They really dropped the ball on this one! He murders his entire family the gets death penalty. That gets downgraded to insanity, then he's free in 7 1/2 years! I'm sorry insane or not, if you're capable of murdering your entire family, seven being children. You've committed the most heinous crime & death isn't justice but close enough. The fact that he went free & remarried with 7 more kids is just wrong!
Well, he was found legally insane at the time of the murders, which does change things significantly. Of course most people don't see a difference, but that plea is there for a reason.
This happens often in our global society. Women are seen as incubators that breed more humans for these guys to run through, terrorize & ultimately kill. So long as the government can profit from their crimes, your births (and deaths alike) - THEY DO NOT CARE. I wish women would realize this. You are all only pawns- used to create more people.
I don't understand how murderers practically get away with their crimes. Why should he be able to go back to living after 7 years? His victims didn't get to!
I’ve heard several times that adults who murder their own children get seemingly light sentences. Don’t know why it is but in my mind the punishment should be harsher for that reason. What irks me is that, yes, she was perhaps tired of her husband and wanted something different but why did she turn the kids on him?
That is unfortunately the plea deal of not guilty by reason of Insanity and to keep people from filing that Plea bargan to try to get off on a serious crime and only serve a few years in the state hospital and be free again. The process of that has changed in several of the states that still do those plea bargaining on serious crimes. Those people are put on SSI with a assigned Payee who receives and handles all of their SSI payment checks, the hospital or treatment facility gets to keep their entire back pay check if thousands for first getting SSI and only has to give the person who is declared crazy $40 dollars a month of whatever amount of money that person receives from SSI they if they behave, follow rules, ECT may after several years end up with a supervised apartment where the counselor performs inspection of the apartment on that person once a week and that person may have to go to daily group meetings and basically be in a program of sorts for the rest of their lives and it is to make life such a intrusive inconvenience caused by the state tjat people will regret that Plea deal and try to be declared competent to proceed with trial and actually do the prison time for the crime instead of the inconvenient daily grind of the state having them on a short leash and life being no freedom or fun for the rest of their lives and it is that was to avoid people copping a NGI or ICP to get away with a serious crime and only serve a few years and be free? Not any more! I dont know the particulars of all the states but it is now a shit show dor tbose who think that NGI plea will get tjem off... no a supervised life being tested on with new anti psychotic medications and daily group meetings and basically be a pawn of the state for life now.
The most dangerous time for a Domestic Violence victim is when you leave the perpetrator. In 1971 the Australian myth of the 'good bloke driven to desperation' was well and truly embedded in the culture. In 2022 it has only moved forward a little from this. There is no excuse for murdering your family.
Coffee house crime has a story where a woman killed 57 people in an arson. Many psycho traits are developed in early childhood due to neglect and abuse by the primary caregiver... Yet, women constantly crave "bad boys" and society doesn't shame them for perpetuating the abuse cycle. Stop blaming men.
This issue with this story, is that it is told from Clifford's perspective which posits him as the victim. My mum was friends with Sharon and Christine and would stay at their house. She was terrified of Clifford, as was the whole family. He was not some 'loving father'. When she heard there was a murder in the area, she knew who it was straight away. He was a paranoid psycho.
Absolutely. It's like the narrator sucked up the misogynistic attitude of the Australian police force at the time - which was, and often sadly still is, pretty bad.
I was thinking exactly that when i heard the introduction. It absolutely doesn´t sound like a one-time-escalation of violence and i very much doubt a woman would make her husband leave after decades and 7 children together if there hadn´t been a serious reason.
@@sarahwolfmayr2116 B.S. As an over 50 gay progressive liberal I'd spent my entire adult life advocating for women's rights and against misogyny, and then I (along with my brother) became a victim of my brother's ex, who is one of the most vile reprehensible evil malicious selfish self-centered absolute garbage of a woman you'll ever know (or maybe you wouldn't because she can put on quite the front, and only once you get to know her better do you realize just exactly what kind of person she is). She spent years working to alienate the kids (my niece and nephew) from their father, though he would never talk crap about her in front of them, she regularly worked to tear him down in front of the kids (I learned this from the kids themselves who confided in me about how she would say terrible and false things to them about their father). Still, I would only see her 'nice' side, despite my brother warning me that she was two-faced, and even knowing that she had CPS called on her on several occasions for some fairly serious offenses that endangered the kids lives. She's an alcoholic and bi-polar. My brother doesn't like dealing with her so he's basically washed his hands of her and the kids who distanced themselves from my brother despite his being a very nice, if somewhat aloof, father. I maintained contact and a relationship with my niece and nephew who adored me. Little did I know she was working behind the scenes to alienate even me from the kids. My nephew did tell me that she wasn't particularly nice talking about me behind my back. Well.. turns out the moment she saw a vulnerability, the slightest of cracks in my great relationship with my niece and nephew, she struck in full force to drive a wedge between them and me. Since the kids live with her, she can terrorize them with threats of her going ballistic if they don't do what she says. Meanwhile my nephew (with the help of his terrible teenage pals who I had issues with and was the crack his c'nt of a mother took advantage of) refuses to speak with me (with her encouragement) despite years of a great relationship and friendship between us. And my niece who worships her brother does whatever he says she should do. So yeah... I believe what is being said about how reprehensible this woman was toward her husband. In fact I've changed my attitude. I don't think you'll find anything more wicked evil and conniving than a woman, especially one that wants to monopolize the kids, and has gotten what she's wanted out of the man. The filthy scumbag that is my brother's ex changed her attitude toward him once she had the kids she wanted. And given her abuse of them psychologically, it's NOT about them, it's about her and what SHE wants. Hopefully karma catches up to her one day an she endures all the pain, suffering, and misery she's dished out.
He's a skinny faced alcoholic, from a time when the man was king of the castle. And clearly someone doesn't like women and I never read multiple paragraph rants either.
@@EmeraldViewfunny; what you’re describing is a bad experience with a woman. Us women have had multiple horrible and dangerous experiences with men, that’s why men are the most evil dangerous demons walking earth. No one cares about your sob story, same way no one cares about ours. But read the room dummy, advocating for men’s rights in the comments of a family annihilator video isn’t it. There are plenty of other areas of the internet where you can hate us as evil bc you can’t hang out with your niece.
These human cockroaches only see other people as objects, as possessions, not as humans with a life of their own. He would rather destroy "his" objects than lose them. He didn't care about their suffering.
Not by any means justifying this assholes actions. The wife having an an affair is one thing, but turning the kids against him is another. He was not welcome by the wife to spend Father's Day, and the narrator said the kids were "cool" towards him when he was visiting. Plus, it seems the sister in law shunned him also. But no doubt, he should have received life without parole.
@@peterw.kocsis2520 genuine question: why are you so sure the mother turned them against him? First of all, that piece of information was probably reported by Clifford, and Clifford only, since all the kids were dead, so we don’t know if it’s true or if he lied to build up a defense. Second, even if it’s true, children may have had their good reason to be cold to their dad. He ended up brutally killing them, I feel there is at least a chance that he showed violent or disturbing behaviors even before the killing spree.
@@peterw.kocsis2520 He's obviously the kind of low life who would murder a child ... Because he did murder children. So maybe him being such a weirdo sadistic POS had something to do with the rest of the family despising him, wife included. Think there might be a connection there?
She told them lots of lies about their dad and alienated them from him. They believed it, and he fulfilled the expectations she indoctrinated them with.
Australia seems to have one of the worst Justice systems ever. How can someone annihilate his family and only serve 7 1/2 years?! I’ve seen many other cases of monsters getting insanely light sentences. I feel for all of the families who never were given proper justice for their loved ones.
Being a Brit and knowing our pathetic system I can agree with this. I’m always shocked at Australian sentencing and think “wow, I thought the U.K. was bad”.
1) you are comparing the legal system of the 70's to the legal system of today. things are different now. 2) it was a LOT easier to get off on an insanity then that it is now. and back then once you were declared "sane" you were just free and clear, that is NOT the case now. look back to cases here in the US. even here the sentencing has changed drastically since the 70's, being able to get off on an insanity plea is almost impossible bc psychologists & psychiarists are taken seriously. you look at a case like his... you would think this guy HAS to be insane he just killed his enire family, regardless of what a professional would say. nowdays, a team of psychologists & psychiatrists from both sides are going to say noo/ yes he crazy as a lune/ he's as sane as they come. and we as a jury will decide if he's crazy. but we also know now that people can just be purely evil. back then, ( having lived it, ) you just didn't see that much if ever. that's why serial killers could so easily take advantage of people. heck we didn't even lock our doors at night!
Unbelievable. Not even a year per murder. There are many, many people in jail here in the US for 15+ years just for having 3 ounces of marijuana and this dude gets a slap on the wrist and a new wife and family for mass murder. F'ed up.
I've heard this BS before - person kills their kids because they "didn't want to lose them." He DIDN'T love his kids or his wife. He was ANGRY because he lost CONTROL over his family. This was all done in an act of revenge. It's shameful he was released after such a short sentence... His new family could have easily suffered the same fate!
Excellent coverage. Much love of your content. Other interesting Australian cases that dont get much coverage is that of Anthony Waterlow and Malcolm Naden if you want to look into them.
You must believe in exceptions such as self defense, rape, etc-right? Example: A child gets kidnapped, tortured and raped repeatedly only to be murdered. The killer gets released on a technicality, so the deceased child's parent chooses to get justice by taking it into their own hands (when it's not questionable who the guilty party was) and removes the scumbag from this world ensuring no other child would suffer the same fate. Do you believe the parent should get the death penalty or life in prison or would you agree while they are guilty for that murder, they shouldn't have to serve any time because their suffering should count as time served? What if someone breaks into your hom, brandishing a weapon and is aggressively advancing upon you so you grab your trusty 22 (preloaded what 10 hollow point rounds), announce "the cops have already been called, they're on their way and this is your only opportunity to turn around and leave before I unload this clip. Undeterred, he continues faster now and as promised you open fire and shoot to kill. Should you get life behind bars or a medal for successfully defending your family? My point is that every situation should be tried on a case by case basis and not all murders/killers aka someone who has taken a life should be given the same punishment. In this case, the man in the video, deserves to have been locked up alone in a small cell with old family videos playing on a loop over so he would've been psychologically tortured with the faces, voices of his deceased children taunting him as a constant reminder of what he he callously took from the world, all because his wife didn't want him to be her spouse any longer. Death would've been too easy and he claimed to have wanted it, so instead, he should have been forced to live and be haunted daily by the children he claimed to have loved. Instead this prick was declared 'insane' (to insane to pay for his crimes but not insane enough to keep him locked away from society of which he is/was clearly a threat. Now he's got a new wife and family?!? Heaven help her if she ever chooses to leave him! And Australian's think America's nuts, LOL. (We are, definitely but apparently we're not alone in this)
Any man this evil to kill his own children, would be the last word I take of that man.. she or the children are not here to tell their side of the story
Exactly and it was disappointing that DC have so much credence to the affair theory when there was no proof at all. It’s more likely he was controlling/abusive and wanted to kill them all rather than them living free, like most family annihilators.
I was going to say the same thing. The narrative repeated here could only have come from him and/or his associates (lawyers, friends, etc.) I’ve noticed over time this tendency to believe what domestic murderers say AFTER they’ve murdered. So this a&&hole escaped the hangman - fine, whatever. When the death penalty can’t be applied here in the U.S., LWOP (Life WithOut Parole) is usually the alternative. This Aussie family annihilator, however, ended up doing fewer than 8 YEARS IN PRISON? What the #^@£ kind of “justice” is that, for krissakes? Secondly, what kind of woman hooks up with a man who slaughtered his previous family?
He was. My mum was friends with the family. It was 1971 so the press made out that he was a 'family man driven to it by a cheating wife'. He was a paranoid, controlling, abusive man.
@@tangiblelearning our neighbour was an alcoholic journalist. Definitely going to be sympathetic with a drinking mate. I'm guessing SA was no different.
As gruesome as these cases are, I have to say that your videos are beautiful and so well done. Your voice, the tone, the mysterious yet melancholic theme song, the transition between pictures. Just beautiful.
His second wife and her children were aware that he'd killed his first wife, his reason: he caught her cheating. The wife knew about the other murders, but her children didn't.
Another strange case I was unfamiliar with. And another insanely lenient sentence for a killer of multiple people, which is puzzling to most Americans who follow these crime stories.
Really? So you are also surely very ‘puzzled’ at the many, many criminals who are let out of prison on parole having only done half of their sentence for murder, rape etc. often against the advice of psychologists and then go on to commit another murder, rape or whatever. I follow quite a few RUclips channels and it seems this happens a LOT in America. Also, in America it is also completely lawful to commit a murderer to a mental facility who is deemed insane at the time, and treat him/her back to health and release that person back into the community, so I’m thinking there must be lots of puzzled people there who don’t know the law. No surprises there.
Same here I've never heard of it either...how the hell could he kill his children his wife his sister in law and her baby and be out in such a short time...our court system is well and truly broken 😡
I actually live near where this happened and I hadn't heard of it until a few years ago. I actually spoke to a relative of Clifford's either on facebook or here on youtube.
Can you imagine going through your dead parents' old belongings and suddenly finding out your step father annihilated his first wife and kids? Talk about having skeletons in the closet...😜
Ugh, why add a jokey smiley face after that comment ? These are real people who were killed. That shit is not funny and doesn’t warrant levity. Creepy.
@@Tsumami__ we laugh because it’d be unexpected. If you don’t laugh you’ll cry. There’s nothing wrong with a little levity to help people handle very dark situations- and you don’t know this commenter or what they’ve been through.
I don't think she was cheating. To me it sounds like he was an abusive drunk and when she finally got the courage to leave him, he killed her. It's domestic abuser 101.
@@brandyjean7015 what rumour snowflake, is anything I wrote not true? From what I remember there was an older child with that surname who was the wife’s child but not Bartholomew’s. Or is that just a rumour.
@@jillgarlick2122 the wife did have an infant from her 1st marriage, but that child's name is not included in the list of victims. Either that was the child that was lost in infancy or had already moved out from the family home. The eldest child victim was their eldest son Neville. The only 2 victims with the Keane name are Winni & her infant son. May you learn to graciously accept new knowledge; without the unnecessary name calling.
Wow what a horrible case. I am in shock. So much of the story doesn't add up. Absolutely horrific that Clifford murdered the family and got such a ridiculous sentence. Why not life in a mental facility since he was deemed insane?? The fact that he remarried and was around children again is insane in itself!
Because you cannot legally be ‘sentenced’ to life in a mental facility! You are put there to be treated, and if you ‘recover’ then you are let out. He was obviously not a threat to society as he didn’t kill anybody else.
@@jillgarlick2122 There was a case in Canada where the guy who beheaded another guy on a greyhound bus was declared not guilty by reason of insanity and he's out walking around now. That wasn't that long ago either.
@@leelee2350 The psychiatrists must have deemed him to be fit for reintroduction into society. I don’t know, why don’t you find out. if he was insane at the trial then he would have been sent to a facility for the insane. They are not locked up forever, it is all within the law. If you want insane people to betrayed like non insane people and locked up for the rest of their lives you need to lobby your government and legislature. Probably wafting your time, but if you feel strongly enough about it that is what you should do.
How can so many lives be worth 7 measly years. Sane or insane, that should be a life sentence in prison/mental facility. I know people who served more time for 2 bags of weed. The system is a joke.
Sounds like Canada. A life it nothing but hit a cop or even show disrespect or a bag or two of weed or armed robbery and you r in trouble. Killing someone. No big deal.
I'm not sure it's fair to say that the system is a joke using this case as an example. Even though the vast majority of people would like to see killers get either the death penalty or life in prison, being deemed temporarily insane can be a legitimate thing and does carry a different sentence. Let's say, for example, that your son or brother dealt with severe mental illness and committed a serious crime. After getting medical intervention, he ended up much more mentally healthy. Should he face the same sentence as a mentally stable drug dealer or gang member, for example?
@@VioletJoy Please. Hundreds of millions of people battle mental illnesses (myself included) and 99.99% of us don't go on murder sprees. No one is capable of seeing the future, so where is the guarantee that murderers like these won't do it again? Being locked up and taken care of in a prison or mental facility (usually paid with tax money) is already an act of human mercy, considering any other animal who injures or kills a person gets put down immediately to prevent future harm. Did those kids he brutalized get mercy? No. They are forever gone and rotting underground while he gets to prance around and live happily. A system that cares more about perpetrators than victims (and potential future victims) is trash. End of story.
This is why being found insane as the reason is a very careful process in all the Commonwealth. Depending on the cause of the "insanity" if it is treatable with medication like many psychotic episodes of untreated schizophrenia can be, stability can be achieved quite quickly. The man Vince Li in Canada an immigrant attacked a cross-country bus passenger, killing him and eating his face before police stopped him. He was released in 4 years from forensic psych on medications. He was wchizophrenic nevr rusgnosed in his home country, became psychotic, and killed. Now he is free in society on medications.
How in the world does it go from possible death sentence, to life in prison to 7 years? That was a massacre and he was out in 7 years. Thankful that he didn't kill anyone else. I guess his wife leaving him really did make him go mad. Jesus
Death by hanging... or released after 7 years. The Aussie justice (& political) system has always been this weird mix of old colonial and hideously misguided liberalism.
I can't fatham how someone could wipe out their entire family like that to look st your own flesh and blood in the eye and murder them in cold blood is a truly twisted thing to do i always find it difficult hearing these sort of cases especially knowing children are among the victims i just don't understand how someone could do such an awful thing there's simply no forgiving that.
That can definitely point toward temporary insanity, which is what happened in his case. It's heartbreaking to hear about anything bad happening to children and can't imagine much worse than being killed by your own father. What a horrible way to die. 💔
@@VioletJoy not at all, but the useless anger in some of the comments because of ‘the judge’, ‘the judicial system’ etc. etc. who just followed the law should be directed at the people who whilst also following the law, were the ones who got him committed due to being insane, cured him and promoted his release into the community 7 years later. An insane person cannot be put in prison or put to death in a civilised society, and as it turned out he wasn’t a threat to the public subsequent to his release.
@@jillgarlick2122 I appreciate you explaining your viewpoint. I was confused because I didn't see any mention of the judge or judicial system here in this comment string.
I don’t understand conscience-less criminals in general. But in that pathetic group, I understand family annihilators least of all. I can find no sliver of understanding or compassion for their egotistical narcissistic evil. Sad terrible well done story you .
What type of judge would sign the release of a man who was originally given death, commuted to life, and more importantly “capable” of mass murder; respectfully, 7 innocent children? This story is not only horribly tragic but incomprehensible!
For me, the excuses of temporary insanity, or the consumption of illicit drugs, are NOT reasons to take other people's lives and are grounds for totally removing those criminals from Society permanently, preferably not by giving them free rent, meals, laundry entertainment and study facilities during the time they get "life" imprisonment; which doesn't seem all that long these days !!
I usually like these videos but i didn’t like all the unproven bias in the narrative against heather, with a veteran that may or may not exist and the murderers letter didn’t even mention him but blames Winny? Something’s not adding up and it’s disappointing. Heather nor the kids can’t tell their side of the story and she’s blamed now. The whole “good man suddenly snaps” is a Hollywood fantasy and normal non violent men don’t just jump to killing their wives and then their entire extended families.
Because these are driving factors behind what he did. She did what she did the children did what they did and then he did what he did. There are explanations into what drives someone to do things. Those explanations don’t need your approval or acceptance, or mine or anyone else’s. Not really that hard to comprehend.
@@plynn136 exactly it’s scary how people in these comments just take the murderers word for it even though the supposed veteran affair partner has no name and can’t be confirmed, and the murderer didn’t even mention this affair he was supposedly so pissed about in his letter. Like we’re so quick to demonize victims it’s pathetic
It's the inherent sexism that still persists today that I hate the most. I mean, how many modern murders do you hear of because she supposedly cheated? Even if she truly did, there's no reason to kill someone that is reasonable.
@@offlinegirl5956 agree, on videos with a female victim who cheated there will always be men in the comments saying she got what she deserved but you don’t see that energy when men cheat and then are murdered.
Wow that’s a crazy ass story and very very heartbreaking!! He killed even the damn baby! He’s going to burn in hell for his horrible chooses. R.I.P. to all 10 lives that was taken that day! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
My family is so bad I’d have been better off had I been raised by wolves but I didn’t kill them. Did look into piling them in a rocket and firing it into the sun but the cost was prohibitive so I settled for moving 2500 miles away.😊
Really? So you're telling me, im..hold on, let me get this straight. So a person isn't supposed to kill their family? How can I believe you though? You're just some person on the internet so I know you're not a credible source. I'm going to have to call my attorney and get a 2nd opinion cause I'm not so sure I believe you.
Yup, didn't expect any diffrent from society. Blame the MURDERED woman for ???? Instead of focusing on the killer husband. Still happens these days too.
"He loved his children too much to leave them behind" sorry, what? I notice he had no trouble preserving his own self--the least he could have done was join them.
I know it’s just a sign of the time, but come on!! The mere suggestion that a woman’s subpar housekeeping would be the reason for this type of family annihilation is even an insult to that time… and the MEN who suggested such.
Idiocy at its finest: wants to kill his wife to keep his children and ends up killing them all 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ if thats not flawed logic I dont know what is 🤷🏻♀️
Had a laugh when I saw the meal of tofu and shallots being cooked for Fathers' Day. This is early 1970s rural Australia. The only exotic meal you would ever then was at the local Chinese restaurant, and even that had the Australian menu section. She would have served up a baked lamb dinner. Only lefties in Balmain and hippies in Nimbin ate tofu. Pity he didn't choke on his dinner.
He didn't want to lose his family... well congrats, buddy, you achieved exactly that. I don't get ppl who are so stubborn they think they have to make things right no matter what. I would have left. The mother appararently had completely fallen out of love with him, so I guess there was nothing to salvage there. I think the mother told them lies or "half-truths" about their father, so they started to resent him. By leaving and giving the children time to grow and understand, there might have been a chance they come around and reestablished a connection to the father. Anyway... very sad story.
Maybe his behaviour turned his children against him? Most children who love their father will not turn against him but defend him, even in a marriage breakdown. Do you think they just suddenly turned against him?
Exceptional video as always! I am puzzled how you find these interesting, crime ridden and fascinating stories!! You are such an impressive RUclipsr that all of your videos contain significant as well as well researched material but your sooty telling is mesmerizing!! You are exhibit compassion, empathy as well as humanizing the monsters that you reveal to us. Thank you for your hard work as it is never lost on me.
So wait. The wife & kids were mad at him for practically no reason. Like They all just woke up one day & everybody got together & was like "Hey let's hate on dad".🤨 N he gets booted out of his OWN house to live with a family member down the road? N the only problem is besides the finances is SHE'S probably having an affair? That doesn't make ANY sense.
Just like he killed his kids because "he loved them too much to leave them behind" . The man... if we can call him that... was clearly full of lies and making excuses for himself. Disgusting.
Tragic case. The articles I read about this say he was originally sentenced to death, and it was commuted to life in prison. One article said a 20 year sentence. Then he was paroled after 8 years for good behavior. Apparently he was happily married to his second wife for 20 years and was very good to his stepchildren. I think one contributing factor to the murders was that he had ben drinking a lot the night of the killings. In any event, that one incident was his only time in conflict with the law.
Drink is not considered an excuse any more. Neither in a murder nor a rape case. People make a decision to drink. That is not an excuse for bad behaviour. Otherwise many criminals would be out walking among us.
As a victim of the kind of woman Clifford was dealing with (who works to alienate one's own children from him) I can understand where he was coming from when he brought justice to her.
Great Channel! Lovely Accent! Great Narration! 👍💯👍 About Clifford I shall rather not voice my opinion as I haven't any good to say about such a being. 😱
After watching these true crime stories, I like to go on Find A Grave to pay my respects and leave a flower. However, after doing this for the Keane and the Bartholomew Family's, I can't find d a grave for Heather's oldest son Neville Kenneth. Did he not pass away at the same time?
That clothes seperation for doing laundry is a significant sign, my ex started to do this too and the husband of a friend did this too before they divoiced.
No one has the right to decide whether someone live or someone die!! My grandpa was murdered on November 8th, 1985 by two criminals who decided his life must end!!
I know this isn't relevant, but @5:04, the example of the Bartholomew's father's day meal is a tofu miso soup. The idea of a country family in 1970's Australia even knowing what Tofu is, is hilarious.
I was in my early teens when these murders happened. I still remember seeing all the children’s photos on the front page of my local paper and it really distressed me. I also remember getting angry when I heard he was released. Winnis had another child, Noelene who I think was about 10 years old at the time. Noeleen had been with the family earlier in the day but her stepbrother (or more likely her was her half brother) was also visiting had become concerned that ‘things weren’t right’ so he insisted of taking his sister away from the place. She lost her mother and little brother. She gave an interview when Clifford Bartholomew was released stating she was scared that her uncle might come for her. She also gave an interview when Bartholomew died.
In my opinion most murderers are insane. Healthy sane people don’t commit murder. However sane or insane I think murderers should be in prison for life with no parole
I just read that amok wiki page and they seriously need someone who can actually form full sentences in English there. I couldn't understand half of what was written.
He certainly doesn't seem to have suffered much remorse does he? He got out of prison and just got on with his life. He found another ready made family.. Did they not remind him every day of the people he murdered?
This happened in my current city and it seemed the isolation at the time caused so many issues for the family culminating in the murders. I think the old farm and place still stands but under new ownership. I couldn't live there 😢 RIP
I dont believe the story of the affair and so on. Something else was the reason of this heinous crime. I dont believe it was a happy family either. It was domestic violence to the extreme.
So in Australia, "life in prison" is seven and a half years? The man killed his wife and all of his children, including very young ones. How on earth could he ever be released? Even in America, he would have done more time than that. What a miscarriage of justice!
There is something terribly wrong with Australia's justice system. I have heard too many stories of similar outcomes from Australia. What is happening there?
They really dropped the ball on this one! He murders his entire family the gets death penalty. That gets downgraded to insanity, then he's free in 7 1/2 years!
I'm sorry insane or not, if you're capable of murdering your entire family, seven being children. You've committed the most heinous crime & death isn't justice but close enough.
The fact that he went free & remarried with 7 more kids is just wrong!
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And who the he'll is the nut job that married him.
Well, he was found legally insane at the time of the murders, which does change things significantly. Of course most people don't see a difference, but that plea is there for a reason.
This happens often in our global society. Women are seen as incubators that breed more humans for these guys to run through, terrorize & ultimately kill.
So long as the government can profit from their crimes, your births (and deaths alike) - THEY DO NOT CARE.
I wish women would realize this.
You are all only pawns- used to create more people.
@@VioletJoy that's fine if he was insane.....but he still should have been kept in for life........you do the crime you pay the price......
I don't understand how murderers practically get away with their crimes. Why should he be able to go back to living after 7 years? His victims didn't get to!
Right?? You got people doing drugs getting more time than pedophiles and murderers!! It's ridiculous!
I’ve heard several times that adults who murder their own children get seemingly light sentences. Don’t know why it is but in my mind the punishment should be harsher for that reason.
What irks me is that, yes, she was perhaps tired of her husband and wanted something different but why did she turn the kids on him?
That is unfortunately the plea deal of not guilty by reason of Insanity and to keep people from filing that Plea bargan to try to get off on a serious crime and only serve a few years in the state hospital and be free again. The process of that has changed in several of the states that still do those plea bargaining on serious crimes. Those people are put on SSI with a assigned Payee who receives and handles all of their SSI payment checks, the hospital or treatment facility gets to keep their entire back pay check if thousands for first getting SSI and only has to give the person who is declared crazy $40 dollars a month of whatever amount of money that person receives from SSI they if they behave, follow rules, ECT may after several years end up with a supervised apartment where the counselor performs inspection of the apartment on that person once a week and that person may have to go to daily group meetings and basically be in a program of sorts for the rest of their lives and it is to make life such a intrusive inconvenience caused by the state tjat people will regret that Plea deal and try to be declared competent to proceed with trial and actually do the prison time for the crime instead of the inconvenient daily grind of the state having them on a short leash and life being no freedom or fun for the rest of their lives and it is that was to avoid people copping a NGI or ICP to get away with a serious crime and only serve a few years and be free? Not any more! I dont know the particulars of all the states but it is now a shit show dor tbose who think that NGI plea will get tjem off... no a supervised life being tested on with new anti psychotic medications and daily group meetings and basically be a pawn of the state for life now.
I agree love
I don't know what happened in this particular instance, but if it truly was due to insanity, that might explain it.
The most dangerous time for a Domestic Violence victim is when you leave the perpetrator. In 1971 the Australian myth of the 'good bloke driven to desperation' was well and truly embedded in the culture. In 2022 it has only moved forward a little from this. There is no excuse for murdering your family.
That’s not just an “Australian myth”. That sentiment is alive and well here in the US too. I image it’s still thriving in many parts of the world.
cheaters deserve whats given to them.
@@Cobracatcommander the correct reaction to cheating is breaking up and moving on. Not killing a whole family.
@@Cobracatcommander That comment was beneath contempt
Coffee house crime has a story where a woman killed 57 people in an arson.
Many psycho traits are developed in early childhood due to neglect and abuse by the primary caregiver...
Yet, women constantly crave "bad boys" and society doesn't shame them for perpetuating the abuse cycle. Stop blaming men.
This issue with this story, is that it is told from Clifford's perspective which posits him as the victim. My mum was friends with Sharon and Christine and would stay at their house. She was terrified of Clifford, as was the whole family. He was not some 'loving father'. When she heard there was a murder in the area, she knew who it was straight away. He was a paranoid psycho.
Absolutely. It's like the narrator sucked up the misogynistic attitude of the Australian police force at the time - which was, and often sadly still is, pretty bad.
I was thinking exactly that when i heard the introduction. It absolutely doesn´t sound like a one-time-escalation of violence and i very much doubt a woman would make her husband leave after decades and 7 children together if there hadn´t been a serious reason.
@@sarahwolfmayr2116 B.S. As an over 50 gay progressive liberal I'd spent my entire adult life advocating for women's rights and against misogyny, and then I (along with my brother) became a victim of my brother's ex, who is one of the most vile reprehensible evil malicious selfish self-centered absolute garbage of a woman you'll ever know (or maybe you wouldn't because she can put on quite the front, and only once you get to know her better do you realize just exactly what kind of person she is).
She spent years working to alienate the kids (my niece and nephew) from their father, though he would never talk crap about her in front of them, she regularly worked to tear him down in front of the kids (I learned this from the kids themselves who confided in me about how she would say terrible and false things to them about their father). Still, I would only see her 'nice' side, despite my brother warning me that she was two-faced, and even knowing that she had CPS called on her on several occasions for some fairly serious offenses that endangered the kids lives. She's an alcoholic and bi-polar. My brother doesn't like dealing with her so he's basically washed his hands of her and the kids who distanced themselves from my brother despite his being a very nice, if somewhat aloof, father.
I maintained contact and a relationship with my niece and nephew who adored me. Little did I know she was working behind the scenes to alienate even me from the kids. My nephew did tell me that she wasn't particularly nice talking about me behind my back. Well.. turns out the moment she saw a vulnerability, the slightest of cracks in my great relationship with my niece and nephew, she struck in full force to drive a wedge between them and me. Since the kids live with her, she can terrorize them with threats of her going ballistic if they don't do what she says. Meanwhile my nephew (with the help of his terrible teenage pals who I had issues with and was the crack his c'nt of a mother took advantage of) refuses to speak with me (with her encouragement) despite years of a great relationship and friendship between us. And my niece who worships her brother does whatever he says she should do.
So yeah... I believe what is being said about how reprehensible this woman was toward her husband. In fact I've changed my attitude. I don't think you'll find anything more wicked evil and conniving than a woman, especially one that wants to monopolize the kids, and has gotten what she's wanted out of the man. The filthy scumbag that is my brother's ex changed her attitude toward him once she had the kids she wanted. And given her abuse of them psychologically, it's NOT about them, it's about her and what SHE wants. Hopefully karma catches up to her one day an she endures all the pain, suffering, and misery she's dished out.
He's a skinny faced alcoholic, from a time when the man was king of the castle. And clearly someone doesn't like women and I never read multiple paragraph rants either.
@@EmeraldViewfunny; what you’re describing is a bad experience with a woman. Us women have had multiple horrible and dangerous experiences with men, that’s why men are the most evil dangerous demons walking earth. No one cares about your sob story, same way no one cares about ours. But read the room dummy, advocating for men’s rights in the comments of a family annihilator video isn’t it. There are plenty of other areas of the internet where you can hate us as evil bc you can’t hang out with your niece.
Love his children too much that he had to kill them what a load of bs if he really loved his children he would have let them go not murder them.
These human cockroaches only see other people as objects, as possessions, not as humans with a life of their own. He would rather destroy "his" objects than lose them. He didn't care about their suffering.
Not by any means justifying this assholes actions. The wife having an an affair is one thing, but turning the kids against him is another. He was not welcome by the wife to spend Father's Day, and the narrator said the kids were "cool" towards him when he was visiting. Plus, it seems the sister in law shunned him also. But no doubt, he should have received life without parole.
@@peterw.kocsis2520 genuine question: why are you so sure the mother turned them against him? First of all, that piece of information was probably reported by Clifford, and Clifford only, since all the kids were dead, so we don’t know if it’s true or if he lied to build up a defense. Second, even if it’s true, children may have had their good reason to be cold to their dad. He ended up brutally killing them, I feel there is at least a chance that he showed violent or disturbing behaviors even before the killing spree.
@@peterw.kocsis2520 He's obviously the kind of low life who would murder a child ... Because he did murder children. So maybe him being such a weirdo sadistic POS had something to do with the rest of the family despising him, wife included. Think there might be a connection there?
She told them lots of lies about their dad and alienated them from him. They believed it, and he fulfilled the expectations she indoctrinated them with.
Australia seems to have one of the worst Justice systems ever. How can someone annihilate his family and only serve 7 1/2 years?! I’ve seen many other cases of monsters getting insanely light sentences. I feel for all of the families who never were given proper justice for their loved ones.
Well, i mean, england shipped all their dangerous criminals over there back in the day, probably has something to do with it.
Being a Brit and knowing our pathetic system I can agree with this. I’m always shocked at Australian sentencing and think “wow, I thought the U.K. was bad”.
No justice system in the western world will imprison/execute a person deemed by a board of psychiatrists to be insane.
Senator Bill Heffernans speech explains why pretty much 😳
1) you are comparing the legal system of the 70's to the legal system of today. things are different now. 2) it was a LOT easier to get off on an insanity then that it is now. and back then once you were declared "sane" you were just free and clear, that is NOT the case now. look back to cases here in the US. even here the sentencing has changed drastically since the 70's, being able to get off on an insanity plea is almost impossible bc psychologists & psychiarists are taken seriously. you look at a case like his... you would think this guy HAS to be insane he just killed his enire family, regardless of what a professional would say. nowdays, a team of psychologists & psychiatrists from both sides are going to say noo/ yes he crazy as a lune/ he's as sane as they come. and we as a jury will decide if he's crazy. but we also know now that people can just be purely evil. back then, ( having lived it, ) you just didn't see that much if ever. that's why serial killers could so easily take advantage of people. heck we didn't even lock our doors at night!
Unbelievable. Not even a year per murder. There are many, many people in jail here in the US for 15+ years just for having 3 ounces of marijuana and this dude gets a slap on the wrist and a new wife and family for mass murder. F'ed up.
It's always the marijuana story. Boring!
@@johnnywalker8326
Agree, very boring since weed is legal a lot states, plus possession in states where it’s not just get very light sentences.
Such a " Cliché "
Try posting an individual comment rather than parroting misnomers.
@@johnnywalker8326 Right? There always has to be one!
Oh always with the marijuana defence!!! Ffs, will you pot heads just go tf away already?!? G-damned losers!!!!
I've heard this BS before - person kills their kids because they "didn't want to lose them." He DIDN'T love his kids or his wife. He was ANGRY because he lost CONTROL over his family. This was all done in an act of revenge. It's shameful he was released after such a short sentence... His new family could have easily suffered the same fate!
His wife was à fuc........bitc........!!.....
Yeah I wonder what would have happened if his new wife would have tried to leave him
Excellent coverage.
Much love of your content. Other interesting Australian cases that dont get much coverage is that of Anthony Waterlow and Malcolm Naden if you want to look into them.
How the hell did he ever got out of jail. Disgraceful that he got to live a full life with children ...
One who murders their own kids (or someone elses) should be castrated.
Because he was ultimately a good fellow. The wicked woman who used and abused him is the source of what transpired.
Is Australia crazy? 7 years for multiple murders?! Murderers should be in prison for life with no parole until they die. Never let them out
You must believe in exceptions such as self defense, rape, etc-right?
Example: A child gets kidnapped, tortured and raped repeatedly only to be murdered. The killer gets released on a technicality, so the deceased child's parent chooses to get justice by taking it into their own hands (when it's not questionable who the guilty party was) and removes the scumbag from this world ensuring no other child would suffer the same fate. Do you believe the parent should get the death penalty or life in prison or would you agree while they are guilty for that murder, they shouldn't have to serve any time because their suffering should count as time served?
What if someone breaks into your hom, brandishing a weapon and is aggressively advancing upon you so you grab your trusty 22 (preloaded what 10 hollow point rounds), announce "the cops have already been called, they're on their way and this is your only opportunity to turn around and leave before I unload this clip. Undeterred, he continues faster now and as promised you open fire and shoot to kill. Should you get life behind bars or a medal for successfully defending your family?
My point is that every situation should be tried on a case by case basis and not all murders/killers aka someone who has taken a life should be given the same punishment. In this case, the man in the video, deserves to have been locked up alone in a small cell with old family videos playing on a loop over so he would've been psychologically tortured with the faces, voices of his deceased children taunting him as a constant reminder of what he he callously took from the world, all because his wife didn't want him to be her spouse any longer. Death would've been too easy and he claimed to have wanted it, so instead, he should have been forced to live and be haunted daily by the children he claimed to have loved. Instead this prick was declared 'insane' (to insane to pay for his crimes but not insane enough to keep him locked away from society of which he is/was clearly a threat. Now he's got a new wife and family?!? Heaven help her if she ever chooses to leave him! And Australian's think America's nuts, LOL. (We are, definitely but apparently we're not alone in this)
As an Australian I can tell you, our justice system is ridiculous. We have an “injustice” system.
@@Melissa_anne_2024 Or one that understands just how vile and reprehensible some women can be.
Wow, I was just shocked that this monster was able to go about his life after only 7 years in prison. Just makes you feel sick.
His filthy wife was the monster. Hopefully she's getting her just rewards in hell!
My God this case is insane. Gotta wonder what other kind of crazy stories are out there or forgotten.
7 years?! He certainly didn't deserve such a light sentence
Any man this evil to kill his own children, would be the last word I take of that man.. she or the children are not here to tell their side of the story
Exactly and it was disappointing that DC have so much credence to the affair theory when there was no proof at all. It’s more likely he was controlling/abusive and wanted to kill them all rather than them living free, like most family annihilators.
I was going to say the same thing. The narrative repeated here could only have come from him and/or his associates (lawyers, friends, etc.) I’ve noticed over time this tendency to believe what domestic murderers say AFTER they’ve murdered. So this a&&hole escaped the hangman - fine, whatever. When the death penalty can’t be applied here in the U.S., LWOP (Life WithOut Parole) is usually the alternative. This Aussie family annihilator, however, ended up doing fewer than 8 YEARS IN PRISON? What the #^@£ kind of “justice” is that, for krissakes? Secondly, what kind of woman hooks up with a man who slaughtered his previous family?
@@existentialgamer9206 exactly
@@existentialgamer9206 exactly, and the children withdrawing from him could have just as easily been them fearing being around him on their own.
I don’t think I have ever heard of this case before.I’m Australian and I really appreciate seeing videos on my country’s crimes
I know this is odd but I’m an Aussie too and yet I hate hearing murder stories from home. I’m not exactly sure why, maybe it makes me feel ashamed.😢
It’s literally no surprise why she wanted to leave him. Obviously he was like this during the marriage
He was. My mum was friends with the family. It was 1971 so the press made out that he was a 'family man driven to it by a cheating wife'. He was a paranoid, controlling, abusive man.
@@tangiblelearning our neighbour was an alcoholic journalist. Definitely going to be sympathetic with a drinking mate. I'm guessing SA was no different.
This is just what I was looking for to listen, thank you!❤
Much love and support from Finland!🤗
I really enjoy the cases you share. Thank you
Anybody else think the husband looked like Robin Williams if he hadn't looked after himself?
Totally.
YESSSSSS I was just thinking that !!
He does
His head was between a closing door, i suppose.
Along with most of their kids!
To go from a sentence of death to only serving 7 1/2 years for murdering TEN people is just mind boggling.
The justice system found out just what sort of woman his wife was.
As gruesome as these cases are, I have to say that your videos are beautiful and so well done. Your voice, the tone, the mysterious yet melancholic theme song, the transition between pictures. Just beautiful.
His second wife and her children were aware that he'd killed his first wife, his reason: he caught her cheating. The wife knew about the other murders, but her children didn't.
WTFF
Moral of the story: if you want to commit a felony, move to Australia. 🙄🙄😒😒
Especially violent crime and paedophilia...........I'm Australian, I see it all the time............our courts are full of paedos
Pretty much., you’re almost guaranteed to get away with it 🤬
@@Melissa_anne_2024 Australia doesn't take kindly to evil women.
@@EmeraldView but loves men who kill woman and children. Lovely 🙄
The musical introduction alone grips me every time. I always know that your haunting voice is coming next
OMG ~ only 7 1/2 years????? 😡 wow, just wow 😢
Another strange case I was unfamiliar with. And another insanely lenient sentence for a killer of multiple people, which is puzzling to most Americans who follow these crime stories.
Really? So you are also surely very ‘puzzled’ at the many, many criminals who are let out of prison on parole having only done half of their sentence for murder, rape etc. often against the advice of psychologists and then go on to commit another murder, rape or whatever. I follow quite a few RUclips channels and it seems this happens a LOT in America. Also, in America it is also completely lawful to commit a murderer to a mental facility who is deemed insane at the time, and treat him/her back to health and release that person back into the community, so I’m thinking there must be lots of puzzled people there who don’t know the law. No surprises there.
Australia was sparsely populated. He probably benefited by killing everyone. There was no one left to complain.
I'm Australian and never heard of this case. He must have had the most leanient judge on the planet to get 7.5 years for ten murders
Same. I am from NSW and have never heard of this case either.
Same here I've never heard of it either...how the hell could he kill his children his wife his sister in law and her baby and be out in such a short time...our court system is well and truly broken 😡
Ditto, never heard of this one. So strange.
I actually live near where this happened and I hadn't heard of it until a few years ago. I actually spoke to a relative of Clifford's either on facebook or here on youtube.
Judge understood the wife was ultimately responsible for what happened.
Can you imagine going through your dead parents' old belongings and suddenly finding out your step father annihilated his first wife and kids? Talk about having skeletons in the closet...😜
Ugh, why add a jokey smiley face after that comment ? These are real people who were killed. That shit is not funny and doesn’t warrant levity. Creepy.
@@Tsumami__ we laugh because it’d be unexpected. If you don’t laugh you’ll cry. There’s nothing wrong with a little levity to help people handle very dark situations- and you don’t know this commenter or what they’ve been through.
🤣😅 true
You just wouldn’t want to ever believe it.
I wonder if the second wife knew about his past ?
@@maddieb.4282 💯
How shocking he was released after 7 years.
I don't think she was cheating. To me it sounds like he was an abusive drunk and when she finally got the courage to leave him, he killed her. It's domestic abuser 101.
I think he thought she was cheating because he couldn't accept that the relationship ended because of him.
The baby apparently had Keane as a surname, so it appears that he was not Bartholomew’s son.
@@jillgarlick2122 and that's how rumors get started...the baby, Daniel Keane, was the son of Winnie Keane: the visiting sister of Heather.
@@brandyjean7015 what rumour snowflake, is anything I wrote not true? From what I remember there was an older child with that surname who was the wife’s child but not Bartholomew’s. Or is that just a rumour.
@@jillgarlick2122 the wife did have an infant from her 1st marriage, but that child's name is not included in the list of victims. Either that was the child that was lost in infancy or had already moved out from the family home. The eldest child victim was their eldest son Neville. The only 2 victims with the Keane name are Winni & her infant son.
May you learn to graciously accept new knowledge; without the unnecessary name calling.
Virtually gets away with murder.
Literally
The kids were unnecessary, but otherwise he took out the trash.
Ugh! What a horrible mess. Those poor kids.💔 Thanks DC🙏🦌
Wow what a horrible case. I am in shock. So much of the story doesn't add up. Absolutely horrific that Clifford murdered the family and got such a ridiculous sentence. Why not life in a mental facility since he was deemed insane?? The fact that he remarried and was around children again is insane in itself!
Because you cannot legally be ‘sentenced’ to life in a mental facility! You are put there to be treated, and if you ‘recover’ then you are let out. He was obviously not a threat to society as he didn’t kill anybody else.
@@jillgarlick2122 I hope you are kidding
@@larapalma3744 Me too!
@@jillgarlick2122 There was a case in Canada where the guy who beheaded another guy on a greyhound bus was declared not guilty by reason of insanity and he's out walking around now. That wasn't that long ago either.
@@leelee2350 The psychiatrists must have deemed him to be fit for reintroduction into society. I don’t know, why don’t you find out. if he was insane at the trial then he would have been sent to a facility for the insane. They are not locked up forever, it is all within the law. If you want insane people to betrayed like non insane people and locked up for the rest of their lives you need to lobby your government and legislature. Probably wafting your time, but if you feel strongly enough about it that is what you should do.
How does someone plot and kill 10 people, get a death sentence, a life sentence and then go on to be released after 7 freaking years??? That’s crazy.
What crazy sentencing. Even reason of insanity should have kept him locked up, my God, he killed his entire family!
7 years for this crime is simply taking the piss.
How can so many lives be worth 7 measly years. Sane or insane, that should be a life sentence in prison/mental facility. I know people who served more time for 2 bags of weed. The system is a joke.
Sounds like Canada. A life it nothing but hit a cop or even show disrespect or a bag or two of weed or armed robbery and you r in trouble. Killing someone. No big deal.
I'm not sure it's fair to say that the system is a joke using this case as an example. Even though the vast majority of people would like to see killers get either the death penalty or life in prison, being deemed temporarily insane can be a legitimate thing and does carry a different sentence.
Let's say, for example, that your son or brother dealt with severe mental illness and committed a serious crime. After getting medical intervention, he ended up much more mentally healthy. Should he face the same sentence as a mentally stable drug dealer or gang member, for example?
@@VioletJoy Please. Hundreds of millions of people battle mental illnesses (myself included) and 99.99% of us don't go on murder sprees. No one is capable of seeing the future, so where is the guarantee that murderers like these won't do it again? Being locked up and taken care of in a prison or mental facility (usually paid with tax money) is already an act of human mercy, considering any other animal who injures or kills a person gets put down immediately to prevent future harm. Did those kids he brutalized get mercy? No. They are forever gone and rotting underground while he gets to prance around and live happily. A system that cares more about perpetrators than victims (and potential future victims) is trash. End of story.
This is why being found insane as the reason is a very careful process in all the Commonwealth. Depending on the cause of the "insanity" if it is treatable with medication like many psychotic episodes of untreated schizophrenia can be, stability can be achieved quite quickly. The man Vince Li in Canada an immigrant attacked a cross-country bus passenger, killing him and eating his face before police stopped him. He was released in 4 years from forensic psych on medications. He was wchizophrenic nevr rusgnosed in his home country, became psychotic, and killed. Now he is free in society on medications.
The courts obviously understood what sort of disgusting woman he was dealing with and knew SHE was ultimately responsible for what happened.
How in the world does it go from possible death sentence, to life in prison to 7 years? That was a massacre and he was out in 7 years. Thankful that he didn't kill anyone else. I guess his wife leaving him really did make him go mad. Jesus
Death by hanging... or released after 7 years. The Aussie justice (& political) system has always been this weird mix of old colonial and hideously misguided liberalism.
It's Canada with a better accent!
Another amazing video. Keep up the good work inspiring us fellow true crime channels with smaller followers 🥰
I think you did a great job with this one. Good pacing. Good narration.
I can't fatham how someone could wipe out their entire family like that to look st your own flesh and blood in the eye and murder them in cold blood is a truly twisted thing to do i always find it difficult hearing these sort of cases especially knowing children are among the victims i just don't understand how someone could do such an awful thing there's simply no forgiving that.
That can definitely point toward temporary insanity, which is what happened in his case. It's heartbreaking to hear about anything bad happening to children and can't imagine much worse than being killed by your own father. What a horrible way to die. 💔
He was judged to be insane! Blame the psychiatrists!
@@jillgarlick2122 What do you mean by "blame the psychiatrists"? Are you suggesting they were wrong?
@@VioletJoy not at all, but the useless anger in some of the comments because of ‘the judge’, ‘the judicial system’ etc. etc. who just followed the law should be directed at the people who whilst also following the law, were the ones who got him committed due to being insane, cured him and promoted his release into the community 7 years later. An insane person cannot be put in prison or put to death in a civilised society, and as it turned out he wasn’t a threat to the public subsequent to his release.
@@jillgarlick2122 I appreciate you explaining your viewpoint. I was confused because I didn't see any mention of the judge or judicial system here in this comment string.
Beautiful scenery. Lovely cows and calves! 💞😘
Wtf !? ... he just did 7 years !? What's going on here !? What kind of justice is this !!!?
I don’t understand conscience-less criminals in general. But in that pathetic group, I understand family annihilators least of all. I can find no sliver of understanding or compassion for their egotistical narcissistic evil. Sad terrible well done story you .
Indeed. I have ZERO compassion for the vile woman Clifford had to deal with. Drove him to insanity with her evil acts.
Evil begets evil.
What type of judge would sign the release of a man who was originally given death, commuted to life, and more importantly “capable” of mass murder; respectfully, 7 innocent children? This story is not only horribly tragic but incomprehensible!
Their mother made them believe lies about their father and he made those lies a reality for them.
A pedo judge. That's who.
Well...Damn! That was one Hellava story. Wow! Thanks DC for this amazing tale.
Seven years for a family annihilation? I thought Australia had a penal code.
Don't forget this was over 50 years ago, things have changed now.
For me, the excuses of temporary insanity, or the consumption of illicit drugs, are NOT reasons to take other people's lives and are grounds for totally removing those criminals from Society permanently, preferably not by giving them free rent, meals, laundry entertainment and study facilities during the time they get "life" imprisonment; which doesn't seem all that long these days !!
This was a great video but how on earth did he only get 7 years?? That's ridiculous!!
Our Australian justice is ridiculous!
Insane or not, he should've gotten more than a measly seven years.
I usually like these videos but i didn’t like all the unproven bias in the narrative against heather, with a veteran that may or may not exist and the murderers letter didn’t even mention him but blames Winny? Something’s not adding up and it’s disappointing. Heather nor the kids can’t tell their side of the story and she’s blamed now. The whole “good man suddenly snaps” is a Hollywood fantasy and normal non violent men don’t just jump to killing their wives and then their entire extended families.
Because these are driving factors behind what he did. She did what she did the children did what they did and then he did what he did. There are explanations into what drives someone to do things. Those explanations don’t need your approval or acceptance, or mine or anyone else’s. Not really that hard to comprehend.
@@BuckFidenMD4547 What did she 'do'? Do you have any proof? You are just making excuses for Mr. Bartholomew.
@@plynn136 exactly it’s scary how people in these comments just take the murderers word for it even though the supposed veteran affair partner has no name and can’t be confirmed, and the murderer didn’t even mention this affair he was supposedly so pissed about in his letter. Like we’re so quick to demonize victims it’s pathetic
It's the inherent sexism that still persists today that I hate the most. I mean, how many modern murders do you hear of because she supposedly cheated? Even if she truly did, there's no reason to kill someone that is reasonable.
@@offlinegirl5956 agree, on videos with a female victim who cheated there will always be men in the comments saying she got what she deserved but you don’t see that energy when men cheat and then are murdered.
Wow that’s a crazy ass story and very very heartbreaking!! He killed even the damn baby! He’s going to burn in hell for his horrible chooses.
R.I.P. to all 10 lives that was taken that day!
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
His vile wife is burning in hell. She killed those kids with what she did to their father.
WTF!!! 7 1/2 years for murdering 10 of your own family? The Australian justice system is as guilty as the killer himself. This is beyond logical.
It's so sad when children are murdered by a parent just unforgivable, thank you for another brilliant video.
Yet another example of a disgusting woman killing her kids.
I wonder if he was cruel before he had to leave his family. Out of 7 children he would have some that missed him and would want to see him.
Brutality kills eight family members and only gets seven years. WTF
No words ..... I just can't believe the outcome.
I don’t really care what Heather allegedly did or did not do. You DO NOT kill your family! Perhaps, we could blame the victim a bit less next time.
Absolutely couldn’t agree more , NO ONE has the right to take another’s life ..
My family is so bad I’d have been better off had I been raised by wolves but I didn’t kill them. Did look into piling them in a rocket and firing it into the sun but the cost was prohibitive so I settled for moving 2500 miles away.😊
Really? So you're telling me, im..hold on, let me get this straight. So a person isn't supposed to kill their family? How can I believe you though? You're just some person on the internet so I know you're not a credible source. I'm going to have to call my attorney and get a 2nd opinion cause I'm not so sure I believe you.
Heather killed those kids.
What a f'king disgusting woman. I pray she's now burning in hell where she belongs.
7 1/2 years for murdering his entire family???? Seriously????
Yup, didn't expect any diffrent from society. Blame the MURDERED woman for ???? Instead of focusing on the killer husband. Still happens these days too.
"He loved his children too much to leave them behind" sorry, what? I notice he had no trouble preserving his own self--the least he could have done was join them.
I know it’s just a sign of the time, but come on!! The mere suggestion that a woman’s subpar housekeeping would be the reason for this type of family annihilation is even an insult to that time… and the MEN who suggested such.
This was a great video! Thank you for this channel and all your work. Keep it coming--you have talent!
7 and a half years for murdering 10 people? Wtf?
Idiocy at its finest: wants to kill his wife to keep his children and ends up killing them all 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ if thats not flawed logic I dont know what is 🤷🏻♀️
He will one day face judgement & the justice that slipped by him in this life. Bank on it.
Had a laugh when I saw the meal of tofu and shallots being cooked for Fathers' Day. This is early 1970s rural Australia. The only exotic meal you would ever then was at the local Chinese restaurant, and even that had the Australian menu section. She would have served up a baked lamb dinner. Only lefties in Balmain and hippies in Nimbin ate tofu. Pity he didn't choke on his dinner.
He didn't want to lose his family... well congrats, buddy, you achieved exactly that. I don't get ppl who are so stubborn they think they have to make things right no matter what. I would have left. The mother appararently had completely fallen out of love with him, so I guess there was nothing to salvage there. I think the mother told them lies or "half-truths" about their father, so they started to resent him. By leaving and giving the children time to grow and understand, there might have been a chance they come around and reestablished a connection to the father. Anyway... very sad story.
Maybe his behaviour turned his children against him? Most children who love their father will not turn against him but defend him, even in a marriage breakdown. Do you think they just suddenly turned against him?
Exceptional video as always! I am puzzled how you find these interesting, crime ridden and fascinating stories!! You are such an impressive RUclipsr that all of your videos contain significant as well as well researched material but your sooty telling is mesmerizing!! You are exhibit compassion, empathy as well as humanizing the monsters that you reveal to us. Thank you for your hard work as it is never lost on me.
So wait.
The wife & kids were mad at him for practically no reason.
Like They all just woke up one day & everybody got together & was like "Hey let's hate on dad".🤨
N he gets booted out of his OWN house to live with a family member down the road?
N the only problem is besides the finances is SHE'S probably having an affair?
That doesn't make ANY sense.
Just like he killed his kids because "he loved them too much to leave them behind" . The man... if we can call him that... was clearly full of lies and making excuses for himself. Disgusting.
There was something WRONG with him and his behavior.
Kids can always tell. When someone is off.....ESPECIALLY A PARENT.
Tragic 😢
Tragic case. The articles I read about this say he was originally sentenced to death, and it was commuted to life in prison. One article said a 20 year sentence. Then he was paroled after 8 years for good behavior. Apparently he was happily married to his second wife for 20 years and was very good to his stepchildren. I think one contributing factor to the murders was that he had ben drinking a lot the night of the killings. In any event, that one incident was his only time in conflict with the law.
Drink is not considered an excuse any more. Neither in a murder nor a rape case. People make a decision to drink. That is not an excuse for bad behaviour. Otherwise many criminals would be out walking among us.
As a victim of the kind of woman Clifford was dealing with (who works to alienate one's own children from him) I can understand where he was coming from when he brought justice to her.
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Lovely Accent!
Great Narration!
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About Clifford I shall rather not voice my opinion as I haven't any good to say about such a being.
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In some ways I am surprised he didn't try and go after the veteran instead of his wife?.
Because he would have fought back harder than the wife could have. Lodger wasn't even in the house at the time.
Because he didn't exist.
I can't believe that bum got out of prison and marrid again? Whats wrong with the justice system? unbelievable
After watching these true crime stories, I like to go on Find A Grave to pay my respects and leave a flower. However, after doing this for the Keane and the Bartholomew Family's, I can't find d a grave for Heather's oldest son Neville Kenneth. Did he not pass away at the same time?
you are the sweetest 🌷🌷
Probably buried with his maternal family as he was not a Bartholomew by birth.
What a lovely idea! You're very kind & thoughtful. ❤
I like how you showed tofu soup for dinner
That clothes seperation for doing laundry is a significant sign, my ex started to do this too and the husband of a friend did this too before they divoiced.
A life sentence in australia is only 25 yrs. Only very special cases are marked never to be released!
I for one think this is too lenient for some
He was release after serving only seven years for killing 10 people including eight children?!
Seven and a half years!. Wow.
No one has the right to decide whether someone live or someone die!! My grandpa was murdered on November 8th, 1985 by two criminals who decided his life must end!!
I know this isn't relevant, but @5:04, the example of the Bartholomew's father's day meal is a tofu miso soup. The idea of a country family in 1970's Australia even knowing what Tofu is, is hilarious.
I was in my early teens when these murders happened. I still remember seeing all the children’s photos on the front page of my local paper and it really distressed me. I also remember getting angry when I heard he was released.
Winnis had another child, Noelene who I think was about 10 years old at the time. Noeleen had been with the family earlier in the day but her stepbrother (or more likely her was her half brother) was also visiting had become concerned that ‘things weren’t right’ so he insisted of taking his sister away from the place. She lost her mother and little brother. She gave an interview when Clifford Bartholomew was released stating she was scared that her uncle might come for her. She also gave an interview when Bartholomew died.
Moral of the story don't be an evil filthy cnt .
In my opinion most murderers are insane. Healthy sane people don’t commit murder. However sane or insane I think murderers should be in prison for life with no parole
How on earth can you commit mass murder and be jailed for 7 years?
I’m Australian and totally unaware of this awful crime. May those precious innocents be Resting in Peace 🙏🇦🇺
And the 'mother' burning in hell.
I just read that amok wiki page and they seriously need someone who can actually form full sentences in English there. I couldn't understand half of what was written.
He certainly doesn't seem to have suffered much remorse does he? He got out of prison and just got on with his life. He found another ready made family.. Did they not remind him every day of the people he murdered?
This happened in my current city and it seemed the isolation at the time caused so many issues for the family culminating in the murders. I think the old farm and place still stands but under new ownership. I couldn't live there 😢 RIP
I dont believe the story of the affair and so on. Something else was the reason of this heinous crime. I dont believe it was a happy family either. It was domestic violence to the extreme.
So in Australia, "life in prison" is seven and a half years? The man killed his wife and all of his children, including very young ones. How on earth could he ever be released? Even in America, he would have done more time than that. What a miscarriage of justice!
4:59 Oh yes they definitely ate the traditional Australian dish sundubu jiggae.
Those kids into a second marriage and finding out his true history....RUN!!!
There is something terribly wrong with Australia's justice system. I have heard too many stories of similar outcomes from Australia. What is happening there?
I know the lawyers are doing there jobs but surely they must think we have denied them kids justice 7 years wow
Wow 😮 he looks exactly like Robin Williams
That would be so confusing to find out your step dad killed his entire first family