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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2023
  • Join former chief Republican strategist Stuart Stevens as he raises a provocative question: Will 2024 be America's last free and fair election? Stevens, whose clients included President George W. Bush and several senators and governors, warns that the GOP is veering towards autocracy, posing a threat to American democracy.
    In his new book, "The Conspiracy to End America," Stevens explores the forces driving the Republican party towards autocracy and examines the elements necessary for democracies to slide into authoritarianism. As an advisor to the Lincoln Project, Stevens offers a stark warning and a call to action to preserve democratic governance in the face of growing threats.
    Don't miss this important discussion as Stevens sounds a blinking red distress alert and offers insights on how to counter this existential threat to American democracy.
    Photo courtesy the speaker.
    October 26, 2023
    SPEAKERS
    Stuart Stevens
    Senior Advisor, The Lincoln Project; Author, The Conspiracy to End America: Five Ways My Old Party Is Driving Our Democracy to Autocracy; Twitter @stuartpstevens
    In Conversation with Brian Watt
    News Anchor, KQED; Twitter@RadioBWatt
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  • @ArtiodactylaSlayer
    @ArtiodactylaSlayer 6 месяцев назад +373

    As a journalist if one side states it's raining and the other side states it's sunny it's NOT your job to be fair and balanced and quote them both, it's your job to go outside and see what the weather is doing.

    • @jfrmfrjm
      @jfrmfrjm 6 месяцев назад +66

      From a European POV, that seems to be the problem with American journalism - the infamous CNN interview with Trump was a complete antithesis of journalism!
      There's a very telling video on RUclips from the early days of Trump presidency where Dutch journalists confront Trump's new ambassador to the Netherlands - they simply wouldn't have any of his nonsense, none of it. I haven't seen anything alike among American journalists to this day - the only one as principled as the Dutch is Mehdi Hasan, and he's British!
      Journalists should take advice from the Democrats smacking down Republican bullshitters head on in congressional hearings like Jared Moskowitz, Jasmin Crockett, AOC and Katie Porter.

    • @stevenhanson6057
      @stevenhanson6057 6 месяцев назад +5

      Sweet.

    • @jcbjcb2
      @jcbjcb2 6 месяцев назад +14

      @@jfrmfrjm The CNN interviewer wasn't so bad - she repeated questions. However, Orangeman persisted in rambling and whining.

    • @junanougues
      @junanougues 6 месяцев назад +2

      Good one!

    • @Notfunnysam
      @Notfunnysam 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@jfrmfrjm be careful which Democrats you promote. Republicans are outright crooks. Democrats are good at tricking people into believing that they are different. I'm talking about Washington. State level is different. Before you tout them as good take a look at them

  • @reasonandseason6720
    @reasonandseason6720 6 месяцев назад +185

    I’m 51 and the GOP has always been what it is today. Today they just say the quiet part louder.

    • @Darbimac
      @Darbimac 6 месяцев назад

      That's pretty much what Stuart's entire first book was about. That the GOP is, and has been, totally full of crap and believes only in power and money.

    • @susanmercurio1060
      @susanmercurio1060 6 месяцев назад +28

      I'm 77 and it wasn't that way in Eisenhower's time. Sadly, you grew up in the post-Reagan years and haven't seen anything else.

    • @nextworld9176
      @nextworld9176 6 месяцев назад

      I'm 68 and a military retiree. The GOP of my youth had a liberal wing. It was always the Democrats who were racist conservatives. Nixon did good things, but screwed up. Then, there was Reagan. Worse, there was Gingrich. Bush II dumbed the party down and Trump took it flying into insanity.

    • @judithmcdonald9001
      @judithmcdonald9001 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@susanmercurio1060 Yes. i could go for "I Like Ike" but from Reagan on, forget it!!

    • @joem6352
      @joem6352 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@susanmercurio1060 Eisenhower was a Progressive Republican, a rare breed.

  • @kathleenm3443
    @kathleenm3443 4 месяца назад +11

    “Straight up racism, and we should call it as such.” So true.

    • @carolbridge7768
      @carolbridge7768 2 месяца назад

      They just USE racism to get power. Its the fuel, not the actual goal of the wizards behind all of this.

  • @designchik
    @designchik 6 месяцев назад +405

    As a liberal, the reverence for Reagan has always puzzled me. The way he handled the AIDS crisis - or didn’t handle it - and that trickle-down-economics nonsense that led to the destruction of the middle class are what I remember. 🤷‍♀️

    • @shellyscholz1256
      @shellyscholz1256 6 месяцев назад +11

      Reagan listened to Anthony Fauci. He’s not the only one who fell for this horrid man. Hopefully that era has truly ended.

    • @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate
      @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate 6 месяцев назад +60

      republicans tend to focus on the emotions they felt about these people rather than the practical effects of what they did. Everytime I meet someone with weird beliefs whos willing to talk to me (a republican that is, im an independent whos single issue i vote on is which party will make sure that there is another election next time around), its always an emotional story that has led them to their weird and sometimes radical and unbelievable beliefs.
      When you hear people say "i like trumps policies" , i wish someone would follow up and ask them to name 5 that they like. Id be surprised if they could name 3

    • @shellyscholz1256
      @shellyscholz1256 6 месяцев назад

      @@Pro-DemocraticAdvocate I’m not a republican not a democrat but here are some things I can appreciate about Trump:
      He didn’t declare war on other nations
      He understood the border crisis, but Mexicans…obviously not so much.
      He has stood up to every lie reported by the media, although he did it in a degrading manner.
      Things I would have liked to see him do:
      Understand Mexicans
      Actually know something about that Bible he posed with
      Tell the media that their express job is to keep the government in check, even him
      Fired Anthony Fauci
      Speak to the working class more than the nearly extinct middle class
      Explain constitutionally why there should have been a ten day hold on certifying the election
      Explain most anything about the constitution
      I’ll stop here on what he should have done or I’d be here all night.

    • @kathycarraher5014
      @kathycarraher5014 6 месяцев назад

      Also Regan started the downsizing of state psych. hospitals in the name of smaller government. Now, we reap the results ,a lack of mental health practioners and healthcare. mentally ill are housed in jails instead of hospitals and an increase of homeless ..A lack of public care for drug addiction that was previously done by State Psych. hospitals.

    • @louannkyle602
      @louannkyle602 6 месяцев назад +54

      I agree his policies that continue today gutted the middle class it created our huge deficit with the huge tax cuts I do not understand why they look at him as a good president he even raised the retirement age for SS that just recently kicked in people that work backbreaking work can’t work that long and I’m sick of suits in the government who can sit around and work to 90 plus think we could do the same it’s just baffling

  • @JR-pr8jb
    @JR-pr8jb 6 месяцев назад +142

    Election denial has nothing to do with "belief." It's knowing the truth and refusing to accept it.

    • @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate
      @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate 6 месяцев назад

      its a wilflfulblindness, and its also code for that if you subtract all those black and hispanic votes, trump won, because the "others" aren't real americans in there eyes.
      These are their beliefs, not mine for the record.

    • @beefandbarley
      @beefandbarley 6 месяцев назад +8

      That's right. Well said. Very simple.

    • @jfrmfrjm
      @jfrmfrjm 6 месяцев назад +10

      Exactly - and quite a few of those "believers" have said so.

    • @git-er-dun_LBK_
      @git-er-dun_LBK_ 6 месяцев назад

      Yes, and election denial is but one of the tools Republicans have that will lead us to Autocracy. I am so tired of preaching to my family that they are turning their grandchildren into serfs. I'm happy that my life is 7/8th spent and will not have lack.

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 6 месяцев назад

      No one was interested in what I saw on election night.

  • @janeenlewis6238
    @janeenlewis6238 6 месяцев назад +89

    Just wanted to say, as a liberal woman,these discussions are bringing me some peace. I was traumatized during the Trump years from the mental abuse by friends trying to "own the libs." To the good people of the Common Wealth Club, Thank You.

    • @dabrack9350
      @dabrack9350 5 месяцев назад +4

      It was not declaration of war against democracy but rather against elite control of Americans (and anyone else who sees the same facts and wants to join)

    • @mirandashuwera3389
      @mirandashuwera3389 5 месяцев назад

      When that happens in society, it should lead the "libs" to question whether they're playing into the MAGA's hands, by constantly trying to police and enforce "political correctness." Imo 🥴

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@dabrack9350you show you don't understand how fascist movements operate and exploit disaffected people. Rejecting fact and rational argument is part of it, just as much as exploiting fear and prejudice.
      You have been programmed, strawman enemies is part of the recipe to subvert and control you.

    • @lindamullins1446
      @lindamullins1446 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@dabrack9350
      The right is the elite with a lot of money any way they can get it.
      They are for corporations not we the people having better wages. It was Regan who started busting the unions that we needed for better wages and insurance retirement etc. Republicans was against all that Democrats are more often been for we the people equal rights.
      Republican pretend less government then try to control everything even our bodies schools etc.
      Vote Blue
      For Truth & Democracy
      💙😎💙

    • @Silverhawk100
      @Silverhawk100 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@dabrack9350 And the chief way to wrest control from the elites was to let people like Peter Thiel, Donald Trump, and other rich business-class-type people control policy? Are you kidding me?

  • @sharondavid-melly1498
    @sharondavid-melly1498 6 месяцев назад +29

    Seems Germany learned a crucial lesson. They don't put up with lying from fascists anymore
    . God bless them💕

  • @susancarpenter9038
    @susancarpenter9038 5 месяцев назад +12

    An outstanding conversation. I'm deeply grateful to Stuart Stevens for his leadership on all of our behalf.

  • @nostradamus9441
    @nostradamus9441 6 месяцев назад +164

    Stuart Steven's analysis of the Republican party is excellent! Loved every minute of the interview. Thank you! Vote Biden, Convict Trump!

    • @debradelarue9717
      @debradelarue9717 6 месяцев назад +1

      Democrats are even more corrupt!! Woke policies, shallow policies, no thanks.

    • @carlettesouthern-robert2992
      @carlettesouthern-robert2992 6 месяцев назад +9

      💙 👍🏻Riden With
      Biden/Harris 2024
      🌊🇺🇲🗳💙🌊

    • @identifying.as.asovereignhuman
      @identifying.as.asovereignhuman 6 месяцев назад

      Biden hasn't given America anything to look forward to. What's his plan? What's he working on? How is he managing our problems? How is he framing our future?
      Americans aren't impressed with Biden and Harris, frankly, and they haven't given us much to go on.

    • @alwaysovercomingbear4809
      @alwaysovercomingbear4809 6 месяцев назад

      😅😂🤣

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 6 месяцев назад

      Yes. Biden is doing wonders with the economy. Highest employment ever.

  • @maryannwaddell3359
    @maryannwaddell3359 6 месяцев назад +99

    I am a Democrat, but I can relate to what Stuart Stevens is saying. And it is so refreshing to hear from a reasonable Republican.

    • @dancoffey8412
      @dancoffey8412 6 месяцев назад

      Don't be a Charlie Brown. Don't try to kick the football again when it comes to Republicans.
      This guy is like nice paper on a excrement-filled bag. Republicans gained power on dirty tricks and its baked into their DNA. They are the masters of Madison Avenue and rebranding when a brand fails or gets tainted.
      Recall the results of Citizens United and a vast sea of dark money supporting anti-American behaviors.

    • @georgeroberts613
      @georgeroberts613 6 месяцев назад

      He's not a republican anymore, may not even be a conservative. At least not until we pull democracy out of the fire...if we do. This is what Faux news finished doing; made anger and emotional nonsense profitable...and produced a cancer on democracy. And we all let Murdoch do it without calling him out. All in the name of "capitalism" at any cost.

    • @Darbimac
      @Darbimac 6 месяцев назад +12

      There aren't really any of those. He left the party years ago, but his analysis is still valuable.

    • @jfrmfrjm
      @jfrmfrjm 6 месяцев назад +13

      @@DarbimacUnfortunately you find only reasonable FORMER republicans - since there's absolutely NOTHING reasonable in the party today.

    • @intimacycafe
      @intimacycafe 6 месяцев назад +7

      I cannot trust anybody who still considers themself a Republican after all that has happened and continues to happen.

  • @EmmettHenderson-hf1zm
    @EmmettHenderson-hf1zm 6 месяцев назад +167

    Its inconceivable, incomprehensible, unconscionable how any loyal patriotic American could in any wY support trump.

    • @josephlandry8787
      @josephlandry8787 6 месяцев назад +12

      Your lack of cognitive empathy is frightening.

    • @camhamster3891
      @camhamster3891 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@josephlandry8787 After eight years, and everything we have all witnessed, it's perfectly natural for empathy of both varieties to fail.

    • @carmennurse8641
      @carmennurse8641 6 месяцев назад +6

      But at least 180M of the citizens do, alas, at their own peril!!!!!!

    • @rogerforsman5064
      @rogerforsman5064 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@josephlandry8787 So please dear Sir enlighten us!

    • @marcusaurelius9123
      @marcusaurelius9123 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@josephlandry8787 cognitive empathy? Seriously?

  • @stillherenow500
    @stillherenow500 6 месяцев назад +84

    The five parts that work together synergistically: 1. Support of a major party, 2. Financiers, 3. Propagandists, 4. Shock troops, 5. Legal structure to justify what you are doing.

    • @carlettesouthern-robert2992
      @carlettesouthern-robert2992 6 месяцев назад +12

      Excellent analysis!🎉

    • @tracyallen247
      @tracyallen247 6 месяцев назад

      1. Joe Biden supported by Democrat party
      2. Tides foundation & network of foreign sponsored organizations.
      3. CNN, ABC, NBC
      4. BLM, defund police riots.
      5. DOJ & FBI manufacturing evidence to prosecute political candidates.
      These are not conclusive measures. The argument can be made just as strongly from the other side. These arguments do not discover the truth, but they do reinforce a previously held belief for whichever side you are on.
      There is better evidence to consider than what is being presented here.

    • @jim0311
      @jim0311 6 месяцев назад

      Look up the business plot of 1934... Trump is it's continuation

    • @denisefelton5207
      @denisefelton5207 6 месяцев назад +2

      Nailed it!!!👍 🔨

    • @markg.7865
      @markg.7865 5 месяцев назад +1

      Fox fake news has certainly done its part as a propaganda network!

  • @susanhoffman6165
    @susanhoffman6165 6 месяцев назад +57

    Putin’s cronies massed astronomical amounts of money after his take over, the same has happened in Turkey and Hungry for the cronies of their demigods. That is a reason for the financial support of corporate America. Greed begets greed begets greed.

    • @thesjkexperience
      @thesjkexperience 5 месяцев назад

      It's also why certain people are still supporting the unsupportable. They want power in the dictatorship. Do not forget who the enablers are after the election.

    • @wendwllhickey6426
      @wendwllhickey6426 3 месяца назад

      The rich will pay also

  • @ClaudetteMapp-Reed-qt8dx
    @ClaudetteMapp-Reed-qt8dx 4 месяца назад +10

    This is an awesome interview!!! Thank you for giving us hope!!

  • @direwolf6234
    @direwolf6234 6 месяцев назад +82

    the most amazing thing is how quickly everything fell apart and still remains unglued ...

    • @carlettesouthern-robert2992
      @carlettesouthern-robert2992 6 месяцев назад

      More amazing is that though damaged and needing repair, the U.S. Republic, our democracy, our constitutions, our institutions, our courts have withstood the onslsught from the haters of freedom and democracy.
      Together, It's up to us now, to win the 2024 Elections. We must Vote to save democracy! 💙🇺🇲

    • @jfrmfrjm
      @jfrmfrjm 6 месяцев назад +10

      That's what puzzles the world - cheers from the other side of the pond. The only explanation must be that the tinder was there, it only needed the spark.

    • @direwolf6234
      @direwolf6234 6 месяцев назад +3

      good insight & analogy ...@@jfrmfrjm

    • @catherinebirch8263
      @catherinebirch8263 6 месяцев назад

      Seriously? Anyone who thinks that hasn't been watching. President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned about the military-industrial-congressional complex waaaaay back in 1961 and even he left out the "congressional" part. The gap between what the US does, why it does what it does, and what is says about it has been widening steadily since at least WWII. All that's happened is that the level of propaganda absorption is approaching critical mass.

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jfrmfrjmhow are things in the uK these days? More hopeful?

  • @piratessalyx7871
    @piratessalyx7871 4 месяца назад +4

    Thank you Lincoln project and associates this was educational and brilliant!

  • @doniphanblair5217
    @doniphanblair5217 4 месяца назад +5

    Love the guy, even though he’s way more conservative than I. Brilliant analysis, thanks so much. “Autocracies are based on fear, democracy on hope. ‘

  • @sonnysmith2991
    @sonnysmith2991 6 месяцев назад +38

    My biggest problem with Stuart is he was always part of the problem! He was fine with his party appointing anti-VRA/anti-gay/anti-choice judges, and now he’s shocked that the leopards are eating his face! He opened the doors to today’s Republican Party. Give me a break!

    • @susanfrancis5471
      @susanfrancis5471 4 месяца назад +2

      I don’t know enough about
      Stevens to comment, but I like him today.

    • @honuman39
      @honuman39 4 месяца назад +5

      I agree completely but he's also the ONLY conservative/Republican operative that owns up to his past, apologizes for his role in it and is attempting to make up for it. There's literally no other former right winger that does. At best you get never trumpers that admit the Republican party is toxic and that Trump broke it but will never admit their complicity in it.

    • @sonnysmith2991
      @sonnysmith2991 4 месяца назад +1

      @@honuman39 Good points you make here. I’ll give you that!

    • @Rays_Bad_Decisions
      @Rays_Bad_Decisions 4 месяца назад

      ​@@honuman39did it ever occur to you the fascist media monopoly lies and censors to trick you against your own interests????

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 3 месяца назад

      did you mean ERA?

  • @245194LAC
    @245194LAC 6 месяцев назад +66

    A voice of knowledge and common sense in a sea of madness. Thank you for your perspective and your analysis of the morass in which we now find ourselves. May your book be the success it deserves to be and may this video be seen by the masses and understood by most of them. Vote for continued growth and may common sense prevail. Vote Biden!💙💙💙💙

    • @alwaysovercomingbear4809
      @alwaysovercomingbear4809 6 месяцев назад +3

      I don't think Biden knows what day it is....🥴

    • @lindavinesett8983
      @lindavinesett8983 6 месяцев назад

      Dems under Biden/Obama created this sea of madness

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 6 месяцев назад

      @@alwaysovercomingbear4809well, he has people for that.

    • @imacmill
      @imacmill 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@alwaysovercomingbear4809Brought to you by the propaganda arm of the Depublican party.

    • @adiliareis3631
      @adiliareis3631 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@imacmill Vote RED !

  • @RhoArtMagic
    @RhoArtMagic 6 месяцев назад +20

    “Oligarchs in America don’t have to worry about what window to walk by.” 😂

  • @oldionus
    @oldionus 6 месяцев назад +154

    I have never been a Republican and disagree with people like Stuart Stevens on many issues. But we share a common belief in the democratic principles of our foundation and Constitution, and that transcends the corruption of politics in general and the fascism of the modern Trumpist GOP in particular.

    • @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp
      @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp 6 месяцев назад +41

      I can feel it in his voice. This weighs heavy on him - having been a part of the group who helped usher in “the cult”.
      Not that he did it on purpose or allowed it, but that he didn’t spot the warning signs earlier.
      I saw this coming around the time of the Bush v Gore toss-up & the dirty tricks republicans used to get Bush into office. Then immediately more tax cuts for the rich, while middle & lower income people were struggling (since Reagan).
      Back to Stewart.
      I bet this guy had privately shed some tears. His pain comes through in his words, his concern for our future as a country.
      I wish these republicans would have just looked around in the 1990’s. The writing was all over the walls.
      The christo-fascists were clawing their way into the republican party & they were blatantly lying about everything.
      Glad Stewart & the people at the Lincoln Project woke up, but now they’ve got a lot of catching up to do.

    • @tsuritsa3105
      @tsuritsa3105 6 месяцев назад +16

      @@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp Whenever he speaks you can really sense the guilt he's carrying, but at least he's attempting to speak out.

    • @linmal2242
      @linmal2242 6 месяцев назад +14

      @@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp Great term.....the 'Christo-Fascists' ! Does this relate to the pro-Putin element in the Republican Party. I thought Ron DeSantis would be better but that fight with Disney is nutz !

    • @nashshah7
      @nashshah7 6 месяцев назад

      Clueless..Mis guided..Burden on DEMOCRACY…CONSTITUTION & FREEDOM.. No conscious .. INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST..Totally disqualified.. have him DEBATE VIVEK for the TRUTH and HOPE..!!

    • @jcbjcb2
      @jcbjcb2 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp Gingrich

  • @NathanielHarari
    @NathanielHarari 6 месяцев назад +57

    I don’t think he misspoke when he said Jan 7th. He was referring to the day after Jan 6th when everyone said that Trump had gone too far and there was talk at that point from some Republicans that they had to stop Trumpism. That’s what he was referring to, I think.

    • @pohkeee
      @pohkeee 6 месяцев назад +12

      Yes, and that was the day they began to cave …it takes some time to decide how to handle a crisis…they chose badly!

    • @NathanielHarari
      @NathanielHarari 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@pohkeee Yup.

    • @carlettesouthern-robert2992
      @carlettesouthern-robert2992 6 месяцев назад +1

      Correct!😊

    • @ResurgentVoice
      @ResurgentVoice 6 месяцев назад +10

      I would say that’s true for some of the times he said Jan 7th, but he also talked about the “shock troops as we saw on Jan 7th”. That time at least seems like he’s misspeaking.

    • @MarkEmmett
      @MarkEmmett 6 месяцев назад

      He has done this in several videos I've seen/heard, though@@ResurgentVoice

  • @Jay-xw9ll
    @Jay-xw9ll 6 месяцев назад +73

    Anyone still trying to pretend the GOP are looking at 24, with anything other than bad intentions, needs to listen to this guy.

    • @jfrmfrjm
      @jfrmfrjm 6 месяцев назад +12

      A peek into Project 2025 should sober even the most adamant denier.

    • @jcbjcb2
      @jcbjcb2 6 месяцев назад

      @@jfrmfrjm Alito, Thomas, and other kochtivist seditionists, #LewisPowellManifesto, #AilesMemo, roger ratf**ker stone, et al

    • @roughhabit9085
      @roughhabit9085 6 месяцев назад +4

      Why? He freely admits he despises half the population simply because they have differing political points of view. Such people should be shunned.

  • @jodysheridan604
    @jodysheridan604 6 месяцев назад +43

    Stuart sounds very tired during this conversation, his book tour must ne taking a toll on his energy. We're lucky to have him on democracy's side.

    • @MichaelHallerandAssociates
      @MichaelHallerandAssociates 6 месяцев назад

      Dying democracy is taking it's toll

    • @roughhabit9085
      @roughhabit9085 6 месяцев назад

      What if 51% of the population voted to exterminate the rest?
      An expedient system? Yes , but don’t make any overtures to morality.

    • @margarettaft2944
      @margarettaft2944 6 месяцев назад

      Agree he’s rambling winging it not organized and prepared

  • @drdr1957
    @drdr1957 6 месяцев назад +72

    Joe Biden 2024

    • @thefarmersdaughter8235
      @thefarmersdaughter8235 6 месяцев назад

      What? So you love inflation, two wars going, and open undefended border? Biden is not running the country anyway Obama is.

    • @richardkashfi6251
      @richardkashfi6251 6 месяцев назад +1

      🤡💩🤡

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 6 месяцев назад

      Let’s be sure to stay boosted and safe for that better future and economy.

    • @richardkashfi6251
      @richardkashfi6251 6 месяцев назад

      @@LilyGazou Quack Quack 🦆🦆🦆

    • @adiliareis3631
      @adiliareis3631 6 месяцев назад +1

      @doctordoctor1957 NO !

  • @billwalsh388
    @billwalsh388 6 месяцев назад +114

    "If we nominate Donald Trump, the Republican party will be destroyed, and we will deserve it"
    Senator Lindsey Graham.

    • @dancoffey8412
      @dancoffey8412 6 месяцев назад

      Oh, you still think Republicans are a party and not a cult of personality. Look again.

    • @tsuritsa3105
      @tsuritsa3105 6 месяцев назад +15

      This is such a representation of the broken clock theory. Graham rarely says anything worth hearing, but it should never be forgotten that he said that. It was dead on then and it's dead on now.

    • @carlettesouthern-robert2992
      @carlettesouthern-robert2992 6 месяцев назад

      Then Lindsey drank the Koolaid!👀
      It's way worse for Lindsey because deep down inside Lindsey knows the truth!

    • @phylis3917
      @phylis3917 6 месяцев назад +2

      He knew.

    • @anton1949
      @anton1949 6 месяцев назад +5

      That was before Linsey fell in love.

  • @PKellyTeacher
    @PKellyTeacher Месяц назад +2

    Thanks Stuart for exposing the danger represented by Thiel, Koch brothers, DeVos.

  • @bozidarsicel3884
    @bozidarsicel3884 6 месяцев назад +8

    Brilliant pre-mortem of US Democracy.

  • @alibobo2009
    @alibobo2009 6 месяцев назад +61

    Great reflections with an element of hope. Vote, vote, vote. Seriously.

    • @MJ-xi1mk
      @MJ-xi1mk 6 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly vote RED

    • @LRCW1
      @LRCW1 6 месяцев назад +1

      Not just vote. Vote blue 💙💙💙💙💙
      straight up & down the ballet.

    • @LRCW1
      @LRCW1 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@MJ-xi1mkYou done lost your mind.

    • @adiliareis3631
      @adiliareis3631 6 месяцев назад

      @@LRCW1 Vote RED !

    • @phd_sound
      @phd_sound 6 месяцев назад +2

      TRUMP 2024

  • @albwilso9
    @albwilso9 6 месяцев назад +6

    We will not be out of this crises, unless we get the “oligarchy” under control, like Roosevelt did!!!

  • @shermanefouche4162
    @shermanefouche4162 6 месяцев назад +56

    I am so glad to have been able to hear Stewart Stevens for this amount of time rather than just a clip on a talk show!

  • @umbomb
    @umbomb 6 месяцев назад +6

    45 minutes in:
    There's nothing mysterious about people who've benefited from a system wanting to do away with that system after they've used it to amass personal fortunes.

  • @working_example
    @working_example 6 месяцев назад +79

    Thank you Stuart Stevens. Real patriot with a sense of history. Donated to LP.

    • @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp
      @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp 6 месяцев назад +9

      The best part about the Lincoln Project - their videos that get right into the psyche of TFG.
      Those videos are helping throw him off. They’re getting under his skin. He’s a very insecure person, as he should be since prison is likely inevitable.

    • @richardkashfi6251
      @richardkashfi6251 6 месяцев назад

      @@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp

  • @giuseppinamastropaolo7004
    @giuseppinamastropaolo7004 6 месяцев назад +37

    Finally someone that doesn't beat around the bush and goes straight to the point.

    • @imacmill
      @imacmill 6 месяцев назад

      The first 'right' person to do this.

    • @yvonneplant9434
      @yvonneplant9434 6 месяцев назад

      He and the other Lincoln Project guys helped bring this mess about. So F him no matter what.

  • @dougjones4538
    @dougjones4538 6 месяцев назад +9

    That was an extraordinary conversation, and both enervating and a sobering warning. Which way will we go?

  • @doshiepowers7716
    @doshiepowers7716 6 месяцев назад +64

    To ensure our democratic future, funding public education is essential. An informed population, hopefully, will make wiser voters

    • @lllllFuckyourmomlllll
      @lllllFuckyourmomlllll 6 месяцев назад

      That’s why republicans are trying to ruin our public school system.

    • @t.a.landry6410
      @t.a.landry6410 6 месяцев назад +14

      Unfortunately, @doshie, that's not the direction that some states (e.g. FL, TX) are headed in terms of public education... in fact they're moving in the opposite direction!!!

    • @helveticaification
      @helveticaification 6 месяцев назад

      Well, 'public education' obviously hasn't been good enough yet - or MAGAs must all have been drop-outs.

    • @hg2.
      @hg2. 6 месяцев назад +2

      This is such a load...

    • @felang9257
      @felang9257 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@hg2.
      How so?

  • @zizimatanda3685
    @zizimatanda3685 6 месяцев назад +10

    Powerful informative interview
    Thanks!

  • @carmennurse8641
    @carmennurse8641 6 месяцев назад +48

    The problem with people getting information is the fact that everything has a paywall and many of the citizens you want to reach don’t have/make enough money to pay for a daily newspaper

    • @Rnankn
      @Rnankn 6 месяцев назад +11

      Well when public goods become commodities, access to essential services is limited. Free markets have consequences, many of them anti-social or anti-democratic

    • @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate
      @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate 6 месяцев назад +16

      @@Rnankn we dont even have free markets, we have markets that benefit from corporate welfare and loose regulations. Theyre not completely free markets, they are markets that are set up in a way that benefits the top, under the guise of that being "free markets"

    • @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp
      @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@Pro-DemocraticAdvocate
      🎯🎯🎯

    • @alistairmackintosh9412
      @alistairmackintosh9412 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Pro-DemocraticAdvocateThey are mature free markets.

    • @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate
      @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate 6 месяцев назад

      @@alistairmackintosh9412 yeah sure and time shares are just variable rate investment vehicles. get that bs double speak jargon outta here, ive been around nearly 40 years and Ive got at least a basic knowledge of most important things in the world. Advertising and Political Campaign coded language only work when I'm distracted, otherwise my intuition for bullshit phrasing meant to hide the truth has been honed for years. George Carlin explained this to me as a teenager and I didnt take it to heart until a few years ago, but theres not much I can say he was wrong about if anything.
      Mature free markets ignores the fact that the game was specifically rigged in order to benefit corporations dating back to when Lewis Powell wrote the infamous memo to the chamber of commerce, look it up. I don't wanna hear any euphemistic bs out of anyone unless they can explain to me what the implications of hte Powell memo were, because that memo essentially lays out the plan that was executed to indoctrinate Americans into believing the myths we do.
      Republicans are now claiming that the left is indoctrinating people, even though the "left" is just telling it how it is for the most part. Obviously not everyone but there are no more right wing public intellectuals because the term is an oxymoron. They'll call themselves intellectuals but they're really anti intellectuals meant to sanitize the implications and the executions of the things in the Powell memo

  • @thomasd2444
    @thomasd2444 6 месяцев назад +5

    07:48 - How do you tell both sides when one side is a lie ?

  • @lewisjohnson8297
    @lewisjohnson8297 6 месяцев назад +14

    I was born in '48. As such, I can remember most of the history he cites. However, I date the beginning of the slide, to the day Eisenhower acquiesced, in 1955, to changing the national motto from, "i pluribus unum" to "In God We Trust". He knew almost immediately that that had been a mistake. He simply didn't know how grave.

    • @lindavinesett8983
      @lindavinesett8983 6 месяцев назад

      It's E not I pluribus unum and it means basically the same. I was born in 49 and raised a Christian.

    • @impossiblejuan
      @impossiblejuan 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@lindavinesett8983
      E pluribus unum = out of many, one.

    • @dsddala467
      @dsddala467 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@impossiblejuan is right. It's zero reference to god.

    • @imacmill
      @imacmill 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@lindavinesett8983_I was born in 49 and raised a Christian._
      Which perfectly explains why you don't know what E Pluribus Unum means.
      Kok-n-blu-balz to you, my christo-fascist friend: 🙏

    • @lewisjohnson8297
      @lewisjohnson8297 6 месяцев назад

      @lindavinesett8983 thank you. It's been a while, since I last read it.

  • @gp92510
    @gp92510 6 месяцев назад +11

    When Clinton submitted a balanced budget, he fid it without a single GOP vote..

    • @donaldcarpenter5328
      @donaldcarpenter5328 4 месяца назад

      Did what the GOP had demanded and PROMISED for decades. Republicans NEVER deliver on the goods and the Democrats DELIVER, sometimes, more in the past when they had more votes....

  • @patriciaadams4171
    @patriciaadams4171 6 месяцев назад +30

    5 minutes of continuous applause from Milwaukee 👏👏👏👏👏. WHAD, the VENERABLE public radio station of Madison WI, used to carry a speech of the day, which I've been missing for years. But now I've found a NEW source of greatness and I just SUBSCRIBED to this channel. MY LUCKY DAY.

  • @victorialeif9266
    @victorialeif9266 6 месяцев назад +5

    Vengeance lies at the heart of fascism.
    The permanent lie is the mechanism. The fuel to light the fires of resentment.

  • @earthmama5659
    @earthmama5659 6 месяцев назад +12

    The Republicans have not had a platform in 8 years! What are you for?

    • @Adogslife54
      @Adogslife54 6 месяцев назад

      There is a Republican platform published online. If you read it, it’s more frightening than no platform at all. It is divisive and clearly outlines that their way is the ONLY way. The Republican version of Mein Kampf.

    • @matt3024
      @matt3024 6 месяцев назад +4

      Try FORTY.

    • @SandyAZ1776
      @SandyAZ1776 6 месяцев назад +2

      What is right wing about "make America great again"?

  • @garybowler5946
    @garybowler5946 6 месяцев назад +20

    The idea of fair and balanced media is obviously not the way to go. The media should have a high fidelity to the facts and let the chips land where they may.

    • @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate
      @Pro-DemocraticAdvocate 6 месяцев назад

      until the profit motive is taken out of the media model, we will continue to get the same both sidesish garbage from most of the major stations, sans a few.

    • @roughhabit9085
      @roughhabit9085 6 месяцев назад +3

      In a very short space you managed to contradict yourself.

    • @garybowler5946
      @garybowler5946 6 месяцев назад

      @@roughhabit9085 An accusation without support, hm... Your an algorithm.

    • @robinantonio8870
      @robinantonio8870 2 месяца назад

      Media is always on the side of the richest .

  • @BigJ11617
    @BigJ11617 5 месяцев назад +4

    How about putting in "... accepting the outcome of the election and peaceful transfer of power" into the presidential oath and tying it sharply to the 14th amendment section 3?

  • @arlethapappas3325
    @arlethapappas3325 5 месяцев назад +2

    When you as public media repeat lies, you know are lies, you are complicit and guilty of lying to your public and should never be allowed to continue in any media narrative.

  • @WeThePeople76
    @WeThePeople76 3 месяца назад +2

    He says it: a conservative “value” is to end welfare. Not “as we know it,” or “reform it,” but END it. An unguarded, uninhibited statement.

  • @mnlw1363
    @mnlw1363 4 месяца назад +4

    Have read Stevens- it is not easy to do what he did, thinking of friends and family who twist themselves into pretzels and adopt random delusions to rationalize supporting trump. Deepest thanks to Stevens for his moral clarity

  • @tdupre9502
    @tdupre9502 5 месяцев назад +20

    Thank you! Great conversation. I am so tired of walking on egg shells, even in my own family. We need to speak up with truth.

    • @asifnihal
      @asifnihal 5 месяцев назад

      Stay strong bro, we need let other know that Trump is a danger to our democracy

  • @tomjmdalton8855
    @tomjmdalton8855 6 месяцев назад +9

    the ability to not recognize insanity and being loyal to insanity - what aristos enable

  • @SigneKristineHermind
    @SigneKristineHermind 6 месяцев назад +11

    Thank You! Watching from Denmark and cheering on your democracy 🇩🇰🇺🇸

  • @michaelRay2576
    @michaelRay2576 6 месяцев назад +7

    GREAT session on an essential topic of the time. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏾

  • @chaschan60
    @chaschan60 6 месяцев назад +10

    2016 was the end. We are now simply spiraling down the drain. We can not overcome this. The fact that we are still talking about this and nothing is being done is evidence that nothing will ever be done. Very sad

    • @richardlawson6787
      @richardlawson6787 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wake up...hes currently charged with 91 felonies...been convicted of rape...kicked off the Colorado ballot...so we trying to stop him

    • @user-fq4yz5ek3r
      @user-fq4yz5ek3r 4 месяца назад +1

      At least we can go down fighting,and there is a chance that you're wrong. Biden did win in 2020.

  • @urkiddingme6254
    @urkiddingme6254 6 месяцев назад +16

    My brain hurts from trying to keep up with Stuart's depth of knowledge of political systems. It's giving me a new vocabulary -- one that meets the moment.
    Dear Commonwealth Club - please interview a constitutional lawyer who can speak on separation of church and state, and also on whether we are a democratic republic vs a republic. 🙏

    • @impossiblejuan
      @impossiblejuan 6 месяцев назад +2

      I'd like to hear a discussion about the fine points between republic and democratic republic

    • @suzanneengland8978
      @suzanneengland8978 6 месяцев назад +2

      My understanding from what I’ve heard discussed by Tribe & Luttig is that this is a republic based on democratic principles. Not too complicated. Constitutional attorney Michael Luttig is quoted as saying “trump is a threat to American democracy”. Paraphrasing.

    • @netskatz3613
      @netskatz3613 5 месяцев назад

      I really like the way he thinks the insurrection was January 7th.

  • @Ryan-Fkrepublicnz
    @Ryan-Fkrepublicnz 6 месяцев назад +8

    "trumpism is a hate movement"- too damn true

  • @bluegreenOD
    @bluegreenOD 6 месяцев назад +44

    Stuart’s journey is mine - and his articulation of what the GOP has become is difficult to refute.

    • @pohkeee
      @pohkeee 6 месяцев назад +9

      Thank you for this comment…it gives my hope.

    • @roughhabit9085
      @roughhabit9085 6 месяцев назад

      Democrats praise deficit spending and practice it while Republicans condemn deficit spending and practice it. I agree with when he confesses that a right wing party no longer exists.

  • @creoleviking8433
    @creoleviking8433 6 месяцев назад +21

    At 33 min is when he really caught my attention.
    He points out what it means to truly be an American 🇺🇸

    • @dabrack9350
      @dabrack9350 6 месяцев назад

      I listened to them both talk of those lying all the time, conspiring to end America and thought YES - RIGHT ON. Then he said he meant Trump supporters but I said WAIT A MINUTE - THAT IS THE DEMS AND RINOS

    • @PKellyTeacher
      @PKellyTeacher Месяц назад

      Yes, "the reluctance to criticize these people"

  • @katherinekennedy6674
    @katherinekennedy6674 5 месяцев назад +2

    VERRRY interesting interview. Thank you for airing it. I will consider Lincoln Project for my annual donation this year.

  • @juliak6086
    @juliak6086 6 месяцев назад +6

    Well, yes there is a plot lol Heritage Foundation's Project 2025

  • @johnbillings5260
    @johnbillings5260 4 месяца назад +3

    Let's not forget what lead us up to this point of late stage capitalism.

  • @slinkydragon11
    @slinkydragon11 6 месяцев назад +5

    I've always thought of America as a Melting Pot of many people around the world...

  • @emma1166
    @emma1166 Месяц назад +1

    ''That is not a denial of an election: it is a coup! We have to call it what it is!'
    Thank you!

  • @63terrence
    @63terrence Месяц назад +2

    No goal except to be in control.

  • @kricketlangendoerfer8387
    @kricketlangendoerfer8387 6 месяцев назад +13

    I learned about TLP when it 1st appeared on Twitter in 2019. I heard when we were under quarantine ppl flew to one dwelling to continue sending the msg. I love your podcast on RUclips's Meidastouch. Keep up your great work! 💙💙😻😻💙💙

  • @earthmama5659
    @earthmama5659 6 месяцев назад +4

    I can tell you what Samatha Powers said. Putin is everywhere! Money money money.

  • @dalegribnitz-lo3tt
    @dalegribnitz-lo3tt 5 месяцев назад +2

    It's greed that drives these PEOPLE,,,, They simply don't want the competition and don't want to share piriod full 🛑**!

  • @justsittingherethinking2530
    @justsittingherethinking2530 6 месяцев назад +17

    You're right that the reason for the voter's Trump vote just doesn't matter. We may never really "get it" and the way forward is to keep pushing for a better future. "It'll happen anyway." Thanks.

  • @celiagraham5920
    @celiagraham5920 6 месяцев назад +8

    A lie is a lie! There is no “fair and balanced” in that. We should have just called a lie a lie, but we didn’t. And here we are now.

  • @TheJo201
    @TheJo201 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is An amazing interview Stuart Stevens is Speaking The Truth on Many Level

  • @CrucialSpeaks
    @CrucialSpeaks 6 месяцев назад +2

    If this doesn’t scare the pants off of the sane American people then there is no hope for the USA 😰

  • @CrucialSpeaks
    @CrucialSpeaks 6 месяцев назад +2

    IT'S IN OUR FACES.. WHAT WILL WE DO? ....IS THERE REALLY ENOUGH NUTS THAT IT HAPPENS?

  • @imacmill
    @imacmill 6 месяцев назад +3

    A curious 'tell' from this man: throughout the interview he was very relaxed, and then, at the 54-minute mark, when an audience member asked him how we can be sure he and The Lincoln Project won't turn on Biden and the Democrats if a reasonable Republican candidate turns up, his demeanor turns 180 degrees into a defensive posture. And his answer to the question was B.S.

  • @amiensarabellis8391
    @amiensarabellis8391 6 месяцев назад +5

    I've never been politically active, but this next year I will be.

    • @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp
      @SandyMaciazka-xp4yp 6 месяцев назад +1

      Great.
      Now help young people get involved.
      My parents always took me along when they voted. I went twice. My dad worked early mornings & my mom worked evenings, so I went with each of them & I’ve never missed an election since my first in 1982.
      💙

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 3 месяца назад

      So you were one of the little bigger than 1/3 that didn't vote in 2020. Which was around 80,863,000 and change that didn't.

    • @amiensarabellis8391
      @amiensarabellis8391 3 месяца назад +1

      @@onomatopoeia162003 I voted. I meant work for the campaign.

  • @PKellyTeacher
    @PKellyTeacher Месяц назад +1

    I appreciate anyone who admits they were wrong.

  • @victorjcano
    @victorjcano 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hard times, create strong men, strong men, create good times, good times, create weak men, weak men, create hard times. That seems to sum up where we are today.

  • @louannkyle602
    @louannkyle602 6 месяцев назад +4

    Civics needs to be brought back social studies is not a good trade off people need to understand how government works and why we need it we need the constitution and the rule of law and a government based on them people can’t appreciate a system they know nothing about except for a whole party telling them they should fear and hate it

  • @eftsoulpath333
    @eftsoulpath333 6 месяцев назад +36

    I like this guy, Stuart. He makes a lot of sense.

  • @monnieeeeyt7037
    @monnieeeeyt7037 6 месяцев назад +1

    In a nutshell….America’s chickens have come home to roost.

  • @terrizittritsch745
    @terrizittritsch745 6 месяцев назад +8

    Worth watching the whole thing. Very insightful discussion and I think worth buying the book. He says what many of us have thought, and tried to communicate, and then get shouted down because people don’t want to believe they’re racist.

  • @paulwooton4390
    @paulwooton4390 6 месяцев назад +5

    Listening to Mr. Stevens helps me understand why Romney lost.

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 3 месяца назад

      put it this way. Republicans need the old south to win. Just like the dems needed it a LONG time ago.

  • @arlethapappas3325
    @arlethapappas3325 5 месяцев назад +3

    Racist saw a champion in Donald. It’s mostly about race and power.

  • @dianerios880
    @dianerios880 День назад

    What are we going to do about the three INADEQUATE requirements we have in order to run for POTUS?

  • @TimEngbergSongs
    @TimEngbergSongs 6 месяцев назад +2

    Isn’t it greed. America could created many oligarchs? The USA is an oligarch playground/opportunity

  • @mrwilson7617
    @mrwilson7617 6 месяцев назад +10

    Vote like your right to vote counts on it. Because it does.

  • @impossiblejuan
    @impossiblejuan 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thoughtfully and articulately put, well said, strong and original thoughts. I would take something of an issue with the idea that hate was never adopted by a major political party. It was the main policy of Southern Democrats for the full duration of Jim Crow, and was tolerated by the larger democratic party, though perhaps never codified. Somehow, the party held together.

    • @jcbjcb2
      @jcbjcb2 6 месяцев назад

      Maybe a historian has discerned _how_ the northern minority of Dems hijacked the Dem party as a whole.

  • @roughhabit9085
    @roughhabit9085 6 месяцев назад +2

    And the best at hate are those that preach love. That sums this dude up.

  • @vialarmsecurityandfire8145
    @vialarmsecurityandfire8145 6 месяцев назад +2

    It is where the majority want to be, yes. We are making this too hard. When people show you who they are, believe them.

  • @trinelange1784
    @trinelange1784 6 месяцев назад +27

    I’m so glad I found this program, I have enjoyed it so much ❤ Thank you ❤

  • @user-ej5gx7ph7q
    @user-ej5gx7ph7q 6 месяцев назад +8

    I think the question is how did we ever think this was a democracy under its capitalist ruling plutocracy? The short answer, privilege

  • @fshrmn100
    @fshrmn100 3 месяца назад +2

    He did not know what Trump was? Wow! I figured that out the very moment he opened his mouth after descending that escalator.

  • @debbiec2663
    @debbiec2663 6 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic. Appreciate his perspective

  • @leannesheary-ru7ju
    @leannesheary-ru7ju 6 месяцев назад +2

    God protect People that cannot Protect Themselves & We hope that they can succeed in doing Well and Survive Everything They have to endure!.

    • @mikemailloux3771
      @mikemailloux3771 6 месяцев назад

      Please Jesus, protect me from your followers

  • @Ryan-Fkrepublicnz
    @Ryan-Fkrepublicnz 6 месяцев назад +5

    The fact that the FBI isn't surveiling the financiers and tracking their obvious sedition shows their worth

    • @jbusky7699
      @jbusky7699 6 месяцев назад

      That's because the FBI were encouraging the "seditionists"

  • @RSEFX
    @RSEFX 6 месяцев назад +2

    I wish we'd stop using the term "America" when talking about things that are in reference to the United States. This is about the collapse of the US government order, not all of the American continent.

  • @Mark_Amanda
    @Mark_Amanda 3 месяца назад +1

    The Bush Jr. first term election with the hanging chads in Florida was also an example of racism since those hanging chads allegedly occurred in predominantly African American neighborhoods.

  • @temporarystranger95
    @temporarystranger95 6 месяцев назад +14

    A very honest and introspective man, I have great respect for Stuart Stevens. Everyone should read both of his books and listen to what he says. He’s a very experienced and wise man. (Just an aside, Stuart resembles an older Charlton Heston). Thanks for the interview and thanks for posting.

    • @roughhabit9085
      @roughhabit9085 6 месяцев назад

      Lol that’s where the similarity ends .

  • @jarcata1
    @jarcata1 6 месяцев назад +3

    Talk about creepy...Johnson fits that bill.

  • @johnblake4523
    @johnblake4523 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for all the great insights Stuart

  • @Marg205
    @Marg205 6 месяцев назад +2

    Im sharing this with the population so they can get a good laugh!