consistently. even if I repeat it right after I just did it, a different result happens. Im at 270ping to the servers. and in the 3rd video you just effortlessly tap them all in a row with no second presses and no real delay between presses (looks near instant), but when I do the same only 1 goes off in a combo if any.
How do you link the brick with claw? Sometimes you do shotgun brick then claw, but usually for me the claw says it’s too low. Also I tried to do shotgun claw, but I can’t always do claw. I would try to time it right? But I can’t always do it. I tried to hold claw right after shotgun as you showed in your other video, but maybe I made a mistake. Thanks for the help! Trying to figure out what mistake I made can be hard for me
You may have to go into keyboard settings and adjust the repeat delay on your keyboard. Default is usually pretty slow but that should fix the issue with holding claw after shotgun. As for brick > shotgun, if you use brick as soon as you can after shotgun, brick will cancel and you will maintain shotgun movement which will allow you to use claw.
Mmm it depends, if you're close to hitting the damage cap p1 is fine or whatever you feel most comfortable with. But once in phase 2 you can just press last resort a 3rd time to toggle it off if you're about to get hit by something that will kill you.
imgur.com/Gy0EVEr Those are the link skills I use for most bosses. However, I will occasionally swap out the Cygnus link skill for either Resistance link (8s upon reviving) or the Illium link (gives %dmg based on how much you move). Some links are personal preference, i.e cygnus link gives more status resistance which shortens stun duration from debris which is nice in lotus/gloom.
Oh the 5th/6th are reign and beatdown. Reign tricore boosts thrash as well and there were 2 open slots so I figured might as well level beatdown but it sounds like you're missing veteran shadow dealer tricore which is a really good one to have for burst.
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Such a masterclass, love this guide! I’m starting on my cadena now, can’t wait to master it :)
Cadena bossing is always so fun to watch, its nice to have a more detailed explanation on the strategies at play.
Off topic, do you have a playlist of the music you played in this vid / your first 101 vid? Really liked the songs in both
Thank! Big fan, thank you for the sub, yeah there's a lot of things at play and strategies involved for different situations. Cadena is definitely not a boring class haha and yeah here are the playlists in order the songs are played. Glad you enjoyed the vids/music!
cadena 101 playlist;
WYS - Snowman
Fatb - Cotton Cloud
rook1e x tender spring - the places we used to walk
imagiro - wool gloves
Glimlip x Yasper - I'm sorry
mell-ø - Nova
goosetaf x the fields tape x francis - carried away
j'san x epektase - snow & sand
part 2 playlist;
Mutual - Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru
Motive - Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru
A Friend's Reminiscence (Kayou Remix) - Naruto Shippuden
Greed | Haikyuu!!
Stepping Out, One Step at a Time - Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru
@@ProcidaGMS Awesome, thanks! :)
As a NL main, i swear playing this job will give me a nightmare
How often should you be seeing the second half of thrash? The main issue I have with this class is making sure I can stay in place in stationary bossing situations like binds or lucid phase 3 or the tiny horntail platform (if horntail didn't just get 1 shot) or something while also always having enough skills off cd to keep canceling thrash.
(would be fine if brick didn't move you or didn't exist, since you could go weave Thrash -> Scimitar -> Thrash -> Shotgun -> Claw in between Thrash -> Dagger -> Bomb -> Thrash and Thrash -> Shuriken -> Thrash -> Bat forever without moving or having to use full thrash if that makes sense)
If this isn't even something I'm supposed to be doing and it's ok to use the whole thrash while waiting for enough skills to be off cd in order to link them in a way that doesn't fling you forward or backward then that makes a lot more sense but idk how the class is supposed to be played
It's fine to use all of thrash between skill cds, optimally if you're using all weapon arts skills as soon as they come off cd you'll be recasting maelstrom as well between downtime(you really shouldn't wait more than 3s between maelstroms ideally since maelstrom still does more lines than just holding down thrash at 0as) but it just takes practice and getting comfortable with the class. There's nothing wrong with waiting on some skills, yes it's not technically optimal but you won't really see significant effects of doing this unless it's in longer runs, i would still try to use pursuit to cancel bomb/scim/shotgun movement if their counter movement skills are on CD as long as you're still linking thrash as well to get the 15%fd bonus.
@@ProcidaGMS tyvm appreciate it alot! Didn't know you had to reapply maelstrom that often / that pursuit canceling was actually something you were supposed to do...
Also I rewatched the video in slow motion and while I couldn't really tell due to transparency and the % cd skip, it seemed like you were using full thrash alot, is that to be expected in fights like this?
@@funnycathehe mm it depends, there's a lot of stuff that can kill you in cvel and thrash has a large hitbox so that's why it was used more often. But yeah you don't want to do pursuit cancels all the time but for one offs when you don't have any other skills off cd it's fine.
@@ProcidaGMS ok thanks again I appreciate the help very much!!
could you do a video of gollux without 1 shotting it? i'm having difficulty on first phase
hi how did you set up your nohboard to show skill icons like that?
hey, i'm having trouble getting the flashjump reset after using pursuit - is it ping lag or an atk speed issue or smth?
ah i didn't realise you had to reactivate it
Sorry for the late reply but yeah you have to initiate the movement from pursuit first, glad you got it sorted out!
@@ProcidaGMS thanks for the reply! also, do you remember which map you trained at in arcana?
@@Duckitable mmm I just trained in clp until lv245 then i went straight to vc3 in moonbridge. Ik some people use lp1 and mts2 though.
What was your gear in this video? I see that your main stat was very low for this so I’m just curious to know if I don’t have max nodes, what stat I should be at to solo vellum is
which active skill should you try to enhance first out of the 4 that cadenas have with the experienced nodes?
Mmmm either maelstrom or void strike probably, they will both help with grinding as well as bossing. You can hold off on grandis goddess blessing until later but they are all pretty important.
Do you need attack speed to combo? sometimes I spam after thrash and it still doesn't go off (until after/too late) or until the 2nd chain comes out, and there are times where I just do it immediately
No, it's just timing, either going too fast/ slow or a familiar buff is going off and eating your inputs
@@ProcidaGMS how much ping do you play with as well if you don't mind? or does it matter? I just cant get it down consistently. even if I repeat it right after I just did it, a different result happens.
Im at 270ping to the servers. and in the 3rd video you just effortlessly tap them all in a row with no second presses and no real delay between presses (looks near instant), but when I do the same only 1 goes off in a combo if any.
@Jonathan Deng I'm on 28 ping but ping doesn't make a difference for skill linking just delays on cannon/maelstrom
Do you press left ctrl or right ctrl key for pursuit?
Right ctrl
Modena GMS thanks! Really good mechanics -inspired me as an aspiring Cadena! What’s the damage skin here?
How do you link the brick with claw? Sometimes you do shotgun brick then claw, but usually for me the claw says it’s too low. Also I tried to do shotgun claw, but I can’t always do claw. I would try to time it right? But I can’t always do it. I tried to hold claw right after shotgun as you showed in your other video, but maybe I made a mistake. Thanks for the help! Trying to figure out what mistake I made can be hard for me
You may have to go into keyboard settings and adjust the repeat delay on your keyboard. Default is usually pretty slow but that should fix the issue with holding claw after shotgun. As for brick > shotgun, if you use brick as soon as you can after shotgun, brick will cancel and you will maintain shotgun movement which will allow you to use claw.
Thanks so much! You’re so knowledgeable!!
This would help if I wouldn’t freeze every few seconds :D
Great video! Would you say you will always use last resort for phase 2 and only phase 2?
Mmm it depends, if you're close to hitting the damage cap p1 is fine or whatever you feel most comfortable with. But once in phase 2 you can just press last resort a 3rd time to toggle it off if you're about to get hit by something that will kill you.
Mind sharing the link skills you use for bossing? And what links are good vs what bosses etc and thx for the video!
imgur.com/Gy0EVEr
Those are the link skills I use for most bosses. However, I will occasionally swap out the Cygnus link skill for either Resistance link (8s upon reviving) or the Illium link (gives %dmg based on how much you move). Some links are personal preference, i.e cygnus link gives more status resistance which shortens stun duration from debris which is nice in lotus/gloom.
What are your 5th and 6th tricores? So far I have 2 sets of the 6 skills - bat, brick, thrash, dagger, scimitar, shotgun.
Oh the 5th/6th are reign and beatdown. Reign tricore boosts thrash as well and there were 2 open slots so I figured might as well level beatdown but it sounds like you're missing veteran shadow dealer tricore which is a really good one to have for burst.
Bro I saw 6:05 and that was godly