Dallas Willard's articulation of the 'Gospel' is still my favourite and I find the most enlightening: "The availability of the Kingdom of the Heavens" or, "The availability of the Kingdom of God". I'm really glad Wright addressed this, because nothing follows from only the forgiveness of sins, and the Gospel is not less than this, but it is much more."
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@@NTWrightOnline I haven't seen it but I'll check it out! Fun fact, I've recently become Anglican. Cheers from Canada! Also, I'd love for the writer Dr. Daniel Austin Napier to get more press for the great work he's doing in this area. I think Tom would really like him if he hasn't already heard of him. :)
“The gospel isn’t just a message but a new reality.” Oh, that the Body Of Christ would commit herself daily to letting God make her a new & different reality on the earth. This video was so inspiring. Worship of God springs naturally from Wright’s teachings.
John 18 (KJV) 36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 2 Peter 3 (KJV) 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Revelation 21 (KJV) 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
@Norman Fisk I don't know if you question was for me or not. But more correctly there are not "commands" as in legislation given by God for us to obey. The Hebrew word that is often translated into English as "obey" is two Hebrew words which mean "listen" and "heed" or "keep". There is no ancient Hebrew word for "obey"..What is often seen as commands are in fact instructions for us to know. They aren't laws as in you ought to do this but instructions for us to learn. See how that changes your question
This is so helpful and refreshing. I always did my butterfly work and felt so "secular." But now, listening to Dr. Wright, I have a new wind and excitement from the Sprit that my work is in the context of this new creation, heralding the kingdom and showing others God's glory in butterflies.
The ultimate event of God's promise to rescue his creation, has taken place in the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of the world's true King, Jesus.
Beautifully put...I have struggled with opening conversations with some of the sick and injured persons that i have had opportunities to care for. This has given me great clarity... "Good news mantra" Preceded by James 1:19 of course Thank you
Your kind presence is a witness of God's kingdom to those who are sick or injured. It is a beautiful ministry to go where the pain is and bring the heart of God. --NTW Online Team
J.I. Packer has a great line: N T Wright foregrounds what the Bible backgrounds, and backgrounds what the Bible foregrounds but Wright does more than that; he denies a crucial component of justification, namely imputation. So, in answer to your question, yes-in denying imputation, Wright is preaching another gospel.
Can we have the gospel apart from Christ becoming sin for us who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him? 2 Cor. 5:21. In other words the "Gospel of God" which is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. I now have an alien righteousness imputed to me by God's grace alone. I have entered the kingdom of God through the work of the Holy Spirit now to live to delight and glorify him.
The day I got saved, it was when after hearing the GOSPEL (nothing about some kingdom) of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, and understanding that I was hell bound because of my sin; and that Jesus died on the cross to pay that debt in full and that by repenting of my sin and believing on Him as my Savior I would escape that judgment and condemnation. That is the gospel of Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life. He is the Door. He is the true bread. Preaching the "kingdom" is irrelevant without first preaching personal salvation through His redemptive work on the cross. 1 COR. 15: 1-8 JN. 5:24, 3:16
@@murraylloyd6011 "repent" as it relates to salvation and eternal life simply means to agree with God (under conviction of the holy Spirit) that my sin leaves me under the condemnation of the Righteous Judge, and that turning to Christ and His finished work (death, burial and resurrection) is the only way to escape eternal damnation. It is not promising never to sin again, or trying to do better; it is a change of mind and attitude, based on the Truth of scripture.
@@murraylloyd6011Letting God know you’re choosing to follow Him and submit to His will, and turning away from sin. This doesn’t mean you’ll never sin again, & the Bible says no man except Jesus is sinless(ecc. 7:20, rom. 3:23), so don’t beat yourself up if you fall (rom. 8:1-2). Just turn back to God & keep fighting!
I would think that "The Good News" is also that God has actually taken up residence in individual humans and, by extension, collections of individuals. Yes/no? "Practicing the Presence" is one way to appreciate that good news.
What biblical text that explains the good news explains the good news as taking up residence? I don't disagree that this is a biblically supported reality, but I do appreciate that Wright here points us to Scripture that focuses the good news squarely on Jesus and not so much on how we might, as individuals, benefit from it. But, I completely agree with you, that Jesus is more than a far away king like Caesar sitting Rome, but He intimately resides within us. Amazing!
We would agree that the indwelling of God in individuals is a part of the message, but that idea also probably needs some amount of separation and clarification. What you mention seems to be one of the realities Paul and the other Apostles realized and developed into a robust system as they were reflecting on what the work of Christ actually entailed in the lives of the family of Jesus. There's probably a lot of these branches of thought that we can see as true, stemming from the beating heart of the Gospel. What else might be there?
saying the gospel doesn't include within its definition the substitutionary death of Jesus - which enables sinners to have the righteousness of God accessible to them - seems awfully heretical.
NTW is not saying Jesus saves is not part of the gospel. He is explaining the why of salvation mentioned in other parts of the bible, particularly in Isaiah and by Paul. The bigger story of salvation is much more than personal salvation to go to heaven.
Correct! Prof. Wright sometimes likes to say that the Gospel means more than just Jesus dying for us as individuals, but it is certainly not less that Jesus dying for us! The main point here is to put it in the context within which it would originally have been understood, including both the Roman counter-examples and the long Jewish expectations.
Yes, Wright will sometimes deemphasize things for rhetorical effect, but he isn't tossing out those ideas. I suppose that he has spent so much time in Paul's letters that Peter's comment in 2 Peter 3.16 is nearly as applicable to N.T. Wright as it is to Paul himself. (And I do mean that as an affectionate compliment. Wright is my favorite living theologian.)
I have read several of Tom Wright's works on this issue and I still don't understand how his understanding of the Gospel is good news to sinners or why Christ had to die on the cross. How is this not just a moral code? Finally, I agree Romans 1:1b-5a is a great beginning description of the Gospel, however, Romans 1:16-17 is its grand outcome: "the gospel of God, which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord, through whom we have received grace . . . For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, 'But the righteous man shall live by faith.'”
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Christ died for our justification and lived for our righteousness. Our sins are imputed to him; his righteousness is imputed to us. It’s all Christ. Not of works so that no man may boast.
You the man, Dr. Wright! I'm currently reading your excellent work Surprised by Scripture. What you're actually saying throughout it all (whether you realize it or not) is that the division of religion-science-politics from each other is not a naturally occurring social phenomena but rather that of a very intentional social engineering by the elite who stand to benefit. A timely message indeed! You should just go full maverick and author a book on western history's secret societies being part of the root spiritual problem. T'would be legendary.
The word gospel in Greek is εὐαγγέλιον (euangelion), which literally means “good news.” Actually, the Old English word “news” is a plural word. “New” is the singular; “news” is plural. And so, sometimes in Greek, it’s the same euangelia, “good newses,” as it might be. And that’s what you find, interestingly, in the first century with some of the great inscriptions honoring the Roman Emperors - that, when it’s the accession day of, say, Augustus Caesar, or when it’s his birthday, you sometimes have it carved in stone, that this is the good news, that we have an emperor who has brought peace to the Roman world. Well, that wasn’t always such good news for the people who had been trampled on in the way, but we’ll leave that to one side. The point is that if somebody in Greece or Turkey or North Africa heard the word euangelion, or euangelia, “good news,” that might be one of the first things that they would think of. Unless they were well-taught Jews who had been reading their Bibles in Greek, as many often did. Because in Isaiah - Isaiah 40 and Isaiah 52 - you get the same word: “How lovely upon the mountains are the feet of the one who brings good news, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, your God reigns.” And when we find “good news” in the New Testament - So Jesus, say, at the beginning of Mark’s Gospel, coming into Galilee, saying, “The time is fulfilled. God’s kingdom is at hand. Repent and believe the good news,” what he seems to be doing is very clearly evoking Isaiah in order to confront the world which is full of other people’s good news, which may not be such good news. But what is the good news of Isaiah? It is that the creator God is at last taking his power and reigning and putting things right. That’s what it means to talk about the kingdom of God. The good news of the kingdom is that the God who made the world, who has longed to rescue and redeem it from its trouble, is now at last doing so, even though it’s not going to look like most people thought it would. Now, for Jesus himself, it looks very much like the agenda which you find right through Isaiah 40 to 55, stated in chapter 40, climaxing in 52 and 53, resulting in the new covenant of Isaiah 54 and the new creation of Isaiah 55. You can see all that going on in Jesus’s teaching and the New Testament. But for Paul, it’s very interesting, because I grew up in a world where “the gospel” was the message that “we’re all sinners, but Jesus died in our place, so - phew! - we get to go to heaven if we believe in him.” And sometimes people used to peg that on, say, Romans 1:16 and 17: “In [the gospel] is revealed the righteousness of God.” And they say, well, that’s the righteousness that we need so that God will accept us. That’s a misreading of Romans 1:16ff. But it’s actually a misreading, more particularly, of the beginning of Romans. Because in Romans 1:3-4, Paul actually gives his definition of the gospel. And his definition of the gospel isn’t about a mechanism whereby we can get saved. It is about the reality that Jesus, the son of God, the descendant of the seed of David according to the flesh, has now, having been crucified, been designated son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead. And he is now the Lord of the world. And he summons all people everywhere to live under his lordship, which means turning away from idols, i.e., repenting of sin and the idolatry which causes it, and trusting him, not so that we can then escape this world and go somewhere else called heaven, but so that, as he establishes his sovereign rule on earth as in heaven, we can be already, in the present, gospel-people, people who are, in our own lives, living, breathing, advance-examples of the new creation which he is going to bring about. So the gospel has Isaianic roots. It has perhaps Roman Imperial targets, in that, when people said, “Here’s the gospel of Jesus,” some people would definitely hear this as, “Here is a different message to the one we’ve been getting from the Roman Empire.” After all, Caesar called himself “son of God.” And the Christians talked about “a gospel of the son of God.” Especially in the Letter to the Romans, that was quite in your face. But the Christians were nothing daunted. They went on saying, “Jesus is the gospel in person.” And when Jesus himself went about announcing that this was time for God to become king, he called what he was doing “the gospel.” And he was doing it as well as saying it. Because the gospel isn’t just a message about something which might happen to us. It is a new reality, born through Jesus, energized through his Spirit, catching us up within it, to be gospel-people, people who, in ourselves, as well as in what we say, are signs of the good news that the living God is reclaiming, redeeming, transforming his creation at last.
When a person becomes 'in Christ', that person is reckoned 'righteous', which means 'innocent'. That person also is joined to the family of God. The Holy Spirit has brought us into the family of God and, therefore, we will be spared from the wrath to come. Being 'vindicated' (counted innocent) is the core meaning of the Greek words surrounding what happens to us when we become part of God's family by faith.
Yes, the gospel is about Jesus. In America we make everything about us (me). For example we must remember the bible was written for me but not to me. The bible points to Jesus not me. The gospel that Paul preached was the good news of Jesus not just my personal salvation. It’s Jesus, Jesus, Jesus! Thank you Dr. Wright.
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1 Corinthians 15 (KJV) 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. John 18 (KJV) 36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 2 Peter 3 (KJV) 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Revelation 21 (KJV) 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
One resource to start out with might be 'Simply Good News'. If you're looking for a deeper dive, 'The Resurrection of the Son of God', but of course, there are many, many others! We also have 40 online courses (including both of these books) at www.ntwrightonline.org/courses Do others have recommendations?
can you please make a video regarding the genealogy of Christ , because Luke s perspective comes from the lines of Jonathan who was another son of David and Matthew present us through the lines of Solomon the wise king . and stating the fact that he descended from David not being physically born of David.
Thanks for reaching out! The genealogies in Matthew and Luke bring out different points the authors wanted to make about the identity of Jesus. While both trace Jesus's legal lineage through his adoptive father Joseph, part of what Matthew sought to show was Jesus's royal connection to David and Abraham. Luke wanted to trace Jesus's genealogy to Adam, as Jesus is the savior of all humanity. Genealogies in that context worked in a theological frame, perhaps different than the way we would think of the purpose of a genealogy in modern terms. If you want to learn more about the purpose of the Gospels and how genealogies were used, please check out our self-paced online courses on Matthew and Luke at www.admirato.org/collections --NTW Online Team
Paul's gospel was given to him by Christ [Galatians 1:11-12 KJV] which God will use to judge man [Romans 2:16 KJV] is found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. read verse 2b carefully and believe.
It's wrong though. God isn't going to restore the earth, but destroy it. Salvation is to be made new in Jesus, the new man. John 18 (KJV) 36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 2 Peter 3 (KJV) 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Revelation 21 (KJV) 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
@@crutherfordmusic do you want to take this apart? I find this interesting because I see your point because it used to be my own. But these days I've been seeing it different.
@@MadebyKourmoulis I explain it in this video - ruclips.net/video/qWcTMGg5yhQ/видео.html Basically, this entire creation is corrupt. The spiritual powers who are our enemy must be destroyed. And the destiny of the Church is to replace them. Ephesians 6 (KJV) 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Revelation 3 (KJV) 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Revelation 2 (KJV) 26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. This is why you see some similarities between the beast and the Church of Jesus Christ - seven heads on the beast, seven Churches. And we see the Church going up, a war in heaven, and satan being cast down (Revelation 12). 1 John 3 (KJV) 1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. The saints will judge the world: 1 Corinthians 6 (KJV) 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Revelation 5 (KJV) 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. Revelation 16 (KJV) 1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. satan an his angels (the "gods") who have dominion over the earth will die like men: Psalm 82 (KJV) 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Mr Wright, what should be good news starting with the Jews and later the rest of the nations, it must be taken into account that for some Jews a crucified Messiah was unacceptable, for the simple reason that they expected a king who would rise up in weapons against the Roman Empire, and for the Gentiles the Jewish Christ was a failed god who died on the cross. But the apostles and disciples understood the true message of victory and joy.
This is the salient question, isn't it? Lacking any perfect English equivalent, the old English "Gospel" stuck, but like so many theological terms, it's really just an everyday idea. Something like "public service announcement" might be more accurate! But the Gospel, the "good news" is firstly a story, a narrative, albeit a true one, not a fiction in the slightest. This is the meaning of the Four "Gospels," though the narrative actually continues into Acts with the coming of the Holy Spirit and the calling of Paul. Then, in the second place we have the many implications, the theological implications of this story of Jesus of Nazareth, and this is what Paul has in mind when he speaks (somewhat arrogantly, at least superficially) of "my gospel." Thanks again to Bishop Tom Wright for nudging us back on track, lest we veer off the well trodden path of the Apostolic teaching.
If the Gospel is about this new reality, then surely that includes the method of transformation which is placing one’s faith in Christ. After all, if one holds that He’ll exists, then surely it’s good news to be transformed to part of this new reality via faith and be spared destruction? And it seems this is what is referred to in verse 5 of Romans 1: the transformation of the person via faith.
One way to think about this would be to trust in God who has come to rescue his people and through the forgiveness of sins, which sets them free from the powers of Sin and death.
The Apostle Paul seems to clearly identify the gospel in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4. And Roman's 10:9-10. It would have been preferable for him to at least quote and give references to these verses.
All that he said at first was fine, until he talked about not going to heaven. I wish he would back that up with texts. I thought the scripture said 1 Thessalonians 5:17 "After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord IN THE AIR. And so we will be with the Lord forever." and 1 Peter 3:13 "But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH, where righteousness dwells."
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Everything in this video is wonderful! There's one glaring issue as I read and hear from N.T. Wright. The gospel according to N.T. Wright leaves people in their sin with no "mechanism" (using his word) for redemption. The New Testament very clearly gives us the "mechanism" and in fact states that the gospel IS "the power of God for salvation" and that we will be "justified by faith" and that Christ is "the propitiation for our sins" for "He who knew not sin, became sin, so that we might become the righteousness of God." Wright gives us the glory and power of Christ with no hope of being united with him as our victor. I don't understand what I'm missing in the teachings of N.T. Wright. His writings can be so awkward and lead to so many dead ends. I want to follow along, but he never connects the dots. He seems to cherry pick verses and passages. Does Wright truly believe you must throw out penal substitutionary atonement in order to uphold a Christus victor view? That's nonsense. They're both true. But if only Christus Victor is true, we are lost in our sin. Rescuing humanity from the powers of darkness does not rescue us from our own sin and our own "good deeds" are without power, because we are not justified by keeping the law, but through faith in the work of Chirst.
Much of what you said in there Wright would affirm, others he'd affirm while redefining the terms, others he'd deny. For example, he would affirm that Christ is the propitiation for our sins, but he would not define that as a satisfaction of the justice of God, he would point back to the mercy seat on the Ark of the Covenant. From what I understand of him, he would say we are identified as the people of God (what "justified" means to him) by allegiance to Jesus, not by keeping the ceremonial Jewish law. We will be saved if we go on to live according to Covenant principles--keeping the law of Christ (this is a very Catholic view of salvation). When you look at New Perspectivism (NP) as a whole, it becomes clear that it pushes out the Protestant view of salvation by necessity. They can't coexist. Different view of God's holiness, man's sinfulness, salvation, the purpose of the church, etc. It's different all the way down.
I don't see how a new reality is mutually exclusive to the Gospel message. If I knew more about what you mean by this new reality I might accept it, but it has to include the gospel message. The new reality isn't defined well at all and it sounds pretty subjective.
The Good News is the coming Kingdom of God. It’s Christ’s Kingdom(under the Father of course). Christ is the King of kings in that Kingdom. But Christ’s Kingdom is NOT of this world(John 18:36). The Kingdom of God is a literal Kingdom, now in Heaven, but soon to come to this earth(Daniel 2:44; Revelation 11:15). God’s Kingdom cannot be obtained by the physical but only after a rebirth into the Spirit realm( John 3:3-8; 1Corinthians 15:50). God promises positions of authority with Christ in His Kingdom at His return, but only to those who have conquered as Christ Himself conquered(Revelation 2:26-27; 3:21)”He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says unto the Churches” v22.
Thank you for your reflections, Mike. We always appreciate engagement with our content and we like to hear the perspectives of others. N.T. Wright did another video on the Kingdom, perhaps you would like to hear more: ruclips.net/video/Q6ZK_9FEr0Q/видео.html. We'd also love to hear any further thoughts you have. Thanks again for sharing your reflections! --NTW Online Team
Turns out this isn’t a video that answers the question proposed. N.T Write displays in this video that He lacks understanding of the atonement. Yes, Jesus is real, risen, and reigning, but that is only good news if He has reconciled sinners through His atonement. Otherwise Jesus would not be able to have something called Justice as a reality of his coming kingdom.
@@joeljessen the prideful and boastful nature you must have to write the sentence ‘N.T Wright lacks understanding’. Incredible. Oh to have such confidence strutting through life!
@@ldevon2318 My attitude neither proves nor disproves the statement I made. For the record, it made me sad. N.T Write said a lot of things that I agree with in this video, yet his words regarding the Gospel are concerning. He said Christ's death isn't necessary for people to be made righteous (2:55) and he also said the Gospel isn't a mechanism by which people can be saved (3:09). Now if you tried to argue that these statements are just his comments on Romans, then I would respond by saying, the title of this video is ''What is the Gospel?'' with that being said. N.T Write used the short time in this video in order to undo two key aspects of the atonement. The point that Jesus is king, was a correct statement, yet the Good News is most definitely that Christ the king is also the means of redemption for His people through His shed blood.
@@joeljessen Create your own body of work and achievements. Nobody is listening to you on these issues. Thousands listen and learn from N.T Wright. Have a think about that. I wonder, and you should too, why is that? Rhetorical.
The number of followers doesn't make someone correct. Furthermore, being correct on some issues, doesn't make someone correct on every issue. I'm not saying N.T Wright has nothing to teach. My comments are specific about this video and the presentation of the Gospel. It isn't about me, it's about Christ. Think about this. From Revelation 1:4-6 (ESV) ''John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father-to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.'' My comment to the video remains. Christ has freed us from our sins through His blood. leaving out this aspect of Christ's work on the Cross is concerning. It's clearly propositioned by scripture as necessary, and important. The fact which N.T Wright brings up about Jesus reigning as king is true, and seen in these verses, yet that point should not be made at the expense of the greater point. The attornment.
@@joeljessenplease refer to my last comment. I bet you could’ve written a book by now. Channel your efforts into something important not the RUclips comment section. God bless.
Very interesting, so I take it the gospel from your perspective, isn’t “repent and believe” or “believe and be baptized” it’s more so, “repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand” and you can be a part of it. This is intriguing, but I cant figure out why this is leading John MacArthur (my favorite Nestorian) and RC Sproul (my favorite presbapterian) to call you a heretic. Thoughts?
Thank you for your insightful reflections! Perhaps the best way to understand "why" is to keep hearing more from N.T. Wright. I think you may find this video also interesting: ruclips.net/video/72NvP1b82yg/видео.html. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Regards, NTW Online Team
So you don't define the gospel (ie, good news) via scripture interpreting itself, but by the cultural context in which that phrase was written? In other words, scripture is not sufficient, in itself, to give you the information needed to understand the phrase "good news"? You need an outside source from the scriptures to really understand what is meant by the term "good news"? Oh my! Not good.
Here's one way to think about it from a different angle, perhaps. No written material, whatever it may be, can be interpreted without the surrounding context, whether it is literary context, historical context, or geographical context. Even the idioms used in language require some cultural knowledge. Thus, interpreting 'good news' (Greek- evangelion), involves understanding how and why it means what it means within the context of the first century Greco-Roman world.
@@NTWrightOnline I'll give you that context helps interpret what's being written, however, in this instance scriptural context trumps historical or cultural context. In your video above, you made it clear that you're retro interpreting Isaiah utilizing the cultural context in which the epistles and New Testament were written. In other words, you're using Roman culture's definition for "good news" to explain what Isaiah meant, when it should be the other way around. Our understanding of "good news" should first be dictated by how it's explained in Isaiah, not the culture of Jesus' time. Now why should this be? Because scripture is intended to be a stand alone document that allows one to know God and what He's done on its own, especially for those unable to have access to anything historical; scripture is given with that in mind. Obviously not all of Christiandom is ignorant to the history of scripture, so the historical context isn't to be ignored, but scripture is to get priority to defining things over the historical and cultural contexts. Scripture is sufficient to interpret itself and utilizing anything outside of it to explain it (and thus change how it's understood) is a violation of its authority.
@@naterock369 The problem is that people interpret differently the scriptures. If your interpretation of scripture lines up with the historical context you are probably right. After all the scriptures were writen to people in another culture. You need to know about their cultures and the Bible alone cannot give you ton of information. For example, you don't gain much from Genesis if you read it by 21 century lenses and you don't know anything about the pagan gods of the surrounding nations as well as their beliefs about the world. You won't get much from John 1 either if you don't know how different people understood the word "Logos" and why John choses that word to use for Jesus.
Havent heard the actual gospel here......almost unknown today......REAL gospel can be found at 1 COR 15:1-4.......don't add or subtract anything or you will be under the curse of Galations 1.............spread the word!...........
This man denies penal substitutionary atonement. He isn't a Christian, and is preaching another Gospel, which Paul says is not another Gospel, and Paul says the man that preaches another Gospel, he is under the curse of God. That God will damn him.
This is a terrible misreading of Scripture (2:37-4:15). "Sometimes people used to peg that on, say, Romans 1:16&17." Yes, that's what the Reformation was about! Luther, Calvin, Cranmer, et. al. Wright is peddling neo-nomianism (new law-ism), not the good news of Christ's death on our behalf unto eternal life.
We are commanded by Messiah that, “...repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.” (Luke 24:47). In other words, we are supposed to preach the gospel that came out of Jerusalem and not preach the gospel that came out of Antioch, or Rome, or England, or New York, or Chicago, etc. By the time the gospel got to Antioch it had already been perverted as we read, “...And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.” (Acts 11:26). The problem with this is that YHWH spoke of a people called by His name (Deuteronomy 28:10; 2 Chronicles 7:14; Isaiah 43:6, 7; Daniel 9:19; Amos 9:12; Acts 15:17). YHWH did not choose the name “Christian” for Himself. The people of Antioch chose that name and all the so called main denominations of today embrace that name “Christian” for themselves. When Peter and Paul preached the gospel they quote the prophet Joel, “Whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be saved.” (Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom. 10:13). The English word "Lord" is not a translation for the name YHWH but is a substitution. I ask you, how many of the church fathers and so called main denominations of today preach that gospel? None of them. Absolutely none! Paul makes it crystal clear that the end result of him preaching the gospel was that the people would call on the name YHWH. He says in (Rom. 10:14,15), The preachers are sent. They preach. The people hear. The people believe. The people call on the name YHWH (Rom. 10:13). I ask you, how many of the church fathers and so called main denominations of today preach that gospel? None of them. Absolutely none! It took only one generation after the death of Joshua for the children of Israel to forget the mighty works of YHWH which He had worked through Moses and Joshua and to began to serve the elohim of the heathen people around them (Judges 2:7-13). It took only one generation! The most important thing that I learned in life is about the mikvah for the bride of Christ. A mikvah is a pool of water used for immersion. It has been used for thousands of years in the Bible and it is still being used today by both Jews and Christians. However, Christian denominations have turned baptism into an initiation for lifetime membership into their particular denomination. However, most believers know that Christ is coming back for His bride. But I just found out last year that every Jewish bride immerses herself in a mikvah before her marriage ceremony. Therefore, the reason I am telling you and my family and friends about this is that the next time you are in a pool of water immerse yourself as a mikvah to be part of the Bride of Christ calling on the name of Yahweh (Jesus = Yahoshuah = Yahweh salvation) for the remission of sins. ... ...
Jesus is not Yeshua. Yeshua is Metatron aka satan. Acts 4 (KJV) 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
How can someone has so much knowledge of the Bible and yet be so wrong about what the Gospel is? Wright is redefining the clear Biblical definition of the Gospel. And, while doing so, he presents another Gospel. And that isn't a Gospel. So sad 😞
I believe you are the one who is so wrong about what the Gospel is... "Wright is redefining the clear Biblical definition of the Gospel"? I don't see anything he said to redefine the 4 gospels or the other New Testament books
Galatians 1:6-9 (ESV): I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. This is exactly what just happened here. Where was Christ crucified in this? This was so sad to hear.
This world is going to be destroyed, not renewed. Eternal life is in Jesus, the new man. The Gospel you've presented is the Gospel of satan, the synagogue of satan and the antichrist. 2 Peter 3 (KJV) 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 1 Corinthians 15 (KJV) 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. Here's the Gospel according to Paul: 1 Corinthians 15 (KJV) 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 10 (KJV) 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Ephesians 2 (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
NTW. I’ve read all your books and because you are held in high academic regard, I have found it difficult to admit that the emperor has no clothes. Much of your writing is Gobbledegook. Not even Jesus would understand what you are preaching.
Why would you say such a mean and vicious thing? If you are a believer wholesome words filled with grace should come out of your mouth even toward those whom you disagree with. You can disagree with Dr Wright without vindictiveness and slander.
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Thank you for your reply and cordiality. My biggest issue with Dr. Wright in this video is that at 2:40 he presents a caricaturization of the atoning working of Christ and then goes on to say that we have “misread” Romans 1:16-17. By virtue of that answer, then “we” must’ve been misreading Romans 3:23-25. Which is about justification and the atoning working of Christ through the shedding of his blood on the cross. To say that the gospel is not about forgiveness of sins by the merits of the bloody cross- but rather it’s about Christ being “designated son of god in power” through the crucifixion is a half-truth. And therefore a whole lie. This would mean that for 2,000 years of Christian history, Believers have been in error. Is Dr. Wright really suggesting that him and E.P. Sanders are the first ones to probably exegete the book of Romans? Wouldn’t this also mean we’ve been misinterpreting Galatians too? When you take away Penal Substitutionary Atonement, or place it on some back burner as he does, you have a different gospel than the one Paul actually preached. N. T. Is purposefully obfuscating the doctrine of justification through this strange new hermeneutic he’s added to the Pauline Epistles. So, yes, in my analysis, he is a false teacher.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I understand discussions on justification can be complex and sometimes lead to misunderstandings. N.T. Wright's perspective on justification is rooted deeply in scripture and focuses on a covenantal understanding rather than some traditional views that were heavily influenced by Martin Luther. Wright shows the importance of understanding justification in its original context, as Paul and his contemporaries would have understood it, rather than through the lens of later church tradition. Wright argues that justification should be viewed within the broader narrative of God's covenant with Israel and its fulfillment in Jesus as Messiah. This approach contrasts with aspects of the traditional Western view, which has been significantly shaped by Reformation-era debates. Wright believes that many Western church traditions have, over time, become untethered from the Jewish roots that were integral to Paul and Jesus's teachings. By returning to these roots, we gain a richer and deeper understanding of terms like justification, as they were originally intended within the context of first-century Judaism. Understanding justification as Paul did means recognizing it as part of God's larger plan to restore and renew the entire creation through his covenant with Israel, now extended to all through Christ. This perspective invites us to deepen our comprehension by exploring the historical and cultural context of the scriptures. We invite you to explore Wright's teachings for a more detailed explanation of his views. A good start starting point would be his book, "Justification," where he addresses many common objections in his own words. For further study, we also recommend "The Day the Revolution Began." Both of these books thoroughly address the concerns you've raised, as they focus extensively on these topics. We value diverse perspectives and we want to foster a respectful dialogue within our community. Thank you for engaging with our content. --NTW Online Team
@@NTWrightOnline Your patience and respect is admirable. I too, want to foster respectable dialogue. However, do you not see the blatant hubris in this thesis? Are you actually going to articulate that Wright is the first theologian to properly understand Justification in two millennia? One of the principles of biblical interpretation is to do so through the lens of church history. If the “traditional view” of justification as you put it, was actually incepted during the reformation, then the “new perspective of Paul” would have been prevalent and widely understood by the church fathers? Would you please, in the spirit of scholarship, provide me with one church father who viewed Justification as covenantal and not about a man’s individual righteous standing before the almighty? Because Augustine, Aphraates, Clement of Rome, Polycarp, and Justin Martyr all believed and understood justification in the same way Luther did. I have read Wrights “What St. Paul really said” and walked away confused as he never gives a clear answer- and only tap dances around his claims. In addition to the church father citation, would you be willing to exegete 2 Corinthians 5:21, Romans 5:1-2, Galatians 3:11-14, James 2:23-26, and Titus 3:5-7 for me? Since myself, and every other believer has been doing it wrong? What do these passages mean in light of N.T. Specials revelation? Thank you!
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Dallas Willard's articulation of the 'Gospel' is still my favourite and I find the most enlightening: "The availability of the Kingdom of the Heavens" or, "The availability of the Kingdom of God". I'm really glad Wright addressed this, because nothing follows from only the forgiveness of sins, and the Gospel is not less than this, but it is much more."
Yes, much more! We appreciate your thoughts, thank you for engaging with our video. Have you seen our "Thinking Through Salvation" series? ruclips.net/p/PLXeyTV5HCr-AQSN7hrF0n76ZaiESIl2wS We'd love to know what you think!
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@@NTWrightOnline I haven't seen it but I'll check it out! Fun fact, I've recently become Anglican. Cheers from Canada! Also, I'd love for the writer Dr. Daniel Austin Napier to get more press for the great work he's doing in this area. I think Tom would really like him if he hasn't already heard of him. :)
“The gospel isn’t just a message but a new reality.” Oh, that the Body Of Christ would commit herself daily to letting God make her a new & different reality on the earth. This video was so inspiring. Worship of God springs naturally from Wright’s teachings.
John 18 (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
2 Peter 3 (KJV)
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 21 (KJV)
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
@@crutherfordmusic yes, what’s your point?
@@Adam-to9gp "My kingdom is not of this world"
"new heavens and a new earth"
" the first heaven and the first earth were passed away"
@@crutherfordmusic is is "MY kingdom is not from this world" it's authority
@Norman Fisk I don't know if you question was for me or not. But more correctly there are not "commands" as in legislation given by God for us to obey. The Hebrew word that is often translated into English as "obey" is two Hebrew words which mean "listen" and "heed" or "keep". There is no ancient Hebrew word for "obey"..What is often seen as commands are in fact instructions for us to know. They aren't laws as in you ought to do this but instructions for us to learn. See how that changes your question
I like to listen to NT Wright, such good teaching xx
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The gospel comforts and sets my heart at peace.
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This is so helpful and refreshing. I always did my butterfly work and felt so "secular." But now, listening to Dr. Wright, I have a new wind and excitement from the Sprit that my work is in the context of this new creation, heralding the kingdom and showing others God's glory in butterflies.
We get to live as New Creation, Kingdom of God people, reflecting God back to the world!
The ultimate event of God's promise to rescue his creation, has taken place in the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of the world's true King, Jesus.
Beautifully put...I have struggled with opening conversations with some of the sick and injured persons that i have had opportunities to care for.
This has given me great clarity...
"Good news mantra"
Preceded by
James 1:19 of course
Thank you
Your kind presence is a witness of God's kingdom to those who are sick or injured. It is a beautiful ministry to go where the pain is and bring the heart of God.
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J.I. Packer has a great line: N T Wright foregrounds what the Bible backgrounds, and backgrounds what the Bible foregrounds but Wright does more than that; he denies a crucial component of justification, namely imputation. So, in answer to your question, yes-in denying imputation,
Wright is preaching another gospel.
He’s preaching the real gospel. Not the story of the Middle Ages
Can we have the gospel apart from Christ becoming sin for us who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him? 2 Cor. 5:21. In other words the "Gospel of God" which is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. I now have an alien righteousness imputed to me by God's grace alone. I have entered the kingdom of God through the work of the Holy Spirit now to live to delight and glorify him.
The day I got saved, it was when after hearing the GOSPEL (nothing about some kingdom) of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, and understanding that I was hell bound
because of my sin; and that Jesus died on the cross to pay that debt in full
and that by repenting of my sin and believing on Him as my Savior I would escape that judgment and condemnation.
That is the gospel of Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life. He is the Door. He is the true bread.
Preaching the "kingdom" is irrelevant without first preaching personal salvation through His redemptive work on the cross.
1 COR. 15: 1-8
JN. 5:24, 3:16
Amen!!!
Question: what do you mean by "repenting of my sin."
@@murraylloyd6011 "repent" as it relates to salvation and eternal life simply means to agree with God (under conviction of the holy Spirit) that
my sin leaves me under the condemnation of the Righteous Judge, and that turning to Christ and His finished work (death, burial and resurrection)
is the only way to escape eternal damnation.
It is not promising never to sin again, or trying to do better; it is a change of mind and attitude, based on the Truth of scripture.
@@murraylloyd6011Letting God know you’re choosing to follow Him and submit to His will, and turning away from sin. This doesn’t mean you’ll never sin again, & the Bible says no man except Jesus is sinless(ecc. 7:20, rom. 3:23), so don’t beat yourself up if you fall (rom. 8:1-2). Just turn back to God & keep fighting!
Easier said then done though, so it’s important not to unhealthily compare your relationship w/ God to someone else’s. 😊
OK! Amen.
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Brilliantly put!
I would think that "The Good News" is also that God has actually taken up residence in individual humans and, by extension, collections of individuals. Yes/no? "Practicing the Presence" is one way to appreciate that good news.
What biblical text that explains the good news explains the good news as taking up residence? I don't disagree that this is a biblically supported reality, but I do appreciate that Wright here points us to Scripture that focuses the good news squarely on Jesus and not so much on how we might, as individuals, benefit from it. But, I completely agree with you, that Jesus is more than a far away king like Caesar sitting Rome, but He intimately resides within us. Amazing!
We would agree that the indwelling of God in individuals is a part of the message, but that idea also probably needs some amount of separation and clarification. What you mention seems to be one of the realities Paul and the other Apostles realized and developed into a robust system as they were reflecting on what the work of Christ actually entailed in the lives of the family of Jesus. There's probably a lot of these branches of thought that we can see as true, stemming from the beating heart of the Gospel. What else might be there?
saying the gospel doesn't include within its definition the substitutionary death of Jesus - which enables sinners to have the righteousness of God accessible to them - seems awfully heretical.
Yes this is a common objection to N T Wright. I fully agree too, his message is another gospel which should be rejected
Indeed.
He speaks a lot of empty words.
NTW is not saying Jesus saves is not part of the gospel. He is explaining the why of salvation mentioned in other parts of the bible, particularly in Isaiah and by Paul. The bigger story of salvation is much more than personal salvation to go to heaven.
I think you’ve misunderstood what he’s saying.
Yes the gospel is more than just ‘Jesus died for me’, but surely it’s also that as well?
I think perhaps he isn't abandoning Jesus died for me so much as calling our attention to what we are saved for rather than from.
Correct! Prof. Wright sometimes likes to say that the Gospel means more than just Jesus dying for us as individuals, but it is certainly not less that Jesus dying for us! The main point here is to put it in the context within which it would originally have been understood, including both the Roman counter-examples and the long Jewish expectations.
Yes, Wright will sometimes deemphasize things for rhetorical effect, but he isn't tossing out those ideas. I suppose that he has spent so much time in Paul's letters that Peter's comment in 2 Peter 3.16 is nearly as applicable to N.T. Wright as it is to Paul himself. (And I do mean that as an affectionate compliment. Wright is my favorite living theologian.)
I don't think he has any idea what the gospel is.
@@genebaker6964 whatever the gospel is, it's not reflected in the kind of comment you have just made.
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I have read several of Tom Wright's works on this issue and I still don't understand how his understanding of the Gospel is good news to sinners or why Christ had to die on the cross. How is this not just a moral code?
Finally, I agree Romans 1:1b-5a is a great beginning description of the Gospel, however, Romans 1:16-17 is its grand outcome: "the gospel of God, which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord, through whom we have received grace . . . For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, 'But the righteous man shall live by faith.'”
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Christ died for our justification and lived for our righteousness. Our sins are imputed to him; his righteousness is imputed to us.
It’s all Christ. Not of works so that no man may boast.
You the man, Dr. Wright! I'm currently reading your excellent work Surprised by Scripture. What you're actually saying throughout it all (whether you realize it or not) is that the division of religion-science-politics from each other is not a naturally occurring social phenomena but rather that of a very intentional social engineering by the elite who stand to benefit. A timely message indeed! You should just go full maverick and author a book on western history's secret societies being part of the root spiritual problem. T'would be legendary.
The main Goodnews is Eternal Life...
If I were an unbeliever, how do you present to me the gospel?
Thank you, Father Tom!
Are you Good News? Trying asking your family or neighbours, or maybe your co workers!
The word gospel in Greek is εὐαγγέλιον (euangelion), which literally means “good news.” Actually, the Old English word “news” is a plural word. “New” is the singular; “news” is plural. And so, sometimes in Greek, it’s the same euangelia, “good newses,” as it might be.
And that’s what you find, interestingly, in the first century with some of the great inscriptions honoring the Roman Emperors - that, when it’s the accession day of, say, Augustus Caesar, or when it’s his birthday, you sometimes have it carved in stone, that this is the good news, that we have an emperor who has brought peace to the Roman world.
Well, that wasn’t always such good news for the people who had been trampled on in the way, but we’ll leave that to one side.
The point is that if somebody in Greece or Turkey or North Africa heard the word euangelion, or euangelia, “good news,” that might be one of the first things that they would think of.
Unless they were well-taught Jews who had been reading their Bibles in Greek, as many often did. Because in Isaiah - Isaiah 40 and Isaiah 52 - you get the same word: “How lovely upon the mountains are the feet of the one who brings good news, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, your God reigns.”
And when we find “good news” in the New Testament - So Jesus, say, at the beginning of Mark’s Gospel, coming into Galilee, saying, “The time is fulfilled. God’s kingdom is at hand. Repent and believe the good news,” what he seems to be doing is very clearly evoking Isaiah in order to confront the world which is full of other people’s good news, which may not be such good news.
But what is the good news of Isaiah? It is that the creator God is at last taking his power and reigning and putting things right. That’s what it means to talk about the kingdom of God. The good news of the kingdom is that the God who made the world, who has longed to rescue and redeem it from its trouble, is now at last doing so, even though it’s not going to look like most people thought it would.
Now, for Jesus himself, it looks very much like the agenda which you find right through Isaiah 40 to 55, stated in chapter 40, climaxing in 52 and 53, resulting in the new covenant of Isaiah 54 and the new creation of Isaiah 55. You can see all that going on in Jesus’s teaching and the New Testament.
But for Paul, it’s very interesting, because I grew up in a world where “the gospel” was the message that “we’re all sinners, but Jesus died in our place, so - phew! - we get to go to heaven if we believe in him.”
And sometimes people used to peg that on, say, Romans 1:16 and 17: “In [the gospel] is revealed the righteousness of God.” And they say, well, that’s the righteousness that we need so that God will accept us.
That’s a misreading of Romans 1:16ff. But it’s actually a misreading, more particularly, of the beginning of Romans. Because in Romans 1:3-4, Paul actually gives his definition of the gospel. And his definition of the gospel isn’t about a mechanism whereby we can get saved. It is about the reality that Jesus, the son of God, the descendant of the seed of David according to the flesh, has now, having been crucified, been designated son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead. And he is now the Lord of the world. And he summons all people everywhere to live under his lordship, which means turning away from idols, i.e., repenting of sin and the idolatry which causes it, and trusting him, not so that we can then escape this world and go somewhere else called heaven, but so that, as he establishes his sovereign rule on earth as in heaven, we can be already, in the present, gospel-people, people who are, in our own lives, living, breathing, advance-examples of the new creation which he is going to bring about.
So the gospel has Isaianic roots. It has perhaps Roman Imperial targets, in that, when people said, “Here’s the gospel of Jesus,” some people would definitely hear this as, “Here is a different message to the one we’ve been getting from the Roman Empire.” After all, Caesar called himself “son of God.” And the Christians talked about “a gospel of the son of God.” Especially in the Letter to the Romans, that was quite in your face. But the Christians were nothing daunted. They went on saying, “Jesus is the gospel in person.”
And when Jesus himself went about announcing that this was time for God to become king, he called what he was doing “the gospel.”
And he was doing it as well as saying it. Because the gospel isn’t just a message about something which might happen to us. It is a new reality, born through Jesus, energized through his Spirit, catching us up within it, to be gospel-people, people who, in ourselves, as well as in what we say, are signs of the good news that the living God is reclaiming, redeeming, transforming his creation at last.
So very well said. Thank you, Andrew!
But we do need the righteousness of Christ to be saved from God's wrath. Right?
When a person becomes 'in Christ', that person is reckoned 'righteous', which means 'innocent'. That person also is joined to the family of God. The Holy Spirit has brought us into the family of God and, therefore, we will be spared from the wrath to come. Being 'vindicated' (counted innocent) is the core meaning of the Greek words surrounding what happens to us when we become part of God's family by faith.
Yes, by faith in the finished work of Christ.
Beautifully stated.
Yes, the gospel is about Jesus. In America we make everything about us (me). For example we must remember the bible was written for me but not to me. The bible points to Jesus not me. The gospel that Paul preached was the good news of Jesus not just my personal salvation. It’s Jesus, Jesus, Jesus! Thank you Dr. Wright.
Spot on! 🙏🏻🕊️
The Gospel is Christ Himself(Ro.1:1-4)
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It seems pretty clear to me. We turn from idols, trust Jesus, and recreate the world. That’s an evangelistic call if I’ve seen one.
What a wonderful exposition, Dr. Wright! We are New Creation examples.
1 Corinthians 15 (KJV)
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
John 18 (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
2 Peter 3 (KJV)
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 21 (KJV)
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
1 Corinthians 15.1-7.
I would love to deepen on his perspective on what is the gospel, what should i read?; is there any book or article that could help me?
One resource to start out with might be 'Simply Good News'. If you're looking for a deeper dive, 'The Resurrection of the Son of God', but of course, there are many, many others!
We also have 40 online courses (including both of these books) at www.ntwrightonline.org/courses
Do others have recommendations?
@@NTWrightOnline Thank you!
I just finished the course on Luke's Gospel. I think i'll go for The Resurrection of the Son of God.
Matthew Mark Luke and John
can you please make a video regarding the genealogy of Christ , because Luke s perspective comes from the lines of Jonathan who was another son of David and Matthew present us through the lines of Solomon the wise king . and stating the fact that he descended from David not being physically born of David.
Thanks for reaching out! The genealogies in Matthew and Luke bring out different points the authors wanted to make about the identity of Jesus. While both trace Jesus's legal lineage through his adoptive father Joseph, part of what Matthew sought to show was Jesus's royal connection to David and Abraham. Luke wanted to trace Jesus's genealogy to Adam, as Jesus is the savior of all humanity. Genealogies in that context worked in a theological frame, perhaps different than the way we would think of the purpose of a genealogy in modern terms. If you want to learn more about the purpose of the Gospels and how genealogies were used, please check out our self-paced online courses on Matthew and Luke at www.admirato.org/collections
--NTW Online Team
Paul's gospel was given to him by Christ [Galatians 1:11-12 KJV] which God will use to judge man [Romans 2:16 KJV] is found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. read verse 2b carefully and believe.
Good explanation
It's wrong though. God isn't going to restore the earth, but destroy it. Salvation is to be made new in Jesus, the new man.
John 18 (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
2 Peter 3 (KJV)
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 21 (KJV)
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
@@crutherfordmusic do you want to take this apart? I find this interesting because I see your point because it used to be my own. But these days I've been seeing it different.
@@MadebyKourmoulis I explain it in this video - ruclips.net/video/qWcTMGg5yhQ/видео.html
Basically, this entire creation is corrupt. The spiritual powers who are our enemy must be destroyed. And the destiny of the Church is to replace them.
Ephesians 6 (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Revelation 3 (KJV)
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Revelation 2 (KJV)
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
This is why you see some similarities between the beast and the Church of Jesus Christ - seven heads on the beast, seven Churches. And we see the Church going up, a war in heaven, and satan being cast down (Revelation 12).
1 John 3 (KJV)
1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
The saints will judge the world:
1 Corinthians 6 (KJV)
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Revelation 5 (KJV)
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Revelation 16 (KJV)
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
satan an his angels (the "gods") who have dominion over the earth will die like men:
Psalm 82 (KJV)
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
@@crutherfordmusic God is going to purify the earth. Just like He did with the flood but this time is gonna be with fire and is gonna last forever.
Mr Wright, what should be good news starting with the Jews and later the rest of the nations, it must be taken into account that for some Jews a crucified Messiah was unacceptable, for the simple reason that they expected a king who would rise up in weapons against the Roman Empire, and for the Gentiles the Jewish Christ was a failed god who died on the cross. But the apostles and disciples understood the true message of victory and joy.
So what is the gospel? The simplicity of it It got lost in all the words....
He doesn't know.
3:09 start here.
It’s that Jesus is King, and we are invited to live and participate in his kingdom here and now.
To quote Peter Boghossian “you are SO British”
Unfortunately we heard the deformed and church made good news. Thanks Dr.
This is the salient question, isn't it?
Lacking any perfect English equivalent, the old English "Gospel" stuck, but like so many theological terms, it's really just an everyday idea. Something like "public service announcement" might be more accurate!
But the Gospel, the "good news" is firstly a story, a narrative, albeit a true one, not a fiction in the slightest. This is the meaning of the Four "Gospels," though the narrative actually continues into Acts with the coming of the Holy Spirit and the calling of Paul.
Then, in the second place we have the many implications, the theological implications of this story of Jesus of Nazareth, and this is what Paul has in mind when he speaks (somewhat arrogantly, at least superficially) of "my gospel."
Thanks again to Bishop Tom Wright for nudging us back on track, lest we veer off the well trodden path of the Apostolic teaching.
Nope.
Not all public service announcement are referred to as "good news", "evangelion".
It's a specific one that's meant to be a "good news".
If the Gospel is about this new reality, then surely that includes the method of transformation which is placing one’s faith in Christ. After all, if one holds that He’ll exists, then surely it’s good news to be transformed to part of this new reality via faith and be spared destruction? And it seems this is what is referred to in verse 5 of Romans 1: the transformation of the person via faith.
Ok then, So how do I have my sin forgiven and avoid the justice of eternal wrath due me?
One way to think about this would be to trust in God who has come to rescue his people and through the forgiveness of sins, which sets them free from the powers of Sin and death.
@@NTWrightOnline i see. thanks, ill consider this.
The Apostle Paul seems to clearly identify the gospel in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4. And Roman's 10:9-10. It would have been preferable for him to at least quote and give references to these verses.
All that he said at first was fine, until he talked about not going to heaven. I wish he would back that up with texts. I thought the scripture said 1 Thessalonians 5:17 "After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord IN THE AIR. And so we will be with the Lord forever." and 1 Peter 3:13 "But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH, where righteousness dwells."
@zacharyspeights8703 Thank you for engaging theology. We invite you to explore these topics and more on our free discussion platform at Admirato.org, the home of N.T. Wright Online. www.admirato.org/products/communities/freestudyhall All are welcome!
Everything in this video is wonderful! There's one glaring issue as I read and hear from N.T. Wright. The gospel according to N.T. Wright leaves people in their sin with no "mechanism" (using his word) for redemption. The New Testament very clearly gives us the "mechanism" and in fact states that the gospel IS "the power of God for salvation" and that we will be "justified by faith" and that Christ is "the propitiation for our sins" for "He who knew not sin, became sin, so that we might become the righteousness of God." Wright gives us the glory and power of Christ with no hope of being united with him as our victor. I don't understand what I'm missing in the teachings of N.T. Wright. His writings can be so awkward and lead to so many dead ends. I want to follow along, but he never connects the dots. He seems to cherry pick verses and passages. Does Wright truly believe you must throw out penal substitutionary atonement in order to uphold a Christus victor view? That's nonsense. They're both true. But if only Christus Victor is true, we are lost in our sin. Rescuing humanity from the powers of darkness does not rescue us from our own sin and our own "good deeds" are without power, because we are not justified by keeping the law, but through faith in the work of Chirst.
Much of what you said in there Wright would affirm, others he'd affirm while redefining the terms, others he'd deny. For example, he would affirm that Christ is the propitiation for our sins, but he would not define that as a satisfaction of the justice of God, he would point back to the mercy seat on the Ark of the Covenant. From what I understand of him, he would say we are identified as the people of God (what "justified" means to him) by allegiance to Jesus, not by keeping the ceremonial Jewish law. We will be saved if we go on to live according to Covenant principles--keeping the law of Christ (this is a very Catholic view of salvation). When you look at New Perspectivism (NP) as a whole, it becomes clear that it pushes out the Protestant view of salvation by necessity. They can't coexist. Different view of God's holiness, man's sinfulness, salvation, the purpose of the church, etc. It's different all the way down.
I don't see how a new reality is mutually exclusive to the Gospel message. If I knew more about what you mean by this new reality I might accept it, but it has to include the gospel message. The new reality isn't defined well at all and it sounds pretty subjective.
Good stuff! (No pun intended) 🙂
But pun very much appreciated!
The Good News is the coming Kingdom of God. It’s Christ’s Kingdom(under the Father of course). Christ is the King of kings in that Kingdom. But Christ’s Kingdom is NOT of this world(John 18:36). The Kingdom of God is a literal Kingdom, now in Heaven, but soon to come to this earth(Daniel 2:44; Revelation 11:15). God’s Kingdom cannot be obtained by the physical but only after a rebirth into the Spirit realm( John 3:3-8; 1Corinthians 15:50). God promises positions of authority with Christ in His Kingdom at His return, but only to those who have conquered as Christ Himself conquered(Revelation 2:26-27; 3:21)”He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says unto the Churches” v22.
Thank you for your reflections, Mike. We always appreciate engagement with our content and we like to hear the perspectives of others.
N.T. Wright did another video on the Kingdom, perhaps you would like to hear more: ruclips.net/video/Q6ZK_9FEr0Q/видео.html.
We'd also love to hear any further thoughts you have. Thanks again for sharing your reflections!
--NTW Online Team
Turns out this isn’t a video that answers the question proposed.
N.T Write displays in this video that He lacks understanding of the atonement.
Yes, Jesus is real, risen, and reigning, but that is only good news if He has reconciled sinners through His atonement.
Otherwise Jesus would not be able to have something called Justice as a reality of his coming kingdom.
@@joeljessen the prideful and boastful nature you must have to write the sentence ‘N.T Wright lacks understanding’. Incredible. Oh to have such confidence strutting through life!
@@ldevon2318 My attitude neither proves nor disproves the statement I made. For the record, it made me sad. N.T Write said a lot of things that I agree with in this video, yet his words regarding the Gospel are concerning. He said Christ's death isn't necessary for people to be made righteous (2:55) and he also said the Gospel isn't a mechanism by which people can be saved (3:09). Now if you tried to argue that these statements are just his comments on Romans, then I would respond by saying, the title of this video is ''What is the Gospel?'' with that being said. N.T Write used the short time in this video in order to undo two key aspects of the atonement. The point that Jesus is king, was a correct statement, yet the Good News is most definitely that Christ the king is also the means of redemption for His people through His shed blood.
@@joeljessen Create your own body of work and achievements. Nobody is listening to you on these issues. Thousands listen and learn from N.T Wright. Have a think about that. I wonder, and you should too, why is that? Rhetorical.
The number of followers doesn't make someone correct. Furthermore, being correct on some issues, doesn't make someone correct on every issue. I'm not saying N.T Wright has nothing to teach. My comments are specific about this video and the presentation of the Gospel. It isn't about me, it's about Christ.
Think about this. From Revelation 1:4-6 (ESV)
''John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father-to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.''
My comment to the video remains. Christ has freed us from our sins through His blood. leaving out this aspect of Christ's work on the Cross is concerning. It's clearly propositioned by scripture as necessary, and important. The fact which N.T Wright brings up about Jesus reigning as king is true, and seen in these verses, yet that point should not be made at the expense of the greater point. The attornment.
@@joeljessenplease refer to my last comment. I bet you could’ve written a book by now. Channel your efforts into something important not the RUclips comment section. God bless.
Very interesting, so I take it the gospel from your perspective, isn’t “repent and believe” or “believe and be baptized” it’s more so, “repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand” and you can be a part of it. This is intriguing, but I cant figure out why this is leading John MacArthur (my favorite Nestorian) and RC Sproul (my favorite presbapterian) to call you a heretic. Thoughts?
Thank you for your insightful reflections! Perhaps the best way to understand "why" is to keep hearing more from N.T. Wright. I think you may find this video also interesting: ruclips.net/video/72NvP1b82yg/видео.html. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Regards, NTW Online Team
@@NTWrightOnline thanks I’ll check it out
It’s weird how people in church don’t even accept these truths because preachers have neglected to bring these ideas to their flock .
So you don't define the gospel (ie, good news) via scripture interpreting itself, but by the cultural context in which that phrase was written?
In other words, scripture is not sufficient, in itself, to give you the information needed to understand the phrase "good news"? You need an outside source from the scriptures to really understand what is meant by the term "good news"?
Oh my! Not good.
Here's one way to think about it from a different angle, perhaps. No written material, whatever it may be, can be interpreted without the surrounding context, whether it is literary context, historical context, or geographical context. Even the idioms used in language require some cultural knowledge. Thus, interpreting 'good news' (Greek- evangelion), involves understanding how and why it means what it means within the context of the first century Greco-Roman world.
@@NTWrightOnline I'll give you that context helps interpret what's being written, however, in this instance scriptural context trumps historical or cultural context. In your video above, you made it clear that you're retro interpreting Isaiah utilizing the cultural context in which the epistles and New Testament were written. In other words, you're using Roman culture's definition for "good news" to explain what Isaiah meant, when it should be the other way around. Our understanding of "good news" should first be dictated by how it's explained in Isaiah, not the culture of Jesus' time. Now why should this be?
Because scripture is intended to be a stand alone document that allows one to know God and what He's done on its own, especially for those unable to have access to anything historical; scripture is given with that in mind.
Obviously not all of Christiandom is ignorant to the history of scripture, so the historical context isn't to be ignored, but scripture is to get priority to defining things over the historical and cultural contexts.
Scripture is sufficient to interpret itself and utilizing anything outside of it to explain it (and thus change how it's understood) is a violation of its authority.
@@naterock369 The problem is that people interpret differently the scriptures. If your interpretation of scripture lines up with the historical context you are probably right.
After all the scriptures were writen to people in another culture. You need to know about their cultures and the Bible alone cannot give you ton of information.
For example, you don't gain much from Genesis if you read it by 21 century lenses and you don't know anything about the pagan gods of the surrounding nations as well as their beliefs about the world.
You won't get much from John 1 either if you don't know how different people understood the word "Logos" and why John choses that word to use for Jesus.
Havent heard the actual gospel here......almost unknown today......REAL gospel can be found at 1 COR 15:1-4.......don't add or subtract anything or you will be under the curse of Galations 1.............spread the word!...........
This man denies penal substitutionary atonement. He isn't a Christian, and is preaching another Gospel, which Paul says is not another Gospel, and Paul says the man that preaches another Gospel, he is under the curse of God. That God will damn him.
This is a terrible misreading of Scripture (2:37-4:15). "Sometimes people used to peg that on, say, Romans 1:16&17." Yes, that's what the Reformation was about! Luther, Calvin, Cranmer, et. al. Wright is peddling neo-nomianism (new law-ism), not the good news of Christ's death on our behalf unto eternal life.
Tom, you're terribly confusing because you're terribly confused and don't appear to know it! Hopefully not 2 Timothy 3:13!
We are commanded by Messiah that, “...repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.” (Luke 24:47). In other words, we are supposed to preach the gospel that came out of Jerusalem and not preach the gospel that came out of Antioch, or Rome, or England, or New York, or Chicago, etc. By the time the gospel got to Antioch it had already been perverted as we read, “...And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.” (Acts 11:26). The problem with this is that YHWH spoke of a people called by His name (Deuteronomy 28:10; 2 Chronicles 7:14; Isaiah 43:6, 7; Daniel 9:19; Amos 9:12; Acts 15:17). YHWH did not choose the name “Christian” for Himself. The people of Antioch chose that name and all the so called main denominations of today embrace that name “Christian” for themselves. When Peter and Paul preached the gospel they quote the prophet Joel, “Whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be saved.” (Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom. 10:13). The English word "Lord" is not a translation for the name YHWH but is a substitution. I ask you, how many of the church fathers and so called main denominations of today preach that gospel? None of them. Absolutely none!
Paul makes it crystal clear that the end result of him preaching the gospel was that the people would call on the name YHWH. He says in (Rom. 10:14,15), The preachers are sent. They preach. The people hear. The people believe. The people call on the name YHWH (Rom. 10:13). I ask you, how many of the church fathers and so called main denominations of today preach that gospel? None of them. Absolutely none!
It took only one generation after the death of Joshua for the children of Israel to forget the mighty works of YHWH which He had worked through Moses and Joshua and to began to serve the elohim of the heathen people around them (Judges 2:7-13). It took only one generation!
The most important thing that I learned in life is about the mikvah for the bride of Christ.
A mikvah is a pool of water used for immersion.
It has been used for thousands of years in the Bible and it is still being used today by both Jews and Christians. However, Christian denominations have turned baptism into an initiation for lifetime membership into their particular denomination.
However, most believers know that Christ is coming back for His bride. But I just found out last year that every Jewish bride immerses herself in a mikvah before her marriage ceremony.
Therefore, the reason I am telling you and my family and friends about this is that the next time you are in a pool of water immerse yourself as a mikvah to be part of the Bride of Christ calling on the name of Yahweh (Jesus = Yahoshuah = Yahweh salvation) for the remission of sins.
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Jesus is not Yeshua. Yeshua is Metatron aka satan.
Acts 4 (KJV)
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
How can someone has so much knowledge of the Bible and yet be so wrong about what the Gospel is?
Wright is redefining the clear Biblical definition of the Gospel. And, while doing so, he presents another Gospel. And that isn't a Gospel.
So sad 😞
I believe you are the one who is so wrong about what the Gospel is...
"Wright is redefining the clear Biblical definition of the Gospel"?
I don't see anything he said to redefine the 4 gospels or the other New Testament books
I do not oppose this
bovine excrement ! 1 Cor 15 gives the definition of the 'Gospel'.-read your Bible folks!
Galatians 1:6-9 (ESV): I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
This is exactly what just happened here. Where was Christ crucified in this? This was so sad to hear.
This world is going to be destroyed, not renewed. Eternal life is in Jesus, the new man. The Gospel you've presented is the Gospel of satan, the synagogue of satan and the antichrist.
2 Peter 3 (KJV)
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
1 Corinthians 15 (KJV)
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Here's the Gospel according to Paul:
1 Corinthians 15 (KJV)
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Romans 10 (KJV)
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Ephesians 2 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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A work of fiction. A bit like Harry Potter.
NTW. I’ve read all your books and because you are held in high academic regard, I have found it difficult to admit that the emperor has no clothes. Much of your writing is Gobbledegook. Not even Jesus would understand what you are preaching.
Why would you say such a mean and vicious thing? If you are a believer wholesome words filled with grace should come out of your mouth even toward those whom you disagree with. You can disagree with Dr Wright without vindictiveness and slander.
False teacher. False Gospel.
Thank you for taking the time to watch our video. I'm sorry to hear that you disagree with the content. We are welcome to constructive feedback so if there are specific points you disagree with, we'd be interested in hearing more about them. What specifically was said in this video that seems false to you? Please provide a timestamp, if possible, so we can make sure we have it right. We're always open to respectful dialogue and learning from different perspectives. --NTW Online Team
Thank you for your reply and cordiality. My biggest issue with Dr. Wright in this video is that at 2:40 he presents a caricaturization of the atoning working of Christ and then goes on to say that we have “misread” Romans 1:16-17. By virtue of that answer, then “we” must’ve been misreading Romans 3:23-25. Which is about justification and the atoning working of Christ through the shedding of his blood on the cross. To say that the gospel is not about forgiveness of sins by the merits of the bloody cross- but rather it’s about Christ being “designated son of god in power” through the crucifixion is a half-truth. And therefore a whole lie. This would mean that for 2,000 years of Christian history, Believers have been in error. Is Dr. Wright really suggesting that him and E.P. Sanders are the first ones to probably exegete the book of Romans? Wouldn’t this also mean we’ve been misinterpreting Galatians too? When you take away Penal Substitutionary Atonement, or place it on some back burner as he does, you have a different gospel than the one Paul actually preached. N. T. Is purposefully obfuscating the doctrine of justification through this strange new hermeneutic he’s added to the Pauline Epistles. So, yes, in my analysis, he is a false teacher.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I understand discussions on justification can be complex and sometimes lead to misunderstandings.
N.T. Wright's perspective on justification is rooted deeply in scripture and focuses on a covenantal understanding rather than some traditional views that were heavily influenced by Martin Luther. Wright shows the importance of understanding justification in its original context, as Paul and his contemporaries would have understood it, rather than through the lens of later church tradition.
Wright argues that justification should be viewed within the broader narrative of God's covenant with Israel and its fulfillment in Jesus as Messiah. This approach contrasts with aspects of the traditional Western view, which has been significantly shaped by Reformation-era debates.
Wright believes that many Western church traditions have, over time, become untethered from the Jewish roots that were integral to Paul and Jesus's teachings. By returning to these roots, we gain a richer and deeper understanding of terms like justification, as they were originally intended within the context of first-century Judaism.
Understanding justification as Paul did means recognizing it as part of God's larger plan to restore and renew the entire creation through his covenant with Israel, now extended to all through Christ. This perspective invites us to deepen our comprehension by exploring the historical and cultural context of the scriptures.
We invite you to explore Wright's teachings for a more detailed explanation of his views. A good start starting point would be his book, "Justification," where he addresses many common objections in his own words. For further study, we also recommend "The Day the Revolution Began." Both of these books thoroughly address the concerns you've raised, as they focus extensively on these topics.
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@@NTWrightOnline Your patience and respect is admirable. I too, want to foster respectable dialogue. However, do you not see the blatant hubris in this thesis? Are you actually going to articulate that Wright is the first theologian to properly understand Justification in two millennia? One of the principles of biblical interpretation is to do so through the lens of church history. If the “traditional view” of justification as you put it, was actually incepted during the reformation, then the “new perspective of Paul” would have been prevalent and widely understood by the church fathers? Would you please, in the spirit of scholarship, provide me with one church father who viewed Justification as covenantal and not about a man’s individual righteous standing before the almighty? Because Augustine, Aphraates, Clement of Rome, Polycarp, and Justin Martyr all believed and understood justification in the same way Luther did. I have read Wrights “What St. Paul really said” and walked away confused as he never gives a clear answer- and only tap dances around his claims. In addition to the church father citation, would you be willing to exegete 2 Corinthians 5:21, Romans 5:1-2, Galatians 3:11-14, James 2:23-26, and Titus 3:5-7 for me? Since myself, and every other believer has been doing it wrong? What do these passages mean in light of N.T. Specials revelation? Thank you!
@@NTWrightOnline Where do we stand on that church father and the scripture exegesis?