Great video! I just got a late 1970 SG Very similar break. The neck tenon had a similar gap at the bottom as you describe! Thanbks for this video! Pegs: same on mine
@bjornronneberg wow, so the pegs are original. Such a strange system. Hope you had luck repairing it. Owner decided to keep the finish on this one and not repaint it.
That type of case, don't they put strain on the neck joint, headstock? I got very lucky with the first case I bought for my SG from Musicians Friend, it holds it perfectly on the body/neck angle with clearance at the headstock. I've heard a good fit is not always easy to get.
Cool guitar! Those aren't decals on the peghead, those are inlays. Looks like the type of saddle(bridge) you're gonna need is a ABR1 bridge. Can't wait to see the end results!!
Gibson started using the non dotted “i” logo inlay in early 69 or so. They also were using a pearl block inlay and silkscreened the lettering on starting mid 69 or so. That’s why you see a lot of these guitars from the same period with the finish clear coat coming off and leaving a ghost outline of the Gibson logo. The crown inlay was used on most Gibson electric guitars. With the exception of Les Paul models and Gibson inadvertently used the crown on a few of the first 68 Les Paul Goldtop reissues.
So fascinating to watch these kind of repairs! Unfortunately, I have a very similar break on my SG standard '61. Do you take any regular repair jobs on thag kind of thing? If so, how much would this run me?
The rounded area on the neck joint that you have seems to be a late 60's SG design. Conversely, I have a 1967 SG and the bottom end of the neck is more elongated and tapered. Anyway, for what it's worth, there ya go!!
The dowels were part of the first fix. Those early SG’s with the short neck tenons are notorious for neck/body breaks. It’s a common fix procedure , but it doesn’t always work…
My speculation is that the person who repaired it previously did the weird stuff you're noticing. Same with the dowels, probably the previous repair person. Gibson doesn't do their neck tenons like that. You can find videos of their factory tours on youtube for reference. Also finding a 3rd pickup route in this you could make it into a custom.
1969. That's the pantograph logo. That's why it looks weird. Google the pantograph logo and you'll see what I mean. That's why there is no dotted i in the gibson logo
Ditch the case, or it’ll end up with another neck break and/or hdstk break. That’s a Fender or Rickenbacker case,not good for a pitched neck and hdstk Gibson…
Congrats - you just ruined a highly sought after guitar by making repairs with Ca glue, and Epoxy!!! SMFH - you ruined any chances of a real luthier repairing/preserving it properly.
How so? The neck pocket NEEDED to be reformed. I did not use CA glue OR epoxy to FIT the neck. It's titebond type 1. Easily removable an easy to reset the neck if needed.
Great video! I just got a late 1970 SG Very similar break. The neck tenon had a similar gap at the bottom as you describe! Thanbks for this video! Pegs: same on mine
@bjornronneberg wow, so the pegs are original. Such a strange system. Hope you had luck repairing it. Owner decided to keep the finish on this one and not repaint it.
You can tell it's a genuine Gibson - The neck's broken.
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Lol! Arrogant idiots still won't change neck angle or price them reasonably and morons STILL waste money on them. Geez!
As has already been pointed out, it's a 2nd series SG Standard. I'll add an age once I get through the video. It's pre Norlin, no volute.
That type of case, don't they put strain on the neck joint, headstock?
I got very lucky with the first case I bought for my SG from Musicians Friend, it holds it perfectly on the body/neck angle with clearance at the headstock. I've heard a good fit is not always easy to get.
Cool guitar!
Those aren't decals on the peghead, those are inlays.
Looks like the type of saddle(bridge) you're gonna need is a ABR1 bridge.
Can't wait to see the end results!!
Gibson started using the non dotted “i” logo inlay in early 69 or so. They also were using a pearl block inlay and silkscreened the lettering on starting mid 69 or so. That’s why you see a lot of these guitars from the same period with the finish clear coat coming off and leaving a ghost outline of the Gibson logo. The crown inlay was used on most Gibson electric guitars. With the exception of Les Paul models and Gibson inadvertently used the crown on a few of the first 68 Les Paul Goldtop reissues.
wow thats a swimming pool rout if Ive ever seen one
There are certainly Gibsons with strong necks. We call them Fenders.
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"Saved all my wood shavings."
Lol. I think I picked that up from Norm Abrams on the New Yankee Workshop.
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Well, yes, Norm is a genius.
So fascinating to watch these kind of repairs! Unfortunately, I have a very similar break on my SG standard '61. Do you take any regular repair jobs on thag kind of thing? If so, how much would this run me?
The rounded area on the neck joint that you have seems to be a late 60's SG design. Conversely, I have a 1967 SG and the bottom end of the neck is more elongated and tapered. Anyway, for what it's worth, there ya go!!
The dowels were part of the first fix.
Those early SG’s with the short neck tenons are notorious for neck/body breaks.
It’s a common fix procedure , but it doesn’t always work…
It was a good idea with the dowels, but poor execution. He did end up getting a better case. The old one went to the dump. 😁
norlin shaped cavity on back. late 69 also no bevels on rear horns. could even be a 70.
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My speculation is that the person who repaired it previously did the weird stuff you're noticing. Same with the dowels, probably the previous repair person. Gibson doesn't do their neck tenons like that. You can find videos of their factory tours on youtube for reference. Also finding a 3rd pickup route in this you could make it into a custom.
Definitely. I've seen those vids, plus the great hr long modern one. I never noticed dowels 😁
"Dowels." yep weird stuff. Wood was wrong on these too.
They had dowels from factory by this point. Had a couple of these they all had em
Looks like mine which is actually a 67
1969. That's the pantograph logo. That's why it looks weird. Google the pantograph logo and you'll see what I mean. That's why there is no dotted i in the gibson logo
That's good to know 👍
Yup my 68 sg special has the same Pantagraph logo
yeah they started in late 68 with the crappy logo
Was this on Reverb?
Hi Willie, No this was the same owner since new. Bought at Wurlitzer music in Boston, Ma.
C.T.S. Chicago Telephone Supply
Wasn’t Gibson still using bumblebee caps in 69?
The use Sprague black Beauty caps with orange stripe
in the 60's
Ditch the case, or it’ll end up with another neck break and/or hdstk break.
That’s a Fender or Rickenbacker case,not good for a pitched neck and hdstk Gibson…
Try charcoal briquettes in the case.
That is a good idea.
@@promognome ...also, lighter fluid.
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Wayyyy too much camera movement!!!
@@Gunslinger320 Probably. This was one of my first videos. Thanks for commenting!
Audio too low very Bad
the start and end is an extension of an already boring movie.
Thanks 😄
Congrats - you just ruined a highly sought after guitar by making repairs with Ca glue, and Epoxy!!! SMFH - you ruined any chances of a real luthier repairing/preserving it properly.
How so? The neck pocket NEEDED to be reformed. I did not use CA glue OR epoxy to FIT the neck. It's titebond type 1. Easily removable an easy to reset the neck if needed.
This is LITERALLY the most boring video i have ever watched! Zero work done to see, just videos of the body over and over again. ffs!