Just curious, but have you read the Gundam Wing: Tiel's Impulse story? Wing Gundam Lucifer really should be on the list here because that thing is a nightmare and a half
Didn't miss anything that I don't know about but I have to question why didn't you talk about the Haros in Witch from Mercury that literally were strapped and had no problems killing people
I don't think any of them count. The automatons were just extensions of Ribbons and Veda. The bugs are some kind of funnel tech. And i think i heard somewhere that the Rafflessia and Iron Mask's mask were specifically made to control them. And the bio brains are literal human brains cloned and programmed to think and act a certain way.
As a kid, that Sandrock scene made me appreciate the Sandrock for selflessly sacrificing itself to let Quatre escape, also showing that unlike the other AC Gundams, only Quatre and Sandrock had a mutual connection to each other. And it hit more since I saw Wing before the Iron Giant.
Didn't Wufei also have a connection to Nataku? and Duo with Deathscythe? from what I remember from Wing (Not that much, I was half asleep for half of the show) only Heero gave no shits about his mobile suit.
A Haro with an advanced super AI based on an ace pilot with superhuman reaction speed and spatial awareness strapped to a cockpit equipped with a Zero System and the scariest and most versatile funnel-type weapon available for attack and defense available. How scary would that be? Okay then how about if the mobile suit looks like a windmill?
In Iron Blooded Orphan G game, there's a scene with another MA (Harael). At first, it focus its attack on Hajiroboshi, but then we have a glorious flashback from Harael's POV showing Hajiroboshi in its original form (Marchosias) beat a crap out of 2 Harael at once. The intersting part is that Harael seems to display fear upon recognized Marchosias (the sensor on its wire arm turns off after the flashback) which doesn't make sense (but incredibly cool). Since Vistario and co only fight Harael's wire arms (plus Pluma), I guess what's going on is that after recognized Marchosias and access the old memory, it just give up to preserve the main body (which is still trapped out of sight).
My working theory is that Mobile Armors have a Skynet system in place that create and command them. N, the person who started the Urdr Hunt, I believe is that system.
Crossbone Gundam had the Bio-Brains which are robot clones of the Jupiter Empire's president Crux Dogatie along with one unit based on the late Amuro Ray, meanwhile Gundam Build Divers Re:Rise had Alus, an A.I. created by an extinct human-like alien civilization of the planet Eldora who is pissed that his masters were replaced by furries who now became Eldora's new sapient species who were originally the planet's animals/fauna going through evolution and Alus wants to exterminate them because he hates furries? lol.
ALUS isn't entirely an AI from some of the expanded things, the old Eldorans evolved from biological to uploads to wander the universe. ALUS was left behind with restrictions to protect/safeguard Eldora from potential invaders...which the New People forced the situation leaving ALUS with no real choice there when combined with being left alone for who knows how long there. the epilogue and Build Divers Rize point to the El-Divers being Eldorans that got dragged into the G-Network. ALUS being reformed into an El-Diver shows that he's the same, meaning Cuadorn might be one as well with their connections broken when the planet was attacked and the theory that Eldora was abandoned due to being attacked and pretty much left in ruins with most forced to leave because, at the time, the planet was uninhabitable.
@@xx-qv9tp Yeah, while ALUS was out there it was more due to isolation and blocks that forced a path, once another became actually available ALUS took it and was reborn in the end.
Here's my head canon for why learning computers didn't catch on: The Learning Computer was one of several competing systems (for example, the EXAM) the Earth Federation was putting their focus into as an equivalent to Zeon's research into Newtypes. The idea was that the computer could help gravity-bound pilots fight in space where they were disadvantaged against the spacenoids. But once Newtypes emerged, it became obvious that these systems were not as good as the raw intuitive abilities of a Newtype and so after the war when Zeon and the Federation's top scientists merged, research moved towards 1) development of technology to enhance or unleash Newtype potential like the psycommu and eventually psycho frame, and 2) cyber Newtypes. Some side research, of course, continued into it, but it never got the focus of Newtype-oriented stuff.
In char deleted affair, federation fitted their GM with amuro combat data derived from learning computer, those GM even overwhelmed char in his gelgoog.
minovsky particles interfere with development of ai. to create something similar they had to create a bio computer literally organic brains in a jar (google translated images this way maybe this is not correct although creator of exam was a doctor by specialty and according to hints he was needed for maintenance which in my opinion is even more creepy I hope this a translation error).
Those mobile dolls are definitely some of the most terrifying weapons ever made. You could wipe out a whole army of them and nothing would change they would have more. Then they can destroy you. Imagine the 00 ending where all the kamakaze units are all just mobile dolls? The world would basically end so quickly with that power. Though that scene was already scary showing how disgusting the human lives would be with kamakaze tactics Best one is definitely ain. Goes from ain to ai and beats both the protagonist and antagonist of the series with ease. Joke btw.
That depends, you also have Gundam Aquarius that would eliminate Dolls with impunity. Of course, if you want a nightmare scenario, skip the basic Mobile Dolls and the disaster when Wing Gundam Lucifer hijacked them, because Lucifer is a heck of a lot worse and has an upgraded version of the Zero System built into it that's based off of the command version mixed with the original type...and Lucifer was full on psychotic.
There's a limit on how much mobile doll drones you can manufacture. And i don't think they're cheap, losing a bunch of them will surely be a setback for your military force. Besides, in mecha anime it's all about the skill of the pilots, the second episode of Getter Robot Armaggeddon is a good example of that, where Ryoma Nagare, on board of a 1st gen Getter Robot was cutting through an army of AI controlled Getter G, like an hot knife through butter, things got serious only when they combined into the Shin Dragon.
@@arx3516 Have them and the factory usurped by Wing Gundam Lucifer with it's screwy version of the Zero system and the end result becomes a lot worse there because the entire force basically becomes precognitive. One thing that I remember being mentioned elsewhere about the various build series that one of their people suggested combining the Lucifer with the Devil Gundam...which they were told that it was not a good idea and would not work well for a story because you just have an apocalypse there.
@ivanbluecool iirc drones are WAAAY cheaper to replace than human pilots and aircraft. You can replace machines on an assembly line but human resources are usually limited(in most settings at least...)
It’s also the case that proves a point of how bad automatic weapon systems are Trieze is a charismatic and thought provoking leader Tuborov is a manic, psychopathic, and obsessive narcissist Proven further with the subordinates and people around they have around them Trieze has THOUSANDS to maybe MILLIONS of loyal soldiers, engineers, etc Tuborov only has the rich non-military “nobles” in Romafeller Foundation and what subordinates he directs are either traitors in disguise (the guy that lead the theft of Libra for White Fang), crazy themselves (Trent), or are ultimately loyal more to Trieze and OZ then him or the Foundation
There are some small things shown in the original MSG that were smoothed over after Sunrise returned to the Universal Century for Zeta and beyond. One of them was a Lost in Space-esque robot that could be seen working as a child caretaker in Jaburo's school/daycare. Which, if you think about it, when HARO is as sophisticated as it is - for a toy - then surely more complicated AI-driven robots existing for other societal functions would be pretty normal. However, when we get to Zeta, life in the UC is much more styled directly on 80's Japan and the technology got a more gritty aesthetic that precludes the existence of Asimov-ish robots.
Would innovades be classified as ai? Seeing ais controlling flesh suits to learn to be human through resets sounds like a learning ai. They can switch bodies through equipments or veda like just transfering data.
Ohhhh, okay, that really clears things up with the original RS-78-2! See, for years, I thought it was Amuro controlling the Gundam via a remote on his suit in the final battle with Char, and not the Learning Computer taking control. Pretty damn impressive too that it had learned enough to have Amuro’s skills to the point of shooting down Char’s mobile head.
One confusing note about that last scene with the Gundam. I believe Amuro talks about that experience (fighting Char at the end of MSG) in Zeta or ZZ or something. He talks about that moment and there's a flashback iirc, but Amuro says that he programmed the Gundam to do what it did. However, I think that Kakarot's interpretation of that scene has roots in canon someplace as well, I'm just not as familiar with it. Either way, the Learning Computer was mentioned even in the flashback bit that I remember seeing, and it's understood that Amuro may have quickly activated some macros before exiting the Gundam, but the Learning Computer is what timed the final shot and accurately tracked the Zeong head.
I believe you missed the Automatons from the Second Season of 00, the small anti-personnel War Crime Drones used by the A-laws. Also, while I'm not sure about the specifics of the Crossbone series, would the Bio-Brins be considered AI? I know the ones inside the Divinidad were closer to straight up clones, but apparently the the one inside the Amakusa was created from the data stolen from Amuro's OYW Core Fighter which would suggest its an advancement of the RX-78's Learning Computer.
Fun fact: in SRW AI controlled mobile suits are almost ubiquitous, i guess it's just an escamotage to allow characters from kid friendly series to shoot 'em down without any moral repercussion.
I'd lump them in with bits, funnels, FANGs, DRAGOONs, and so on. Iron Mask had kind of cyborg'ed himself up, and my assumption is with Rafflesia being a massive e-warfare carrier first and fighter second, he was parallel-processing and "piloting" several Bugs at the same time. Automated for sure, but on a slightly different scale than the AIs presented here.
A small addition I’d argue to put on the list is the actual Gundams from IBO. On multiple occasions they seemed to respond to the pilots from verbal commands and even made responses. The pilots even talked to them on a multitude of occasions. Would make sense to fight horrible AI MAs with AI assisted MS.
It is most likely react to pilot via Alaya-Vijnana System. In Iron Blooded Orphan G, Asmoday doesn't remove its limiter during the fight against Harael because its cockpit is replaced with Enzo's. Now, Hajiroboshi is an oddball since it doesn't use Alaya-Vijnana either, but showing highly automate function (such as blocking a surprise attack that Vistario didn't see coming) but sometime not responding to its pilot. It alsoremove limiter during the fight with Harael (Marchosias mode). But the story is far from over.
@@KuruniXDYea, Marchosias/ Hajiroboshi is a weird one but I suspect it does carry an on-board AI. The thing with the Hajiroboshi is that is was rather Extensively refitted and deviates pretty significantly from its original Marchosias layout, so the integrated AI is most likely a later addition, probably to keep the frame's performance without turning pilots into vegetables.
8:24 UNLESS you pilot the Gundam Lucifer An all gray variant of Wing Zero equipped with Zero System 2.0 A system that straight 6forves you to fo whatever the mobile suit dictates. No ifs, ands, or buts. Your only daving grace is to be forcibly removed from the cockpit snd rehabilitated in a mental facility
@@bramastoprasojo2843 that should be the case with the description given by the Unicorn's "Unchained Mode", where the NT-D system takes full control of the Gundam to fulfill its Newtype destroying purposes, using the pilot like a processor
Like Mobile Dolls, it's a weird line between personalities like Hachi, Alus, Haros (they show empathy or assessment of feelings and temperature, if not being very bright or motivated) and mobile dolls, Devil Gundam, and so on. You can talk to a Haro, ALICE, or Hachi. Can't really talk to the DG or Mobile Doll army, except perhaps by them relaying AV feeds to humans who send a "cease-fire" signal or not.
I feel like Veda deserved more of a highlight. Quantum supercomputer that can make accurate predictions centuries ahead of time, and it's reduced to a short line, lol.
Red Rider from Mobile suit Gundam Agressor also had A.I it actually goes from Computer command to Lite version ALICE and its kinda funny that the Main Character, Chase Skullguard get annoyed by the A.I
Idk if this applied to all G Generation games but in Portable, I love how the Zero System influenced the pilot's morale bar, giving it a longer "Low" portion, nerfing the pilot a bit, but it skips "Normal" morale and straight to "High"
In cross rays it increases the tension bar so you start in timid but much more quickly get into high, unless you have tenacious at which point it keeps the original bar but instead of activating the buffs from the zero system at super high it’s now activated on high.
Huh, the ones form Iron Blooded Orphans remind me heavily of the Metal Devils from the Horizon series, they function the same. They gather resources for fuel and to produce more of their armies.
I'm surprised that A.I hasn't been featured more in Gundam especially the dehumanizing of war aspect turning war into a game of statistic not caring for the civilians that get caught in the crossfire.
1. Thank god someone knows about the badass Raven from the super underrated G Savior video game 2. I love how they referred to Alice as she/her. She is such an underrated character
In my school vr game, there's been 2 new Ai mobile bosses (even though they are not ai controlled, but theres rements of ai so it counts) those being Ibis and Ayre (in the ultra hunt missions but its Allmind Igrazus as the boss as Goalius)
"We don't know a lot about IBO's Mobile Armors." Yeah exactly why I never finished IBO, I always thought S2 would be about the Calamity War but then they decided to pointless current-day politicking stuff. IBO is like Lord of the Rings where you had this great setup and intro about the past with the One Ring and Last Alliance of Elves and Men but after movie Galadriel's narration about the ring disappearing from history and "Legend turning into myth" we got a full movie trilogy about Hobbits running for mayor or something.
First use of AI Hero piloting a Fundamental would be in Victory. Weren't there also mobile doll like suits in X that were first controlled by New types but then one faction automated the process to work without a Newtype?
what about the AI controlling Noris Packard's Gouf Custom from MS 8th Team? that tibit came from nowhere and was only seen in one episode of the entire series, Noris declares his death march to Aina and sorties out of the base, simply calling out to the AI, and the thing marches out beside him.
Maybe not an A.I. but more along a command sequence input. I'm sure most mobile suits are programmed to recognize certain voice inputs and react to them, but they don't learn. Those commands are just routine things they go through.
@@andrewowens4421 iirc this was a bleeding-edge 90s tech homage that hasn't aged as well. Voice-activated technology was very popular for a while in pop sci-fi, and real-life simple voice commands were being used in a lot of tech from the 90s to the end of the 00s that either inspired anime or was inspired by it. I believe this is why we only see it used once and it doesn't have any real meaning, it's just supposed to be a cool flex like self-parking cars are nowadays.
I don't think the EXAM is ai controlled since that uses a soul of a newtype of one Marion Welch. Apparently using the system inflicts great pain to Marion which in turn would heavily affect the EXAM leading it to spontaneously activate and control the mobile suit installed with it. So it may be ai but if anything but imo it's Marion subconsciously lashing out when someone uses the EXAM system.
Fantastic idea for a video this concept has always really interested me. I thank you as a fellow gundam fan for making such high quality content so consistently, I love your videos so much I get sad when theyre ending bro.
In the 8th Mobile Suit Team, Norris Packard was able to give voice commands to his Gouf Custom that had it walk itself to the elevator as he prepared to sortie against the Guntanks.
I'd argue the bit mobile suits from Gundam X using the flash system had AI in them, or at least the system did. Too much movement and other functions to not be offloaded like balancing out firing that many satellite cannons while muti-targeting for example. I mean, we're talking about simultaneously controlling up to 12 FX-9900 GX-Bits at one point in the series that is the same size as a Gundam X.
Very evident for the bits Dome had, was about to say but yeah should be mostly AI and what they are is glorified funnels but each have a satellite cannon and are able to sustain itself
Mobile Dolls used to scare me when I was a kid while I'm watching Toonami But they have a weakness like if the opponent manage to reprogram the machines to turn against them
I wonder if every mobile suit has some kind of very basic AI, it would explain how pilots get them to do all that they do, the computer enables that degree of control.
This is a *really* deep-cut asspull, but the RX-78EX-PH-1 Zephyr Gundam was the *first* mobile suit in the UC to be fully controlled by AI. Not much is known about it because it's barely appeared in anything, but I feel it should be mentioned anyways
Turn A Gundam and Turn X both seem to have AI. Turn A's AI seemed to awaken when it detected a Mobile Suit and moved to defend it. Turn X's activated after it seemed to detect Turn A.
Tactical VI is one thing but full-on operational AI for military roles with no means of security to keep it in check is like giving HK-47 a chainsaw and a bunch of fat people
The AI DOLL system was absolutely terrifying. They managed to get some information on Duo Maxwell’s combat tactics and the DOLL unit startled Heero. What is scarier is that they modified the AI DOLL system to work in tandem with an Operator who was hooked up to a alternate helmet display version of the ZERO System. It showed the Operator a series of options via a the helmet interface to remotely control the DOLLs and it didn’t drive the human operator insane.
That honestly was the single most frightening tech development in that timeline. The option to put entire armies worth of MS under the sole control of a single person? That's horrifying. That has the potential to prop up a Tyrant in the worst possible way. Plus, ultimately, borderline precognition on a single suit has much lower limits of impact on battles and wars than entire armies backed by such capability.
@@Sorain1the whole thing is nightmare fuel Heck the fact that in the Glory of Loser manga version of Dorothy’s helmet usage was made even MORE darker: Since she straight up put Relena into a Damned if you Do or Damned if you Don’t scenario “Shoot me with the gun I place on this table, or don’t and I continue to control and kill people with my Mobile Doll army.” And this is full on pacifist Relena and she STILL almost did it, if not for Hilda grabbing her arm and having her fire elsewhere That’s right total pacifist Relena nearly SHOT DOROTHY IN THE HEAD
But, AI can be dumb. Like how one was used to scan the Declaration of Independence and other documents and made the conclusion that they've been made by AI.
The Mobile Dolls are terrifying... They have faster reaction and coordination timing than the best human soldier can do... The most dangerous of them are the White Fang Mobile Dolls... Even the Heroes of Gundam Wing were overwhelmed by them...
Hey man I have been watching a lot of your videos to learn the tech and abilities of ms for the gb4 game so thanks for making all these videos. I have a question though, is the helm screen you use to represent your self a jesta helm? Or is it the pale rider using its Hades system? The pic looks awesome I just cant identify it and it's been bugging me for weeks.
Cool video! I think AI has to play a huge role in hoe a mobile suit functions. Even down to the first mobile workers. Tou need some sort of smart adaptive program to tell the mobile suit how to step and move and adapt its feet and weight distribution to the terrain. What about the G bits from Gundam X? I know AI and Newtype shenanigans are pretty hard to distinguish. It's a big topic! Anyway, keep up the good work!
Mobile Armors from IBO series are literally nightmare fuel because of their speed, strength, durability, and precision AIs, and the only way to combat them is with the 72 purpose-built gundam frames. As seen in the series, normal/mass produced mobile suits would never be able to beat a single mobile armor.
I think it's less about other suits not being capable of doing so (a lot of the more current-date suits probably could manage it, if enough of them ganged up on the AI) the Gundams just have a far easier time of it, since they have a far more responsive control-interface and literally pack twice the energy output. Give a bunch of grunts A-V style interfaces or Hajiroboshi type AI support and they'd probably make for a very competent MA execution squad.
Good job calling out the cid mobile suit and EXA-DB AI but for gundam age I also think the AGE system in general has to have some kind of AI or learning system incorporated into it otherwise how else would it collect and process the data from battles in order to manufacture the different parts, MS, etc. in fact in the video game (for psp) and I think also the manga the AGE system even seems to make on the fly recommendations to the pilot like how the first improvised sort of fan like weapon was used by Flit
16:22 schwarzette with GM-like face is superior in looks imo if only they made two instead of one, for a what-if scenario of tech demo and comparison between AI and gund, it wouldn't be lost forever due to permet disintegration yea I'm biased because I love GMs lol
@@trollinoakenshield9822 AI does exist in Build Divers, but Id say the focus there is mostly just the online game they all play, with the AI being treated more or less like "local citizens". Was thinking more along the lines of having a show that delves into how much people depend on the AI, how their use and evolution affects our society, the growth of individuals' person, and the factions that would spawn in world where said AI are prominent everywhere, along with other stuff like that.
Just remember this. Gundam Exa manga has a big twist that... . . . . . . There is exactly one human in the whole series, everyone else are AI in the General Answer. They're so sophisticated that they aren't aware that they're AI and few of them even act beyond their original purpose (Fon Spaak and Hanayo). There is slso an irony that the onlt human, Sthesia, thought she is AI at the start of the story.
It's funny you mention the Sid mobile armor inspired the IBO mobile armors because in a DLC for one of the SD games there is said to be a connection between the two...though that could just be a mistranslation...
I feel like the Bugs from Gundam F91 were probably intended to count. They were autonomous, supposedly self-replicating, automated killing machines. While quite dumb, they were very effective.
Out of all the ai mobile suits the gundam wing OZ - 02md Virgo is a monster The OZ - 12 SMS TARURUS is my pick it just the best all rounder flight capable and multi use
I thought the Forbidden Gundam was neat because in high speed mode it almost looked like a Mobile Armor giving the reason the GUNDAM is forbidden, because it allowed for some advanced AI stuff or something
A few things: I think all of the gundams in Wing were programmed at least with the Alice system, since the pilots did end up talking to them quite a few times like they were humans, and could perform basic autonomous functions. That being said, I don't think it was clear what all they could do and it was mainly used as a plot device it seemed. The RX-78F00 also has a bit where the gundam itself seems to be talking to Amuro, but I wasn't really able to understand what was being said (because my japanese is rubbish). That is more non-canon though.
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Just curious, but have you read the Gundam Wing: Tiel's Impulse story? Wing Gundam Lucifer really should be on the list here because that thing is a nightmare and a half
Does the Norris Gouf custom count? As he would call for it and it would walk beside him.
Didn't miss anything that I don't know about but I have to question why didn't you talk about the Haros in Witch from Mercury that literally were strapped and had no problems killing people
you missed alus
Veda
One AI you missed were the automatons from 00. Sure they weren't connected to any mobile suits, but man were they deadly.
I don't think he mentioned the Bugs from F91 either. Nor the MS in Crossbone that's controlled by an AI duplicate of Amuro Ray's pilot data.
@@gundamkaizer6947I believe that was a Bio-Brain. Kinda blurs the line between AI and biological componant.
Also Hanayo & Teire Arde AI form.
@@zeroskillz90so technically Bio-mech cyborgs? Technically it also include as an AI but with a bits of brain parts included 😊
I don't think any of them count. The automatons were just extensions of Ribbons and Veda. The bugs are some kind of funnel tech. And i think i heard somewhere that the Rafflessia and Iron Mask's mask were specifically made to control them. And the bio brains are literal human brains cloned and programmed to think and act a certain way.
As a kid, that Sandrock scene made me appreciate the Sandrock for selflessly sacrificing itself to let Quatre escape, also showing that unlike the other AC Gundams, only Quatre and Sandrock had a mutual connection to each other. And it hit more since I saw Wing before the Iron Giant.
Didn't Wufei also have a connection to Nataku? and Duo with Deathscythe? from what I remember from Wing (Not that much, I was half asleep for half of the show) only Heero gave no shits about his mobile suit.
A Haro with an advanced super AI based on an ace pilot with superhuman reaction speed and spatial awareness strapped to a cockpit equipped with a Zero System and the scariest and most versatile funnel-type weapon available for attack and defense available. How scary would that be? Okay then how about if the mobile suit looks like a windmill?
So Hanayo in an 00 Qan’t with the zero system?
You're a mad man. I like it lol
So the zabanya?
In Iron Blooded Orphan G game, there's a scene with another MA (Harael). At first, it focus its attack on Hajiroboshi, but then we have a glorious flashback from Harael's POV showing Hajiroboshi in its original form (Marchosias) beat a crap out of 2 Harael at once. The intersting part is that Harael seems to display fear upon recognized Marchosias (the sensor on its wire arm turns off after the flashback) which doesn't make sense (but incredibly cool). Since Vistario and co only fight Harael's wire arms (plus Pluma), I guess what's going on is that after recognized Marchosias and access the old memory, it just give up to preserve the main body (which is still trapped out of sight).
My working theory is that Mobile Armors have a Skynet system in place that create and command them. N, the person who started the Urdr Hunt, I believe is that system.
That MA got PTSD
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When you put the fear of god into a godless machine.
@@akhdannaufaldy1693it got beaten up so badly, it has flashbacks now 🤣
It is not entirely illogical to react with aversion to something you know can put in the ground.
Crossbone Gundam had the Bio-Brains which are robot clones of the Jupiter Empire's president Crux Dogatie along with one unit based on the late Amuro Ray, meanwhile Gundam Build Divers Re:Rise had Alus, an A.I. created by an extinct human-like alien civilization of the planet Eldora who is pissed that his masters were replaced by furries who now became Eldora's new sapient species who were originally the planet's animals/fauna going through evolution and Alus wants to exterminate them because he hates furries? lol.
Alus seems kinda based ngl
ALUS isn't entirely an AI from some of the expanded things, the old Eldorans evolved from biological to uploads to wander the universe.
ALUS was left behind with restrictions to protect/safeguard Eldora from potential invaders...which the New People forced the situation leaving ALUS with no real choice there when combined with being left alone for who knows how long there. the epilogue and Build Divers Rize point to the El-Divers being Eldorans that got dragged into the G-Network.
ALUS being reformed into an El-Diver shows that he's the same, meaning Cuadorn might be one as well with their connections broken when the planet was attacked and the theory that Eldora was abandoned due to being attacked and pretty much left in ruins with most forced to leave because, at the time, the planet was uninhabitable.
Not gonna lie, I’m on Team Alus lol
@@xx-qv9tp Yeah, while ALUS was out there it was more due to isolation and blocks that forced a path, once another became actually available ALUS took it and was reborn in the end.
Honestly, the various Build series need an entire set of videos dedicated to breaking down their...
Uniqueness...
I'm positive. This guy has acquired abilities of the Dark Gundam
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Here's my head canon for why learning computers didn't catch on: The Learning Computer was one of several competing systems (for example, the EXAM) the Earth Federation was putting their focus into as an equivalent to Zeon's research into Newtypes. The idea was that the computer could help gravity-bound pilots fight in space where they were disadvantaged against the spacenoids. But once Newtypes emerged, it became obvious that these systems were not as good as the raw intuitive abilities of a Newtype and so after the war when Zeon and the Federation's top scientists merged, research moved towards 1) development of technology to enhance or unleash Newtype potential like the psycommu and eventually psycho frame, and 2) cyber Newtypes. Some side research, of course, continued into it, but it never got the focus of Newtype-oriented stuff.
In char deleted affair, federation fitted their GM with amuro combat data derived from learning computer, those GM even overwhelmed char in his gelgoog.
Cool theory! I'm inclined to agree
minovsky particles interfere with development of ai. to create something similar they had to create a bio computer literally organic brains in a jar (google translated images this way maybe this is not correct although creator of exam was a doctor by specialty and according to hints he was needed for maintenance which in my opinion is even more creepy I hope this a translation error).
Those mobile dolls are definitely some of the most terrifying weapons ever made. You could wipe out a whole army of them and nothing would change they would have more. Then they can destroy you.
Imagine the 00 ending where all the kamakaze units are all just mobile dolls? The world would basically end so quickly with that power. Though that scene was already scary showing how disgusting the human lives would be with kamakaze tactics
Best one is definitely ain. Goes from ain to ai and beats both the protagonist and antagonist of the series with ease. Joke btw.
That depends, you also have Gundam Aquarius that would eliminate Dolls with impunity.
Of course, if you want a nightmare scenario, skip the basic Mobile Dolls and the disaster when Wing Gundam Lucifer hijacked them, because Lucifer is a heck of a lot worse and has an upgraded version of the Zero System built into it that's based off of the command version mixed with the original type...and Lucifer was full on psychotic.
There's a limit on how much mobile doll drones you can manufacture. And i don't think they're cheap, losing a bunch of them will surely be a setback for your military force. Besides, in mecha anime it's all about the skill of the pilots, the second episode of Getter Robot Armaggeddon is a good example of that, where Ryoma Nagare, on board of a 1st gen Getter Robot was cutting through an army of AI controlled Getter G, like an hot knife through butter, things got serious only when they combined into the Shin Dragon.
@@arx3516 taking out living pilots would probably be a much bigger loss to your foes. You'd be in debt. They'll be in dead
@@arx3516 Have them and the factory usurped by Wing Gundam Lucifer with it's screwy version of the Zero system and the end result becomes a lot worse there because the entire force basically becomes precognitive.
One thing that I remember being mentioned elsewhere about the various build series that one of their people suggested combining the Lucifer with the Devil Gundam...which they were told that it was not a good idea and would not work well for a story because you just have an apocalypse there.
@ivanbluecool iirc drones are WAAAY cheaper to replace than human pilots and aircraft. You can replace machines on an assembly line but human resources are usually limited(in most settings at least...)
I love the introduction of the mobile dolls cause they hyped them for ten seconds before Trieze RUINED them with a single Leo and a well spoken speech
It’s also the case that proves a point of how bad automatic weapon systems are
Trieze is a charismatic and thought provoking leader
Tuborov is a manic, psychopathic, and obsessive narcissist
Proven further with the subordinates and people around they have around them
Trieze has THOUSANDS to maybe MILLIONS of loyal soldiers, engineers, etc
Tuborov only has the rich non-military “nobles” in Romafeller Foundation and what subordinates he directs are either traitors in disguise (the guy that lead the theft of Libra for White Fang), crazy themselves (Trent), or are ultimately loyal more to Trieze and OZ then him or the Foundation
Military and Ai never seem to go well in fiction. Great video
There are some small things shown in the original MSG that were smoothed over after Sunrise returned to the Universal Century for Zeta and beyond. One of them was a Lost in Space-esque robot that could be seen working as a child caretaker in Jaburo's school/daycare. Which, if you think about it, when HARO is as sophisticated as it is - for a toy - then surely more complicated AI-driven robots existing for other societal functions would be pretty normal. However, when we get to Zeta, life in the UC is much more styled directly on 80's Japan and the technology got a more gritty aesthetic that precludes the existence of Asimov-ish robots.
Half the time the ai is just a human soul
Would innovades be classified as ai? Seeing ais controlling flesh suits to learn to be human through resets sounds like a learning ai. They can switch bodies through equipments or veda like just transfering data.
Actually innovades are cyborg clones. They only gain their technomancy powers because of their connection to VEDA.
I feel like they’re closer to cyborgs or androids, before pure ai
I’d say they’re moreso just modified humans rather than an AI in a human body
We hear their emotions can go out of control so they are just better humans
Honestly, they sound and act/operate more like human form cylons from Battlestar Galactica imo.
Ohhhh, okay, that really clears things up with the original RS-78-2! See, for years, I thought it was Amuro controlling the Gundam via a remote on his suit in the final battle with Char, and not the Learning Computer taking control. Pretty damn impressive too that it had learned enough to have Amuro’s skills to the point of shooting down Char’s mobile head.
One confusing note about that last scene with the Gundam. I believe Amuro talks about that experience (fighting Char at the end of MSG) in Zeta or ZZ or something. He talks about that moment and there's a flashback iirc, but Amuro says that he programmed the Gundam to do what it did.
However, I think that Kakarot's interpretation of that scene has roots in canon someplace as well, I'm just not as familiar with it. Either way, the Learning Computer was mentioned even in the flashback bit that I remember seeing, and it's understood that Amuro may have quickly activated some macros before exiting the Gundam, but the Learning Computer is what timed the final shot and accurately tracked the Zeong head.
I believe you missed the Automatons from the Second Season of 00, the small anti-personnel War Crime Drones used by the A-laws.
Also, while I'm not sure about the specifics of the Crossbone series, would the Bio-Brins be considered AI? I know the ones inside the Divinidad were closer to straight up clones, but apparently the the one inside the Amakusa was created from the data stolen from Amuro's OYW Core Fighter which would suggest its an advancement of the RX-78's Learning Computer.
2:08 man, I love that War in the Pocket OST. It just sounds so sleek and perfectly 80's.
Fun fact: in SRW AI controlled mobile suits are almost ubiquitous, i guess it's just an escamotage to allow characters from kid friendly series to shoot 'em down without any moral repercussion.
What about the Bugs from Gundam F91? They were, admittedly, very basic, but I'd count them as AI weapons.
I'd lump them in with bits, funnels, FANGs, DRAGOONs, and so on.
Iron Mask had kind of cyborg'ed himself up, and my assumption is with Rafflesia being a massive e-warfare carrier first and fighter second, he was parallel-processing and "piloting" several Bugs at the same time. Automated for sure, but on a slightly different scale than the AIs presented here.
A small addition I’d argue to put on the list is the actual Gundams from IBO. On multiple occasions they seemed to respond to the pilots from verbal commands and even made responses. The pilots even talked to them on a multitude of occasions. Would make sense to fight horrible AI MAs with AI assisted MS.
It is most likely react to pilot via Alaya-Vijnana System. In Iron Blooded Orphan G, Asmoday doesn't remove its limiter during the fight against Harael because its cockpit is replaced with Enzo's.
Now, Hajiroboshi is an oddball since it doesn't use Alaya-Vijnana either, but showing highly automate function (such as blocking a surprise attack that Vistario didn't see coming) but sometime not responding to its pilot. It alsoremove limiter during the fight with Harael (Marchosias mode). But the story is far from over.
Like how Barbatos responded to Mika's words
@@KuruniXDYea, Marchosias/ Hajiroboshi is a weird one but I suspect it does carry an on-board AI. The thing with the Hajiroboshi is that is was rather Extensively refitted and deviates pretty significantly from its original Marchosias layout, so the integrated AI is most likely a later addition, probably to keep the frame's performance without turning pilots into vegetables.
8:24 UNLESS you pilot the Gundam Lucifer
An all gray variant of Wing Zero equipped with Zero System 2.0
A system that straight 6forves you to fo whatever the mobile suit dictates. No ifs, ands, or buts. Your only daving grace is to be forcibly removed from the cockpit snd rehabilitated in a mental facility
Guess in divers the ai turning human would technically count.
Mobile dolls. Mobile armors those are just demons in terms of destruction
The NT-D is probably an AI too. It does essentially use the pilot as a processor while it hunts down Newtypes.
Not necessarily. Just following a set objective programmed into it. No need to give it the capacity of thinking beyond that.
Doubt it has any actual intelligence but probably more like our current AIs just rather efficient and quick programs.
@@bramastoprasojo2843 that should be the case with the description given by the Unicorn's "Unchained Mode", where the NT-D system takes full control of the Gundam to fulfill its Newtype destroying purposes, using the pilot like a processor
Like Mobile Dolls, it's a weird line between personalities like Hachi, Alus, Haros (they show empathy or assessment of feelings and temperature, if not being very bright or motivated) and mobile dolls, Devil Gundam, and so on.
You can talk to a Haro, ALICE, or Hachi.
Can't really talk to the DG or Mobile Doll army, except perhaps by them relaying AV feeds to humans who send a "cease-fire" signal or not.
One AI you completely missed were the Unicorn Gundam as it can transform itself during a battle
Honorable Mentions:
1.NT-D
2.HADES,ARES,THEMIS,ZEUS
3.The Moon Satelite a.k.a "The First New Type" from the Gundam X
I read this title as “AL in Gundam” and I was ready for a rant about our least favorite pyschopath from Gundam 00
Which is worse fighting an army of AI or being trapped in le computer/machine?
"AI that let you PRETEND to be an artist" you dropped this 👑. be careful next time.
I feel like Veda deserved more of a highlight. Quantum supercomputer that can make accurate predictions centuries ahead of time, and it's reduced to a short line, lol.
Red Rider from Mobile suit Gundam Agressor also had A.I
it actually goes from Computer command to Lite version ALICE and its kinda funny that the Main Character, Chase Skullguard get annoyed by the A.I
Surprised we never got a definitive answer whether the Wing Zero was sentient.
Idk if this applied to all G Generation games but in Portable, I love how the Zero System influenced the pilot's morale bar, giving it a longer "Low" portion, nerfing the pilot a bit, but it skips "Normal" morale and straight to "High"
In cross rays it increases the tension bar so you start in timid but much more quickly get into high, unless you have tenacious at which point it keeps the original bar but instead of activating the buffs from the zero system at super high it’s now activated on high.
Huh, the ones form Iron Blooded Orphans remind me heavily of the Metal Devils from the Horizon series, they function the same. They gather resources for fuel and to produce more of their armies.
Never really a good idea
well, now I wonder where something like D.O.M.E and the Gundam Bits fall in the Gundam X universe.
Probably still organic since it was made from a human brain.
D.O.M.E. is kinda like how Ein got built into Gaelio's suits and the Gundam bits are just very complex funnels.
I'm surprised that A.I hasn't been featured more in Gundam especially the dehumanizing of war aspect turning war into a game of statistic not caring for the civilians that get caught in the crossfire.
Nineball in question:
1. Thank god someone knows about the badass Raven from the super underrated G Savior video game
2. I love how they referred to Alice as she/her. She is such an underrated character
In my school vr game, there's been 2 new Ai mobile bosses (even though they are not ai controlled, but theres rements of ai so it counts) those being Ibis and Ayre (in the ultra hunt missions but its Allmind Igrazus as the boss as Goalius)
In double 00 they also used an AI to interpretate an blurry image of celestial beings main ship in season 1
As someone who grew up playing armored core I can only tell you it will only go horribly wrong
In Seed Astray there is also the Astray Turn Red which is completely controlled by an AI developed from 8.
10:13 DI Adagas*
I love the G-Saviour designs and the G-Saviour Gundam.
Edit: It’s still a shame we haven’t had a Calamity War OVA or series from IBO.
"We don't know a lot about IBO's Mobile Armors."
Yeah exactly why I never finished IBO, I always thought S2 would be about the Calamity War but then they decided to pointless current-day politicking stuff.
IBO is like Lord of the Rings where you had this great setup and intro about the past with the One Ring and Last Alliance of Elves and Men but after movie Galadriel's narration about the ring disappearing from history and "Legend turning into myth" we got a full movie trilogy about Hobbits running for mayor or something.
I love when Kakarot posts
First use of AI Hero piloting a Fundamental would be in Victory.
Weren't there also mobile doll like suits in X that were first controlled by New types but then one faction automated the process to work without a Newtype?
what about the AI controlling Noris Packard's Gouf Custom from MS 8th Team?
that tibit came from nowhere and was only seen in one episode of the entire series, Noris declares his death march to Aina and sorties out of the base, simply calling out to the AI, and the thing marches out beside him.
Maybe not an A.I. but more along a command sequence input. I'm sure most mobile suits are programmed to recognize certain voice inputs and react to them, but they don't learn. Those commands are just routine things they go through.
@@andrewowens4421 iirc this was a bleeding-edge 90s tech homage that hasn't aged as well. Voice-activated technology was very popular for a while in pop sci-fi, and real-life simple voice commands were being used in a lot of tech from the 90s to the end of the 00s that either inspired anime or was inspired by it. I believe this is why we only see it used once and it doesn't have any real meaning, it's just supposed to be a cool flex like self-parking cars are nowadays.
That was a dub only thing. The technician is the pilot
The EXAM system on the Blue Destiny Units is another example of A.I. developed by the Earth Federation. Yu kajima was the pilot behind the Blue GM.
I don't think the EXAM is ai controlled since that uses a soul of a newtype of one Marion Welch. Apparently using the system inflicts great pain to Marion which in turn would heavily affect the EXAM leading it to spontaneously activate and control the mobile suit installed with it. So it may be ai but if anything but imo it's Marion subconsciously lashing out when someone uses the EXAM system.
Fantastic idea for a video this concept has always really interested me. I thank you as a fellow gundam fan for making such high quality content so consistently, I love your videos so much I get sad when theyre ending bro.
AIs that know what Pot of Greed does?! Lies! Lies! Lies! Lies! Lies!
What about the MW Rai from G Savior. They were essentially the UC equivalent of the AC Mobile Dolls?
In the 8th Mobile Suit Team, Norris Packard was able to give voice commands to his Gouf Custom that had it walk itself to the elevator as he prepared to sortie against the Guntanks.
I'd argue the bit mobile suits from Gundam X using the flash system had AI in them, or at least the system did. Too much movement and other functions to not be offloaded like balancing out firing that many satellite cannons while muti-targeting for example. I mean, we're talking about simultaneously controlling up to 12 FX-9900 GX-Bits at one point in the series that is the same size as a Gundam X.
Very evident for the bits Dome had, was about to say but yeah should be mostly AI and what they are is glorified funnels but each have a satellite cannon and are able to sustain itself
Mobile Dolls used to scare me when I was a kid while I'm watching Toonami
But they have a weakness like if the opponent manage to reprogram the machines to turn against them
I wonder if every mobile suit has some kind of very basic AI, it would explain how pilots get them to do all that they do, the computer enables that degree of control.
This is a *really* deep-cut asspull, but the RX-78EX-PH-1 Zephyr Gundam was the *first* mobile suit in the UC to be fully controlled by AI. Not much is known about it because it's barely appeared in anything, but I feel it should be mentioned anyways
Gundam Seed Astray series has a pair of AI controlled Hyperion G MS that were supposedly based on 8. Basicly AI wingmen for the baddie.
And now I like the Destiny Impulse even more.
Best Girls: ALICE & Gundam Meister 874/Hanayo
Best Buds: 8/Hachi & Lockon's Haro
Wing hit in America when I was in 4th grade. At the time I was too young to get why they're so despised, but now I know...now I know...
So, I guess we're just going to ignore Superior Defender Gundam.
Yes
Missed opportunity to have used the Bandai RX-78 Gundam computer instead of that IBM 5100.
Well, i was thinking that my gundam was a giant alien robot who called gundtronian.
“AI let you pretend to be an artist” well done haha
Turn A Gundam and Turn X both seem to have AI.
Turn A's AI seemed to awaken when it detected a Mobile Suit and moved to defend it.
Turn X's activated after it seemed to detect Turn A.
Haro: "O RAISER, DOCKING MODE! O RAISER, DOCKING MODE!"
Ai generated comment: Hail Cobra!.... Error go Zeon! Lol
05:58 - 06:01 *Cue The Terminator main theme*
Tactical VI is one thing but full-on operational AI for military roles with no means of security to keep it in check is like giving HK-47 a chainsaw and a bunch of fat people
I don't care if the AI will go wrong I WILL have my AI-assisted super mode
11:05 bruh the captions did Hachi/Eight dirty
A Haro army, is something I never thought I needed to know existed...
The AI DOLL system was absolutely terrifying. They managed to get some information on Duo Maxwell’s combat tactics and the DOLL unit startled Heero. What is scarier is that they modified the AI DOLL system to work in tandem with an Operator who was hooked up to a alternate helmet display version of the ZERO System. It showed the Operator a series of options via a the helmet interface to remotely control the DOLLs and it didn’t drive the human operator insane.
That honestly was the single most frightening tech development in that timeline. The option to put entire armies worth of MS under the sole control of a single person? That's horrifying. That has the potential to prop up a Tyrant in the worst possible way. Plus, ultimately, borderline precognition on a single suit has much lower limits of impact on battles and wars than entire armies backed by such capability.
@@Sorain1the whole thing is nightmare fuel
Heck the fact that in the Glory of Loser manga version of Dorothy’s helmet usage was made even MORE darker:
Since she straight up put Relena into a Damned if you Do or Damned if you Don’t scenario
“Shoot me with the gun I place on this table, or don’t and I continue to control and kill people with my Mobile Doll army.”
And this is full on pacifist Relena and she STILL almost did it, if not for Hilda grabbing her arm and having her fire elsewhere
That’s right total pacifist Relena nearly SHOT DOROTHY IN THE HEAD
But, AI can be dumb. Like how one was used to scan the Declaration of Independence and other documents and made the conclusion that they've been made by AI.
The Mobile Dolls are terrifying...
They have faster reaction and coordination timing than the best human soldier can do...
The most dangerous of them are the White Fang Mobile Dolls...
Even the Heroes of Gundam Wing were overwhelmed by them...
Shouts out to Uso's Haro that rescued him with Flanders. Uso's Haro also assisted in piloting the V2.
Sweet, waking up to a Kakarot lore vid! sipping coffee while listening to lore is a good way to start the day. Also, Amakusa where!
The Bugs from F-91 are AI controlled shredder against human targets.
00 Also had the backup AI that Chris and Feldt slapped together when Sumeragi suspected Veda was compromised.
Hey man I have been watching a lot of your videos to learn the tech and abilities of ms for the gb4 game so thanks for making all these videos. I have a question though, is the helm screen you use to represent your self a jesta helm? Or is it the pale rider using its Hades system? The pic looks awesome I just cant identify it and it's been bugging me for weeks.
@@stevengoyer5287 it's the GM Sniper K9 with the EXAM System activating
@@kakarot197 thanks for letting me know, I don't know why it bothered me so much lol. It is awesome though.
The way you described 8 (Hachi) he's pretty much well.... KITT of Knight Rider as he really is the AI of the car, not the car itself.
Cool video! I think AI has to play a huge role in hoe a mobile suit functions. Even down to the first mobile workers. Tou need some sort of smart adaptive program to tell the mobile suit how to step and move and adapt its feet and weight distribution to the terrain. What about the G bits from Gundam X?
I know AI and Newtype shenanigans are pretty hard to distinguish.
It's a big topic! Anyway, keep up the good work!
Mobile Armors from IBO series are literally nightmare fuel because of their speed, strength, durability, and precision AIs, and the only way to combat them is with the 72 purpose-built gundam frames. As seen in the series, normal/mass produced mobile suits would never be able to beat a single mobile armor.
I think it's less about other suits not being capable of doing so (a lot of the more current-date suits probably could manage it, if enough of them ganged up on the AI) the Gundams just have a far easier time of it, since they have a far more responsive control-interface and literally pack twice the energy output. Give a bunch of grunts A-V style interfaces or Hajiroboshi type AI support and they'd probably make for a very competent MA execution squad.
Red Rider from Gundam Aggressor has the ARES system (and the Eris subsystem) and it was a surprisingly cordial and sometimes even sassy AI unit
Good job calling out the cid mobile suit and EXA-DB AI but for gundam age I also think the AGE system in general has to have some kind of AI or learning system incorporated into it otherwise how else would it collect and process the data from battles in order to manufacture the different parts, MS, etc. in fact in the video game (for psp) and I think also the manga the AGE system even seems to make on the fly recommendations to the pilot like how the first improvised sort of fan like weapon was used by Flit
is there any news on metaverse yet?
16:22 schwarzette with GM-like face is superior in looks imo
if only they made two instead of one, for a what-if scenario of tech demo and comparison between AI and gund, it wouldn't be lost forever due to permet disintegration
yea I'm biased because I love GMs lol
It really would be the perfect time to get an AI centric Gundam spinoff series.
Technically build divers already delve into that, but maybe terminator esque gundam series might be great too
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AI does exist in Build Divers, but Id say the focus there is mostly just the online game they all play, with the AI being treated more or less like "local citizens".
Was thinking more along the lines of having a show that delves into how much people depend on the AI, how their use and evolution affects our society, the growth of individuals' person, and the factions that would spawn in world where said AI are prominent everywhere, along with other stuff like that.
Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans, Calamity war. We need it, *NOW* !!!
Just remember this. Gundam Exa manga has a big twist that...
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There is exactly one human in the whole series, everyone else are AI in the General Answer. They're so sophisticated that they aren't aware that they're AI and few of them even act beyond their original purpose (Fon Spaak and Hanayo). There is slso an irony that the onlt human, Sthesia, thought she is AI at the start of the story.
Do you have a video of a comparison between the gun system alaya-vijnana system or have you thought about doing one between the two?
What!? AI know's what Pot Of Greed does!? Impossible! No one has evere been able to use that card!
G Gundam on Blu-ray is a sight to behold. Beautiful.
It's funny you mention the Sid mobile armor inspired the IBO mobile armors because in a DLC for one of the SD games there is said to be a connection between the two...though that could just be a mistranslation...
I feel like the Bugs from Gundam F91 were probably intended to count. They were autonomous, supposedly self-replicating, automated killing machines. While quite dumb, they were very effective.
Out of all the ai mobile suits the gundam wing OZ - 02md Virgo is a monster
The OZ - 12 SMS TARURUS is my pick it just the best all rounder flight capable and multi use
I thought the Forbidden Gundam was neat because in high speed mode it almost looked like a Mobile Armor giving the reason the GUNDAM is forbidden, because it allowed for some advanced AI stuff or something
G-Savior Mentioned Let’s go
A few things: I think all of the gundams in Wing were programmed at least with the Alice system, since the pilots did end up talking to them quite a few times like they were humans, and could perform basic autonomous functions. That being said, I don't think it was clear what all they could do and it was mainly used as a plot device it seemed.
The RX-78F00 also has a bit where the gundam itself seems to be talking to Amuro, but I wasn't really able to understand what was being said (because my japanese is rubbish). That is more non-canon though.
Don’t forget the build series, especially build divers
Those Eldoran Windams made OMNI Windam jokes in comparison.