This is the period of FF I’m most unfamiliar with but seeing that art style brings me back to the 50 cent bins back in the day. They were always full of Marvel Two-In-Ones and 70s FF.
Jeezus, when will Arkon just accept that his world is hopeless? Give it up as a bad job, pack his people into spaceships, and go out into the universe sightseeing? This period in FF history is characterized by these badly plotted and executed stories… harebrained is the word I’d use. They were like the old Jack Kirby and Stan Lee issues (quirky, maybe off-the-wall creative, potentially fun), but produced by a creative team who didn’t know how to approach that less serious style.
Question - have you liked any FF after Lee/Kirby? Heck, even Lee/Kirby, you sound a bit down on it there. I promise a hearty laugh if you say the Doug Moench and Bill Sienkiewicz run was the gold standard.
@ I like a lot of the post Kirby issues. They were simplistically written but lacked the wild imagination that filled that particular void in the old stories, that’s my complaint. They could still be entertaining. I love the character Gabriel, the Annihilus Revealed 2 parter is great, and Gideon/Dragon Man worked for me (maybe because of the art). But at the 145 mark the issues became… slippery in terms of entertainment value for me. Like the writers didn’t have a firm grasp of what was happening or where the stories were going.
Bill Mantlo wrote a couple of fill-ins between Wolfman and Moench. I mainly remember the two-parter with Spider-Man where Electro joined the Frightful Four and he dressed up as Human Torch and Trapster dressed up as Spider-Man. Spectacular Spider-Man #41 (Part 1) and Fantastic Four #218 (Part 2), I believe. You might get some fun action out of it - Mike Zeck and John Byrne art, so nothing as bland as Buckler.
FF 145-170 were mostly weakly written (how do you fail with the Silver Surfer and Dr. Doom?). Derivative everything… and pale imitations at that. Plots for Saturday morning cartoons… that’s all these issues lack: blaring, hyperbolic music and over the top voice acting.
Gerry Conway was much worse than Roy Thomas. Roy had plots you'd go into think you'd like but being a bit disappointed. Gerry Conway had Mahkizmo and Sue Storm leaving to marry Namor.
This is the period of FF I’m most unfamiliar with but seeing that art style brings me back to the 50 cent bins back in the day. They were always full of Marvel Two-In-Ones and 70s FF.
Everyone remembers the Perez issues but not the 5 Buckler ones inbetween each Perez one.
Jeezus, when will Arkon just accept that his world is hopeless? Give it up as a bad job, pack his people into spaceships, and go out into the universe sightseeing? This period in FF history is characterized by these badly plotted and executed stories… harebrained is the word I’d use. They were like the old Jack Kirby and Stan Lee issues (quirky, maybe off-the-wall creative, potentially fun), but produced by a creative team who didn’t know how to approach that less serious style.
Question - have you liked any FF after Lee/Kirby? Heck, even Lee/Kirby, you sound a bit down on it there. I promise a hearty laugh if you say the Doug Moench and Bill Sienkiewicz run was the gold standard.
@ I like a lot of the post Kirby issues. They were simplistically written but lacked the wild imagination that filled that particular void in the old stories, that’s my complaint. They could still be entertaining. I love the character Gabriel, the Annihilus Revealed 2 parter is great, and Gideon/Dragon Man worked for me (maybe because of the art). But at the 145 mark the issues became… slippery in terms of entertainment value for me. Like the writers didn’t have a firm grasp of what was happening or where the stories were going.
Bill Mantlo wrote a couple of fill-ins between Wolfman and Moench. I mainly remember the two-parter with Spider-Man where Electro joined the Frightful Four and he dressed up as Human Torch and Trapster dressed up as Spider-Man. Spectacular Spider-Man #41 (Part 1) and Fantastic Four #218 (Part 2), I believe. You might get some fun action out of it - Mike Zeck and John Byrne art, so nothing as bland as Buckler.
FF 145-170 were mostly weakly written (how do you fail with the Silver Surfer and Dr. Doom?). Derivative everything… and pale imitations at that. Plots for Saturday morning cartoons… that’s all these issues lack: blaring, hyperbolic music and over the top voice acting.
Gerry Conway was much worse than Roy Thomas. Roy had plots you'd go into think you'd like but being a bit disappointed. Gerry Conway had Mahkizmo and Sue Storm leaving to marry Namor.