Bro is literally one of the best if not the best perimeter defender out there and if he steps up on the offensive end then maybe he will not only be on this list next year but be in the top 35
@@Castro4PF if we're comparing him just to guards I would unironically take white over anyone in the 75-100 range. easiest replacement is collin sexton, I don't even know the argument to have sexton ahead of him
Can’t wait to see you and the boys in Denver P. I was hoping all summer that y’all would pull up on ring night and y’all really are! I’m going to be wearing a Lauri Markkanen Finland jersey btw!
ESPN lists are always sus but it's not a terrible list by any means. Everyone has their personal bias. Shai being over lillard and book is quite hectic though. And desmond bane got mad disrespect. Thanks for the hour long content P.
You're confused. The description for Ja mentioned that the reason for his ranking is solely off-court, Ja when he plays is probably fringe top 10. However he's going to miss 25 games at the least, likely almost 40
Can’t wait to see what you got in store for the channel this year P 💯 you definitely need ya own pod tho fr we could listen to you bs about anything. Music, sports, life, ect shit would be dope fr
The Trae hate is getting ridiculous. Why is he treated as if he’s a 10 year vet who’s 30 years old?? Trae’s WORST YEAR is 26 and 10 on 43/34/89 leading his squad to the playoffs and giving the Celtics a battle in 6. That’s his worst year in the league!! And he’s below Lauri, Fox, Ingram, and all these other guys that just haven’t done nearly as much. There was nobody and no offensive system to take the pressure off him. This man Trae was carrying his injured ass squad to the playoffs last season putting up 28 and 10 on 46/38/90, how many guys can even do that?? The way this man is overlooked is honestly something I’ve never seen for a star player in the NBA. This guy was 23 when he did that. His second year he put up 29 and 9, most PPG for a sophomore in the modern era and we called it empty stats. But SGA averaging 30 on the 10th one season makes him top 10. Insane. A lot of people are about to look stupid by the end of this season. Ik you love the Knicks P but Trae and JB won’t even be a discussion by Christmas
I agree that he is over hated, and this list overall is just not great, but you wrote all that and not one time did you mention the other 50% of basketball. It’s not that he is an average defender. He isn’t even serviceable. He is actively bad on defense. Again, I’m not saying you’re wrong, there is just more to basketball than scoring.
Bruh, mfs were saying “luka didn’t make PO” but no one batted an eye when curry didn’t make the PO and he’s 2nd best ranked. The goal post changing for luka is crazy
@@dre7147 if that's true then it's time for Mia to give up on him because he just isn't good enough to cruise through the reg and ramp in the playoffs like Leonard for example he isn't a all star in the reg and folds in the playoffs so what's the point
I’m a hornets fan and the fact that melo is 48th… when in 36 games played he averaged 23-6-8… im not saying he should be top 10… but 48 is disrespectful
Wait hold on am I crazy P. No Jaden Mcdaniels, Derrick White, Nic Claxton, Devin Vassell, Alperen Sengun Keegan Murray or Reigning 6MOTY Malcolm Brogdon. But Yes to Sexton, Barnes, Grant Will, Conley, JOHN COLLINS and Mitch Rob. Like imo Capela over Claxton is crazy let alone one not making it and one being in the Seventies. What is ESPN doing because it definitely ain’t legalized
You brought up Buddy's three-point shooting and where he was ranked. He was slightly better in percentage than Klay Thompson but Steph and Klay shot a lot more threes per game than he did. If you take that into consideration the Golden State players we're still the best 3-point shooters in the league with Buddy being third. What's shocking about those statistics is that Damian Lillard shot much worse than all three of the players mentioned. He was shooting at only 37% last season.
@@ericg4626 because he only played 12 games, and we can all agree that the theoretical ceiling of wemby is higher regardless. Same with chet, we havent seen him play real games yet so the skies the limit for what he can hypothetically produce compared to cade who though is still getting better we’ve already seen some of him. theyre erring on the side of hype rather than predicting anyone to be a bust, and they simply think wemby and chet have higher ceilings.
I'm not arguing that Cade has a higher ceiling. Simply that he shouldn't have been dropped 35 spots or whatever due to an injury if they are taking potential into consideration.@@JubioHDX
Kinda off topic but one thing I don’t get is teams like the bulls holding onto these older players and trying to compete. Literally the team they traded with already looks better than them and it’s year 2 of the rebuild. So why not just blow it up now since they got their own picks again
My top10, I can debate on every player and their ranking behind it too 1. Jokic 2. Luka 3. Steph 4. Giannis 5. Tatum 6. Book 7. Kd 8. Hebron 9. Embiid 10. Dame
truly idiotic, giannis is easily better than both steph and luka and arguably joker but i understand because of the playoffs why you would have him above giannis. I'm interested to hear why you have 3 players above giannis
@@imabigboy9182 I’m not putting Giannis above luka & steph if he’s also coming to cancun after just 1 week having a superteam against a play in team. Offense matter a lot more than defense and although I do think he’s the best defender in the league he’s not a top 5-9 offensive player.
@@socialistbatman1211 I give more emphasis on offense than defense & game is all about putting ball in the basket and Giannis couldn’t do that against a play in team even being in a superteam
@@banimeclips10you’re contradicting yourself. How can you say Giannis is not a top 5-9 offensive player when he literally averaged 31 points per game. He came in that playoff series off of an injury and still averaged 23 points per game. If failing in the playoffs is what you’re basing the ranking off of, why have Luka ranked higher when he didn’t even make the playoffs. Also, the Bucks weren’t a super team lmao. Middleton was coming back from back to back injuries, he wasn’t even fully healthy so how can that be a superteam. Giannis is 100% ranked within the top 3. You sound like a casual
The reason Giannis is #1 over jokic is because Giannis plays both end of the floor. They both has won 2 MVPs and a finals MVP. But Giannis has won defensive player of the year. Other than last year, Giannis has been nba 1st team and all defensive 1st for 4 yrs straight...that's why ESPN got him 1st...
Jokic offense is million times better than giannis but there is no award for offensive player. And what's the use of dpoy when those dpoy players like him, gobert, jjj and lopez absolutely can't guard joker,so that award means shit
@@imabigboy9182 jokic, kd, booker, tatum, steph, luka even lillard is better and there is more, giannis can't shoot, giannis can't make a freethrow he is absolutely not top 5 offensive player in the nba. And his defense is overrated, lopez and jrue was his saviours, he is absolutely pathetic perimeter defender, without jrue this will be even more noticeable. And he absolutely can't stop jokic 1v1 so his dpoy means shit
AD is the best defender in the league, lopez is better defender in the league, embiid is better than giannis on defense, draymond is also better, gobert is better so no
Doncic is not #2, he is barely top 5 and i put him on 5 just because embiid is shit in playoffs. Jokic, giannis, steph, tatum, doncic, kd, embiid, butler, lebron, booker
I like the take on RJ once you said it I was like oh yeah he 100% right. RJ is a solid starter but from the jump we all attached all star and All NBA to him and he’s just not that. But a 20ppg guy is pretty nice in this league. His efficiency isn’t terrible either compare him to all the other non all star wings in the league and he’s in the top 3 if not the best one.
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Jaden McDaniels not making the list at all is actually insane
Wow didnt even notice that, thats insane
Facts he is the most underrated player in the league imo
Bro is literally one of the best if not the best perimeter defender out there and if he steps up on the offensive end then maybe he will not only be on this list next year but be in the top 35
Same with Derrick white
P giving us an hour long video is greatness 🔥
Grant Williams who got benched for Sam Hauser made the list but not Derrick White is crazy
Oh my gosh!!!! I got so distracted I didn’t even PEEP WTF!!!!
derrick white not being top 100 is wild
Not saying I disagree but who would u take off?
@@Castro4PF jokic
@@Castro4PFSteph curry
@@Castro4PF if we're comparing him just to guards I would unironically take white over anyone in the 75-100 range. easiest replacement is collin sexton, I don't even know the argument to have sexton ahead of him
@@Castro4PFDerrick White is better than Collin Sexton, Mike Conley, John Collins, Harrison Barnes, plenty of dudes on the list
Reaves being 66 and Devin Vassell not making the Top 100 at all is kind of insane...
Vassell does deserve to be here but Reaves has nothing to do with that lol had great playoff moments too
No bias
Devin for sure should be on the list, but Austin deserves to be on the list more
You need your own pod bro fr, could listen to an hour of you talking hoops every day🤣🔥
Not him putting Luka at #6 and no one acting like that’s insane
I like watching these older videos seeing how far scottie came this season
That lil anfernee section was dope i love to see real ball knowers.
Can’t wait to see you and the boys in Denver P. I was hoping all summer that y’all would pull up on ring night and y’all really are! I’m going to be wearing a Lauri Markkanen Finland jersey btw!
Also, no Jaden McDaniels is crazy to me.
Perfect timing P I needed some good hoop talk for this road trip 🤝🏽🤝🏽
might as well start The Pierre Podcast at this point lol
W podcast in Denver.I was there for the nuggets game,and I was excited when I saw through the wire
Can’t watch this rnrn I’m at the gym but trust P I’ll be back, love the longer form content where it’s just you talking about wtv. Keep it up yo
Love the pod, love the group but I really love P’s solo vids!
Man you Kenny Dmills and TTW be saving me on my commute to and from work thank you P!
ESPN lists are always sus but it's not a terrible list by any means. Everyone has their personal bias. Shai being over lillard and book is quite hectic though. And desmond bane got mad disrespect.
Thanks for the hour long content P.
P dropping bangers 🫡💯
If Ja was the 35th best player in the league, he wouldn't get the scrutiny and hate that he does. Absolutely deserves to be higher
You're confused. The description for Ja mentioned that the reason for his ranking is solely off-court, Ja when he plays is probably fringe top 10. However he's going to miss 25 games at the least, likely almost 40
Can’t wait to see what you got in store for the channel this year P 💯 you definitely need ya own pod tho fr we could listen to you bs about anything. Music, sports, life, ect shit would be dope fr
Great video, one thing that I was taken a back by was seeing you use Microsoft Edge
Saw the whole vid p , keep grinding 🔥🔥
The Trae hate is getting ridiculous. Why is he treated as if he’s a 10 year vet who’s 30 years old??
Trae’s WORST YEAR is 26 and 10 on 43/34/89 leading his squad to the playoffs and giving the Celtics a battle in 6.
That’s his worst year in the league!! And he’s below Lauri, Fox, Ingram, and all these other guys that just haven’t done nearly as much. There was nobody and no offensive system to take the pressure off him.
This man Trae was carrying his injured ass squad to the playoffs last season putting up 28 and 10 on 46/38/90, how many guys can even do that?? The way this man is overlooked is honestly something I’ve never seen for a star player in the NBA. This guy was 23 when he did that.
His second year he put up 29 and 9, most PPG for a sophomore in the modern era and we called it empty stats. But SGA averaging 30 on the 10th one season makes him top 10. Insane.
A lot of people are about to look stupid by the end of this season. Ik you love the Knicks P but Trae and JB won’t even be a discussion by Christmas
big fax
You could also argue his play is the reason his team hasnt been as good as they can be
I agree that he is over hated, and this list overall is just not great, but you wrote all that and not one time did you mention the other 50% of basketball. It’s not that he is an average defender. He isn’t even serviceable. He is actively bad on defense. Again, I’m not saying you’re wrong, there is just more to basketball than scoring.
@@socialistbatman1211 not really, especially if you actually watch the team
Devin vassell not being here hurts me
makes sense he was great when he played but he only played like 20-30 games
@@shosh5806 Ik cade Cunningham is better but bro played 12 games last year, and since this list is projecting I think devin should easily be here
Vassell was awesome last season
P in his consistency bag
Claxton not making the list is wild
You can tell he’s a Knick fans still bringing up Mitchell at the 50s haha nothing but love though
Bruh, mfs were saying “luka didn’t make PO” but no one batted an eye when curry didn’t make the PO and he’s 2nd best ranked. The goal post changing for luka is crazy
Steph made the play in that year tho at least
@@Jalenciagaaa bro got 2chances to make playoff and still didn’t. You hyping that up??
@@banimeclips10he did tho??
@@chardrive really hyping 2losses 😭😂😭
Awesome video P!
All that football stuff cool but this what I'm here for I can't wait for this season
Perfect timing just about to eat
An hour long vid? W!
Jimmy takes the reg season seriously his game just suits the playoffs more
Stop it Jimmy does not take the regular season seriously lol. He misses games and doesn't try hard enough that's the facts lol.
@@dre7147 if that's true then it's time for Mia to give up on him because he just isn't good enough to cruise through the reg and ramp in the playoffs like Leonard for example he isn't a all star in the reg and folds in the playoffs so what's the point
I’m actually getting tired of them tanking rookies in general, like I understand it’s a projection but if you haven’t played you shouldn’t be ranked
Shoutout to P man, never would I ever imagine someone giving Darius Garland the respect he deserves
YO needed this. Playing the mw3 beta rn
We need more hoop grids
Love from argentina P you the goat
I don’t even like ranking players anymore cause it can go either way, but imma show love to this vid regardless
Needed a video to eat my food thanks P
So much respect for you p
No sengun?😭😭 the Houston hate is laughable
P we need videos on your online myleague with pg Hali and the rest of the crew
Common p W
Thank you P. Curry either 2 or 3. 5 is wild. Then again they put him at the same spot after winning a chip 😂
P been in his BAG!!!!
P repeating some shit slower and slower whenever he don’t agree😂
These rankings are trash wtf espn is a disaster
The Giannis disrespect is crazy
No claxton, and McDaniels on a top 100 list is a fireable offence to whoever made this list
as a sixers fan i will be sick if we trade embiid for rj as the young piece
I’m a hornets fan and the fact that melo is 48th… when in 36 games played he averaged 23-6-8… im not saying he should be top 10… but 48 is disrespectful
Wait hold on am I crazy P. No Jaden Mcdaniels, Derrick White, Nic Claxton, Devin Vassell, Alperen Sengun Keegan Murray or Reigning 6MOTY Malcolm Brogdon. But Yes to Sexton, Barnes, Grant Will, Conley, JOHN COLLINS and Mitch Rob. Like imo Capela over Claxton is crazy let alone one not making it and one being in the Seventies. What is ESPN doing because it definitely ain’t legalized
Banger vid P 👌
No Derrick White is crazy mannnn
no Jaden McDaniels, White and Vassell is crazy
You seem to be ignoring the fact that this is supposed to be their spot at the end of this upcoming season.
KAT gonna prove u wrong p. He will make it work offensively.
You brought up Buddy's three-point shooting and where he was ranked. He was slightly better in percentage than Klay Thompson but Steph and Klay shot a lot more threes per game than he did. If you take that into consideration the Golden State players we're still the best 3-point shooters in the league with Buddy being third. What's shocking about those statistics is that Damian Lillard shot much worse than all three of the players mentioned. He was shooting at only 37% last season.
no siakam is wild
Great vid
For me booker not being top 10 is a joke there reason was because beal is there so it will limit him like wtf is that its based on last season
yooo P i seen yall was talkin bout a 2k league im tryna join bro frrrr ima give you and mike a run fa yall money🤣
Derrick White not being on this list is a sin
P can give us an hour video on 90-100 n im watching it
Lamelo finna go crazy I can’t wait ppl too quite on him
Dropping Cade down because of injury and then putting Chet and Wemby ahead of him is the most ironic and back handed thing I’ve ever seen.
wemby hasnt gotten injured in the league, though. but youre right on chet
Yeah but they're going off of potential. So how does Cade drop even though he has insane potential.@@JubioHDX
@@ericg4626 because he only played 12 games, and we can all agree that the theoretical ceiling of wemby is higher regardless. Same with chet, we havent seen him play real games yet so the skies the limit for what he can hypothetically produce compared to cade who though is still getting better we’ve already seen some of him. theyre erring on the side of hype rather than predicting anyone to be a bust, and they simply think wemby and chet have higher ceilings.
I'm not arguing that Cade has a higher ceiling. Simply that he shouldn't have been dropped 35 spots or whatever due to an injury if they are taking potential into consideration.@@JubioHDX
Kinda off topic but one thing I don’t get is teams like the bulls holding onto these older players and trying to compete. Literally the team they traded with already looks better than them and it’s year 2 of the rebuild. So why not just blow it up now since they got their own picks again
Also cannot wait to see year 3 evan Mobley since some people think he had a sophomore slump 😂
This video cool and all but next time P should be oiled up with Sherman.
"they try to cover their ass with 'he could exceed'" I'm dead fax
My top10, I can debate on every player and their ranking behind it too
1. Jokic
2. Luka
3. Steph
4. Giannis
5. Tatum
6. Book
7. Kd
8. Hebron
9. Embiid
10. Dame
truly idiotic, giannis is easily better than both steph and luka and arguably joker but i understand because of the playoffs why you would have him above giannis. I'm interested to hear why you have 3 players above giannis
Luka and Steph over Giannis is ridiculous bro
@@imabigboy9182 I’m not putting Giannis above luka & steph if he’s also coming to cancun after just 1 week having a superteam against a play in team. Offense matter a lot more than defense and although I do think he’s the best defender in the league he’s not a top 5-9 offensive player.
@@socialistbatman1211 I give more emphasis on offense than defense & game is all about putting ball in the basket and Giannis couldn’t do that against a play in team even being in a superteam
@@banimeclips10you’re contradicting yourself. How can you say Giannis is not a top 5-9 offensive player when he literally averaged 31 points per game. He came in that playoff series off of an injury and still averaged 23 points per game.
If failing in the playoffs is what you’re basing the ranking off of, why have Luka ranked higher when he didn’t even make the playoffs. Also, the Bucks weren’t a super team lmao. Middleton was coming back from back to back injuries, he wasn’t even fully healthy so how can that be a superteam.
Giannis is 100% ranked within the top 3. You sound like a casual
I know he just won the finals but are we really saying that player for player Murray is better than JB. I think JB is a couple spots low.
So much wrong wit this list. I know everyone won’t agree & I’m not picky but gah damnn some of these are ridiculous 😂
Yo p I got that same hat 🔥
Ik kawhi hasnt been healthy but 24 is disgusting man
Bro got the worlds worst top 5 lmfao
If you projecting Giannis def should be number 1
seeing the bullshit in this list just reminded me the #1 purpose of ESPN or BR or whoever doing rankings is just to get clicks and impressions
W video
pierre forever an okc hater😂😂
And I’m not taking Embiid or Tatum over Luka ain’t even going there
Let’s go P
Aint no way Tatum is better than KD
Pascal is not above sabonis man….. you cannot even argue after last season
The reason Giannis is #1 over jokic is because Giannis plays both end of the floor. They both has won 2 MVPs and a finals MVP. But Giannis has won defensive player of the year. Other than last year, Giannis has been nba 1st team and all defensive 1st for 4 yrs straight...that's why ESPN got him 1st...
Giannis defense is miles better than Jokic
Jokic offense is million times better than giannis but there is no award for offensive player. And what's the use of dpoy when those dpoy players like him, gobert, jjj and lopez absolutely can't guard joker,so that award means shit
@@petarpavic112 excuse me? Giannis is easily a t5 offensive player in the league, whilst being arguably the best and most versatile defender itl.
@@imabigboy9182 jokic, kd, booker, tatum, steph, luka even lillard is better and there is more, giannis can't shoot, giannis can't make a freethrow he is absolutely not top 5 offensive player in the nba. And his defense is overrated, lopez and jrue was his saviours, he is absolutely pathetic perimeter defender, without jrue this will be even more noticeable. And he absolutely can't stop jokic 1v1 so his dpoy means shit
AD is the best defender in the league, lopez is better defender in the league, embiid is better than giannis on defense, draymond is also better, gobert is better so no
Tatum and KD is not above Embiid. You have to factor in the mvp and the last three seasons hater
Dlo?
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1. Jokic
2. Doncic
3. Curry
4. KD
5. Giannis
Doncic is not #2, he is barely top 5 and i put him on 5 just because embiid is shit in playoffs. Jokic, giannis, steph, tatum, doncic, kd, embiid, butler, lebron, booker
I like the take on RJ once you said it I was like oh yeah he 100% right. RJ is a solid starter but from the jump we all attached all star and All NBA to him and he’s just not that. But a 20ppg guy is pretty nice in this league. His efficiency isn’t terrible either compare him to all the other non all star wings in the league and he’s in the top 3 if not the best one.
Lets go!
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L no way tatum over luka
Agreed 👍🏼
Jokic is #1. This needs to be corrected.
Tatum and embiid over Luka? Jus say you racist 🫵🏽😹
Did I inspire this video lol (talking about me @ ing you on Twitter)
LaMelo is better than Hailburton.
I’m taking jt over embiid every time