As a journalist if one side states it's raining and the other side states it's sunny it's NOT your job to be fair and balanced and quote them both, it's your job to go outside and see what the weather is doing.
From a European POV, that seems to be the problem with American journalism - the infamous CNN interview with Trump was a complete antithesis of journalism! There's a very telling video on RUclips from the early days of Trump presidency where Dutch journalists confront Trump's new ambassador to the Netherlands - they simply wouldn't have any of his nonsense, none of it. I haven't seen anything alike among American journalists to this day - the only one as principled as the Dutch is Mehdi Hasan, and he's British! Journalists should take advice from the Democrats smacking down Republican bullshitters head on in congressional hearings like Jared Moskowitz, Jasmin Crockett, AOC and Katie Porter.
@@jfrmfrjm be careful which Democrats you promote. Republicans are outright crooks. Democrats are good at tricking people into believing that they are different. I'm talking about Washington. State level is different. Before you tout them as good take a look at them
I was about fourteen when Reagan became president. I knew next to nothing about politics nor did I care to. However, I was a snoopy child and often eavedropped on the conversation of the adults around me. There seemed to be a lot of concern that because of Reagan's policies, mentally ill citizens were going to essentially be abandoned, because outpatient mental health facilities would soon be closing. I heard the adults predicting people with serious, but previously monitored and treated mental disorders would soon be wandering and living on the streets. My mother, a nurse, was very certain this would happen. By the time I was fifteen, I saw those predictions had been spot on. The downtown area my friends and I had always enjoyed exploring and hanging out in had changed. We now often encountered some seriously disturbed individuals, some likely decompensating into acute psychoses, acting out in bizarre ways, and sometimes approaching us inappropriately. At times, we were frightened. Being teens, it didn't stop us from going downtown, but we were more wary of who was around us. When alone, I avoided the outdoor escalators and stopped cutting through alleys. There was only one inpatient mental hospital in our city. This very old facility has always lacked adequate funding. It lacked the capacity to accommodate the patients formally served by the facilities that closed. It was the beginning of the mental health crisis that plagues so many of our cities to this day.
Thank you for speaking up. I became aware of the Mental Health Crisis earlier,...like when I was about 23 years old in 1966. I called a local radio station and started a public discussion that went on for two years. Then two doctors who heard about it had themselves checked into the state hospital as patients That . They played they were patients for two weeks and then could no longer keep it up...(they felt like they were losing their minds. Not too many years later I had a relative go to work there and I asked him if patients were still still being abused there as had been the case when I worked there. He said the stunt of the two doctors had brought about an investigation and they rid rid the hospital of staff abusing patients but instead they were keeping the patients in a stupor state instead with meds in order to control them. That was perhaps ten years before Reagan put the mentally ill out on the violent streets in the 1980s.
This is exactly right. This is also why before the eighties, there were not a large homeless population. Now they are everywhere bc lack of mental health facilities has merged with lack of assistance for drug addiction.
@@Upstream5402 Wow, sounds like the Reagan presidency was the start of mental health being abandoned . Reagan also wiped out arts and music in schools, which thankfully has been restored to a degree, but it had a negative impact back then.
Just wanted to say, as a liberal woman,these discussions are bringing me some peace. I was traumatized during the Trump years from the mental abuse by friends trying to "own the libs." To the good people of the Common Wealth Club, Thank You.
It was not declaration of war against democracy but rather against elite control of Americans (and anyone else who sees the same facts and wants to join)
When that happens in society, it should lead the "libs" to question whether they're playing into the MAGA's hands, by constantly trying to police and enforce "political correctness." Imo 🥴
@@dabrack9350you show you don't understand how fascist movements operate and exploit disaffected people. Rejecting fact and rational argument is part of it, just as much as exploiting fear and prejudice. You have been programmed, strawman enemies is part of the recipe to subvert and control you.
@@dabrack9350 The right is the elite with a lot of money any way they can get it. They are for corporations not we the people having better wages. It was Regan who started busting the unions that we needed for better wages and insurance retirement etc. Republicans was against all that Democrats are more often been for we the people equal rights. Republican pretend less government then try to control everything even our bodies schools etc. Vote Blue For Truth & Democracy 💙😎💙
@@dabrack9350 And the chief way to wrest control from the elites was to let people like Peter Thiel, Donald Trump, and other rich business-class-type people control policy? Are you kidding me?
As a liberal, the reverence for Reagan has always puzzled me. The way he handled the AIDS crisis - or didn’t handle it - and that trickle-down-economics nonsense that led to the destruction of the middle class are what I remember. 🤷♀️
republicans tend to focus on the emotions they felt about these people rather than the practical effects of what they did. Everytime I meet someone with weird beliefs whos willing to talk to me (a republican that is, im an independent whos single issue i vote on is which party will make sure that there is another election next time around), its always an emotional story that has led them to their weird and sometimes radical and unbelievable beliefs. When you hear people say "i like trumps policies" , i wish someone would follow up and ask them to name 5 that they like. Id be surprised if they could name 3
@@Pro-DemocraticAdvocate I’m not a republican not a democrat but here are some things I can appreciate about Trump: He didn’t declare war on other nations He understood the border crisis, but Mexicans…obviously not so much. He has stood up to every lie reported by the media, although he did it in a degrading manner. Things I would have liked to see him do: Understand Mexicans Actually know something about that Bible he posed with Tell the media that their express job is to keep the government in check, even him Fired Anthony Fauci Speak to the working class more than the nearly extinct middle class Explain constitutionally why there should have been a ten day hold on certifying the election Explain most anything about the constitution I’ll stop here on what he should have done or I’d be here all night.
Also Regan started the downsizing of state psych. hospitals in the name of smaller government. Now, we reap the results ,a lack of mental health practioners and healthcare. mentally ill are housed in jails instead of hospitals and an increase of homeless ..A lack of public care for drug addiction that was previously done by State Psych. hospitals.
I agree his policies that continue today gutted the middle class it created our huge deficit with the huge tax cuts I do not understand why they look at him as a good president he even raised the retirement age for SS that just recently kicked in people that work backbreaking work can’t work that long and I’m sick of suits in the government who can sit around and work to 90 plus think we could do the same it’s just baffling
That's pretty much what Stuart's entire first book was about. That the GOP is, and has been, totally full of crap and believes only in power and money.
I'm 68 and a military retiree. The GOP of my youth had a liberal wing. It was always the Democrats who were racist conservatives. Nixon did good things, but screwed up. Then, there was Reagan. Worse, there was Gingrich. Bush II dumbed the party down and Trump took it flying into insanity.
I have never been a Republican and disagree with people like Stuart Stevens on many issues. But we share a common belief in the democratic principles of our foundation and Constitution, and that transcends the corruption of politics in general and the fascism of the modern Trumpist GOP in particular.
I can feel it in his voice. This weighs heavy on him - having been a part of the group who helped usher in “the cult”. Not that he did it on purpose or allowed it, but that he didn’t spot the warning signs earlier. I saw this coming around the time of the Bush v Gore toss-up & the dirty tricks republicans used to get Bush into office. Then immediately more tax cuts for the rich, while middle & lower income people were struggling (since Reagan). Back to Stewart. I bet this guy had privately shed some tears. His pain comes through in his words, his concern for our future as a country. I wish these republicans would have just looked around in the 1990’s. The writing was all over the walls. The christo-fascists were clawing their way into the republican party & they were blatantly lying about everything. Glad Stewart & the people at the Lincoln Project woke up, but now they’ve got a lot of catching up to do.
@@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp Great term.....the 'Christo-Fascists' ! Does this relate to the pro-Putin element in the Republican Party. I thought Ron DeSantis would be better but that fight with Disney is nutz !
Clueless..Mis guided..Burden on DEMOCRACY…CONSTITUTION & FREEDOM.. No conscious .. INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST..Totally disqualified.. have him DEBATE VIVEK for the TRUTH and HOPE..!!
The Bush Jr. first term election with the hanging chads in Florida was also an example of racism since those hanging chads allegedly occurred in predominantly African American neighborhoods.
Curious if you think that China is for Chinese or Saudi Arabia is for Saudis is racist or any homogeneous country like Japan that controls immigration to maintain their national identity/herotage/culture as a people i.e., Nationalism is just racism?
The five parts that work together synergistically: 1. Support of a major party, 2. Financiers, 3. Propagandists, 4. Shock troops, 5. Legal structure to justify what you are doing.
1. Joe Biden supported by Democrat party 2. Tides foundation & network of foreign sponsored organizations. 3. CNN, ABC, NBC 4. BLM, defund police riots. 5. DOJ & FBI manufacturing evidence to prosecute political candidates. These are not conclusive measures. The argument can be made just as strongly from the other side. These arguments do not discover the truth, but they do reinforce a previously held belief for whichever side you are on. There is better evidence to consider than what is being presented here.
Don't be a Charlie Brown. Don't try to kick the football again when it comes to Republicans. This guy is like nice paper on a excrement-filled bag. Republicans gained power on dirty tricks and its baked into their DNA. They are the masters of Madison Avenue and rebranding when a brand fails or gets tainted. Recall the results of Citizens United and a vast sea of dark money supporting anti-American behaviors.
He's not a republican anymore, may not even be a conservative. At least not until we pull democracy out of the fire...if we do. This is what Faux news finished doing; made anger and emotional nonsense profitable...and produced a cancer on democracy. And we all let Murdoch do it without calling him out. All in the name of "capitalism" at any cost.
Putin’s cronies massed astronomical amounts of money after his take over, the same has happened in Turkey and Hungry for the cronies of their demigods. That is a reason for the financial support of corporate America. Greed begets greed begets greed.
It's also why certain people are still supporting the unsupportable. They want power in the dictatorship. Do not forget who the enablers are after the election.
More amazing is that though damaged and needing repair, the U.S. Republic, our democracy, our constitutions, our institutions, our courts have withstood the onslsught from the haters of freedom and democracy. Together, It's up to us now, to win the 2024 Elections. We must Vote to save democracy! 💙🇺🇲
That's what puzzles the world - cheers from the other side of the pond. The only explanation must be that the tinder was there, it only needed the spark.
Seriously? Anyone who thinks that hasn't been watching. President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned about the military-industrial-congressional complex waaaaay back in 1961 and even he left out the "congressional" part. The gap between what the US does, why it does what it does, and what is says about it has been widening steadily since at least WWII. All that's happened is that the level of propaganda absorption is approaching critical mass.
Biden hasn't given America anything to look forward to. What's his plan? What's he working on? How is he managing our problems? How is he framing our future? Americans aren't impressed with Biden and Harris, frankly, and they haven't given us much to go on.
its a wilflfulblindness, and its also code for that if you subtract all those black and hispanic votes, trump won, because the "others" aren't real americans in there eyes. These are their beliefs, not mine for the record.
Yes, and election denial is but one of the tools Republicans have that will lead us to Autocracy. I am so tired of preaching to my family that they are turning their grandchildren into serfs. I'm happy that my life is 7/8th spent and will not have lack.
I don’t think he misspoke when he said Jan 7th. He was referring to the day after Jan 6th when everyone said that Trump had gone too far and there was talk at that point from some Republicans that they had to stop Trumpism. That’s what he was referring to, I think.
I would say that’s true for some of the times he said Jan 7th, but he also talked about the “shock troops as we saw on Jan 7th”. That time at least seems like he’s misspeaking.
you really don`t know much about Germany,do you to say,such foolish thing;look where Germany stands against the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza!
I WISH you were right. But as a German I am sad to say we are just coming back around with the AFD. WE are getting into a similar situation of power struggle in Germany as well.
He was supposed to be the leader of the Senate. He compromised his principals to support a traitor. He could have changed the trajectory of Trumps influence but thought Republicans could control him and use him to push their agenda. He failed in this thinking and the huge opportunity was wasted. He could have been a hero but all he was thing about was his goal of a Republican Supreme court.
So was not voting on Garland. Mitch cares about his power and that's about all. He wielded it too skillfully and got away with it so a great Politician, I guess.
My biggest problem with Stuart is he was always part of the problem! He was fine with his party appointing anti-VRA/anti-gay/anti-choice judges, and now he’s shocked that the leopards are eating his face! He opened the doors to today’s Republican Party. Give me a break!
I agree completely but he's also the ONLY conservative/Republican operative that owns up to his past, apologizes for his role in it and is attempting to make up for it. There's literally no other former right winger that does. At best you get never trumpers that admit the Republican party is toxic and that Trump broke it but will never admit their complicity in it.
A voice of knowledge and common sense in a sea of madness. Thank you for your perspective and your analysis of the morass in which we now find ourselves. May your book be the success it deserves to be and may this video be seen by the masses and understood by most of them. Vote for continued growth and may common sense prevail. Vote Biden!💙💙💙💙
45 minutes in: There's nothing mysterious about people who've benefited from a system wanting to do away with that system after they've used it to amass personal fortunes.
Have read Stevens- it is not easy to do what he did, thinking of friends and family who twist themselves into pretzels and adopt random delusions to rationalize supporting trump. Deepest thanks to Stevens for his moral clarity
This is such a representation of the broken clock theory. Graham rarely says anything worth hearing, but it should never be forgotten that he said that. It was dead on then and it's dead on now.
2016 was the end. We are now simply spiraling down the drain. We can not overcome this. The fact that we are still talking about this and nothing is being done is evidence that nothing will ever be done. Very sad
The best part about the Lincoln Project - their videos that get right into the psyche of TFG. Those videos are helping throw him off. They’re getting under his skin. He’s a very insecure person, as he should be since prison is likely inevitable.
The problem with people getting information is the fact that everything has a paywall and many of the citizens you want to reach don’t have/make enough money to pay for a daily newspaper
Well when public goods become commodities, access to essential services is limited. Free markets have consequences, many of them anti-social or anti-democratic
@@Rnankn we dont even have free markets, we have markets that benefit from corporate welfare and loose regulations. Theyre not completely free markets, they are markets that are set up in a way that benefits the top, under the guise of that being "free markets"
@@alistairmackintosh9412 yeah sure and time shares are just variable rate investment vehicles. get that bs double speak jargon outta here, ive been around nearly 40 years and Ive got at least a basic knowledge of most important things in the world. Advertising and Political Campaign coded language only work when I'm distracted, otherwise my intuition for bullshit phrasing meant to hide the truth has been honed for years. George Carlin explained this to me as a teenager and I didnt take it to heart until a few years ago, but theres not much I can say he was wrong about if anything. Mature free markets ignores the fact that the game was specifically rigged in order to benefit corporations dating back to when Lewis Powell wrote the infamous memo to the chamber of commerce, look it up. I don't wanna hear any euphemistic bs out of anyone unless they can explain to me what the implications of hte Powell memo were, because that memo essentially lays out the plan that was executed to indoctrinate Americans into believing the myths we do. Republicans are now claiming that the left is indoctrinating people, even though the "left" is just telling it how it is for the most part. Obviously not everyone but there are no more right wing public intellectuals because the term is an oxymoron. They'll call themselves intellectuals but they're really anti intellectuals meant to sanitize the implications and the executions of the things in the Powell memo
Unfortunately, @doshie, that's not the direction that some states (e.g. FL, TX) are headed in terms of public education... in fact they're moving in the opposite direction!!!
How about putting in "... accepting the outcome of the election and peaceful transfer of power" into the presidential oath and tying it sharply to the 14th amendment section 3?
I was born in '48. As such, I can remember most of the history he cites. However, I date the beginning of the slide, to the day Eisenhower acquiesced, in 1955, to changing the national motto from, "i pluribus unum" to "In God We Trust". He knew almost immediately that that had been a mistake. He simply didn't know how grave.
@@lindavinesett8983_I was born in 49 and raised a Christian._ Which perfectly explains why you don't know what E Pluribus Unum means. Kok-n-blu-balz to you, my christo-fascist friend: 🙏
Democrats praise deficit spending and practice it while Republicans condemn deficit spending and practice it. I agree with when he confesses that a right wing party no longer exists.
Did what the GOP had demanded and PROMISED for decades. Republicans NEVER deliver on the goods and the Democrats DELIVER, sometimes, more in the past when they had more votes....
The idea of fair and balanced media is obviously not the way to go. The media should have a high fidelity to the facts and let the chips land where they may.
until the profit motive is taken out of the media model, we will continue to get the same both sidesish garbage from most of the major stations, sans a few.
There is a Republican platform published online. If you read it, it’s more frightening than no platform at all. It is divisive and clearly outlines that their way is the ONLY way. The Republican version of Mein Kampf.
You're right that the reason for the voter's Trump vote just doesn't matter. We may never really "get it" and the way forward is to keep pushing for a better future. "It'll happen anyway." Thanks.
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When you as public media repeat lies, you know are lies, you are complicit and guilty of lying to your public and should never be allowed to continue in any media narrative.
Worth watching the whole thing. Very insightful discussion and I think worth buying the book. He says what many of us have thought, and tried to communicate, and then get shouted down because people don’t want to believe they’re racist.
At 46:02 the suggestion is one man presumably the dictator of Russia, decided to start the war against Ukraine. I’d argue the simmering war against Russia was by oligarchs, so the speaker is correct: American oligarchs are super important, the NATO proxy war a good example.
Why is voting voluntary? Why does America not have compulsory voting like Australia? You MUST vote in AUS ! Is it the 'free choice ' thing in USA or is it just set up by the parties to reinforce their positions and cohorts? In AUS it is considered a duty to turn up at the voting booth, whether or not you like the candidates is irrelevent, you must get your name ticked off. Whether you actually vote or not, most people do, is not so much in question as it is considered a civil obligation.
If someone can’t be bothered to vote, are they actually trying to learn about issues? Or are they going to vote on what they saw in a tv ad because they were compelled to show up?
People are afraid of increasing homelessness, food insecurity, unaffordable healthcare etc. Why can't or won't the politicians see this? They need to tame the corporate and banking Oligarchs who are destroying the citizens and are now coming for the politicians. Wake up politicians on both sides.
A curious 'tell' from this man: throughout the interview he was very relaxed, and then, at the 54-minute mark, when an audience member asked him how we can be sure he and The Lincoln Project won't turn on Biden and the Democrats if a reasonable Republican candidate turns up, his demeanor turns 180 degrees into a defensive posture. And his answer to the question was B.S.
My brain hurts from trying to keep up with Stuart's depth of knowledge of political systems. It's giving me a new vocabulary -- one that meets the moment. Dear Commonwealth Club - please interview a constitutional lawyer who can speak on separation of church and state, and also on whether we are a democratic republic vs a republic. 🙏
My understanding from what I’ve heard discussed by Tribe & Luttig is that this is a republic based on democratic principles. Not too complicated. Constitutional attorney Michael Luttig is quoted as saying “trump is a threat to American democracy”. Paraphrasing.
MTG proposed we drop Constitutional Republic and call ourselves Christian Nationalist. They are desperate to drop the word democratic which implies participation of all citizens in their governance. They want to make it clear, not everyone, just white Christians. Now some Trump allies are talking about post constitutional America😳
I listened to them both talk of those lying all the time, conspiring to end America and thought YES - RIGHT ON. Then he said he meant Trump supporters but I said WAIT A MINUTE - THAT IS THE DEMS AND RINOS
This guy supported some of the worst of GOP.... too little too late. Winning was the name of their game, and we all end up losing. Even this man. We DESERVE Trump.
The GOP base has never been lower in regard to the increased lack of virtuous behavior where all predetermined conventions and doctrines such as fairness in justice thrown away in 7/24.
A very honest and introspective man, I have great respect for Stuart Stevens. Everyone should read both of his books and listen to what he says. He’s a very experienced and wise man. (Just an aside, Stuart resembles an older Charlton Heston). Thanks for the interview and thanks for posting.
I wish we'd stop using the term "America" when talking about things that are in reference to the United States. This is about the collapse of the US government order, not all of the American continent.
As a journalist if one side states it's raining and the other side states it's sunny it's NOT your job to be fair and balanced and quote them both, it's your job to go outside and see what the weather is doing.
From a European POV, that seems to be the problem with American journalism - the infamous CNN interview with Trump was a complete antithesis of journalism!
There's a very telling video on RUclips from the early days of Trump presidency where Dutch journalists confront Trump's new ambassador to the Netherlands - they simply wouldn't have any of his nonsense, none of it. I haven't seen anything alike among American journalists to this day - the only one as principled as the Dutch is Mehdi Hasan, and he's British!
Journalists should take advice from the Democrats smacking down Republican bullshitters head on in congressional hearings like Jared Moskowitz, Jasmin Crockett, AOC and Katie Porter.
Sweet.
@@jfrmfrjm The CNN interviewer wasn't so bad - she repeated questions. However, Orangeman persisted in rambling and whining.
Good one!
@@jfrmfrjm be careful which Democrats you promote. Republicans are outright crooks. Democrats are good at tricking people into believing that they are different. I'm talking about Washington. State level is different. Before you tout them as good take a look at them
''That is not a denial of an election: it is a coup! We have to call it what it is!'
Thank you!
Amazing to me that a man who so hated our system and tried to overturn it, is running to head it up again.
Thanks Stuart for exposing the danger represented by Thiel, Koch brothers, DeVos.
It's the least he can do, considering.
Cruella DeVos.
I was about fourteen when Reagan became president. I knew next to nothing about politics nor did I care to. However, I was a snoopy child and often eavedropped on the conversation of the adults around me. There seemed to be a lot of concern that because of Reagan's policies, mentally ill citizens were going to essentially be abandoned, because outpatient mental health facilities would soon be closing. I heard the adults predicting people with serious, but previously monitored and treated mental disorders would soon be wandering and living on the streets. My mother, a nurse, was very certain this would happen.
By the time I was fifteen, I saw those predictions had been spot on. The downtown area my friends and I had always enjoyed exploring and hanging out in had changed. We now often encountered some seriously disturbed individuals, some likely decompensating into acute psychoses, acting out in bizarre ways, and sometimes approaching us inappropriately. At times, we were frightened. Being teens, it didn't stop us from going downtown, but we were more wary of who was around us. When alone, I avoided the outdoor escalators and stopped cutting through alleys.
There was only one inpatient mental hospital in our city. This very old facility has always lacked adequate funding. It lacked the capacity to accommodate the patients formally served by the facilities that closed. It was the beginning of the mental health crisis that plagues so many of our cities to this day.
Mental health was abandoned
Thank you for speaking up. I became aware of the Mental Health Crisis earlier,...like when I was about 23 years old in 1966. I called a local radio station and started a public discussion that went on for two years. Then two doctors who heard about it had themselves checked into the state hospital as patients That . They played they were patients for two weeks and then could no longer keep it up...(they felt like they were losing their minds. Not too many years later I had a relative go to work there and I asked him if patients were still still being abused there as had been the case when I worked there. He said the stunt of the two doctors had brought about an investigation and they rid rid the hospital of staff abusing patients but instead they were keeping the patients in a stupor state instead with meds in order to control them. That was perhaps ten years before Reagan put the mentally ill out on the violent streets in the 1980s.
@@lindabalent2755 Love ypur Work. Well said Indi so proud of you speaking the Truth. From a chick down in Oz😎
This is exactly right. This is also why before the eighties, there were not a large homeless population. Now they are everywhere bc lack of mental health facilities has merged with lack of assistance for drug addiction.
@@Upstream5402 Wow, sounds like the Reagan presidency was the start of mental health being abandoned . Reagan also wiped out arts and music in schools, which thankfully has been restored to a degree, but it had a negative impact back then.
Just wanted to say, as a liberal woman,these discussions are bringing me some peace. I was traumatized during the Trump years from the mental abuse by friends trying to "own the libs." To the good people of the Common Wealth Club, Thank You.
It was not declaration of war against democracy but rather against elite control of Americans (and anyone else who sees the same facts and wants to join)
When that happens in society, it should lead the "libs" to question whether they're playing into the MAGA's hands, by constantly trying to police and enforce "political correctness." Imo 🥴
@@dabrack9350you show you don't understand how fascist movements operate and exploit disaffected people. Rejecting fact and rational argument is part of it, just as much as exploiting fear and prejudice.
You have been programmed, strawman enemies is part of the recipe to subvert and control you.
@@dabrack9350
The right is the elite with a lot of money any way they can get it.
They are for corporations not we the people having better wages. It was Regan who started busting the unions that we needed for better wages and insurance retirement etc. Republicans was against all that Democrats are more often been for we the people equal rights.
Republican pretend less government then try to control everything even our bodies schools etc.
Vote Blue
For Truth & Democracy
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@@dabrack9350 And the chief way to wrest control from the elites was to let people like Peter Thiel, Donald Trump, and other rich business-class-type people control policy? Are you kidding me?
As a liberal, the reverence for Reagan has always puzzled me. The way he handled the AIDS crisis - or didn’t handle it - and that trickle-down-economics nonsense that led to the destruction of the middle class are what I remember. 🤷♀️
Reagan listened to Anthony Fauci. He’s not the only one who fell for this horrid man. Hopefully that era has truly ended.
republicans tend to focus on the emotions they felt about these people rather than the practical effects of what they did. Everytime I meet someone with weird beliefs whos willing to talk to me (a republican that is, im an independent whos single issue i vote on is which party will make sure that there is another election next time around), its always an emotional story that has led them to their weird and sometimes radical and unbelievable beliefs.
When you hear people say "i like trumps policies" , i wish someone would follow up and ask them to name 5 that they like. Id be surprised if they could name 3
@@Pro-DemocraticAdvocate I’m not a republican not a democrat but here are some things I can appreciate about Trump:
He didn’t declare war on other nations
He understood the border crisis, but Mexicans…obviously not so much.
He has stood up to every lie reported by the media, although he did it in a degrading manner.
Things I would have liked to see him do:
Understand Mexicans
Actually know something about that Bible he posed with
Tell the media that their express job is to keep the government in check, even him
Fired Anthony Fauci
Speak to the working class more than the nearly extinct middle class
Explain constitutionally why there should have been a ten day hold on certifying the election
Explain most anything about the constitution
I’ll stop here on what he should have done or I’d be here all night.
Also Regan started the downsizing of state psych. hospitals in the name of smaller government. Now, we reap the results ,a lack of mental health practioners and healthcare. mentally ill are housed in jails instead of hospitals and an increase of homeless ..A lack of public care for drug addiction that was previously done by State Psych. hospitals.
I agree his policies that continue today gutted the middle class it created our huge deficit with the huge tax cuts I do not understand why they look at him as a good president he even raised the retirement age for SS that just recently kicked in people that work backbreaking work can’t work that long and I’m sick of suits in the government who can sit around and work to 90 plus think we could do the same it’s just baffling
I’m 51 and the GOP has always been what it is today. Today they just say the quiet part louder.
That's pretty much what Stuart's entire first book was about. That the GOP is, and has been, totally full of crap and believes only in power and money.
I'm 77 and it wasn't that way in Eisenhower's time. Sadly, you grew up in the post-Reagan years and haven't seen anything else.
I'm 68 and a military retiree. The GOP of my youth had a liberal wing. It was always the Democrats who were racist conservatives. Nixon did good things, but screwed up. Then, there was Reagan. Worse, there was Gingrich. Bush II dumbed the party down and Trump took it flying into insanity.
@@susanmercurio1060 Yes. i could go for "I Like Ike" but from Reagan on, forget it!!
@@susanmercurio1060 Eisenhower was a Progressive Republican, a rare breed.
Love the guy, even though he’s way more conservative than I. Brilliant analysis, thanks so much. “Autocracies are based on fear, democracy on hope. ‘
Thank you Lincoln project and associates this was educational and brilliant!
It's greed that drives these PEOPLE,,,, They simply don't want the competition and don't want to share piriod full 🛑**!
An outstanding conversation. I'm deeply grateful to Stuart Stevens for his leadership on all of our behalf.
I have never been a Republican and disagree with people like Stuart Stevens on many issues. But we share a common belief in the democratic principles of our foundation and Constitution, and that transcends the corruption of politics in general and the fascism of the modern Trumpist GOP in particular.
I can feel it in his voice. This weighs heavy on him - having been a part of the group who helped usher in “the cult”.
Not that he did it on purpose or allowed it, but that he didn’t spot the warning signs earlier.
I saw this coming around the time of the Bush v Gore toss-up & the dirty tricks republicans used to get Bush into office. Then immediately more tax cuts for the rich, while middle & lower income people were struggling (since Reagan).
Back to Stewart.
I bet this guy had privately shed some tears. His pain comes through in his words, his concern for our future as a country.
I wish these republicans would have just looked around in the 1990’s. The writing was all over the walls.
The christo-fascists were clawing their way into the republican party & they were blatantly lying about everything.
Glad Stewart & the people at the Lincoln Project woke up, but now they’ve got a lot of catching up to do.
@@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp Whenever he speaks you can really sense the guilt he's carrying, but at least he's attempting to speak out.
@@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp Great term.....the 'Christo-Fascists' ! Does this relate to the pro-Putin element in the Republican Party. I thought Ron DeSantis would be better but that fight with Disney is nutz !
Clueless..Mis guided..Burden on DEMOCRACY…CONSTITUTION & FREEDOM.. No conscious .. INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST..Totally disqualified.. have him DEBATE VIVEK for the TRUTH and HOPE..!!
@@SandyMaciazka-xp4yp Gingrich
The Bush Jr. first term election with the hanging chads in Florida was also an example of racism since those hanging chads allegedly occurred in predominantly African American neighborhoods.
No goal except to be in control.
This is an awesome interview!!! Thank you for giving us hope!!
“Straight up racism, and we should call it as such.” So true.
They just USE racism to get power. Its the fuel, not the actual goal of the wizards behind all of this.
Curious if you think that China is for Chinese or Saudi Arabia is for Saudis is racist or any homogeneous country like Japan that controls immigration to maintain their national identity/herotage/culture as a people i.e., Nationalism is just racism?
He says it: a conservative “value” is to end welfare. Not “as we know it,” or “reform it,” but END it. An unguarded, uninhibited statement.
End welfare? Do they really want to swell the numbers of our homeless population?
The five parts that work together synergistically: 1. Support of a major party, 2. Financiers, 3. Propagandists, 4. Shock troops, 5. Legal structure to justify what you are doing.
Excellent analysis!🎉
1. Joe Biden supported by Democrat party
2. Tides foundation & network of foreign sponsored organizations.
3. CNN, ABC, NBC
4. BLM, defund police riots.
5. DOJ & FBI manufacturing evidence to prosecute political candidates.
These are not conclusive measures. The argument can be made just as strongly from the other side. These arguments do not discover the truth, but they do reinforce a previously held belief for whichever side you are on.
There is better evidence to consider than what is being presented here.
Look up the business plot of 1934... Trump is it's continuation
Nailed it!!!👍 🔨
Fox fake news has certainly done its part as a propaganda network!
I am a Democrat, but I can relate to what Stuart Stevens is saying. And it is so refreshing to hear from a reasonable Republican.
Don't be a Charlie Brown. Don't try to kick the football again when it comes to Republicans.
This guy is like nice paper on a excrement-filled bag. Republicans gained power on dirty tricks and its baked into their DNA. They are the masters of Madison Avenue and rebranding when a brand fails or gets tainted.
Recall the results of Citizens United and a vast sea of dark money supporting anti-American behaviors.
He's not a republican anymore, may not even be a conservative. At least not until we pull democracy out of the fire...if we do. This is what Faux news finished doing; made anger and emotional nonsense profitable...and produced a cancer on democracy. And we all let Murdoch do it without calling him out. All in the name of "capitalism" at any cost.
There aren't really any of those. He left the party years ago, but his analysis is still valuable.
@@DarbimacUnfortunately you find only reasonable FORMER republicans - since there's absolutely NOTHING reasonable in the party today.
I cannot trust anybody who still considers themself a Republican after all that has happened and continues to happen.
Putin’s cronies massed astronomical amounts of money after his take over, the same has happened in Turkey and Hungry for the cronies of their demigods. That is a reason for the financial support of corporate America. Greed begets greed begets greed.
It's also why certain people are still supporting the unsupportable. They want power in the dictatorship. Do not forget who the enablers are after the election.
The rich will pay also
@@wendwllhickey6426but they think they won't.
the most amazing thing is how quickly everything fell apart and still remains unglued ...
More amazing is that though damaged and needing repair, the U.S. Republic, our democracy, our constitutions, our institutions, our courts have withstood the onslsught from the haters of freedom and democracy.
Together, It's up to us now, to win the 2024 Elections. We must Vote to save democracy! 💙🇺🇲
That's what puzzles the world - cheers from the other side of the pond. The only explanation must be that the tinder was there, it only needed the spark.
good insight & analogy ...@@jfrmfrjm
Seriously? Anyone who thinks that hasn't been watching. President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned about the military-industrial-congressional complex waaaaay back in 1961 and even he left out the "congressional" part. The gap between what the US does, why it does what it does, and what is says about it has been widening steadily since at least WWII. All that's happened is that the level of propaganda absorption is approaching critical mass.
@@jfrmfrjmhow are things in the uK these days? More hopeful?
I am so glad to have been able to hear Stewart Stevens for this amount of time rather than just a clip on a talk show!
Stuart Steven's analysis of the Republican party is excellent! Loved every minute of the interview. Thank you! Vote Biden, Convict Trump!
Democrats are even more corrupt!! Woke policies, shallow policies, no thanks.
💙 👍🏻Riden With
Biden/Harris 2024
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Biden hasn't given America anything to look forward to. What's his plan? What's he working on? How is he managing our problems? How is he framing our future?
Americans aren't impressed with Biden and Harris, frankly, and they haven't given us much to go on.
😅😂🤣
Yes. Biden is doing wonders with the economy. Highest employment ever.
Its inconceivable, incomprehensible, unconscionable how any loyal patriotic American could in any wY support trump.
Your lack of cognitive empathy is frightening.
@@josephlandry8787 After eight years, and everything we have all witnessed, it's perfectly natural for empathy of both varieties to fail.
But at least 180M of the citizens do, alas, at their own peril!!!!!!
@@josephlandry8787 So please dear Sir enlighten us!
@@josephlandry8787 cognitive empathy? Seriously?
Election denial has nothing to do with "belief." It's knowing the truth and refusing to accept it.
its a wilflfulblindness, and its also code for that if you subtract all those black and hispanic votes, trump won, because the "others" aren't real americans in there eyes.
These are their beliefs, not mine for the record.
That's right. Well said. Very simple.
Exactly - and quite a few of those "believers" have said so.
Yes, and election denial is but one of the tools Republicans have that will lead us to Autocracy. I am so tired of preaching to my family that they are turning their grandchildren into serfs. I'm happy that my life is 7/8th spent and will not have lack.
No one was interested in what I saw on election night.
I don’t think he misspoke when he said Jan 7th. He was referring to the day after Jan 6th when everyone said that Trump had gone too far and there was talk at that point from some Republicans that they had to stop Trumpism. That’s what he was referring to, I think.
Yes, and that was the day they began to cave …it takes some time to decide how to handle a crisis…they chose badly!
@@pohkeee Yup.
Correct!😊
I would say that’s true for some of the times he said Jan 7th, but he also talked about the “shock troops as we saw on Jan 7th”. That time at least seems like he’s misspeaking.
He has done this in several videos I've seen/heard, though@@ResurgentVoice
Seems Germany learned a crucial lesson. They don't put up with lying from fascists anymore
. God bless them💕
They put up with lying from socialists (communists).
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you really don`t know much about Germany,do you to say,such foolish thing;look where Germany stands against the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza!
I WISH you were right. But as a German I am sad to say we are just coming back around with the AFD. WE are getting into a similar situation of power struggle in Germany as well.
Mitch Mc Connell not voting to impeach Trump was a real betrayal of his duty to the Constitution ! 😅
Mitch is beyond disgusting
He was supposed to be the leader of the Senate. He compromised his principals to support a traitor. He could have changed the trajectory of Trumps influence but thought Republicans could control him and use him to push their agenda. He failed in this thinking and the huge opportunity was wasted. He could have been a hero but all he was thing about was his goal of a Republican Supreme court.
So was not voting on Garland. Mitch cares about his power and that's about all. He wielded it too skillfully and got away with it so a great Politician, I guess.
Hale to the people who hold the founding father's to their word. Thank you, thank you thank you. Some of us are really hurting.
I appreciate anyone who admits they were wrong.
me too
He did not know what Trump was? Wow! I figured that out the very moment he opened his mouth after descending that escalator.
Cons are bit more naive than liberals, in general. They are well versed in data but make flawed conclusions from it.
My biggest problem with Stuart is he was always part of the problem! He was fine with his party appointing anti-VRA/anti-gay/anti-choice judges, and now he’s shocked that the leopards are eating his face! He opened the doors to today’s Republican Party. Give me a break!
I don’t know enough about
Stevens to comment, but I like him today.
I agree completely but he's also the ONLY conservative/Republican operative that owns up to his past, apologizes for his role in it and is attempting to make up for it. There's literally no other former right winger that does. At best you get never trumpers that admit the Republican party is toxic and that Trump broke it but will never admit their complicity in it.
@@honuman39 Good points you make here. I’ll give you that!
@@honuman39did it ever occur to you the fascist media monopoly lies and censors to trick you against your own interests????
did you mean ERA?
Anyone still trying to pretend the GOP are looking at 24, with anything other than bad intentions, needs to listen to this guy.
A peek into Project 2025 should sober even the most adamant denier.
@@jfrmfrjm Alito, Thomas, and other kochtivist seditionists, #LewisPowellManifesto, #AilesMemo, roger ratf**ker stone, et al
Why? He freely admits he despises half the population simply because they have differing political points of view. Such people should be shunned.
A voice of knowledge and common sense in a sea of madness. Thank you for your perspective and your analysis of the morass in which we now find ourselves. May your book be the success it deserves to be and may this video be seen by the masses and understood by most of them. Vote for continued growth and may common sense prevail. Vote Biden!💙💙💙💙
I don't think Biden knows what day it is....🥴
Dems under Biden/Obama created this sea of madness
@@alwaysovercomingbear4809well, he has people for that.
@@alwaysovercomingbear4809Brought to you by the propaganda arm of the Depublican party.
@@imacmill Vote RED !
45 minutes in:
There's nothing mysterious about people who've benefited from a system wanting to do away with that system after they've used it to amass personal fortunes.
07:48 - How do you tell both sides when one side is a lie ?
I had read about How Trump did business, befrej he ever ran for office, so I could never understand how anyone voted for him
The Lincoln Project is very good! 👍
Have read Stevens- it is not easy to do what he did, thinking of friends and family who twist themselves into pretzels and adopt random delusions to rationalize supporting trump. Deepest thanks to Stevens for his moral clarity
This is An amazing interview Stuart Stevens is Speaking The Truth on Many Level
Stuart sounds very tired during this conversation, his book tour must ne taking a toll on his energy. We're lucky to have him on democracy's side.
Dying democracy is taking it's toll
What if 51% of the population voted to exterminate the rest?
An expedient system? Yes , but don’t make any overtures to morality.
Agree he’s rambling winging it not organized and prepared
A lie is a lie! There is no “fair and balanced” in that. We should have just called a lie a lie, but we didn’t. And here we are now.
That was an extraordinary conversation, and both enervating and a sobering warning. Which way will we go?
"If we nominate Donald Trump, the Republican party will be destroyed, and we will deserve it"
Senator Lindsey Graham.
Oh, you still think Republicans are a party and not a cult of personality. Look again.
This is such a representation of the broken clock theory. Graham rarely says anything worth hearing, but it should never be forgotten that he said that. It was dead on then and it's dead on now.
Then Lindsey drank the Koolaid!👀
It's way worse for Lindsey because deep down inside Lindsey knows the truth!
He knew.
That was before Linsey fell in love.
VERRRY interesting interview. Thank you for airing it. I will consider Lincoln Project for my annual donation this year.
2016 was the end. We are now simply spiraling down the drain. We can not overcome this. The fact that we are still talking about this and nothing is being done is evidence that nothing will ever be done. Very sad
Wake up...hes currently charged with 91 felonies...been convicted of rape...kicked off the Colorado ballot...so we trying to stop him
At least we can go down fighting,and there is a chance that you're wrong. Biden did win in 2020.
Well, yes there is a plot lol Heritage Foundation's Project 2025
Thank you Stuart Stevens. Real patriot with a sense of history. Donated to LP.
The best part about the Lincoln Project - their videos that get right into the psyche of TFG.
Those videos are helping throw him off. They’re getting under his skin. He’s a very insecure person, as he should be since prison is likely inevitable.
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The problem with people getting information is the fact that everything has a paywall and many of the citizens you want to reach don’t have/make enough money to pay for a daily newspaper
Well when public goods become commodities, access to essential services is limited. Free markets have consequences, many of them anti-social or anti-democratic
@@Rnankn we dont even have free markets, we have markets that benefit from corporate welfare and loose regulations. Theyre not completely free markets, they are markets that are set up in a way that benefits the top, under the guise of that being "free markets"
@@Pro-DemocraticAdvocate
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@@Pro-DemocraticAdvocateThey are mature free markets.
@@alistairmackintosh9412 yeah sure and time shares are just variable rate investment vehicles. get that bs double speak jargon outta here, ive been around nearly 40 years and Ive got at least a basic knowledge of most important things in the world. Advertising and Political Campaign coded language only work when I'm distracted, otherwise my intuition for bullshit phrasing meant to hide the truth has been honed for years. George Carlin explained this to me as a teenager and I didnt take it to heart until a few years ago, but theres not much I can say he was wrong about if anything.
Mature free markets ignores the fact that the game was specifically rigged in order to benefit corporations dating back to when Lewis Powell wrote the infamous memo to the chamber of commerce, look it up. I don't wanna hear any euphemistic bs out of anyone unless they can explain to me what the implications of hte Powell memo were, because that memo essentially lays out the plan that was executed to indoctrinate Americans into believing the myths we do.
Republicans are now claiming that the left is indoctrinating people, even though the "left" is just telling it how it is for the most part. Obviously not everyone but there are no more right wing public intellectuals because the term is an oxymoron. They'll call themselves intellectuals but they're really anti intellectuals meant to sanitize the implications and the executions of the things in the Powell memo
Great reflections with an element of hope. Vote, vote, vote. Seriously.
Exactly vote RED
Not just vote. Vote blue 💙💙💙💙💙
straight up & down the ballet.
@@MJ-xi1mkYou done lost your mind.
@@LRCW1 Vote RED !
TRUMP 2024
To ensure our democratic future, funding public education is essential. An informed population, hopefully, will make wiser voters
That’s why republicans are trying to ruin our public school system.
Unfortunately, @doshie, that's not the direction that some states (e.g. FL, TX) are headed in terms of public education... in fact they're moving in the opposite direction!!!
Well, 'public education' obviously hasn't been good enough yet - or MAGAs must all have been drop-outs.
This is such a load...
@@hg2.
How so?
Fascinating truth telling here, we all need to listen..he is an insider, he knows voters.
We will not be out of this crises, unless we get the “oligarchy” under control, like Roosevelt did!!!
That's why I think it's our biggest threat. I call it a Theocratic Oligarchy, though.
How about putting in "... accepting the outcome of the election and peaceful transfer of power" into the presidential oath and tying it sharply to the 14th amendment section 3?
"trumpism is a hate movement"- too damn true
Powerful informative interview
Thanks!
I was born in '48. As such, I can remember most of the history he cites. However, I date the beginning of the slide, to the day Eisenhower acquiesced, in 1955, to changing the national motto from, "i pluribus unum" to "In God We Trust". He knew almost immediately that that had been a mistake. He simply didn't know how grave.
It's E not I pluribus unum and it means basically the same. I was born in 49 and raised a Christian.
@@lindavinesett8983
E pluribus unum = out of many, one.
@@impossiblejuan is right. It's zero reference to god.
@@lindavinesett8983_I was born in 49 and raised a Christian._
Which perfectly explains why you don't know what E Pluribus Unum means.
Kok-n-blu-balz to you, my christo-fascist friend: 🙏
@lindavinesett8983 thank you. It's been a while, since I last read it.
Finally someone that doesn't beat around the bush and goes straight to the point.
The first 'right' person to do this.
He and the other Lincoln Project guys helped bring this mess about. So F him no matter what.
Brilliant pre-mortem of US Democracy.
Stuart’s journey is mine - and his articulation of what the GOP has become is difficult to refute.
Thank you for this comment…it gives my hope.
Democrats praise deficit spending and practice it while Republicans condemn deficit spending and practice it. I agree with when he confesses that a right wing party no longer exists.
When Clinton submitted a balanced budget, he fid it without a single GOP vote..
Did what the GOP had demanded and PROMISED for decades. Republicans NEVER deliver on the goods and the Democrats DELIVER, sometimes, more in the past when they had more votes....
God bless Stuart Stevens
The idea of fair and balanced media is obviously not the way to go. The media should have a high fidelity to the facts and let the chips land where they may.
until the profit motive is taken out of the media model, we will continue to get the same both sidesish garbage from most of the major stations, sans a few.
In a very short space you managed to contradict yourself.
@@roughhabit9085 An accusation without support, hm... Your an algorithm.
Media is always on the side of the richest .
The question of balance- all of US face today…some of these dire warnings came true in 7/2024, sad.
Let's not forget what lead us up to this point of late stage capitalism.
Thank you! Great conversation. I am so tired of walking on egg shells, even in my own family. We need to speak up with truth.
Stay strong bro, we need let other know that Trump is a danger to our democracy
The Republicans have not had a platform in 8 years! What are you for?
There is a Republican platform published online. If you read it, it’s more frightening than no platform at all. It is divisive and clearly outlines that their way is the ONLY way. The Republican version of Mein Kampf.
Try FORTY.
What is right wing about "make America great again"?
@@SandyAZ1776that isn't a policy. The entire Republican platform is nothing more than a slogan
Racist saw a champion in Donald. It’s mostly about race and power.
GREAT session on an essential topic of the time. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏾
Thank You! Watching from Denmark and cheering on your democracy 🇩🇰🇺🇸
You're right that the reason for the voter's Trump vote just doesn't matter. We may never really "get it" and the way forward is to keep pushing for a better future. "It'll happen anyway." Thanks.
“Be for the future because it’s gonna happen anyway.” Let US not get creeped out by it.
whoever is on top, wants to stay there! duh! = close off the paths that they took to get on top! DUH!!
Thank you for all the great insights Stuart
Vengeance lies at the heart of fascism.
The permanent lie is the mechanism. The fuel to light the fires of resentment.
what a beautiful analysis-thank you
Why does America ignore its history with the Native Americans? They weren't given citizenship till the Twentieth Century.
I like this guy, Stuart. He makes a lot of sense.
5 minutes of continuous applause from Milwaukee 👏👏👏👏👏. WHAD, the VENERABLE public radio station of Madison WI, used to carry a speech of the day, which I've been missing for years. But now I've found a NEW source of greatness and I just SUBSCRIBED to this channel. MY LUCKY DAY.
Hurrah for PBS !
When you as public media repeat lies, you know are lies, you are complicit and guilty of lying to your public and should never be allowed to continue in any media narrative.
What are their lies?
The Republican motto. A sucker is born every minute
14 th amendment... "Applies, but doesn't apply..."
said the Colo judge,
that judged, but didn't judge...
Worth watching the whole thing. Very insightful discussion and I think worth buying the book. He says what many of us have thought, and tried to communicate, and then get shouted down because people don’t want to believe they’re racist.
At 46:02 the suggestion is one man presumably the dictator of Russia, decided to start the war against Ukraine. I’d argue the simmering war against Russia was by oligarchs, so the speaker is correct: American oligarchs are super important, the NATO proxy war a good example.
Prison for Trump is the healthiest way to democracy, thank you, Pepsee
Trumpism will continue even if/when tRump exits. It’s like an infection. However, the core of his cult might just fade back into obscurity.
I have to say ... it's refreshing to hear someone call it is what it is.
Why is voting voluntary? Why does America not have compulsory voting like Australia? You MUST vote in AUS !
Is it the 'free choice ' thing in USA or is it just set up by the parties to reinforce their positions and cohorts?
In AUS it is considered a duty to turn up at the voting booth, whether or not you like the candidates is irrelevent, you must get your name ticked off. Whether you actually vote or not, most people do, is not so much in question as it is considered a civil obligation.
We need that approach in the U.S.
I'd like to see it here too.
If someone can’t be bothered to vote, are they actually trying to learn about issues? Or are they going to vote on what they saw in a tv ad because they were compelled to show up?
They're pretty big on not changing things for the better. Voters would turn out to vote against mandatory voting lol
People are afraid of increasing homelessness, food insecurity, unaffordable healthcare etc. Why can't or won't the politicians see this? They need to tame the corporate and banking Oligarchs who are destroying the citizens and are now coming for the politicians. Wake up politicians on both sides.
A curious 'tell' from this man: throughout the interview he was very relaxed, and then, at the 54-minute mark, when an audience member asked him how we can be sure he and The Lincoln Project won't turn on Biden and the Democrats if a reasonable Republican candidate turns up, his demeanor turns 180 degrees into a defensive posture. And his answer to the question was B.S.
My brain hurts from trying to keep up with Stuart's depth of knowledge of political systems. It's giving me a new vocabulary -- one that meets the moment.
Dear Commonwealth Club - please interview a constitutional lawyer who can speak on separation of church and state, and also on whether we are a democratic republic vs a republic. 🙏
I'd like to hear a discussion about the fine points between republic and democratic republic
My understanding from what I’ve heard discussed by Tribe & Luttig is that this is a republic based on democratic principles. Not too complicated. Constitutional attorney Michael Luttig is quoted as saying “trump is a threat to American democracy”. Paraphrasing.
I really like the way he thinks the insurrection was January 7th.
MTG proposed we drop Constitutional Republic and call ourselves Christian Nationalist. They are desperate to drop the word democratic which implies participation of all citizens in their governance. They want to make it clear, not everyone, just white Christians. Now some Trump allies are talking about post constitutional America😳
It's not just Business people it farmers in lowa endorse Reb and they want welfare benefits and cheap fuel
At 33 min is when he really caught my attention.
He points out what it means to truly be an American 🇺🇸
I listened to them both talk of those lying all the time, conspiring to end America and thought YES - RIGHT ON. Then he said he meant Trump supporters but I said WAIT A MINUTE - THAT IS THE DEMS AND RINOS
Yes, "the reluctance to criticize these people"
This guy supported some of the worst of GOP.... too little too late. Winning was the name of their game, and we all end up losing. Even this man. We DESERVE Trump.
Some of you do.
I think the question is how did we ever think this was a democracy under its capitalist ruling plutocracy? The short answer, privilege
propaganda would be my short answer to it ..
The GOP base has never been lower in regard to the increased lack of virtuous behavior where all predetermined conventions and doctrines such as fairness in justice thrown away in 7/24.
A very honest and introspective man, I have great respect for Stuart Stevens. Everyone should read both of his books and listen to what he says. He’s a very experienced and wise man. (Just an aside, Stuart resembles an older Charlton Heston). Thanks for the interview and thanks for posting.
Lol that’s where the similarity ends .
Listening to Mr. Stevens helps me understand why Romney lost.
put it this way. Republicans need the old south to win. Just like the dems needed it a LONG time ago.
If this doesn’t scare the pants off of the sane American people then there is no hope for the USA 😰
Stuart nails it at 30:51 when he says that Trumpism is exhausting. It takes a lot of energy to be angry all the time.
Vote like your right to vote counts on it. Because it does.
I wish we'd stop using the term "America" when talking about things that are in reference to the United States. This is about the collapse of the US government order, not all of the American continent.
IT'S IN OUR FACES.. WHAT WILL WE DO? ....IS THERE REALLY ENOUGH NUTS THAT IT HAPPENS?
TRUMP 2024!!!!!