Fats Navarro/ Nicknamed "Fat Girl, But Could Out Play Miles Davis

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @michaeldean9338
    @michaeldean9338 7 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks SO MUCH for this . Fats is still very much underrated.

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 7 месяцев назад +1

      For anyone who actually takes the time to hear this giant’s playing and still underrate him is absolutely ridiculous.

    • @michaeldean9338
      @michaeldean9338 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@williemakeit2346 Dare I say it? Absolutely!

  • @josesanchez-os7zr
    @josesanchez-os7zr 8 месяцев назад +23

    The great Clifford Brown was the most important follower of Fats Navarro's style. Unfortunately they both died too young.

    • @timburns5967
      @timburns5967 8 месяцев назад

      @4:22 that looks alot Clifford Brown.

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад

      @@timburns5967 because it is Clifford Brown. Apparently the uploader can’t tell Fats and Clifford apart.

    • @thomasespositio3139
      @thomasespositio3139 4 месяца назад +1

      they indeed did ,Lee Morgan as well and I guess we should mention Booker Little,all 4 better technical trumpet players than Miles

    • @josesanchez-os7zr
      @josesanchez-os7zr 4 месяца назад +1

      @@thomasespositio3139 Lee Morgan and a little before Donald Byrd, are descendants of this branch that began in Navarro and continued by Brown. Booker Little was something else, he was a "Rare avis" that unfortunately also died very young and barely left us a sign of where he could have gone. As for Miles, I think he was a genius in musical instinct. He had a sensitivity and an intuition that was ten years ahead of everyone else. He was a great trumpeter, he had his own sound, but he was not a technical trumpeter.

    • @thomasespositio3139
      @thomasespositio3139 4 месяца назад

      @@josesanchez-os7zr don';t have nearly as much Fats stuff as I do Brownie+ Lee, Lee is my favorite of the bunch, I knew the lineage of Fats,Brownie and Lee ,Donald Byrd is always sweet to listen to as, have a lot of prestige stuff with Donald and some Blue Note,beautiful player Christo Redentor

  • @Dominos-el7qr
    @Dominos-el7qr 8 месяцев назад +11

    He's one of those musicians you only have to listen to once, you know immediately he was great.

  • @schrisdellopoulos9244
    @schrisdellopoulos9244 8 месяцев назад +6

    I have the Fabulous Fat Navarro BLP 1532 Vol. 2. It swings just as much as any Dizzy record I own. It's a beautiful thing.

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 8 месяцев назад

      @schrisdellopoulos9244 ...I have FATS NAVARRO MEMORIAL (Blue Note BLP 5004), THE FABULOUS FATS NAVARRO VOLUMES 1 AND 2 (Blue Note BLP 1531 and BLP 1532), FATS NAVARRO MEMORIAL (Savoy MG-12011), NOSTALGIA (Savoy MG-12133), and several others.

  • @johnnyblue1101
    @johnnyblue1101 3 месяца назад

    “Nostalgia” is such a great and swinging tune played beautifully by Navarro

  • @retromusings
    @retromusings 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks so much for this fantastic video!

  • @FlintFandango
    @FlintFandango 8 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, thanks again! I´d like to suggest a story about Pharoah Sanders, because he´s one of my favourite musicians.

  • @jazzstoriesbynorma
    @jazzstoriesbynorma 3 месяца назад

    the great Fats! he deserves more exposition like in this video, thanx!

  • @dwayneclemons5497
    @dwayneclemons5497 8 месяцев назад +7

    Fats Navarro is my boyhood idol and hero. As a trumpet player I am, I wanted to be like Fats Navarro in too many ways, including Fats sense for melody, ideas, all conveyed with such a beautiful sound and even a trace of cynicism. Unfortunately, I even wanted to emulate Fats in some of the rather destructive, unhealthy ways. Not that I'd blame Fats, Bird, nor anyone else for my addiction. Which I think would be an irresponsible thing to do. Suffice it to say that, in spite of my 30-plus years of active addiction, I now have 12 years of being drug and alcohol free, a day at a time. I got to meet Fats sister and daughter, back in 2002, in New York at the Jazz Standard. It was a special event in honor of Fats Navarro, corelated with a headstone that was finally put onto his grave, more than 50 years his passing. Fats final resting place is at a cemetery in Linden, New Jersey. It's to my understanding that his daughter had since passed away. I think she'd passed away about 7 years ago. I'm quite sure exactly when, but it's been within the last 10 years. I have no updates on his sister. I remember Fats Navarro sister looking a hell of a lot younger than I'd ever imagine. She had salt and pepper hair. But her face and the rest of her looked so youthful, that I was almost taken aback. One thing: Those live, private recordings with Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, et. al. were actually at "Cafe Society", on May 30, 1950 not "Birdland", on June 30, 1950, as it has always been mistakenly documented. Just I'd thought that you would want to know that. Thanks a million for this wonderful dedication to Fats Navarro!

    • @jazzhonk21
      @jazzhonk21 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your memories.

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад +2

      Dwayne, I’ve heard you play at various sessions back in the day at St. Nick’s Pub and numerous other now defunct spots in Harlem. You immediately stood out from the rest of the trumpet players I’d hear at that time. You were playing the real language as played by Fats, Howard McGhee, and the like with that big sound. You and James Zollar were my favorites. Cheers.

    • @dwayneclemons5497
      @dwayneclemons5497 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@williemakeit2346 what a kind thing
      to say! Thank you! Thanks a million!

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад

      @@dwayneclemons5497 my pleasure Brother. Wishing you continued health and many more glorious notes to ring from your horn!

  • @michalisxenopoulos2192
    @michalisxenopoulos2192 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great channel, great episode. Recently discovered Sonny Simmons, avant-garde altoist, eventful life. Would love an episode on him. Thanks for your work.

  • @donaldharrison8057
    @donaldharrison8057 8 месяцев назад +2

    Please add his playing to the background of this video. I love Navarro.

    • @onetrackjazz
      @onetrackjazz  8 месяцев назад +1

      If your asking me to use his music, it's not allowed because it's copyrighted

  • @raepaul8158
    @raepaul8158 8 месяцев назад

    Great piece, thank you !

  • @Bird_Coltrane_Monk_Dizzy1113
    @Bird_Coltrane_Monk_Dizzy1113 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much for this! For years I’ve talked about Fats and how a LOT of people seem to overlook him….Fats to Clifford, both of whom had so much ahead; gone too soon. But at least we have some recordings 🙏🏼 nice work

  • @Juanramirez1234-u4c
    @Juanramirez1234-u4c Месяц назад +1

    Great video. I listen all the time to fats navarro but i didn't find any recorded interviews with. Do you happen to know if there is any recorded interviews with fats?

    • @onetrackjazz
      @onetrackjazz  Месяц назад +1

      I didn't see any during my research

  • @MarvelousMaxter
    @MarvelousMaxter 8 месяцев назад

    Fats Navarro... have a BN repressing of Prime Source. Wish he recorded more ballads but his recording career has given more than enough material to learn from his style. Getting the 4 CD collection, The Fats Navarro Story really gives a good biographical view of his career. His highs, his lows. It's grim to hear the once bold playing and extravagant range of his dwindle (Check out the sonny rollins/fats/bud session featuring tunes like wail and 52nd st, and a separate session of casbah - a contrafact of out of nowhere - where he struggles to hit the high notes he aimed for in his solo) due to his drug use. On the final CD in this collection contains a "birdland" bootleg that IIRC is the last recorded instance of fats, he plays a night in tunisia and dizzy atmosphere most notably. Those recordings are special as Fats gives a glimpse of what was, and what couldve been. His style was the cornerstone and influenced many of his musical acquaintances. Even Miles Davis, check out his Tadd Dameron recordings, especially Good Bait. Fats Navarro's sound lives on.

  • @filipcapalija454
    @filipcapalija454 8 месяцев назад

    I love your videos so much ! Thank you !

  • @williamgregory1848
    @williamgregory1848 5 месяцев назад +2

    It’s a damn shame Fats was only 26 when he died 😢

  • @condocord7544
    @condocord7544 8 месяцев назад +1

    Superb narrative! A+++double plus!

    • @Gurci28
      @Gurci28 5 месяцев назад

      Beautiful voice, excellent narrative!

    • @Gurci28
      @Gurci28 5 месяцев назад

      Theodore "Fats" Navarro was an American jazz trumpeter. One of the greatest jazz trumpeters of all time, Fats had a tragically brief career, but his influence is still felt. 0:40

    • @Gurci28
      @Gurci28 5 месяцев назад

      His legacy lives on today in the form of recordings and in the lives of those lucky enough to have known him. 8:35

  • @casimir9185
    @casimir9185 8 месяцев назад

    Keep up the videos they're a great watch

  • @kevinsplinter8595
    @kevinsplinter8595 8 месяцев назад

    Cool.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @spellerlittlewing
    @spellerlittlewing 4 месяца назад

    Great video
    Do one in John Hicks

  • @enricosenno7767
    @enricosenno7767 8 месяцев назад +3

    Please cover Ted Dameron . Cheers

    • @steves1588
      @steves1588 6 месяцев назад

      Tadd not ted.....Jazz Arranger

  • @alexpavchinski
    @alexpavchinski 8 месяцев назад +1

    One of the first guys to play a maj7 a whole step down over a dominant.

    • @dextergilford8336
      @dextergilford8336 8 месяцев назад

      Even the B flat over a G7? I’m really happy bettered in this approach. What BBC about the B natural, the 3rd of the G7?

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 7 месяцев назад

      Fats was way ahead man. On one cut I heard him do this descending fourth pattern in whole step motion over a turnaround, sounding straight out of the playbook from which Woody Shaw would operate 30 years later! I’ll double back and post the link once I find it again.

    • @ozzyduzenli
      @ozzyduzenli 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@williemakeit2346did you manage to find that recording?

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 5 месяцев назад

      @@ozzyduzenli sure did bro ruclips.net/video/7z1ma6adzxw/видео.htmlsi=4kj80jqj6Rb39nL9

  • @CaiusV.
    @CaiusV. 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you ❤

  • @robertc.walker2934
    @robertc.walker2934 8 месяцев назад +2

    Listen to Fats!✌🏿🌟🎺

  • @mr.anonymousii2654
    @mr.anonymousii2654 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do a story on Woody Shaw?

  • @dwayneclemons5497
    @dwayneclemons5497 8 месяцев назад

    The picture, at 7:05, is the only picture from this collection, that I've never seen before. I wonder what the details are. Were and when? And who is that standing next to Fats?

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 26 дней назад +1

      @dwayneclemons5497 ...That's Kenny "Pancho" Hagood.

    • @dwayneclemons5497
      @dwayneclemons5497 26 дней назад

      @@brucescott4261 ah! I see! Thank you so much!

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 7 дней назад

      ​@@dwayneclemons5497 ...My pleasure!

  • @alejandrosoza8006
    @alejandrosoza8006 4 месяца назад

    I’ve always liked Fats over Dizzy. I think Dizz hasn’t been so influential in the language as other jazz legends of his stature.

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 25 дней назад

      @@alejandrosoza8006 @alejandrosoza8006 ...Birks was the very first modern jazz trumpeter, PERIOD!!!

  • @enricosenno7767
    @enricosenno7767 8 месяцев назад

    Love Fats❤

  • @williemakeit2346
    @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад +1

    In actuality Fats had more polish at least in terms of tone than Dizzy.

  • @Don2Rich
    @Don2Rich 2 месяца назад

    Why the jabs at Miles Davis? That's not what the music was about and they were friends. Fats helped Miles with his playing. There were many trumpeters that could outplay Miles but they all lacked that thing that makes Miles great. Let's just celebrate the life and greatness of Theodore "Fats" Navarri.

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 7 дней назад

      @Don2Rich ...Miles just lived longer, that's all!

  • @williemakeit2346
    @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад +3

    Good biography video on Fats but SHAME on you for not being able to tell him apart from Clifford Brown and put up a picture of Brown in his place at 4:23. 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

    • @bucvet1979
      @bucvet1979 2 месяца назад +1

      I was about to say something about that.....

  • @PabloVestory
    @PabloVestory 2 месяца назад

    The story and the images are nice, but it would be way better playing some actual Fat's music. Same with your other videos.

    • @onetrackjazz
      @onetrackjazz  2 месяца назад

      It would be nice, except it's all copyrighted

  • @hildacolon5822
    @hildacolon5822 8 месяцев назад

    I think he was named Fat Girl because of a song he wrote - ruclips.net/video/7z1ma6adzxw/видео.htmlsi=LLvKJoX7jFn5zmpr

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 7 дней назад

      @hildacolon5822 ...Navarro had a high pitched voice.

  • @josephgutkowski2059
    @josephgutkowski2059 8 месяцев назад +3

    Miles Davis is not a great trumpet player, he's A great musician, yes ,but when compared to greats like, woody shaw, Lee morgan, Clifford brown, booker little, Freddie hubbard, Charles tolliver, Carmell jones, Kenny dorham, Richard Williams. Miles was way out of their league. He ruined what technique he had by using a cornet mouth piece to play the trumpet. An innovative talent, he was involved in the creation of three types of jazz innovations. Bop, modal and fusion. Not a great trumpet player but in his prime he was very good.

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад +4

      Like so many others who lazily bash Miles as a trumpeter, your comments show that you have no idea what you’re talking about. Miles did not use a cornet mouthpiece on his trumpet, it wouldn’t even fit if he tried. He played a Guatat #2 mouthpiece which was a trumpet mouthpiece with a deep French Horn like cup. Others including Clark Terry, Wallace Roney and Roy Hargrove have played on that piece too.
      There are plenty recordings from all eras of Miles’s career where he’s playing just as well as any of the others you’ve named.
      Miles was in and out of the hospital throughout the majority of his adult life due to sickle cell anemia, diabetes, and an endless array of surgeries he had to get over the decades. So of course he wasn’t always able to practice and keep his chops in impeccable shape. But when he managed to stay healthy long enough his tone, his range, his power, and his speed were phenomenal.
      Do your homework and check out his 1949 Paris radio recordings with Tad Dameron or check him out on “Overtime (long take)” where he’s trading 4s with DIZ AND FATS and keeping up with the both of them with his ideas his speed and his range. Check him out on the Cellar Door recordings from 1970 where he had some of the strongest technique ever heard on trumpet.

    • @willieluncheonette5843
      @willieluncheonette5843 8 месяцев назад +7

      That's like saying Monk was not a great piano player cause he didn't have the technique of Tatum. Both are great pianists.

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@williemakeit2346 ...Miles Dewey Davis III couldn't out play Birks, Fats, Maggie, Kenny, Clark, Art, Brownie, Chet, Mogie, Donald, Hub, Booker, Richard Williams, Woody, etc. The list is extremely long. Now, I love Miles! But, that fusing/rock nonsense didn't excite me at all. Brownie shut Miles down as well. I was told constantly told about Clifford Benjamin Brown, Sr. I met Edward Lee Morgan when I was fifteen years old. Navarro, and Charlie Shavers were cousins.

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@brucescott4261 I don’t care if you met Donald Duck. Who you met doesn’t impress me. Neither does your inaccurate statement on whom you think Miles couldn’t outplay.
      Let’s hear Art Farmer or Chet Baker take a solo on par with what Miles did on some of those live clips with his mid/late 60’s quintet. ESPECIALLY not Art Farmer whom I also love. Donald Byrd had his ups and downs as a player too thanks to Bells Palsy. Chet had his ups and downs too especially after the beating he took to his mouth by those goons.
      Miles did mighty damn good for a trumpeter who spent most his adult life in and out of hospitals several times a year.

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад

      @@brucescott4261 do your homework on Miles before you parrot the tired nonsense that he wasn’t a dangerous man on trumpet.
      ruclips.net/video/XQ3wpFkCF3M/видео.htmlsi=7PZ9ZeiTOfUBl3qR

  • @mindjob
    @mindjob 8 месяцев назад

    Miles wasn’t the GOAT because of how fast he could play

    • @williemakeit2346
      @williemakeit2346 8 месяцев назад

      And for the record, Miles could play as fast and intricate as anybody else. ruclips.net/video/oToQvzFLxUw/видео.htmlsi=jbhPFz8o7HmyqFu_

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 7 дней назад

      @mindjob ...You're just another Miles Davis fanboy, that's all!!!