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Hey so here's a little dagger for the old heartstrings: remember the game Vi told Caitlyn about, inventing bigger and scarier monsters until it got too scary and she had to chase her monsters away? Jinx remembers: "Make her go away. Please?"
This callback is very on the nose for those who pay attention, but also it points out that Powder never existed as a real option ever since they met the first time in ep.6. Her abandonment disorder, her self caused PTSD, her manic behaviour even before shimmer is what sealed the deal way before the end.
@@FutayuriShironeko fair, but also... is "who I was when I was 10" an option ANY of us can choose as our identity going forward? Consider Powder for a moment. In episode one, she is scared of a kid chasing her, so she fills an improvised explosive device with nails and chucks it at the kid's feet... and she is biting her lip with excitement at the prospect of it going off. In episode 2, she gleefully announces that she's made nail bombs for the enforcers, and promises Vi that they'll work THIS time. Powder was always Jinx. She wanted to see explosions and chaos, and as long as Vi didn't get blown up, nothing else was very important about it. Jinx grew up and got BETTER at demolitions and gunplay, but her attitudes changed very little.
The thing about Silco is yes, he's manipulative, but he does genuinely care. When Vi tells Jinx to remember who she is, it's actually aggravating her trauma to almost a complete breaking point and he tries to stop it. He spends the whole series trying to keep her head in a good place because he can see her instability, and because Vi wasn't around she doesn't realize how bad it is and that she's doing the wrong thing at the time. Everyone in this series does the wrong thing constant. Super flawed characters and that's really why it is so good.
I will say, I'm not trying to defend Silco cuz he is horrible, but he did genuinely care and it's so important to me that people see just how well-written and dynamic of a villain he is.
@@sothanatoasted2972 i think more credit should be given to him honestly, like yes he is evil but he had little choice, zaun was a toxic wasteland the air so dence you couldnt breath illness all around becouse of it and piltover opresing them. Like is normal he turned evil in the end most people would.
@@TobiNano You can actually hear Vi's voice breaks a bit, when she speaks about that kid. She went through a lot of loss and it is her coping mechanism.
but obviously jayce hammer had a shield in the scene before, and well mining equipment that can block falling rocks sounds like generally a good plan, too!
Fun little coincidence, or is it? - almost all Champions (playable characters, Vi, Jayce, Viktor to name are in this list) in League of Legends who use hextech or are made of hextech have a barrier/shield ability. Exceptions are Caitlyn, beccause she has a "Hextech" gun (I say it like that cause it barely functions like a hextech invention - the gun she has in the show is just a gun as well) and Heimerdinger (who in a gameplay kind of sense isn't fighting directly per say) Wether they tied in this coincidence into the show and made it so that hextech - or the tools made of at least -has in some capacity defensive functions at the base is up to anyone's guess.
How unfortunate of your sister to be distant exactly in the last episode, she really needed emotional support. We still need it, even seeing this many times...
Honestly, I've watched countless reactions of Arcane just to relive it all over again over the last 2 years and this is one of the most enjoyable ones on youtube, not only you showed soo much compassion towards every character, you brought humor and stole many laughs from me so thank you
One small thing I love that doesn't get picked up on a lot is when Vi is trying to get Jinx to remember all the people in her life that have loved her, we see Jinx picturing all of them...except for her parents. Because she was so young when they died she probably doesn't even remember what they looked like. I absolutely *love* Silco's character in this show. A lot of the time, when a show has a "mastermind" style villian, they go too far into showing how cool and unflappable they are and it's so refreshing that this show never falls into that trap. Not only is Silco shown as being both unsure and unafraid at times, but they actually let his core character be changed because Jinx is in his life. I fully belive that he honestly loves her as his own daughter and is actively doing what he thinks is best for her in trying to harden her to a world he belives is not only unfair but actively set against them. Silco is such a facinatingly nuenced villian that I think he might be my favorite villian of all time. My prediction for next season is that everyone in that council meeting dies except for Jayce and Mal. I kind of think that whatever that gold stuff is on Mal's back that seemed to glow right before the missile hit is going to protect her and Jayce. Victor is going to die, but the Hexcore is going to bring him back to life in a form much like his leg currently is. Regardless, I cannot wait for more of this show. It's an actual masterpiece.
Real feelings can only be created by real consequences. If we know the story is going to have a happy ending, there's no need for tension. Now we know nothing can be taken for granted and anything is possible.
At the table, everything Vi was saying was causing Jinx to go crazy, and Silco was trying to get her to stop and calm Jinx down. “Think of Mylo (She sees the person that talked down to her), Claggor, Vander (she sees two people who died because of her mistake, or her “jinx” and how Vi left her alone. And she possibly sees how Vander betrayed Silco and making the undercity independent).” “Shut up! Don’t listen to her!” Silco raised Jinx from being left by Vi to that moment, so he knows what will set her off and how to calm her down. He sees Powder as Vander’s daughter and Jinx as his daughter, and truly believes that Jinx is perfect, just like he says earlier in the series when she thought she saw Vi on the boat. Bc of Vi’s words, she opens fire on the whole room and only hits Silco, and his dying words still shows how much he loves Jinx: “I never would have given you to them, not for anything. Don’t cry, you’re perfect.”
I mean none of that would be true though if Vi hadn't been imprisoned unjustly and forced to spend her life in prison, never having access to keep up with who her sister was becoming as he poisoned her mind... it's a problem of his own making.
@@Cloud_77_ I agree, Silco is a good person. Ruthless, but because he needs power to set his people free. He is like most if not all of revolutionaries in history.
@@lenajohnson6179 Silco was not behind the imprisonment of Vi ... (She came back..... from the dead?) Remember? And Silco never brainwashed Powder ... As Vi left her (She failed to come back, but from both Powder and Silco's perspective, she abandoned her.), Powder was having quite the mental breakdown. Silco only comforted her. He didn't brainwash her, he protected her and let her be who she was.
A detail no one ever seems to catch in the tea party scene: When Vi says “The only thing that kept me going was the thought of getting back to you.” This is a lie. Jinx knows it is a lie. Vi confessed to Caitlyn that she thought her sister was dead. Jinx had plenty of time to interrogate Caitlyn, which is why a cupcake was under the plate cover. The significance goes right over VI’s head. Vi is lying to herself, and does not understand that she is lying to herself. All lies are equally despicable to a Zaunite, which is what Silco means when he says “They. Will. Never. Understand.” Vi has lost her Zaun-ness. Jinx understands Vi very well. Vi understands Jinx not at all. Zaun understands Piltover very well. Piltover understands Zaun not at all. Zaun chose its own name, which Pilties refuse to acknowledge. Jinx chose her own name, which Vi refuses to acknowledge. Piltover, as a culture, is incapable of seeing that Zaun exists as a culture of its own. They call them slurs like “trenchers” and “fissure folk.” Silco is right: they will never understand until Zaun breaks away and stands on its own. One way or another, Zaun must go its own way. Geography being what it is, the two cities must eventually reconcile and find a way to coexist that is mutually beneficial…but that’s probably a generation or two in the future. For now, Zaun and Piltover have a metaphysical chasm between them. Just like Jinx and Vi. The story of the sisters is the story of the cities.
Agreed. I always read “The Monster You Created” as being Zaun. I mean peace is nice and all but even Mel’s mother said they let the Zaun fester for too long, after all these years of being screwed over would the people of Zaun even feel like peace was enough? And look at Jinx, Silco, Echo and Viktor. Had they been born in Piltover their lives would be much better(Silco clearly being a great businessman/industrialist and the others being geniuses) but being born in Zaun left them with the options and choices that led them to where they are. It’ll take decades of reform and therapy to heal a place like Zaun so just the offer of peace might feel like an insult to the people considering all they’ve gone through
Jinx does a lot of gaslighting Vi in this scene... like... she never gives Vi the CHANCE to accept her or not, which considering every action she's taken sense escaping prison and finding out Jinx is alive, all signs point to that she'd accept Jinx INSTANTLY... just obviously not as a murderous terrorist... which if ONLY Jinx understands she will ALWAYS be a terrorist, only SHE understands that the bridge is unbreachable... thus it's sort of unfair to put Vi through all of this. A fact I think Jinx recognizes by the end of the tea party as 'Here's to the new us' I feel is a little bit of Jinx freeing Vi of the 'ghost' of hope that things can ever be what they were. It's incredibly easy for most viewers to forget that Vi is ALSO a victim here for some reason... they just gloss over that she's spent half her life in prison taking beatings for NO CRIME as if that doesn't matter on the 'pitty pole' in comparison to poor poor Jinx when Jinx has only lost, EXACTLY the same amount as Vi has lost. Vi just didn't let it make her a monster, Jinx did. Obviously the city still bears an equal portion of blame... but we ALWAYS have agency in what we ALLOW the world to make us, and VI acts as the proof of that. Jinx is Jinx because of what the city has done to her yes... but also because she WANTS to be. She's allowed herself to become a mad dog that is eventually going to HAVE to be put down.
@@lenajohnson6179 IMO this take is mostly-reasonable but trying to imply that Jinx should've just not become a monster is an absurd position to take. Social pressures exist and Zaun is a second class hellscape to Piltover, buried under mountains of corruption and discrimination. It's an absurdly priviledged take to say that she should've just not let the world change her. Like wtf are you smoking. She's a child put through the death of her family and her psyche is literally crumbling around her as she struggles to cope, which we literally see happening. Complaining that someone with an MPD complex should be able to stand up to the stressers of an absurdly hard life is just ridiculous. Jinx isn't some blameless victim it's true, and while her mental illness isn't her fault, its her responsibility to manage no doubt, but she isn't some monster for being changed by the world. As they say, shit happens.
I love silcos arc from a viewer perspective. Starting as the villain and being somewhat of a tragic father by the end. Oof. Something about that final scene gets me everytime
It's a triumphant arc where the hardened revolutionary (sadly) dies to give way to the father who's prepared to do anything for his daughter, rather than the cause.
@@th3voice I mean, Silco really died at the perfect point in his arc, cuz he was never gonna just *give up* on the Nation of Zaun. Jayce's demand for Jinx's surrender just meant Silco would go about it a different way, likely involving Jinx and her newly-developed Fishbones and a *hefty* supply of Shimmer. Hextech crushes Chemtech every day, but Chemtech weaponry has the quantity and production that Hextech weaponry simply doesn't right now.
He's still a villain. He uses children to make drugs that destroy people. Like even his only redeeming quality which is his love for jinx. It pretty much just manifests in him wanting to murder her sister so that she's still only reliant on him for support. Like if anyone tells you they are the only person you can rely on that isn't cute that's abuse.
@@jediburrito I will argue that you are mistaken in your views on why Silco wants to kill Vi. In Silco's eyes, Vi is to Jinx what Vander was to him. Rewatch the show and it's obvious Silco genuinely believes Vi abandoned Powder for her warehouse bombing. Even when he confronts Marcus about Vi's survival, Marcus doesn't tell him that he stopped Vi from going back for Powder when she saw Silco standing over her. All Marcus confirms is that he found Vi and locked her up rather than killed her. Silco is a villain, but his love for Jinx is 110% genuine and coming from a place of warmth. His method of expressing that love is to try and keep her safe, even if he allows his own traumatic experiences and beliefs to color how he knows how to do that. In the case of Vi, he has every reason, from his PoV, to believe that Vi abandoned Powder and is now trying to take her back without accepting who Jinx has become, which Silco feels would inevitably lead to Vi abandoning Jinx all over again. Plus, he knows better than to let a capable person motivated by vengeance keep walking around, because they will stop at nothing to hurt him.
@@perrycarters3113 listen if you think Silco was not gonna kill Vi I have a bridge to sell you in Scotland. I dunno wtf coming from a place of "warmth" means in this context. He's mostly just setting himself up as the ONLY person she can count on therefore completely dependent on him. Is that because he just really loves her that much? Maybe. But regardless that behavior is super damaging because humans can't just rely on only 1 person in their life that's super bad.
What's so crazy is that in Episode 3, they were literally fine. They were about to get out and *Jinx* ruined it. Here in Episode 9, everything was about to be fine and guess what? *Jinx* ruined it, again. Her character is so tragic, in a good way.
I don't think it's so simple in both scenarios. In episode 3 even if they managed to get out, the results would have been same or worse because even after they get out, what next? The shimmer monsters can outrun you and pretty much there was nothing to do after the door was destroyed. In episode 9, it wasn't going to be fine. Even without jinx, Silco wasn't going to give up Jinx and nothing would have worked. And obviously after he died even less. Like they said, you can't make a deal with a snake and cut off it's head.
It’s not about the ”what ifs” like you’re saying. They clearly made it this way for a reason dude.. because she is a *Jinx.* It’s about the symbolism not the actual consequences. You’re pretty young I assume? You’re not looking at the nuances at all but purely objectively.
Her character Jinx'd everything from the moment the show started - Her parents dying at the bridge Her losing the loot Her blowing up the building and making Piltover come to the Lanes Her causing Vi to want to give herself up which led to Vander's capture Her killing her entire psuedo-family Her once again making Piltover come back to the Lanes after a 7 year time skip Her costing them all the cargo on the ship Her killing her second psuedo-family Her stopping peace and causing a war Just to name a few things she Jinx'd from the get go.
@@jonteguy even if you aren't young, you're definitley immature. Talking in such a patronizing way to a stranger who you know nothing about is just rude and comes across as very arrogant.
@@BroxigarZ I agree with this very much, however I think it places too much blame on Powder/Jinx. The catalyst for the conditions leading up to the initial war, the death of so many people, the cause of EVERYTHING that transpires... is the way Piltover treats and takes advantage of the Undercity and its' people. After literal decades or more of pure apathy towards their conditions Piltover finally looks at what they've done, and it's too late. It's arguable whether they deserve what Jinx has done to them, but they are definitely the cause.
I always see people say that they almost had peace but Jinx ruined it, but really they still weren't going to have peace because part of the deal was that Silco had to give up Jinx, which he was never going to do.
This! So many people seem to miss this? Like, it didn't even matter if the council voted yes (aside from showing that they were actually decent people). Silco would never give up Jinx, the same way that Vander would never give up Vi and gave himself up instead. They could have had peace if they sacrificed their daughters but neither was willing to do it in the end, which is the sad parallel.
@@MishaHusnainAli but vander was gave himself to have peace while silco in the other hand, I am sure is not going to give himself up for jinx. He would rather go to war etc...
True tragedy of Jinx is not that she became Jinx, but the hope that she thought she could be Powder again. She lost Powder ever since ep.4, there still were brief flashes of Powder, but Jinx was the one behind the wheel.
"It's not enough to give people what they need to survive...You have them give them what they need to live." This might be my favorite quote from the entire show.
@@ZeZapatiste Yeah, meeting Ekko is exactly what Heimerdinger needs to develop a more realistic worldview. And this meeting can also help bring Ekko the tools (both political and technological) he needs to make a bigger change.
Agreed. Though, figuring out what people actually need to live is so hard. The final confrontation between Vi and Jinx is because Vi is trying to help but doesn't understand how different Jinx is. And Silco has, in his view, always given Jinx what she needed to cope with the awful consequences of her actions I episode 3. But I don't think she ever got to a point where she could deal with the violence she was expected to be involved in. It haunted her when she was part of Vi's gang, and I think part of the craziness shown when she fights is because her saner mind is just shut down in defense.
I'm really impressed by Kiss's takes on the happenings of this episode. A LOT happens, and yet I think she was spot on with a lot of her analysis. Which is VERY hard to do in the middle of this fast paced episode. She's got a good head on her shoulders.
14 years of League of Legends. This show is the single greatest thing I've ever witnessed on motion picture. I love how a fellow player, rewatching, you're able to appreciate the minor details in this masterpeice.
It's been lovely watching you two go on this journey together. This show is SO good. I'm sure season 2 won't be quite up to the same storytelling standards, and that's fine, because this whole season 1 arc is one of the greatest accomplishments in the history of animation.
I've really enjoyed binging your reactions of this incredible series. Your personalities come through so well, it feels like I vaguely recognize you both from somewhere. Well done!
For some additional goodness, I would recommend watching the Imagine Dragons "Enemy" music video, and then going all the way back and watching the "Get Jinxed" release music video. They bookend the Arcane series so well, with Enemy giving us more of the world, and Get Jinxed being where this all started for our favorite chaos princess.
The scene where Silco says to Vi “HER NAME IS JINX”. That they will betray her, is not manipulation it’s just his point of view on life, he can relate to Jinx and comprehend her trauma. You can dissect this episode or this scene alone and you’ll have another exhilarating experience because you learned details and realistic nuances from each of the characters arcs and decisions. I don’t think you can necessarily hate any character, they’ve all been dealt a bad hand and they all have their versions of peace. At least Silco cared about someone he deemed a daughter. He knew she was dealing with schizophrenia and yet he never treated her as anything other than a daughter that is figuring it out and he’s just there if she needed him. Vi didn’t know her sisters mental warfare, and by her lack of knowledge she refuses to accept what her sister has become but Silco embraced her and let her discover her path.
To Silco, whose sole motivation is for Zaun to be out from under Piltover’s heel; for Zaun to be free to go its own way; to become whatever it’s going to become: Jinx IS Zaun. Everything he loves about his home is literally manifested and embodied in his daughter. He says this explicitly to Vi: “Candidly, I thought you were the prize of your secondhand family.” But, Jinx…she is more than I ever imagined.” (Secondhand family is not an insult. Due to the toxic air and water, poverty, and heavy-handed Piltie enforcers, many if not most families in Zaun are second-hand.)
Vi used to love all of her sister, no matter how incompetent she used to be or how she used to fack up everyting. Now Vi just wants powder back, but it doesn't work like that. Her sister isn't just powder or Jinx, it's powder plus Jinx. Where Silco, despite him being a bad person, genuinely loved all of Jinx no matter how she doesn't listen to him or how she fack up his plan. That's why she choose the Jinx seat, that's why she said to Vi "I thought maybe you coud love me like you used to, but you've changed too"
They depicted Jinx's inner demons so well (again). Vi thought she was helping. Too often things are said to help a loved one in their times of crisis and pain, but just inspire their demons more. I’m guilty of that myself with loved ones and addiction or mental health. It is only after time and reflection we sometimes realize what was said out of love to help actually made it worse.
Silco was hands down the Villain of the year 2yrs ago when this aired... Silco loved Jynx like a daughter, "I'll never Forsake you." even after she shot him he gave her positive re-enforcement (showed her love). Crazy that Vi is the one person that survives loving Jynx's, cause she killed EVERYONE ELSE that she loved.
1:06 "If we were to end this and still not know when Season 2 was coming out, I would probably cry myself to sleep tonight." 23:53 "I think I'm gonna c-- I think I AM going to cry myself to sleep tonight anyway." Not sure there's a more perfect way to bookend this episode. Well done.
It's very rare I get obsessed by a song, it's happened maybe five times ever. First one was the Jurassic Park main theme. Sting's song at the end was on repeat for days after this. He did a live performance of it at the Video Game Awards in 2021 and there are some great (and some no so great) covers of it here in RUclips.
She also ironically undoes what he wanted as well, since he just managed to get the council to give into his demands and they voted to do it and Jayce never even got his hands on Jinx. Then the first thing she does is blow them up.
@@Orapac4142 Silco says himself that he was never gonna give Jinx to them and there's no way he'd would be okay with the situation Vander tried, so even if Piltover doesn't know it, there was no other choice for the Undercity in that situation other than kaboom. Moreover, I seriously doubt that the council is going to go: "The terrorists attack us while we are voting for them to be separated from us? Never mind then! We will no longer be separating ourselves from them! 😡🤬". Petty as some of them may be, Jinx's attack is just giving them more reason to let Zaun be independent. Jinx did, however, destroy any chance of peace.
About the Hexcore, it's something Viktor worked blood and sweat for and something he hoped that would save him and the other unfortunate souls in Zaun. Viktor essentially asked Jayce to destroy his only chance for survival and Jayce knows how heavy that burden is
Here's the problem with the final "tea party scene" that everyone gets mad about Silco asserting that her name is Jinx, etc. He's right. Get as mad as you want...but he's RIGHT. Powder is gone...completely and irretrievably gone. Jinx remembers Powder, but she cannot ever BE Powder, again. And...Vi doesn't want Jinx. Vi won't accept Jinx. Vi ignores Jinx. Vi repeatedly insists that Jinx is just some silly name Silco calls her, and that she'll always be Powder no matter what. The reality is that, if somehow Jinx COULD be Powder again...Silco would miss Jinx, but in the end would still love Powder too. By contrast, Vi refuses to even admit Jinx exists. It's why Vi recklessly spouts names of people that are, to Jinx, nothing but sources of pain and shame. Monsters that traumatize her endlessly. Because Vi doesn't care about Jinx. To Vi, Jinx is just one more obstacle to overcome to get Powder back. Vi wants Jinx gone, and doesn't care what it takes. Which is why Silco loses his shit and tries to shoot Vi. Not necessarily because he's afraid of losing Jinx (he is...but that's not at issue here), but because Vi is HURTING her...and he knows it, all while Vi ignores it. Vi shows she doesn't care about Jinx. She only cares about a memory...not the person. Silco wouldn't be happy about Jinx turning back into Powder, if it were somehow possible. But I will guarantee you that he'd still accept her that way, and do everything in his power to help and support her. If Powder became her true nature, he'd still say she's perfect. But again...Vi will absolutely never accept Jinx. She can't. For all his misdeeds and flaws...Silco has always been sincere in his ideals and his bonds. He unconditionally loves Jinx, even if she went back to being Powder. Vi only loves her as Powder, and in no other way.
That also is enforced in the baptism scene. Silco tells her, "Jinx is perfect" and as he is dying, he says, "You're perfect". Also, this whole disaster happened because at the council meeting, Vi told Jayce that person behind the attacks was named Jinx (Allowing him to demand Jinx from Silco at the parley) I think to Vi, Jinx is someone else, and saying the name Jinx didn't betray her sister. She was wrong.
What an incredibly stupid take in regards to Vi telling Jinx to remember those people. Of course she wants Powder back but there was literally no way for Vi to know how those memories were haunting Jinx. It had nothing to do with whether Vi cares about Jinx or not.
@-Devy- it is objectively, observably true that regardless of her intentions, Vi invoking those names caused Jinx pain. And Jinx was not unclear about the fact that she was no longer Powder. Powder fell down a well. Is it understandable that Vi acted that way? Oh absolutely. But it's not crazy to say that she was reckless, rejecting Jinxes statement about who she is in favor of what she wanted her to be. And it's certainly how Jinx views the world. And that's part of the beauty of she show. No one is actually bad, or a true, irredeemable villain. They are stuck in a cycle of violence that they can't escape.
Somehow everyone also misses out on the fact that VI already betrayed Jinx at least twice at this point. She gave her up to the council (where she was 100% wrong on Silco's intent btw), and she's literally busy betraying her again by watching Kaitlin cut herself out of the chair just as Silco says "everyone else betrays us". As for Silco he said "all we need to do is scare them" and within hours of achieving that he got a full independence vote.
@@xanadu6784 I wouldn't say she was completely clear. She still hadn't made the decision between the chairs. Yes, she was saying that Powder fell down a well, but she was still giving Vi the hope that things could be fixed. And Vi was trying to make that happen by reminding her of her past. The main issue I think is that she doesn't know Jinx. She's been gone for years and only spoke to her once before this scene. While Silco practically raised her. I don't think you can judge Vi too harshly for not quite knowing how to handle her sister, not knowing everything that has gone wrong in her head. As much as people are making bad decisions in the series, I think a lot also just comes down to the circumstances. From the individual circumstances they each find themselves in to the overarching problem of how Undercity makes people desperate, broken and violent.
Fantastic finish for you ladies. Watching the series and watching many reactions, it never fails to wring emotions out of me. I'm sure you both would have loved to be there with each other for this episode. Congratulations on finishing College, Kiss. I hope you two have a wonderful weekend!! I cannot wait to see what you have coming in the future. Take care, H & K !!
One of my favorite things about this series is when scenes or themes repeat or rhyme over the season. "Am I interrupting?", "We'll show them all", Powder/Jinx singing that song on the bridge etc.
Something I always love to point out about Sevika is she's always improving her arm. In the first fight with Vi, she learnt she couldn't beat Vi in a fist fight, so she added a sword to her arm to give her an edge. She also ended up crippled bc she shimmer was injected externally, which gave Caitlyn an opportunity to shoot it and disable the arm, she she now has cartridges strapped to her that she puts in herself.
Silco is genuine when it comes to jinx. " you need to let powder die" is how silco let the "old him" die, it is basically him trying to tell jinx to forget about the past, powder, vi and everything, or she will never find peace, trying to tell jinx thats how silco himself found peace.
This show really shows what animation can bring to storytelling, it didn't have to relay on cartoonish expressions or silly gags. It showed real emotions and loss. No one won, everyone failed.
17:31 Hehe, i see what you did there... You guys are some of the most wholesome, fun and overall entertaining reactors i've had the pleasure to watch along with. Thank you and keep it up! 😄❤
"Nobody wins at war, Vi"...."Who are you willing to lose?" In the end Vi got her revenge and defeated Sevika and got Silco killed, but she lost Powder while Silco unleashed Jinx on the world.
One thing I love about the show is how they portrayed the concept of Morally Grey, there is nothing such as pure good or evil, both of these things can exist in various degrees
Here's why I think it works so well: Most of the time, in real life, morality has little to do with people's goals. People do things out of obligation to people they love, out of desire to help people who have suffered like them, or to fix certain parts of the world that they see as bad. Very few people care about any "objective morality" or do things simply because they are "good", and the characters in this show are realistic because despite some having "good" traits (Altruism, empathy, conviction), none of them have ALL of the good traits, and "good" people don't side with each other simply because they are good, just as "bad" people don't side with each other simply because they are good. Sure there are people in real life that are legitimate bad people and take pride in it, but they are inherently frustrating and wouldn't make sense in this show anyway.
"Today is the day you die, Silco." Never thought about that, but he's absolutely right - Silco did die on that die, just not by his hand, but by Jinx's.
Man, seeing people's reactions to the very end of the last episode is always the best. It's always a combination of sadness, shock, and a little bit of anger from how they left it.
from watching "bridging the rift", you can understand how they did this show so masterfully... they got the scenario done send it to Fortiche studio that then produce a screenplay that get sent back for approval once approval is given, they do the voice acting once voice acting is done, Fortiche then animate the show in accordance to both screenplay and voice acting the animators play the scene in front of cameras to capture the move and faces and they animate according to that also. once the animation is done, it's sent to the music and sound department to add their own magic. et voilà, chef kiss this way of doing things also may explain the delays for season 2: while they started the work when finishing season 1, there is one fact that I learned recently from Necrit: Riot made Arcane canon. It's not a show that only take the characters and animate them in a "fan fiction". It's canon. And while they can't do much to modify season 1 to stick more to the existing lore, they sure could for season 2. So my thought is that they had to modify some parts of the "original" season 2 scenario to erase some divergence and reconcile the whole show with LoL lore. Hence, they probably had to redo a lot of the work previously done on the basis of the "original" season 2 scenario. this make me think about the increasing divergences between GoT books and the show after season 3. Riot, instead, kept a tight hand on their IP and won't let the show goes it's own way... btw, your whole reaction serie on that show also made me recall the reaction to the red wedding. The lot of books fans who knew what would happen and did record the reactions of their friends. Also how those books fans managed to NOT spoil their friend. I believe this started the whole "react to a show" trend. Congrats on "sharing your pain" with your sister. (both to the season 1 and for the wait on season 2, lol)
Pleasure to watch your reaction! Hopefully season 2 really comes out end of 2024, but the good thing is they aren't forced and want to make it right. Budget and the hollywood strike should also have only an impact when it comes to the voice actors. The studio making it is from france and now part of Riot, the company behind League of Legends. Writing and music also is partly from people working at Riot.
kinda crazy how the only two times I cried throughout the series was when Silco took in Jinx, and when Silco tells Jinx that she's perfect. He wasn't perfect, but he did truly loved her.
That moment where Jace looks away from Viktor, like he's ashamed. He thinks Viktor is telling him he must destroy the hammer. The result of his hubris, the thing that murdered that innocent boy. The last thing he expected was for Viktor to understand. To know what it was to have cost someone their life with his hubris. To beg him to destroy the hex core, not knowing how much longer he would have to try to stop the dominoes falling. Jace never knew what Viktor was really going through, and that is so sad.
Silco tried to protect Jinx from Vi Silko know what he was doing becouse the some thing has happend him physic and mentality. And when you re-watch scene when he took Jinx on some place where Vander almost killed him. And them you can see that she was mentality better, she did make a weapon and then after Sevica tell her about VI. You can see in that moment mindset change/reset back. -------- Silco loved Jinx and tried to protect her. He knew about her mental illness and what triggers it. When Jinx remembers her family she has ptsd. And he realy cares for her. When Jinx kills the firelights and ruin his work Silco blames and yells Shevika but with Jinx he tells her calmly that she was wrong. When Jinx kills the enforcers Silco is angry but he wasnt going to hurt her. And Jinx didnt afraid him. He wanted to impess him. -------- As with crystal when Jinx tried to creat the weapon she had ptsd of her dead family. After the scene in the river when Silco told her to get over the past it worked. --------- Jinx continued to make the gun without any problems. All was fine unltil Vi came. When Jinx saw Vi she remembered what she did. Vi didnt know about her traumaand or how to handle it. Vi wants the best for her and keep her safe but she hurts her. I dont blame Vi. She thinks Silco is a monster and he manipulates her in his favor and she has every right to believes. Vi only know that Silco kidnapped Vander and caused his death. And that we can see it clear in the final scene. Silco gave up everything he wanted to protect Jinx. And he didnt get mad when she kidnapped him because he understand how she feels. Vi tries to make Jinx remember but she only make things worse. Silco sees jinx suffering and tries to help her by shooting Vi witch leading to his death. I dont say Silco was right and Vi was wrong the one. And thats the good with Arcane. There are not black and white. Silco tried to kill 4 children to avenge Vander and done many evil things. Also he feared that Jinx would abadon him and thats why he told her some lies. But in the end Silco wasn't the clice villain. He was a complex character with issues and weakness. And Vi wasn't evil or totally wrong. Ηer intentions were good but in the end she would make things worse because she doesn't know the real Jinx.
First of all, watch your grammar! English is not my native, but still... Second, Silco is not a cliche villain, he is NOT trying to kill kids to avenge Vander, he firgave Vander long ago. Silco is really forgiving type of person, he forgives Jinx, Vander, chembaroness, chembarons, Marcus, etc. Some people even think that Silco is the main hero of this show. As for me that's Jinx, but Silco is the second. Technically we haven't seen him doing something bad, and his good deeds overvalue his morally grey actions. So he is the good guy, true hero. Can't say the same about Vi. Really toxic character (there is even video essay on RUclips called Vi is toxic sister), she is aggressive, stupid, lost touch with the majority of the Undercity. She is the traitor. She is pathological lair (she even teaches Caitlin to lie). Probably, she is charismatic and funny, but that's not an excuse for me, and people who died because of her (like the kid from the beginning of the episode, or chemtech soldiers).
@@alarichrul6639 Whatever dude I will left you with your things and stuffs inside you Head. But if you don't see what is frobt your face then maybe go watch some Arcane reaction by Dr psychologists. I have spoken. May the force be with you and may you lead the force. ✋
@@alarichrul6639Wow, this might be one the worst Arcane takes I’ve ever seen. There’s absolutely no way you genuinely think Vi is toxic, but Silco and Jinx are heroes? That’s impressively delusional.
@@deadxdoveluvr you aren't rationalist, are you? That's not just my take on these characters, there's a whole bunch of people thinking the same. For some extend I can understand you, Vi is charismatic, has passion of youth, in comparison with Sevika or Silco. But, it doesn't mean that her actions are justified or doesn't have bad consequences for basically everyone she crosses. And yes, she is the traitor, not Sevika(extremely loyal to the Undercity and its citizens). And undoubtedly, Silco did a lot for the Undercity. Even Piltover council is ready to give it independence, even if it painful for them to lose power, control over the Undercity. Now they have their own industry, medicine, unique technologies, army. People are much richer, stronger and smarter, safer in comparison with Vander's time, when enforcers were free to kill anyone anytime they want.
@@alarichrul6639 This is funny. Vi’s bad actions can’t be excused, but Silco’s can? Silco has poisoned the people of the Lanes with the shimmer he produces and then uses their addiction against them to make them do things for him. And he does it all without an ounce of guilt. He can’t even bring himself to pretend to care when one of his follower’s child dies in his factory. Not to mention how he horrible he is for Jinx. The people in the Lanes may be “stronger” but they haven’t stopped suffering at all. Honestly, their lives haven’t gotten any better under Silco. The council are only willing to give them independence if Silco gives up Jinx, which he won’t do. So, the Undercity is back as square one. I’m not saying Vi is perfect, but she’s way better than Silco could even dream of being.
Gosh that last scene, starting with both of them letting the other know that they've made it through because of each other, ending with "what could have been". What a heart-destroying masterpiece of a show.
Beside the tea party, the scene with Finn is one of my favourite. I love how Sevika just uses the idiot to send a message to Silco. The whole scene is just Silco talking to Sevika about loyalty and Sevika telling Silco "stop screwing around and put the cause front and center or I will find someone else who will" with her "not for a worm like him". Finn is the one talking with Silco but he's not even a factor here, this is a discussion between Silco and Sevika and he's just used by Sevika as a prop xD I love the evolution of Sevika overall, how she switched from a side-character who represented Vander's losing grip on the undercity to someone with a little more personality when she's clearly Silco's main henchwoman in Ep 3 and she sacrifices herself for him, losing her arm in the process to having a character arc and agency of her own, even over Silco the boss of the undercity. I hope it means they're getting her ready to be a major player in season 2. As far as the council situation go, I think it's fairly realistic. Oppressors create their own enemies. Jinx was wrong imo, Vi didn't create Jinx because you can already see Jinx in the first scene of the first episode when Powder was 5. Horror and war created Jinx, the council did. Vi at most made Jinx strong enough to survive. So the oppressing government create their own enemy, and when given the chance to make peace and end it all, they will always cling to their power until the last second when everything is about to blow up in their face. Without the threat of hextech weapons in the hands of the Undercity, they would never have voted for Zaun's independence. And of course when you wait for the last second to create peace, often it will be too late. Jinx has a lot to answer for (mostly to the Undercity honestly) and risking an all out war just for Silco's memory without the Undercity's approval is pretty shitty, but the council's destruction is overwhelmingly the council's fault. The only one who really didn't deserve it among them is Jayce (and he's not among my favourite characters, but credit when credit is due) because while he fucked up a lot, in a matter of days he was ready to lose all of his personal power and to concede much of Piltover's wealth and power for the sake of peace even though he was convinced Piltover would win. But I like that even a lot of the other councillors aren't complete assholes. Mel is powerhungry but not a sociopath and wants peace, choosing it even over her family's safety and approval, a lot of the other councilors also want peace and recognise their duty to the Undercity at least sometimes. Caitlyn's mom is distant and arrogant but she's not a psycho. Relatively normal people with power created that situation not cartoonishly evil guys.
I work in the french animation industry and I have some friends who worked/are currently working on Arcane, can’t wait for season 2 I didn’t have the chance to work on this show but I worked on some other cool upcoming series that I hope to see you react to someday! ^^
Thank you both for a great reaction to the best written series of the century. Even though its obvious throughout the series, I would love to hear your overall thoughts on the series, especially given the expectation going into it in episode 1❤
I never realized how truly, heart-breakingly beautiful that final song was until I saw the full version performed live at the VGA's - there's a link below to the performance by Sting and violinist Ray Chen: ruclips.net/video/I1klbTzBQpk/видео.html Also, there's this beautiful tribute to the sisters, complete with lyrics: ruclips.net/video/NXSPkSAhcxo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/-tlnTspVeeM/видео.html Finally, there is a truly phenomenal montage about Jinx and the Arcane series as a whole made to the same song. It's a fantastic and beautiful 2 minute recap: ruclips.net/video/nFmKnWDhyWc/видео.html
Cool reaction, girls, but um... where's the discussion? I mean, you have nothing to say? o_o 2:40 "I think he knew he would loose" => No. I mean, maybe he knew that, he probably did, but he gave up not out of cowardice but out of wisdom. He didn't let his pride About the end: the council voting for peace wouldn't have changed shit since Silco wasn't ready to sacrifice Jinx.
This finally was one huge boxing match against my soul. Every time I thought I might get a hold of my emotions, something happened to completely wreck me. In the middle of a fight scene between Vi and Sevika, Vander showed up and I felt like my throat was punched. Then Jinx appears behind Vi and my throat was punched. Then just as my heart is about to explode, Sting cuts in with a song that pulled me in and kept me from breathing. Sorry for the book, this episode has way too much going on for me to summarize easily. Thank you, you two rock.
in my opinion jinx is one of the greatest characters ever created in ever her story is so tragic and they way she tries to deal with it is sad but also so beautiful to watch
Originally, Jinx was a Harley Quinn knockoff. Look it up. L.o.L. made Jinx to be their Harley Quinn. This show, magnificently, made Jinx her own. She is so much more now than she ever was thanks to Arcane.
When Haylo said "I think he knew he was gonna lose." Made me remember the previous episode when Vi went to shake hands with the gloves on. It gave me the impression that the glove was a representation of Vi's strength/power compared to Jayce at that moment. I could be over analyzing, though anime love to do this but usually less subtly.
So a lot of people misunderstand what silco was trying to say at vanders' monument. He was basically saying he finally understood why Vander no longer fight, he had kids he needed to look after. Sadly jinx misunderstood as well and thought he was going to give her up.
I'm surprised how many people get the Vi - Jinx - Silco interaction wrong. Vi is triggering her psychosis and Silco is trying to keep her grounded in reality.
Legit everyone who watched Arcane cried like a bitch at the end. Anyone who says they didn't is lying. I was sad for WEEKS! Jinx's character is so well written. Faaaack.
You can only call it an end of this part of the story... because she's Jinx. It's the most entire, most full-on bad-timing, wrong-choice, "jinx" decision. And, she just got up, grabbed the weapon she made for Silco and shot. No hesitation. Jinx.
It's been a long time since the video was uploaded but little fact: The weapon Jinx is using at the end, it has a scared eye, just like Silco, because it was a gift for him
Btw guys here is a little information about the last scene when jinx shot "Silco" she actually shot them both not just "Silco" but "Vi" dodged it ,, You're reaction guys it's really good ♥
False. Silco shot at Vi and Jinx shot at Silco, and Vi dodged. The scene is framed chaotically for obvious reasons, but Jinx did not shoot in Vi's direction.
The irony at the end of Mel being the first to support peace, completely removing herself from her family's legacy of war. For the missile to hit right behind her, and her (most likely) being the first victim of that missile, inevitably causing her mother to use her as a martyr to go to war and to most likely invade pilltover in the next season. 😭
powder made a mistake vi hit her and blame her silco took bullets in his chest and keeps telling her to do not cry and she is perfect that what made the diffrence that made jinx not giving any choices to give a vi another chance to pick between powder and jinx because vi vailed her aja showing she cares about powder
Arcane Season 2 have been confirmed and is planned to release about 1 year from now. I cant remember the exact date they were shooting for but it was around the same as Season 1 release so around Q4 2024.
man is so rude that so many people has made that comment of "oh Jayce doesnt wanna fight cuz he knows he will probably lose", that is so disrespectful to Jayce, of course he doenst wanna fight anymore, hes a scientist not a fighter and he just killed a kid by mistake... he doesnt want to hurt anyone else.
What an incredible end to this amazing show seeing kiss react to the finale was amazing. If you guys want something to fill in arcane now that being over can you try the owl house it is a very great show with very good writing, plot and other stuff!
Great reaction series you two. This show, especially the ending is a modern tragedy..almost everything could have worked out. Silco, who was an outstanding layered villain almost got what he wanted, but it all went to hell in an instant.
20:26 I don't think it was a choice on Jinx's part. I think she instinctively just shot at everything to protect herself (like her episode in episode 4 on the ship). She almost hit Vi too in that spray but happened to hit Silco.
False. Silco shot at Vi. Jinx's shot didn't go anywhere near Vi. Moreover, Jinx's shooting in episode 4 was because she freaked out over seeing someone that looked like Vi. Jinx doesn't have any survival instinct.
great reaction! so sweet you two. and because you are sisters it must have given a stronger weight to the series. Now wait for season 2. If possible, you could do a reaction to One Piece, the series is popular at the moment! hug from Brazil
I think it is interesting that every person that reacts to this show seems to forget that Jinx is a mass murderer and clearly beyond reason. Kaitlin should have grabbed that minigun and instantly started blasting.
I really appreciate your reactions to the series. I can't wait for the next season to come out! If you take recommendations: Dopesick, Invincible, The Bear
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Hey so here's a little dagger for the old heartstrings: remember the game Vi told Caitlyn about, inventing bigger and scarier monsters until it got too scary and she had to chase her monsters away? Jinx remembers: "Make her go away. Please?"
Yes! She didn't expect Vi to kill Caitlyn. Just to reassure her. To get rid of the scary thoughts
I had not even thought about that callback. Man, that's good.
This callback is very on the nose for those who pay attention, but also it points out that Powder never existed as a real option ever since they met the first time in ep.6.
Her abandonment disorder, her self caused PTSD, her manic behaviour even before shimmer is what sealed the deal way before the end.
@@FutayuriShironeko fair, but also... is "who I was when I was 10" an option ANY of us can choose as our identity going forward?
Consider Powder for a moment. In episode one, she is scared of a kid chasing her, so she fills an improvised explosive device with nails and chucks it at the kid's feet... and she is biting her lip with excitement at the prospect of it going off. In episode 2, she gleefully announces that she's made nail bombs for the enforcers, and promises Vi that they'll work THIS time. Powder was always Jinx. She wanted to see explosions and chaos, and as long as Vi didn't get blown up, nothing else was very important about it. Jinx grew up and got BETTER at demolitions and gunplay, but her attitudes changed very little.
yeah twisting the dagger is realising that Vi didn't understand what Jinx meant. Or what Jinx needed
The thing about Silco is yes, he's manipulative, but he does genuinely care. When Vi tells Jinx to remember who she is, it's actually aggravating her trauma to almost a complete breaking point and he tries to stop it. He spends the whole series trying to keep her head in a good place because he can see her instability, and because Vi wasn't around she doesn't realize how bad it is and that she's doing the wrong thing at the time. Everyone in this series does the wrong thing constant. Super flawed characters and that's really why it is so good.
I will say, I'm not trying to defend Silco cuz he is horrible, but he did genuinely care and it's so important to me that people see just how well-written and dynamic of a villain he is.
@@sothanatoasted2972 i think more credit should be given to him honestly, like yes he is evil but he had little choice, zaun was a toxic wasteland the air so dence you couldnt breath illness all around becouse of it and piltover opresing them. Like is normal he turned evil in the end most people would.
Horrible people can still have people they would do anything for and care about, just like real life and I'm glad they made him that way.
@@kikofernandez9184 Most, if not everyone in the undercity is fucked up anyway. Even Vi, who couldn't care less about the kid who died.
@@TobiNano You can actually hear Vi's voice breaks a bit, when she speaks about that kid. She went through a lot of loss and it is her coping mechanism.
Shout out to your sister. Her comprehension level is above a lot of reactors I’ve seen for this show
Vi never knew the gauntlet had shield because like everyone implied, she never blocks 😂
but obviously jayce hammer had a shield in the scene before, and well mining equipment that can block falling rocks sounds like generally a good plan, too!
She blocks with her face, i guess that counts. 😅
@@soulscyther666 true 🤣
Fun little coincidence, or is it? - almost all Champions (playable characters, Vi, Jayce, Viktor to name are in this list) in League of Legends who use hextech or are made of hextech have a barrier/shield ability.
Exceptions are Caitlyn, beccause she has a "Hextech" gun (I say it like that cause it barely functions like a hextech invention - the gun she has in the show is just a gun as well) and Heimerdinger (who in a gameplay kind of sense isn't fighting directly per say)
Wether they tied in this coincidence into the show and made it so that hextech - or the tools made of at least -has in some capacity defensive functions at the base is up to anyone's guess.
@@Rene9adeSU The Hammer doesn't have a shield. It was more of an electric pulse knocking them back
How unfortunate of your sister to be distant exactly in the last episode, she really needed emotional support. We still need it, even seeing this many times...
Honestly, I've watched countless reactions of Arcane just to relive it all over again over the last 2 years and this is one of the most enjoyable ones on youtube, not only you showed soo much compassion towards every character, you brought humor and stole many laughs from me so thank you
One small thing I love that doesn't get picked up on a lot is when Vi is trying to get Jinx to remember all the people in her life that have loved her, we see Jinx picturing all of them...except for her parents. Because she was so young when they died she probably doesn't even remember what they looked like.
I absolutely *love* Silco's character in this show. A lot of the time, when a show has a "mastermind" style villian, they go too far into showing how cool and unflappable they are and it's so refreshing that this show never falls into that trap. Not only is Silco shown as being both unsure and unafraid at times, but they actually let his core character be changed because Jinx is in his life. I fully belive that he honestly loves her as his own daughter and is actively doing what he thinks is best for her in trying to harden her to a world he belives is not only unfair but actively set against them. Silco is such a facinatingly nuenced villian that I think he might be my favorite villian of all time.
My prediction for next season is that everyone in that council meeting dies except for Jayce and Mal. I kind of think that whatever that gold stuff is on Mal's back that seemed to glow right before the missile hit is going to protect her and Jayce. Victor is going to die, but the Hexcore is going to bring him back to life in a form much like his leg currently is. Regardless, I cannot wait for more of this show. It's an actual masterpiece.
That ending. Table-flip-inducing--and I *love* that this show got such emotion out of me. They went for the gut punch vs sugar-coated ending.
Real feelings can only be created by real consequences. If we know the story is going to have a happy ending, there's no need for tension. Now we know nothing can be taken for granted and anything is possible.
At the table, everything Vi was saying was causing Jinx to go crazy, and Silco was trying to get her to stop and calm Jinx down. “Think of Mylo (She sees the person that talked down to her), Claggor, Vander (she sees two people who died because of her mistake, or her “jinx” and how Vi left her alone. And she possibly sees how Vander betrayed Silco and making the undercity independent).” “Shut up! Don’t listen to her!” Silco raised Jinx from being left by Vi to that moment, so he knows what will set her off and how to calm her down. He sees Powder as Vander’s daughter and Jinx as his daughter, and truly believes that Jinx is perfect, just like he says earlier in the series when she thought she saw Vi on the boat. Bc of Vi’s words, she opens fire on the whole room and only hits Silco, and his dying words still shows how much he loves Jinx: “I never would have given you to them, not for anything. Don’t cry, you’re perfect.”
its tough, 90% of people dont recognize silco as a good character at heart. They just bandwagon on him villain = bad.
I mean none of that would be true though if Vi hadn't been imprisoned unjustly and forced to spend her life in prison, never having access to keep up with who her sister was becoming as he poisoned her mind... it's a problem of his own making.
@@Cloud_77_ I agree, Silco is a good person. Ruthless, but because he needs power to set his people free. He is like most if not all of revolutionaries in history.
@@lenajohnson6179 Silco was not behind the imprisonment of Vi ... (She came back..... from the dead?) Remember? And Silco never brainwashed Powder ... As Vi left her (She failed to come back, but from both Powder and Silco's perspective, she abandoned her.), Powder was having quite the mental breakdown. Silco only comforted her. He didn't brainwash her, he protected her and let her be who she was.
A detail no one ever seems to catch in the tea party scene:
When Vi says “The only thing that kept me going was the thought of getting back to you.”
This is a lie.
Jinx knows it is a lie.
Vi confessed to Caitlyn that she thought her sister was dead. Jinx had plenty of time to interrogate Caitlyn, which is why a cupcake was under the plate cover. The significance goes right over VI’s head.
Vi is lying to herself, and does not understand that she is lying to herself.
All lies are equally despicable to a Zaunite, which is what Silco means when he says “They. Will. Never. Understand.”
Vi has lost her Zaun-ness.
Jinx understands Vi very well.
Vi understands Jinx not at all.
Zaun understands Piltover very well.
Piltover understands Zaun not at all.
Zaun chose its own name, which Pilties refuse to acknowledge.
Jinx chose her own name, which Vi refuses to acknowledge.
Piltover, as a culture, is incapable of seeing that Zaun exists as a culture of its own. They call them slurs like “trenchers” and “fissure folk.”
Silco is right: they will never understand until Zaun breaks away and stands on its own.
One way or another, Zaun must go its own way.
Geography being what it is, the two cities must eventually reconcile and find a way to coexist that is mutually beneficial…but that’s probably a generation or two in the future.
For now, Zaun and Piltover have a metaphysical chasm between them. Just like Jinx and Vi.
The story of the sisters is the story of the cities.
Agreed. I always read “The Monster You Created” as being Zaun. I mean peace is nice and all but even Mel’s mother said they let the Zaun fester for too long, after all these years of being screwed over would the people of Zaun even feel like peace was enough? And look at Jinx, Silco, Echo and Viktor. Had they been born in Piltover their lives would be much better(Silco clearly being a great businessman/industrialist and the others being geniuses) but being born in Zaun left them with the options and choices that led them to where they are. It’ll take decades of reform and therapy to heal a place like Zaun so just the offer of peace might feel like an insult to the people considering all they’ve gone through
Jinx does a lot of gaslighting Vi in this scene... like... she never gives Vi the CHANCE to accept her or not, which considering every action she's taken sense escaping prison and finding out Jinx is alive, all signs point to that she'd accept Jinx INSTANTLY... just obviously not as a murderous terrorist... which if ONLY Jinx understands she will ALWAYS be a terrorist, only SHE understands that the bridge is unbreachable... thus it's sort of unfair to put Vi through all of this. A fact I think Jinx recognizes by the end of the tea party as 'Here's to the new us' I feel is a little bit of Jinx freeing Vi of the 'ghost' of hope that things can ever be what they were.
It's incredibly easy for most viewers to forget that Vi is ALSO a victim here for some reason... they just gloss over that she's spent half her life in prison taking beatings for NO CRIME as if that doesn't matter on the 'pitty pole' in comparison to poor poor Jinx when Jinx has only lost, EXACTLY the same amount as Vi has lost. Vi just didn't let it make her a monster, Jinx did. Obviously the city still bears an equal portion of blame... but we ALWAYS have agency in what we ALLOW the world to make us, and VI acts as the proof of that. Jinx is Jinx because of what the city has done to her yes... but also because she WANTS to be. She's allowed herself to become a mad dog that is eventually going to HAVE to be put down.
Wow I like your comment 🤔
You can hold out hope that someone is alive while thinking shes dead lol. Its not a lie.
@@lenajohnson6179 IMO this take is mostly-reasonable but trying to imply that Jinx should've just not become a monster is an absurd position to take. Social pressures exist and Zaun is a second class hellscape to Piltover, buried under mountains of corruption and discrimination. It's an absurdly priviledged take to say that she should've just not let the world change her. Like wtf are you smoking. She's a child put through the death of her family and her psyche is literally crumbling around her as she struggles to cope, which we literally see happening. Complaining that someone with an MPD complex should be able to stand up to the stressers of an absurdly hard life is just ridiculous. Jinx isn't some blameless victim it's true, and while her mental illness isn't her fault, its her responsibility to manage no doubt, but she isn't some monster for being changed by the world.
As they say, shit happens.
I love silcos arc from a viewer perspective. Starting as the villain and being somewhat of a tragic father by the end. Oof. Something about that final scene gets me everytime
It's a triumphant arc where the hardened revolutionary (sadly) dies to give way to the father who's prepared to do anything for his daughter, rather than the cause.
@@th3voice I mean, Silco really died at the perfect point in his arc, cuz he was never gonna just *give up* on the Nation of Zaun. Jayce's demand for Jinx's surrender just meant Silco would go about it a different way, likely involving Jinx and her newly-developed Fishbones and a *hefty* supply of Shimmer.
Hextech crushes Chemtech every day, but Chemtech weaponry has the quantity and production that Hextech weaponry simply doesn't right now.
He's still a villain. He uses children to make drugs that destroy people. Like even his only redeeming quality which is his love for jinx. It pretty much just manifests in him wanting to murder her sister so that she's still only reliant on him for support. Like if anyone tells you they are the only person you can rely on that isn't cute that's abuse.
@@jediburrito I will argue that you are mistaken in your views on why Silco wants to kill Vi.
In Silco's eyes, Vi is to Jinx what Vander was to him. Rewatch the show and it's obvious Silco genuinely believes Vi abandoned Powder for her warehouse bombing.
Even when he confronts Marcus about Vi's survival, Marcus doesn't tell him that he stopped Vi from going back for Powder when she saw Silco standing over her. All Marcus confirms is that he found Vi and locked her up rather than killed her.
Silco is a villain, but his love for Jinx is 110% genuine and coming from a place of warmth. His method of expressing that love is to try and keep her safe, even if he allows his own traumatic experiences and beliefs to color how he knows how to do that.
In the case of Vi, he has every reason, from his PoV, to believe that Vi abandoned Powder and is now trying to take her back without accepting who Jinx has become, which Silco feels would inevitably lead to Vi abandoning Jinx all over again. Plus, he knows better than to let a capable person motivated by vengeance keep walking around, because they will stop at nothing to hurt him.
@@perrycarters3113 listen if you think Silco was not gonna kill Vi I have a bridge to sell you in Scotland. I dunno wtf coming from a place of "warmth" means in this context. He's mostly just setting himself up as the ONLY person she can count on therefore completely dependent on him. Is that because he just really loves her that much? Maybe. But regardless that behavior is super damaging because humans can't just rely on only 1 person in their life that's super bad.
What's so crazy is that in Episode 3, they were literally fine. They were about to get out and *Jinx* ruined it.
Here in Episode 9, everything was about to be fine and guess what? *Jinx* ruined it, again.
Her character is so tragic, in a good way.
I don't think it's so simple in both scenarios. In episode 3 even if they managed to get out, the results would have been same or worse because even after they get out, what next? The shimmer monsters can outrun you and pretty much there was nothing to do after the door was destroyed. In episode 9, it wasn't going to be fine. Even without jinx, Silco wasn't going to give up Jinx and nothing would have worked. And obviously after he died even less. Like they said, you can't make a deal with a snake and cut off it's head.
It’s not about the ”what ifs” like you’re saying. They clearly made it this way for a reason dude.. because she is a *Jinx.* It’s about the symbolism not the actual consequences. You’re pretty young I assume? You’re not looking at the nuances at all but purely objectively.
Her character Jinx'd everything from the moment the show started -
Her parents dying at the bridge
Her losing the loot
Her blowing up the building and making Piltover come to the Lanes
Her causing Vi to want to give herself up which led to Vander's capture
Her killing her entire psuedo-family
Her once again making Piltover come back to the Lanes after a 7 year time skip
Her costing them all the cargo on the ship
Her killing her second psuedo-family
Her stopping peace and causing a war
Just to name a few things she Jinx'd from the get go.
@@jonteguy even if you aren't young, you're definitley immature. Talking in such a patronizing way to a stranger who you know nothing about is just rude and comes across as very arrogant.
@@BroxigarZ I agree with this very much, however I think it places too much blame on Powder/Jinx. The catalyst for the conditions leading up to the initial war, the death of so many people, the cause of EVERYTHING that transpires... is the way Piltover treats and takes advantage of the Undercity and its' people. After literal decades or more of pure apathy towards their conditions Piltover finally looks at what they've done, and it's too late. It's arguable whether they deserve what Jinx has done to them, but they are definitely the cause.
I always see people say that they almost had peace but Jinx ruined it, but really they still weren't going to have peace because part of the deal was that Silco had to give up Jinx, which he was never going to do.
This! So many people seem to miss this? Like, it didn't even matter if the council voted yes (aside from showing that they were actually decent people). Silco would never give up Jinx, the same way that Vander would never give up Vi and gave himself up instead. They could have had peace if they sacrificed their daughters but neither was willing to do it in the end, which is the sad parallel.
@@MishaHusnainAli but vander was gave himself to have peace while silco in the other hand, I am sure is not going to give himself up for jinx. He would rather go to war etc...
True tragedy of Jinx is not that she became Jinx, but the hope that she thought she could be Powder again.
She lost Powder ever since ep.4, there still were brief flashes of Powder, but Jinx was the one behind the wheel.
You went from Powder with seeds of Jinx to Jinx with remnants of Powder.
"It's not enough to give people what they need to survive...You have them give them what they need to live." This might be my favorite quote from the entire show.
Ekko and Heimerdinger in season 2 might be the arc I'm looking forward the most. Except, obviously, Caitlyn and Vi
@@ZeZapatiste and Viktor... :)
There's a lot of humility in: "In the pursuit of GREAT, we failed to do GOOD."
@@ZeZapatiste Yeah, meeting Ekko is exactly what Heimerdinger needs to develop a more realistic worldview. And this meeting can also help bring Ekko the tools (both political and technological) he needs to make a bigger change.
Agreed. Though, figuring out what people actually need to live is so hard. The final confrontation between Vi and Jinx is because Vi is trying to help but doesn't understand how different Jinx is. And Silco has, in his view, always given Jinx what she needed to cope with the awful consequences of her actions I episode 3. But I don't think she ever got to a point where she could deal with the violence she was expected to be involved in. It haunted her when she was part of Vi's gang, and I think part of the craziness shown when she fights is because her saner mind is just shut down in defense.
I'm really impressed by Kiss's takes on the happenings of this episode. A LOT happens, and yet I think she was spot on with a lot of her analysis. Which is VERY hard to do in the middle of this fast paced episode. She's got a good head on her shoulders.
Yea you could say that she... jinxed it
14 years of League of Legends. This show is the single greatest thing I've ever witnessed on motion picture.
I love how a fellow player, rewatching, you're able to appreciate the minor details in this masterpeice.
It's been lovely watching you two go on this journey together. This show is SO good. I'm sure season 2 won't be quite up to the same storytelling standards, and that's fine, because this whole season 1 arc is one of the greatest accomplishments in the history of animation.
I've really enjoyed binging your reactions of this incredible series. Your personalities come through so well, it feels like I vaguely recognize you both from somewhere. Well done!
For some additional goodness, I would recommend watching the Imagine Dragons "Enemy" music video, and then going all the way back and watching the "Get Jinxed" release music video. They bookend the Arcane series so well, with Enemy giving us more of the world, and Get Jinxed being where this all started for our favorite chaos princess.
The scene where Silco says to Vi “HER NAME IS JINX”. That they will betray her, is not manipulation it’s just his point of view on life, he can relate to Jinx and comprehend her trauma.
You can dissect this episode or this scene alone and you’ll have another exhilarating experience because you learned details and realistic nuances from each of the characters arcs and decisions. I don’t think you can necessarily hate any character, they’ve all been dealt a bad hand and they all have their versions of peace.
At least Silco cared about someone he deemed a daughter. He knew she was dealing with schizophrenia and yet he never treated her as anything other than a daughter that is figuring it out and he’s just there if she needed him. Vi didn’t know her sisters mental warfare, and by her lack of knowledge she refuses to accept what her sister has become but Silco embraced her and let her discover her path.
To Silco, whose sole motivation is for Zaun to be out from under Piltover’s heel; for Zaun to be free to go its own way; to become whatever it’s going to become:
Jinx IS Zaun.
Everything he loves about his home is literally manifested and embodied in his daughter.
He says this explicitly to Vi:
“Candidly, I thought you were the prize of your secondhand family.” But, Jinx…she is more than I ever imagined.”
(Secondhand family is not an insult. Due to the toxic air and water, poverty, and heavy-handed Piltie enforcers, many if not most families in Zaun are second-hand.)
@@robertwise2032 well said
Vi used to love all of her sister, no matter how incompetent she used to be or how she used to fack up everyting. Now Vi just wants powder back, but it doesn't work like that. Her sister isn't just powder or Jinx, it's powder plus Jinx. Where Silco, despite him being a bad person, genuinely loved all of Jinx no matter how she doesn't listen to him or how she fack up his plan. That's why she choose the Jinx seat, that's why she said to Vi "I thought maybe you coud love me like you used to, but you've changed too"
Powder protected her sister by killing Silco.
Jinx avenged her father by killing Powder.
They depicted Jinx's inner demons so well (again). Vi thought she was helping. Too often things are said to help a loved one in their times of crisis and pain, but just inspire their demons more. I’m guilty of that myself with loved ones and addiction or mental health. It is only after time and reflection we sometimes realize what was said out of love to help actually made it worse.
Silco was hands down the Villain of the year 2yrs ago when this aired... Silco loved Jynx like a daughter, "I'll never Forsake you." even after she shot him he gave her positive re-enforcement (showed her love). Crazy that Vi is the one person that survives loving Jynx's, cause she killed EVERYONE ELSE that she loved.
1:06 "If we were to end this and still not know when Season 2 was coming out, I would probably cry myself to sleep tonight." 23:53 "I think I'm gonna c-- I think I AM going to cry myself to sleep tonight anyway." Not sure there's a more perfect way to bookend this episode. Well done.
Kiss: “It’s always about money and not about people.”
Me:…….. *Subscribed*
Why even wait with the sub until EP9 ? :D EP1 and they got me already :D
It's very rare I get obsessed by a song, it's happened maybe five times ever. First one was the Jurassic Park main theme. Sting's song at the end was on repeat for days after this. He did a live performance of it at the Video Game Awards in 2021 and there are some great (and some no so great) covers of it here in RUclips.
The best Arcane reaction I've seen here. Thank you.
Powder's last act was killing Silco to save her sister, and Jinx's first true act is avenging her father.
She also ironically undoes what he wanted as well, since he just managed to get the council to give into his demands and they voted to do it and Jayce never even got his hands on Jinx.
Then the first thing she does is blow them up.
@@Orapac4142 Silco says himself that he was never gonna give Jinx to them and there's no way he'd would be okay with the situation Vander tried, so even if Piltover doesn't know it, there was no other choice for the Undercity in that situation other than kaboom. Moreover, I seriously doubt that the council is going to go: "The terrorists attack us while we are voting for them to be separated from us? Never mind then! We will no longer be separating ourselves from them! 😡🤬". Petty as some of them may be, Jinx's attack is just giving them more reason to let Zaun be independent. Jinx did, however, destroy any chance of peace.
About the Hexcore, it's something Viktor worked blood and sweat for and something he hoped that would save him and the other unfortunate souls in Zaun. Viktor essentially asked Jayce to destroy his only chance for survival and Jayce knows how heavy that burden is
Here's the problem with the final "tea party scene" that everyone gets mad about Silco asserting that her name is Jinx, etc.
He's right. Get as mad as you want...but he's RIGHT. Powder is gone...completely and irretrievably gone. Jinx remembers Powder, but she cannot ever BE Powder, again. And...Vi doesn't want Jinx. Vi won't accept Jinx. Vi ignores Jinx. Vi repeatedly insists that Jinx is just some silly name Silco calls her, and that she'll always be Powder no matter what.
The reality is that, if somehow Jinx COULD be Powder again...Silco would miss Jinx, but in the end would still love Powder too. By contrast, Vi refuses to even admit Jinx exists.
It's why Vi recklessly spouts names of people that are, to Jinx, nothing but sources of pain and shame. Monsters that traumatize her endlessly. Because Vi doesn't care about Jinx. To Vi, Jinx is just one more obstacle to overcome to get Powder back. Vi wants Jinx gone, and doesn't care what it takes. Which is why Silco loses his shit and tries to shoot Vi. Not necessarily because he's afraid of losing Jinx (he is...but that's not at issue here), but because Vi is HURTING her...and he knows it, all while Vi ignores it.
Vi shows she doesn't care about Jinx. She only cares about a memory...not the person.
Silco wouldn't be happy about Jinx turning back into Powder, if it were somehow possible. But I will guarantee you that he'd still accept her that way, and do everything in his power to help and support her. If Powder became her true nature, he'd still say she's perfect. But again...Vi will absolutely never accept Jinx. She can't.
For all his misdeeds and flaws...Silco has always been sincere in his ideals and his bonds. He unconditionally loves Jinx, even if she went back to being Powder. Vi only loves her as Powder, and in no other way.
That also is enforced in the baptism scene. Silco tells her, "Jinx is perfect" and as he is dying, he says, "You're perfect".
Also, this whole disaster happened because at the council meeting, Vi told Jayce that person behind the attacks was named Jinx (Allowing him to demand Jinx from Silco at the parley) I think to Vi, Jinx is someone else, and saying the name Jinx didn't betray her sister. She was wrong.
What an incredibly stupid take in regards to Vi telling Jinx to remember those people. Of course she wants Powder back but there was literally no way for Vi to know how those memories were haunting Jinx. It had nothing to do with whether Vi cares about Jinx or not.
@-Devy- it is objectively, observably true that regardless of her intentions, Vi invoking those names caused Jinx pain. And Jinx was not unclear about the fact that she was no longer Powder. Powder fell down a well.
Is it understandable that Vi acted that way? Oh absolutely. But it's not crazy to say that she was reckless, rejecting Jinxes statement about who she is in favor of what she wanted her to be. And it's certainly how Jinx views the world.
And that's part of the beauty of she show. No one is actually bad, or a true, irredeemable villain. They are stuck in a cycle of violence that they can't escape.
Somehow everyone also misses out on the fact that VI already betrayed Jinx at least twice at this point. She gave her up to the council (where she was 100% wrong on Silco's intent btw), and she's literally busy betraying her again by watching Kaitlin cut herself out of the chair just as Silco says "everyone else betrays us".
As for Silco he said "all we need to do is scare them" and within hours of achieving that he got a full independence vote.
@@xanadu6784 I wouldn't say she was completely clear. She still hadn't made the decision between the chairs. Yes, she was saying that Powder fell down a well, but she was still giving Vi the hope that things could be fixed. And Vi was trying to make that happen by reminding her of her past. The main issue I think is that she doesn't know Jinx. She's been gone for years and only spoke to her once before this scene. While Silco practically raised her. I don't think you can judge Vi too harshly for not quite knowing how to handle her sister, not knowing everything that has gone wrong in her head.
As much as people are making bad decisions in the series, I think a lot also just comes down to the circumstances. From the individual circumstances they each find themselves in to the overarching problem of how Undercity makes people desperate, broken and violent.
Fantastic finish for you ladies. Watching the series and watching many reactions, it never fails to wring emotions out of me.
I'm sure you both would have loved to be there with each other for this episode. Congratulations on finishing College, Kiss.
I hope you two have a wonderful weekend!! I cannot wait to see what you have coming in the future.
Take care, H & K !!
Thank you for this journey. Thats all i can say. Your reactions were heartwarming and amazing.
the song at the end is so beautiful this show is a masterpiece
« Are you killing me, that’s how it ends » oh girl I know your feeling so bad 😂
One of my favorite things about this series is when scenes or themes repeat or rhyme over the season. "Am I interrupting?", "We'll show them all", Powder/Jinx singing that song on the bridge etc.
Something I always love to point out about Sevika is she's always improving her arm. In the first fight with Vi, she learnt she couldn't beat Vi in a fist fight, so she added a sword to her arm to give her an edge. She also ended up crippled bc she shimmer was injected externally, which gave Caitlyn an opportunity to shoot it and disable the arm, she she now has cartridges strapped to her that she puts in herself.
Silco is genuine when it comes to jinx. " you need to let powder die" is how silco let the "old him" die, it is basically him trying to tell jinx to forget about the past, powder, vi and everything, or she will never find peace, trying to tell jinx thats how silco himself found peace.
8:14 I could feel Kiss reach through the divide to grab siss’ arm
This show really shows what animation can bring to storytelling, it didn't have to relay on cartoonish expressions or silly gags. It showed real emotions and loss. No one won, everyone failed.
_“We will show them... We will show them all”_
*_“For You... Father!”_*
17:31 Hehe, i see what you did there... You guys are some of the most wholesome, fun and overall entertaining reactors i've had the pleasure to watch along with. Thank you and keep it up! 😄❤
"Nobody wins at war, Vi"...."Who are you willing to lose?" In the end Vi got her revenge and defeated Sevika and got Silco killed, but she lost Powder while Silco unleashed Jinx on the world.
One thing I love about the show is how they portrayed the concept of Morally Grey, there is nothing such as pure good or evil, both of these things can exist in various degrees
Here's why I think it works so well: Most of the time, in real life, morality has little to do with people's goals. People do things out of obligation to people they love, out of desire to help people who have suffered like them, or to fix certain parts of the world that they see as bad. Very few people care about any "objective morality" or do things simply because they are "good", and the characters in this show are realistic because despite some having "good" traits (Altruism, empathy, conviction), none of them have ALL of the good traits, and "good" people don't side with each other simply because they are good, just as "bad" people don't side with each other simply because they are good.
Sure there are people in real life that are legitimate bad people and take pride in it, but they are inherently frustrating and wouldn't make sense in this show anyway.
"Today is the day you die, Silco."
Never thought about that, but he's absolutely right - Silco did die on that die, just not by his hand, but by Jinx's.
Man, seeing people's reactions to the very end of the last episode is always the best. It's always a combination of sadness, shock, and a little bit of anger from how they left it.
The first time she couldn't look over at your face for spoilers. 👀
from watching "bridging the rift", you can understand how they did this show so masterfully...
they got the scenario done
send it to Fortiche studio that then produce a screenplay that get sent back for approval
once approval is given, they do the voice acting
once voice acting is done, Fortiche then animate the show in accordance to both screenplay and voice acting
the animators play the scene in front of cameras to capture the move and faces and they animate according to that also.
once the animation is done, it's sent to the music and sound department to add their own magic.
et voilà, chef kiss
this way of doing things also may explain the delays for season 2: while they started the work when finishing season 1, there is one fact that I learned recently from Necrit: Riot made Arcane canon. It's not a show that only take the characters and animate them in a "fan fiction". It's canon. And while they can't do much to modify season 1 to stick more to the existing lore, they sure could for season 2. So my thought is that they had to modify some parts of the "original" season 2 scenario to erase some divergence and reconcile the whole show with LoL lore. Hence, they probably had to redo a lot of the work previously done on the basis of the "original" season 2 scenario.
this make me think about the increasing divergences between GoT books and the show after season 3. Riot, instead, kept a tight hand on their IP and won't let the show goes it's own way...
btw, your whole reaction serie on that show also made me recall the reaction to the red wedding. The lot of books fans who knew what would happen and did record the reactions of their friends. Also how those books fans managed to NOT spoil their friend. I believe this started the whole "react to a show" trend.
Congrats on "sharing your pain" with your sister. (both to the season 1 and for the wait on season 2, lol)
Pleasure to watch your reaction! Hopefully season 2 really comes out end of 2024, but the good thing is they aren't forced and want to make it right. Budget and the hollywood strike should also have only an impact when it comes to the voice actors. The studio making it is from france and now part of Riot, the company behind League of Legends. Writing and music also is partly from people working at Riot.
kinda crazy how the only two times I cried throughout the series was when Silco took in Jinx, and when Silco tells Jinx that she's perfect. He wasn't perfect, but he did truly loved her.
One of my favourite reactions! Thanks to both of you!
That moment where Jace looks away from Viktor, like he's ashamed. He thinks Viktor is telling him he must destroy the hammer. The result of his hubris, the thing that murdered that innocent boy. The last thing he expected was for Viktor to understand. To know what it was to have cost someone their life with his hubris. To beg him to destroy the hex core, not knowing how much longer he would have to try to stop the dominoes falling. Jace never knew what Viktor was really going through, and that is so sad.
the part about that scene that always hits me, is that she doesn't remember what her mom and dad look like.
Silco tried to protect Jinx from Vi
Silko know what he was doing becouse the some thing has happend him physic and mentality.
And when you re-watch scene when he took Jinx on some place where Vander almost killed him.
And them you can see that she was mentality better, she did make a weapon and then after Sevica tell her about VI. You can see in that moment mindset change/reset back.
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Silco loved Jinx and tried to protect her. He knew about her mental illness and what triggers it. When Jinx remembers her family she has ptsd. And he realy cares for her. When Jinx kills the firelights and ruin his work Silco blames and yells Shevika but with Jinx he tells her calmly that she was wrong.
When Jinx kills the enforcers Silco is angry but he wasnt going to hurt her. And Jinx didnt afraid him. He wanted to impess him.
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As with crystal when Jinx tried to creat the weapon she had ptsd of her dead family. After the scene in the river when Silco told her to get over the past it worked.
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Jinx continued to make the gun without any problems.
All was fine unltil Vi came. When Jinx saw Vi she remembered what she did. Vi didnt know about her traumaand or how to handle it. Vi wants the best for her and keep her safe but she hurts her.
I dont blame Vi. She thinks Silco is a monster and he manipulates her in his favor and she has every right to believes. Vi only know that Silco kidnapped Vander and caused his death.
And that we can see it clear in the final scene. Silco gave up everything he wanted to protect Jinx. And he didnt get mad when she kidnapped him because he understand how she feels. Vi tries to make Jinx remember but she only make things worse. Silco sees jinx suffering and tries to help her by shooting Vi witch leading to his death.
I dont say Silco was right and Vi was wrong the one. And thats the good with Arcane. There are not black and white. Silco tried to kill 4 children to avenge Vander and done many evil things. Also he feared that Jinx would abadon him and thats why he told her some lies. But in the end Silco wasn't the clice villain. He was a complex character with issues and weakness. And Vi wasn't evil or totally wrong. Ηer intentions were good but in the end she would make things worse because she doesn't know the real Jinx.
First of all, watch your grammar! English is not my native, but still...
Second, Silco is not a cliche villain, he is NOT trying to kill kids to avenge Vander, he firgave Vander long ago. Silco is really forgiving type of person, he forgives Jinx, Vander, chembaroness, chembarons, Marcus, etc. Some people even think that Silco is the main hero of this show. As for me that's Jinx, but Silco is the second. Technically we haven't seen him doing something bad, and his good deeds overvalue his morally grey actions. So he is the good guy, true hero.
Can't say the same about Vi. Really toxic character (there is even video essay on RUclips called Vi is toxic sister), she is aggressive, stupid, lost touch with the majority of the Undercity. She is the traitor. She is pathological lair (she even teaches Caitlin to lie). Probably, she is charismatic and funny, but that's not an excuse for me, and people who died because of her (like the kid from the beginning of the episode, or chemtech soldiers).
@@alarichrul6639 Whatever dude I will left you with your things and stuffs inside you Head.
But if you don't see what is frobt your face then maybe go watch some Arcane reaction by Dr psychologists.
I have spoken.
May the force be with you and may you lead the force. ✋
@@alarichrul6639Wow, this might be one the worst Arcane takes I’ve ever seen. There’s absolutely no way you genuinely think Vi is toxic, but Silco and Jinx are heroes? That’s impressively delusional.
@@deadxdoveluvr you aren't rationalist, are you? That's not just my take on these characters, there's a whole bunch of people thinking the same. For some extend I can understand you, Vi is charismatic, has passion of youth, in comparison with Sevika or Silco. But, it doesn't mean that her actions are justified or doesn't have bad consequences for basically everyone she crosses. And yes, she is the traitor, not Sevika(extremely loyal to the Undercity and its citizens). And undoubtedly, Silco did a lot for the Undercity. Even Piltover council is ready to give it independence, even if it painful for them to lose power, control over the Undercity. Now they have their own industry, medicine, unique technologies, army. People are much richer, stronger and smarter, safer in comparison with Vander's time, when enforcers were free to kill anyone anytime they want.
@@alarichrul6639 This is funny. Vi’s bad actions can’t be excused, but Silco’s can? Silco has poisoned the people of the Lanes with the shimmer he produces and then uses their addiction against them to make them do things for him. And he does it all without an ounce of guilt. He can’t even bring himself to pretend to care when one of his follower’s child dies in his factory. Not to mention how he horrible he is for Jinx. The people in the Lanes may be “stronger” but they haven’t stopped suffering at all. Honestly, their lives haven’t gotten any better under Silco. The council are only willing to give them independence if Silco gives up Jinx, which he won’t do. So, the Undercity is back as square one. I’m not saying Vi is perfect, but she’s way better than Silco could even dream of being.
Gosh that last scene, starting with both of them letting the other know that they've made it through because of each other, ending with "what could have been". What a heart-destroying masterpiece of a show.
Beside the tea party, the scene with Finn is one of my favourite. I love how Sevika just uses the idiot to send a message to Silco. The whole scene is just Silco talking to Sevika about loyalty and Sevika telling Silco "stop screwing around and put the cause front and center or I will find someone else who will" with her "not for a worm like him". Finn is the one talking with Silco but he's not even a factor here, this is a discussion between Silco and Sevika and he's just used by Sevika as a prop xD
I love the evolution of Sevika overall, how she switched from a side-character who represented Vander's losing grip on the undercity to someone with a little more personality when she's clearly Silco's main henchwoman in Ep 3 and she sacrifices herself for him, losing her arm in the process to having a character arc and agency of her own, even over Silco the boss of the undercity. I hope it means they're getting her ready to be a major player in season 2.
As far as the council situation go, I think it's fairly realistic. Oppressors create their own enemies. Jinx was wrong imo, Vi didn't create Jinx because you can already see Jinx in the first scene of the first episode when Powder was 5. Horror and war created Jinx, the council did. Vi at most made Jinx strong enough to survive. So the oppressing government create their own enemy, and when given the chance to make peace and end it all, they will always cling to their power until the last second when everything is about to blow up in their face. Without the threat of hextech weapons in the hands of the Undercity, they would never have voted for Zaun's independence. And of course when you wait for the last second to create peace, often it will be too late.
Jinx has a lot to answer for (mostly to the Undercity honestly) and risking an all out war just for Silco's memory without the Undercity's approval is pretty shitty, but the council's destruction is overwhelmingly the council's fault. The only one who really didn't deserve it among them is Jayce (and he's not among my favourite characters, but credit when credit is due) because while he fucked up a lot, in a matter of days he was ready to lose all of his personal power and to concede much of Piltover's wealth and power for the sake of peace even though he was convinced Piltover would win.
But I like that even a lot of the other councillors aren't complete assholes. Mel is powerhungry but not a sociopath and wants peace, choosing it even over her family's safety and approval, a lot of the other councilors also want peace and recognise their duty to the Undercity at least sometimes. Caitlyn's mom is distant and arrogant but she's not a psycho. Relatively normal people with power created that situation not cartoonishly evil guys.
I work in the french animation industry and I have some friends who worked/are currently working on Arcane, can’t wait for season 2
I didn’t have the chance to work on this show but I worked on some other cool upcoming series that I hope to see you react to someday! ^^
The slogan for this show should be "trauma? don't worry, it gets worse" but like in a high quality way
Not her almost crying from the vision of Vander alone! Season 2 is going to be a wild roller coaster of emotions 😭
Thank you both for a great reaction to the best written series of the century.
Even though its obvious throughout the series, I would love to hear your overall thoughts on the series, especially given the expectation going into it in episode 1❤
Best written in the last 100 yrs is crazy
i've seeing this more then i can count and i did cry again, congralutions to the producers
Season 2 is close to being done but they don't want to rush its release. It will be out in October or December of 2024.
It’s been a journey with you!! Can’t wait for s2!
I never realized how truly, heart-breakingly beautiful that final song was until I saw the full version performed live at the VGA's - there's a link below to the performance by Sting and violinist Ray Chen:
ruclips.net/video/I1klbTzBQpk/видео.html
Also, there's this beautiful tribute to the sisters, complete with lyrics:
ruclips.net/video/NXSPkSAhcxo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/-tlnTspVeeM/видео.html
Finally, there is a truly phenomenal montage about Jinx and the Arcane series as a whole made to the same song. It's a fantastic and beautiful 2 minute recap:
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Cool reaction, girls, but um... where's the discussion? I mean, you have nothing to say? o_o
2:40 "I think he knew he would loose" => No. I mean, maybe he knew that, he probably did, but he gave up not out of cowardice but out of wisdom. He didn't let his pride
About the end: the council voting for peace wouldn't have changed shit since Silco wasn't ready to sacrifice Jinx.
When the pull of arcane becomes hard to bear - there is a great docu series about making the show (Bridging the rift) ✌🏻
Thanks for your reaction ❤
This finally was one huge boxing match against my soul. Every time I thought I might get a hold of my emotions, something happened to completely wreck me. In the middle of a fight scene between Vi and Sevika, Vander showed up and I felt like my throat was punched. Then Jinx appears behind Vi and my throat was punched. Then just as my heart is about to explode, Sting cuts in with a song that pulled me in and kept me from breathing. Sorry for the book, this episode has way too much going on for me to summarize easily. Thank you, you two rock.
Silco: Dont cry
* *Crying intensifies* *
At least we finally have a confirmation season 2 is coming out next year. I hope they dab a little into the horror elements of Zaun in next season.
Killing 2 different fathers is so fucking wild.
in my opinion jinx is one of the greatest characters ever created in ever her story is so tragic and they way she tries to deal with it is sad but also so beautiful to watch
Originally, Jinx was a Harley Quinn knockoff. Look it up. L.o.L. made Jinx to be their Harley Quinn. This show, magnificently, made Jinx her own. She is so much more now than she ever was thanks to Arcane.
When Haylo said "I think he knew he was gonna lose." Made me remember the previous episode when Vi went to shake hands with the gloves on. It gave me the impression that the glove was a representation of Vi's strength/power compared to Jayce at that moment. I could be over analyzing, though anime love to do this but usually less subtly.
So a lot of people misunderstand what silco was trying to say at vanders' monument. He was basically saying he finally understood why Vander no longer fight, he had kids he needed to look after. Sadly jinx misunderstood as well and thought he was going to give her up.
I'm surprised how many people get the Vi - Jinx - Silco interaction wrong. Vi is triggering her psychosis and Silco is trying to keep her grounded in reality.
Legit everyone who watched Arcane cried like a bitch at the end. Anyone who says they didn't is lying. I was sad for WEEKS! Jinx's character is so well written. Faaaack.
You can only call it an end of this part of the story... because she's Jinx. It's the most entire, most full-on bad-timing, wrong-choice, "jinx" decision. And, she just got up, grabbed the weapon she made for Silco and shot. No hesitation. Jinx.
It's been a long time since the video was uploaded but little fact:
The weapon Jinx is using at the end, it has a scared eye, just like Silco, because it was a gift for him
fun and emotional ride with you guys. this show is such a fucking banger, really looking forward to season 2
Rarely have I found a chapter title so well adjusted...
Jinx, the monster you have created
Btw guys here is a little information about the last scene when jinx shot "Silco" she actually shot them both not just "Silco" but "Vi" dodged it ,, You're reaction guys it's really good ♥
False. Silco shot at Vi and Jinx shot at Silco, and Vi dodged. The scene is framed chaotically for obvious reasons, but Jinx did not shoot in Vi's direction.
The irony at the end of Mel being the first to support peace, completely removing herself from her family's legacy of war. For the missile to hit right behind her, and her (most likely) being the first victim of that missile, inevitably causing her mother to use her as a martyr to go to war and to most likely invade pilltover in the next season. 😭
powder made a mistake vi hit her and blame her
silco took bullets in his chest and keeps telling her to do not cry and she is perfect
that what made the diffrence that made jinx not giving any choices to give a vi another chance to pick between powder and jinx
because vi vailed her aja showing she cares about powder
Arcane Season 2 have been confirmed and is planned to release about 1 year from now. I cant remember the exact date they were shooting for but it was around the same as Season 1 release so around Q4 2024.
man is so rude that so many people has made that comment of "oh Jayce doesnt wanna fight cuz he knows he will probably lose", that is so disrespectful to Jayce, of course he doenst wanna fight anymore, hes a scientist not a fighter and he just killed a kid by mistake... he doesnt want to hurt anyone else.
Are people being rude to your favorite video game character :(
@@MC-yt1uv i don't even play him, You just gotta learn how characters are written and what their intentions are
The last scene, last line was disgustingly good
Jinx's last words to Vi have stayed with me these past two years
What an incredible end to this amazing show seeing kiss react to the finale was amazing. If you guys want something to fill in arcane now that being over can you try the owl house it is a very great show with very good writing, plot and other stuff!
Remembering that the new season arrives this year. looking forward to your reaction
Another amazing series reaction
You 2 are a delight 😊 🖤💜
Great reaction series you two. This show, especially the ending is a modern tragedy..almost everything could have worked out. Silco, who was an outstanding layered villain almost got what he wanted, but it all went to hell in an instant.
Most of us went directly to the Wild Rift trailer just to see her happy, right after this finale. Ugh, right in the feels.
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I don't think it was a choice on Jinx's part. I think she instinctively just shot at everything to protect herself (like her episode in episode 4 on the ship). She almost hit Vi too in that spray but happened to hit Silco.
False. Silco shot at Vi. Jinx's shot didn't go anywhere near Vi. Moreover, Jinx's shooting in episode 4 was because she freaked out over seeing someone that looked like Vi. Jinx doesn't have any survival instinct.
Please never stop being awkward!
This was wonderful, thanks.
great reaction! so sweet you two. and because you are sisters it must have given a stronger weight to the series. Now wait for season 2. If possible, you could do a reaction to One Piece, the series is popular at the moment! hug from Brazil
I think it is interesting that every person that reacts to this show seems to forget that Jinx is a mass murderer and clearly beyond reason. Kaitlin should have grabbed that minigun and instantly started blasting.
That ending makes me cry every time!
I’ve always said that in that final moment, Powder reacted faster than Jinx could and gave herself up to protect Vi one last time.
I really appreciate your reactions to the series. I can't wait for the next season to come out!
If you take recommendations: Dopesick, Invincible, The Bear