How Germany's colonial genocide shapes Namibia today | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2023
- In Namibia, Germany's bloody colonial legacy is still very much alive. It has been more than a hundred years since the German empire committed genocide in southern Africa. Its effects are still being felt today.
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Tourists should just not come if they can't find a humane reason to visit Namibia.
It's awesome to visit your people around the world and see what they have created.
What is interesting is that some descendants of colonisers are still in colonising mentality by not feeling sorry and praising what their ancestors did.
It's not controversial to choose to love ones self and ancestors instead of hating yourself and your ancestors.
Thats pretty based 😂
Why should they be ashamed for being more superior and stronger than others.
I think people should not feel sorry about themselves or their heritage, but to accept that the world has changed and remember history so it's not to be repeated...
@@purple00134 for killing and murdering woman and children they have to feel shame about themselves
Also talk about German Kamerun. They practised a brutal system of forced labor there, where punishments included cutting of limbs, castration, gauging of eyes etc under Jesko von Puttskammer. According to Roger Casement it was at least as bad as Leopoldian congo.
On the other hand german togoland was a well treated colony
Germany committing genocide again with sporting genocide
They are making the same mistake again by defending Israel
It is not a mistake by chance. It is a conscious strategy until they exterminate the other and they will make an apology to an already lost people but will have have already taken the land and resources by then.
The finger pointing at Israel is obscene and has nothing to do with this video. It seems like you are for the eradication of Israel which makes you a genocidist.
not a mistake unfortunately, it’s deliberate. it’s maddening to see history repeat in such a way.
As a state Germany is now practically owned by NATO
I'm glad Germany acknowledges the killing of Herero and Nama as genocide.
And what is about the compensations Hereros and Nama are talking about?
@@arturschlegel-ky2wt Germany and Namibia are talking about it, but some inside Namibia are unhappy with the way their government is conducting these talks. Germany is taking its responsibility and that commendable.
Have you heard of "General Plan Ost"?
The only european country to have done that towards an African Nation.
@@jeremybeau8334 Well, ask the people in Kongo about the Begians....
ask the Algerians about Mai, 8th 1945.
now I understand why Namibia is talking against Germany at the ICJ - they experienced Genocide - I did not know
To be honest, as an Australian, this is not the first genocide of the 21st century. Before and after federation in 1901 the Brittish colonies that formed present day Australia remains the site of a denied genocide. These images are so familiar to what was done to First Nations people allover this land.
'President Hage Geingob urged Germany to "reconsider its untimely decision to intervene as a third-party in defence".
President Geingob said Germany could not "morally express commitment to the United Nations Convention against genocide, including atonement for the genocide in Namibia" and at the same time support Israel.
"The German Government is yet to fully atone for the genocide it committed on Namibian soil," he added.'
Power is when you can avoid any accountability for atrocities and being able to retrospectively and comfortably reframe acknowledgement and apology as virtue.
What are you talking about?
Germany has formally acknowled the genocide and is even paying reparations in form of social projects and subsidies for agriculture and infrastructure to help the Herero communities.
Also no one alive today had any say in that matter and being able to admit that your country has commited warcrimes and apologize is a virtue that plenty of countries aren't capable of (like Japan, Turkey, USA, UK etc.)
Namibia has received the highest per capita development aid from Germany.
Im trying to describe the dynamic of power and atrocities. In general. To avoid immediate accountability until it is retrospective. Exactly that no one alive can be directly responsible.
Because at the time it happened the power shield them from any accountability.
Its bit like til today how the church manage to hide n avoid any responsibility to child abuse and some decades later, apology is issued. But its actually still happening. We know it only when they apologize cos no one dares to crack down.
May be my statement is consciously bit vague and on reflective level (havent explicitly mentioned any country actually) How might we escape the influence of power and get immediate justice when it matters the most.
@@d911tru4 It certainly deserved it, as it got people killed and land taken (and not given back). So basically those who took the land still live of it. So you know, then saying you apaloigize and give money is really easy. I wouldn't be surprised if those social projects give benefit also to local German descendants.
@@cyan_oxy6734 It's not enough. Germany must take in more african immigrants and let them enjoy the benefits of the german system.
Tf? Did I just hear that guy justifying the replica statue getting erected just so tourists can come commemorate their ancestors atrocities?
Pull that thing down, if those tourists cant find a humane reason to visit then they shouldn’t!
that restaurant owner irks me
Did u know this history isn’t being taught in Namibia anymore. When I was a child we were taught about this so I don’t know when it was taken out of the history books for our children.
Those German descendents better be lucky Namibia didn't allign themselves with communist fighters during the Cold War. Those German statues in Nambia would have been destroyed for such a display of colonial arrogance.
You’re deluded if you think that the war is over. It’s not over until we have justice.
They did align themselves with communists. That's why Namibia and South Africa have remained stagnant while Botswana has caught up to them and even surpassed them. Seriously, when did communism (as in a commando economy without private ownership) ever actually build something nice? Sure, there might be some aspects that they succeeed in, but when looking at the totality capitalistic, market economies, in liberal democracies have faired way better.
The denial is strong in this one
The mindset of the german business owner and his denial of past trauma is sickening
He does not care and believes he is entitled to all he inherited with no regard for the victims and he has not intention of giving it up!!
Germany and genocide ? No way.... Germans to do genocide ? Were did you get that ? No....
Mhhh
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Also serbians what is genocide?
After committing 2 genocides in a century, Germany now deigns to lecture the world on the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
Not just 2.
There were multiple…
german also committed genocide on Gypsies, its called Porajmos.
They're trying to go for a 3rd one.
It is only Israel that has not forgotten about their own concentration, they sing about it,they made movies about,they write about it,and they remind the world about it everyday, but Namibia, never talk or complain about it.
Yes, they do and they are asking for their land back. I just saw a documentary and they want their lands back. They dislike the colonizers who enslaved and tortured their ancestors. I hope Europeans stop stealing other people's land.
this is a glimpse of what europe did in africa.. the atrocities i hear about from my grand pa are just impossible to fathom...there is no way africans will ever consider the west as friends. thats just it
Shame on you Germany
@@SegFault69 But they dint Go to any other countries
@@MilitantPacifist69 Dear Germans: I knew about the holocaust in ww2 but I was shocked to learn about another holocaust in Namibia. Is holocaust a German thing? That's way too many holocausts.
Acknowledgement doesn't heal the scars. The best way to acknowledge will be atleast giving some land back but that will never happen and you will never hear about it
But money does 😂
Holding our the begging bowl again, look what happened in Zimbabwe when they took that land back , it was the bread basket of Africa.
Now it's a basket case economy
Show me which borders in Namibia are officially beeing considered german and drawn on world maps as "borders of the german republic".
Only cause the cultures of the countries are intertwined through tragedy, doesn't mean you can just kick everyone out of that region, seize their property and redistribute it based on race or heritage.
On an individual level, those people most likely also bought or rent property there, work there, have businesses, pay taxes and just live their life.
Holding them personally accountable with a group-guilt because of what imperialistic politician elite decided in the 1890s of a country they most likely don't even have citizenship anymore, is just going to wreck a place socially and economically cause of rage without doing anything to better the situation.
You just want to see the world burn at this point.
So wat they should not be given back their land
@@kangyejoshua1949 It is already Namibian ground, and everyone over there is paying taxes to the namibian gouvernment as namibian citizens should do.
I don't agree with the tonality of that everything over there is basically "conquered/annexed territory" at all.
This is not what young Namibians are suffering from. The problem is the corrupt government.
No, let Germany take the blame they like self loathing.
That is one of the most asinine and insulting comments I’ve seen. You cannot be African.
He is not wrong. Every country has a history, what matters is how you move into the future. The main issue at the moment is incompetence and corruption. Those are the issues we need to focus on.
@@fixnamibia6221: And who do you think are the unseen hands that are rocking the cradle and rocking gullible people like yourself to sleep? Do you think that it's the African man that's bribing one another or the foreigners that are instigating corruption so that African governments would look the other way?
As we speak there is a war waging in Sudan where Arabs who invaded and settled in Africa centuries ago are fighting amongst themselves using indigenous Africans as their foot soldiers. One side is backed by the USA and the other backed by Russia. This war is over two main things; Sudan's mineral resources, especially gold and the West's insistence of building yet another military base in Africa .... specifically Sudan.
People like you frustrate people like me because of your lack of awareness which makes you complicit to the new scramble for Africa which is taking place RIGHT NOW.
From where do you think that all the current problems came from? Your basically giving to understand that u believe that the current problems in developing countries originated from their own culture (a culture that was completely raped, distorted and manipulated by the oppressors). Even tho we should indeed focus more on the present issues, it is essential to learn, understand, remember and share the real history as the first step of developing a nation. Like a wise man said “if u don’t know where u come from, u don’t understand where u are and u don’t know where are u going “
The older generations that have that problem of not being able to change and be open to perspectives and points of views that are beyond them. They're old and set in their ways that sometimes, you just need to make sure that they die off.
This same situation is seen with many former colonies around the world where white Europeans and westerners are often seen as heros while local indigenous and non-whites are often forgotten.
This is the same with my country, the Philippines, where white Anglo-Saxon and European American coonisers are seen as saviour against the white Spanish colonisers.
Thanks for covering this story, it must be heard outside of Africa.
The period of German colonialism was so short that it seems rather extreme to blame it for issues in a culture that has existed for tens of thousands of years. Blaming capitalist, "Imperialist" regimes for their issues, and inability to function is a taught, Socialist maneuver that was actively taught by Soviet agents in Africa during the Cold War. But if you look at the history of Africa, as well as can be learned, is they were never a high-functioning culture but a land of competing tribes. In fact, in many places, colonizers in Africa improved the lives of most Africans, if things like education, greater safety, and security, industry, etc., are considered improvements.
You still don't get it, do you, Just? I'm not here for the sake of some grand plan. I'm here for the thrill of the fight. The thrill of victory. And the thrill of making history.
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Sure, massacring them made their lives much better.🙄 It is not at all about blaming Europeans for today's problems in Africa. But the blame for the crimes of that time cannot simply be ignored.
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 you really think that the rest of humanity didn't have the exact same problems for tens of thousands of years as well?
I mean the fact that MacArthur gets the whole credit of Philippines' fight against the Japanese, when in reality he ran off and left Filipino guerillas to fend for themselves for several years, only to return when the Japanese are now starting to get weakened.
I just can’t understand why the Namibians won’t take their land back
The whites who have land are also Namibians. Also, successful commercial farms contribute in a significant way to the budget of the government. It's insulting to suggest that modern Namibia is some kind of anarchy where people can just take stuff. It's not lost on me that that is exactly what the ancestors of most of the current land owners did, and I think that the descendents of the wronged should be compensated, but land grabs are bad policy when it comes to attracting foreign investment into the country.
the German guilt machine is still going i see
Nobody asked the Germans to be cruel toward others. You wanted to be cruel so pay the consequences.
@@mirquellasantos2716 im not german haha
@@ev4079 But you are making excuses for their cruelties. You are an enabler.
@@mirquellasantos2716 theres no consequences here
It does not pay to be useless if you don't want to suffer.
Humans are animals at their core, no matter how much time passes.
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We can use a rubber cover that will use gravity, in order to disguise the heating pattern that would emerge from the tracks on top of the tracks
I don't feel responsible for what my ancestors did. We live in another world now.
I don’t care how you feel…. trust and believe that I’m holding you directly responsible.
@@blackmagic6 Typical narcissist victim playing and gaslighting behavior
Well if your ancestors were colonizers (killers, rapists, thieves.....) you share their genes.
The evil that man does live after them 😅 your ancestors descendants day of recokining will come even if it takes 1000 years. Look at what the French descendants are just starting to experience 😅 and Africa has not started yet
No need to backlash him, he may not understand. but the world you live in was built by the " World before it "
This sounds familiar. However, it's not spoken of.
Look up " General Plan Ost".
Beautiful place! You can’t blame one generation for another.
The state of Deutschland keep doing the same mistake ...
Beautiful museum
“History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.” - Maya Angelou
Still…what is justice?
We bombarded with antisemitism in the west but the one they committed elsewhere is forgotten and when you talk about it they say get over it
When you say much needed tourist income for Namibia.. how much of that income is even going outside of this colony?
There are evil people everywhere, in every country. It is always the worst when monsters come into power. :/ I hate injustice - always and everywhere.
White people committed horrendous crime against humanity, thats is tge fact in humanity history
Don't nitmalise it by saying evil is everywhere. These things were not done by some evil parts of society. This was evil of culture. Greed. And Europeans still holding to same supremacy
@@Samirustem The only difference between many cultures happened to be only the tools they were able to use. Nothing more.
Evil people are there everywhere. It is the same with good people - you will find them in every country.
“Prejudice is the attribute of the primitive.”
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The absurdity of this blows my mind!
How? Explain please
I see they have long traditions in Genocides
Romanian here. In my opinion Germany of today has nothing in common with the German Empire of 1900. Post 1945 germany was divided in a capitalist part and communist part. In the communist part the soviets raped and made population exchanges ,so i doubt that in that part of germany there are true "germans" anymore. Many of them are mixed with slavs. Even today they consider themselves different from the rest of germany. Also there are german citizens of turkish ,polish, bosnian,croatian etc backround. What all of those people had to do with Namibia?
Hopefully justice will prevail
Its nothing in compare with the British colony’s.
I request your influence to amend the Property rights Act, policies and regulations. Thanks
they should rename "streets" in the bush. They also doing this to South Africa. But want all the benefits of colonialism
Very inacurate perspective of the fact, nowadays namibia became a so called colony
Justice won't be satisfied until local people don't get their land back! Just like in Palestine. If world want peace, then there should be equal rights among nations. If one nation have rights to their own state, then the other also have to have rights to have state, own land, have their own economy and so on. Confess something and still keep people subjected to the economic and political rules of non africans, that is hypocrisy!
We only hear from tribes that survived colonization.
From Germany here they don’t teach this in school but a lot about the 2.WW
2021 they recognized it as Genocide from 1904 There’s nobody alive from then to argue now that makes No sense remove all historical value. Nobody is going to come and support that community otherwise. In such poor place.
Ah, back when we had a number of awesome flags.
Anyway, the colonies were a mistake. Nothing but a money sink, not to mention the violence that ultimately just got imported back home (WW1 anyone?).
No, justice yet for the world's people if you asked "who"
Ya They need to pay reparations.
How about a story about "General Plan Ost" there Deutsche Welle?
Forgotten by who? Denial is more like it. Germany did what Germany does. Colonial Europeans just don't get it.
It will be sad if a part of history is removed. The past is the past.
Colonizers were just too ruthless. If German colonies weren't taken away after ww2 I can imagine the havoc they would have cause on the continent. Probably no Africans would have been left.
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"YEA!! Learning about genocide on vacation! Preaching to perpetual hate one and other because of what happened over 100 years ago! AWESOME!!!"
Norbert is correct! 💯
it is good for them because they own the lands
This is up there with Leopold.
Leopold was at the end of 3 centuries of this horrible exploitation and subjugation in the Congo. But most of the time it was Arab leaders doing it for hundreds of years. I only recently learned about how Leopold assumed the existing structures of this all.
@@SeeLasSee well, that makes it okay then, I guess.
Not really
No body forget that chapter of history ask turkey they forget something
who weeps for you, Africa
Thr past is the past !! Everybody had something what hurt and what was good. Toeriste is Namibias best inkomste.
Irrespective of what happend in the past, the government and people should look into future development. The fact that 70 percent of farming landing is still with whites says a lot about countrys corruption and unwillingness of namibians to fight for their own land. We as Indians took over every piece of land from the british when we got our independence. But the tourism industry should also be kept in mind as it can bring lot of money for the government.
Thought germans have changed and thought qbout completing my phd there,TGIS BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES,WHY??????!!
WHY ENTHICLY CLEANING PPL?
Omg, same thing happens again and again, supporting natenyaho too
Its shameful
Mittle Afrika moment
Germans never change.
Really? I don’t see Germany committing any genocide today in the 21st century and if anything Germany has arguably done the most to compensate and apologize for their genocidal past something other nations have not for example Japan still denies its past and has not paid reparations to Korea or China for what they did during WW2 , Belgium has yet to apologize or pay the Congo for what they did in the Congo Freestate and Turkey has yet to apologize or even recognize what they did in Armenia unlike Germany which recognized its past atrocities and has not committed another genocide in almost a century.
They are better than whites in SA though. At least they could collectively acknowledge and apologise for their past atrocities and even pay reparations. The ones we have here in southy are nowhere near as empathetic and emotionally intelligent🙄.
Germans will be Germans
Giving land back or not is like such an unsolvable question. Because you can go always futher back in history and than someone else will claim it. Is like a spiral, and as humans we have not found a solutions for it. And as longer new people life there in land which was taken from others the more difficult it gets, becayse than you get into generational blame, which in it self is also not good thing. I hope Namibia can find a good way where people work together.
GIVE THE LAND BACK TO THE PEOPLE!!!
Shame shame shame
One day, perhaps soon, aliens not of this world will come and colonize the entire planet Earth.
Don't feel too bad...
Life is hard...
History is a hard lesson to swallow.
Have you ever wondered why Germany is called Germany? Germany named after Germanicus, not Arminius? Germanicus suffered an immense defeat and was severely humiliated when the Romans were beaten by the tribes of Germania led by Arminius at the Battle of Teutoburg. But Germania is now called Germany after the name Germanicus. Not called Arminius. Not Arminius country. But Germanicus hence Germany.
Don't feel too bad about life.
Stay positive thinking.
My deepest apologies for the inconvenience. 🙏🙏
Germany, the land of Germania and Germanicus. Nice name.
🙏🙏
My late father gave me a Roman name: Cornelius. My middle name is Cornelius and Cornelius is the name of the Roman Centurion in the Bible.
I don't know but deep inside, history about the Battle Of Teutoburg feels "very painful" to me. I don't know why.
My apologies for the inconvenience. 🙏
Societies have become powerful and then fallen into complete disarray many times all over the world for tens of thousands of years. And yet everyone is so sure that if they were just left alone or just given something they would be rich. Endless history proves you wrong.
I'm fed up about the slavery that happened To them 🇩🇪😥🙋♀️
Tzi never change
Have they left?no,things are even worsen than before.
It is genocide!
Namibia has been independent for 33 years now and how is the country doing? They have a Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of 146th place according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and on a par with countries such as Brunei, Rwanda and Tajikistan. Meanwhile, countries such as South Korea and indeed China have made formidable economic progress. There are no rational excuses for, among others, Namibia. I think that Germany has nothing in particular to blame for Namibia's poor economic performance and that it would be completely wrong if Germans today were to feel guilty about this. Namibia performs quite simply economically, extremely poorly and it is not due to the German colonial era, which incidentally ended 78 years ago with the end of the Second World War in 1945. There must be limits to exploiting the Germans' bad conscience.
Incidentally, I have noticed that the Russians, in their eagerness to please African countries for political support for the war against Ukraine and the West in general, actively point out the guilt of Western countries in African countries' economic incapacity. I think that the Russians are incredibly rude with this. Several of the Central Asian countries are not doing much better economically than Namibia and they were part of the Soviet Union which only ended as recently as 1991. The question then is why DW does not attempt to balance this (in this video and remarkably several others) without exploiting the guilt of Germans for something that happened over two generations ago. I think the approach is cynical and speculative and not worthy of an otherwise proper news channel.
In other words, you ignored the whole video to defend your pride instead of admitting truth.
Just the one fact that 70 % of farmland is still owned by the whites there does not sound as if colonisation would have really ended.
German colonialism ended in 1919 with the signing of the treaty of Versailles, but German South West Africa was already in 1915 under British rule.
And 1920 the country was given to the league of Nations.
So german rule ended 108 years ago
And the Herero weren't innocent people too, the genocide was tragic nontheless. The Herero fought against other african tribes, held slaves and so on. The Herero weren't even from this region, they migrated into Namibia and took the lands of the Nama and the Orlams.
The Herero were colonizers themselves and the Nama wanted and got help from the germans.
Later the Nama fought then against the germans and were sent to concentration camp.
@@agnesagni These lands were sold to the germans though.
brunei? one of the richest (oil rich) micro-states in asia?
...also, rwanda (you mean the 'singapore of africa'?) *those (small) nation states are doing relatively quite well (compared to other neighboring countries in their regions), so what's your point?
There are always two sides to a story. The Herero unfortunately also are not innocent. Thousands of Khoi/San or Bushmen, who where the original inhabitants of Namibia where hunted like animals, used as slaves. This happened to other tribes like the Damara as well.
I like your comment. That's why all tribes and nations have warriors and a warrior culture.
In history the powerful always ruled over the weaker people. I think every existing tribe or nation took land and whatever else from others. The importance in this case is probably that Germany has money and therefore they can ask for reparations.
But I'm interested if you can name any sources for your information about the Herero.
do you have source for the enslavement and hunting of the khoisan? Its hard to find info on this.
Please don't quote me on this, maybe I should not have posted this here. That being said, there defitively is some info about this story out there. I got this info from a trip to Namibia in the late 90s. That info was on display I believe in one of the museums. I have also seen a foto of some khoisan slaves being paraded by I believe Herero warriors. By whom exactly the foto was published I cannot say for sure, but it was not too long ago.
Some of this info is not popular, especially in Namibia for political reasons. Which might explain why it is so hard to find on the internet. Additionally I to this day still find lots of historic info is available in books, journals etc but it remains unpublished on the internet. And unfortunately the jounger generations believe that the internet narrative to be always accurate. This goes for a lot of countries histories.
it's well known that the Khoi/San were displaced since the Bantu groups moved into these parts of southern africa but never heard of the Damara being enslaved by Herero...
Tribal issues existed in Africa but colonisers didn't have anything to do with it, they oppressed different African tribes regardless. That's why this comes across like a deflection. Tribal issues are for Africans to deal with. Colonisation and its effects are for whites to take accountability for.
Greetings from the very heart of humble Africa. We have been misinformed that colonialism has had us poor and depressed. Nation like Ethiopia was never colonised. What makes them poor is twenty years of communism and tribal politics.
True. Also if industrialization never occurred, how can one expect to be industrialized? Natural resource
Exports can boost wealth but rarely are enough to grow a country on their own.
Greetings from the very heart of humble Europe. I want to say that we Europeans should surrender to Russia for betterment of Europeans people.
Russia will give us oil ,gas and wheat so we innocent European people can survive harsh winter 🥶.
Quite funny. Beside the fact that Ethiopia had been invaded by Italy in the 1940es what is about the lasting colonialization under new clothes by the USA and RU for their own benefit?
I doubt your even African
Incredibly ignorant comment.
The thing that people have to realise on both sides is that they all have no hand in what happened! But they can help each other heal by acknowledging this both ways, saying yes our anchestors did horrible things but that doesnt mean i am horrible in the same way that the others have to say i know your anchestors came here and murderd my people but i know thats not you who did that. We are here now together in a country we both love so lets learn from that histort and grow closer together because of it. You dont have to forget where you came from, as long as you remember the darksides of it too.
People have always migrated in one way or another, but to punish people that didnt make these choices themselves is counter productive and will only keep the wound open.
Ps: You say that “people have always migrated in one way or another ….” But it’s mainly the European that has left a trail of tears and destruction in your wake. Australia, New Zealand, Africa, America, West Indies, South America, India etc have all suffered severely as a result of your inhumanity. Your history of debauchery knows no bounds. And as if that isn’t enough, you people are still involved in conflicts, coups, assassinations etc to destabilise the lives of poor indigenous peoples. And as if that wasn’t enough, you refuse to acknowledge what you’ve done …… not to talk of paying reparations.
White people never do anything to fix the wounds they keep their oppressive colonial mentality alive
Oh, well said but if Germans are so repented of their atrocities why not give back the land to the locals and real owners. You just want to keep colonizing and exploiting those poor people.
We can talk about healing yes. But like I think its sad how groups like Aboriginals and Native Americans are basically non-existand on their own land. The white population did a genocide and basically got rewarded for it by taking all the land.
This was a training before… you know what
Swakopmund is the most beautiful and cleanest city compared to the capital Windhoek.
How about German history in the other colony in Shandong.
Tell us more about life in Namimbia, Volga and Shangdong, what they wear, what they eat, how's the economy is run.
This part of German Empire history is part of humanity collective memory.
DW should work in thus story with a German perspective.
Such can be made into a German Heritage museum. Try to highlight positive nature & the not so enlighten moments.
Good job DW.
Looking forward to this segment of DW reporting.
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they don't know where is sandong,you should say China!
@@songnianzhang366 did Germany acquire more than Shangdong. You must update me on that.
@@kongthai.. but he means that outside of China no one knows about Shandong so you should specify
@koiu e.g DW doesn't understand where is Shangdong. 🤣 that's a good one. 👍
@@kongthai.. you know that I was talking about the people right? DW cathers to an audience not to themselves....
Indian companies are largest investor and largest employer in uk .
I can already tell a lot of people are going to talk about germany and germans and germans in Namibia needing to pay. And although I agree with these atrocities having to be acknowledged. Having this be reminded to the locals and people, to demand justice isn't going to solve anything. It would instead divide people more and create arguments. Those things happened, but aren't happening. To change something now when people just live their life isn't going to help anybody today.
Did you even watch the video? At 6:00 they explain what is happening now, they also say: "To this day, approximately 70% of Namibia's farmland is owned by whites" If Germans are still profiting from this, then there should be reparations. End of the discussion.
They mentioned 70% of farmland there is owned by white people. White people make up approx. 6% of the population of Namibia. Now you could say that's not an issue or you could draw a direct line to what happened over a hundred years ago and say they only own it because their ancestors stole the land and murdered its rightful owners. It's never that simple, history can't be brushed under the rug. Now to be clear I'm not in favor of punishing someone for what their ancestors did, but keep in mind that this issue goes beyond generational trauma and still affects the country and its residents greatly, as is true in most if not all post-colonial countries
BS
@@stanton7847 What do you mean by "considerable"?
The need to get out whilst they are stilling breathing and then we’ll send you the bill.
Do not interfere with the distant human ecological circle for the sake of your own interests.
Those African living is South African is very wicke Nigeria own our land…. Not possible
What are you saying
The period of German colonialism was so short that it seems rather extreme to blame it for issues in a culture that has existed for tens of thousands of years. Blaming capitalist, "Imperialist" regimes for their issues, and inability to function is a taught, Socialist maneuver that was actively taught by Soviet agents in Africa during the Cold War. But if you look at the history of Africa, as well as can be learned, is they were never a high-functioning culture but a land of competing tribes. In fact, in many places, colonizers in Africa improved the lives of most Africans, if things like education, greater safety, and security, industry, etc., are considered improvements.
You make good points.
However, you have you accept that most parts of the world contained warring tribes for much of their history, not just Africans. However, that history hasn't stopped those countries from developing. Maybe if there was no colonialism, the Namibians would be living peacefully and happily, maybe not as affluently as the Europeans but not everyone needs to be so affluent.
Sure, massacring them made their lives much better. It is not at all about blaming Europeans for today's problems in Africa. But the blame for the crimes of that time cannot simply be ignored.
What do you know about africa to talk about it
That genocide scared alot of Namibian people
The tribes disagreed but did not go to the length the German colonizers went
The people who were present during that time were not until their Graves because of the horrible experience they went through
I guess I can gather a few friends and decide to come to your neighborhood with advanced weapons,kill your family members make your neighbors peel their skins of let some starve to death, rape the woman and enslave them to work for me
Take your land, livestock that you have been working so hard to leave for children, grandchildren, great grandchildren
Built me some statue all over your city
Then call myself a hero and commemorate my friends who I lost in the crossfire
Than move people from my place to stay in your city and allowing your remaining people into certain places because of your skin color and celebrate it how will that make you feel? @Deaddoc Really Deadooc
Explain what a high functioning culture is
Whites dnt control 70% of namibian land. That narrative is false and misleading. Whites only control commercial agricultural land not 70% of Namibia's entire land. Commercial land in Namibia only constitute 45% of the landmass of the country. The rest is free communal land and desert.
Your right to point out the facts, however hopefully people don't think you're saying non-Germans should be happy with owning desert LOL. It may be good to leave the statistic as 70% as it is effectively the only valuable land.
Emagine if Afrika was owning even a quoter of white land in European countries 🤔🤔
@evankarthur commercial land is not the only valuable land. In fact most of the commercial farm land is in arid areas where they mostly livestock farming. The most arable land that gets plenty of rain is in commmunal land in the two Kavango regions and Zambezi.
In the 20th century, people live where their agricultural products is..
If you control that you control everything.
@@coin9007 Exactly. They wouldn't stand for it.
Sadlowski is not even a German sounding name... "This surname Sadlowski comes from a place name where the original bearer of the name would have resided. The roots of this name are the Polish word "sad," which means "orchard," and the possessive suffix "ow." There are many towns in Poland that have names built from these roots. The bear of the name Sadlowski would have originally been from one of those towns." He probably has not done the full work of discovering his ancestry. He might have just stopped where he thought it was "heroic".
It's just a surname, that just means one of his family parts probably was polish (or he married into one), but he can still say he has german heritage.
@@SegFault69plus a part of Poland was Germany till approximately 1945....
Or maybe it from others Slavic like Silesian which also part of German back them. During German colonialism in Namibia, Poland already cease of existence since their territory of today Poland used to be part of German Empire and Tsardom of Russia until the end of ww1 when Kingdom of Poland comeback due to German lost the war and the Russian Tsardom fallen by Bolshevik revolution.
@@sollte1239 part of Poland was Germany till 1918. In 1945 parts of Germany became Poland
Germany roots???of what exactly 💔💔💔
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Give me a break.
Sorry i cant feel sorry for namibia this is their land and they allow this to happen
If Namibia had remained a German colony, it's native people would be much better off today.
They would have been wiped out like the Aborigine of Australia and Native American of the USA
@@sulaak
American Indians were never wiped out. They are both sovereign states and receive government assistance. Germany would treated Namibians better yet. Just like today Germany still pays for the Holocaust.
@@browngreen933 they were wiped out, most of those" native Americans" are white and not real natives
It's comments like these that makes me sometimes feel ashamed of my heritage.
For the lack of better words "Whatse kak praat jy?!?"
Since holocaust is a German thing I don't think they would have been alive.
The problem with America today is that everyone's too focused on themselves. Nobody's thinking about the big picture. You're all too busy chasing after your own dreams, your own desires, your own happiness. But what about the happiness of the nation? What about the economy? What about the future? We need to start thinking like patriots again, like true Americans. We need to put the needs of the many above the needs of the few, and that means doing whatever it takes to keep our economy strong. Even if that means going to war. Especially if that means going to war. War is good for business, it's good for jobs, it's good for America. So let's stop thinking small and start thinking big. Let's start thinking like patriots, like sons of the Patriots. Let's make America great again!
But they are glad to come to Germany and enjoy various social help 😃
How many of them do you know that came here?
Namibians don't really migrate to other countries and the few that do usually go to the UK and other English speaking countries
@@M_KK well said.
Relax I'm joking guys was just repeating what usual racists like to say 😃
Just had a ride in my brand new Porsche 718 Boxter, which I bought scamming some foreigners but this it was poor Germans instead of Americans.
Thank you goddess of wealth, Laxmi for your blessings. 🙏🙏
How silly and so short -sighted ARE you, that you immediately need an eye test before you pick up your car keys?💩😅
Are you ok?
If you want the blessings of the Lord, you have to forgive, even the Germans, the Nativesn in America 95% were killed, in Canada 80%, in Congo 25 million died in the Balgium colony Time, they don't negotiate and pay nothing, the Germans, on the other hand, negotiate with Namibia and pay 1.1 billion euros, please forgive the Germans for your benefit. Tell the Germans we want to be best friends. God bless you, please don't delete my commuter.
Greetings from Canada.
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