Discussing a subject that people often stray from the Bible.
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- I find it fascinating how, in so many movements throughout church history, there seem to be the same sort of things that people want to get away from. One of those issues is hell. This topic makes many progressives uncomfortable. In this video, my guest, Lucie Clark discusses the Mormon perspective on hell. Don't miss this important topic.
Thank you for sharing this info. It's so important to be educated about beliefs of others.
First: I thank God Lucie found biblical truth and salvation and had the courage to leave the Mormon faith!
Second: I also thank God for Alisa's ministry. May He continue to help many people through her!
Third: Concerning progressives rejecting the doctrine of hell, I am convinced that a big part of the reason for this is that the traditional doctrine of hell as eternal torment is wrong. They sense this and reject it. But they almost always choose a false alternative such as some type of universalism. The Bible teaches neither eternal torment nor universalism. It teaches Conditional Immortality (aka annihilationism). I have videos about this topic on my own RUclips channel.
Michael Heiser gives a nice explanation.
Life is a journey, i know things which i was not aware of last week. We do not need to justify our past choices after new information comes to light.
The Grace which our God has is beyond the conditional love that the world feels & experiences.
Hell & all that it intails is clearly stated throughout scripture. We always need to remember that this world & everything in it & around it was created by our one true God. Therefore, his word is to be held & understood at the same magnitude. Hell is a real place where everything that is of God, does not exist.
The biggest problem in our churches is the influx of a non offending love gospel & a lack of sound doctrine, esp when it comes to salvation messages, sin, repentance & who the church body is actually representing.
The term "Modenr Christianity curdles my milk. I am a hard sell if you try to tell me that God is not the same as he was yesterday.
Alisa do you have naturally curly hair? How do you get it to look like that?
Poor Joseph Christ ... he lost his beloved son at Calvary and cast a reincarnational spell on our world in his grief. He wants us all to find the Kingdom of God (limitless space and time in the here and now) so that we wont ever again suffer from Lucifer's Manifest Destiny.
Can relate ✨❤️🕊️✨✌🏼.
First! (Will edit this comment after watching the rest of the video)
So do Mormons believe women can be gods as well? Do they have the same expectations as men relative to the after life?
No. Goddesses to their god husband. And he’ll probably have more than one.
@@CandlewickLibrary Thank you for your reply! I thought there was inequity comparing men and women with respect to their afterlives.
@@johnsmit5999 of course. I’m ex Mormon and there definitely is that inequity.
@@CandlewickLibraryisn’t there a secret name the husband uses to call his wife into heaven, so her salvation is dependent on him?
@@cherylebersohl4847 yes. You get a “new name” when you go through the temple for the first time to receive your “endowment”. I thought it was a unique name that was my real name before this life because that’s what I was taught, but actually there is an assigned name for each day of the month. As a woman you are never allowed to tell anyone your name except your husband for that reason. The man tells no one his name. I wasn’t allowed to know my husbands, and just barely found out what it was after 20 yrs of marriage because we left the church.
Per Lds mormon makes can elevate to godhood majority mon Mormons end up on earth very few like Cain get into hell
The Bible is in errant and those who dont accept it is due to their misinformation for what ever reason they choose to not accept it.
Hell is real and IS eternal period
The Reconciliation of All Things is not a "progressive" theology. It is essentially Paul's gospel, and was almost universally (pardon the pun) held to by the first 500 years of church fathers, with Augustine being the notable exception. It is shedding the vestiges of the Roman church's clutching for power and control over people, and freeing us to truly understand the nature of God's judgment - not punitive, but restorative (like a father would). That's not to say judgment doesn't exist, it's just that it ends in God's prescribed time of correction, whatever that may be. "Gehenna" burned until the trash was consumed, not forever. "Forever", by the way, is a mistranslation of aionian, which actually means "age-lasting". It has to, according to His own law, which expresses his very essence and character.
G165
Lemma:
αἰών
Transliteration:
aiōn
Pronunciation:
ahee-ohn'
Part of Speech:
Noun Masculine
Root Word (Etymology):
From the same as ἀεί G104
Thayer Lexicon:
1. for ever, an unbroken age, perpetuity of time, eternity
2. the worlds, universe
3. period of time, age
Matt 13:42,50; 25:41,46; Rom 2:5-6; Rev 20:15; 1 Cor 6:9-10
@@erikderuiter7475no the bible has no authority if you do not understand it! It’s speaking about you! If you actually think it’s speaking of others then you will be lost and therefore it has no meaning 😉
You need to go fishing!
@@lifeinthe80s I didn’t think you’d know what fishing 🎣 was. 🫏
God is not religion.
You don’t need to go to church.
Just read your bible and all the truth is in God's word.
This is a direct path to God and true salvation.
Fellowship of saints is commanded by God actually.
In the new covenant Hell is no more as it is cast into the lake of fire, as those in Christ shall be raised by the Spirit to heaven, backsliders and unbelievers shall perish on earth.
@@erikderuiter7475 Revelation 20:13-15 & 21:1. New heaven and earth, no more sea, hell and second death were cast into the lake of fire. But only for those in Christ (church, covenant, kingdom) ,as only those with the Spirit can go to heaven as John 3:13.
I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' for the NT truth.
@@lifeinthe80sinteresting comment! That the Bible “made you agnostic” RIGHT! Let this be known. From the beginning of time, everything has been a choice so for you to be an agnostic is a choice PERIOD! No one makes anyone do anything!
@@lifeinthe80sit’s not absurd! That is to the lower mind! The book has nothing to do with history! It is a metaphysical book told through allegory ( gal 4.24).. everything you are experiencing is coming from I AM ( exodus 3.14).. your awareness of being! Who and what you believe about yourself is what you are creating in your world ( perception of reality). It is wisdom!
@@lifeinthe80s The seed is sown on various soils indeed.
Revelation 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
False….false….false! It pains me to listen to hear her share misinformation. Ugh!!!!!
If hell exists for folks that have died and no longer exist then that is what the Hebrew god wants.
Personally I think death is the end of you, but you go ahead and make up stories about life after death.