My New Favourite Carp Fishing Rig! (carp rig tying tutorial)
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2023
- Carp fishing rigs are a personal thing and even though I am happy with what I've been using, there is always room for improvement. After using the amnesia d-rig for a couple of years I wanted to find a similar carp rig but with more movement. This carp rig tying tutorial shows you how to tie my new favourite carp rig which I think is better than a Ronnie rig but can you name it?
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Thanks Simon my new favourite rig 71lb mirror 💪🇫🇷💪💪my new go to rig
That's awesome mate congratulations 👏
The reason why the people who run Korda and Nash fly around in private jets is because they've mastered the art of convincing carp anglers that they need 10 to 12 separate bits of tiny, fiddly, overpriced plastic, metal and silicone widgets (all made in China for pennies) to attach a bait to a hook.
Never a truer word spoken, same applies to bait.
And you listen to this man who said at the beginning this rig has caught me all the bigger fish in france whatever?? C'mon
Great rigs tried this week and bagged 3 carp of 27 28 and pb of 37lb thanks Simon
That's fantastic mate well done 👏
Quality as always cheers Simon 👍
Thanks 👍
Have been using this kind of rig for most of my carpfishing life. The best.
Good video Simon and nicely explained
Cheers fella hope it works for you 👌
Cheers Simon I’ve just come back from France 🇫🇷 I had 4 carp absolutely nail in bottom lip this is definitely my new go to rig.👍😆
Ah that's great to hear! It's definitely a killer rig 😉
Fantastic video snd this rig looks useable in so many situations. Cant wait to make a few of these this evening. Thanks for posting.
Hope it works for you mate it's been fantastic for me and zero tangles 😉
Made a few last night and gonna use them this weekend.
The business end is....well the business. Decided to replicate that at 2 inches and tied onto a fluorocarbon boom with putty at the join. Sits lovely with the half a pop up just above the deck but with the movement I wanted near the hook. Almost invisible too I should imagine. Thanks again for the video, so easy to follow. 👍🏻
and not just for carp.
Will try that fella been using the d rig for a while
It's been doing me proud lately mate works really well 👌
Yes, this rig has got a name. I came up with it in the early1990s on Savay lake. ( which is a story in itself). I named it the' Loaded rig'.. Its since been reinvented numerous times by others and not fully understood by many too. Obviously convergent evolution does occur with rig development. At least you were honest and said you didn't invent it!
I spoke to a guy who said he's been using it or something similar since the late 80s just goes to show it's almost impossible to come up with something completely "different" most rigs are just a variation on something that's come before. I do love this rig though and how it combines the anti tangle properties of a D rig with the turning capabilities of a combined style rig.
Brilliant
Thanks 😊
Spot on, mate. I used to make that rig exactly the same as you, but with Bristle Filament instead.
But when Kryston brought out the first coated braids on the market, Snakeskin, I think it was. And with the flexible section of the exposed braid at the hook end, it made the rig work a lot better.
It's just a D rig with a kicker basically
It's the best of both worlds really isn't it. A D-rig with flexibility and a kicker it's pretty deadly 😉
@@SimonDewCarpFishing definitely, mate 👍
You should model for the next Fairy liquid advert shun ! Them hands never seen a hard days graft !!
Just because I'm not a builder or chippy doesn't mean I don't work hard😉
I wish I found you on RUclips along time ago .. you explanation is stop on .. well spoke .. Al be here from now .. all the best .. top vid sir ,🎣🎣🎣
Thanks mate feel free to suggest video ideas I'm always open to ideas 👌
Apart from how you make the D section, it's almost an exact copy of a rig made by Joe Drury, fishery manager at anglers paradise. He made me quite a few a few years back, a killer rig, caught my pb on it.
I'm interested mate how is the D different on the rig you mention? Always interested in different ways to do things 😉
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another good vid Simon
Thanks mate more coming soon 😉
Gotta try this out
It's been amazing for me the last few months mate 👌
Great video, going to tie a few of these up. Would you fish this rig over a spread of bollies or is it just as effective over a tight baited spot of particles or pellets.
It will work with any bait however I would shorten it for tighter baiting situations 👌
Hi Simon
How do you keep the bait from falling back onto the coated section when you cast or when the fish moves the rig with its fins or mouth
Hi again simon, you mentioned before about the downside of the D rig not having a supple section at the hook. Do you think that cost you bite or was there an experi3nce that made you think this is less than optimal. Im doing lots of tank tests at the moment and find the hook section can often fold back on to itself with the supple section. In fact of all my tests im tempted to conclude a D rig or clone rig is one of the few bottom bait presentations (maybe the only) that guarantess resetting and that the whole rig lays out entirely flat every time. Ive tried a lot as well.
I think it's not necessarily a bad thing if the rig can lay back on itself as it can give it more movement when the fish sucks at it if you know what I mean? I love the D-rig but always feel a little more movement could help trip up the bigger more cautious fish and it's certainly been working well for me. Both rigs work well so I'd be happy using either. If I'm in a rush the D rig is the quickest to tie 😉
I'm having similar results. Probably nothing to worry about but I can't help thinking that stiff section will interfere with pickups. I normally use a semi stiff german rig but wanted to try something a bit more supple.
Aleo could you add a pva mesh for to it if so what would be ou recommend adding to it and could you add a goo to the bollies
You can definitely use pva etc and goo can be good on some lakes. It's all about experimenting and finding what works for you where you fish 👌
Call it the 'Houdini' !!!
That's a great suggestion 😉
Hi Simon, thanks for the really nice video and idea. I notice that these kind of rigs, amnesia d rig included, are often used in combination with some kind of buoyancy in the bait. Whats your idea about using them with steaight-out-of-the-bag and untipped baits? The resetting function would work and provably the whole mechanics will chance. Tia, Fabio
Hi the reason we tend to use buoyant baits with these rigs is because the bait sits nearer the eye of the hook which in turn helps the point on the hook drop down. For heavy baits such as bottom baits you want the bait to sit nearer the bend on the hook to achieve the same thing 👌
Thank you Simon i got it but I still have a "doubt" : when the carp approach the bait it sucks the boiie. Its a quantity of energy that "fight" with the weight of the boilies until it flyes into the mouth. So we could say that every bait has got a weightles moment when sucked in..so whats the difference? Hope to have explained properly, my english sucks :) whats your opinion? Tia , Fabio
Rather use silicone tubing for the three mm section - be a bit concerned on hook hold with shrink tube pulling round as good. But as you say if you’ve been hooking them and the shrink tube does move then all cool … Thanks will give it a try …..
Shrink tube is best made silicone doesn't stay in place during the cast. It doesn't need to blow back really as the bait can slide on the D 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing I always use silicone tube for fixating my hair , never has it slipped when casting even + 100 meters casts ,, and the indication when you had a pick up is more accurate then when you use shrink tubing ,
Would you say that this is the best hook and all the other materials for this rig? Also what lead setup do u use
The materials I use are just what I prefer and I've found them to be very good. I'm not saying others won't be good but there are a lot of cheap tackle companies selling rubbish gear so the decision is up to you really
Try the Gardner XL kickers.
Will take a look cheers 😊
I will test the "Simon rig" next week. Due to the softness of the D loop, and the uncoated segment near the hook, theoretically, it has better mechanics than a chod rig with stiff monofilament, or Ronnie rig. Is a D loop better than using a micro swivel directly on the shank? Thank you for all your videos and hard work! Best wishes!
The D loop is stiff mate. The only bit stripped back is the bit near the hook. The problem with a swivel on the shank is it can sometimes spin round and the bait gets stuck on the point. Not a problem with pop ups but bottom baits and wafters behave differently under water 👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing sorry for the confusion. I thought the portion used for knotless knot and D loop is stripped back. Thank you for the tips!🙏
No worries mate hope it works for you 👌
Do you crimps and can make a combi rig with crimps thanks love your rig will have ago at making it thanks
I'm not keen on crimps to be honest mate. Not strong enough after doing my own tests and can be quite sharp so damage the fish as the rub against them 👍
Instead of putting the d end section through the eye and covering it with the shrink tube,push your baiting needle through the shrink tube and eye of the hook, then push the tag end through and blob after shrinking 😉
Thanks mate I'll try that 😉
Looks good with that different kicker useing a needle 👍👍
Apart from the benefit of not having a soft hair to tangle. I believe this has no real edge over a normal ringed blowback or slip D rig. All very similar mechanics. If using foam or mesh then this isnt really required. Nice idea and one ive played with before. Always go back to line aligned blow back and large curve shank (muggas) Simon do you still use the withy as your go to pop up?
It's the fact it doesn't tangle that gives this rig the edge for me. Especially on waters where roach etc mess with your rigs. I've often wound in even with bags etc and the bait/hair is wrapped up and the rig wasn't fishing. This rig resets every time so you know its always fishing for you. For me that's a massive plus for using a D over a hair. Even the slip D can rotate around the hook and the bait becomes impaled on your hook. I've never had thst with this rig so it's a confidence thing. Those extra percent in your favour can be all the difference. I do still use the withy yes I've not found better for pop ups 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing yeh with nuisance fish makes sense. I looked at using d rig kickers at one point as this is an easier solution to what you've got there. Yeh I was fishing hinges the other day and just think for this time of year and in silt they're too obvious. Fishing very low kind of half withys I guess now
Good stuff mate
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@@Kb11466 I've actually ordered some D rig kickers to try with the new hook clips as I like the idea of changing the hook after a fish. I often like to shorten down the withy too especially fishing in silt this time of year 😉
if you want to change hooks, make your D-rigs like Mike Holly does. Easy to tie and hooks are easily changed. @@SimonDewCarpFishing
What a pallava!
Worth it for that one special fish mate 😉
No idea of the name of the rig but Elliott Gray was the first person i saw piercing the tubing with a needle to thread the line through. He's been using it for donkeys years and uses a split shot below the tubing and he almost always uses it with a popup.
its called the line aligner . was actually first used by jim gibbinson , i remember seeing diagrams of how to tie it in his books in the early 90's so 20 years before elliot grey made it popular again
@@lordamercy5609 Cheers for the info.
Why not just use a normal multi rig? Is it not pretty much the same style the same mechanics? With the multi you can change the hook. Some coating could be stripped before the hook to add the supple section you mentioned. Would be interested to hear your thoughts, cheers mate
I like the multi rig mate but have had the D section slip on big casts. Also I like hooking on a pva bag which would cause it to slip. The doubled up D section offers slightly less movement to the bait as its thicker so the hook ring swivel doesn't slide so readily. Both rigs are great and catch fish but this is fine tuned and when fishing for 1 or two bites a session I don't mind tying new ones 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing fair enough mate, the slipping was a concern of mine too with pva bags, but apparently you can add a pva foam nugget inside the d / attach the mesh bag to the d with pva tape instead, I’m going to try next session. Cheers for the reply:)
That's a doohickey rig! An evolution from the basic complicated German noodle chod hermit D Ronnie.
Haha sounds like a bit of a mouthful!
I can’t see and different from just using a kicker or a hook liner that you can buy that pushes over the hook
I get your point mate but I'd rather choose the size and shape of my line aligners. The preformed ones are definitely not as good 😉
Do you reckon a wide gape hook would work on this rig?
Yes it would be fine I just think it's slightly better the way I do it here 😉
Ok thanks
And are the boillies personal preference or should i use yours
Lots of baits are good and again it's up to you really but I have confidence in what I use after catching plenty of fish using it 👌
Thanks for replying to all my comments great vid could be our do one on your lead and how you are able tie it im pretty new to fishing so this helps alot thanks for the help
Would it be best to use outurned eye or can it also be straight?
For reference I am looking at the pole position x Chod , their s type hook, and the ESP cyrogen chod-hammer. I am from the US so I’m fairly new to this and don’t have access to angling iron.
A straight eye will work fine too mate although I prefer a chod style hook. 👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing Ok I’ll try a chod style hook out in that case, thanks!
Dew rig if your going to name it.
Haha cheers but I didn't invent it 👍
What size lead do you use?
Depends on the distance I'm fishing generally 3oz up to 80 yards then 4oz for further distances.
Have you guys ever thought about the amount of contradiction in carp fishing. Short rigs supple braid stiff d rigs no movement loads if movement high quality baits but then put plastic on our hook links. Palm test it turns it flips oh no this doesn't flip and turn but catches every rig with an explanation and reason for using always totally contradicts the other. 17:32
It's because every lake is different and not all carp feed in the same way. Rigs come about because people are trying to overcome a problem or certain situation perhaps after watching a feeding carp in the edge. Certain target fish may feed very slowly for example and a stiff short rig is good in this situation. Over a spread of bait or deep siilt a long rig is good. Solid bags and tight bait or in winter a shorter rig. Each rig has its place and that's what keeps carp fishing challenging and interesting 👍
Palm test is indeed bs. A hook in a carp's mouth is never moving the same way as dragging it on your palm. Picking it up by the bait in a bucket of water and seeing how the hook flips form all the direction it might get picked up by the fish woud be better, I think
I'd call it a combi rig mate, if it has 2 different types of braid, or hook material wouldn't it be a combi slip d, or combi multi???
I guess it doesn't matter what it's called it works and that's all that matters 👍
I'm at a loss to what this is does differently to the blow back rig with a wiffy...
The only thing i see differently is selling a product.
I love a blowback rig too mate but I've found on waters with nuisance fish especially roach etc messing about with it you can get the hair tangling round the hook. This rig always resets and rever tangles. I prefer to know I'm fishing 100% 👌
A neater way is to whip some amnesia or bristle to your hook opposite barb. Then tie your hook on with braid and line align it. Then pierce a hole with a needle at the eye and punch your stiff material through the shrink and eye then blob. Enjoy
Anglingiron closed till 2nd october 😢
That's a shame but I guess we all need a holiday 👌
Yes it's a OK rig like many others, it's caught you big fish because there were big fish present in the venue. Can't catch what ain't there. You seem a competent angler but Any D rig will drop the hook down as the carp sucks up the bait, you were pulling the back half of the rig to demonstrate the turn which happens afterwards as the rig tightens to the lead. As I say from my 45 years of carp angling, theres nothing wrong with this rig but rather ordinary. Maybe call it the Limelight Rig.😊
Less rigging, more fishing! The most devastating rig of all is the D Rig. Everything else is just another fisherman who got bored while waiting for his beep.
Nothing wrong with tinkering but yes the D is a killer rig 😉
except when it wraps around the shank and renders the rig utterly useless... ;-)
@@jp8710 Never had that happened
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Too much is made of rigs these days. It's obvious what works. Just keep it simple.
They all work I agree but it's good to have options if you feel you should be catching more 😉
Hey you could make a round circular thing and call it a wheel.
That's a good shout I could make millions 😂
Not my favorite
Find the bait tangles round the hook
If you set it up as I have this literally never happens. Make sure your material is semi stiff and the D not too big 👍
oh god another rig 🤣
I know right! I just keep tweaking but that's what makes it exciting for me when you change things and results improve!
If your just starting you don’t know about other rigs so I thought this was a good demo
Seriously???? 😢😢
Yep!
New rig 😂was doin this in the 80s nothing new despite the waffle
He only said it was new to him, not staking any claims to it's invention? What's your go to rig as you've been fishing so long, if you don't mind me asking?
Stop Jim Bob. Go away.
Everyone is trying to make a name for themselves Scott Lloyd Gareth Farnham etc by claiming to invent rigs that we’re doing the rounds decades ago !! As mentioned he doesn’t claim that in this case
Always one. He just said it was new to him. Great video again
As already mentioned I've not claimed to have invented anything and even said I'd seen a video on the rig hence why I tried it. If you want to be negative this isn't the channel for you 👍
.. the only think I liked in this video- ceramic scissors. The rest- just waste of time.
Have you tried it? Since using this rig I've caught 2 x 50s 5 x 40s and numerous other fish and lost very few calling it a waste of time without trying it is a waste of time in my opinion. This rig is quite possibly the best wafter type presentation you can achieve with today's materials. Also I agree ceramic scissors are the bomb 😜