@@nelsonrodriguez5451 if you're collecting Black Panther and need that issue maybe twenty dollars/pounds? The idea anyone would pay several hundred is hilarious.
so there was this period in my life when i kept attracting the wrong people, wrong opportunities, everything just felt…off. i couldn’t figure out why it kept happening. then one day, a friend mentioned a book called Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, saying it helped them see the patterns they didn’t even realize they had. i decided to give it a read, and wow, it opened my eyes to how much my own energy was shaping my life. seriously, this book is something else.
Obviously your pricing i s out of whack. The ONLY reason a book won't sell is you are asking too much: - Jungle Action #6 - 6.5 eBay auction = $80, Fixed price = $100 - Your 5.0 at $100 is way out. - FF #94 - 7.0 eBay auction = $76 - DC Comics Presents = 9.0 eBay auction = $150. You are asking $250 Ok, I had to stop watching. Your whining and refusal to actually look at true market value and blaming sellers is getting annoying. You are obviously cherry picking your prices taking the highest Fixed price and think you should get that. That isn't how it works. Stop slabbing books that aren't worth it. This isn't Field of Dreams where "If you slab it he will come." ANYTHING is worth what people are willing to pay. You are charging too much. Pure and simple.
Because you're basing your price based on some arbitrary amount printed in a magazine instead of what it's worth to actual buyers. I've been collecting comics for 45 years. Slabbing is the worst scam I've seen in the hobby; it can't go away soon enough.
Slabbing is not a scam - since most dealers over grade their comics when they try to sell them and probably aren't even aware of restoration being done on their comic ( or if they ARE aware of it they won't tell you) - for those 2 reasons slabbing is ESSENTIAL when buying an expensive old comic book !
Not that people are against slabs - just almost no demand for 5.0 bronze age books . If it's a Hulk 181 or ASM129 - fine. Vast majority of bronze - it needs to be high grade (and people choosier in a buyers market). Same as trying to sell a 9.0 or even 9.2 / 9.4 modern. No interest unless 9.8. 9.6 even touch and go.
Agreed. The old advertisements are so awesome. Sometimes I like to flip through a book just for that nostalgia aspect. Not the mention the smell of the paper. Ah, heaven🤩😍
Slabs have ruined prices. The only people that want slabs are not really collectors. Collectors want to flip through books and sometimes even read them.
I happen to like CGC slabs, but I don't resell comics, if I get something graded its because I like the book in the slab not because of the added value
I've lowered grades on literally hundreds of books in my life by handling them. I just sent in a bunch of my first "gets" because I can now read them online. I saw people were buying Non-Fungible Tokens of comics and realized I'm going to set my sights on Fungible Tokens. Therefore, I've begun accumulating Golden Age comics and I'm going to liquidate all the dollar bin junkers I've accumulated. They are cool to read. I will probably give a bunch away and dump most of them on whatnot over this next year. I won't be selling any of my PC slabs I just submitted to CBCS.
@@davidmckinley5343 Agreed. This side hustle is only for speculators, not real comic lovers. We went through this in the 90s, and it almost tanked the industry. This is a large part of why we may be seeing the end of floppy issues permanently. 1) You have to add the significant grading and shipping cost to recoup your third party fees, and 2) you increase scarcity, because now there's yet another issue that can't be read and enjoyed because it's sealed in plastic.
It's pretty simple, people have started to realize the slabbed books are not worth the overinflated prices sellers are asking for them. You crack them bad boys out and sell them at the recent sold prices (last 30 days) and they will sell. The only reason you got those books graded was to get more money for them and the market finally caved in.
If you have a $5000 book, and you want it more liquid so a 3rd party arbitrator decides the grade, and everyone transacts on thei ruling, then its probably fine to pay $100 for that. Particularly if you are in the book for cheap. If you have a low grade $20 book, why would you ever pay $30-$40 for a slab and hope to get $50-$60 for it. Its crazy. You are better offering up the book ungraded for $20, and some newbie will come along thinking it is a better grade than it is, and gladly pay you the $20. Not as much risk in play on a $20 book vs a $5000 book, so why pay for the grade "insurance" (what slabbing sort of is) on low risk transactions? That said, I do have $20 books slabbed, and paid extra for it. Not so much because I care about the grade, but because I display them alongside $5000 slabbed books. I am paying $30 for the asthetics, like buying a fancy picture frame. You will never get your money back, but it is an investment in feeling good at the way it looks. That's the only return to expect.
@@wlnorris75 That's not the problem. People get books slabbed and try to sell them at overinflated prices. If the book is worth $5k and you pay $100 to slab it, it's not suddenly worth $7500. People who get books slabbed don't treat it as insurance, they treat it like adding a multiplier to the value. Collectors aren't willing to pay the multiplied price any more. It's that simple.
You can always crack them out. People aren't slabbing books for old-school collectors. They are slabbing books for verification before sale. Nothing a rich dude hates more than some unethical liar stealing their money.
To many scandals with cgc, employees stealing and replacing books, the reslab scandal, you can't even be sure if the book you sent in is the one you got back in the slab. Not trustworthy.
And yet, criticizing them or pointing this out makes you a target for anger in certain circles. The simping for CGC by influencers and the like is outstanding.
Yeah, I never got into the whole slab thing.. always saw it as a gimmick. I have nearly 6000 books... zero slabs. We are in the aftermath of the slabbed book bubble burst. My raw books held there value just fine the last few years.
@@berardoferrari doss reminds me of the boomer down the street telling the young kid if he works real hard he can buy his 1.2 million dollar home that was bought for $35k 40 years ago. If doss could imagine starting from scratch right now, he would probably see things differently.
$5 to ship a raw book is not as common as you think. Most sellers have shipping cost at $6-9. USPS Ground advantage is a minimum $6-7 to ship comic books.
@@allisknu11 You can get around that if you sell enough. You can get a Bound Printed Material permit for free now (used to be $200 a year). Pricing then is less than media mail. The only downside is places like E-Bay or Paypal can't print BPM labels. You will need a Pitney Bowes or similar account (so you need to sell enough to justify that expense). Which is why I've always had a bone to pick with media mail. If I get a FREE permit, I can ship for LESS than media mail. So why does the USPS have a stick up their butt about someone paying MORE than BPM shipping a comic by media mail. The same box going through the same mail system, and someone trying to pay MORE than the cheapest price. What's the problem? There is absolutely zero logic there...
Only thing I would say is to keep patient and wait for the market to pick up again when the economy is better. Lots of people are going with cheaper alternatives when it comes to comics. That's why I very quickly once I got into the hobby switched from individual issues to trades. Then I learned about the Omnibuses and haven't looked back since. For me it works better to have the whole run in one book then hunting individual issues. Later when I develop a love for a character, I may eventually pick up some slabs to display.
I started buying 8.5 and 9.0 Uncanny X-Men Keys this past year because I noticed the raw copies were selling for way more than the graded ones for similar looking books. I cracked them all out and got them signed by Chris Claremont and now have a great little X-Men collection for a fraction of the price.
I have 3 slabs total, punisher #1, amazing Spider-Man with Larsen art and a gift slab Thor with a Hildebrandt cover, all my other comics are "raw". Unless you discount those slabs to sell, or trade them to get the silver age books you're looking for, it sounds like a tough sell. The only other thing you can do is sit on them & wait it out. Time is kinder to the value of collectibles.
Newsstands DO matter, but only if they're 9.8s, and keys. Second appearances and first cover appearances just don't hit the mark after the hype settles; people usually just buy those when the ACTUAL keys get too pricey. Also, the problem with slabs on cheaper books($500 or less), is that buyers are hoping a seller doesn't know what he has, so they can convince them their higher grade book is in lower condition than it is. A lot of people think they can stick almost any book in a press and automatically jump the grade up 2+ points.
I refuse to pay a premium for a comic I can't read. I'm glad to see that collectors are turning away from the slabs. Slabbing made sense for Card collectors, because you could still read the entire card without removing the slab. In comics, it only caters to speculators. True comics fans know how to read their cherished issues WITHOUT doing futrher damage. Every time the Comics Industry has catered to speculators instead of readers, it has come back to bite the industry in its ass.
Sticky......anything will sell if it's priced right. The whole slab-n-flip fad is over and was a mistake to begin with. If you bought and slabbed in the 2021-22 time frame, you're going to take a loss. It's always easy to look back and say woulda-coulda-shoulda. You have to just get on with your collecting life. Keep the books and enjoy them or just suck up the loss if you want the funds for something else.
Slabs used to be the best way to protect older books, like golden age in particular. There are better bags on the market now and I think people just grade anything and everything, and even publishers sell new comics slabbed. It's just overdone at this point.
Obviously does not know the market. 2024 13 $179 $92 Sales for this year. 2023 16 $225 $130 On Dc comics presents. 9.0 The last time that book broke 200 was in November of 2023 and your asking 250??? OMG! It's a $150 tops right now. You bought the FOMO and now you pay the price.
The balls of the collectors to spend $50-$100 on a raw comic just to handle it like a $3.99 book fresh off the rack. Not every book needs the slabbed but certainly every book shouldn’t be raw, there’s a middle ground.
sure... but why spend money to send it to Florida where some meth head Florida man is gonna swap your book out when you can just get a top loader..i read my shit.. they aren't cards to be graded and never opened.
@@KorribanHideout nope. there's no middle ground. CGC is money in the pocket of Jay Z and that's is like giving money to Hitler or Chuck Manson. And slabs are just non sense. You don't slab comic books if you love them. You don't slab a Ferrari or slab your wife or husband or children. You don't slab a painting or a sculpture. It's just insanity this slabbing scam. Only truly evil people slab comic books.
Okay, okay, they have no views. Which platform are you on? This vital piece of information would be really useful to others looking to unload books as well as the many loyal viewers who might be interested in the fire sale.
Collect what you love and do not want to sell. Sell if you need to, or if the profit is so significant, it eclipses your desire to keep it. If people are buying $1000+ books to sell for a profit, they need to sell it fast. No emotions. Or they're better off investing it in stocks, crypto, or hard assets. Also, sell when the trailer drops. Not when the show/movie comes out. It's psychological. People want a 9.8 for moderns, or a high grade raw. Anything in the middle, it will depend on the era of the book and what people are willing to settle with, given the price is right. People are selling into a market of very few people that can afford to buy collectible comics, let alone new comic books on NCBD.
Crack those cases man! Speaking solely for myself, I have not nor will I invest any money on slabs. I like to read them and if preservation is the goal… comic capsules has a great product!
" Failed Spec" you and all the other RUclipsrs along with the followers. Live by the slab die by the slab. This is why I only buy books that bring me joy. Stick to this rule and you will always have fun collecting comic books
Oh, I must go on. I'm an ASM collector. ASM 362 has been submitted thousands of times. It was all Venom hype. It's a horrible book with too many graded copies.
If you want an investment, go with stocks. If you want to own a beautiful piece of art that might be worth something later buy a comic book. Comics aren’t liquid, stocks are.
Do you offer Buy It Now and Best Offer? If not, that’s part of the problem. I don’t look at anything anymore that is an auction when there are tons out there that I can get at a price I am comfortable paying or make an offer.
I recently just got back into comics and found the grading thing scary. I collected years ago mainly star wars. Come back to find everything had changed due to grading. I currently have some graded books hung on my wall but at that point it became art to me. So I cared more about the cover art, then key books when I purchased them. Personally I will slab anything signed to preserve the signature but that's it due to the cost plus risk of mailing in my comics. I am definitely not an expert at comics at all. So definitely appreciate the content and knowledge being shared.
The markets dumped the past couple years. All we can hope for is a shift but collectors and spectators are tapped out between price hikes in grading (now ones announced today, the integrity of these companies and just general saturation in a not so great economy. Not much to be excited about news wise and honestly there are so many books or keys that it’s easy to be holding cold books constantly.
Ok, so I just started buying comics books again(havent in a long time). I thought if it was in a case, it keeps it protected. Should I not buy comics in cgc cases?
Anything can sell for the right price I’d say don’t look at the last sold, look at buy now and be the cheapest online it will sell right away and don’t only look at your grade, alot of the time higher grades are cheaper then the last sold of your current grade.
I lost my job a few months ago, moneys tight and I've been slimming my collection down. At first nothing moved, but then I accepted most of my mid grade,none keys were actually dollar bin stock things picked up. As for things with a little more value I'm not asking what is FMV, instead I'm asking in my current financial situation how much would I pay for that book if I didn't have it.
I can't speak for all comic collectors, but I'd never buy comics that are slabbed because I read every comic i buy. 🤷♂️ Also, ya, could never understand why newsstand matters.
Those books are the ones I buy to give to the kids. They put them on their walls and enjoy the art. I gave my Granddaughter an ASP 129. She loves it. Do the same, you will feel better.
I don't buy slabs. Never trusted CGC when they 1st came out doing this. Everything that made me "paranoid" about doing business with them, they wound up doing.
I’m not a collector at all. I bought a few comic books in the 90’s and haven’t bought since. I have no desire for those big plastic cases. I want to read them. I bought almost 100 (mostly Superman) conics yesterday & today. I spent under $200 with tax and shipping. All on ebay.. 40%-60% off plus $.25 combined shipping per book. All listed as VG or better. I don’t really care about the grading as long as Incan read it. I don’t even have to buy cards or bags.
The DC comics present #26 in 9.0 sold in November for $150. I would buy that if you match the price. Where do I buy? 😉😁 The ASM's too LOL... surprised you didn't mention where to buy them.
That DC Comics book is a cover mess. Not only are the Titans not on it, it's to cluttered & not in a good way. Reminds me of the 1st Rogue in Avengers annual. The stupid thing to me is you cleared the crap off and blew up the art as a virgin it would be a nice piece.
I grade comics to hold for the long run 10-20 years down the road to sell. There's better ways to make money than the whole grading process then flipping process..
I'm nearly slabbed out . Mine were mostly silver and bronze maybe 100 all told over 10 years . The only way I'll get another slab book would be to buy and flip it if opportune .
Im generally a fan, but remember when you laughed at the whatnot guy freaking out. This is your, more sane version. Although, I do understand the frustration.
I don’t believe the slabs are the only problem. Disney/Marvel abandoned the customers supporting their books. When modern books get preachy, collectors seem to run. Good stories sold old books though good covers helped. No way great covers, with stories people can’t stomach, will sell back issues. The Teen Titans book, I don’t understand. The Agatha Harkness ? Disney people seem to like her but old time Marvel collectors? I don’t think she’d even be. too 100 comic book character. Her first appearance is about the same price as 2019 price. No one wanted it then. People are questioning CGC to boot. Scandals and certain dealers getting 9.9s when I can’t get a 9.9 on 2000 plus modern submissions. Lots of things at work here but the main thing imo is that old time collectors, people who spend a lot of money, don’t appreciate the changes Long term ? It may or may not work. Short term ? Disney/Marvel really hurt the hobby and they seem to insist on doubling down. CGC ? See the explanation for Disney/Marvel.
People probably buy raw books because they feel if they clean and press it, it'll increase in value. If they buy a slabbed book, the potential increase in value is minimal. Imo. One way to sell your books is put them on auction. 😊
When Disney decides to make three movies about Mr Sinister that 9.4 X-Men 221 will skyrocket to the moon trust me. Everyone buy it now before its too late
I have only one slabbed book, 1990's Spider-Man number 1, and that's just for my own personal edification of having it. Beyond that, slabbed books have no value or purpose to me.
Post-1970 books don't buy anything lower than 9.6 graded, ever. Why would you do so? Collectors want 9.6 or better. Anything less than that is not collectible. Didn't you know this? How have you not figured this out?
Some books should not be graded, that simple. I seek out 9.8 graded grails because they are legit rare. I simply have no desire to have a graded comic that isn't grade-worthy. I have a 9.8 of that first Killmonger and the first Agatha - and simply do not want one if it were less than 9.2. The graded comic market is unique and not for everyone. 75% of the influencer community is drawn to gimmicks like Mark Spears and cover art variants on repeat. The books in-between have no legit sustainable market.
I think the basic problem is you're trying to treat the comic industry as an investment vehicle rather than a collectible for the collectors. Basically you're a Speculator who doesn't really like comics but you invested in comics because you thought you could make money. I've owned a comic book store for 35 years and I could sell every one of those books no problem but that's because I actually like comics and I got into the business because of my love of comics.
I still don't understand why anybody selling a book expects a buyer to pay their own slabbing fees. All the slab says to me is I don't need to ask for more pictures, it does not make the book worth more.
You could sell them, just not for the price you want😂
Right
Exactly!
The grade is too low. No one wants it at those grades.
@@nelsonrodriguez5451 if you're collecting Black Panther and need that issue maybe twenty dollars/pounds? The idea anyone would pay several hundred is hilarious.
@@nelsonrodriguez5451 Yup, only reason people might buy raw is they think it is a higher grade
so there was this period in my life when i kept attracting the wrong people, wrong opportunities, everything just felt…off. i couldn’t figure out why it kept happening. then one day, a friend mentioned a book called Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, saying it helped them see the patterns they didn’t even realize they had. i decided to give it a read, and wow, it opened my eyes to how much my own energy was shaping my life. seriously, this book is something else.
@@bijaykumarnaik8116Thanks for the recommendation. Typically when it seems everyone else has a problem, we know who really has the issue
Obviously your pricing i s out of whack. The ONLY reason a book won't sell is you are asking too much:
- Jungle Action #6 - 6.5 eBay auction = $80, Fixed price = $100 - Your 5.0 at $100 is way out.
- FF #94 - 7.0 eBay auction = $76
- DC Comics Presents = 9.0 eBay auction = $150. You are asking $250
Ok, I had to stop watching. Your whining and refusal to actually look at true market value and blaming sellers is getting annoying. You are obviously cherry picking your prices taking the highest Fixed price and think you should get that. That isn't how it works.
Stop slabbing books that aren't worth it. This isn't Field of Dreams where "If you slab it he will come."
ANYTHING is worth what people are willing to pay. You are charging too much. Pure and simple.
Well said.
It’s a fabricated negative rant video for “views”, nothing more. That’s how the guy works.
@@capncrunch2573 Fair enough. First, and last time, I have/will watched this guy
💯, I wonder if sticky is humble enough to admit he's wrong, I'm doubting it..
His head and ego are both over inflated.
Because you're basing your price based on some arbitrary amount printed in a magazine instead of what it's worth to actual buyers. I've been collecting comics for 45 years. Slabbing is the worst scam I've seen in the hobby; it can't go away soon enough.
restoration of books and selling them as not is the worst scam in the hobby!!!!LOL!!!!
Not a scam. It provides an impartial third party grade between buyer and seller.
Slabbing is not a scam - since most dealers over grade their comics when they try to sell them and probably aren't even aware of restoration being done on their comic ( or if they ARE aware of it they won't tell you) - for those 2 reasons slabbing is ESSENTIAL when buying an expensive old comic book !
@@LODGE4444 i agree!!! too many crooks this hobby!!!!
You are literally blaming your customers for not wanting to buy your book. I don't think that is productive.
Speaking of, may I tell you about Excellent Ethan?
Not that people are against slabs - just almost no demand for 5.0 bronze age books . If it's a Hulk 181 or ASM129 - fine. Vast majority of bronze - it needs to be high grade (and people choosier in a buyers market).
Same as trying to sell a 9.0 or even 9.2 / 9.4 modern. No interest unless 9.8. 9.6 even touch and go.
Exactly!!!
@@lukemorley3540 and that’s sad I buy low grade books because it’s better to own a book than not own a book….and you can always trade up later…
Exactly (again!)
You chose the hobby. Deal with it or get out.
Yeah because they're random books that are slabbed at mid grades. It's not rocket science
This lol homie is finally joining us in reality 😂😭
That’s one factor and another one is there’s dozens upon dozens of each of those books listed. Most of his are a little high as well.
Correct - But FB is no place to state anything consisting of common sense.
All those books would have been cool if they were raw.
I’ve never been into slabs I like to enjoy flipping thru my vintage comic book collection and enjoying some of the old adverts inside
Agreed. The old advertisements are so awesome. Sometimes I like to flip through a book just for that nostalgia aspect. Not the mention the smell of the paper. Ah, heaven🤩😍
Slabs have ruined prices. The only people that want slabs are not really collectors. Collectors want to flip through books and sometimes even read them.
I happen to like CGC slabs, but I don't resell comics, if I get something graded its because I like the book in the slab not because of the added value
@@davidmckinley5343 I have some slabs but it’s on multiple books so I have one slabbed and a few that’s not to trade…
I don’t think they only sometimes don’t read them
I've lowered grades on literally hundreds of books in my life by handling them. I just sent in a bunch of my first "gets" because I can now read them online. I saw people were buying Non-Fungible Tokens of comics and realized I'm going to set my sights on Fungible Tokens. Therefore, I've begun accumulating Golden Age comics and I'm going to liquidate all the dollar bin junkers I've accumulated. They are cool to read. I will probably give a bunch away and dump most of them on whatnot over this next year. I won't be selling any of my PC slabs I just submitted to CBCS.
@@davidmckinley5343 Agreed. This side hustle is only for speculators, not real comic lovers. We went through this in the 90s, and it almost tanked the industry. This is a large part of why we may be seeing the end of floppy issues permanently. 1) You have to add the significant grading and shipping cost to recoup your third party fees, and 2) you increase scarcity, because now there's yet another issue that can't be read and enjoyed because it's sealed in plastic.
I have stopped looking for slabs less than a year ago, zero interest in them anymore.
It's pretty simple, people have started to realize the slabbed books are not worth the overinflated prices sellers are asking for them. You crack them bad boys out and sell them at the recent sold prices (last 30 days) and they will sell. The only reason you got those books graded was to get more money for them and the market finally caved in.
If you have a $5000 book, and you want it more liquid so a 3rd party arbitrator decides the grade, and everyone transacts on thei ruling, then its probably fine to pay $100 for that. Particularly if you are in the book for cheap.
If you have a low grade $20 book, why would you ever pay $30-$40 for a slab and hope to get $50-$60 for it. Its crazy. You are better offering up the book ungraded for $20, and some newbie will come along thinking it is a better grade than it is, and gladly pay you the $20.
Not as much risk in play on a $20 book vs a $5000 book, so why pay for the grade "insurance" (what slabbing sort of is) on low risk transactions?
That said, I do have $20 books slabbed, and paid extra for it. Not so much because I care about the grade, but because I display them alongside $5000 slabbed books. I am paying $30 for the asthetics, like buying a fancy picture frame. You will never get your money back, but it is an investment in feeling good at the way it looks. That's the only return to expect.
@@wlnorris75 That's not the problem. People get books slabbed and try to sell them at overinflated prices. If the book is worth $5k and you pay $100 to slab it, it's not suddenly worth $7500. People who get books slabbed don't treat it as insurance, they treat it like adding a multiplier to the value. Collectors aren't willing to pay the multiplied price any more. It's that simple.
I have NO slabbed books. Slabbed books aren't comics anymore, just big graded trading cards.
Hear, hear.
I would say the American consumer is tapped out, but your telling me they get sold raw?
Ok boomer
You can always crack them out. People aren't slabbing books for old-school collectors. They are slabbing books for verification before sale. Nothing a rich dude hates more than some unethical liar stealing their money.
The fall of Sticky Goose?
How many times are you losers going to write this 😂
To many scandals with cgc, employees stealing and replacing books, the reslab scandal, you can't even be sure if the book you sent in is the one you got back in the slab. Not trustworthy.
And yet, criticizing them or pointing this out makes you a target for anger in certain circles. The simping for CGC by influencers and the like is outstanding.
Prices didn’t go stupid…the people willing to pay those prices went stupid.
Yeah, I never got into the whole slab thing.. always saw it as a gimmick. I have nearly 6000 books... zero slabs. We are in the aftermath of the slabbed book bubble burst. My raw books held there value just fine the last few years.
i wonder how many restored books you have mixed in your collection!!!LOL!!!!
@@berardoferrari doss reminds me of the boomer down the street telling the young kid if he works real hard he can buy his 1.2 million dollar home that was bought for $35k 40 years ago. If doss could imagine starting from scratch right now, he would probably see things differently.
$15 to ship a slab, vs $5 for a raw, so not only are you paying “slabbing fees” but the extra cost to ship. 9.8s have been replaced by 9.9s…
$5 to ship a raw book is not as common as you think. Most sellers have shipping cost at $6-9. USPS Ground advantage is a minimum $6-7 to ship comic books.
@@allisknu11 You can get around that if you sell enough. You can get a Bound Printed Material permit for free now (used to be $200 a year). Pricing then is less than media mail. The only downside is places like E-Bay or Paypal can't print BPM labels. You will need a Pitney Bowes or similar account (so you need to sell enough to justify that expense).
Which is why I've always had a bone to pick with media mail. If I get a FREE permit, I can ship for LESS than media mail. So why does the USPS have a stick up their butt about someone paying MORE than BPM shipping a comic by media mail. The same box going through the same mail system, and someone trying to pay MORE than the cheapest price. What's the problem?
There is absolutely zero logic there...
Try auction starting 0.99 and see
What site are you selling your books on???
Only thing I would say is to keep patient and wait for the market to pick up again when the economy is better. Lots of people are going with cheaper alternatives when it comes to comics. That's why I very quickly once I got into the hobby switched from individual issues to trades. Then I learned about the Omnibuses and haven't looked back since. For me it works better to have the whole run in one book then hunting individual issues. Later when I develop a love for a character, I may eventually pick up some slabs to display.
I started buying 8.5 and 9.0 Uncanny X-Men Keys this past year because I noticed the raw copies were selling for way more than the graded ones for similar looking books. I cracked them all out and got them signed by Chris Claremont and now have a great little X-Men collection for a fraction of the price.
100 dollar mr sinister.. 19.99 shipping 7 in taxes.. i would skip that shit too..
Wait a minute. Are you a collector or a seller. Cos you can’t be both.
You can’t be what jit doing
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I have 3 slabs total, punisher #1, amazing Spider-Man with Larsen art and a gift slab Thor with a Hildebrandt cover, all my other comics are "raw". Unless you discount those slabs to sell, or trade them to get the silver age books you're looking for, it sounds like a tough sell. The only other thing you can do is sit on them & wait it out. Time is kinder to the value of collectibles.
Newsstands DO matter, but only if they're 9.8s, and keys.
Second appearances and first cover appearances just don't hit the mark after the hype settles; people usually just buy those when the ACTUAL keys get too pricey.
Also, the problem with slabs on cheaper books($500 or less), is that buyers are hoping a seller doesn't know what he has, so they can convince them their higher grade book is in lower condition than it is.
A lot of people think they can stick almost any book in a press and automatically jump the grade up 2+ points.
CGC just raised their prices as well 😂 Happy New Years collectors!
😂😂😂👌
Sticky did you remove your Comic Tom is doxing me video????????????
"I bought into CGC hard. I was a CGC Bro."
We have to respect anyone who can admit such things. Especially publicly.
Just run them at auction and take what the market will bring.
10 day auctions all ending within a few hours of each other on a Sunday night :)
Buddy, you took down your latest video or youtube did?
Newsstand's do matter, depending on the book and the grade. ASM #300 newsstand in a 9.8 is over $7500...just saying.
Where you selling it? Might help to link your store
Down with slabbing comics! Up with reading comics!
I dont understand it either. cgc just raised their prices. Think im just gonna keep mine raw for now.
I refuse to pay a premium for a comic I can't read. I'm glad to see that collectors are turning away from the slabs. Slabbing made sense for Card collectors, because you could still read the entire card without removing the slab. In comics, it only caters to speculators. True comics fans know how to read their cherished issues WITHOUT doing futrher damage.
Every time the Comics Industry has catered to speculators instead of readers, it has come back to bite the industry in its ass.
The market is down for comics right now. If you can't sale then you are asking too much...
DC Comics Presents 26 Mid grade goes for $90 to $130...
Uncanny X-Men 221 goes for $75...
Sticky......anything will sell if it's priced right. The whole slab-n-flip fad is over and was a mistake to begin with. If you bought and slabbed in the 2021-22 time frame, you're going to take a loss. It's always easy to look back and say woulda-coulda-shoulda. You have to just get on with your collecting life. Keep the books and enjoy them or just suck up the loss if you want the funds for something else.
Your wife could buy them.
Also.... Where do I find your books online?
Where do you sell these?
as a seller at shows slabs -hardly ever-move !
I only want raw copies
Slabs used to be the best way to protect older books, like golden age in particular. There are better bags on the market now and I think people just grade anything and everything, and even publishers sell new comics slabbed. It's just overdone at this point.
@@CrawlingPanther slabs are not UV protected yet people buy and display them
I love slabs. But the price has to be cheap for me to buy in 2025
In the case of that jungle action why did you send a low grade book into cgc?
He does not know how to grade.
and.....CGC has raised its rates
Obviously does not know the market. 2024 13 $179 $92 Sales for this year.
2023 16 $225 $130 On Dc comics presents. 9.0 The last time that book broke 200 was in November of 2023 and your asking 250??? OMG! It's a $150 tops right now. You bought the FOMO and now you pay the price.
I can just squeeze a cgc case and it cracks the bottom
The balls of the collectors to spend $50-$100 on a raw comic just to handle it like a $3.99 book fresh off the rack. Not every book needs the slabbed but certainly every book shouldn’t be raw, there’s a middle ground.
sure... but why spend money to send it to Florida where some meth head Florida man is gonna swap your book out when you can just get a top loader..i read my shit.. they aren't cards to be graded and never opened.
@@KorribanHideout nope. there's no middle ground. CGC is money in the pocket of Jay Z and that's is like giving money to Hitler or Chuck Manson.
And slabs are just non sense. You don't slab comic books if you love them. You don't slab a Ferrari or slab your wife or husband or children. You don't slab a painting or a sculpture. It's just insanity this slabbing scam. Only truly evil people slab comic books.
Okay, okay, they have no views. Which platform are you on? This vital piece of information would be really useful to others looking to unload books as well as the many loyal viewers who might be interested in the fire sale.
Collect what you love and do not want to sell. Sell if you need to, or if the profit is so significant, it eclipses your desire to keep it. If people are buying $1000+ books to sell for a profit, they need to sell it fast. No emotions. Or they're better off investing it in stocks, crypto, or hard assets. Also, sell when the trailer drops. Not when the show/movie comes out. It's psychological. People want a 9.8 for moderns, or a high grade raw. Anything in the middle, it will depend on the era of the book and what people are willing to settle with, given the price is right. People are selling into a market of very few people that can afford to buy collectible comics, let alone new comic books on NCBD.
Crack those cases man! Speaking solely for myself, I have not nor will I invest any money on slabs. I like to read them and if preservation is the goal… comic capsules has a great product!
What site do you sell your comic books at?
" Failed Spec" you and all the other RUclipsrs along with the followers. Live by the slab die by the slab. This is why I only buy books that bring me joy. Stick to this rule and you will always have fun collecting comic books
Oh, I must go on. I'm an ASM collector. ASM 362 has been submitted thousands of times. It was all Venom hype. It's a horrible book with too many graded copies.
If you want an investment, go with stocks. If you want to own a beautiful piece of art that might be worth something later buy a comic book. Comics aren’t liquid, stocks are.
Do you offer Buy It Now and Best Offer? If not, that’s part of the problem. I don’t look at anything anymore that is an auction when there are tons out there that I can get at a price I am comfortable paying or make an offer.
This makes me glad that slabs are comic I have zero intention of selling.
I recently just got back into comics and found the grading thing scary. I collected years ago mainly star wars. Come back to find everything had changed due to grading. I currently have some graded books hung on my wall but at that point it became art to me. So I cared more about the cover art, then key books when I purchased them. Personally I will slab anything signed to preserve the signature but that's it due to the cost plus risk of mailing in my comics. I am definitely not an expert at comics at all. So definitely appreciate the content and knowledge being shared.
The markets dumped the past couple years. All we can hope for is a shift but collectors and spectators are tapped out between price hikes in grading (now ones announced today, the integrity of these companies and just general saturation in a not so great economy. Not much to be excited about news wise and honestly there are so many books or keys that it’s easy to be holding cold books constantly.
Ok, so I just started buying comics books again(havent in a long time). I thought if it was in a case, it keeps it protected. Should I not buy comics in cgc cases?
I haven't bought a slab. And I haven't done so because my budget is tight right now and a slab tells me that I can't afford it. Otherwise I would
Anything can sell for the right price I’d say don’t look at the last sold, look at buy now and be the cheapest online it will sell right away and don’t only look at your grade, alot of the time higher grades are cheaper then the last sold of your current grade.
I lost my job a few months ago, moneys tight and I've been slimming my collection down. At first nothing moved, but then I accepted most of my mid grade,none keys were actually dollar bin stock things picked up. As for things with a little more value I'm not asking what is FMV, instead I'm asking in my current financial situation how much would I pay for that book if I didn't have it.
The slabs are ugly too. Why would I want a book that says 5.0 on it? It’s much better without the slab.
eBay auction, let them sell organically
Yea it's definitely a buyer's market right now, for the most part. People r being a little more selective.
Post-1970 non keys shouldn't be graded unless you expect to get 9.6 or 9.8.
I can't speak for all comic collectors, but I'd never buy comics that are slabbed because I read every comic i buy. 🤷♂️
Also, ya, could never understand why newsstand matters.
Slabs are bad, m'kay? They only have a purpose on mega-expensive books, not middling crap.
A comic should never be worth more just because it's placed in-between plastic. I never bought them. A $30 comic is a $30 comic!
You can't read it when it's slabbed.
Those books are the ones I buy to give to the kids. They put them on their walls and enjoy the art. I gave my Granddaughter an ASP 129. She loves it. Do the same, you will feel better.
I think the comic community is only interested in slabbing the exceptional now. Big keys, exceptional rarity, pristine conditions, etc.
I don't buy slabs. Never trusted CGC when they 1st came out doing this. Everything that made me "paranoid" about doing business with them, they wound up doing.
Lower your prices.
Just do auctions that end Sunday night if you want to sell things so badly.
I’ll take the Cletus for $15
I"m same on Uncanny 220 lol. . .only one I need on a full high grade raw run from 174 to 238 :)
I’m not a collector at all. I bought a few comic books in the 90’s and haven’t bought since. I have no desire for those big plastic cases. I want to read them. I bought almost 100 (mostly Superman) conics yesterday & today. I spent under $200 with tax and shipping. All on ebay.. 40%-60% off plus $.25 combined shipping per book. All listed as VG or better. I don’t really care about the grading as long as Incan read it. I don’t even have to buy cards or bags.
The DC comics present #26 in 9.0 sold in November for $150. I would buy that if you match the price. Where do I buy? 😉😁 The ASM's too LOL... surprised you didn't mention where to buy them.
That DC Comics book is a cover mess. Not only are the Titans not on it, it's to cluttered & not in a good way. Reminds me of the 1st Rogue in Avengers annual. The stupid thing to me is you cleared the crap off and blew up the art as a virgin it would be a nice piece.
Dont be a dirty flipper?
That's exactly what he is and all these "comic book dealers"
crying cause you wont over pay for his shit..
Do you promote your listings with eBay ad rates? I know it's just another rip off, but it seems items get NO exposure unless you use them.
I grade comics to hold for the long run 10-20 years down the road to sell. There's better ways to make money than the whole grading process then flipping process..
I'm nearly slabbed out . Mine were mostly silver and bronze maybe 100 all told over 10 years . The only way I'll get another slab book would be to buy and flip it if opportune .
Im generally a fan, but remember when you laughed at the whatnot guy freaking out. This is your, more sane version. Although, I do understand the frustration.
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If you sell stuff, I have no idea where you sell it. You don't have a link on your Linktree
I don’t believe the slabs are the only problem. Disney/Marvel abandoned the customers supporting their books. When modern books get preachy, collectors seem to run.
Good stories sold old books though good covers helped. No way great covers, with stories people can’t stomach, will sell back issues.
The Teen Titans book, I don’t understand. The Agatha Harkness ? Disney people seem to like her but old time Marvel collectors? I don’t think she’d even be. too 100 comic book character. Her first appearance is about the same price as 2019 price. No one wanted it then.
People are questioning CGC to boot. Scandals and certain dealers getting 9.9s when I can’t get a 9.9 on 2000 plus modern submissions.
Lots of things at work here but the main thing imo is that old time collectors, people who spend a lot of money, don’t appreciate the changes
Long term ? It may or may not work. Short term ? Disney/Marvel really hurt the hobby and they seem to insist on doubling down.
CGC ? See the explanation for Disney/Marvel.
People probably buy raw books because they feel if they clean and press it, it'll increase in value. If they buy a slabbed book, the potential increase in value is minimal. Imo.
One way to sell your books is put them on auction. 😊
You got ASM 300 Newsstand for sale?
Nice shirt!
I slab my GSX, asm300, asm129, hulk181, but I’m not selling I love the characters. Also my NM98 and BA12 all slabbed..
When Disney decides to make three movies about Mr Sinister that 9.4 X-Men 221 will skyrocket to the moon trust me. Everyone buy it now before its too late
I have only one slabbed book, 1990's Spider-Man number 1, and that's just for my own personal edification of having it. Beyond that, slabbed books have no value or purpose to me.
Let me keep going. Don't submit any comic that has any signs of damage, ever. Pre-screen at 9.6. Would you like more advice?
My comic book character is Ethan Birchenough!
Post-1970 books don't buy anything lower than 9.6 graded, ever. Why would you do so? Collectors want 9.6 or better. Anything less than that is not collectible. Didn't you know this? How have you not figured this out?
Books like that sell great at Comic cons! Cheap slab keys. Or you sell to a dealer in bulk.
Some books should not be graded, that simple. I seek out 9.8 graded grails because they are legit rare. I simply have no desire to have a graded comic that isn't grade-worthy. I have a 9.8 of that first Killmonger and the first Agatha - and simply do not want one if it were less than 9.2. The graded comic market is unique and not for everyone. 75% of the influencer community is drawn to gimmicks like Mark Spears and cover art variants on repeat. The books in-between have no legit sustainable market.
I think the basic problem is you're trying to treat the comic industry as an investment vehicle rather than a collectible for the collectors.
Basically you're a Speculator who doesn't really like comics but you invested in comics because you thought you could make money.
I've owned a comic book store for 35 years and I could sell every one of those books no problem but that's because I actually like comics and I got into the business because of my love of comics.
I still don't understand why anybody selling a book expects a buyer to pay their own slabbing fees. All the slab says to me is I don't need to ask for more pictures, it does not make the book worth more.