How Does Wheel/Tire Size Change the Way a Hardtail Rides? 29 vs 27.5 vs 27.5+

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  • Опубликовано: 25 фев 2020
  • I get this question almost daily: Which tire size is best for a hardtail? Well, as usual, it depends. It depends on your riding style, goals, terrain, and type of tire. This video breaks down the pros and cons of each. Did you learn something valuable? If so, show your appreciation and support this channel by becoming a Patron today: / hardtailparty
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  • @hardtailparty
    @hardtailparty  4 года назад +36

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    • @mountainlessmtb9940
      @mountainlessmtb9940 4 года назад +5

      I love running bigger tires on my bike always have I don't care if they are slower because they monster truck over stuff🤘

    • @shyam4898
      @shyam4898 4 года назад +3

      I learned i need more wheels T_T

    • @gr8fulride
      @gr8fulride 4 года назад +3

      Well done. Thicker thread on 60 tpi. Solid new info. Great for when I stock up on tires. Thanks for the educational video.

    • @chawkins45ify
      @chawkins45ify 4 года назад +2

      I learned gangster rap makes the world go round, the bigger the round the faster, the smaller round is mo fun, plus size for that chunky monkey

    • @mguzikowski
      @mguzikowski 4 года назад +2

      I learned that....it depends lol Are you looking for funner or faster. Also depends of what you consider funner or faster on different types of trails.

  • @gumbi8989
    @gumbi8989 4 года назад +345

    Dude..... in a world cluttered with FS bikes, this channel is gold.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +16

      Thanks gunbi. I love the simplicity of a good hardtail.

    • @rustyshackleford9498
      @rustyshackleford9498 4 года назад +16

      Gotta echo this one. I love riding but I don't have the time or energy to get into the maintenance required of a squishy bike.
      I get so frustrated when I see a $5k fs at a trail center that is all flow.

    •  4 года назад

      Agreed, how could I have missed this one!

    • @ArmTheCreative
      @ArmTheCreative 4 года назад

      YES!!!!!

    • @StaggerLee68
      @StaggerLee68 4 года назад +3

      In a world cluttered with E"Mountainbikes", this channel is heaven!

  • @andresperez5387
    @andresperez5387 3 года назад +45

    This channel came out of nowhere for me. Best MTB channel on the internet in my opinion (helps that I love hardtails!) Straight up, honest facts, great tech content and no BS advice. Such a relief for those of us who are utterly fatigued by hackneyed phrase generators reviewing $10,000 bikes. Completely hooked!

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  3 года назад +3

      Thank you so much for the kind words. Intrt really hard to avoid click sit titles, marketing fluff, and empty videos.

  • @bennytn5518
    @bennytn5518 4 года назад +16

    Such a breeze of fresh air compared to the marketing BS of mainstream bike journalism. Very practical and useful info.

  • @KK-up3pq
    @KK-up3pq 2 года назад +2

    "we're all riding bikes, we're all having fun. We're not curing cancer here" earned my subscription

  • @fkncarl9302
    @fkncarl9302 4 года назад +127

    Anyone else still rock a 26” hardtail...?

    • @angel-leonhontiveros4816
      @angel-leonhontiveros4816 4 года назад +4

      I did a couple of years back when i got back into biking. Loads of fun lol a 26er middlechild would be nostalgia with modern love

    • @michaelbuckley5138
      @michaelbuckley5138 4 года назад +3

      26 Inch On One Scandal circa 2009 here running Maxxis 2.3 High Roller II's. Currently my only bike. Planning to build a new HT this year.

    • @martinpetricek239
      @martinpetricek239 4 года назад +1

      I have 26" xc hardtail rebuild by last years to trail bike. 2,3 DHF front and 2,25 nobby nic rear. Only thing on bike what is bugging me is too big seat tube.

    • @fkncarl9302
      @fkncarl9302 4 года назад +1

      @@andrisvelmeris I ride a DJ bike as my only bike.

    • @sd3457
      @sd3457 4 года назад

      Yup. Has about 75mm travel up front and it's single speed as well.

  • @krolsky4608
    @krolsky4608 2 года назад +1

    Your single video educated me more on the wheels than 25 other videos I watched. Thank you!

  • @Galactico42
    @Galactico42 4 года назад +3

    I'm dipping my toe back into mountain biking for the first time since the early 90s when I was a lad. Seriously, I've just been taking my rigid 26er out and calling it good. Your channel has been amazing in getting me up to speed on the tech advances as I navigate what I might even possibly want out of a new bike. Thanks, man.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +1

      Awesome. That's exactly why I'm making these videos. Glad they help.

  • @MyDadWasALifeguard
    @MyDadWasALifeguard 4 года назад +20

    I’m going back to a hardtail with my next bike..glad I found your channel

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +4

      I'm glad you found it too. Welcome to the party.

    • @SneakerKoenig
      @SneakerKoenig 4 года назад +4

      Me too... After 10 years fs Banshee i just ordered a Pole Taival Frame. As a full-time nurse and dad I need more time on the trail an less in the maintenance shed!

  • @iWatchization
    @iWatchization 4 года назад +6

    Best explanation of tpi I’ve heard. Love your stuff man!

  • @matrix311
    @matrix311 4 года назад +4

    I agree 100%. I have a Pivot Les hardtail that I built to have fun! Got the dropper post, short stem and both wheelsets 29 and 27.5+. I keep my 27.5+ wheels on my hardtail about 98% of the time. Its just an absolute blast here in Arizona! 27.5+ FTW!!!

  • @AlessandroBergomi
    @AlessandroBergomi 4 года назад +6

    That’s a lot of great info. I learned a lot today. Thanks Steve!

  • @doctajuice
    @doctajuice 4 года назад +10

    When I went from 2.3 to 2.5 on both ends I got about a 3000% increase in grip and like 40% more rolling resistance. Made a huge difference in the feel of the bike

  • @johnmartin227
    @johnmartin227 4 года назад +7

    I've been in love with my '16 Scott Scale 710 plus for some time. I have 29 and 27.5+ Stans wheel sets and sometimes run mullet. Everything I'm hearing here totally bears our with my experience. Just did a tight, twisty, rocky run on new 29 tires today and came home wanting to put my plusses back on...which I think I will.

    • @rossimessi1
      @rossimessi1 2 года назад

      thats a great frame. Can you fit 29 2.6 in this frame? What size are your 29ers? Thanks.

  • @benbranham8759
    @benbranham8759 4 года назад +25

    Yes finally someone that gets plus tires. Awesome video

  • @angel-leonhontiveros4816
    @angel-leonhontiveros4816 4 года назад +1

    Subbing to your channel has been the best. Affirms the fun on 2 wheels and just keep doing you!

  • @OtRatsaphong
    @OtRatsaphong 3 года назад +1

    Just discovered your channel. Great discussion!! I’m a beginner with a hard tail running 29 x 2.25. Love the speed of the 29”. Agree with you about just having fun with your friends 🤩

  • @mguzikowski
    @mguzikowski 4 года назад +1

    Great review for tires and wheel size, as my delema of choosing a bike comes to this specific decision. 27.5+ is a blast to ride for fun factor and it surprises me that it gets hate because after I rented one, it blew me away cause it was so fun.

  • @ArmTheCreative
    @ArmTheCreative 4 года назад +19

    27.5 PLUS for me!! Im a TECHY TRAIL guy and I absolutely love the PLUS cushioning

    • @wizaxed
      @wizaxed 3 года назад

      Yep, I just got a Kona Big Honzo and I am loving the 27.5 plus tires. Really helps soften the hard tail!!

    • @valeraanovsk1468
      @valeraanovsk1468 2 года назад

      How tall are you?

    • @ArmTheCreative
      @ArmTheCreative 2 года назад

      @@valeraanovsk1468 5 foot 7 inches

  • @TheNik604
    @TheNik604 4 года назад +5

    ...and I'm still on my 26 inch wheels ( Schwalbe Muddy Mary 2.5 DH EVO) on my beloved Scott Voltage LTD ...soon I'll have Voltage FR 27.5 . The 29 ' are an absurd for Freeride/DH but that's me of course ... thanks for the great videos. Long live the HT

  • @or2k910
    @or2k910 2 года назад

    I came across this channel a few weeks ago and cannot stop watching. There is so much valuable information shared here its worth watching every second of it. Looking to upgrade from my 2021 vitus sentier vrs to a new hardtail so I will be watching a lot more vids to make my decision. So far considering a ragley big al or a nukeproof scout. I might just go for the scout 275 pro because its in stock at the moment and available on 27.5 wheels. I think it would be a good mix of both worlds having my vitus sentier vrs 29r and a nukeproof scout 275. Anyways, keep up the good work hardtail bro lol

  • @breakandrun70
    @breakandrun70 3 года назад +1

    Great video Steve, Lots of information. I have not driven a 29er yet, I would like to try one. They
    seem to roll quite a bit faster than my 27.5 x2.6. I have taken them off and put 27.5 x 2.35 on.
    A lot less rolling resistance on the gravel trails. Be safe and party hard in the mountains.

  • @martinbergeron389
    @martinbergeron389 3 года назад +4

    Steve, I would love to see a video specifically about 2.8 or 3.0 tires. Everyone is moving away from those tires (for 29 x 2.5 or 2.6) for the reason that the sidewalls can be flimsy on plus tires. The problem that I see is : so few plus tires are offered in sturdier casings. For the back wheel I would be temped by Maxxis DoubleDown casings (60tpi), my understanding is 2.8 are offered in a few Maxxis tires (HiRoller ; Rekon or DHR) but for the back wheel I would look for fast rolling thread (Rekon+ or WTB Trail Boss 3.0) or something somewhat equivalent in other brands. But once looking at the actual offerings, there doesn't seem to be lots of offerings. For a front tire, I would go for a 2.8 or 3.0 somewhat lighter casing (Maxxis Exo or Exo+ 60 or 120tpi casings) but somewhat more agressive thread (DHR, DHF, Assegai).
    In my humble opinion, the reason why people turn away form plus tires is the puncture / flank problem. I would solve that with -stronger casing -fast rolling -harder compound tire in the back ; and - lighter casing -grippier blocks -medium compound.
    Any thoughts and suggestions or specific tires that fit those bills ? I think this is the heart of the battle for all those who would like to ride plus tires but hesitate because they are told the tires are flimsy and will pinch or squirm in turns.
    Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.

  • @cschuetta
    @cschuetta 4 года назад +11

    So ture. Even though I ride 29 now, Ive had so much fun on my 27.5plus hardtail. Sad they get a bad rep...awesome tire size.

  • @louvega8414
    @louvega8414 2 года назад

    My RM Growler with 27.5+ tyres (no, not electric) is the most fun bike I've ever owned. Love it! Good vid, thanks.

  • @boybusilakbikes
    @boybusilakbikes 2 года назад

    Another super informative post! Thank you for the awesome content!

  • @jennifersdustyktm4679
    @jennifersdustyktm4679 4 года назад

    Great video Steve, my Salsa Timberjack came with 27.5 X 2.8, but it will accommodate a 29" as well. I stayed with that setup for a year and this year I switched to 29X2.6" with Spank 30 mm rims, I like my new setup because it gave me a bit more clearance, thus less pedal strikes, rolling over rocks seems a little better, faster, yes but not a big deal for me, I'm tall so the big wheels are no problem. On the down side, the 29X2.6" tires are not as forgiving if you get off your line and they are harder to navigate tight turns but otherwise I think I prefer them over the 27.5 and I can still run 12 psi without issues.

  • @jemmgillies
    @jemmgillies 2 года назад

    Just found this video now, but this has been super helpful with some upcoming wheel size choices 🙏

  • @francmeister420
    @francmeister420 4 года назад +3

    i went from a 2.8 rear to a 2.6 and it made a huge difference in handling

  • @JanPippel
    @JanPippel 3 года назад

    29“ 2.5 front and 2.35 rear (with a cushcore installed) on a 30mm inner rim, not so rocky. Wider tires are skipping much faster here at fast cornering in the woods...
    More chunky, rocky terrain I would go with a plus tire in the rear to.
    Great explanation, many thanks for that!

  • @oscarwitvliet9139
    @oscarwitvliet9139 3 месяца назад

    This is a really good channel . I have tried so many wheels tires forks stems and other stuf . I have mullet my canyon stoic bike. It was a little long for me and low stack hight . now it feels great . Also shorter cranks and more backsweep steer .

  • @doomsmith
    @doomsmith 2 года назад

    I love your mentality about riding what you want, or what works best for you.
    I'm 6'6" and pretty heavy, so I have to ride something pretty big or else I feel super cramped, or look like I'm on a kids bike.
    So I have a L frame and 29" tires. But when I was younger I rode BMX and I got tall fast, so I have ridden some bikes that were insanely small for me and it worked out alright. My knees got totally mauled though over the years. So I gotta stick to the bigger stuff these days.

  • @RayHowrad
    @RayHowrad 4 года назад +2

    As always, great content! A cool follow up vid would be a rolling test like Vital MTB, bus on a slightly rough trail, not street. You could take the exact same line and compare time/distance. That’d be interesting!

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +1

      That's an excellent idea. Thanks for the suggestion. I may have to try that one of these days.

  • @cjones7854
    @cjones7854 2 года назад

    Very interesting video. I've been running 27.5x2.4 on my hardtail and I'm about to try 2.8! I personally use a use a tougher casing for bike packing and a more supple one for short fun rides.

  • @brianyates2978
    @brianyates2978 4 года назад +2

    Thread count likes sheets 😂 Learn something new every day, thanks man!

  • @geraldhenrickson7472
    @geraldhenrickson7472 Год назад +1

    When I was bike shopping 5 years ago...the bike shop was very much anti-27.5. I was actually looking for another 26'r. I bought a 29'r for its components but am still riding it nearly everyday. I am looking for a 27.5 at present. Maybe a plus bike. I do more technical that fast riding. Thanks for the video. Subbed.

  • @n22pdf
    @n22pdf 3 года назад

    Awesome channel :) many thanks for putting these vids together.. trying to decide between cotic and a stanton hmm decisions

  • @teoandrew5620
    @teoandrew5620 4 года назад

    Thanks for this video (and many others if yours!)
    Im recently getting back into trail riding and looking to replace my '98 RMB Fusion but no one has anything to test these days. I was stuck on wanting a 29" since im 6'3 and seemed like it was a good choice for my style but I guess I will give the 27.5+ a closer look? So much choice these days and thanks for the education!

  • @Potz4pizza
    @Potz4pizza 4 года назад +1

    Really great talk - Succinctly reviewed what took me weeks of google research to learn and guess at.

  • @BrianVaughn
    @BrianVaughn 4 года назад +1

    This my exact opinion on these wheel sizes as well. I'm a bit larger than you but have found I prefer wider tires on my bike. My trails are not enduro and I'm not an XC race guy so I prefer the mid-plus setup of 2.6 tires on 27.5 rims. This is my fun setup and that's more important to me. I have been trying cushcore with a 2.8 tire in the rear this winter and have found that setup help with the 120tpi Rekon. I'm riding on snow at a low PSI so the cushcore helps that rear from getting too squirmy.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад

      I love cushcore, especially in a plus tire. I'll be doing a video about cushcore soon.

  • @chameleonpogono
    @chameleonpogono 4 года назад

    Like you said, depends. Every person is different. I remember riding 26" on my rigid and hardtails.
    I know they are not hardtails, but I had my GPS data going when I demo rode an HD4 and Ripmo. I had a higher top speed on the Ripmo, but higher average speed on the HD4. I thought that was fun data. Just my difference between a 29rr and a 27.5.

  • @TheBlocGod
    @TheBlocGod 4 года назад

    Hey dude just found your channel and you've locked me in on my choice of going for a plus size 27.5 as my first decent bike.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад

      Excellent choice. My other piece of advice is to avoid a bike with a quick release rear axle. You want to make sure it has a 12mm thru axle

  • @Vikturus2k6
    @Vikturus2k6 3 года назад

    I’m a 6’7” rider. Around 220lbs dry. I’m going to be building a custom HT, still on the fence about 27.5+ vs 29x2.5 vs 29+. Currently on 27.5+, works great but feels a bit smaller. Frame will do all.

  • @giuseppes1943
    @giuseppes1943 4 года назад +1

    Well...i went 29" 2.6 front and 27.5+ 2.8 rear...and it works perfect for almost everything...I use 27.5+ front too just for very narrow trails with a lot of switch-backs...otherwise mullet configuration works great!

  • @MrBig617
    @MrBig617 4 года назад

    I have an aluminum chameleon plus on the way. I haven't had a hardtail in almost 10 years, and I've never tried plus tires before. I'm excited for the experience!

  • @devin4560
    @devin4560 4 года назад +2

    "we're non curing cancer here" - Love that!! What about weight difference between each wheel/tire?

  • @Oper8or
    @Oper8or 3 года назад

    I just got my bike. I ordered it with 27.5+ tires and they are a LOT bigger than I expected. They are cushy as heck though. I just wasnt expecting a tire that wide and big.

  • @jbor4663
    @jbor4663 3 года назад +1

    Very well explained and great Video! It helps me to keep my 27.5 plus tires hahaha 🤣 Thank you brother! God bless

  • @sbsb4995
    @sbsb4995 2 года назад +2

    Watching this video made me wanna look for a 26" MTB. I miss it so much.

  • @abel2cycle989
    @abel2cycle989 4 года назад +1

    Great video man, the tpi, I never thought about. I'm still shopping for tires lol. I just got some 2.4 wt, but they're too wide for my rims, so sending them back and back to the drawing board. So far this is the hottest video of the week in my opinion. I can geek out on this video and its simple. Thanks for your help man😎🤙

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching. Glad you learned something. I try to make complex topics simple to understand. There's a lot of marketing mumbo jumbo in the mtb world, and it's only confusing people.

    • @magnumllama400
      @magnumllama400 3 года назад

      What's tpi?

    • @abel2cycle989
      @abel2cycle989 3 года назад +1

      @@magnumllama400 threads per inch

  • @MangoJim90
    @MangoJim90 4 года назад +2

    After 11 years of trying different wheel sizes and widths on my hardtails I feel like every size and width is OK; Its a matter of getting used to it.
    Except going downhill really fast or road racing =)

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +2

      Agreed. The riding experience is more similar than different between these.

  • @cokebottles6919
    @cokebottles6919 2 года назад +2

    I loved the stability of my 27.5 plus bike, it helped me learn and had sooo much grip. My new 29 hard tail is significantly faster, lighter (10lb lighter), and suits the type of riding I do much better. But I do miss the soft glide of the plus and its crazy grip. I wish I had both.

    • @eniojurko
      @eniojurko 7 месяцев назад

      Well it is an easy fix, just get one bike more, with that specific wheel size! Cant have too many bikes, they can always double as a backup..

  • @enzoluciano1990
    @enzoluciano1990 4 года назад +1

    I have a xc bike 27.5x2.20 and i love it. Nice video greatings from Argentina!!

  • @thunderdogproductions
    @thunderdogproductions 4 года назад +1

    i love my fat bike wheels, its a 26 and i got 4.8" on there, but I am really excited to get a new wheelset that is either a 27.5 plus or even a 29 plus, as my bike will fit any and all of those. thanks for the video!

    • @d.r.penkert1429
      @d.r.penkert1429 2 года назад

      Have a Specialized Fatboy with 4.5 tires. What did you go with 27.5 or 29+? Trying to decide 40mm or 50mm width. Where did you get your wheels?

  • @slopesripper
    @slopesripper 3 года назад

    Greatly informative video!

  • @Rafael-vu2xn
    @Rafael-vu2xn Год назад

    I'm getting back in to biking and I'm looking something like Kona unit single speed to commute, bikebacking and cruise around mostly gravel and little trail. And then I remember how I used to ride a 26" bike with slicks, wider on front and just throwing 30 yard skids sideways blasting trough the city, the bike did gravel and paved so well and was nimble and fast and 29" just don't have the same feeling. Sure where and how I want to drive these days have changed but the fun factor with smaller set's is kinda hard to ignore.

  • @Philoniousmonk
    @Philoniousmonk 3 года назад

    My Stanton Ti Switchback (hardtail) in 27.5 is the bees knees...maxxis DHF wide trail 2.6 (f/b)...favorite ride and I have a full on Yeti DH and a Titus double squish. I’d take my Stanton as my one quiver every time.

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker 4 года назад +3

    Perfect analysis of 29 v/s 27.5 with various tire choices. I absolutely go wider tire in front, not just tire but also a wider rim. I have 29” on my hardtail’s now. My single speed is fully rigid and I’ve been able to go i35 rims and 2.5” tires and of course my fork can handle i40 with 2.8-3” tires. Wider rims are critical for high volume tires with lower pressure. I haven’t tried 27.5 plus wheels yet but my Esker Hayduke has super wide spacing and can easily fit a 27.5 plus, so my plan is to build up a super wide rim set for that hardtail with i40-i45 rims and 2.8-3” tires first. Then on my SS 37.5 plus I’ll go with and i40 and 2.6-2.8” combo. The crazy thing is my gravel bike now has 700c so I’ll eventually put a 650b with i27-i30 rims and nice high volume gravel tires.
    One thing that you didn’t cover was the tire bead and rim bead channel interface, and similar but different topic. In my experience, a few rim companies do a great job of making your tire “bead lock” and that makes the tire handle various air pressure and remain sealed better. This is especially true for my gravel bike that gets inflated to 60psi on road then 30psi on dirt. But also help my i40 rims with 3” tires get deflated to 10psi.
    Anyway thanks for the video, I can’t wait to try my 27.5 plus shoes on my bikes, I’m totally about having fun in the mountains and we all know that fat tires= fun!

  • @jeffneisler1405
    @jeffneisler1405 4 года назад +6

    Steve - Very informative & tpi info. was new to me & I will definitely take that info. into considering when buying my next tire. My current tire size on my Chromag Wideangle hardtail is 27.5 x 2.6 on both front & rear. 2.6 is probably max size that will work on rear of my bike. Thinking I might try 2.5 in rear for my next tire for a little more mud clearance. Loving this set up and suits my preferred riding style of FUN ....being outdoors trying to pick my way through a rocky rooty technical section of trail at probably close to a snails pace : )

  • @blainewalker713
    @blainewalker713 3 года назад

    Great channel. Something you didn’t touch on. I’ve got a 2019 chameleon that’s 27.5 + that I’ve been trail riding with on nice chunky trails and it’s fantastic. I’m converting to SS with a new wheel set and 142 hubs for fun urban riding and pump track/jump days. Am I going 29 or sticking with 27.5 and maybe 2.6 instead of the 2.8? Keep putting out great content!

  • @unplannedadventure2289
    @unplannedadventure2289 4 года назад +1

    I'm a new Ryder I just purchased 27.5+ hardtail.

  • @loganlauffenburger2613
    @loganlauffenburger2613 4 года назад

    Just got my 2020 roscoe 7 27.5 plus is so much fun and cushioning

  • @Black_Onyx
    @Black_Onyx 4 года назад

    This video helped me a lot to make the decision on which wheel size to chose on the Nuke Scout 275 and 290. Thanks !!!

    • @YavorM-Yash
      @YavorM-Yash 4 года назад

      275 with 2.6 here. 🙂

    • @dmtb4455
      @dmtb4455 3 года назад

      Hey Pascal, which do you have, the 290 or 275? Can you get a 29" wheel on the 275? I have the option of a 275 right now, or a 29er in a few weeks. Struggling to make a decision...

  • @elee325
    @elee325 3 года назад

    Great informative video. Thx,

  • @patricemehandzhiev8089
    @patricemehandzhiev8089 4 года назад +4

    6’3 and 27.5 for life

  • @toooldfortwowheels2048
    @toooldfortwowheels2048 4 года назад +1

    WTB scraper with a 45mm internal width on Rekon+ tyres 👌🏻

  • @chrisbourguet657
    @chrisbourguet657 4 года назад +10

    27.5x2.8 all day, everyday on my Timberjack. Sold my 29er wheelset.

    • @kmazzanti
      @kmazzanti 3 года назад

      Chris Bourguet YES, Timberjack!! Bought a 27.5+ Timberjack because of this channel, could not be happier!! THANKS HTP!!!

    • @bulkfiction7687
      @bulkfiction7687 3 года назад

      2.8 both in the front and back?

  • @chilanguitaflores9984
    @chilanguitaflores9984 4 года назад

    great informative videos!!! what type of tires do you prefer??? or when its that video coming??? i bet you will do a better in dep real opinion about tires that plenty of tire reviewers out there!!! hardtail sooo much more fun....

  • @Kendubious
    @Kendubious 3 года назад

    Great info. I live in Southern Utah but our trails do not have a lot of slick rock so I find the 27.5 great for the soft soils/sand we have. But I find after you transition to rock these big tires things can get a little too bouncy on the hard stuff especially at slower speeds. Do you have this issue? Am I running too high of pressure? should I be trying a tire insert? Also do you know a good 3 inch or 2.8 tire in 27.5 that is actually available right now? Thanks for the great info.

  • @micahwilliams6554
    @micahwilliams6554 4 года назад

    Jus picked up 2020 trek Roscoe 7
    27.5 plus size tire! So far so good, I like the feel of the plus

  • @danfresca8033
    @danfresca8033 Год назад

    29 rides so smooth. I’d choose it every time. Currently running 2.3 tyre tubeless and they’re very comfortable. I don’t think I’ll go wider cause it’s a good all rounder imo if paired with a tyre that’s not too draggy, like an xr3 or similar. I’m 5ft4 so a short rider too.

  • @slapsoiladventures6246
    @slapsoiladventures6246 3 года назад

    Hi great video!
    I have a question, i currently have wtb vigilante 27.5 x 2.3 with 40mm rim width. i want to change to more bigger tire, should i get 2.6 or 2.8? What's their pros and cons? And whats more playful and enjoyable?

  • @ianbauer4703
    @ianbauer4703 2 года назад

    Video I've been looking for, thanks! How does a 29" wheel affect a rider on an aluminum bike versus a steel mtb?

  • @TNW84
    @TNW84 4 года назад +6

    29 3.0 front and rear

  • @orriechaffin2850
    @orriechaffin2850 3 года назад

    Very good video. I have a trek stache. I’m thinking about going with a 2.8 in front and a 2.6 in back. Any thoughts from any one?

  • @fra93ilgrande
    @fra93ilgrande 11 месяцев назад

    I finally switched to a 29er after 16 years with a 26er, all I can say is 29er forever 💪🏻😎🔝 (for xc) specially since I still had very narrow Id rims before, only 17 and 2.2 tires, now I've 30 id wheels with 2.4 semi slick tires (Pirelli RC)

  • @GokkunGuru
    @GokkunGuru 2 года назад

    So I got a 2005 Devinci running 26 x 2.25 and a 2021 Specialized running 29 x 2.25. I can certainly confirm the smaller wheel bike is more nimble and easier to handle and turn. However the bigger wheel bike is faster on the straightaway.

  • @coevad3961
    @coevad3961 2 года назад

    Super good info

  • @sanjinred
    @sanjinred 4 года назад +1

    Thing I'm gonna try, 29 2.6 in the front, 27.5 plus in the back!

  • @randallcastillo8576
    @randallcastillo8576 4 года назад

    Really like this channel !!!!

  • @scottmorton21
    @scottmorton21 4 года назад

    Great video, as always! Just like the frame, you really need to try them yourself on your trails to decide which are best for you.
    Here's a question for you... What's your thoughts on having to keep buying different width tires, one for the front and one for the back. Wouldn't it just be easier to always use the same tire size front and back. That way when the back wears out, you can move the front to the back to finish wearing it out and you can wait a while longer before buying a new rear tire. Is having the slightly wider front really that big of a difference?

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +4

      That would definitely be easier and cheaper to just swap the front tire to the rear. I've done that before. But I've come to find that I typically prefer different treads front and rear, so I don't do that often. On 2.3-2.5 tiresx I definitely prefer a wider front tire. Once you get above 2.5, I run them pretty close to even width. The only tire I like on both front and rear is the dhr2

  • @sepultubob
    @sepultubob 9 месяцев назад

    I would have liked a 27.5+ but you can't find any in our LBS in France !! I've just ordered a Orbea Laufey, I'm scared due to wheels size I'm gonna loose the fun a have throwing my old 26" bike around in the woods. I hope that the modern confort and downhill pleasure will be there !

  • @E2tge
    @E2tge Год назад

    GREAT REVIEW

  • @kaiserdd6623
    @kaiserdd6623 3 года назад

    What's your thoughts about running a 27.5" front wheel with a 2.8 tire and a 27.5" back wheel with a 2.6" tire? I have 40 mm rims. Thinking I would get a great grip on the front and a bit faster on the rear. I am in the midwest btw, very different from Sedona! Thank you so much!

  • @dtheopha
    @dtheopha 4 года назад

    great info. The hate on 2.8 is so stupid. People like 2.6 instead of 2.8 simply because it isn't called a plus tire. I can carve my 2.8's just the same. I'm running the same tire in 27.5 and 29 and if I was blindfolded, I couldn't tell you which one I just crashed on : )

  • @69sound81
    @69sound81 Год назад

    Okay, so, I am about to buy a new Giant Fathom 29. In my mind, the obvious setup is to go 27.5 x 2.8 in the rear and leave the 29x2.5 front that comes already there. I'm not sure if it is gona be what I'm thinking, but in my mind, the plus tire in the back will make it softer (like a soft tail or something like that) and running the plus size will compensate a bit the diameter difference.
    I'm also gonna use my bike as a commuter (yeah, I'm that guy that uses one bike for everything) so I plan to get a cheap set of 29" wheels with a narrow 27 or 25mm inner space to fit some chubby slicks like the WTB thickslick tires for everyday and just build them exactly the same (same cassete, same disc, same boost axle).
    Any thoughts people? I ride a very wide variety of terrains... commuting in the city, gravel, XC, Trail, dirt jump bike parks and some ocassional light enduro trails. I don't compete anymore, I used to compete XC as a child 18 years ago and my current bike is the one I used back then. A Norco Mountaineer 26er hardtail with 100mm front travel, V-brakes, Maxxis Icon tires (great, but lack grip), 67 degree headtube angle and modern parts I've been updating as the years go by (currently a 1x10 deore group with an 11-46 cassete is the biggest I could go due to the wheel size).

  • @dennismiller1602
    @dennismiller1602 4 года назад +4

    Great info Steve! Been thinking about trying 27.5x3"out back on my Trek Stache with the 29x3" up front. I'm 5'6" so the reach on my medium frame is great but a little short on ground contact(;

  • @mellissanash7517
    @mellissanash7517 4 года назад

    Have you tried 29+? I just bought my first rigid 27.5+ bike & a small part of me has been thinking 29x2.6(fork maxes at 3.0) front & 2.35 back(frames max), but your videos have me thinking 27.5+ is where it's at. Sadly frame maxes at 2.9 according to the manufactures site & not 3.0 oddly. I already have a 29x2.2 gravel bike & kind of want try it on my plus bike just to compare, but sadly those are QR rims. Thank you for all the plus stuff it quelling any need try regular 29.

  • @L4J20
    @L4J20 4 года назад +3

    I love 27.5 x 2.6 for me 🤘

  • @John.M264
    @John.M264 4 года назад

    Okay a week after watching the video I ordered up the DHR 2 for the rear 60 TPI and a dhf 120 TPI for the front both in 2.8 with and I have a 40 mm wide rim internal hopefully they're better than these Nobby nics because they're nothing but problems I'm on my fifth flat already and I've only had the bike a couple of weeks thanks for the info hopefully these tires work out well for me

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +1

      Nobby nics are one of my least favorite tires for where I ride. Hopefully your new maxxis dhr and dhf do the trick for you.

  • @ShoneDaddy
    @ShoneDaddy 4 года назад

    Right now I’m on 27.5x2.6 with a cushcore in the back. I kinda wanna try 2.5s next.

  • @jsniderhan
    @jsniderhan 4 года назад

    First real MTB, running plus tires as well Scwalbe nobby nic 3.0 from and rocket Ron 2.8 back.

  • @benyujr.6545
    @benyujr.6545 3 года назад

    Currently on a 29x2.25, loving it but missing the fun of 29x3.0.

  • @ericjonpo
    @ericjonpo 3 года назад

    PLUS TIRES ALL THE WAY! Thanks for validating my choice. Also not a tall dude here.

  • @TrailBreaker
    @TrailBreaker 4 года назад

    Yeah, 27.5+ was all the rage a few years ago but haven’t really caught on. Not sure why😐

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад +1

      It's not "enduro" enough. Or maybe it's because plus tires were awful when they first came out, and all the reviews hated them, and nobody gave them a second chance.

  • @mountaingoat8788
    @mountaingoat8788 4 года назад

    My Frame only fits up to 2.40 on 27.5 I Know id love 27.5+ but id need a new frame! and this guys is almost a bum haha so I am Thankful I have a bike at all.. :) i do need to invest in some crush cores though. any How enjoyed the video man! dig your chill Vibe Brother..

  • @eclecticaro
    @eclecticaro 2 года назад

    Hello. What suspension forks are best to use with 27.5+" and 29" boost wheels. Should I buy 27.5+" forks, 29", or 29+" forks to be on a safe side with tyre clearance? I want to run 27.5"x3.0" and 29"x2.4" tyres on my bike and looking to get Rockshox Pike..just don't know what size to get. Many thanks for any help:)

  • @chrislim1043
    @chrislim1043 2 года назад

    Hi i have a 2021 commencal ht meta am. It currently have a highroller 27.5x2.8 front and rekon + 27.5x2.8 rear. Any recommendations what tires are good?

  • @edritchie270
    @edritchie270 4 года назад

    Great info once again. What are your thoughts on the salsa timberjack?

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  4 года назад

      I haven't ridden the 2020 one yet. I've been trying to get ahold of one for review, but salsa hasn't been responding.

  • @philthyphil3324
    @philthyphil3324 Месяц назад

    I recently picked a trek x caliber. At first i was loving the 29" wheels it rode over things easier than my 26, but its way harder to corner, and its much harder for me to get the front end up. Not sure if thats mostly the geo of this bike. But i find myself riding the old 26er more often and enjoying it more that the 29er.