there are so many signs this series was meant to go on so much longer, it really is unfortunate we didn't get to see it fully through because it really could have been so much more
@@TheYoungGeninSasuke He clearly flip-flopped on this. After the Culture Festival Izuku made a huge leap in power from 8 to 20% (previously it was 0->5 ->8%). Then the whole introduction of the 6 quirks, vestiges etc all feel like a clear way to have Izuku's journey of powerups be more interesting because hey, 6 new characters and powers and backstories and relations to OFA and more history etc. Clearly we're in it for the long haul. Then we throw hands in the war arc followed by a post-war arc that feels like it's supposed to digest all of the war arc before going to a second war arc. Timing of this is just weird.
@@TheYoungGeninSasuke a good example would be hori stating how the forest camp arc was meant to go on longer, but (im not sure if this part is entirely true) japanese viewers wanted things to be back to being based around the class, and the overall rushed nature of villain hunt makes that very apparent. Same for deku's power leaps and such , i could go into more detail but id just be rambling
Kinda yeah kinda no Hori never intended for the series to be long and it doesn't Play to his strengths as a writer It's moreso the series has elements that either NEED more time in order to be told faithfully or are structured such that they lend themselves to longer formats More a case of hori having a lot plan but underestimating the work load when putting pen to paper and having to actually commit But not in a ''I always intended this to be 122322 chapters'' way???
I think Horikoshi came up with the whole saving Shigaraki thing pretty late into the game. That's why All For One comes takes up so much focus. He wanted to give Shigaraki his moment while still have a 'demon lord.' defeated which unfortunately meant All For One the ancient evil became little more than a plot device with a personality shift that seemed to go from Megatron to starscream.
No fucking way. The saving shigaraki thing was definitely planned since the Bakugo rescue arc with his flashback of no hero saving him. It’s just poorly executed
It's almost comical but I get what horikoshi was trying to do, its just as bad as shotos question to dabi after the final war being "Whats your favorite food" which we knew from previous chapters that he felt bad that he didn't even know that info and wanted to, it still just feels odd
Ochako is my favorite character and this might be an odd thing to say but in retrospect I'm glad she didn't have as much panel time as the other main characters. For me she is the most consistently written character and all of her major scenes end up being highlights at least for me Im sorry Ochako Uraraka you deserved to be in a better manga
Really felt like Horikoshi had a strong idea, but didn’t know how to expand upon it and end it. He could only focus on how to make it more “interesting.”
I can forgive plot holes, ass pulls, and all other writing conundrums, but what I can't forgive is the abandonment of it's message. Even if the villains died or were killed I'd understand, but the systems of "heroes" and "villains" as they were presented in the manga prior still remain with no changes. The beating heart of the series was change and care and I didn't feel that with this ending. The more I think about it, the only thing I end up feeling is empty.
after MVA and his performance in PLW shigaraki became my favorite character by far and his treatment thereafter severely wounded me. we watched him evolve from a nothing-villain w no presence into a force of nature who was just starting to flesh out his own ideals and act on them without his teacher’s guidance. And he was swiftly replaced by said teacher whose motivation was so sleep-inducing that it made me vomit!
if the story wasnt in such a rush to end i wouldve loved to see him become more cunning and calculated instead of becoming a brick wall that just needed to be broken down. i could probably make my own 4 hour video about the kind of character i wanted shiggy to become
Chapter 419 is what made me fully tap out of mha. That was such an insult and a middle finger to me as a shigaraki fan. I felt like Horikoshi wasted our time more than I've ever before. What was the point of MVA, and PLW? What was the point of 379 where he regained control of his body and destroyed the AFO vestige? What was the point in Shiggy's entire arc just for it to ammount to nothing just like nearly everything else in the fucking story besides maybe (big emphasis on maybe) the Todoroki family plotline?
@@KCthemaXimumHonestly that Fucking Retcon was just unforgivable on how it damaged if outright destroyed everything about Shigaraki’s character and my favorite character. God Damn Horokoshi for making this stupid retcon!
@@KCthemaXimum ive never been more excited about a character’s future than when i was reading PLW weekly and for all that excitement to lead to this pitiful conclusion is a tragedy
I am stunned that the war ended with Shigaraki dying in one punch. I only ever watched the anime, so I didn't know that was what happened. It makes me think 'what was the point of everything' considering that's the final result
I dont hate the ending. The series had fallen off so much, I wasn't surprised by it. I expected it. I'm legit sad to see how great it started, and how much it broke down.
I don’t usually comment on videos, but the retrospective and your other analysis videos on MHA have been so entertaining and interesting to watch. They’ve provided amazing advice of how improve my writing skills and things to avoid when writing a story. I also love how direct you are with your criticisms despite receiving so much hate in the community. Thanks for the ride and congrats on completing the retrospective!
One funny thing, I remember when I was around 15 years old, I had 3 thorns impaled deep on my knee. I wend to the doctor, they just cut open a little bit to get them out. I was out of comission for an entire week, because, as the doctor put it "the body is not biologicaly made to have objects inserted into it or cut open, so it will spent all the resources, nutrients and energy to fix the cut following a surgery, no matter how small:. So imagine how stupid I thought it was that Bakugo (ignoring all other damage) had his heart explode, and then went through open heart surgery, and just stands up. I know it's a shonen, but come on.
It's the inconsistency that kills me. A character can receive damage and you can't even judge from vibes whether it's lethal or not. one moment, having about 50% of your body obliterated is fucking lethal and the next moment it's not. Nighteye's chest wound was proportionally smaller than Torino's and Torino fucking lives.
Feels so weird to just see the fandom just happily accept the manga's shortcomings and act like what it set up and fail to execute wasn't that big a deal even though that setup is what most readers look forward to. You have to intentionally turn off your thought process to not realize what was missing from that execution
This is why I’ll never really take u guys seriously u speak like ur opinions are objective and get mad when people like something that u don’t to the point where ur sayin stupid shit like this lol
That’s stupid. Most of the complaints here are just people’s headcannons not happening especially with AFO. I agree with the other gripes but that doesn’t mean people who don’t are inferior. I thought the end was fine and my only real gripe was it ended to soon
@zomebody5529 Fr, bro just woke up one day and forgot how to write. I can't believe I thought I could trust him to give us a satisfying conclusion to the story after the end of Act 2. Letdown after fucking letdown, literally all he did was waste our time. All for Nothing. Those 3 words are how I can describe the series ending.
God it’s so Sad how My Hero truly fell after the Dabi’s Dance chapter. It’s like Horokoshi (or rather his infamous editor) forgotten how to write his own characters and all the things we loved about the heroes and the Villains were just (mostly) sucked out of them for the final act and all we got were just a bunch of action figures bumping into each other. With a Less interesting Plot Device Villain All For One taking over as the Final Villain.
Guys, I have started a new fan story based on MHA where the reader themselves is the protagonist. There are currently 3 chapters, and I hope you all like it. Each chapter is pretty long and takes atleast 15 minutes to read completely. I assure you there are no stupid plotholes which make you feel awkward or cringed out. I just am trying to fix MHA myself while bending the story and adding some more plots to it, while focusing on the reader still being the protagonist. It's on my community page. Please do comment if it is bad, because it would help me to understand if I should continue or just stop it.
I think the potential misogyny aspect of miruko’s injuries is just how severe and how many she gets while other characters go through equal or worse physical trauma (hawks, nagant, torino, bakugou) and almost perfectly heal from it with the worst of it being some cool scars
I don't know if I'd say it's misogynistic that she gets scars when Ochako, Jiro, and Mt. Lady are among other characters who recover without significant injury. I will say that the continued limb rending for Mirko did come across as weirdly fetishistic, though. I remember there being a lot of discussion about whether Hori was into ryona when those chapters were current.
Bakugou's revival gets even worse when you realise that Edgeshot didn't need to do anything. Best Jeanist is right there! He can control fibres, why didn't he use his Quirk to stitch Bakugou's wounds with fibres? Then the magical sweat drop can do its thing and jump start his heart.
Nitroglycerin is heavily used in adrenalin and heart attack medication so the sweat drop COULD have worked realistically--if there was a prior spark to ignite it.
While I don’t like the Bakugo revivial, Edgeshot did more than just “stitch wounds”. He was acting as a pacemaker on top of that. Regardless, it felt ridiculous. It didn’t really feel like there was enough build up that reviving a dead person was even in Edgeshots repertoire of abilities. I never really took that as being a capability of foldabody. But I guess it can be left up to interpretation of his quirk based on the “I just fiddled with his insides” line after taking out Kurogiri in chapter 88. Either way, it felt a little contrived. Atleast Hori did give Bakugo some awesome moments after bringing him back.
Congratulations on finishing this video, Asa! I know it was a huge undertaking. MHA will always be special to me for being my first real gateway into manga and anime. I really enjoyed the show and even if my investment and enjoyment dwindled a bit over the years, with Horikoshi's writing and pacing decisions, I am glad to have been along for the ride. This truly is the end of an era, a huge shonen is leaving the magazine. So, thank you all for the good and bad memories, Horikoshi and everyone I've interacted with, talked with or watched about My Hero Academia. Its been an honor.
@@errorstudioz uuuh really?? im mostly hearing this as a podcast so i only saw it once for a bit over a minute, and u kno, the video IS more than 3 hours 😭😭 dont know if i agree with ya
Uraraka almost dies from being stabbed meanwhile during test where All Might pretend to be villain, Bakugou gets kick in his face with enough force to lunch him through building and he walks it off as if nothing happened
2:12:00 Horikoshi couldn't handle the technology of the world he created, that's why he always pretend it doesn't exist when it would be convenient which in return force characters like momo out of the way because she can never reach her full potential without the reader realizing that a lot of things in that world should be taking advantage of the very advanced technology that exists in mha.
he should have left it in the void like he did in the early seasons, instead of confirming that with enough money and no quirk you can literally fight the top 1 in the verse
I think it's pretty disappointing that Deku started this series as a Quirkless boy that wanted to become a hero like All Might so he could save others and have a reassuring presence, while also juggling the issue of having too much hero worship for All Might while also having a lot of internalized self-hatred. But then he just never actually learned how to be the type of hero he admired All Might for. The dialogue from one of the final battles outright says that he still thinks of himself as a loser without OFA and that's never addressed. Deku never has to reevaluate his self-worth or overcome any internal flaws that hold him back from his full potential. Just get in the bath, stinky, and let's wrap this series up.
Kinda feels like if in ATLA's fight against the fire lord, Aang straight up killed the Fire Lord, who'd then thank him because... reasons. And then Zuko would tell Aang 'nah man, you totally saved him'. Also Azula kills herself trying to kill Zuko.
@@ProjektTakuOnly for him to get a- idk, flamethrower strapped to a water gun? And a rock. So that he can still be the Avatar ten years and two chapters later.
MHA using Avatar as a comparison can actually just be described as... Avatar: Legend of Korra's Book one but wayyyy more than just 12 episodes. Korra is literally just Deku.
@@sonic5993 Maybe. I feel like Hori just wanted to wrap up the big plot points in his mind (todoroki family, uraraka, and the big 3 I think) and introduced that *villan*/lost boy at the end to show that society was going to improve. But i feel for the last chapter he wanted to add more, but didn't know how to or what to do anymore so he just made a collage of images and made the 8 year timeskip in order to finish and be done with the series.
@@mysticfoil Like I said, burnt out. He's been talking about his anxiety with this series for years and I think he just couldn't handle it anymore and decided to just put it out of its misery.
OKAY SO I'M NOT CRAZY FOR SAYING I WANTED A GENUINE DOZEN OF EPISODES SO I COULD SEE DEKU GO FROM SMILING TO BECOMING A DARKER VERSION OF THE PERSON HE ONCE WAS?!
@@danieljoseph8158 Real, quirkless iron man dude. It's a cool outfit- cool he's strong now but even him being super strong with his robo-suit, I wanted him to do it with his own power- not some trillion-dollar toy. Plus, I feel like that'd limit the fights and how tense they are. His best will always be his limit, he can- never get stronger, only smarter and I think that sucks.
It’s finally here, I know how long you’ve been working on this, and you should be so proud man ❤ this whole series has been genuinely some of your best work and it’s really a showcase of not only your work ethic, but your perseverance, very few will understand the dedication it takes to accomplish something like this with a series as exhausting as MHA. Congratulations ❤ and o7 to MHA 🙏
i seen some people in the fandom say we need an alternative ending chapter which i agree... to an extent. Because the problems didn't begin in the final chapter,that's like being given a huge dump on a plate with a rotten cherry on top but instead of saying you literally served human waste and you want a refund for that,you say you just don't like cherries and want a refund for the cherry. to have a good alternative ending we would have to factory reset *everything* past chapter 306. so we don't just need an alternative ending. We need an alternative final act
The biggest villain in My Hero Academia was Horikoshi's indecisiveness and lack of commitment to a message. He just couldn't pick a lane when it came to his potrayal of Hero Society and the way it should be resolved, and so we have the build-up and plot-points that show its faults and shortcomings, and the way it contributes in the creation of its own villains, but all of that ends up amounting to NOTHING because the heroes just "win" by killing all the villains and we are supposed to believe everything is fixed now. And all of the previous nuance and complexity is just... lost like that. It truly feels like Horikoshi got cold feet after My Villain Academia arc (easily one of the bests arcs on the manga), and just decided to backtrack and make MHA the typical Superhero story.
its crazy how i can disagree with almost every subjective opinion in this video, but can still appreciate the hard work you put into it and respect why you have your opinions. good work man!
@@joshuaagee-bass4049 i could explain all my differing thoughts, but personally i just dont want to get into a pointless online argument with someone I dont know, for something that doesnt matter. Ive been in enough online powerscaling arguments to understand its a massive waste of time and brain power.
@@dolphinpower1107no like theres some stuff he says is good that i agree with, and theres stuff he says is bad that i agree with, but mostly i just disagree with a lot of the smaller nitpicks, in which he makes like hundreds. It was just a little annoying to watch him repeatedly make side point that made me go "w... what?? Theres completely valid explinations for this huh?" ^For example, he says its bad writting that there arent central characters that dislike endevor/or dont like him anymore after dabis dance. Meanwhile 1. Endevor admited to what he'd done, apologized, then he said AND proved that he is attoning. 2. His family has forgiven him for what he did, 3. That stuff was like, over 10 years ago 4. Literally anyone who has talked to endevor would realize he's not like this anymore and that he's become a better person. And 5. The wind guy not hating endevor anymore makes PERFECT SENSE, because the REASON he said he hated him was because of that "look in his eyes" (because of endevors deep seeded hatred and lack of kindness), endevor doesnt have that anymore and is like, kinda a softie, so if the wind guy saw legit anything about endevor, or endevor himself, anytime recently, it makes 100% sense he wouldnt hste him anymore because the reason he hates him is gone. Why would you expect characters to not see this? If you still disagree, look at ALL mha fans, theres like almost nobody who doesnt forgive endeavor, thats because anyone who knows all the information about his situation and has any shred of empathy would not see him as a bad person. For a real life example look at kendrick lamar, wether the allegations are true or not, when people saw that his family had no ill will against him, even IF he did beat them at one point, we know he and his family moved on and he became a better person. I personally have never seen someone who wont forgive kendrick, or someone who didnt forgive endeavor for what he's done, so why does this guy expect the characters to feel that way, characters who should know endeavor and understand what hes like now compared to before. Thats just, kinda dumb ngl. ^and see look at that. It took THAT long to respond to one of this guys points he made in 10 seconds in a 4 hour video. I have like 50 more of these in the chamber. Its not that i find everything he says to be wrong, its just that he makes TONS of points like this that I disagree with. But yea i pretty much agree with what he said about the toga stuff lol, i think it mightve hit a little bit harder for me though since im pretty sure im more emotionally invested in these characters than he seems to be. And yea, i do think toga dying is stupid and dumb, but at least it felt pretty emotional to see her chose to sacrifice herself for someone she loved instead of killing someone she loved, and to see her die happy and on her own terms. So i dont like it, but I also dont COMPLETELY hate it.
@rustedcrabtm6438 i can agree with what you said here, but its admittedly pretty boring lol no other reason than that. It's much more entertaining to see the interpersonal drama unfold. Especially since Endeavor as a character is so closed off to anybody OTHER than his family, except maybe hawks. Like, his bond with the sidekicks are practically nonexistent, so shaking up the pot would make them more interesting within the story. And as for wind guy, i don't really care about him, he's just a nothing burger of a character.
Horikoshi abandoning Yaomomo and tossing her character in the garbage is still one of the biggest sins in mha. Especially with how deku is going to be a hero moving forward in his life. She could've easily been one of if not the best hero in class A, and she gets nothing.
Momo was doomed the moment she got the second most votes in the class presidency, only for Deku to ignore that and put Iida in charge when he ceded the role. It was pretty much a perfect representation of how she was treated from then on.
I personally think Shigaraki is one of the beat manga characters out there. He's ny fav character so it huets to see how his story ended. Shiggy deserved a better ending
If you read his lips, he's saying "Touya Todoroki" or "Todoroki Touya" right before we hear him tell Hawks "more than any other Villain, you should've had your eyes on me." Or that was the jist. Point being, the part we didn't hear was just his name.
It’s honestly amazing how My Hero Academia started out so unique from other shonen (like the main character hurting himself if he used his power at 100%, attempts to address serious themes like the public worshipping celebrities like gods, when they’re clearly not, and characters potentially having life or career ending consequences) only for the series to lose all the things that made it stand out from the competition which resulted in it ending up as a generic shonen instead. Which is honestly depressing
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 It got a little wonky when a top hero decided to save the day by becoming someone's heart. On a meta level even for fiction it is quite absurd.
I remember it being praised as being revolutionary shonen unlike any other shonen, how it dodged all the flaws and tropes and everything. And while yea at the time it was obviously overly optimistic, it's just a huge shocking leap to the current "Actually extrajudicial murder is good, how dare you disagree" and "if you disagree with me you're an illiterate child" and "nobody ever believed *most popular theory in existence*.
okay,so now mha's final volume is gonna get 60 bonus pages,probably to try to fix the mha ending somehow but like... that's pretty much the clip of the simpsons where homer and bart chase their barbecue while homer saying "it's still good,it's still good". I mean,the damage was already done and 60 pages isn't gonna fix the bucketload of others problems the rest of the final act had
I'm glad someone else's acknowledged Midorya haven't really grown as a character instead he's lost what made him unique in favor of a flanderized "average shounen mc" version of himself who's worse than the more nuanced and unorthodox protagonist who he once was at the beginning
2:30:23 This is total insanity. Edit: Just so we are all on the same page I'm saying that it's insane that Hori basically turned Izuku Midoriya into a literal Deku. (木偶 -> Wooden Figure.) I think Asa/Zenrotto said it best in a Shonen N' Chill episode, "Deku is basically a missile that they point at the objective." It's a terrible fate for a character I cared for so much.
honestly, My Hero Academia as a whole to me is simply one big great idea that was executed poorly. a futuristic world where superpowers are so normal that growing up without one gets you marginalized like you're a lesser race, where Hero is a real profession that literally shaped society as a whole but is secretly corrupt from the inside, and a main villain who's lived hundreds of years and whose power lets him steal any power he wants? fucking gold! incredible ideas! going to school to get a hero license? it would be so cool to see what the curriculum would be. two more main villains (Shigaraki and Dabi) who are only villains directly thanks to how Hero society failed them? incredible. this story could have been so good, all of the potential was there, and to me as a whole Horikoshi just wholly fumbled the execution on almost every single one of his great ideas. dont get me wrong, i love this show. it was the first anime i ever watched, i consume tons of fanfiction for it as well as write my own and its really dear to my heart, but you cant deny that Hori fumbled, big time. (here's where the EDIT starts because i refuse to read the manga because of how trash it had already become and so was using this video to recap myself on the ending. the first half of this comment was written halfway through the video, when i was calm and just a little disappointed. the second half of this comment was written after i finished the video, and now im pissed. really, really pissed.) look at a show like attack on titan, another series with a questionable ending. maybe you think it was an absolute dogshit retcon, maybe you think it wasn't so bad, but the least you have to say is at least it feels like Isayama was trying to make something good. it is really hard to end a legendary shounen series that lasted years in a way thats super cohesive when there is so much to tie up. the AOT ending felt weird and somewhat disjointed to me, but i wasnt offended by it the way i feel just honest to god disrespected by horikoshi's shit ending. it feels like the man could not care less about the integrity of his plot or his characters. "i do everything with respect for the world of MHA"? what a fucking joke, man. at least try to make something you can be proud of. it shouldn't even be debatable how disgustingly bad the cast of characters were treated, retconned and thrown away into oblivion. im left to wonder what the point of it was. what does horikoshi think he's getting across as the message of the series with the ending he wrote. i could write an ending better than that. jesus christ people HAVE written endings better than that for MHA. archiveofourown.org/works/14572500/chapters/33674223 literally here. here's an example. read it, or dont. its good. words dont describe how disappointed i am in horikoshi and how upset i am at the way one of my favorite shows of all time got slaughtered.
The enitre LoV became villains because hero society failed them. Shigi and Dabi are the most obvious, but iirc Conpress's family was basically Robin Hood, stealing from the rich to gice to the poor. Toga sought help with her tendencies but instead of helping her coexist and managing her urges (which could be as easily managed as teaching her self-discipline to only take a safe amount of blood regularly and teachig her consent and communication skills), Hero society instead ostracized her and make her bottle up her emotions until she couldn't anymore. Hero Hunt reveals that the government intentionally lets peole fall through the cracks and become villains, and is therefore designed to lack social safety nets, which Twice fell victim too. Spinner was the victim of racism. Mha racism is very blatantly based of irl racism. While racism is done by individual racists, racism is a systemic problem. Hero Society has shown to value heteromorphs less than other people due to them being esthetically harder to market and profit off of. Valuing certain minorities less creates racist biases and sterotypes that propagate racism. I agree with you, I just wanted to point out the entire LoV are victims of Hero Society, not just Shigi and Dabi
Looking back I really like Uraraka vs Toga. I mean I always loved the fight since I really like the idea of Toga using Twice's quirk while Uraraka's quirk awakening. But looking back it's really nice to see their fight way more. Even toga's death was in my opinion good because it really made uraraka's character in the epilogue more interesting. Too fucking bad that we never saw uraraka do the one thing her story was being built up since the start. It's the one thing in this entire 3rd I really actually dislike. Also I don't know if it's just me liking animes in general but I feel like the anime made the entire third arc way better than the manga ever did. I mean take mirio for example, in the manga it felt like he was missing the entire arc. But in the anime he was missing for like the first episode of the fight but then he was in the rest of the fight until deku kicks in.
2:27:55 A good chunk of the anime fandom is like this. They don’t want character to have character development and inter spetion. They just want them to see them fight and get the girl at the end and fight some more
The problem with Ochako vs. Toga being about a guy is that the feelings weren't mutual. Deku turned Toga down. It was also never confirmed that Deku liked Ochako in a romantic way. By the time Deku left to fight Shigaraki, Toga was over her crush on Deku, yet for some reason, Ochako had to bring up that she also had a crush on him. It's boring that her whole development revolves around Deku. I also want to add that Toga's death wasn't necessary. She could have lived and been taken by the police for questioning. After some rehabilitation, Toga could have worked with Ochako to improve Quirk counseling.
[English is not my first language, sorry for bad english] It makes me want to cry because MHA is one of my favorite mangas of all time, its always been a comfort of mine I went to when I was sad. It makes me want to cry because I don't feel like this is how the story should end, I felt that I liked the ending but that was just it. I liked it. I feel like I wanna be feeling more about the final war, but other than specific moments, the whole arc just felt like a big memory fog for me Anyways, great video!!! You pointed out a lot of things I didn't notice on first read (probably because I shut my brain off during the read, I shouldn't do that a lot :/ I just go 'oooo pretty pictures' on first read usually, lol)
MHA ended like the promised neverland. We knew what we wanted and even after Deku and Emma sacrificed something, they were left out of the main resolution. Only to wander off somewhere. After some time passed, they are reunited with their friends/family and have a lot of catching up to do. Though this is where the story ends. So it’s impossible to say if it’s a fitting ending or just a consolation prize. Unlike Ben 10 who quit being a hero for years, Deku had no call to an adventure after leading a decent, peaceful life. So is being a hero for him in the end just a hobby or sports?
@59:29 THIS THIS RIGHT HERE IS SO TRUE HORI WANTS TO HAVE HIS CAKE AND EAT IT TOO, I cant get over how annoying it got when he drops themes and stakes for a moment for example dabi getting back up WHY he had his fight with shoto but oh wait he also needs to confront the family???? ok yeah im glad people are noticing it more.
"Guys, thank you for the suit. Now i can roleplay as a super hero from time to time" When deku accepted the charity cuck ironman suit, not only did it undermine the "losing the power" ending, it also undermines the "respectable teacher" ending. It indirectly implied that being a teacher is not enough. You still can't make a difference in this world if you are quirkless. Also, making the class 1-a be too busy from hero work to hang out implies that villain activity is still rampant and the ofa vs afo stuff barely changed the status quo. What a payoff for "this is a story how I/we became the greatest hero". Stain has more effect in the society than deku.
I kind of figured that if the class couldn’t make some time to be with deku, the guy that has done so much for them, then either A, hawks pretty much lied about heroes having a lot more down time or B, they do have downtime since villains are pretty low nowadays and the class just didn’t do much for being with deku for no reason which makes them even more worthless.
It's particularly lame that Deku can only be a hero via the hand-outs of others, particularly when his whole character beat was "I am worthless, but One for All is everything." Having someone else come along and replace OFA with some other crutch for him to lean on and see as a sacred cow just means that Deku never grew. He should be able to be a hero on his own merits and see value in what he does.
Ngl the talk about Regeneration made me immediately think of Sukuna fight and how much of slog fest it was- like you said, "throwing their biggest flashy attack that led to them being boddied"
MHA was THE anime that actually got me into watching/reading more seriously. I honestly didn’t catch a lot of the nuances and themes on my first read/watch but I loved it all the same. Seeing you explain the fall and, now being able to comprehend the themes and message clearly, brings me a lot of sadness. I think he created something really special and to throw it all the way in the last arc is heartbreaking. Being created from passion and high hopes only for its own author do it injustice at the end is sad. Really wish he could’ve seen it through, and I’m sure he wanted to as well, but I guess the stress and fatigue was finally getting to him…
It could be stress, but there’s also the possible fact that the editors were pushing him to finish ASAP. And there was the fact that Horikoshi had to cut the summer training camp arc short because sales and readership was dropping. Hell, maybe even he got stressed due to the toxicity of the MHA fandom (he even got death threats). So a lot of things, basically. Which is really sad.
MHA is a show that I started back when season 2 or 3 was airing. Soon after season 4 finished, I decided to continue in the manga while just watching the anime as it come already knowing what happens. Towards the end of the series, I started feeling burnt out and dreading each new chapter. The final chapter releasing truly made me feel nothing. Normally when a series ends, even when the ending isn't the best, I feel some sort of appreciation for the journey, but throughout the entire 3rd act, I just felt beat down over and over. This was wildly disappointing as I loved the series at first. But I was just let down. My brother was a huge MHA fan (as well as Sonic fan, perfect music taste), and he passed away last December. Regardless of how the series ended, I wish he would've been able to see the end of his favorite series. Regardless of how burnt out I felt of the series, I'm glad MHA was able to give my brother incredible memories. One of the last things he said is that he's going to "go beyond, 120%, plus ultra". Thank you MHA for allowing to give my brother an escape during his life going through cancer treatment and end of his life.
Speaking of Dad4One, it’s a little crazy how glossed over Deku’s dad became. We know he had an unknown fire quirk, and since Deku was already kind of in the middle of the Todoroki family drama, you’d think he’d be able to do _anything_ with that information to help Shoto reach Dabi. At least to have *any* connection to any of the villains. There used to be this now clearly insane sentiment in the series that basic quirks like fire and ice were common. But no. Deku, who has nothing to do with anything, has literally never spoken to 4/6 members of the league (including the dead ones) before the epilogue. Twice? Who’s that?
I imagine Deku's original potential Quirk was going to be Pyrokinesis(Dad Breathes fire+Mom moves objects towards her) and that he would get that as well as one for-all in the end, Earning the power after beating shigaraki and all for one and going on to really be the GREATEST hero but instead going to work at mcdonalds.Bro this series ending reminds me of a MAD Magazine where its a chart that always leads back to Mcdonalds.
Its crazy when you consider the parallel's between Dabi and Deku. Both damage themselves with their Quirks that they inherited from top heroes who they want to make proud, but don't have suitable bodies for that Quirk and eventually awaken hidden abilities from it, but Todoroki never even makes a correlation between the two.
@@ProjektTaku I was actually thinking he keeps All for one and on top of that as well as his own quirk. But I like your too and Its better thematically then what we really got where it all... goes back to Mcdonalds, yep I can see those golden arches. Remember kids, its not about hard work or determination, but Money and connections.
This might be just a random and stupid thought, but a super great contrast character for Toga to fight would have been Mineta, both are characterized by theyre atraction, but due to how Mineta fits more into the "straight male who likes butts and boobies" he is more accepted than the bisexual bloodlusted girl, a face off of the two where they discuss how to understand and differentiate love and atraction would have been fun
@@cannabishornliu6119God, do I wish he was just the coward character. Whenever he gets a moment of fighting through his fear to do something heroic I really like, however he always, without fail doed some pervert nonsense immediately afterwards, loosing any good will the moment earned from me.
Mineta having Toga as an antagonist and having to deal with unwanted attraction sounds like it'd be a neat way to handle his shift from "pervert who likes the idea of being a hero for popularity" to "actually maturing hero who understands boundaries". Instead, he's just kinda... that kid with the grape hair that kinda sorta convinced AFO not to steal Dark Shadow, I guess.
I just thought about it as you were talking about all might, but it would have been so nice to see his character arc being that of a man who thought he could carry society on his back, without ever really challenging the status quo, to that of man who understands that the systems in society are the ones who should be protecting the people, like imagine after losing OFA, somewhere along the line all might has to grapple with the idea that his entire lifes effort was a waste, just being a bandaid and keeping the status quo, when what he should have been doing was changing the society that fails the villains, this would have made the dynamic between him and deku so interesting, like imagine a world where the last theme of my hero academia, is how All Might was able to improve japanese society, not as a hero, but as a quirkless activist/politician etc. The contrast of that with how deku desperately wanted a quirk, when what society needs was a change to its systems, and all that can be done without a quirk. It really would have elevated all might's character, the mentor seeing his pupil potentially waste his life the same way he did, but i do wonder, even if horikoshi had the time to actually make a ending that wasn't rushed, would he have really actually have critiqued even a little bit of modern day capitalist society, i really doubt it.
Huge props for completing the whole retrospective from start to finished. I too had to trudge along with the manga until the beginning of the final arc, which in hindsight was way too late to drop it. Though the apathy of seeing continual disappointments from villain hunt onwards was still there.
When I got into MHA through the anime, I thought it was pretty cool and a fun watch. It wasn't until I found your channel that I really began to understand and dig deeper into the story and found a new appreciation for it... until it sucked lol. Even though I found MHA very late into it's life I'm thankful to have found your channel as I enjoy your analytical videos and hope to be able to put my own constructive thoughts on series I enjoy on the level you have. I look forward to seeing what you have planned for the future!
decided to rewatch, and that ending kinda hit me, you talked about the fandom so much in the video, and on my first watch, i kinda... dismissed it??? "oh haha toxic anime fans", but it really wasn't that. i started watching you like, a year and something ago (and joined some streams :3), you and oceaniz made me appreciate MHA more, and also made me more critical of certain aspects of it, however, my engagement with it basically ended there, I only discussed MHA with close friends, at most, as i was not someone in the fandom, or a twitter user, for that matter. i really didn't know that MHA got you to where you are right now, friend group, youtube inspiration, etc, and while theres some stuff to love about that, it really must have sucked to have your passion for a story die like that, and to add to it, the toxic positivity it created in act 3, the way the fandom just didn't accept any critizism, and attacked people (like you, or) close to you for being critical of the series. it kinda gave me a new perspective on it, its different to watch something and to be dissapointed by it; "oh haha that game of thrones thing ended badly, whatever!" and just move on, to the way you experienced it so closely. like many others, great video, and i really hope whatever this shitshow was, it gave you something decent out of it, good luck on your next projects, and have a good one man
I love to come into a video thinking I know all the criticisms and still getting blindsided by obvious right hooks of Fridge Logic that I didn't see all this time. Himiko pulling Deku through the portal really does make zero sense when he has (at minimum) Full Cowling on plus Air Force, Fa Jin, & Black Whip at his disposal, as does leaving Kurogiri at Central Hospital instead of moving him to, say, one of Japan's other islands? Doesn't even need to be much, just have Cementoss build a concrete bunker for him before sending him onto the Coffin. And to think swaths of the entire fandom became unable to open their senses to differences of opinions... Truly thankful to have not experienced that darkness first-hand purely by life circumstance. My heart goes out to everyone who suffered through that kind of dogmatic insanity. I'll probably never get the good of early MHA out of my head, which makes it all the more important to come to know it as a whole; to love blindly is a fool's errand that can only lead to falling on one's face. I always knew I'd finish the series to conclusion as I have with other long-running series, but making the last leg of this journey alongside Asa really has made so much of a positive difference in the experience compared to others. Go take a long rest and get your head on straight, Horikoshi; keep on doing good work, Asaratha. Thank you both, as well as to all the contributors for this powerful retrospective; wishing better things for each of you in the future!
The more i read it the more unsatisfying it become. Interaction among character is lacking a lot, no way they lost contact for a years if they actually care with each other and always in good terms,like koichi still sending popstep a photo to show he is okay, why hori forbid deku and uraraka the same treatment at least? Also maybe instead showing deku save a kid from tripping make something like spiderman 2 when peter lost his power, it better to proof a point that deku body still moving on his own rather something that every normal people would do. Isnt he still hero with license? he can still helping people legally, it make him look like chicken out because he doesnt have op quirk anymore.
I first found this channel through your initial MHA racism video. I have some far watched almost every video since then and I’m happy that I did. Your videos have been great for listening to and have opened my views to manga in general. It’s also helped me get through some tough times in my life. Thank you Asa for everything and I’ll be here until The end! Also ALDARBRAN IS The GOAT
I am convinced that MHA is just a stealth prequel to The Boys. The ending pretty much confirmed that Heroes are still treated like celebrities. The world of The Boys takes it to a whole other level, having the Seven be in movies, action figures, and it wouldn't surprise me if they had comic books of romanticized version of themselves.
43 minutes in and there's one argument that I somewhat disagree with. The argument regarding tbe female characters who get destroyed and mutiliated compares to their male contemparies would naturally deserve some form if acknowledgement to be distinguished from male characters. I argue this because when you compare the occasions which the strongest amidst the female cast get to participate in high stakes fights to their male counterparts, a handful of the women get the short end of the stick in some fashion. - Mirko gets more heavily mutilated than any character in the series during what was essentially her debut fight, and all she did was toss her weight around the same way a male character would. Whereas someone like Aizawa lost his leg essentially on his own terms to avoid the loss of his quirk. - Star dies in her introductory battle as the strongest woman in the world and one of the strongest characters in the story. - Midnight dies after failing to contribute anything to the Machia battle while Kamui Woods got burned alive and seemed to get along just fine despite being made of wood - Ochako nearly bleeds to death from a single stab wound, while Bakugo survived numerous impalements - Even a non-combatant like Rei had to suffer permanent burns just to contribute an arguably substantial role to the story And obviously, male characters get their own fair share of brutalization and mutilation here and there. But it feels disproportionate when female characters contribute less often to higher stakes encounters and are made to suffer worse fates on average compared to male characters who are more abundant and have more opportunities to experience different outcomes in battle. I don't think it points towards Hori as a misogynist, but I would argue that it understandably would leave a bad taste in the mouths of those who would enjoy female characters participating in the same power fantasy as male characters with no strings attached. I dont think there is really a female character in MHA who achieves that
The way that Mirko’s mutilation in particular is framed in the manga also comes across as weirdly sexually charged. Like do we have to see her crotch as she is being maimed? As she is on the ground bleeding out? Was that really necessary?
Comparing Ochako's stabwound to Bakugo's impalment and later his entire body being smashed to peices is not really fair because bakugo is clearly just built different, okay now the real reason is because in MHUR Ochako only has 250 base health while Bakugo has 300 so Bakugo in that fight had that extra 50 health to fall back on 😂
and also curious from the mla!! shes the only one we spent time with from the liberation army that died while redestro, skeptic and trumpet all ended up alive in prison which just feels odd.
I'd agree it's probably not misogyny, but I think there's still a bias against female characters. The female (barring Stars & Stripes and a few others like Nejire, Ryukyu, Momo, Mt Lady, Mirko) also tend to have fairly weaker quirks too. If you compare Ochako who needs to touch her opponent to float them compared like Shigereki or Overhaul who touching people can just straight up destroy them. Ochako's fights against Toga might as well be two regular women fighting which is a bit absurd when you consider the kind of battles going on around the same time. A lot of the female character quirks seem to be disproportionately weak compared to their limitations or very support/scouting focused. And most of the stronger villains are either very durable or regenerate get defeated by one big attack. Something that almost none of the female character's quirks are capable of outside beating generic goons.
Thank you for all the time and energy you put into this final review of MHA's last stretch of the story. I am also terribly disappointed by how the series ended, and I am so sad about it... yet at the same time I feel numb. I just can't care anymore, because my interest has fallen so far down over the past few years. It's a shame, because I once loved this series so very much.
I've been waiting for this. Oceaniz introduced me to the series, but you're the reason I stuck through MHA at its worst. Thank you for the wonderful and hell driven journey. Can't wait to see what's in store for you!
I loved this series so much and even if it isn't perfect at all I still enjoyed it a lot (you're so based for putting such good music in this video, my respects man).
Im just barely an hour into this but i literally screamed at 1:02:11 when you mentioned tokoyami's comment on chihiro's ass. When i caught up on season 7, I recorded a whole breakdown of how MHA's humor has been weirdly misplaced and its characterizations butchered in later arcs and this specific scene was one of the largest ones at the heart of it!! I mean, I could understand Mineta or Denki saying something like this but Tokoyami usually carries himself with more respect and restraint so when I heard this, it made me ao incredibly sad. It made me realize how much each characters' individual voices and dynamics had been neutered when that was one of the main things I admired about the series to start with (as the creator of my own comic with a huge cast). That said, I definitely had second thoughts about whether or not I was being too hard on this scene. But hearing it brought up here genuinely made me SO happy that i had to take a lap around the house and come leave this comment 🥲
so what I'm getting from this is that Horikoshi has never understood his own characters. also fuck his quote. what a load of shit. " i draw with a sense of RESPONIBILITY towards the WORLD of mha". 1) he doesn't understand his own made up cast of characters 2) all of this series happens in 2 maybe 3 years. 3) "always thinking on how to make it more interesting"? wtf, this has to be satire
I still find it so hilariously bad by the time the final war is done, class 1A is just becoming 2A. All the shit that happened and these guys are just starting their second year. Then we get thrown into an 8 year time jump because fuck us I guess Timeframe should’ve been way extended but that’s frankly that’s one of the smaller issues in reference to everything else in the finale being so half-assed
@benjiago6800 No one forced you to read the story. At this point it is your own bloody fault 4 "wasting your time" not Hori's. Hori is just trying to tell a decent story but all you people do is complain and insult him. If you think you can do better go out and write your own story if not just #%^&&&** up!
@@greengem9132 You don’t know that. It’s possible that they might go in a different direction than the manga. Even if that doesn’t happen, they can at least add a few more scenes and context to make the ending a bit more satisfying.
@@wendylacey2745 and remember that comment you said about Astro boy being outdated, I finally checked the Pluto(2023) anime and by God it's beautiful and the character actually felt like actually people It makes mha look like a web show
Bro went after everyone in this video, no one was safe here lol But still, great video, I feel the same way about mha at the end, like I have a lot of fond memories getting into it, yet it felt like a major waste of time. Bakugo is still my least favorite character and one of the most creators pet favorited rivals of all time, his development just comes and goes and he’s still the same by the end of the story, Stars and Stripes was absolutely pointless, and I genuinely think Horikoshi hates Midoriya, like I really don’t know why he just constantly gives him L’s or some kind of “this is a wrong thing you’re doing” lecture every time Midoriya does something, all mha has at this point is good-ish shounen action and good art, like man.
It will be cemented as one of the most successful and influential mangas of all time regardless of vids like these with people who had fake Stockholm syndrome for the series
@@ddg_snipa0187 crazy how he could have inspired a generation and actually did it for half the manga just to stop the creative character writing and only caring about redeeming the child/wife beater, the bully and the crazy girl with bloodfetish but not his MC because he wanted to copy naruto rage scenes until the very end and then talk no jutsu the villain
When I got to the argument of individual responsibility verses systemic responsibility at 3:35:00 I was reminded of those similar comparisons from watching Harry Potter video essays
Hori sees the problem with Hero society, shows us how society has failed these people, and has society literally collapse due to its unsustainability, proving the villains correct. Then he literally dumbs down all the villains (with except of twice, dabi, and toga) and kills them all off (except dabi). Then he turns around and puts all the blame on individuals for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. Acts like these critical flaws with society, which made it unsustainable and literally made it collaspe, is actually the fault of individuals, and the current status quo is great and the system itself could do no wrong. The quirk counseling, designed to cure undesirables and make them fall in line, gets "expanded." I saw parallels between quirk counseling and Canada's residential schools, which were designed to "kill the Indian in the child," and worked to take ingenious children and forcefully strip them of their culture, history, any undesirable aspects of them to make them fall in line with white society. Both took people who fell outside of the government's opinion on what was okay and tried to cure those aspects instead of co-existing with them. He specifically wrote about how the current government literally designed society to have it fail people and turn them into criminals in order to profit off them. His solution to this is to reward this corruption by putting the equivalent of a black site cia agent as its leader. Not only does he try to completely invalidate the villain's ideas by putting all the blame on them and act like the status quo could do no wrong, but by doing so, he unintentionally proves the villains right. His ending is supposed to be a happy ending with everything getting better, but if you don't take his word for it and critically abalize it yourself, you'd see that killing the villains and discrediting them didn't change anything. All Might concept is an explicit critique of this idea, and the story disproves it by having society become disillusioned and collapsing as soon as the government's narrative is disproven. Yet Hori's ending seems to be in support of All Might's idealogy, reverting society back to what it was like under All Might and treating it as a happy ending after he spent years dissecting and critique every aspect of it. By trying to discredit them Hori accidently proves them completely correct. By writing what he thought was the solution to all the problems within society and what he imagined an ideal happy ending would be, he unintentional proved the villains correct, justified, and in the right, making this a dark ending. I generally don't hate anyone (except for billionaires and their allies), but i feel genuine resentment towards Hori. Like he looked at the problems around him, and instead of looking deeper at his own work he instead spits in the face of everything I thought he stood for and blames it on the outsiders, saying it's their fault they suffered. I never thought I would feel this way over a piece of fiction, but I guess that only shows how invested I was with this world and how betrayed I feel by Hori's ideology.
Been patiently waiting for this video for so long and what an amazing conclusion to the MHA retrospective. Perfectly explains my issues with MHA's writing post-Act 3, the state of the MHA fanbase, Hori's declining health as well as the anime and with the cameos it's clear that a ton of love and passion was put into this video. For me personally I'vealways had my opinions on MHA from time to time, and although they're not very positive, MHA still holds a special place in my heart. I loved the characters, the story, the worldbuilding, etc, and even though they were left underwhelming as Act 3 went on, I was still heavily invested in the story. My criticisms towards MHA come from a place of love (despite what MHAtwt likes to believe) because surprise surprise I cared about the story and writing. I think you, Oceaniz, and many, MANY others have gotten me to look into MHA on a much deeper level. I might just be some random subscriber, but seriously. Thank you so much for sticking with MHA to the very end. And to leave off some corny line "Don't cry because MHA's over. Smile because it happened." Thank you once again for making these MHA videos, streams, retrospectives, etc. It may be the last time you'll cover MHA, but I'm DEFINITELY not going away anytime soon, whether it's Re:Zero or Kagurabachi (which I just recently caught up to), I'll stick around and see what more you can offer!❤ -FireShadow
I'm gonna leave this comment here, saying that I cannot wait for the inevitable historical revisionism that will happen towards this section of the series when the anime adapts it. It has been really interesting seeing the narrative about certain choices in the story change as they get animated. Over night the most hated and criticized aspects of the manga get turned into some of the most beloved moments of all time. I guess it's just a symptom of the only people still watching MHA being diehard fans (and I include myself in that group despite my criticisms of the manga and the anime). I expect by the time the anime adapts the ending of the manga most people will say it's peak fiction, not only forgetting what it was like at the time, but pretending it was never even considered bad by some people in the first place.
You sir, have great music tastes. Used bangers from Sonic, Pokémon, Persona, Xenoblade etc. Amazingly put together video, and I'm sorry to hear you and your friends has to endure all that toxicity.
Great retrospective. Made me laugh like crazy couple of times. I'm glad that there are people who actually share my feelings about the series. Extra question: How the fck did Deku graduate from hero class without a quirk? He still needed to do 2 more years of classes, quirk training, hero duties, saving missions and stuff.
You are one of those comments that view the end negative, that I truly respect. While I enjoy the end, I see your point of view and us genuinely valid. And I am grateful that you took your time to break down your reasons for seeing the story the way you do, and give real reasons for it... Instead of it feeling like it's for the sake of hate, or focussing on things the story was never meant to do... Your opinions actually have story basis and I appreciate it.
@@idontcare9661 not my intention when I made that claim, I'm sorry if it came out that way. I've seen some valid criticism in shorter videos. But I've also seen alot of other ones that make me question if they were reading the same story. But not every short video criticizing Mha is mindless hate. Sorry if that's how my statement came off.
wonderful Video. I really felt this act really fissled out for me in the story department but by then I was long hooked and wanted to see it till the end. The art got even better and kept me reading and It makes me really look up to Horikoshi and strive to be as skilled as him.
I choked up at that last "thank you guys, for everything" You're fucking welcome Asa, you beautiful human being. It has been a fantastic journey enjoying the good times and suffering through the slop together. Can't wait to see what you do from here on out Now Kagurabachi retrospective when? :^)
With that said, I hope everyone enjoyed the My Hero Academia run time, despite it's low damps and high peaks it was an unforgettable experience. C'est fini.
Asa, I wanted to thank you for this series, as it, & several of your other videos, have been insanely helpful with the act 3 rewrite & I honestly don't think I'd have even half the ideas I've got if not for your videos analysing this series. I'll be sure to thank you, Oceaniz, & everyone else that has helped in the actual videos when they come out.
IT'S HEREEEEEEEE Would it be weird to edit and add my thoughts as I go through lol? - 5:33 hurts to hear that and while i was just a lurker i remember seeing those moments and getting weirded out by them. It's fine to have criticisms towards your fav series and it shouldn't be *one side vs the other. 8:45 it really could've given us some of the best Deku moments too... but stopped just before we got some actually intersection from him.. 11:34 would've been so interesting! Especially with the Endeavor we have now who is trying to be good. Like what emotions would he show? How would he deal with that and the public shaming him for his family abuse at the same time? With trying to track afo down as well! Just a lot that could be expanded upon that we didn't get... 14:35 valid. That's something i feel with a lot of the moments in act 3. 15:03 haha...... 16:21 just such a weird thing. Seeing people excuse it while it would've been perfect for his plan. Also knowing about shiggy's quirk and that theory thanks to the ending it MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE?? Even just to give to nomu's or anything would've been good especially since Chisaki literally can't use it anymore.
1:00:25 Midnight’s death was LITERALLY reduced to a Family Guy cutaway gag 😂💀
“Hey, remember when I killed that random UA teacher?”
LMAO
Oceaniz passing the torch to Asa was the real MHA all along.
"Asa, you can become a youtube anime analyzer."
“You too can become dissilusioned and apathetic to MHA.”
“Asa, You too can become a critic of MHA!”
LOL
there are so many signs this series was meant to go on so much longer, it really is unfortunate we didn't get to see it fully through because it really could have been so much more
Hori didn't intend for the series to go on so long
@@TheYoungGeninSasuke He clearly flip-flopped on this. After the Culture Festival Izuku made a huge leap in power from 8 to 20% (previously it was 0->5 ->8%). Then the whole introduction of the 6 quirks, vestiges etc all feel like a clear way to have Izuku's journey of powerups be more interesting because hey, 6 new characters and powers and backstories and relations to OFA and more history etc. Clearly we're in it for the long haul. Then we throw hands in the war arc followed by a post-war arc that feels like it's supposed to digest all of the war arc before going to a second war arc. Timing of this is just weird.
@@TheYoungGeninSasuke a good example would be hori stating how the forest camp arc was meant to go on longer, but (im not sure if this part is entirely true) japanese viewers wanted things to be back to being based around the class, and the overall rushed nature of villain hunt makes that very apparent. Same for deku's power leaps and such , i could go into more detail but id just be rambling
Kinda yeah kinda no
Hori never intended for the series to be long and it doesn't Play to his strengths as a writer
It's moreso the series has elements that either NEED more time in order to be told faithfully or are structured such that they lend themselves to longer formats
More a case of hori having a lot plan but underestimating the work load when putting pen to paper and having to actually commit
But not in a ''I always intended this to be 122322 chapters'' way???
@@theradionicrevival8068 that's what i mean i jus didn't word it right
I think Horikoshi came up with the whole saving Shigaraki thing pretty late into the game. That's why All For One comes takes up so much focus. He wanted to give Shigaraki his moment while still have a 'demon lord.' defeated which unfortunately meant All For One the ancient evil became little more than a plot device with a personality shift that seemed to go from Megatron to starscream.
And then he didn't even go through with it fully. It felt like up until the end Hori was flip flopping on the whole issue.
No fucking way. The saving shigaraki thing was definitely planned since the Bakugo rescue arc with his flashback of no hero saving him. It’s just poorly executed
Izuku saving Bakugo from the sludge villian was supposed to be a paralell. To bad it never payed off.
Nah, but Deku telling Spinner to turn Shigaraki's life story into a comic book is actually deranged 💀
It's almost comical but I get what horikoshi was trying to do, its just as bad as shotos question to dabi after the final war being "Whats your favorite food" which we knew from previous chapters that he felt bad that he didn't even know that info and wanted to, it still just feels odd
That was a diabolical quote.
Ochako is my favorite character and this might be an odd thing to say but in retrospect I'm glad she didn't have as much panel time as the other main characters.
For me she is the most consistently written character and all of her major scenes end up being highlights at least for me
Im sorry Ochako Uraraka you deserved to be in a better manga
Congratulations on the full series coverage now with the retrospectives & thank you for allowing me to participate. It's been a pleasure 🥳
It’s wild how solid MHA was at first to have such an ass ending, but at least it had nice action. Good job, cheers.
Really felt like Horikoshi had a strong idea, but didn’t know how to expand upon it and end it. He could only focus on how to make it more “interesting.”
Oi Oi Oi do yew hauve a media literacy loicense, lad
Bro is NOT Billy Butcher 😭
I can forgive plot holes, ass pulls, and all other writing conundrums, but what I can't forgive is the abandonment of it's message. Even if the villains died or were killed I'd understand, but the systems of "heroes" and "villains" as they were presented in the manga prior still remain with no changes. The beating heart of the series was change and care and I didn't feel that with this ending. The more I think about it, the only thing I end up feeling is empty.
after MVA and his performance in PLW shigaraki became my favorite character by far and his treatment thereafter severely wounded me.
we watched him evolve from a nothing-villain w no presence into a force of nature who was just starting to flesh out his own ideals and act on them without his teacher’s guidance. And he was swiftly replaced by said teacher whose motivation was so sleep-inducing that it made me vomit!
if the story wasnt in such a rush to end i wouldve loved to see him become more cunning and calculated instead of becoming a brick wall that just needed to be broken down.
i could probably make my own 4 hour video about the kind of character i wanted shiggy to become
Chapter 419 is what made me fully tap out of mha. That was such an insult and a middle finger to me as a shigaraki fan. I felt like Horikoshi wasted our time more than I've ever before. What was the point of MVA, and PLW? What was the point of 379 where he regained control of his body and destroyed the AFO vestige? What was the point in Shiggy's entire arc just for it to ammount to nothing just like nearly everything else in the fucking story besides maybe (big emphasis on maybe) the Todoroki family plotline?
@@KCthemaXimumHonestly that Fucking Retcon was just unforgivable on how it damaged if outright destroyed everything about Shigaraki’s character and my favorite character.
God Damn Horokoshi for making this stupid retcon!
@@KCthemaXimum ive never been more excited about a character’s future than when i was reading PLW weekly and for all that excitement to lead to this pitiful conclusion is a tragedy
I am stunned that the war ended with Shigaraki dying in one punch. I only ever watched the anime, so I didn't know that was what happened. It makes me think 'what was the point of everything' considering that's the final result
I dont hate the ending. The series had fallen off so much, I wasn't surprised by it. I expected it. I'm legit sad to see how great it started, and how much it broke down.
I don’t usually comment on videos, but the retrospective and your other analysis videos on MHA have been so entertaining and interesting to watch. They’ve provided amazing advice of how improve my writing skills and things to avoid when writing a story. I also love how direct you are with your criticisms despite receiving so much hate in the community. Thanks for the ride and congrats on completing the retrospective!
One funny thing, I remember when I was around 15 years old, I had 3 thorns impaled deep on my knee. I wend to the doctor, they just cut open a little bit to get them out. I was out of comission for an entire week, because, as the doctor put it "the body is not biologicaly made to have objects inserted into it or cut open, so it will spent all the resources, nutrients and energy to fix the cut following a surgery, no matter how small:. So imagine how stupid I thought it was that Bakugo (ignoring all other damage) had his heart explode, and then went through open heart surgery, and just stands up. I know it's a shonen, but come on.
It's the inconsistency that kills me. A character can receive damage and you can't even judge from vibes whether it's lethal or not. one moment, having about 50% of your body obliterated is fucking lethal and the next moment it's not. Nighteye's chest wound was proportionally smaller than Torino's and Torino fucking lives.
Tbh even by mha standards it's not a thing characters regularly did
@thakillman7 Nighteyes whole Gut got turned into a hole lost his left arm Lmao I think he got it worse than torino
Huh
Feels so weird to just see the fandom just happily accept the manga's shortcomings and act like what it set up and fail to execute wasn't that big a deal even though that setup is what most readers look forward to. You have to intentionally turn off your thought process to not realize what was missing from that execution
It’s just Hori riders that can’t take any ounce of criticism and have to go through insane loops to force anything to make sense
I read through it and thought it was great so does that just make me stupid
This is why I’ll never really take u guys seriously u speak like ur opinions are objective and get mad when people like something that u don’t to the point where ur sayin stupid shit like this lol
Stop crying because people liked something you didn't. It's pathetic.
That’s stupid. Most of the complaints here are just people’s headcannons not happening especially with AFO. I agree with the other gripes but that doesn’t mean people who don’t are inferior. I thought the end was fine and my only real gripe was it ended to soon
Proving the villains right in the end was certainly one of the choices of all time, goodbye MHA, it’s been real
I hate Horikoshi so much I hope he never writes another word on the paper. He's terrible at following through on his concepts
@zomebody5529 Fr, bro just woke up one day and forgot how to write. I can't believe I thought I could trust him to give us a satisfying conclusion to the story after the end of Act 2. Letdown after fucking letdown, literally all he did was waste our time. All for Nothing. Those 3 words are how I can describe the series ending.
Twice you cutie patootie
God it’s so Sad how My Hero truly fell after the Dabi’s Dance chapter. It’s like Horokoshi (or rather his infamous editor) forgotten how to write his own characters and all the things we loved about the heroes and the Villains were just (mostly) sucked out of them for the final act and all we got were just a bunch of action figures bumping into each other.
With a Less interesting Plot Device Villain All For One taking over as the Final Villain.
Guys, I have started a new fan story based on MHA where the reader themselves is the protagonist. There are currently 3 chapters, and I hope you all like it. Each chapter is pretty long and takes atleast 15 minutes to read completely. I assure you there are no stupid plotholes which make you feel awkward or cringed out. I just am trying to fix MHA myself while bending the story and adding some more plots to it, while focusing on the reader still being the protagonist.
It's on my community page. Please do comment if it is bad, because it would help me to understand if I should continue or just stop it.
I think the potential misogyny aspect of miruko’s injuries is just how severe and how many she gets while other characters go through equal or worse physical trauma (hawks, nagant, torino, bakugou) and almost perfectly heal from it with the worst of it being some cool scars
I don't know if I'd say it's misogynistic that she gets scars when Ochako, Jiro, and Mt. Lady are among other characters who recover without significant injury. I will say that the continued limb rending for Mirko did come across as weirdly fetishistic, though. I remember there being a lot of discussion about whether Hori was into ryona when those chapters were current.
Bakugou's revival gets even worse when you realise that Edgeshot didn't need to do anything. Best Jeanist is right there! He can control fibres, why didn't he use his Quirk to stitch Bakugou's wounds with fibres? Then the magical sweat drop can do its thing and jump start his heart.
Nitroglycerin is heavily used in adrenalin and heart attack medication so the sweat drop COULD have worked realistically--if there was a prior spark to ignite it.
While I don’t like the Bakugo revivial, Edgeshot did more than just “stitch wounds”. He was acting as a pacemaker on top of that. Regardless, it felt ridiculous. It didn’t really feel like there was enough build up that reviving a dead person was even in Edgeshots repertoire of abilities. I never really took that as being a capability of foldabody. But I guess it can be left up to interpretation of his quirk based on the “I just fiddled with his insides” line after taking out Kurogiri in chapter 88. Either way, it felt a little contrived. Atleast Hori did give Bakugo some awesome moments after bringing him back.
Congratulations on finishing this video, Asa! I know it was a huge undertaking.
MHA will always be special to me for being my first real gateway into manga and anime. I really enjoyed the show and even if my investment and enjoyment dwindled a bit over the years, with Horikoshi's writing and pacing decisions, I am glad to have been along for the ride.
This truly is the end of an era, a huge shonen is leaving the magazine.
So, thank you all for the good and bad memories, Horikoshi and everyone I've interacted with, talked with or watched about My Hero Academia.
Its been an honor.
THE ARGUMENT FOCUSER 3000 that's hilarious
Tokoyami's "Amp Man" image was wild.
@@ProjektTaku whats the time stamp? im watching in small portions, my pp brain cant handle watching in one sit
It was funny at first but it dragged on for waaaayyyyy too long
@@errorstudioz uuuh really?? im mostly hearing this as a podcast so i only saw it once for a bit over a minute, and u kno, the video IS more than 3 hours 😭😭 dont know if i agree with ya
Uraraka almost dies from being stabbed meanwhile during test where All Might pretend to be villain, Bakugou gets kick in his face with enough force to lunch him through building and he walks it off as if nothing happened
meanwhile bakugo got his fucking chest opened and was later able to speedblitz AFO 😭
2:12:00 Horikoshi couldn't handle the technology of the world he created, that's why he always pretend it doesn't exist when it would be convenient which in return force characters like momo out of the way because she can never reach her full potential without the reader realizing that a lot of things in that world should be taking advantage of the very advanced technology that exists in mha.
he should have left it in the void like he did in the early seasons, instead of confirming that with enough money and no quirk you can literally fight the top 1 in the verse
I think it's pretty disappointing that Deku started this series as a Quirkless boy that wanted to become a hero like All Might so he could save others and have a reassuring presence, while also juggling the issue of having too much hero worship for All Might while also having a lot of internalized self-hatred. But then he just never actually learned how to be the type of hero he admired All Might for. The dialogue from one of the final battles outright says that he still thinks of himself as a loser without OFA and that's never addressed. Deku never has to reevaluate his self-worth or overcome any internal flaws that hold him back from his full potential. Just get in the bath, stinky, and let's wrap this series up.
All Might himself said he was a hero that surpassed him. And Deku seemed pretty happy being a teacher
Kinda feels like if in ATLA's fight against the fire lord, Aang straight up killed the Fire Lord, who'd then thank him because... reasons. And then Zuko would tell Aang 'nah man, you totally saved him'. Also Azula kills herself trying to kill Zuko.
You forgot the part where Sozin body jacked Ozai, but yeah pretty much
@@sebastiansepulveda547 oh and Aang loosing his avatar state/abilities and all his bending.
@@ProjektTaku oh yeah, and Aang and Katara going unresolved
@@ProjektTakuOnly for him to get a- idk, flamethrower strapped to a water gun? And a rock. So that he can still be the Avatar ten years and two chapters later.
MHA using Avatar as a comparison can actually just be described as...
Avatar: Legend of Korra's Book one but wayyyy more than just 12 episodes.
Korra is literally just Deku.
Hori saw the "Vigilantes is better" crowd and, as a joke, decided to prove them right by making his ending as dogshit as possible
On the real, I think Hori just burned out near the end.
The ending was good
@@sonic5993 Maybe. I feel like Hori just wanted to wrap up the big plot points in his mind (todoroki family, uraraka, and the big 3 I think) and introduced that *villan*/lost boy at the end to show that society was going to improve. But i feel for the last chapter he wanted to add more, but didn't know how to or what to do anymore so he just made a collage of images and made the 8 year timeskip in order to finish and be done with the series.
I enjoyed it though
@@mysticfoil Like I said, burnt out. He's been talking about his anxiety with this series for years and I think he just couldn't handle it anymore and decided to just put it out of its misery.
Thank you for making this
I know this took way too long ❤
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
OKAY SO I'M NOT CRAZY FOR SAYING I WANTED A GENUINE DOZEN OF EPISODES SO I COULD SEE DEKU GO FROM SMILING TO BECOMING A DARKER VERSION OF THE PERSON HE ONCE WAS?!
Same! Hot take but I'd rather he ended up as that sort of hero. Anything's better than what we actually got for him
@@danieljoseph8158 Real, quirkless iron man dude. It's a cool outfit- cool he's strong now but even him being super strong with his robo-suit, I wanted him to do it with his own power- not some trillion-dollar toy. Plus, I feel like that'd limit the fights and how tense they are. His best will always be his limit, he can- never get stronger, only smarter and I think that sucks.
It’s finally here, I know how long you’ve been working on this, and you should be so proud man ❤ this whole series has been genuinely some of your best work and it’s really a showcase of not only your work ethic, but your perseverance, very few will understand the dedication it takes to accomplish something like this with a series as exhausting as MHA. Congratulations ❤ and o7 to MHA 🙏
o7
i seen some people in the fandom say we need an alternative ending chapter which i agree... to an extent.
Because the problems didn't begin in the final chapter,that's like being given a huge dump on a plate with a rotten cherry on top but instead of saying you literally served human waste and you want a refund for that,you say you just don't like cherries and want a refund for the cherry. to have a good alternative ending we would have to factory reset *everything* past chapter 306. so we don't just need an alternative ending. We need an alternative final act
Everything started going wrong when Mr. Potato Head poked his face out of the gap in Shigaraki's.
IT'S FINALLY OUT. Now you can become the greatest Kagurabachi youtuber. Gonna use this vid for falling asleep thank you.
It's finally over. You should be more than proud of yourself, Asa. This truly was Our Hero Academia.
Let's LEAKS TONIGHT in another time and place.
My favorite part of the video was Oceaniz appearing at the last second and gifting me a lifetime Gold membership, this really was our hero academia
The biggest villain in My Hero Academia was Horikoshi's indecisiveness and lack of commitment to a message.
He just couldn't pick a lane when it came to his potrayal of Hero Society and the way it should be resolved, and so we have the build-up and plot-points that show its faults and shortcomings, and the way it contributes in the creation of its own villains, but all of that ends up amounting to NOTHING because the heroes just "win" by killing all the villains and we are supposed to believe everything is fixed now. And all of the previous nuance and complexity is just... lost like that.
It truly feels like Horikoshi got cold feet after My Villain Academia arc (easily one of the bests arcs on the manga), and just decided to backtrack and make MHA the typical Superhero story.
its crazy how i can disagree with almost every subjective opinion in this video, but can still appreciate the hard work you put into it and respect why you have your opinions. good work man!
What do you disagree with?
@@joshuaagee-bass4049 i could explain all my differing thoughts, but personally i just dont want to get into a pointless online argument with someone I dont know, for something that doesnt matter.
Ive been in enough online powerscaling arguments to understand its a massive waste of time and brain power.
Well since you have a Toga Pfp I'm curious do you agree or disagree with his options on the Toga section?
@@dolphinpower1107no like theres some stuff he says is good that i agree with, and theres stuff he says is bad that i agree with, but mostly i just disagree with a lot of the smaller nitpicks, in which he makes like hundreds. It was just a little annoying to watch him repeatedly make side point that made me go "w... what?? Theres completely valid explinations for this huh?"
^For example, he says its bad writting that there arent central characters that dislike endevor/or dont like him anymore after dabis dance. Meanwhile 1. Endevor admited to what he'd done, apologized, then he said AND proved that he is attoning. 2. His family has forgiven him for what he did, 3. That stuff was like, over 10 years ago 4. Literally anyone who has talked to endevor would realize he's not like this anymore and that he's become a better person. And 5. The wind guy not hating endevor anymore makes PERFECT SENSE, because the REASON he said he hated him was because of that "look in his eyes" (because of endevors deep seeded hatred and lack of kindness), endevor doesnt have that anymore and is like, kinda a softie, so if the wind guy saw legit anything about endevor, or endevor himself, anytime recently, it makes 100% sense he wouldnt hste him anymore because the reason he hates him is gone.
Why would you expect characters to not see this? If you still disagree, look at ALL mha fans, theres like almost nobody who doesnt forgive endeavor, thats because anyone who knows all the information about his situation and has any shred of empathy would not see him as a bad person. For a real life example look at kendrick lamar, wether the allegations are true or not, when people saw that his family had no ill will against him, even IF he did beat them at one point, we know he and his family moved on and he became a better person. I personally have never seen someone who wont forgive kendrick, or someone who didnt forgive endeavor for what he's done, so why does this guy expect the characters to feel that way, characters who should know endeavor and understand what hes like now compared to before. Thats just, kinda dumb ngl.
^and see look at that. It took THAT long to respond to one of this guys points he made in 10 seconds in a 4 hour video. I have like 50 more of these in the chamber. Its not that i find everything he says to be wrong, its just that he makes TONS of points like this that I disagree with.
But yea i pretty much agree with what he said about the toga stuff lol, i think it mightve hit a little bit harder for me though since im pretty sure im more emotionally invested in these characters than he seems to be.
And yea, i do think toga dying is stupid and dumb, but at least it felt pretty emotional to see her chose to sacrifice herself for someone she loved instead of killing someone she loved, and to see her die happy and on her own terms. So i dont like it, but I also dont COMPLETELY hate it.
@rustedcrabtm6438 i can agree with what you said here, but its admittedly pretty boring lol no other reason than that.
It's much more entertaining to see the interpersonal drama unfold. Especially since Endeavor as a character is so closed off to anybody OTHER than his family, except maybe hawks.
Like, his bond with the sidekicks are practically nonexistent, so shaking up the pot would make them more interesting within the story.
And as for wind guy, i don't really care about him, he's just a nothing burger of a character.
Horikoshi abandoning Yaomomo and tossing her character in the garbage is still one of the biggest sins in mha. Especially with how deku is going to be a hero moving forward in his life. She could've easily been one of if not the best hero in class A, and she gets nothing.
Momo was doomed the moment she got the second most votes in the class presidency, only for Deku to ignore that and put Iida in charge when he ceded the role. It was pretty much a perfect representation of how she was treated from then on.
I personally think Shigaraki is one of the beat manga characters out there. He's ny fav character so it huets to see how his story ended. Shiggy deserved a better ending
Till this day we still don’t know what Dabi said to Hawks and even if it’s “I’m Endeavor’s Son” I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE SAID
If you read his lips, he's saying "Touya Todoroki" or "Todoroki Touya" right before we hear him tell Hawks "more than any other Villain, you should've had your eyes on me." Or that was the jist. Point being, the part we didn't hear was just his name.
It’s honestly amazing how My Hero Academia started out so unique from other shonen (like the main character hurting himself if he used his power at 100%, attempts to address serious themes like the public worshipping celebrities like gods, when they’re clearly not, and characters potentially having life or career ending consequences) only for the series to lose all the things that made it stand out from the competition which resulted in it ending up as a generic shonen instead. Which is honestly depressing
That's bs
If you actually read it you'll see that it's actually consistently written
Sorry Sergeant Johnson not even you can convince me this series was consistent
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 It got a little wonky when a top hero decided to save the day by becoming someone's heart. On a meta level even for fiction it is quite absurd.
I remember it being praised as being revolutionary shonen unlike any other shonen, how it dodged all the flaws and tropes and everything. And while yea at the time it was obviously overly optimistic, it's just a huge shocking leap to the current "Actually extrajudicial murder is good, how dare you disagree" and "if you disagree with me you're an illiterate child" and "nobody ever believed *most popular theory in existence*.
It went the ways of things like naruto, DB , the simpsons
Where it went from being counter culture to becoming ''the culture''.
okay,so now mha's final volume is gonna get 60 bonus pages,probably to try to fix the mha ending somehow but like...
that's pretty much the clip of the simpsons where homer and bart chase their barbecue while homer saying "it's still good,it's still good".
I mean,the damage was already done and 60 pages isn't gonna fix the bucketload of others problems the rest of the final act had
When is the volume coming
@@soab2173 december
I'm glad someone else's acknowledged Midorya haven't really grown as a character instead he's lost what made him unique in favor of a flanderized "average shounen mc" version of himself who's worse than the more nuanced and unorthodox protagonist who he once was at the beginning
2:30:23 This is total insanity.
Edit: Just so we are all on the same page I'm saying that it's insane that Hori basically turned Izuku Midoriya into a literal Deku. (木偶 -> Wooden Figure.) I think Asa/Zenrotto said it best in a Shonen N' Chill episode, "Deku is basically a missile that they point at the objective."
It's a terrible fate for a character I cared for so much.
no counter arguments?
@@AsarathaHSYT I mean that proving that Deku was basically a pawn was insane.
@@SpringyDinge89 understandable have a nice day
honestly, My Hero Academia as a whole to me is simply one big great idea that was executed poorly. a futuristic world where superpowers are so normal that growing up without one gets you marginalized like you're a lesser race, where Hero is a real profession that literally shaped society as a whole but is secretly corrupt from the inside, and a main villain who's lived hundreds of years and whose power lets him steal any power he wants? fucking gold! incredible ideas! going to school to get a hero license? it would be so cool to see what the curriculum would be. two more main villains (Shigaraki and Dabi) who are only villains directly thanks to how Hero society failed them? incredible. this story could have been so good, all of the potential was there, and to me as a whole Horikoshi just wholly fumbled the execution on almost every single one of his great ideas.
dont get me wrong, i love this show. it was the first anime i ever watched, i consume tons of fanfiction for it as well as write my own and its really dear to my heart, but you cant deny that Hori fumbled, big time.
(here's where the EDIT starts because i refuse to read the manga because of how trash it had already become and so was using this video to recap myself on the ending. the first half of this comment was written halfway through the video, when i was calm and just a little disappointed. the second half of this comment was written after i finished the video, and now im pissed. really, really pissed.)
look at a show like attack on titan, another series with a questionable ending. maybe you think it was an absolute dogshit retcon, maybe you think it wasn't so bad, but the least you have to say is at least it feels like Isayama was trying to make something good. it is really hard to end a legendary shounen series that lasted years in a way thats super cohesive when there is so much to tie up. the AOT ending felt weird and somewhat disjointed to me, but i wasnt offended by it the way i feel just honest to god disrespected by horikoshi's shit ending. it feels like the man could not care less about the integrity of his plot or his characters. "i do everything with respect for the world of MHA"? what a fucking joke, man. at least try to make something you can be proud of. it shouldn't even be debatable how disgustingly bad the cast of characters were treated, retconned and thrown away into oblivion. im left to wonder what the point of it was. what does horikoshi think he's getting across as the message of the series with the ending he wrote. i could write an ending better than that. jesus christ people HAVE written endings better than that for MHA. archiveofourown.org/works/14572500/chapters/33674223 literally here. here's an example. read it, or dont. its good. words dont describe how disappointed i am in horikoshi and how upset i am at the way one of my favorite shows of all time got slaughtered.
The enitre LoV became villains because hero society failed them.
Shigi and Dabi are the most obvious, but iirc Conpress's family was basically Robin Hood, stealing from the rich to gice to the poor. Toga sought help with her tendencies but instead of helping her coexist and managing her urges (which could be as easily managed as teaching her self-discipline to only take a safe amount of blood regularly and teachig her consent and communication skills), Hero society instead ostracized her and make her bottle up her emotions until she couldn't anymore. Hero Hunt reveals that the government intentionally lets peole fall through the cracks and become villains, and is therefore designed to lack social safety nets, which Twice fell victim too. Spinner was the victim of racism. Mha racism is very blatantly based of irl racism. While racism is done by individual racists, racism is a systemic problem. Hero Society has shown to value heteromorphs less than other people due to them being esthetically harder to market and profit off of. Valuing certain minorities less creates racist biases and sterotypes that propagate racism.
I agree with you, I just wanted to point out the entire LoV are victims of Hero Society, not just Shigi and Dabi
@@Deadweight45 ah yeah good point!
Looking back I really like Uraraka vs Toga. I mean I always loved the fight since I really like the idea of Toga using Twice's quirk while Uraraka's quirk awakening. But looking back it's really nice to see their fight way more.
Even toga's death was in my opinion good because it really made uraraka's character in the epilogue more interesting.
Too fucking bad that we never saw uraraka do the one thing her story was being built up since the start. It's the one thing in this entire 3rd I really actually dislike.
Also I don't know if it's just me liking animes in general but I feel like the anime made the entire third arc way better than the manga ever did.
I mean take mirio for example, in the manga it felt like he was missing the entire arc. But in the anime he was missing for like the first episode of the fight but then he was in the rest of the fight until deku kicks in.
2:27:55
A good chunk of the anime fandom is like this.
They don’t want character to have character development and inter spetion. They just want them to see them fight and get the girl at the end and fight some more
The problem with Ochako vs. Toga being about a guy is that the feelings weren't mutual. Deku turned Toga down. It was also never confirmed that Deku liked Ochako in a romantic way. By the time Deku left to fight Shigaraki, Toga was over her crush on Deku, yet for some reason, Ochako had to bring up that she also had a crush on him. It's boring that her whole development revolves around Deku. I also want to add that Toga's death wasn't necessary. She could have lived and been taken by the police for questioning. After some rehabilitation, Toga could have worked with Ochako to improve Quirk counseling.
[English is not my first language, sorry for bad english] It makes me want to cry because MHA is one of my favorite mangas of all time, its always been a comfort of mine I went to when I was sad. It makes me want to cry because I don't feel like this is how the story should end, I felt that I liked the ending but that was just it. I liked it. I feel like I wanna be feeling more about the final war, but other than specific moments, the whole arc just felt like a big memory fog for me
Anyways, great video!!! You pointed out a lot of things I didn't notice on first read (probably because I shut my brain off during the read, I shouldn't do that a lot :/ I just go 'oooo pretty pictures' on first read usually, lol)
Your English was perfectly fine!
@@AsarathaHSYT Thank you C:
MHA ended like the promised neverland. We knew what we wanted and even after Deku and Emma sacrificed something, they were left out of the main resolution. Only to wander off somewhere. After some time passed, they are reunited with their friends/family and have a lot of catching up to do. Though this is where the story ends. So it’s impossible to say if it’s a fitting ending or just a consolation prize.
Unlike Ben 10 who quit being a hero for years, Deku had no call to an adventure after leading a decent, peaceful life. So is being a hero for him in the end just a hobby or sports?
pretty much, he was never put in the hero life by force or anything. he was just a kid who really wanted it and got lucky.
It's fitting that both of the manga I was obsessed with in highschool ended up with similarly disappointing and rushed back ends of their stories.
The best word i can say about the story is this... "ｗｈａｔ ｔｈｅ ｆｕｃｋ．ｗａｓ ｔｈｅ ｐｏｉｎｔ ｏｆ ｔｈｉｓ？"
@59:29 THIS THIS RIGHT HERE IS SO TRUE HORI WANTS TO HAVE HIS CAKE AND EAT IT TOO, I cant get over how annoying it got when he drops themes and stakes for a moment for example dabi getting back up WHY he had his fight with shoto but oh wait he also needs to confront the family???? ok yeah im glad people are noticing it more.
"Guys, thank you for the suit. Now i can roleplay as a super hero from time to time"
When deku accepted the charity cuck ironman suit, not only did it undermine the "losing the power" ending, it also undermines the "respectable teacher" ending. It indirectly implied that being a teacher is not enough. You still can't make a difference in this world if you are quirkless.
Also, making the class 1-a be too busy from hero work to hang out implies that villain activity is still rampant and the ofa vs afo stuff barely changed the status quo. What a payoff for "this is a story how I/we became the greatest hero". Stain has more effect in the society than deku.
I kind of figured that if the class couldn’t make some time to be with deku, the guy that has done so much for them, then either A, hawks pretty much lied about heroes having a lot more down time or B, they do have downtime since villains are pretty low nowadays and the class just didn’t do much for being with deku for no reason which makes them even more worthless.
It's particularly lame that Deku can only be a hero via the hand-outs of others, particularly when his whole character beat was "I am worthless, but One for All is everything." Having someone else come along and replace OFA with some other crutch for him to lean on and see as a sacred cow just means that Deku never grew. He should be able to be a hero on his own merits and see value in what he does.
Ngl the talk about Regeneration made me immediately think of Sukuna fight and how much of slog fest it was- like you said, "throwing their biggest flashy attack that led to them being boddied"
MHA was THE anime that actually got me into watching/reading more seriously. I honestly didn’t catch a lot of the nuances and themes on my first read/watch but I loved it all the same. Seeing you explain the fall and, now being able to comprehend the themes and message clearly, brings me a lot of sadness. I think he created something really special and to throw it all the way in the last arc is heartbreaking. Being created from passion and high hopes only for its own author do it injustice at the end is sad. Really wish he could’ve seen it through, and I’m sure he wanted to as well, but I guess the stress and fatigue was finally getting to him…
It could be stress, but there’s also the possible fact that the editors were pushing him to finish ASAP.
And there was the fact that Horikoshi had to cut the summer training camp arc short because sales and readership was dropping.
Hell, maybe even he got stressed due to the toxicity of the MHA fandom (he even got death threats).
So a lot of things, basically. Which is really sad.
MHA is a show that I started back when season 2 or 3 was airing. Soon after season 4 finished, I decided to continue in the manga while just watching the anime as it come already knowing what happens. Towards the end of the series, I started feeling burnt out and dreading each new chapter. The final chapter releasing truly made me feel nothing. Normally when a series ends, even when the ending isn't the best, I feel some sort of appreciation for the journey, but throughout the entire 3rd act, I just felt beat down over and over. This was wildly disappointing as I loved the series at first. But I was just let down.
My brother was a huge MHA fan (as well as Sonic fan, perfect music taste), and he passed away last December. Regardless of how the series ended, I wish he would've been able to see the end of his favorite series. Regardless of how burnt out I felt of the series, I'm glad MHA was able to give my brother incredible memories. One of the last things he said is that he's going to "go beyond, 120%, plus ultra". Thank you MHA for allowing to give my brother an escape during his life going through cancer treatment and end of his life.
Speaking of Dad4One, it’s a little crazy how glossed over Deku’s dad became. We know he had an unknown fire quirk, and since Deku was already kind of in the middle of the Todoroki family drama, you’d think he’d be able to do _anything_ with that information to help Shoto reach Dabi. At least to have *any* connection to any of the villains.
There used to be this now clearly insane sentiment in the series that basic quirks like fire and ice were common. But no. Deku, who has nothing to do with anything, has literally never spoken to 4/6 members of the league (including the dead ones) before the epilogue. Twice? Who’s that?
Man, I will really miss your streams though. I’m not into re:Zero like you’re not into One Piece, so, next JJK video when?
I imagine Deku's original potential Quirk was going to be Pyrokinesis(Dad Breathes fire+Mom moves objects towards her) and that he would get that as well as one for-all in the end, Earning the power after beating shigaraki and all for one and going on to really be the GREATEST hero but instead going to work at mcdonalds.Bro this series ending reminds me of a MAD Magazine where its a chart that always leads back to Mcdonalds.
@@davidkuykendall3778 even that would be better. Him loosing his power that gave him his shot but then awakening his own?
Its crazy when you consider the parallel's between Dabi and Deku. Both damage themselves with their Quirks that they inherited from top heroes who they want to make proud, but don't have suitable bodies for that Quirk and eventually awaken hidden abilities from it, but Todoroki never even makes a correlation between the two.
@@ProjektTaku I was actually thinking he keeps All for one and on top of that as well as his own quirk. But I like your too and Its better thematically then what we really got where it all...
goes back to Mcdonalds, yep I can see those golden arches.
Remember kids, its not about hard work or determination, but Money and connections.
This might be just a random and stupid thought, but a super great contrast character for Toga to fight would have been Mineta, both are characterized by theyre atraction, but due to how Mineta fits more into the "straight male who likes butts and boobies" he is more accepted than the bisexual bloodlusted girl, a face off of the two where they discuss how to understand and differentiate love and atraction would have been fun
Maybe but Mineta would be a character that I would cut out of the story entirely.
@@cannabishornliu6119 yeah, but he is in and its quite the anoying trope, so might as well get something out of it
@@cannabishornliu6119God, do I wish he was just the coward character.
Whenever he gets a moment of fighting through his fear to do something heroic I really like, however he always, without fail doed some pervert nonsense immediately afterwards, loosing any good will the moment earned from me.
Mineta having Toga as an antagonist and having to deal with unwanted attraction sounds like it'd be a neat way to handle his shift from "pervert who likes the idea of being a hero for popularity" to "actually maturing hero who understands boundaries".
Instead, he's just kinda... that kid with the grape hair that kinda sorta convinced AFO not to steal Dark Shadow, I guess.
Great video man, and I really appreciated your takes on Dabi in these retrospectives! Thanks for all your hard work making these bro
I just thought about it as you were talking about all might, but it would have been so nice to see his character arc being that of a man who thought he could carry society on his back, without ever really challenging the status quo, to that of man who understands that the systems in society are the ones who should be protecting the people, like imagine after losing OFA, somewhere along the line all might has to grapple with the idea that his entire lifes effort was a waste, just being a bandaid and keeping the status quo, when what he should have been doing was changing the society that fails the villains, this would have made the dynamic between him and deku so interesting, like imagine a world where the last theme of my hero academia, is how All Might was able to improve japanese society, not as a hero, but as a quirkless activist/politician etc. The contrast of that with how deku desperately wanted a quirk, when what society needs was a change to its systems, and all that can be done without a quirk. It really would have elevated all might's character, the mentor seeing his pupil potentially waste his life the same way he did, but i do wonder, even if horikoshi had the time to actually make a ending that wasn't rushed, would he have really actually have critiqued even a little bit of modern day capitalist society, i really doubt it.
Huge props for completing the whole retrospective from start to finished. I too had to trudge along with the manga until the beginning of the final arc, which in hindsight was way too late to drop it. Though the apathy of seeing continual disappointments from villain hunt onwards was still there.
When I got into MHA through the anime, I thought it was pretty cool and a fun watch. It wasn't until I found your channel that I really began to understand and dig deeper into the story and found a new appreciation for it... until it sucked lol. Even though I found MHA very late into it's life I'm thankful to have found your channel as I enjoy your analytical videos and hope to be able to put my own constructive thoughts on series I enjoy on the level you have. I look forward to seeing what you have planned for the future!
decided to rewatch, and that ending kinda hit me, you talked about the fandom so much in the video, and on my first watch, i kinda... dismissed it??? "oh haha toxic anime fans", but it really wasn't that.
i started watching you like, a year and something ago (and joined some streams :3), you and oceaniz made me appreciate MHA more, and also made me more critical of certain aspects of it, however, my engagement with it basically ended there, I only discussed MHA with close friends, at most, as i was not someone in the fandom, or a twitter user, for that matter.
i really didn't know that MHA got you to where you are right now, friend group, youtube inspiration, etc, and while theres some stuff to love about that, it really must have sucked to have your passion for a story die like that, and to add to it, the toxic positivity it created in act 3, the way the fandom just didn't accept any critizism, and attacked people (like you, or) close to you for being critical of the series.
it kinda gave me a new perspective on it, its different to watch something and to be dissapointed by it; "oh haha that game of thrones thing ended badly, whatever!" and just move on, to the way you experienced it so closely.
like many others, great video, and i really hope whatever this shitshow was, it gave you something decent out of it, good luck on your next projects, and have a good one man
I love to come into a video thinking I know all the criticisms and still getting blindsided by obvious right hooks of Fridge Logic that I didn't see all this time. Himiko pulling Deku through the portal really does make zero sense when he has (at minimum) Full Cowling on plus Air Force, Fa Jin, & Black Whip at his disposal, as does leaving Kurogiri at Central Hospital instead of moving him to, say, one of Japan's other islands? Doesn't even need to be much, just have Cementoss build a concrete bunker for him before sending him onto the Coffin.
And to think swaths of the entire fandom became unable to open their senses to differences of opinions... Truly thankful to have not experienced that darkness first-hand purely by life circumstance. My heart goes out to everyone who suffered through that kind of dogmatic insanity.
I'll probably never get the good of early MHA out of my head, which makes it all the more important to come to know it as a whole; to love blindly is a fool's errand that can only lead to falling on one's face. I always knew I'd finish the series to conclusion as I have with other long-running series, but making the last leg of this journey alongside Asa really has made so much of a positive difference in the experience compared to others.
Go take a long rest and get your head on straight, Horikoshi; keep on doing good work, Asaratha. Thank you both, as well as to all the contributors for this powerful retrospective; wishing better things for each of you in the future!
The more i read it the more unsatisfying it become.
Interaction among character is lacking a lot, no way they lost contact for a years if they actually care with each other and always in good terms,like koichi still sending popstep a photo to show he is okay, why hori forbid deku and uraraka the same treatment at least?
Also maybe instead showing deku save a kid from tripping make something like spiderman 2 when peter lost his power, it better to proof a point that deku body still moving on his own rather something that every normal people would do.
Isnt he still hero with license? he can still helping people legally, it make him look like chicken out because he doesnt have op quirk anymore.
Yooo we finally here!
I first found this channel through your initial MHA racism video. I have some far watched almost every video since then and I’m happy that I did. Your videos have been great for listening to and have opened my views to manga in general. It’s also helped me get through some tough times in my life. Thank you Asa for everything and I’ll be here until The end! Also ALDARBRAN IS The GOAT
I am convinced that MHA is just a stealth prequel to The Boys. The ending pretty much confirmed that Heroes are still treated like celebrities. The world of The Boys takes it to a whole other level, having the Seven be in movies, action figures, and it wouldn't surprise me if they had comic books of romanticized version of themselves.
Got a day off. Wanna relax and chill. New 3 hour video. Perfect timing.
43 minutes in and there's one argument that I somewhat disagree with. The argument regarding tbe female characters who get destroyed and mutiliated compares to their male contemparies would naturally deserve some form if acknowledgement to be distinguished from male characters. I argue this because when you compare the occasions which the strongest amidst the female cast get to participate in high stakes fights to their male counterparts, a handful of the women get the short end of the stick in some fashion.
- Mirko gets more heavily mutilated than any character in the series during what was essentially her debut fight, and all she did was toss her weight around the same way a male character would. Whereas someone like Aizawa lost his leg essentially on his own terms to avoid the loss of his quirk.
- Star dies in her introductory battle as the strongest woman in the world and one of the strongest characters in the story.
- Midnight dies after failing to contribute anything to the Machia battle while Kamui Woods got burned alive and seemed to get along just fine despite being made of wood
- Ochako nearly bleeds to death from a single stab wound, while Bakugo survived numerous impalements
- Even a non-combatant like Rei had to suffer permanent burns just to contribute an arguably substantial role to the story
And obviously, male characters get their own fair share of brutalization and mutilation here and there. But it feels disproportionate when female characters contribute less often to higher stakes encounters and are made to suffer worse fates on average compared to male characters who are more abundant and have more opportunities to experience different outcomes in battle.
I don't think it points towards Hori as a misogynist, but I would argue that it understandably would leave a bad taste in the mouths of those who would enjoy female characters participating in the same power fantasy as male characters with no strings attached. I dont think there is really a female character in MHA who achieves that
The way that Mirko’s mutilation in particular is framed in the manga also comes across as weirdly sexually charged. Like do we have to see her crotch as she is being maimed? As she is on the ground bleeding out? Was that really necessary?
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 That is honestly more of an issue with her design than her circumstances, but I think I mostly agree
Comparing Ochako's stabwound to Bakugo's impalment and later his entire body being smashed to peices is not really fair because bakugo is clearly just built different, okay now the real reason is because in MHUR Ochako only has 250 base health while Bakugo has 300 so Bakugo in that fight had that extra 50 health to fall back on 😂
and also curious from the mla!! shes the only one we spent time with from the liberation army that died while redestro, skeptic and trumpet all ended up alive in prison which just feels odd.
I'd agree it's probably not misogyny, but I think there's still a bias against female characters. The female (barring Stars & Stripes and a few others like Nejire, Ryukyu, Momo, Mt Lady, Mirko) also tend to have fairly weaker quirks too. If you compare Ochako who needs to touch her opponent to float them compared like Shigereki or Overhaul who touching people can just straight up destroy them. Ochako's fights against Toga might as well be two regular women fighting which is a bit absurd when you consider the kind of battles going on around the same time.
A lot of the female character quirks seem to be disproportionately weak compared to their limitations or very support/scouting focused. And most of the stronger villains are either very durable or regenerate get defeated by one big attack. Something that almost none of the female character's quirks are capable of outside beating generic goons.
Thank you for all the time and energy you put into this final review of MHA's last stretch of the story. I am also terribly disappointed by how the series ended, and I am so sad about it... yet at the same time I feel numb. I just can't care anymore, because my interest has fallen so far down over the past few years. It's a shame, because I once loved this series so very much.
Thank you for making this video!!!
OMG HI TITANIA, Long time no see. It’s MC!
@@Tabriz06 Hi MC!!!
I've been waiting for this. Oceaniz introduced me to the series, but you're the reason I stuck through MHA at its worst. Thank you for the wonderful and hell driven journey. Can't wait to see what's in store for you!
I loved this series so much and even if it isn't perfect at all I still enjoyed it a lot (you're so based for putting such good music in this video, my respects man).
Im just barely an hour into this but i literally screamed at 1:02:11 when you mentioned tokoyami's comment on chihiro's ass. When i caught up on season 7, I recorded a whole breakdown of how MHA's humor has been weirdly misplaced and its characterizations butchered in later arcs and this specific scene was one of the largest ones at the heart of it!! I mean, I could understand Mineta or Denki saying something like this but Tokoyami usually carries himself with more respect and restraint so when I heard this, it made me ao incredibly sad. It made me realize how much each characters' individual voices and dynamics had been neutered when that was one of the main things I admired about the series to start with (as the creator of my own comic with a huge cast).
That said, I definitely had second thoughts about whether or not I was being too hard on this scene. But hearing it brought up here genuinely made me SO happy that i had to take a lap around the house and come leave this comment 🥲
so what I'm getting from this is that Horikoshi has never understood his own characters. also fuck his quote. what a load of shit. " i draw with a sense of RESPONIBILITY towards the WORLD of mha". 1) he doesn't understand his own made up cast of characters 2) all of this series happens in 2 maybe 3 years. 3) "always thinking on how to make it more interesting"? wtf, this has to be satire
I still find it so hilariously bad by the time the final war is done, class 1A is just becoming 2A. All the shit that happened and these guys are just starting their second year. Then we get thrown into an 8 year time jump because fuck us I guess
Timeframe should’ve been way extended but that’s frankly that’s one of the smaller issues in reference to everything else in the finale being so half-assed
@benjiago6800 No one forced you to read the story. At this point it is your own bloody fault 4 "wasting your time" not Hori's. Hori is just trying to tell a decent story but all you people do is complain and insult him. If you think you can do better go out and write your own story if not just #%^&&&** up!
@@tayojones9460 you sound like you’re just coping for his shitty story. Keep crying, buddy.
3:24 why do Gege like that😂
We had one hell of a journey with MHA. That is something we can all agree on.
@@wendylacey2745 I checked the recent episode of mha ... Like I said nothing but a polish trash
@@greengem9132 Are you kidding?! It’s the best episode of season 7 so far! The reviews would also disagree with your statement.
@@wendylacey2745 yeah but having context on what happened next in the story just makes it's worse, a fruitless character moment
@@greengem9132 You don’t know that. It’s possible that they might go in a different direction than the manga. Even if that doesn’t happen, they can at least add a few more scenes and context to make the ending a bit more satisfying.
@@wendylacey2745 and remember that comment you said about Astro boy being outdated, I finally checked the Pluto(2023) anime and by God it's beautiful and the character actually felt like actually people
It makes mha look like a web show
Bro went after everyone in this video, no one was safe here lol
But still, great video, I feel the same way about mha at the end, like I have a lot of fond memories getting into it, yet it felt like a major waste of time.
Bakugo is still my least favorite character and one of the most creators pet favorited rivals of all time, his development just comes and goes and he’s still the same by the end of the story, Stars and Stripes was absolutely pointless, and I genuinely think Horikoshi hates Midoriya, like I really don’t know why he just constantly gives him L’s or some kind of “this is a wrong thing you’re doing” lecture every time Midoriya does something, all mha has at this point is good-ish shounen action and good art, like man.
I am terminally online
When heard Malcom X speak in the beginning, I thought of Sonic Rush 💀
Too black, too strong x4 *violin begins to play*
This manga fell off so badly
100 million sales
@@ddg_snipa0187 sales don't indicate quakity
It will be cemented as one of the most successful and influential mangas of all time regardless of vids like these with people who had fake Stockholm syndrome for the series
@@ddg_snipa0187 crazy how he could have inspired a generation and actually did it for half the manga just to stop the creative character writing and only caring about redeeming the child/wife beater, the bully and the crazy girl with bloodfetish but not his MC because he wanted to copy naruto rage scenes until the very end and then talk no jutsu the villain
@@M.W.2you're funny can't lie lmaooooo
When I got to the argument of individual responsibility verses systemic responsibility at 3:35:00 I was reminded of those similar comparisons from watching Harry Potter video essays
Very good and solidly edited breakdown. Very thourough and I think just hit the nail on the head for basically every point
Hori sees the problem with Hero society, shows us how society has failed these people, and has society literally collapse due to its unsustainability, proving the villains correct.
Then he literally dumbs down all the villains (with except of twice, dabi, and toga) and kills them all off (except dabi). Then he turns around and puts all the blame on individuals for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. Acts like these critical flaws with society, which made it unsustainable and literally made it collaspe, is actually the fault of individuals, and the current status quo is great and the system itself could do no wrong.
The quirk counseling, designed to cure undesirables and make them fall in line, gets "expanded." I saw parallels between quirk counseling and Canada's residential schools, which were designed to "kill the Indian in the child," and worked to take ingenious children and forcefully strip them of their culture, history, any undesirable aspects of them to make them fall in line with white society. Both took people who fell outside of the government's opinion on what was okay and tried to cure those aspects instead of co-existing with them.
He specifically wrote about how the current government literally designed society to have it fail people and turn them into criminals in order to profit off them. His solution to this is to reward this corruption by putting the equivalent of a black site cia agent as its leader.
Not only does he try to completely invalidate the villain's ideas by putting all the blame on them and act like the status quo could do no wrong, but by doing so, he unintentionally proves the villains right. His ending is supposed to be a happy ending with everything getting better, but if you don't take his word for it and critically abalize it yourself, you'd see that killing the villains and discrediting them didn't change anything. All Might concept is an explicit critique of this idea, and the story disproves it by having society become disillusioned and collapsing as soon as the government's narrative is disproven. Yet Hori's ending seems to be in support of All Might's idealogy, reverting society back to what it was like under All Might and treating it as a happy ending after he spent years dissecting and critique every aspect of it. By trying to discredit them Hori accidently proves them completely correct. By writing what he thought was the solution to all the problems within society and what he imagined an ideal happy ending would be, he unintentional proved the villains correct, justified, and in the right, making this a dark ending.
I generally don't hate anyone (except for billionaires and their allies), but i feel genuine resentment towards Hori. Like he looked at the problems around him, and instead of looking deeper at his own work he instead spits in the face of everything I thought he stood for and blames it on the outsiders, saying it's their fault they suffered. I never thought I would feel this way over a piece of fiction, but I guess that only shows how invested I was with this world and how betrayed I feel by Hori's ideology.
I think AFO's giant mouth in the vestige realm is just a visualisation of him establishing dominance over his Quirks
Been patiently waiting for this video for so long and what an amazing conclusion to the MHA retrospective. Perfectly explains my issues with MHA's writing post-Act 3, the state of the MHA fanbase, Hori's declining health as well as the anime and with the cameos it's clear that a ton of love and passion was put into this video.
For me personally I'vealways had my opinions on MHA from time to time, and although they're not very positive, MHA still holds a special place in my heart. I loved the characters, the story, the worldbuilding, etc, and even though they were left underwhelming as Act 3 went on, I was still heavily invested in the story. My criticisms towards MHA come from a place of love (despite what MHAtwt likes to believe) because surprise surprise I cared about the story and writing. I think you, Oceaniz, and many, MANY others have gotten me to look into MHA on a much deeper level.
I might just be some random subscriber, but seriously. Thank you so much for sticking with MHA to the very end. And to leave off some corny line "Don't cry because MHA's over. Smile because it happened."
Thank you once again for making these MHA videos, streams, retrospectives, etc. It may be the last time you'll cover MHA, but I'm DEFINITELY not going away anytime soon, whether it's Re:Zero or Kagurabachi (which I just recently caught up to), I'll stick around and see what more you can offer!❤
-FireShadow
Kagurabachi and re zero fell off so bad
I'm gonna leave this comment here, saying that I cannot wait for the inevitable historical revisionism that will happen towards this section of the series when the anime adapts it. It has been really interesting seeing the narrative about certain choices in the story change as they get animated. Over night the most hated and criticized aspects of the manga get turned into some of the most beloved moments of all time. I guess it's just a symptom of the only people still watching MHA being diehard fans (and I include myself in that group despite my criticisms of the manga and the anime). I expect by the time the anime adapts the ending of the manga most people will say it's peak fiction, not only forgetting what it was like at the time, but pretending it was never even considered bad by some people in the first place.
Indeed, villain hunt for being so divisive in the manga, had a generally positive reception with anime-onlies from what i've seen.
Maybe the real My Hero Academia was this 3 part retrospective
You sir, have great music tastes. Used bangers from Sonic, Pokémon, Persona, Xenoblade etc. Amazingly put together video, and I'm sorry to hear you and your friends has to endure all that toxicity.
IM FREE OF THE SHACKLES
Great retrospective. Made me laugh like crazy couple of times. I'm glad that there are people who actually share my feelings about the series. Extra question: How the fck did Deku graduate from hero class without a quirk? He still needed to do 2 more years of classes, quirk training, hero duties, saving missions and stuff.
It's kinda implied that his embers disappeared the moment he finished the high school.
You are one of those comments that view the end negative, that I truly respect. While I enjoy the end, I see your point of view and us genuinely valid. And I am grateful that you took your time to break down your reasons for seeing the story the way you do, and give real reasons for it... Instead of it feeling like it's for the sake of hate, or focussing on things the story was never meant to do... Your opinions actually have story basis and I appreciate it.
You sound like you view anything that’s not a 3+ hour long video essay as mindless hate
@@idontcare9661 not my intention when I made that claim, I'm sorry if it came out that way. I've seen some valid criticism in shorter videos. But I've also seen alot of other ones that make me question if they were reading the same story. But not every short video criticizing Mha is mindless hate. Sorry if that's how my statement came off.
Because some us have something called a life or hobby @@idontcare9661
wonderful Video. I really felt this act really fissled out for me in the story department but by then I was long hooked and wanted to see it till the end.
The art got even better and kept me reading and It makes me really look up to Horikoshi and strive to be as skilled as him.
I choked up at that last "thank you guys, for everything"
You're fucking welcome Asa, you beautiful human being. It has been a fantastic journey enjoying the good times and suffering through the slop together. Can't wait to see what you do from here on out
Now Kagurabachi retrospective when? :^)
Save me AsarathaHS 4 hour video… save me
After watching this video, I realized that my mom was the real My Hero Academia all along.
That giant members name list felt more emotionally fulfilling to me than MHAs ending personally 😂
"...Shoji Luther King fumbles the bag" is crazy
With that said, I hope everyone enjoyed the My Hero Academia run time, despite it's low damps and high peaks it was an unforgettable experience.
C'est fini.
W video. W sonic music. W content creator.
Asa, I wanted to thank you for this series, as it, & several of your other videos, have been insanely helpful with the act 3 rewrite & I honestly don't think I'd have even half the ideas I've got if not for your videos analysing this series. I'll be sure to thank you, Oceaniz, & everyone else that has helped in the actual videos when they come out.
Is this a rewrite that is posted publicly or just a private for fun kinda thing?
If so I would like to read.
IT'S HEREEEEEEEE
Would it be weird to edit and add my thoughts as I go through lol?
- 5:33 hurts to hear that and while i was just a lurker i remember seeing those moments and getting weirded out by them. It's fine to have criticisms towards your fav series and it shouldn't be *one side vs the other.
8:45 it really could've given us some of the best Deku moments too... but stopped just before we got some actually intersection from him..
11:34 would've been so interesting! Especially with the Endeavor we have now who is trying to be good.
Like what emotions would he show? How would he deal with that and the public shaming him for his family abuse at the same time? With trying to track afo down as well! Just a lot that could be expanded upon that we didn't get...
14:35 valid. That's something i feel with a lot of the moments in act 3.
15:03 haha......
16:21 just such a weird thing. Seeing people excuse it while it would've been perfect for his plan.
Also knowing about shiggy's quirk and that theory thanks to the ending it MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE??
Even just to give to nomu's or anything would've been good especially since Chisaki literally can't use it anymore.
i encourage you to do so!
@@AsarathaHSYT nice! Also you and or whoever helped make the thumbnail did an amazing job!
Feels just as good as the other ones to look at!