Thor - The Defender of Man (Norse Mythology Explained)
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Thor is a very well-known god due not only to being featured in movies, but in the English days of the week. Yet despite this notoriety there has been perhaps less focus on understanding him and his function in the ancient Germanic religion. This documentary attempts to answer some of the questions surrounding Thor and help to better understand the power and meaning he holds in everyday life as well as unlocking some of the mysteries of his myths.
Chapters
00:00 - The Beginnings
01:30 - The Names of Thor
02:55 - The Hammer of Thor
09:56 - Historical Worship & Powers
15:54 - Thor, Saint Olaf and the Rosette
21:00 - Thor vs Odin
23:57 - Sacrifice to Thor
25:55 - Origins of Thor
28:38 - The hidden myth concerning Thor
32:31 - The home and family of Thor
40:30 - Thor and the sun
43:30 - Thor's guise
46:05 - Thor and goats
47:20 - Thor, Loki and UtgardLoki
52:53 - Thor contests the waters and his fate
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As a Germanic Pagan, this taught me several things about Thor I did not know. Thank you! And Hail the Thunderer.
Hail Thor, the great Storm God and patron of the common folk. He is both of inconceivable strength and the mighty purifying presence as befitting of the lord of lightning. His Hammer seems much like the Hindu-Buddhist Vajra which signifies both lightning and indestructible stone and is the symbol for enlightenment. A great video as always, thank you for the perfect gift on Thursday.
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Odin - Demon Guru Shukracharya / Brahma. Hammer/Wheel - Sudarshana Chakra . Thor - Vishnu/Shiv/ Balram
Hailsa!
@@brigidroche1006 Meds. Now.
@@Amfortas are you saying that people who discuss Indo-Europeans should be medicated, or was there a deleted comment that makes “Meds. Now.” seem out of context now?
Are you, in the words of Michael Jackson, “talking to the Man in the Mirror”?
Hail Mighty Thor, our protector
All-Hail The protector of all the realms and The God Of Thunder🙏🏻
Perfect upload for a Thursday
When i saw that the video was an hour long i understood that you would do Thor justice.
Fascinating work Lugh. It’s immediately obvious how much effort and dedication went into creating this.
I see some similarities between Thor and Iranic/Aryan "Tir" ("Tishtrya" in Avestan) based on the information provided here. According to "Tishtar Yasht" Tir directs the rain through generating thunder and lightning. He is in a sort of eternal struggle with "Daeva Apaosha", the drought bringing demon. Tir interestingly "mingles his shape with light, moving in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with golden ears and a golden caparison" in his battle against the daeva who appears "in the shape of a dark horse, black with black ears, black with a black back, black with a black tail, stamped with brands of terror".
Because of a certain lack of offerings (basically sacrifices) by the worshippers, Tir is almost defeated when "Ahura Mazda" intervenes and helps him overcome Apaosha…
In Modern Persian the word "تیر /tīr/" in addition to being the name of the deity and the 4th month of the Persian calendar (June-July), also means arrow.
Based on the similarities between Thor and the Slavic "Perun" you mentioned, and considering the association of Perun with archery, I think you can kind of suggest there’s a possibility of a connection between the three deities (although the evidence is not very solid).
There can also be some etymological connection between the name Perun and Modern Persian words like "پر /par/" (feather), "پرواز /parvâz/" (flight, flying), "پریدن /parīdan/" (flying, jumping), "پراندن /parândan/" (to shoot, to make something fly, to throw), the suffix "پران /parân/" (thrower of), etc.
It’s already a super long comment but I suggest researching Tir/Tishtrya, "Tirgan" festival, Tishtar Yasht, etc.
Lovely video for Thursday
Thor’s day
Criminally underrated channel! Always look forward to your uploads 👍
Perfect upload for Thor's day
I like how you mention the prime of man being in the mid to early 30s. I was just having a conversation not two nights ago about just that, when the mind and the body are in alignment, the body still young enough, but when the mind finally reaches a usable maturity. I also think that the falling beneath the waves has to do with sailing the oceans, because sailors aren't masters of the sea, they're simply on it, and for a long time sailing was kind of an art form, so it feels to me kind of like a word of warning, "Do not jest with the sea, for even Thor, master of storms and water ways, is overcome by the stormy seas" kind of as a way to keep the ego down or something. That's what screams to me anyway. Great video, I appreciate the hard work and effort you've shared with us. Oh right, also, another thought that popped up for me, Thor Alexandros, a little bit of mix tho
I am a really proud Norse pagan from Dublin Ireland lord Odin and lord Thor are my gods I pray to lord Odin and lord Thor everyday and night for their support knowledge and wisdom I do believe in my heart that lord Odin and lord Thor want me to become a Norse pagan priest one day that's one thing I am going to try and make happen it would be honour to teach people about the Norse gods
Mighty Thor!!!
this is an important video. it's unfortunate that so many misconceptions about Thor exist thanks to Marvel and the clod of boor games.
Great episode! You showed sides of Thor I never knew of. I really enjoy the thought of Thor being older than Odin (Wotan) as "Thor" existed even in the times of Sumeria.
Who was Thor around those times?
I’m under the belief Thor was actually Enlil from Mesopotamia
@@StarSeedAcademy8 I agree. He was known by many different names based on the "time" and the "culture" such as "Taranis" or "Lugh" in the Celtic Pantheon or "Perun" in the Slavic Pantheon.
@@random2829 Yes also Indra & Jupiter/zues, besides the name similarities it’s crazy when you really get into the stories of different pantheons because things start to sound almost word for word but different Gods/characters or the same message of both gods but from a different story.
This is one of the best docs I have seen on Thor. May all the gods bless you Lugh! Cheers from the Northern Cascades
This might genuinely be one of the few ones I rewatch. Lots of food for thought in this one.
I was baptized Catholic. However, I have been researching Norse Mythology for months. There is something magical about these legends and myths that I find appealing. It is interesting that the gods are not depicted as perfect, flawless, and without blemish or eccentricity.
We are legends 😊😊
I find the gods relatable. Not perfect. They have their own issues.
None of the gods are ever described with "omni."
Not omnipresent. Not omnipotent.
Oddly, I find this appealing as well.
Incredible presentation, well done! I would absolutely love if you did a similar video on Freyja. She is a similarly misunderstood, complex and multifaceted diety that has deep roots in Indo-European mythology.
The best video about Thor hands down, just like all your videos. When you think you know and have heard everything about the mighty thunderer, then you show us we don’t know everything lol examples, stories, and comparison etc were perfect. Iv watched it 3 times now. Can’t wait for the next video.
Hail Thor!
One of your best ever uploads. Loved it. Thank you....
Great work as always! Thank you for this, I enjoyed it immensely.
You've received a gift and our gifts are the lessons received from you, and for this I have much gratitude . Your content is seriously more moving than the what I have heard in a Judeo-Christian church by far, I wonder why that is.
Ah yes, I remember when Thor took Stormbreaker for the 1st time and fought side by side with an Elf, and a Dwarf to fight the Goblin King, and the Witch King of Angmar, singing music from the Band, Amon Amarth...and said..."It's Clobberin' Time!"
You should write a book about your previous videos! Your commentary is too valuable!
Very interesting video. I'd love to hear more about the Norse mythology, as it's very dear to my heart. 😊
The idea/theory of Sif's hair being cut as a symbolism of the golden grains on the fields being reaped is especially interesting, when you take into account, that in some Northern countries (I believe, Denmark especially) there are phrases like "Loki is harvesting his oats" when you can see the heat of summer shimmering over the horizon on the fields. These ancient gods are all connected to nature, so it makes sense. I never believed Loki cut Sif's hair "just for fun". He's not evil, despite what many people think. The details of those old stories might be lost to us, but there will have been a deeper meaning to it.
For one, apparently they had an affair while Sif was already married to Thor. A typical punishment for unfaithful women in that time was to cut their hair short. In Lokasenna Loki points out many of the other god's faults and flaws. So, perhaps him cutting Sif's hair was also his way of calling her out on having betrayed her husband, even if it was with Loki himself. 😅
On the other hand, going back to the harvesting of grain fields theory, this hair cut story could indeed symbolise the cutting of grains. And what happens after a harvest? You come back home with the great riches of that harvest - in other words, Sif's new golden hair which Loki went and got from the dwarves. A good harvest would have been "gold worth" (her new hair was made from gold) in times where it granted you to survive the harsh winter. It could have been a story about the necessity of a rich harvest.
Sorry for getting carried away about Loki here. He's special to me. ☺ I did enjoy all the information about Thor in this video!!! 👍
I concur with most of your points, having read all the old stories years ago. But I did not know about the summer heat and Loki folktale, thank you for sharing!
@@violenceislife1987 You're welcome! 😊 Apparently, aside from this "Loki is reaping his oats" phrase when you could see the summer heat shimmering over the fields, they also sometimes said "Loki is herding his goats". That I find interesting, too. Because another incident with Loki and a goat is found in the story about how he made Skadi laugh... 😂 This phrase comes from Denmark as well, where there are accounts of goats being tied to poles in front of people's houses (in ancient times!), to let the neighbors know you've made a sacrifice to the god. In these accounts it's not mentioned *which* god. But poles are often phallic symbols, and, well... Yeah, the Skadi story! 🤣 Maybe goats weren't just an animal special to Thor, but perhaps Loki, too, and that's another detail that's now lost to history. It's always said, Loki wasn't worshipped, but in truth we can't know that for sure. Perhaps we just haven't yet found any surviving evidence, and perhaps these goats on poles in a country where there are phrases about Loki herding goats are a tiny fragment of what might have indeed been some veneration of him. It's all speculation, of course, but I want to hold onto some wishful thinking. ☺
There seems to be an association of the goat with the storm, wind, and celestial gods in the hindu vedas. Goats pull the chariot of Pushan, the nourisher god that guides the Sun's path in the sky, and people's paths on earth. Aja Ekapada is an obscure deity relating to either lighting (as a swift goat), or as an animal sacrifice, later substituted by grain. Somewhat parallel, Vayu, the wind, is charioter of Indra, the stormgod, driving the chariot pulled by ruddy horses, accompanied by the Maruts, the golden-clothed lighting warriors.
Great to see such parallels!!!
@@Boricuapsico24 It's indeed very fascinating!! Thank you for the comment! One of Loki's kennings is Loptr, which more or less means "the airy one" or "of the air". Many think of Loki as a fire deity, but at least his kennings seem to also often connect him to air/wind. Another mysterious name of his is Gammleid, which translates inso "vulture's path". It's never explained why he's called that. But the vulture's path would, again, be the air. Now, Thor has his goats as well, and in the old stories Thor and Loki are often travelling together. As do thunder and storm in nature in our own physical world.
I haven't read into all those Hindu or Proto-European deities yet, but I've often seen other Norse pagans compare various of those deities with Loki, also explaining why many see him as a fire deity, and their arguments do make sense in these cases (if there are indeed parallels between these pantheons). Sorry for going on about Loki so much, but he's the one I know the most of (hehe, and not because of Marvel!). I should probably read into these Hindu gods sometime, as it seems very interesting to find the similarities. 😊
Ostara publications has a lot of books on ancient European mythology and all European history!
Thank you, another great video. The research and accuracy are impressive.
Great stuff, well needed, and well presented.
I am a really proud Norse pagan lord Odin and lord thor are my gods thankfully I am 4 days sober from alcohol and two weeks clean from drugs one day at a time i hope to be going to rehab soon all hail the Norse gods of Valhalla skal from a very proud heathen Viking warrior peace people
Great work! Keep going. It's amazing how deep we can see Thor mighty through your eyes. Thanks
All hail lord Thor great storm thunder god who i have been workshiping my whole life and his great wise father all hail lord Odin and all hail lord Thor all hail the Norse gods of Valhalla
4:55 : in hungarian too, the archaic word for lightning (together with thunder) is ménkű, mennykő [ˈmɛɲkøː], which translates to heaven-stone
Don't know if you are a Norse pagan yourself but I am and this video has helped me get closer to the god I worship, thank you for making this ❤
But Thor isn’t real?
@@heroicsquirrel3195 I'm a pagan, I believe he is real. I don't care if you don't, this sort of thing is very individualistic.
@@Nonameisback999 believe what you want but it’s obvious hes not real
@@heroicsquirrel3195 if you want to believe that thats fine, but to me jesus isn't real either.
@@Nonameisback999 whats Jesus got to do with it
Thank you for the video it was very informative. Keep up the great work ⚔️
Excellent presentation, I especially liked the narration of the kennings. They feed the mind with art and invoke the spirit of these multifaceted aspects of nature that become personified in tales of men as men, for they could only conceive of such beings through their own experiences.
that was great. I'm just now finding you but I will definitely be watching more
Wonderful program! It has revived my memories of seeing the beautiful country of Wales and the fascinating culture that endures.
Thank you very much for such comprehensive and carefully researched content.
Thanks you for your research into this! I look forward to watching more of your vids like this one. Hail Thor!
Thank you! I will do so in the near future
Absolutely excellent and informative.
Fascinating. Excellent narration too.
Thank you for this ancient history of our ancestors through folklore, music and stories. Thanks for taking the time and effort this video is great 👍 👌 🤙
Love your videos. Thank you.
I loved this video so so much. Just showed me how we modern people oversimplify Gods due to them having specific domains,when in reality they're so much more. Great video. It was like wacthing a movie.
Short handle stone hammer...
Striking stone for making fire.
Spark/Holy flame/lightning/sunlight/truth.
Thunder, drum beat, heart beat...
Thor/Wili/Lodur!
Son born of the Skyfather and Earthmother, therefore he too is the "Skyfather"
Oathkeeper
Oak, salmon, goat, bull, serpent, rowan...
Good video!
Love your content! Please keep it up!
Namaste
Wow. So well done. Thank you 🔨
Brilliant video 👍🏻
Thanks really good video.
I LOVED THIS! Please cover more Norse gods and goddesses. 🫶🏻
mythological and historic Thor lived and many Thor's still live.
Just as I opened your video, a huge lightning and thunder storm has come over. Unbelievable ⚡🌩️⚡🌩️😎. From Cape Town South Africa 🇿🇦
Here in the Vaal lightening thunder but lutu rain
great video
Beautiful
Great video. Hail the Thunderer!
The story of Halfdan is something I never read. And now that i'm searching it, I cannot find it. Maybe is one of those obscure tales that we have to dig to find it.
Amazing video, as always.
It's in Saxo Gramaticus' "The Danish History"
www.gutenberg.org/files/1150/1150-h/1150-h.htm
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Thank you so much for this.
Bless you.
It sounds like the story of Heru/Horus & Osiris!
Horus had to be hidden & it was said their were actually twins Horus the elder & Horus the child, one avenges father vs set.
Please add captions on the youtube settings on your youtube videos, not in the video itself, please i love your videos, its better to understand these difficult names
corn is a "new world" crop. the word 'kern/korn/corn' was like kernel, meaning a seed or piece of grain. but definitely no ears of corn were influencing nordic lore.
Beautiful art by Diana for sure ❤️
Thanks!
Thank you!
Hi , thanks for this valued information,, i would like to add some information for you, i noticed its a fairly old video and wonder if ur still responding to comments ?? ☺️Kind regards
Brilliant ❤
it is interesting to take such a deep dive look into Thor, considering most people think that he is not very mysterious, and that his nature is perfectly clear, but I guess there is always more than what meets the eye when it comes to the old gods
Swatzika is thors symbol
19:23 what about the long handled hammer pendants from 6th century Kent
Looking forward to a fresh take.
Can you please do one dedicated to the All-Father Odin?
very cool
I came here just before 100k club and im going to stay till 1mil and onwards :)
9:20 I have heard that other versions of the thundered myth don't have the short handle, and that detail is unique to Scandinavian mythology.
I read that mjol meant flour and that mjonir was a reference to the grindstone that made flour, my theory is that mjolnir means something like "dust maker" or "dust render" in relation to its crushing force.
To mill or grind
@Chris John yeah that's a very direct translation but think about how we use language, a lot of times we use a word or term in broader ways especially colloquially
Thor god of thunder ⚡💪🏻
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Thos was so good
This is very fascinating and I was taught that Thor or Tor was Wotan’s (Odin) (Wodanaz) son I have learned a few things from this to add to more depth of understanding of Norse Paganism as well as Germanic and Celtic Paganism all of which I am into.
Great video 👍 makes sense that Thor would have been associated with archery as I would imagine Flint tipped arrows would make quite the spark, might even be able to start fires.
Commenting for cyber-system stuff... Great stuff as always FoL.
Hail Thunor
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Nice timung.
Does anyone know where I can read more about this kind of stuff at this videos level of depth? About Norse mythology, or celtic mythology? The Wikipedia pages for both are somewhat scarce
Sacred texts is a pretty good website that has public domain books on religion/myth and other things.
"But when that storm god you all praise
Walks the earth and shatters trees
You huddle close beside my gift
And whisper prayers beside the spit
And as the woodsmoke turns and twists
You owe your lives to sly Loki..."
This is one of my favorite channels! Thank you Kevin! I wonder if you have ever read The British Edda by LA Waddell? Gives a whole new take on Thor! What about Ragnarok: Age of Fire and Gravel by Ignatius Donnelly? Fascinating hypothesis about how Ragnarok happened long ago and is the source of the worldwide mythology concerning the Serpent falling from the Heavens and causing Fimbulwinter and other tales of a global conflagration.
I don't tend to agree with theories that explain things in this way, but they are interesting to think about. I believe it is more likely just related to how people up to the present use rivers to mark boundaries. The river Styx, for instance, was a real river that flows still, sometimes sinking down into the earth and disappearing. However, the myths of Styx being one of the rivers that must be crossed to access the underworld has its origin in the time when the proto-Greeks dwelt in the northern reaches of Greece and Thrace. Going beyond the river was to go into the unknown world beyond.
The myths about the dragon and water do seem to predate Indo-European. It may come from similarities between the twisting of a river and the twisting of a snake,
@@FortressofLugh Thank you for your reply and for all the great videos you have made. Here's to continued success and output!
@FortressofLugh the Nazis loved thor. The swatzika is his symbol. They used to sacrifice children to him in Germany. Until St. Boniface defeated him with the Christmas Tree representing Jesus Christ as the Tree of Life!
Lol, you believe jewish lies
To be fair jack, many have destroyed artifacts to the abrahamic faith and not died or been slain, so I'm not sure not dying for cutting down a tree means anything, he built a church not a Christmas tree and also he was slain so I'm not sure that God has very much power as most of his life is best described as failure, though he was clearly a man of dedication .
Grazie.
Thank you!
You should consider opening a subscribstat also for another option. If one of the current decides you are suddenly undesirable, it will be hard to get people to migrate over and some people prefer to use a service that hasn't yet fallen to censoring creators for something they may or have been accused of doing by the media off their platform. Expanding to other video platforms is a good idea too
Awesome video.
I'm not sure if I would say Thor is an exclusively ranged warrior. For all intents and purposes he's also a god of strength and has fought without a weapon at all. The lightning and Mjolnir are his most powerful weapons (the same thing I believe). And, of course, he's a storm god, so, fertility. And, if one reads the literature and takes the literal meanings of words, it all gets much more profound.
47:45 what is the name of this poem because I’d like to read more?
I am a really proud Norse pagan lord Odin and lord Thor are my gods my gods have empowed me with their great knowledge and wisdom to get sober and stay sober all hail the Norse gods of Valhalla skal peace balance people
I like how in Norse mythology, his hammer is more of a Dumbbell looking object, rather than Marvel's Mijolnir, With ancient trinkets showing a wide wedge shaped head, an angled shaft, and another, smaller wedge for the hilt.
We never hear much about the Slavic gods so thanks for bringing them in!
I’ve read also that it was slavics who were first in Europe after the Scythians then all the rest followed… but I’m not sure
The symbology of the wheel is interesting as you find it on the Jupiter pillars and are obviously held as symbols. The rosette is too widespread to connect it wih Thor or with the wheel, there is a danger here of picking up any symbol common enough, just like the circle or the star and create a mythology around it. Rosettes are found everywhere in the world on wooden art, including the Maori in New Zealand and various people of Africa...
GOW fans realising that Thor is actually a defender of mankind like Marvel depicted and not some fat Drunken Genocidal maniac: 🤯
35:28
432,000 Warriors?
There are said to be 432,000 years in the Kali Yuga, if im correct. What is the significance of this number?
Hi. Thinking of another possible connection between Thor and Christianity through the Celtic Cross, with the wheel in the centre. If you have time please tell me what you think of this.
Thank you for your research. I haven't seen another site that describes the breadth and depth of knowledge that you produce.
Michael Barrett
I not only thought of the same but the story of Ezekiel and the wheel.
He’s linked to saint Elijah through Perun, Elijah was taken up to heaven by the wheel
This is SOOO Jungian to me, as the chronicler but not originator of stories over time and place. It says that people have always been capable of metaphor, abstraction and art - which to me make life worth living. Thank you!
Your content is superb.
It's almost tempting to imagine that the image of Thor throwing his hammer goes all the way back the first ever "warriors," early humans who fought off predatory animals by throwing stones.
I recall Loki taking the form of a fly, to steal the hair of Sif.
Other than Loki's own slander, in Lokesanna, which I would not call a reliable reference, I don't recall reading any examples of Her dishonoring herself with him. Can you provide references?
Thors hammer is a Shamanic drum hammer. In the old pantheon there were 7 original deities: Creator Sustainer and Destroyer, Consciousness and Matter, and the 7th was the Whole. The Consciousness aspects/deities were male, and the Matter aspects/deities were female. In the Northern Tradition the male deities were Odin Thor and Loki. And the female were Freya Frigga and Hella. The males, representing Consciousness, are together named Frey - Lord. The females, representing Matter, were named Freya - Lady. These 2 together are the Whole, named Nerthus.
Thor is the Sustainer. In other traditions He is named Vishnu, Poseidon, Enlil, Mars, etc.
The Sea is Great Mother!!!! Nerthus. Very important. Everything comes from Her.
The Rose is sacred to and represents Great Mother.
Funny you use Transylvanian castles as illustration for a tale about Thor. I could identify Vajdahunyad castle and Bran castle, but not the third ruined one. Impressive late medieval castles indeed, though I didn't catch the connection with Thor, nor between Thor and the late medieval period of Eastern Hungary (today in Rumania).
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