@idiskitv I don't think Stoichkov failed. He complained about Soweto pundits who are narcissistic in wanting everything to revolve around them. Manqoba did not even finish a season. Yeah, he should have won Carling Black Label off wish Lulani failed to win it. Also, Mtn8 is never a Sundown trophy, but he is the only one who has won it in the past 5 years. Nonetheless, you cant tell Motsepe how to run his team. Life is spiritual!!
I@MusaNunesMkansi it is true because this cardoso guy believes in playing with crosses&he relies on the second ball.....and that's not "sundowns style of play"
Sundowns winning the league will depend on the consistency of Pirates the only serious challengers nd perhaps Stellies included.But its going to be a mountain to cause Pirates is playing beautiful soccer
Flemming Berg is there to make Sundowns a Temu European team what more can we ask for look Bo Sevarda, Esquivel and them except for Ribeiro and Allende. In two years he has been here we already change coaches three times. What a successful story Eating with Agents.
I like sundowns management. Eventhough I do not agree totally with replacement of Manqoba. But I like their decisiveness. Employing a coach with CAF experience will bring us on speed to compete. Tso and his supporters will eat humble pie. Sundowns will continue to dominate
Manqoba plays mind game that cost him. you can't coach Sundowns and always say you don't want to be feared nor respected. that's bad for a coach and it shows lack of confidence
I don't think Manqoba was fired only for the few games he lost and drew, I think his attitude towards the players and media had a big impact. Sundows will continue producing results regardless of who is in charge because they've the best players in the league currently, so let's not let our emotions drown our judgment.
I feel sorry for mqithi bcz why.. Fix it when its not broken.. but as an orlando pirates supporter I'm happy bcz he always comment about orlando pirates even when there is no need
Beautiful football without end results is nothing. Let's also give Manqoba benefit of the doubt to say maybe he wanted to prioritize winning more than beautiful football.
While you just fired a coach that literally built this team together with Pitso Mosimane. If a coach deserved to be given a chance was Manqoba Mngqithi.
but what most analyst fail to explain is that Manqoba almost did an invincible and got Sundowns a treble in 2021/2022 season, he was only beaten by Chiefs that season. The big team and small teams' narrative is actually flawed. Now Problem now was the dressing room, the senior players and so-called top players sucked him.
KAIZER CHIEFS did not win 95 Trophies by firing coaches every season. We took time to build. Sundowns does not understand what it takes to be Cup kings of South Africa.
@@PhindileQuluKaizer Chiefs, one of South Africa's most iconic football clubs, has an impressive trophy cabinet. They've won a total of *93 trophies* over their 47-year history ¹. Here's a breakdown of some of their notable achievements: - *League Championships*: 12 titles, with their most recent win in the 2014/2015 PSL league trophy ². - *National Cup*: 13 wins, with their first victory in 1971 ¹. - *League Cup*: 13 titles, with their first win in 1983 ¹. - *Top 8 Titles*: 15 wins, the most by any team in South Africa ¹. - *CAF Competitions*: 1 African Cup Winners' Cup title in 2001, and runners-up in the 2020-21 CAF Champions League ² Not 95 but ke it's still above 90
Coach Manqoba was misunderstood in Mamelodi Sundowns. All he wanted was rotation. Give every player in the locker room a chance to play. That was his crime.
So true and wenze kakuhle umanqoba ....not lanto yodlala abantu abanye oko n badiniwe aba bantu...manqoba ws good thanx for them bamgxothile now ikhosi can win idowns
Let us not be emotional because we don't play for Sundowns, we don't know the mood and the relationship behind closed doors. To say Sundowns will finish outside top 4 is a bit shallow.
The Manqoba at Arrows and the Manqoba at Sundowns are totally different, this current Manqoba is all about systems and getting ahead in the boardroom, no hunger, no creativity, just the will to survive, that's what Sundowns does
The madness that our analysts speak sometimes.. How can the whole Sundowns team make a coaching change just to accommodate Sales. Coach Manqoba even said Sales isn't a player to win balls in the air.
Nkuja no tso khona into endi xakayo apha...urhulani wayeswaki kwi pirates bt now uyi hero kwi downs kuba ufike elungiselelwe kodwa brazz ngu Pitso..so lets see now who's got the style
Google this. Year 2001, Coach Manqoba Mnqithi guides Moja United fc to a record 99% win ratio in the south African 2nd division (vodacom league). He also wins the national league play offs and promotes the club to the 1st division. Losing only one game. But I bet this not the truth people want to here. I won't even start on the talent he has brought to the fore. Yall are not ready. Goodluck to the new Sundowns coach, big shoes to fill
Thi Cardoso guy didn't beat Sundowns coz he was better than Rhulan when we talk coaching . It was unfortunately T Mokwena was enjured so midfielder was not balance. Sundowns is busy doing finder finder now
Manqoba's problem is just that he is coming from Kzn. Tso is mentioning that clubs that Manqoba coached before they have not been number one on the table but the same Rulani he failed at pirates and also at Chippa. He is forgetting that it's also about the quality of players you have at that time.
I really don't understand these guys on this channel, they are not true analysts. I dnt like Manqoba at all because of his arrogance, but for Vilakazi to say Manqoba was supposed to play same way as Rhulani thats bad, so if Rhulani was fired playing a certain style,why would the next coach play the same way that previous coach played and got fired
These guys never say anything new and they keep repeating nonsense, when a coach is changed the style will change. It goes without saying but ke our legend here is dizzy
These analysts don't know what they are analysing cos they were saying Manqoba will not qualify for knockout stages now what is this hallaballoo if he is fired
Rhulani was fired because of players not the style of play...he wanted a certain player of which the management wanted a different one,that is where they disagreed on
You guys are not getting this whole thing. Manqoba knows that the reason why Rhulani was fired is because he played like he did. Now why would Manqoba continue where Rhulani left off. The person that disagrees with the Sundowns football is the sporting director and he is bringing in the coach that he thinks will introduce hi preferred style of play. That Rhulani style of play is not liked by the sporting director.
I think if you make a comment out of hurt, you end up confusing your analysis, this is what Vilakazi is doing, Downs is bigger than any coach or player, they will continue dominating SA football, that is undaubted, its all in the hands of the players to take instruction given, and create more winning chances, this is Downs.
Aaah Tso nothing is easy his vision wasn't given enough time just like Rhulani when it was make or break time they crushed him before do you think he wasn't planning to go to finals now and win CAF!
Tso is right.Flamming must also go.
Nevaa
Fleming must leave
Tso is a prophet, he saw this coming a long time ago😂😂😂
Same as me
Tso I like your input in this Sundflops Podcast Brother keep it up.
😂😂😂You sound like a Nigerian when they call us Sad Africans, they wanna be with us, but call us names, just like you...
You like the input about the club world participants. While you are Cufe and Home Legends
@idiskitv I don't think Stoichkov failed. He complained about Soweto pundits who are narcissistic in wanting everything to revolve around them. Manqoba did not even finish a season. Yeah, he should have won Carling Black Label off wish Lulani failed to win it. Also, Mtn8 is never a Sundown trophy, but he is the only one who has won it in the past 5 years. Nonetheless, you cant tell Motsepe how to run his team. Life is spiritual!!
I'll have to agree with Mr Tso on this one, the era of Sundowns dominance is over!
Wishful thinking
U guys think with emotions Tso is not a true analyst like Junior
You wish Sundowns will still dominate
Junior will never be an analyst like tso.. junior is just like nkululeko a fan of sundowns
I@MusaNunesMkansi it is true because this cardoso guy believes in playing with crosses&he relies on the second ball.....and that's not "sundowns style of play"
Hebaan! Nkululeko saying "we dominated Al Ahly in Egypt" is giving I am a Sundowns fan and can't hide it well😂
Sundowns winning the league will depend on the consistency of Pirates the only serious challengers nd perhaps Stellies included.But its going to be a mountain to cause Pirates is playing beautiful soccer
Flemming Berg is there to make Sundowns a Temu European team what more can we ask for look Bo Sevarda, Esquivel and them except for Ribeiro and Allende. In two years he has been here we already change coaches three times. What a successful story Eating with Agents.
The truth is that Coach Manqoba was not given a chance thats just the truth ......
Ulayekile
Exactly, Lulani failed and got 33% succes
after so many years, he needs a chance?
If he didn't get a chance he wouldn't have became a couch, his been there fron pitso to rhululani he needed to maintain and transform and not build
No you’re wrong, Manqoba has been there for more than 10 years
The blunder he made is to change Rhulani’s tactics instead of adding something
U always spot on Tso u said that before the season started
Lol 😅😅
Yeah 😂
He said Manqoba will finish outside top 3, so how is that true?
I like sundowns management. Eventhough I do not agree totally with replacement of Manqoba. But I like their decisiveness. Employing a coach with CAF experience will bring us on speed to compete. Tso and his supporters will eat humble pie. Sundowns will continue to dominate
Vilakazi Tso your the best analyst on that Sundflops Podcast.
Serious it’s a Sundflops podcast this nonsense
Manqoba plays mind game that cost him. you can't coach Sundowns and always say you don't want to be feared nor respected. that's bad for a coach and it shows lack of confidence
Nkululeko is in pain 🤣
Mara Tso how can you continue with the every same style that makes the previous coach sacked
I don't think Manqoba was fired only for the few games he lost and drew, I think his attitude towards the players and media had a big impact. Sundows will continue producing results regardless of who is in charge because they've the best players in the league currently, so let's not let our emotions drown our judgment.
Tnx to motsepe good decision and I believe in our new coach
You are such a sour tribalist
Even if we finish outside top 4 but we should play good football. Under Mnqithi we weren't convincing even to games that we won.
Sundowns is a cut and paste team. In life you cannot dominate everything forever.
I feel sorry for mqithi bcz why.. Fix it when its not broken.. but as an orlando pirates supporter I'm happy bcz he always comment about orlando pirates even when there is no need
Woii Woii 🤙🏽🤙🏽
after harsh criticism to Jose Riveiro now Nkewu ask Tso to use his words carefully. Jose humbled these people
This Flemming character is really suspect. He has a hidden agenda. Tsek!
Mr tso & tso
I like your analysis Mr Tso
You state your point and break it down complete
He said the same thing before the season start
Yeah 😂
Beautiful football without end results is nothing. Let's also give Manqoba benefit of the doubt to say maybe he wanted to prioritize winning more than beautiful football.
Flamming burg is turning Sundowns into European club
Wow let's give this Coach a chance,not to judge him,Mybe he will show is flames
While you just fired a coach that literally built this team together with Pitso Mosimane. If a coach deserved to be given a chance was Manqoba Mngqithi.
This kewu or Sisu esikhuli doesn't know Soccer he loves Sundflops only I think he is a 2000.
Mamelodi sundowns!. Oh coach Pitso sir.... It's sad to hear lo msangano wenzekayo kwi qembu olakhe from scrtch.
The Rulani thing is still painful for me.
I will never heal from it... That's why I wish him the best. And then the Pitso drama playing out in court 😢
I won't Subscribe in this Kewu or Vondo Khayi. But only you Tso Vilakazi. You are the best.
Nice one Tso 15
Coach was not a head coach they knew that they will replace him 😢He was a senior coach
Best analyst
Wen rhulani was fired they said its the end of sundowns it will finish top4 but ryt now sundowns is still number 1 and pirates were they belong😂😂
Tso git ut right this time salute ✌️
but what most analyst fail to explain is that Manqoba almost did an invincible and got Sundowns a treble in 2021/2022 season, he was only beaten by Chiefs that season. The big team and small teams' narrative is actually flawed. Now Problem now was the dressing room, the senior players and so-called top players sucked him.
Nyanisile just klk xana ungxekwa kuba njena
Sundowns doesn't only want to win the domestic league, that's the reason why they will fire every coach who will lose or fail to win CAF games.
Tso was spot on ngempela.He said this a long time ago.
I'd love for sundowns to finish outside of the top 4 but there's just not enough quality teams in the psl to ensure that happens
Agree with all wht tso says
KAIZER CHIEFS did not win 95 Trophies by firing coaches every season. We took time to build. Sundowns does not understand what it takes to be Cup kings of South Africa.
95 trophies Name them😮
We ....hahahaha
@@PhindileQulu: they count charity cups as well, while other teams don't include
@@PhindileQuluKaizer Chiefs, one of South Africa's most iconic football clubs, has an impressive trophy cabinet. They've won a total of *93 trophies* over their 47-year history ¹. Here's a breakdown of some of their notable achievements:
- *League Championships*: 12 titles, with their most recent win in the 2014/2015 PSL league trophy ².
- *National Cup*: 13 wins, with their first victory in 1971 ¹.
- *League Cup*: 13 titles, with their first win in 1983 ¹.
- *Top 8 Titles*: 15 wins, the most by any team in South Africa ¹.
- *CAF Competitions*: 1 African Cup Winners' Cup title in 2001, and runners-up in the 2020-21 CAF Champions League ²
Not 95 but ke it's still above 90
You built with Zwane neh😂😂😂
Coach Manqoba was misunderstood in Mamelodi Sundowns. All he wanted was rotation. Give every player in the locker room a chance to play. That was his crime.
So true and wenze kakuhle umanqoba ....not lanto yodlala abantu abanye oko n badiniwe aba bantu...manqoba ws good thanx for them bamgxothile now ikhosi can win idowns
They fire a coach but he is number one on Dstv premier league, that's Sundowns for you.
You don't understand Sundowns, we are not excited by number one ku log like Pirates
You think that's enough? I am sure you are Chiefs fan
@AndyKhozas-SA that's you fired rulani 😂😂😂 anikho patient
Even Rhulani should not have been fired in first place, he was doing very well.... Nah Sundowns is wrong shame
Sundowns should have given Bennie Macathy a chance , that guy have a potential 🤞🤞🤞. I just wish they gave him atleast one season.
Manqoba was not convincing but it was too early to fire him , he also flopped by hiring Fohloza , for a head coach he is also too calm
Let us not be emotional because we don't play for Sundowns, we don't know the mood and the relationship behind closed doors. To say Sundowns will finish outside top 4 is a bit shallow.
Sundowns fighting for top 8? Tso is crazy
What was rulanis achievements b4 coaching Sundowns as a head coach alone ????????
The Manqoba at Arrows and the Manqoba at Sundowns are totally different, this current Manqoba is all about systems and getting ahead in the boardroom, no hunger, no creativity, just the will to survive, that's what Sundowns does
i think its high time haters of this channel to open their own channel..leave nkululeko alone...
This nkuleleko guy with insults 😢 yerrr is a shame
"be careful with your words because we don't know him"
That time they were tearing Jose Riveiro into pieces without knowing him at Pirates
Vilakazi is true my bro,, Maqoba Mqithi is failed more now,, We were going down everything..
It is in the hands of the pirates how serious they are when they play uma bedlala ngamathuba izoqhubeka i sundowns iphakamise i cup again,
This is the best decision by Sundowns. I always wanted a choach with champions league experience that's it.
Presenter please give the guys a chance mu sukuba ngena e mlonywe Uma Basa khukuma
Spot on Tso 15
WELL SAID TSO
Wena vele uhlale uhhema
Manqoba wanted to have plan be,ladt season Sundowns couldn't break teams down in the final 3rd,he wanted players to adapt to two styles
This one will get a heart because of his hate for Sundowns
At the moment, the pirates are in a position to take the betway cup if they are determined to sign other players and they will win this cup
We will see we tso
That’s crazy, Sundowns fired Mnqithi coz of his bad selection and I warned him before losing to Polokwane
He must return to Golden Arrow with Mabhuti khanyeza😮
Pain is digging on someone straight up
Lol face of nkululeko when tso says Sundowns will be out of top 4. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 now we want to see that Manqoba is really a good coach
The madness that our analysts speak sometimes.. How can the whole Sundowns team make a coaching change just to accommodate Sales.
Coach Manqoba even said Sales isn't a player to win balls in the air.
Top 4 in your world number 1 is our spot
Jah neh wabeka Tso vele injalo sundowns manje izoshona phansi kubi ngempela nje izolwela top 8
Eminem Fohloza😂😂😂
😂😂
Nkuja no tso khona into endi xakayo apha...urhulani wayeswaki kwi pirates bt now uyi hero kwi downs kuba ufike elungiselelwe kodwa brazz ngu Pitso..so lets see now who's got the style
This is an upgrade... watch this space
Tso is having Phd view this season😁😁😁😁
I didn't favor Maqoba, but the decision of bringing the EUROPEAN we killing our team they have failed us dismally before
Google this. Year 2001, Coach Manqoba Mnqithi guides Moja United fc to a record 99% win ratio in the south African 2nd division (vodacom league). He also wins the national league play offs and promotes the club to the 1st division. Losing only one game. But I bet this not the truth people want to here. I won't even start on the talent he has brought to the fore. Yall are not ready. Goodluck to the new Sundowns coach, big shoes to fill
I only disagree with the below top four story, no ways, the will win the league again
I doubt because the "new coach" believes in crosses&he relies on the second ball.....that's not sundowns style of play
Thi Cardoso guy didn't beat Sundowns coz he was better than Rhulan when we talk coaching . It was unfortunately T Mokwena was enjured so midfielder was not balance.
Sundowns is busy doing finder finder now
Tso your so critical to that Portuguese Coach 😂😂
Gloy days for Downs are back...🎉🎉🎉🎉
Awuuuu tso why u never play so us I like when u say its not the right thing mani....😂😂😂😂ndandikufuna pha kwi khosi😅😅😅
Rulani inherited Pitso team , we will how he performs in Morocco. Rulani is overrated.
We acknowledge that they were great players bt when it comes to analysis they should leave it to experts
You know this analyst are really poor I mean really. The critized Maqhoba and said we will not win the league. Give the new coach a chance.
And the is nothing wrong with coach Manqoba believing in his own style of play.
Manqoba's problem is just that he is coming from Kzn.
Tso is mentioning that clubs that Manqoba coached before they have not been number one on the table but the same Rulani he failed at pirates and also at Chippa.
He is forgetting that it's also about the quality of players you have at that time.
The league is for pirates to lose we winning the league Tso
North african coaches im not sure
Portuguese not North African
Tso google does not lie Manqoba Mnqithi is fired🎉
I really don't understand these guys on this channel, they are not true analysts. I dnt like Manqoba at all because of his arrogance, but for Vilakazi to say Manqoba was supposed to play same way as Rhulani thats bad, so if Rhulani was fired playing a certain style,why would the next coach play the same way that previous coach played and got fired
These guys never say anything new and they keep repeating nonsense, when a coach is changed the style will change. It goes without saying but ke our legend here is dizzy
@ so true, if Rhulani was fired for playing beautiful football then why would the next coach want to play beautiful football?
@@anelisajonas748 no gents Rhulani wasn't fired for the style of play. They wanted cups and he failed to deliver them
These analysts don't know what they are analysing cos they were saying Manqoba will not qualify for knockout stages now what is this hallaballoo if he is fired
Rhulani was fired because of players not the style of play...he wanted a certain player of which the management wanted a different one,that is where they disagreed on
You guys are not getting this whole thing. Manqoba knows that the reason why Rhulani was fired is because he played like he did. Now why would Manqoba continue where Rhulani left off. The person that disagrees with the Sundowns football is the sporting director and he is bringing in the coach that he thinks will introduce hi preferred style of play. That Rhulani style of play is not liked by the sporting director.
I think if you make a comment out of hurt, you end up confusing your analysis, this is what Vilakazi is doing, Downs is bigger than any coach or player, they will continue dominating SA football, that is undaubted, its all in the hands of the players to take instruction given, and create more winning chances, this is Downs.
Manqoba was to work on scoring goals finish and klaar..win every game would be easy.
Bahlala be kwi top 8 kuphela. Loose all the games but rise to the occasion when playing big teams. Or win 1 cup like Nedbank.
Mtsobitso please relax, it's a collective decision made by the directors of the club.
He Said He Prefare Chasing 😂
Aaah Tso nothing is easy his vision wasn't given enough time just like Rhulani when it was make or break time they crushed him before do you think he wasn't planning to go to finals now and win CAF!