It's like every plot turn is designed to make Todd look guilty forever...ugh.... He got no welcome home after 8 years of capture and of torture, and now they all believe he killed Victor. Couldn't we at least get a couple of good welcome home scenes with some sympathy and love towards Todd?
Todd was guilty. He did try to kill Victor because the writers were intent on repeating his 1996 return mistakes. He framed Tomas just like he framed Patrick, and valued vengeance more than his loved ones. Pretty tragic.
@@scamperdo If he was real I suppose I would condemn him but since he isn't, I absolutely loved him! Lol. He could do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I did hate the way the writers were constantly writing Todd as this awful person, having Todd always be guilty of lying and wrongdoing. Also some of the things they had him do weren't even in Todd's character, like giving away Blair's baby. I don't know that he would have done that. Todd liked kids.... If you go back you can find scenes where he was with other people's kids and got along great with them.
I spent years making excuses for Todd because I loved him. But, I never saw any real growth in the character. Victor did show real growth when he forgave Tea vs enacted revenge and learned to love her unconditionally.
@@scamperdo He had a lot of growth if you go back to the very beginning, and see how he acted then. It doesn't even matter for me because I just love the character and I never liked Victor. Todd is hilarious and so much fun to watch!! Victor supposedly loved Tea But he was so completely wooden and expressionless and hostile almost to everyone that I just never warmed to that character in any way.
Sure, RH Todd learned to never rape again but he remained a selfish SOB who never put love above his raging obsession with payback. Victor was selfish, too, until Tea got sick. He finally learned to put someone's needs above his. He wasn't wooden but amazingly tender. Victor proved he truly loved Tea. Todd never learned to love like that.
Destiny's folks unbelievable! Nora is trying makes things right about giving Destiny a chance to do whats good for her child and her future.While her grandmother or whatever is supporting her to do abortion.And Matthew is not only one who is reckless but Destiny too.
#TeamNoraForever. Destiny grandmother or whoever needed to worry about herself especially when she kept that secret about Greg being destiny father and not brother
This is all Destiny's and Matthew's fault, they should've used protection or better they shouldn't of had sex in the first place because they were too young and they were not ready
@@TaurusGang77 I know a lot, yes Nora did do that, but ultimately it was Destiny's decision to keep the baby she wasn't ready for, just like she had the decision to not have sex unprotected, so they both mess up and she didn't have to stop the abortion, just because Nora said so , it was her choice and now she had to live with it
Destiny's grandmother is pretending that she is supporting Destiny's decision to have the baby, when all she does is vent and complain about Nora, Felicia is acting like a hypocrite. How's she going to say that Destiny is having a baby "thanks to Nora Buchanan?" Nora is not the reason that Destiny is having a baby.
Guys what's going on here with Rogers Todd was is that oltl was through the 2 Todd's and was trying to graft old scholl Doug Marland atwt history from 1989 suddenly into Todd with Todd shooting and killing his mother irene which is coming up soon. I an attempt to lure atwt viewers over to oltl because years before Roger played paul and when Andy kavovit played Paul he killed his own father to save the women he loved Emily Stewart. Which happened in 1989. And it's ironic because the whole time Roger was playing Paul they kept writing Paul Ryan like rogers Todd but the when he comes back to oltl they are now trying to write Todd manning more like Paul stenbeck Ryan.
Honestly I have to disagree with you on that because Nora should had a say too because destiny was carrying her son child which is her grandchild also. Nora tried to have a civil conversation with destiny grandmother but her grandmother was being all rude and confrontial. I understand both sides of the story but I feel like Nora was trying to help and have a polite conversation with destiny grandmother but then it turned ugly. The only one I felt bad for in this situation bo and Nora because their son was in the hospital fighting for his life and Nora wasn't trying to peer pressure destiny about the baby. It was just like if Matthew did die then she would have something to hold on to remind her of him because that's her baby boy. Her second born like come on. I am not blaming Matthew and destiny because it just happened and they had a weak moment and they obviously wasn't thinking clearly so in my opinion if they didn't want to have a baby then they should have worn protection. I'm just saying because I am a huge forever fan of Bo and Nora especially Nora because she is my favorite soap opera character of all time. So too end this is all I have to say I don't think this fight was childish. I honestly think this was two grandmothers who both wanted what was best for destiny. That's all. I feel bad for bo and Destiny grandfather in this scene because they had to referee the fight before it had escalated because I am forever Team Nora and if I was Nora, then I would have press charges on destiny grandmother when she slapped Nora because number one that is assault and second she is a district attorney and her husband is a police commissioner. It wouldn't have been me 😂 because if someone had that to me then i would have slap them back.
It's like every plot turn is designed to make Todd look guilty forever...ugh.... He got no welcome home after 8 years of capture and of torture, and now they all believe he killed Victor. Couldn't we at least get a couple of good welcome home scenes with some sympathy and love towards Todd?
Todd was guilty. He did try to kill Victor because the writers were intent on repeating his 1996 return mistakes. He framed Tomas just like he framed Patrick, and valued vengeance more than his loved ones. Pretty tragic.
@@scamperdo If he was real I suppose I would condemn him but since he isn't, I absolutely loved him! Lol. He could do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I did hate the way the writers were constantly writing Todd as this awful person, having Todd always be guilty of lying and wrongdoing. Also some of the things they had him do weren't even in Todd's character, like giving away Blair's baby. I don't know that he would have done that. Todd liked kids.... If you go back you can find scenes where he was with other people's kids and got along great with them.
I spent years making excuses for Todd because I loved him. But, I never saw any real growth in the character. Victor did show real growth when he forgave Tea vs enacted revenge and learned to love her unconditionally.
@@scamperdo He had a lot of growth if you go back to the very beginning, and see how he acted then. It doesn't even matter for me because I just love the character and I never liked Victor. Todd is hilarious and so much fun to watch!! Victor supposedly loved Tea But he was so completely wooden and expressionless and hostile almost to everyone that I just never warmed to that character in any way.
Sure, RH Todd learned to never rape again but he remained a selfish SOB who never put love above his raging obsession with payback. Victor was selfish, too, until Tea got sick. He finally learned to put someone's needs above his. He wasn't wooden but amazingly tender. Victor proved he truly loved Tea. Todd never learned to love like that.
Destiny's folks unbelievable! Nora is trying makes things right about giving Destiny a chance to do whats good for her child and her future.While her grandmother or whatever is supporting her to do abortion.And Matthew is not only one who is reckless but Destiny too.
Tea please stop rubbing Victor head like that ugh 😫
#TeamNoraForever. Destiny grandmother or whoever needed to worry about herself especially when she kept that secret about Greg being destiny father and not brother
Nothing compared to the fact that Greg was working with perhaps the most evil person in lainveiw eli
Nora please don't blame it on Destiny and Matthew. She was handling the situation until you butted in
If destiny didn't want to have a baby then she and Matthew should have worn protection
This is all Destiny's and Matthew's fault, they should've used protection or better they shouldn't of had sex in the first place because they were too young and they were not ready
@@marvinmoore3171 what teenager you know wasn't ready n still had sex. Destiny wanted the abortion until Nora talked her out if it.
@@TaurusGang77 I know a lot, yes Nora did do that, but ultimately it was Destiny's decision to keep the baby she wasn't ready for, just like she had the decision to not have sex unprotected, so they both mess up and she didn't have to stop the abortion, just because Nora said so , it was her choice and now she had to live with it
Destiny's grandmother is pretending that she is supporting Destiny's decision to have the baby, when all she does is vent and complain about Nora, Felicia is acting like a hypocrite. How's she going to say that Destiny is having a baby "thanks to Nora Buchanan?" Nora is not the reason that Destiny is having a baby.
Felicia got on my nerves SMH. Bo should have said something but I guess he wanted to keep the peace.
Agreed!
Guys what's going on here with Rogers Todd was is that oltl was through the 2 Todd's and was trying to graft old scholl Doug Marland atwt history from 1989 suddenly into Todd with Todd shooting and killing his mother irene which is coming up soon.
I an attempt to lure atwt viewers over to oltl because years before Roger played paul and when Andy kavovit played Paul he killed his own father to save the women he loved Emily Stewart.
Which happened in 1989.
And it's ironic because the whole time Roger was playing Paul they kept writing Paul Ryan like rogers Todd but the when he comes back to oltl they are now trying to write Todd manning more like Paul stenbeck Ryan.
Fighting over an unborn baby is discusting. Nine month anything can happen on that time. This fight was more then childish.
Honestly I have to disagree with you on that because Nora should had a say too because destiny was carrying her son child which is her grandchild also. Nora tried to have a civil conversation with destiny grandmother but her grandmother was being all rude and confrontial. I understand both sides of the story but I feel like Nora was trying to help and have a polite conversation with destiny grandmother but then it turned ugly. The only one I felt bad for in this situation bo and Nora because their son was in the hospital fighting for his life and Nora wasn't trying to peer pressure destiny about the baby. It was just like if Matthew did die then she would have something to hold on to remind her of him because that's her baby boy. Her second born like come on. I am not blaming Matthew and destiny because it just happened and they had a weak moment and they obviously wasn't thinking clearly so in my opinion if they didn't want to have a baby then they should have worn protection. I'm just saying because I am a huge forever fan of Bo and Nora especially Nora because she is my favorite soap opera character of all time. So too end this is all I have to say I don't think this fight was childish. I honestly think this was two grandmothers who both wanted what was best for destiny. That's all. I feel bad for bo and Destiny grandfather in this scene because they had to referee the fight before it had escalated because I am forever Team Nora and if I was Nora, then I would have press charges on destiny grandmother when she slapped Nora because number one that is assault and second she is a district attorney and her husband is a police commissioner. It wouldn't have been me 😂 because if someone had that to me then i would have slap them back.