If people are wondering, it is believed Tolkien created the name Sauron from the Old Irish _Samhradh_ (sow-rah). A byname of Balor that means "summer" but in context to Balor is better translated as drought or blight.
I really like the take on /DanuDanann being arts. I’ve been building a city, using Cities Skylines, that is based on the Túatha dé and the beauty of it is more based on mastery of arts (grand earthworks, vast transportation systems , much being underground, and complexes of stylized domains/neighborhoods) rather than fantastical. Very nice video, it gives me more to think about.
They were humans and they came from Scandinavia via Scotland to Ireland and in the Bronze Age. Thats why so many Nordic Gods have so many similarities to Celtic Gods. And being in the Bronze Age, the languages of Western Coastal Europe were all much closing related. Furthermore, peoples coming from Scandinavia to Ireland, is much older than the era we call the “Vikings”.
Hi... over the past 30 years I have been researching Irish Myths and another 5 years compiling the research into a logical format. Along with an extensive family tree going back thousands of years. I like yourself questioned whether the myths were real or mythical but came to the conclusion they were in fact real people. Like Mil Espaine was not a name but a title but who was the man given this title. Who lead the Milesians to Ireland... from Miletus why? The Book of Invasions: Excerpts Vol II: Míl in Egypt "Now Pharoah had a daughter named Scota, and Mil asked for that maiden, and Pharoah gave her to him: and that Scota bore two sons to him, Amorgen Glungel and Eber their names. It is then that Alexander, king of the world, drove out that Pharaoh, for he was not submissive to him, and expelled him southward into southern Eithiopia..." Before that In 334 BC, the Siege of Miletus by the forces of Alexander the Great of Macedonia conquered the city from the Persians and liberated the city. So using that as a starting point for Mil Esapine I worked backwards... and it all fit. It took a few years to piece together who Mil Espaine was. Nearchus or Nearchos ( Greek Νέαρχος; c.360 - 300 BC) was one of the Greek officers, a navarch, , on Alexander's orders, sailed from the Hydaspes River in western India to the Persian Gulf and up the Euphrates River to Babylon. While Nearchus was in egypt he and Alexander hunted Lions they killed 3 and they were laid out beside each other their blood stained the sands and Nearchus was so struch by the sight he took the inage as his new banner 3 lions on a red back ground. Called the Lions of Milesius which is associated with Mil Espaine. Hecataeus of Miletus, an early Greek geographer and world map-maker was the first known to use the term Iberia (Espaine) at about 500 BC. Who named Iberia. The word Iberia is a noun adapted from the Latin word "Hiberia" (Hibernia) originating in the Ancient Greek word Ἰβηρία (Ibēríā), To describe the Ebro River area. Hibernia is the Latin name for Ireland, taken from Greek accounts of the island. It was used by Roman historians, Nectanebo II was ultimately defeated by the combined Persian-Greek forces in the Battle of Pelusium. In 342 BC the Persians occupied Memphis and the rest of Egypt, incorporating the country back into the Achaemenid Empire. Nectanebo fled south and preserved his power for some time; his subsequent fate is unknown. And as the Irish annals told he was defeated by Alexander the great and was the last Egyptian ruler of history. The Ptolomy Kings reigned after him. But this event does not default to Nectanebo II having an adopted daughter named Scota (Scota was not a name it was where she was from) She would be Amy Tea of Scota.( Amy daughter of King Ateas of Scythia (Scota)) Nearchus (Mil) first wife was Seang the daughter of King Ateas as well But in the unused funeral chamber of the Pharoah this inscription is found. Scota Tephi/Teas (Amy-r-taeus) child birth: ♂ Wehrir [?] child birth: ♂ Colpa [?] child birth: ♂ Amyrtaeus (Amenirdisu) [?] marriage: ♂ # Galamh ? (Milidh) [?] < -343? title: Princess of Egypt Here is a marriage recorded in Egyptian records of a daughter of Nectanebo II in 343 BC, to a here to unknown man named Galamh or possibly Milidh. (Both are credited to Mil Espáine) Galamh is a name given for Mil of Spain and Milidh an Egyptian variation of Mil. His wife Scota Tephi which one of the three I can’t be sure of but there is a record of Nectanebo II giving two of his daughters away as wives to secure alliances with other Kings which would leave the youngest of the three possibly for Galamh her name being Amyrtaeus or Amy Teas, Teaphi possibly. “During the sojourn of Milesius in Egypt, he employed the most ingenious and able persons among his people to be instructed in the several trades, arts, and sciences used in Egypt; in order to have them taught to the rest of his people on his return to Spain. [The original name of Milesius of Spain was, as already mentioned, “Galamh” (gall : Irish, a stranger; amh, a negative affix), which means, no stranger: meaning that he was no stranger in Egypt, where he was called “Milethea Spaine,” which was afterwards contracted to “Miló Spaine” (meaning the Spanish Hero), and finally to “Milesiius” (mileadh: Irish, a hero; Lat. miles, a soldier). And recorded in Egyptian records as Milidh.] At length Milesius took leave of his father-in-law, and steered towards Spain; where he arrived to the great joy and comfort of his people; who were much harassed by the rebellion of the natives and by the intrusion of other foreign nations that forced in after his father’s death, and during his own long absence from Spain. With these and those he often met; and, in fifty-four battles, victoriously fought, he routed, destroyed, and totally extirpated them out of the country, which he settled in peace and quietness.” And became known as The Hero of Spain... Mil Espaine. What confounded everything and made it almost impossible to track down was the dates attributed to everything according to the 4 masters, Their dates were all over the place. SO I decided to find out which one of the 4 were correct.... None of them were. If you are interested I'll send you a PDF of everything research and family trees. I tried to find an email but found no way to drop you a line.
I always thought it was odd how all the gods of old were labeled as fallen angels as soon as Christendom hit the scene. The bible itself in the old testament acknowledged many times that multiple gods existed and governed the lands. The original wording, Elohim, meaning the gods, and bene Elohim, meaning the children of the gods.
That is incorrect. The Old Testament and other apocrypha books like Enoch describe the fallen ones who took human women and had children with them. What are you talking about
Remember that Christianity through Constaine and also the crusades basically wiped out anything pagan. Diminishing other God's and goddesses was important to present a monotheistic viewpoint that was necessary to portray what was wanted to create a patriarchy
Ask why I know that I can now say Roman and they know WHY this important, just Newbie 144.... happened once you can eliminate everything weaker that I would say don't go back until the water until this seemsnperfect advice
Great Video, this is one of the more confusing but still interesting aspects of Irish and Celtic mythology I've run across while researching it, especially Danu. Compared to their cousin pantheons of Norse and Greek gods, Celtic gods seem to be true immortals as they don't need to eat something to retain their youth and vitality like Nectar, golden apples etc but can be slain or possibly reincarnate depending on if they actually believed in reincarnation, many Norse gods die but I cant remember if any Greek ones gods. Celtic mythology has way more goddesses then other European gods making it more similar to Hindu mythology and pre Indo European mythology which seemed to worship mostly goddesses which might also be where Danu might stem from if she's not made up and most Celtic gods are earth or water gods rather then sky or gods of the cosmos. Celtic mythology also doesn't have a creation or apocalypse myth or at least has no surviving ones. Id say Celtic mythology is a little more similar to animism and things like Native American folk lore and Shintoism where spirits are god like. like the animal gods of the forest in the Ghibli film Princess Mononoke give me some Celtic god vibes if that makes sense lol. but in the end its impossible to know how much of Roman and Christianity influenced what's left of Irish and Celtic mythology so its impossible to know we can only guess.
This is rather late, but I feel like the given interpretation in the video may be the closest we get to the original idea. In any case, the food requirement is a Norse thing. The Greco-Roman Olympians+Titans+Primordials are explicitly immortal. The Ambrosia and Nector primarily serve as food and/or medicine. There are cases for Pan and Zagreus, but they are odd exceptions.
the tuatha de danann ... like asgardians and the thunderbirds of north america are hybrids ... crosses between humans and the fae ... that fought in a great war ... there are/were others. the tuatha were one of the groups that made it home.
The sword from Findias (likely Finland) was on fire like the sword of Surtr in Norse creation mythology, or the sword god gives the cherubim to defend Eden in Hebrew creation mythology. (Tuatha de Dannan are the lost Tribe of Dan). The River Brent in England is aparently named after Brigidt of the Tuatha de Dannan, yet the word Brent/Brendt comes from "Brandr", an Old Norse word meaning firey sword. Ever heard the theory that the Garden of Eden was in Finland? It's interesting if you care to look into it. I found old maps matching rivers in Finland to the descriptions of the rivers of Eden in the bible and documents written about it, and videos on RUclips for folks who don't read. Old World Florida addressed on his chanel once or twice, dudes all about some Finns. "Finn" is a common Irish surname and means "Fair". "Finnr" in old Norse means specifically the Finnish Sami people. Weird hints too like Sweden is hinting that it is SW Eden, like South West Eden which aims right at Finland. Also Tolkien based the Elves on the Finnish, astheticly and even the language. He had really specific beliefs about the Finnish. If people mistakenly interpret Tolkiens Finnish Elves as The Tuatha de Dannan it makes perfect sense given the connection here.
Really enjoyed this but there was no need for the amount of terrible Ai art. There are plenty of illustrators, especially Irish creators who would have loved to create images for this.
Agreed. I've recently changed my policy on AI art, i.e., I've stopped using it entirely. (If you check out my most recent videos you'll see I've switched to only using Creative Commons / Public Domain images. The long-term plan is to earn enough $$ to start paying an illustrator for custom images!)
Excellent video. I thought Tuatha de Danann meant "People of the Shining Valley." I have heard before that the Danube river in Bulgaria may have some connotation to the Tuatha de Danann.
love the information.. but good man, there is no need to rush your storytelling. these are ancient matters, and as treebeard says: “we never say anything unless it is worth taking a long time to say it”.
I'd like to suggest that you slow down your delivery ever so slightly. ☮ (edit: and by slightly .. I mean a lot. Also, don't let the music be near the volume of your voice. Hopefully this feedback will be received in the constructive manner in which it is offered.)
Another highly diverting contribution to your increasingly comprehensive overview of Irish mythology. Great images too, although contemporary artists always seem to put female goddesses/heroines/etc. into unnecessarily revealing and unlikely costumes ;)
Most of it is AI generated. AI bases itself on previous works and trends. The fact that those female goddesses/heroines end up in those unnecessarily revealing and unlikely costumes further proves your point.
Legend has it. That the Tuatha Dé Danann went into a sleep when people lost faith in them with the arrival of the celts and their ruthlessness nature so the Tuatha Dé Danann disappeared into the forest and went into a deep sleep in a cave and will come back if someone finds them and wakes them up at a time when the Irish need them and have faith in them again…I think that time is now.
Bro is trying to disprove these irish myths more than hes trying to tell us what they are😂 I wager him this: Science has recently admitted that multiple dimensions can exist and that they have no way of disproving that possibility. That's basically the back screen door swinging open for any science fiction notion ever. Checkmate bro
Greek and Norse gods also spend their time in mythology tricking each other, sleeping around and transforming into animals, yet people understood them as gods and worshiped them and we dont question their status as deities. Just because christians euhemerized irish myth to such an extent we are supposed to see the Tuatha De as anything but gods, when the answer is so plain and simple. They ARE the gods of the irish people, there shouldn't be overly complex semantics.
Why aren't you mentioning (j)Esus the carpenter as a celtic god? He, like Christianity required a victim to be ritually stabbed and hung from a tree for the sins of humanity. I see nobody including that deity. This is the idol of Christianity that Isaiah and Jeremiah reveal that Titus indoctrinated from the Galatians, the original celts.
I'm sorry but your reasoning about their behavior just doesn't make sense. Yes they act like humans but so do other pantheons of pagan gods What you described is exactly how the Olympians and the Aesir act. So that being the reason to say they aren't gods simply doesn't work.
Yup this is a fair criticism. From a mythological standpoint, all gods are created by humans thus some human qualities are always present in pantheons, regardless of culture. I should have said something to that effect
Basically ancient irish believed that they were humans and their ancestors who became gods .. we buried our ancients in the mounds .. so the tuatha de became associated .. but christians came and converted us and christian monks said that we were from spain and colonized the island and massacred those who DNA tests show now were our ancestors in the mounds/graves and that we should not practise ancestor worship. So basically the anciet irish believed that they were both .. humans our ancestors who became gods. Because why worship a god who isnt blood to you? why would they care ?? only your family cares.
Basically when the Christians went around spreading their faith they just down played everyone else’s gods saying they were either demons or wizards/witches, so they were Gods/Super beings but due to Christianity just steamrolling through places our historical records of their mythology is now wonky
Christianity may promote a single God, but I Enoch talks about how fallen spirits taught mankind arts and skills. It's not hard to understand why Yeats agreed with the connection. In fact the Tuathe De seem very similar to the Sumerian Apkallu as well.
Interesting connection to tuatha de danann, is the baby of prophecy in the movie Willow was named Elora Danan and the words that Willow had to speak to change the witch back sounds like tuatha de danann.
Danaos was the son of the king of Egypt ("land of the Melambodes" as it was called at the time) Belus, a descendant of Ios, and Aghinoe or Aghirroe, daughter of the Nile, and twin brother of Egypt. Euripides mentions that he had brothers Cephaes and Phineas.The Danaans are mentioned in Homer's epics. In the temple of Ammon in Thebes, Egypt, in 1859, the Egyptologist Auguste Mariette found an inscribed stele of Pharaoh Thutmose III, which depicts the armed personification of Thebes or Egypt, accompanied by 25 highly poetic verses in sacred writing. These verses list the various nations that were defeated by Pharaoh. Among them are mentioned the "inhabitants of the islands of the great sea and the islands of Danae (TANA), subject to his sovereignty" as well as "the whole circle of the beach of the great sea". This inscription proves that the Greek races that lived in Greece were called Danai from the 15th century BC.
The Greco-Roman gods aren't exactly holding the sky on their backs either, definitely Zeus isn't holding anything up except law and justice and order...
from what I have read they were the Tribe of Dan from the Bible, they were tall blond people with blue eyes,Samson was from the tribe of Dan. They were banished from Israel for refusing to fight the cananites, who were their allies, and also nephilim. they were also the vikings,they built the Ark of the Covenant,the golden lid weighed more than a ton. they knew much about magic, miracles and the supernatural. In Revelation they were taken out as one of the twelve tribes of Israel.
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Eh, it's all iffy labels: Greek gods literal children of Titans & parents of giants, monsters, nymphs & muses -- but these all different races? And do immortals just never die, never stay dead, never age (beyond maturity), somehow not of the mortal world (like nonsolid spirits), or simply "not mortals" aka inhuman?
The best trope that fits the Tuatha De Danann isn't Gods its Archons. This trope describes an ancient now vanished technologically or magically advanced civilization and it is everywhere. Most people think of this trope in its sci-fi or fantasy terms as the Precursors and Forerunners and Protheans or the Numenoreans and the Old/High Republic and the old Tevinter Imperium or some such, but you see it constantly in history and mythology as well with many people mythologizing ancient Egypt, Babylon, Sumer, the ancient Chinese empires, the ancient Vedic peoples, and of course, the Romans. The reason I think of this trope as the 'Archons' is because of the charming video game 'Fable' which does both, set in a mythologized medieval England, their vanished advanced civilization is a sort of mythic hybrid of Numenoreans and the Roman Empire, formed by a hero-king walking trope named Archon, which I find all to be terribly on the nose.
Miletos was an ancient Greek city of Ionia built on the western coast of Asia Minor (in the area that today constitutes the Aydin Province of Turkey), near the mouth of the Maeander River. The area has been inhabited since the Bronze Age.
They are offspring of the river goddess Danu (which is mentioned in Rigveda) and identical with the Danavas of the Hindu texts which are also said to be offspring of the goddess Danu. The river Danu was the now mostly submerged river which the Greeks and Romans called Eridanus, which separated Europe from Hyperborea. That means he was flowing in the south of Great Britain and Ireland between them and Europe. This identification is confirmed by the story of the war between the Danava king Salwa and Krishna. Salwa had attacked Dwaraka, the capitol of Krishna in northwest India from the air while Krishna was not there. When he came back and heard what happened he decided to attack the Danavas and defeated them, which is also reported by the Irish tradition though without naming Krishna. In this connection is said that the Danavas lived to the north of India on an Island in the sea which fits the location of Ireland.
I am pretty positive that the tuatha de were the fey and that Tolkien was right to represent them as elves.... though fey refers to fairy kind, elves, merpeople, sasquatch, and multiple other fey races
Another excellent video by IrishMyths! I'm now making my way through all of them in order. The AI art adds a lot to the videos, as a lot of these depictions don't exist as far as I know otherwise. I was also happy to hear your discussion of the Gods of Skill/ Arts instead of the People of the Goddess Danu. Looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
You’re assuming you know the exact date of the pyramids there’s a lot of reasons to believe that they’re much older than what we thought so you might want to rethink about your dates when you say 1000 years before or after they were built there’s a lot of people that are starting to believe that they’re much much olderway older
I am writing a novel based in the clash between the ancient Celtic world and the neighbouring Roman Empire on Ireland with the return of an exiled prince, Tuathal, at the time of the Roman governor Agricola. In my interpretation of the Tuatha de Danaan, they are humans of the tribe of Nimed who fled Ireland into the western sea as their cousins fled East to become the Fir Bolg. Far in the west they developed skills, science and magic, only to return to Ireland as essentially semi-divine beings. Most have long since left for Tir na nÒg, or my personal favourite, Hy Braesil, but some have slept beneath the Sidhe mounds and need to be placated by the Gaelic Irish. Why they remain? To guard against the foretold return of the Formorians!
Michael Tsarion has a theory that the Tuatha De were the lost megalith builders who founded Egypt, Greece, the Vedic civilisation, the Mayan etc. He says this is why 6 pharaohs had red hair as well as hundreds of mummies. Also why Menes, Akhenaton’s daughter Scota and Tea Tephi are all buried in Ireland. This explains why Sanskrit and Gaelic are Identical - the word itself coming from the Gaelic San Scourtia meaning sacred document. He asserts Kukulkan is likely Cuchulainn the Irish Demi god and hundreds of other proofs.
Irish + Seagal= Jewish.. then one side Levant only ..then Levant +North América came along .. its in my dna Tuatha De Danaan aka Tafolla De Durango Tepehuanes México #ComptonCaliLove
Greetings Irish Myth! Loved your videos! As a practicing Green/Hedge witch or healer I use alot of spiritual and historical leanings such as from the Tuatha Du Danann legend and other Celtic lore. Ive heard of the River Danube I do think there is association there and the Celtic tribes. There is a Goddess Abnoba who is Galeo-Roman Goddess of the springs forest and mountains. There is another Gallo-Roman Goddess known as Artio who a bear goddess is and associated with the woodlands and wild animals as well. Very intriguing how the words and interpretations are all interrelated some way or another. Cant wait for more videos! Many Bright Blessings 🐺 🐻 )0(
If people are wondering, it is believed Tolkien created the name Sauron from the Old Irish _Samhradh_ (sow-rah). A byname of Balor that means "summer" but in context to Balor is better translated as drought or blight.
Like a cold summer
Balor of the baleful eye.
The Romans called Ulster beyond the pale, Hibernia, or land of permanent winter!
They weren't far wrong.... lol
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down
I really like the take on /DanuDanann being arts. I’ve been building a city, using Cities Skylines, that is based on the Túatha dé and the beauty of it is more based on mastery of arts (grand earthworks, vast transportation systems , much being underground, and complexes of stylized domains/neighborhoods) rather than fantastical. Very nice video, it gives me more to think about.
Nice video fair play, thanks for sharing.🌱🌅🍀
I enjoyed this video
as an irish man I have always seen the Tuathe De Danann as man who rose to the status of gods through their skill
They were humans and they came from Scandinavia via Scotland to Ireland and in the Bronze Age. Thats why so many Nordic Gods have so many similarities to Celtic Gods.
And being in the Bronze Age, the languages of Western
Coastal Europe were all much closing related. Furthermore, peoples coming from Scandinavia to Ireland, is much older than the era we call the “Vikings”.
“Bronze Age Vikings”:-
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Tuatha means tribe, family, clan. De means of. And danann is Dan. In Irish language. 😊
Danann is "Danu" the goddess🙄
They were the Nephilim that settled the Islands.
It means the tribe of Dan, the Israelite tribe who sailed and landed in Ireland
Just only when Dan was a woman/female. Their creator goddess Danu sure a feminism deity.
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it is too awtha da danu...just saying
good lords learn at least somewhat gaelic words
Don't you think you should call this hyborians myths since ALL magic the god witches royally ect hyborian Ireland just got name that reasonly
Hi... over the past 30 years I have been researching Irish Myths and another 5 years compiling the research into a logical format. Along with an extensive family tree going back thousands of years. I like yourself questioned whether the myths were real or mythical but came to the conclusion they were in fact real people. Like Mil Espaine was not a name but a title but who was the man given this title. Who lead the Milesians to Ireland... from Miletus why? The Book of Invasions: Excerpts Vol II: Míl in Egypt "Now Pharoah had a daughter named Scota, and Mil asked for that maiden, and Pharoah gave her to him: and that Scota bore two sons to him, Amorgen Glungel and Eber their names. It is then that Alexander, king of the world, drove out that Pharaoh, for he was not submissive to him, and expelled him southward into southern Eithiopia..." Before that In 334 BC, the Siege of Miletus by the forces of Alexander the Great of Macedonia conquered the city from the Persians and liberated the city. So using that as a starting point for Mil Esapine I worked backwards... and it all fit. It took a few years to piece together who Mil Espaine was. Nearchus or Nearchos ( Greek Νέαρχος; c.360 - 300 BC) was one of the Greek officers, a navarch, , on Alexander's orders, sailed from the Hydaspes River in western India to the Persian Gulf and up the Euphrates River to Babylon. While Nearchus was in egypt he and Alexander hunted Lions they killed 3 and they were laid out beside each other their blood stained the sands and Nearchus was so struch by the sight he took the inage as his new banner 3 lions on a red back ground. Called the Lions of Milesius which is associated with Mil Espaine. Hecataeus of Miletus, an early Greek geographer and world map-maker was the first known to use the term Iberia (Espaine) at about 500 BC. Who named Iberia. The word Iberia is a noun adapted from the Latin word "Hiberia" (Hibernia) originating in the Ancient Greek word Ἰβηρία (Ibēríā), To describe the Ebro River area. Hibernia is the Latin name for Ireland, taken from Greek accounts of the island. It was used by Roman historians, Nectanebo II was ultimately defeated by the combined Persian-Greek forces in the Battle of Pelusium. In 342 BC the Persians occupied Memphis and the rest of Egypt, incorporating the country back into the Achaemenid Empire. Nectanebo fled south and preserved his power for some time; his subsequent fate is unknown.
And as the Irish annals told he was defeated by Alexander the great and was the last Egyptian ruler of history. The Ptolomy Kings reigned after him. But this event does not default to Nectanebo II having an adopted daughter named Scota (Scota was not a name it was where she was from) She would be Amy Tea of Scota.( Amy daughter of King Ateas of Scythia (Scota)) Nearchus (Mil) first wife was Seang the daughter of King Ateas as well
But in the unused funeral chamber of the Pharoah this inscription is found.
Scota Tephi/Teas (Amy-r-taeus)
child birth: ♂ Wehrir [?]
child birth: ♂ Colpa [?]
child birth: ♂ Amyrtaeus (Amenirdisu) [?]
marriage: ♂ # Galamh ? (Milidh) [?]
< -343? title: Princess of Egypt
Here is a marriage recorded in Egyptian records of a daughter of Nectanebo II in 343 BC, to a here to unknown man named Galamh or possibly Milidh. (Both are credited to Mil Espáine) Galamh is a name given for Mil of Spain and Milidh an Egyptian variation of Mil. His wife Scota Tephi which one of the three I can’t be sure of but there is a record of Nectanebo II giving two of his daughters away as wives to secure alliances with other Kings which would leave the youngest of the three possibly for Galamh her name being Amyrtaeus or Amy Teas, Teaphi possibly.
“During the sojourn of Milesius in Egypt, he employed the most ingenious and able persons among his people to be instructed in the several trades, arts, and sciences used in Egypt; in order to have them taught to the rest of his people on his return to Spain.
[The original name of Milesius of Spain was, as already mentioned, “Galamh” (gall : Irish, a stranger; amh, a negative affix), which means, no stranger: meaning that he was no stranger in Egypt, where he was called “Milethea Spaine,” which was afterwards contracted to “Miló Spaine” (meaning the Spanish Hero), and finally to “Milesiius” (mileadh: Irish, a hero; Lat. miles, a soldier). And recorded in Egyptian records as Milidh.]
At length Milesius took leave of his father-in-law, and steered towards Spain; where he arrived to the great joy and comfort of his people; who were much harassed by the rebellion of the natives and by the intrusion of other foreign nations that forced in after his father’s death, and during his own long absence from Spain. With these and those he often met; and, in fifty-four battles, victoriously fought, he routed, destroyed, and totally extirpated them out of the country, which he settled in peace and quietness.” And became known as The Hero of Spain... Mil Espaine. What confounded everything and made it almost impossible to track down was the dates attributed to everything according to the 4 masters, Their dates were all over the place. SO I decided to find out which one of the 4 were correct.... None of them were. If you are interested I'll send you a PDF of everything research and family trees. I tried to find an email but found no way to drop you a line.
Post link. It seems like a good read
I always thought it was odd how all the gods of old were labeled as fallen angels as soon as Christendom hit the scene. The bible itself in the old testament acknowledged many times that multiple gods existed and governed the lands. The original wording, Elohim, meaning the gods, and bene Elohim, meaning the children of the gods.
That is incorrect. The Old Testament and other apocrypha books like Enoch describe the fallen ones who took human women and had children with them. What are you talking about
@@angelsoulnme read the old testament of your bible and you'll see what I'm talking about. No apocrypha or pseudopigrapha needed.
@@angelsoulnme can you read hes right go read the bible
Remember that Christianity through Constaine and also the crusades basically wiped out anything pagan. Diminishing other God's and goddesses was important to present a monotheistic viewpoint that was necessary to portray what was wanted to create a patriarchy
Ask why I know that I can now say Roman and they know WHY this important, just Newbie 144.... happened once you can eliminate everything weaker that I would say don't go back until the water until this seemsnperfect advice
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Great Video, this is one of the more confusing but still interesting aspects of Irish and Celtic mythology I've run across while researching it, especially Danu. Compared to their cousin pantheons of Norse and Greek gods, Celtic gods seem to be true immortals as they don't need to eat something to retain their youth and vitality like Nectar, golden apples etc but can be slain or possibly reincarnate depending on if they actually believed in reincarnation, many Norse gods die but I cant remember if any Greek ones gods. Celtic mythology has way more goddesses then other European gods making it more similar to Hindu mythology and pre Indo European mythology which seemed to worship mostly goddesses which might also be where Danu might stem from if she's not made up and most Celtic gods are earth or water gods rather then sky or gods of the cosmos. Celtic mythology also doesn't have a creation or apocalypse myth or at least has no surviving ones. Id say Celtic mythology is a little more similar to animism and things like Native American folk lore and Shintoism where spirits are god like. like the animal gods of the forest in the Ghibli film Princess Mononoke give me some Celtic god vibes if that makes sense lol. but in the end its impossible to know how much of Roman and Christianity influenced what's left of Irish and Celtic mythology so its impossible to know we can only guess.
This is rather late, but I feel like the given interpretation in the video may be the closest we get to the original idea. In any case, the food requirement is a Norse thing. The Greco-Roman Olympians+Titans+Primordials are explicitly immortal. The Ambrosia and Nector primarily serve as food and/or medicine. There are cases for Pan and Zagreus, but they are odd exceptions.
the tuatha de danann ... like asgardians and the thunderbirds of north america are hybrids ... crosses between humans and the fae ... that fought in a great war ... there are/were others. the tuatha were one of the groups that made it home.
Nope, Aesir and Vanir in Norse myth clearly huge difference
Asgardians? This aint marvel bud. We are talking about real Gods and real religions. Keep the comic book fandom out of it.
@@Drengr-Wulf asgardians were real enough for the norse ... olympians were real enough for the greeks
@@ronaldjohnson7449truth is stranger than fiction. Or is fiction just the truth that is being hidden in plain sight?
Interesting video, but the speaker speaks too fast, so hard to follow and digest.
The sword from Findias (likely Finland) was on fire like the sword of Surtr in Norse creation mythology, or the sword god gives the cherubim to defend Eden in Hebrew creation mythology. (Tuatha de Dannan are the lost Tribe of Dan). The River Brent in England is aparently named after Brigidt of the Tuatha de Dannan, yet the word Brent/Brendt comes from "Brandr", an Old Norse word meaning firey sword. Ever heard the theory that the Garden of Eden was in Finland? It's interesting if you care to look into it. I found old maps matching rivers in Finland to the descriptions of the rivers of Eden in the bible and documents written about it, and videos on RUclips for folks who don't read. Old World Florida addressed on his chanel once or twice, dudes all about some Finns. "Finn" is a common Irish surname and means "Fair". "Finnr" in old Norse means specifically the Finnish Sami people. Weird hints too like Sweden is hinting that it is SW Eden, like South West Eden which aims right at Finland. Also Tolkien based the Elves on the Finnish, astheticly and even the language. He had really specific beliefs about the Finnish. If people mistakenly interpret Tolkiens Finnish Elves as The Tuatha de Dannan it makes perfect sense given the connection here.
I believe that as well I believe the many Items were plundered from each captivity I also believe them to people of color
Really enjoyed this but there was no need for the amount of terrible Ai art. There are plenty of illustrators, especially Irish creators who would have loved to create images for this.
Agreed. I've recently changed my policy on AI art, i.e., I've stopped using it entirely. (If you check out my most recent videos you'll see I've switched to only using Creative Commons / Public Domain images. The long-term plan is to earn enough $$ to start paying an illustrator for custom images!)
Excellent video. I thought Tuatha de Danann meant "People of the Shining Valley." I have heard before that the Danube river in Bulgaria may have some connotation to the Tuatha de Danann.
love the information.. but good man, there is no need to rush your storytelling. these are ancient matters, and as treebeard says: “we never say anything unless it is worth taking a long time to say it”.
I'd like to suggest that you slow down your delivery ever so slightly. ☮
(edit: and by slightly .. I mean a lot. Also, don't let the music be near the volume of your voice. Hopefully this feedback will be received in the constructive manner in which it is offered.)
Another highly diverting contribution to your increasingly comprehensive overview of Irish mythology. Great images too, although contemporary artists always seem to put female goddesses/heroines/etc. into unnecessarily revealing and unlikely costumes ;)
Most of it is AI generated. AI bases itself on previous works and trends. The fact that those female goddesses/heroines end up in those unnecessarily revealing and unlikely costumes further proves your point.
Ah of course, very good point
Where's the bad?! 😂
Legend has it. That the Tuatha Dé Danann went into a sleep when people lost faith in them with the arrival of the celts and their ruthlessness nature so the Tuatha Dé Danann disappeared into the forest and went into a deep sleep in a cave and will come back if someone finds them and wakes them up at a time when the Irish need them and have faith in them again…I think that time is now.
Tribe of Dan became the Mycenaeans, Vikings, and the Tuatha de danaan
Bro is trying to disprove these irish myths more than hes trying to tell us what they are😂 I wager him this: Science has recently admitted that multiple dimensions can exist and that they have no way of disproving that possibility. That's basically the back screen door swinging open for any science fiction notion ever. Checkmate bro
Greek and Norse gods also spend their time in mythology tricking each other, sleeping around and transforming into animals, yet people understood them as gods and worshiped them and we dont question their status as deities. Just because christians euhemerized irish myth to such an extent we are supposed to see the Tuatha De as anything but gods, when the answer is so plain and simple. They ARE the gods of the irish people, there shouldn't be overly complex semantics.
Why aren't you mentioning (j)Esus the carpenter as a celtic god? He, like Christianity required a victim to be ritually stabbed and hung from a tree for the sins of humanity. I see nobody including that deity. This is the idol of Christianity that Isaiah and Jeremiah reveal that Titus indoctrinated from the Galatians, the original celts.
I'm sorry but your reasoning about their behavior just doesn't make sense.
Yes they act like humans but so do other pantheons of pagan gods
What you described is exactly how the Olympians and the Aesir act.
So that being the reason to say they aren't gods simply doesn't work.
Yup this is a fair criticism. From a mythological standpoint, all gods are created by humans thus some human qualities are always present in pantheons, regardless of culture. I should have said something to that effect
@@irishmyths Regardless, I appreciate you accepting the criticism and taking the time to respond. Thank you.
Basically ancient irish believed that they were humans and their ancestors who became gods .. we buried our ancients in the mounds .. so the tuatha de became associated .. but christians came and converted us and christian monks said that we were from spain and colonized the island and massacred those who DNA tests show now were our ancestors in the mounds/graves and that we should not practise ancestor worship. So basically the anciet irish believed that they were both .. humans our ancestors who became gods. Because why worship a god who isnt blood to you? why would they care ?? only your family cares.
Tribe of Dan. Likely Phonecians and a Dragon Dynasty.
I love learning about mythology, but the comments sections of these videos always attract the biggest kooks.
Basically when the Christians went around spreading their faith they just down played everyone else’s gods saying they were either demons or wizards/witches, so they were Gods/Super beings but due to Christianity just steamrolling through places our historical records of their mythology is now wonky
You are mispronouncing so many names I can't watch this.
They're only considered gods because they are smarter and harder to kill than most everyone else 😂
Christianity may promote a single God, but I Enoch talks about how fallen spirits taught mankind arts and skills. It's not hard to understand why Yeats agreed with the connection. In fact the Tuathe De seem very similar to the Sumerian Apkallu as well.
Interesting connection to tuatha de danann, is the baby of prophecy in the movie Willow was named Elora Danan and the words that Willow had to speak to change the witch back sounds like tuatha de danann.
Ooo I never noticed that before!
@@irishmyths it shouldn't be a surprise since we were all told by Led Zeppelin the story remains the same and only the names and faces change.
Danaos was the son of the king of Egypt ("land of the Melambodes" as it was called at the time) Belus, a descendant of Ios, and Aghinoe or Aghirroe, daughter of the Nile, and twin brother of Egypt. Euripides mentions that he had brothers Cephaes and Phineas.The Danaans are mentioned in Homer's epics. In the temple of Ammon in Thebes, Egypt, in 1859, the Egyptologist Auguste Mariette found an inscribed stele of Pharaoh Thutmose III, which depicts the armed personification of Thebes or Egypt, accompanied by 25 highly poetic verses in sacred writing. These verses list the various nations that were defeated by Pharaoh. Among them are mentioned the "inhabitants of the islands of the great sea and the islands of Danae (TANA), subject to his sovereignty" as well as "the whole circle of the beach of the great sea". This inscription proves that the Greek races that lived in Greece were called Danai from the 15th century BC.
The fir bog do not come from greece, greece came afrter the irish there decents of us your butchering irish history
The Greco-Roman gods aren't exactly holding the sky on their backs either, definitely Zeus isn't holding anything up except law and justice and order...
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from what I have read they were the Tribe of Dan from the Bible, they were tall blond people with blue eyes,Samson was from the tribe of Dan. They were banished from Israel for refusing to fight the cananites, who were their allies, and also nephilim. they were also the vikings,they built the Ark of the Covenant,the golden lid weighed more than a ton. they knew much about magic, miracles and the supernatural. In Revelation they were taken out as one of the twelve tribes of Israel.
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Eh, it's all iffy labels: Greek gods literal children of Titans & parents of giants, monsters, nymphs & muses -- but these all different races? And do immortals just never die, never stay dead, never age (beyond maturity), somehow not of the mortal world (like nonsolid spirits), or simply "not mortals" aka inhuman?
The best trope that fits the Tuatha De Danann isn't Gods its Archons. This trope describes an ancient now vanished technologically or magically advanced civilization and it is everywhere. Most people think of this trope in its sci-fi or fantasy terms as the Precursors and Forerunners and Protheans or the Numenoreans and the Old/High Republic and the old Tevinter Imperium or some such, but you see it constantly in history and mythology as well with many people mythologizing ancient Egypt, Babylon, Sumer, the ancient Chinese empires, the ancient Vedic peoples, and of course, the Romans. The reason I think of this trope as the 'Archons' is because of the charming video game 'Fable' which does both, set in a mythologized medieval England, their vanished advanced civilization is a sort of mythic hybrid of Numenoreans and the Roman Empire, formed by a hero-king walking trope named Archon, which I find all to be terribly on the nose.
Miletos was an ancient Greek city of Ionia built on the western coast of Asia Minor (in the area that today constitutes the Aydin Province of Turkey), near the mouth of the Maeander River. The area has been inhabited since the Bronze Age.
Nose tax was going too far imo.
They are offspring of the river goddess Danu (which is mentioned in Rigveda) and identical with the Danavas of the Hindu texts which are also said to be offspring of the goddess Danu. The river Danu was the now mostly submerged river which the Greeks and Romans called Eridanus, which separated Europe from Hyperborea. That means he was flowing in the south of Great Britain and Ireland between them and Europe.
This identification is confirmed by the story of the war between the Danava king Salwa and Krishna. Salwa had attacked Dwaraka, the capitol of Krishna in northwest India from the air while Krishna was not there. When he came back and heard what happened he decided to attack the Danavas and defeated them, which is also reported by the Irish tradition though without naming Krishna. In this connection is said that the Danavas lived to the north of India on an Island in the sea which fits the location of Ireland.
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I am pretty positive that the tuatha de were the fey and that Tolkien was right to represent them as elves.... though fey refers to fairy kind, elves, merpeople, sasquatch, and multiple other fey races
They were never Gods as in the God of Heaven....They were Godly in their Crafts and wisdom
Are they anything to do with the tribe of Dan - who was the son of Jacob? One of the 12 tribes of Israel. In the bible like… 🫣
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The lore is kinda tough here, kinda wanna make an animr about it
0:16 kinda like valkyries exepct she doesnt take fallen warriors to valhalla
Another excellent video by IrishMyths! I'm now making my way through all of them in order. The AI art adds a lot to the videos, as a lot of these depictions don't exist as far as I know otherwise. I was also happy to hear your discussion of the Gods of Skill/ Arts instead of the People of the Goddess Danu. Looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
The Norse gods are gods but are not God so putting it together
The tribe of Dan
Have i been mispronouncing McLeod?
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2:54 my name means son of the seas
You’re assuming you know the exact date of the pyramids there’s a lot of reasons to believe that they’re much older than what we thought so you might want to rethink about your dates when you say 1000 years before or after they were built there’s a lot of people that are starting to believe that they’re much much olderway older
"Tribe of The Arts"
The intro is the best one-minute sumary ever 😂 Love it!
I am writing a novel based in the clash between the ancient Celtic world and the neighbouring Roman Empire on Ireland with the return of an exiled prince, Tuathal, at the time of the Roman governor Agricola. In my interpretation of the Tuatha de Danaan, they are humans of the tribe of Nimed who fled Ireland into the western sea as their cousins fled East to become the Fir Bolg. Far in the west they developed skills, science and magic, only to return to Ireland as essentially semi-divine beings. Most have long since left for Tir na nÒg, or my personal favourite, Hy Braesil, but some have slept beneath the Sidhe mounds and need to be placated by the Gaelic Irish. Why they remain? To guard against the foretold return of the Formorians!
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Well done.
I'm not saying they're aliens . . . but they're aliens.
You're the smartest human 😂
Time travelers
Very recently confirmed to myself via a being inhabiting a human body that was vacated by it's original owner. They are not of Earth.
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They have come to help fight off the fomorians and the forces of balor!
wow, this was a great video. thanks!
thanks for watching! (and for the nice comment!)
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Why doesn't anyone talk about Bress?
3:30 i like that now transition
1:40 what about epona?
Michael Tsarion has a theory that the Tuatha De were the lost megalith builders who founded Egypt, Greece, the Vedic civilisation, the Mayan etc. He says this is why 6 pharaohs had red hair as well as hundreds of mummies. Also why Menes, Akhenaton’s daughter Scota and Tea Tephi are all buried in Ireland. This explains why Sanskrit and Gaelic are Identical - the word itself coming from the Gaelic San Scourtia meaning sacred document. He asserts Kukulkan is likely Cuchulainn the Irish Demi god and hundreds of other proofs.
Sounds like the wild speculation of a man with no credentials and little experience.
Glad u can say it properly
Irish + Seagal= Jewish.. then one side Levant only ..then Levant +North América came along .. its in my dna Tuatha De Danaan aka Tafolla De Durango Tepehuanes México #ComptonCaliLove
Greetings Irish Myth! Loved your videos! As a practicing Green/Hedge witch or healer I use alot of spiritual and historical leanings such as from the Tuatha Du Danann legend and other Celtic lore. Ive heard of the River Danube I do think there is association there and the Celtic tribes. There is a Goddess Abnoba who is Galeo-Roman Goddess of the springs forest and mountains. There is another Gallo-Roman Goddess known as Artio who a bear goddess is and associated with the woodlands and wild animals as well. Very intriguing how the words and interpretations are all interrelated some way or another. Cant wait for more videos! Many Bright Blessings 🐺 🐻 )0(
Thank you so much for the thoughtful comment and insight! Definitely curious to learn more about those deities you mentioned 🙏
IDK... They're behaviors do sound a lot like Greek & Roman deities😅
no for real
They were neaderthal hybrids from the levant...
Dude, they are Indo-Europian