Today india has a good relation with western world. We should raise voice our roma people behind western leaders. Roma people are indian. We Proud of them.
i as an indian love your connet and apeal to the indian outside india to help Rama indians. give them jobs and business if possible this will be a great help to our brothers.
Indian people goes to any cornor in the world but he didn't forget his roots.... Indian people always loves India from bottom of their hearts...Thanks for this video...
Wonderful presentation. Im Sinti, Calé, Serbian, Dutch usw. and have lived in India 3 times maybe 1 1/2 years mostly HP and Ladakh but traveled everywhere by Bullet also and feel also at home as Dr Hancock suggests. Even my mother gave me second name of Dana, her grandmother named Amrita. With our diaspora we are so varied now but in our heart we are Indian. ps have B pos blood group too....
I think this issue has to be taken up by some big social media influencers in India and abroad..to increase the awareness about this social phenomenon..
It is such a joy listening to this beautiful human being. I pray all his hard work and dedication for Roma people will bring some justice. Love and respect to you sir.
Body part names are same etc. Dowry system, kanyadaan, article name like kast -kath (काठ, लकड़ी), बकरा, बकरी, Ben - bahan, prah - Bhai, there are lots of things are similar to them.
@@BadRomaMan1 Opre Roma is a Romani language phrase which means "Up the Roma". It's like a call for the Roma to stand up and defend what is theirs. It was first used in the Romani folk song Djelem Djelem.
Check out the latest interview of Dr Ian Hancock on Lokmaanya connect. Mark Kinra discusses the holocaust of the Roma people by Nazi Germany - ruclips.net/video/_zqAMseZmoY/видео.html
Few years ago, when the Roma (Gypsy) Taxi driver in Frankfurt to my amazement almost understood my conversation with my wife in the native tongue of Rajasthan, a north western state in India, I decided to work on this and find out how.
Since the Taxi Driver understood the language of Rajasthan, I went through the history of Rajasthan or Rajputana as it was originally called and discovered that there was a huge exodus of the tired soldiers of the army of great Rajput King Prithviraj Chauhan around 1050 AD who, as the history says, fought 17 wars with Mohammed Ghauri. Most left with women folks leaving empty villages. Most Roma belong to the fine Rajput warrior caste and others were farmers called Jat who also were in the army.
While the great king was keen on continuing battles, many soldiers did not want to fight more wars and stayed at home. For a Rajput staying at home during war was a stigma. They were taunted for staying home at the time of war.
Therefore, as a folk song of Rajasthan says, they left their native land in groups. They left from no other part of India. Some went west and are called Gypsies or Roma now and some went down to south India where they still are in their red and yellow color clothes and with huge moustache. You can see them on google by clicking “Lambada in south India ". I am from Rajasthan but live in south Indian city of Hyderabad and hence see Lambadas daily.
I was further shocked again when our Gypsy (Lambada) maid mostly understood an old Hungarian Roma lady talking in Romani about Nazi atrocities on a BBC program on TV while I understood it by reading the English captions. Apparently, the two ladies 9000 miles away now spoke same language spoken about 1000 years ago in their land of origin. We being from Rajasthan still use many of their words.
On the way to west, Roma took words from Persian like bibi and many other tongues including Greek (drost for road) and from Armenian and so on. Also, few joined them on the way from Sindh, another Indian province, now in Pakistan. They are still called Sinti within Roma and words like laklo, lakli, chavo are from Sindhi.
They somehow lost their surnames of fine Rajput warrior clans. Roma may try to find surnames like Sisodia, Chauhan, Shekhawat, Nainavat Rathore, etc. However, I found only one exception in Poland. One Roma has Mirga as surname which he said was not Polish but Roma. Rajputs have a surname, Mirdha. I am sure this must be same. But they kept first Indian names until 19th century like Amos Bihari and his daughter Panna Cinkova, both great Roma musicians from Hungary. Panna meaning Emerald is a pure Rajasthani name not used in other parts of India. You may look in Google for “Panna Cinka . If they were not Indians, why otherwise would they have Indian names in Europe in the year 1711?
Today Roma use many of the words from Rajasthani (or Marwari) and Hindi, both of Sanskrit origin. Few are ek do trin nak(nose) bal(hair) angusth(finger) bersh(year) diwas(day), prabhat(morning), gandh( smell)sassu,sussro ( mother and father in law, from rajasthani) saalo , Sali (brother and sister in law) from Rajasthani) chora(boy) chori(girl) cior(chor, meaning thief)) gia sov, thalle, upral purano( old) dukh, kasht, tato, langhal(lame) maang, des, lajja and so on. About half are from Rajasthani and rest from Hindi both of which originate from Sanskrit. I know hundreds. There are thousands. Luis Mori, another Roma has sent me a huge list of Romani words which I match with my Roma maid's vocabulary. Sometimes grammar has changed to European style, like we would say sov gia and Roma would say gia sov. Same meaning though. Has slept. Also, all Indian languages including today's Rajasthani has two yous, one for Junior and one for senior. Romani and the language of Lambada even today have only one you which is "tu "used for Juniors and for very close ones which must have been so 1000 years ago.
Romani words are from pre-Muslim era in India and hence pure Sanskrit like hiv (him in Sanskrit) for snow or ice is used while we in India now say barf which is Persian. Please go to the following in to see more. “Romani an Indian lost Language by Adriano, an Italian Roma from whom I have learned much and also“Roma girl from Kosovo goes to India"
All Roma had mustache which was necessary for Rajput warriors. Purity codes of Roma were till recently practiced in India like Roma breaking the plate if animal licked it. My mother used to give the plates to beggars if our dog ever licked it even once. Also, food once served on table but not eaten does not go back to Fridge or saved for eating later. That is why death rate within Roma during great European plague was so low as claimed by scholars.
Roma had also carried our proverbs like "while choosing a daughter in law, believe your ears more than eyes” meaning reputation of the girl's family was more important than her beauty. Another common proverb is “If the road is crooked, you can't walk straight.
Roma eventually lost their religion, quite understandably but Sara kali of southern France is a Hindu deity of Goddess kali favourite of Rajputs. The deity is immersed in water body every year like we do in India. The Vatican has not recognized this deity as it has no link to Christianity. Romani also has an unusual word & quot;trishul & quot; from Sanskrit and Hindi meaning a spear with three fingers. This spear is associated with Hindu God Mahadev or Shiva and the war cry of Rajputs Regiment in India till today is & quot; Har har Mahadev.
Please see on You tube "Dr. Ian Hancock: Keynote Address at Romani Studies Conference Dr. Hancock who is a Roma makes very scholastic analysis of Romani history from European side. He successfully dismantles myths like Roma are old Jews or from Egypt or came from within the earth. He establishes that Roma indeed came from India. However he has not said much about which part of India are they from and which language from India they speak. He only mentions "Indian Language" while there is nothing like Indian Language. We have hundreds of languages. India had hundreds of independent kingdoms. Rajputana, as Rajasthan was called then had many kingdoms too. Prithviraj Chauhan was the king of Ajmer in central Rajasthan from whose army Roma came.
He also links Romani with Sanskrit while truth is that Romani has words from Rajasthani and Hindi alone both of which originate from Sanskrit. Romani is made of languages which have Sanskrit base and not directly from Sanskrit. There are many words in Romani which none else from India except those from Rajasthan will understand like tato meaning hot. He also says Roma are Doms who burn dead bodies which is certainly not true. Doms live about 1000 miles away from Rajasthan and are dark skinned.
Many Roma have come to Delhi and Jaipur in Rajasthan to get their DNA tested and were doubly assured of their Rajasthan roots. Also, one may see Romani Dances in India-Kalbelia of Rajasthan which is same as Flamingo dance of the Roma. Even the dress of the dancers are same.
As a student in the US during seventies, I saw some slightly brown students speaking language somewhat familiar to me. They said they were new Roma migrants to the US from Spain but I did not know about Roma at that time.
I have received many mails from some Roma stating Roma were Doms and untouchables from India and so on. This should not be true. First, there are no Doms in Rajasthan. Second, Roma who came to south still have mostly Rajput surnames or Gotra and very few Bhil (a jungle tribe, but soldiers too) surnames. Gotras or lineages dont change in India. Third, down trodden and timid would not venture leaving home to travel thousands of miles and fourth, Doms are very dark even for Indian standards while Roma are not. Fifth, Romani has many war related words including a word for prisoner of war as Dr. Hancock says. Only a martial clan would use and keep alive these words.
There should be no doubt that Roma are our lost pral and Pena (We would say pra and behna). Hats off to them to keep the language and culture alive even after 50 generations while humanity in the entire world now melts away in two generations.
I am in contact with many European Roma from whom I gather some new facts time to time. I have also gathered the above information from history of Rajasthan. For more information you can what’s app me on +91-9440805300.
The taxi driver gave some other Roma's a ride and he said you did not pay him you said Park here and you will be right back and you ran off you didn't pay him if he is your brother why do you treat him like that
Very authentic information from Rajasthan however we can observe that over the same time also later & much earlier also similar migration had taken from other provinces like Sind Punjab. Infact in ancient times ie 4 millenia earlier Sind & Punjab had faced massive migration both outward & inwards aswell due to continuous drought & rain scarcity for centuries which also led to drying up of saraswati river & making substantial change in innumerable human settlements .
Oh goodness gracious me I am so so proud of these wonderful Indians for starting Indian immigration to other countries did they visa or arranged marriage certificate at border control in the history of the miration
Gypsy words ETYMOLOGY Is..GIBE SEA.. It means the people who have..Sea of Knowledge on their Tongue mean Jibe.. It is the main source of preserving knowledge for the thousands of years.. Isn't it.. its very true and authentic.. Because if one say.. Gypsy means the people who wonder from one place to anothe place.. If this principal applied for everyone then history shows that era was the era.. Very human group goes very places that gives them a sense of security or the warlords roamed to conquer the places or they roamed.. Do our so called intellectual called them.. Gypsies or Romani.. No. Because the people who are able to keep record in writing or any other way.. We so called Gypsies or Rama or Banjara or lamani.. Lamani.. Lavante.. These are very respectful words or terms that historian given to us.. Nothing insulating meaning comes out of that words. Lama becomes.. Lamani.... Etc etc..A lot to say. Our Buddhist monks goes all-over the world to spread the holy Buddha Dhamma... they traveled . Roamed very places to serve humanity... Crafted caves.. and to Craft buddhist caves our business community Rich people provided funds to craft caves..A lot to say.. Need scientific way to think.
They are strongly hindus still many have saved their original culture don't lie. They were forced out by Turks as they fought against the invaders during islamic invasions they were expelled, their lands were taken over so be nice to fellow human n stop lying
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Today india has a good relation with western world. We should raise voice our roma people behind western leaders. Roma people are indian. We Proud of them.
Im Romani people, Im litll bit understand English, but i love my brother Indian and sister india ❤️❤️❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
We love romani people...god bless .. Jai hind jay romanis
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You are NRI . Please back India all .
Om Namoh Shivaya
Love from India to my Roma brothers and sisters!
i as an indian love your connet and apeal to the indian outside india to help Rama indians. give them jobs and business if possible this will be a great help to our brothers.
Even if they have no talent ? 😂
@@Naveenkumar-qy5wy What do you mean by talent , anyone can develop skill , and there are many types of jobs
Thankyou gentlemen for helping to educate people. From a New Zealander with Roma blood. Opre Roma!
Spanish calé roma or english romanichal?
@@salsenko Our Grandmother had Spanish Cale' blood.
Opre Roma 🙏🏽💙❤💚
Opre mean up? We have the similar word in Hindi "upar"
@@amangupta-ll3rs as far as I know opre means "rise" so it is very similar.
Worship of Maa Kali and immersion in the Ganga is what we do in Bengal too!
Indian people goes to any cornor in the world but he didn't forget his roots.... Indian people always loves India from bottom of their hearts...Thanks for this video...
I’m Roma I always wonder we’re I’m from and who am I as a Romani we’re Roma come from it’s nice to see some history, thank yous god bless
Wonderful presentation. Im Sinti, Calé, Serbian, Dutch usw. and have lived in India 3 times maybe 1 1/2 years mostly HP and Ladakh but traveled everywhere by Bullet also and feel also at home as Dr Hancock suggests. Even my mother gave me second name of Dana, her grandmother named Amrita. With our diaspora we are so varied now but in our heart we are Indian. ps have B pos blood group too....
I`m of Egyptian,Persian,Gujarati,Austro-Hungarian,British,Romanian,Greek,Italian and Tamil Romani descent on my dad`s side!
Never trust a leftist Marxist
I think this issue has to be taken up by some big social media influencers in India and abroad..to increase the awareness about this social phenomenon..
Salute to dr. Hancock
Awesome!
Regarding funding why not pass the hat in India. We would love to contribute. 💕
Thanks for sharing this interview.
It is such a joy listening to this beautiful human being. I pray all his hard work and dedication for Roma people will bring some justice. Love and respect to you sir.
Indian govt should raise voice for Roma's
Body part names are same etc. Dowry system, kanyadaan, article name like kast -kath (काठ, लकड़ी), बकरा, बकरी, Ben - bahan, prah - Bhai, there are lots of things are similar to them.
Bro but dowry isn't itself an indian custom. I mean it came from outside.
@@irondisulfide7480 yes came from arab
OPRE ROMA! JAI HIND!
India and Romani best friends! 🇮🇳😄😄😄😄😄
could you tell me what oh pray Roma actually means could you translate it for me or give me a definition of it
@@BadRomaMan1 Opre Roma is a Romani language phrase which means "Up the Roma". It's like a call for the Roma to stand up and defend what is theirs. It was first used in the Romani folk song Djelem Djelem.
Very emotional video ...
Thanks a lot for sharing these details about the ROMA ppl....
बहुत जबरदस्त 🙏🙏
Check out the latest interview of Dr Ian Hancock on Lokmaanya connect. Mark Kinra discusses the holocaust of the Roma people by Nazi Germany - ruclips.net/video/_zqAMseZmoY/видео.html
Roma aroma! The Indian fragrance for the world!!
Excellent!
Lovely people
Few years ago, when the Roma (Gypsy) Taxi driver in Frankfurt to my amazement almost understood my conversation with my wife in the native tongue of Rajasthan, a north western state in India, I decided to work on this and find out how.
Since the Taxi Driver understood the language of Rajasthan, I went through the history of Rajasthan or Rajputana as it was originally called and discovered that there was a huge exodus of the tired soldiers of the army of great Rajput King Prithviraj Chauhan around 1050 AD who, as the history says, fought 17 wars with Mohammed Ghauri. Most left with women folks leaving empty villages. Most Roma belong to the fine Rajput warrior caste and others were farmers called Jat who also were in the army.
While the great king was keen on continuing battles, many soldiers did not want to fight more wars and stayed at home. For a Rajput staying at home during war was a stigma. They were taunted for staying home at the time of war.
Therefore, as a folk song of Rajasthan says, they left their native land in groups. They left from no other part of India. Some went west and are called Gypsies or Roma now and some went down to south India where they still are in their red and yellow color clothes and with huge moustache. You can see them on google by clicking “Lambada in south India ". I am from Rajasthan but live in south Indian city of Hyderabad and hence see Lambadas daily.
I was further shocked again when our Gypsy (Lambada) maid mostly understood an old Hungarian Roma lady talking in Romani about Nazi atrocities on a BBC program on TV while I understood it by reading the English captions. Apparently, the two ladies 9000 miles away now spoke same language spoken about 1000 years ago in their land of origin. We being from Rajasthan still use many of their words.
On the way to west, Roma took words from Persian like bibi and many other tongues including Greek (drost for road) and from Armenian and so on. Also, few joined them on the way from Sindh, another Indian province, now in Pakistan. They are still called Sinti within Roma and words like laklo, lakli, chavo are from Sindhi.
They somehow lost their surnames of fine Rajput warrior clans. Roma may try to find surnames like Sisodia, Chauhan, Shekhawat, Nainavat Rathore, etc. However, I found only one exception in Poland. One Roma has Mirga as surname which he said was not Polish but Roma. Rajputs have a surname, Mirdha. I am sure this must be same.
But they kept first Indian names until 19th century like Amos Bihari and his daughter Panna Cinkova, both great Roma musicians from Hungary. Panna meaning Emerald is a pure Rajasthani name not used in other parts of India. You may look in Google for “Panna Cinka . If they were not Indians, why otherwise would they have Indian names in Europe in the year 1711?
Today Roma use many of the words from Rajasthani (or Marwari) and Hindi, both of Sanskrit origin. Few are ek do trin nak(nose) bal(hair) angusth(finger) bersh(year) diwas(day), prabhat(morning), gandh( smell)sassu,sussro ( mother and father in law, from rajasthani) saalo , Sali (brother and sister in law) from Rajasthani) chora(boy) chori(girl) cior(chor, meaning thief)) gia sov, thalle, upral purano( old) dukh, kasht, tato, langhal(lame) maang, des, lajja and so on. About half are from Rajasthani and rest from Hindi both of which originate from Sanskrit. I know hundreds. There are thousands. Luis Mori, another Roma has sent me a huge list of Romani words which I match with my Roma maid's vocabulary. Sometimes grammar has changed to European style, like we would say sov gia and Roma would say gia sov. Same meaning though. Has slept. Also, all Indian languages including today's Rajasthani has two yous, one for Junior and one for senior. Romani and the language of Lambada even today have only one you which is "tu "used for Juniors and for very close ones which must have been so 1000 years ago.
Romani words are from pre-Muslim era in India and hence pure Sanskrit like hiv (him in
Sanskrit) for snow or ice is used while we in India now say barf which is Persian. Please go to the following in to see more. “Romani an Indian lost Language by Adriano, an Italian Roma from whom I have learned much and also“Roma girl from Kosovo goes to India"
All Roma had mustache which was necessary for Rajput warriors. Purity codes of Roma were till recently practiced in India like Roma breaking the plate if animal licked it. My mother used to give the plates to beggars if our dog ever licked it even once. Also, food once served on table but not eaten does not go back to Fridge or saved for eating later. That is why death rate within Roma during great European plague was so low as claimed by scholars.
Roma had also carried our proverbs like "while choosing a daughter in law, believe your ears more than eyes” meaning reputation of the girl's family was more important than her beauty. Another common proverb is “If the road is crooked, you can't walk straight.
Roma eventually lost their religion, quite understandably but Sara kali of southern France is a Hindu deity of Goddess kali favourite of Rajputs. The deity is immersed in water body every year like we do in India. The Vatican has not recognized this deity as it has no link to Christianity. Romani also has an unusual word & quot;trishul & quot; from Sanskrit and Hindi meaning a spear with three fingers. This spear is associated with Hindu God Mahadev or Shiva and the war cry of Rajputs Regiment in India till today is & quot; Har har Mahadev.
Please see on You tube "Dr. Ian Hancock: Keynote Address at Romani Studies Conference Dr. Hancock who is a Roma makes very scholastic analysis of Romani history from European side. He successfully dismantles myths like Roma are old Jews or from Egypt or came from within the earth. He establishes that Roma indeed came from India. However he has not said much about which part of India are they from and which language from India they speak. He only mentions "Indian Language" while there is nothing like Indian Language. We have hundreds of languages. India had hundreds of independent kingdoms. Rajputana, as Rajasthan was called then had many kingdoms too. Prithviraj Chauhan was the king of Ajmer in central Rajasthan from whose army Roma came.
He also links Romani with Sanskrit while truth is that Romani has words from Rajasthani and Hindi alone both of which originate from Sanskrit. Romani is made of languages which have Sanskrit base and not directly from Sanskrit. There are many words in Romani which none else from India except those from Rajasthan will understand like tato meaning hot. He also says Roma are Doms who burn dead bodies which is certainly not true. Doms live about 1000 miles away from Rajasthan and are dark skinned.
Many Roma have come to Delhi and Jaipur in Rajasthan to get their DNA tested and were doubly assured of their Rajasthan roots. Also, one may see Romani Dances in India-Kalbelia of Rajasthan which is same as Flamingo dance of the Roma. Even the dress of the dancers are same.
As a student in the US during seventies, I saw some slightly brown students speaking language somewhat familiar to me. They said they were new Roma migrants to the US from Spain but I did not know about Roma at that time.
I have received many mails from some Roma stating Roma were Doms and untouchables from India and so on. This should not be true. First, there are no Doms in Rajasthan. Second, Roma who came to south still have mostly Rajput surnames or Gotra and very few Bhil (a jungle tribe, but soldiers too) surnames. Gotras or lineages dont change in India. Third, down trodden and timid would not venture leaving home to travel thousands of miles and fourth, Doms are very dark even for Indian standards while Roma are not. Fifth, Romani has many war related words including a word for prisoner of war as Dr. Hancock says. Only a martial clan would use and keep alive these words.
There should be no doubt that Roma are our lost pral and Pena (We would say pra and behna). Hats off to them to keep the language and culture alive even after 50 generations while humanity in the entire world now melts away in two generations.
I am in contact with many European Roma from whom I gather some new facts time to time. I have also gathered the above information from history of Rajasthan. For more information you can what’s app me on +91-9440805300.
Shriprakash Loya
The taxi driver gave some other Roma's a ride and he said you did not pay him you said Park here and you will be right back and you ran off you didn't pay him if he is your brother why do you treat him like that
Very authentic information from Rajasthan however we can observe that over the same time also later & much earlier also similar migration had taken from other provinces like Sind Punjab. Infact in ancient times ie 4 millenia earlier Sind & Punjab had faced massive migration both outward & inwards aswell due to continuous drought & rain scarcity for centuries which also led to drying up of saraswati river & making substantial change in innumerable human settlements .
Oh goodness gracious me I am so so proud of these wonderful Indians for starting Indian immigration to other countries did they visa or arranged marriage certificate at border control in the history of the miration
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I pray that indian givt help roma people and save this culture . they need our support
Roma means son of ram 😊🙏🙏
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Why can't the host talk to Generous people and businessmen of India to help them monetarily.
Love you
Fifty Thousand Euros for All them books , Did you write them All yourself Ian ?
OMG. There r somany book..
Is it true??
Yes , they belong to India.
Gypsy words ETYMOLOGY Is..GIBE SEA.. It means the people who have..Sea of Knowledge on their Tongue mean Jibe.. It is the main source of preserving knowledge for the thousands of years.. Isn't it.. its very true and authentic.. Because if one say.. Gypsy means the people who wonder from one place to anothe place.. If this principal applied for everyone then history shows that era was the era.. Very human group goes very places that gives them a sense of security or the warlords roamed to conquer the places or they roamed.. Do our so called intellectual called them.. Gypsies or Romani.. No. Because the people who are able to keep record in writing or any other way..
We so called Gypsies or Rama or Banjara or lamani.. Lamani.. Lavante.. These are very respectful words or terms that historian given to us.. Nothing insulating meaning comes out of that words. Lama becomes.. Lamani....
Etc etc..A lot to say.
Our Buddhist monks goes all-over the world to spread the holy Buddha Dhamma... they traveled . Roamed very places to serve humanity... Crafted caves.. and to Craft buddhist caves our business community Rich people provided funds to craft caves..A lot to say.. Need scientific way to think.
They are not the first Indians to migrate out of India. Earlier were the Indo-European speaking people who migrated from India.
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Is there still gypsy in India ?
Yes , Domari and Lamani people .
In Rajasthan you can find them
All those Roma's are previously Buddhists,1000 years ago. They had been captured for forced labour or slavery?
Arab me hai wo bhi Buddhist hai kya?😄😄😄😄😄👎
They are strongly hindus still many have saved their original culture don't lie. They were forced out by Turks as they fought against the invaders during islamic invasions they were expelled, their lands were taken over so be nice to fellow human n stop lying
Brother they are Rajasthani and some north indian people who migrate from india
Navbaudh bhimte alwats trt to connect everything to baudhism
@@sunilbalooni5137 i agree