Unraveling the Myth of Ernest Hemingway (Feat. Lindsay Ellis) | It's Lit
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Here’s the problem with tackling Ernest Hemingway-Ernest Hemingway himself. While the iconic author is mostly known for his feats of literary prowess, from The Sun Also Rises to For Whom the Bell Tolls, to countless short stories-perhaps his greatest fiction of all is his own self-mythologizing. As his brand grew in the 1920s and 30s, so too grew his celebrity and, well, his ego.
So, with Ernie all the while throwing so much self-mythologizing in the mix that it became nearly impossible to separate the Man from the Myth.
But gosh darn it, we’re going to try.
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Fun fact: Hemingway had a large amount of cats with extra toes in his house in Florida . They came to be known as Hemingway Cats. I used to volunteer at a shelter in Central Florida and we still see a large amount of them in Florida today
He must have loved the extra toe beans.
If Hemingway Heroes are self-inserts, Hemingway Villains are revenge fanfics.
The man is the ultimate Mary Sue.
@@nicanornunez9787 the man's OP af.
"No animal has more liberty than the cat...The cat is the best anarchist."
I always worry about his cats when a hurricane hits the Keys. But I know the museum caretakers always bring them inside and his house was built like a fortress meant to withstand hurricanes.
Based and felinepilled
Ok I can go with that.
This man understood the media before TV explained it to everyone
I know Lindsay doesn't read comments, much less now, but just in case, thank you for continuing making content despite all the mess, you're amazing.
What mess?
This was probably recorded before the debacle, so unfortunately it may be the last we see of her for a while. 😕
@@tinymxnticore What was the debacle?
Oh, she was harassed off Twitter by bad actors concern-trolling her for comparing the plot of Raya to the Last Airbender. Pure gibbering nonsense.
@@alphaamino the few people who had some reasonable arguments got quickly buried by the crazies dogpiling into her mentions, dragging her as if she gauged a puppy's eyes out, not made a poorly thought out comment about children's mass media.
I’d say you’re real PBS by now; the stuff you four make on this channel is the most I’ve been invested in anything PBS since my Arthur and Fetch! with Ruff Ruffman days
Them, and Soundfield of course ;D
More so for people outside of the US. Great content for everyone 👍
fine, i will watch a three-part documentary on EH based on your recommendation. but i will be complaining about him the entire time!
Fun.
LOL
Same
Never trust an autobiography written by a professional fiction writer. Makes sense! Thanks Lindsay!
I saw an interview with his grandson John several years ago. His book, Strange Tribe, goes deep into exploding the extreme masculine myths about Ernest. It's really fascinating the lengths that both Ernest and his publisher went to prop up that image.
Hemingway out here shoving poor F. Scott into lockers...
Now I'm just picturing Ernest as Papa Smurf in human form
The mania and depression made so much of the story behind the guy "click." I don't think someone bangs out a novel in 6 weeks while 100% neurotypical. Let alone all the risk-taking and, yes, the apparent disconnect between his interactions with friends and his vicious fiction about them.
Dude was probably self-medicating for decades before the pills.
I just got a flashback to when "Was Ernest Hemingway hot?" discourse was raging a couple years ago
Lindsay Ellis and Princess Weekes have been excellent additions to PBS! All the content is amazing!! ⭐️
Agreed 👍
Or have they?
Now I just have The Village People's "Macho Man" stuck in my head.
Count me in. I have it on loop
After watching the Ken Burns doc and learning more about Hemingway, I somehow respect him, hate him, pity him, and love him all at the same time.
Perfect! 🔨
Great writer. Real m an.
That guy could write!
I know that the though of a man riping another, unwilling, mans clothes off strikes me as nothing but the manliest of actions...
6:39 “ thank you” I love that part of that pbs slogan
Haha the section in A Moveable Feast about Hemingway and Fitzgerald looking at statues together always made me laugh. Imagine confiding to your friend about such an intimate issue, only for it to be thrown into a book read by thousands.
That section was probably made up. It doesn’t align with any account of Fitzgerald’s own life. With that in mind, it reads like an ugly hit job.
I haven't read the book but I'm guessing what that this might have been because Ernest wasn't exactly a loyal friend, was he? It was Zelda who upset Scott by saying his tool was small. Scott apparently showed it to Ernest in the bathroom.
I just realized the pun in "It's Lit!". I hate myself.
If someone will say real man don't have cats I will show them pictures of Hemingway with cats and then rip my shirt off to present my chest hair.
😆
Technically, you would have to rip the other guy's shirt off, too and rub chests, to become "Hemingway manly".
I hope you buy shirts in bulk.
The preface to A Moveable Feast, and really Hemingway's entire ethos, reminds me a lot of Jeanette Winterson's theme in Art and Lies of "There's no such thing as autobiography, there's only art and lies". In her case though, this book came before her own autobiography, which was so unromanticised and dry it almost read like a Goodreads bio. It's like as if while they both knew it's pointless trying to be objective in narrating someone's life, she tried her might to mitigate it and he embraced it with a lot more humor than one might associate with grumpy macho grandpa.
Not saying either was more correct, just that it's something that pays to be aware of. You can usually tell when someone has no idea how they're coming off and when they're in on it.
Winterson is full of guff as well. People who knew her as a child say she was very different to how she portrays herself
Will never forget Randy Feltface's overview of Hemingway. Lindsay's has peaked it but this man's life never fails to drop jaws.
*SHOT HIMSELF IN THE LEG WHILE AIMING AT A SHARK.*
@@Jayfive276 Ahhh I heard that in his voice. I've seen that video too many times.
Or has she?
Feltface? ?
Thank you for this nuanced and entertaining summary of one of my favorite writers! I’m still finding new aspects of his work to pick apart and enjoy, both on a service level and with more academic scrutiny.
Top 12 short stories hard to beat. 3 novels too!
I’ve read lots, and lots and lots on Hemingway.
I’m more fan of his life, than his novels.
Hem was bigger than life.
The way he wanted it. Like a novel.
I too got into researching E.H. THEN his kids. THEN the grandkids. The Hemingway curse thing bothers me. Its genetic.. that kind of mental health illness is not uncommon to many families.
Sounds like the kind of man everyone secretly hates, but is successful and charismatic enough for most people to stay quiet about it and suck up to him.
I'd say the sort most people love when they meet him, but grow to despise if they actually have more than a casual and distant relationship with.
@@GopherAtl ahhhhh I know people like this, it's too true
Sounds like a grocery store manager with delusions of grandeur.
@@GopherAtl maybe you’re right, I know a lot of guys like that
I'd love to have known Hemingway
Ernest Hemingway knew truth is more than a sequence of facts. His superior attitude is completely justifiable. His writing is objectively superior.
And his short stories are superb...
Hemingway was an impressive mixture of having a very interesting life story and compensating for clear insecurities at the same time.
His mother destroyed him in his youth, and he never recovered.
@@kevinreily2529 that seems to be the male narrative
Sending love and algorithm boosts ❤️
Some of my favorite RUclipsrs have given up on twitter. never leave us
Twitter is toxic af, so it's understandable.
I'm pretty sure she'll be back. I think she shut down temporarily to stop the hate from ballooning out of control on her account
Yea it was a stupid thing
I think she left not because she was wrong but because there’s no apology good enough
Much love Lindsay👍
@@Moscato_Moscato like comparing similarities between two story structures, from to American ip's and being called racist is just the snake retroflexively eating itself.
@@caitlin228 considering she’s been through this before, it also might be a self-care move - an example that I think more people could benefit to follow
Interesting to see Hemingway from the lens of personal brand. This video is a great lead-up to the Ken Burns doc on him
"obstacle." Nicely self-referential. You go, girl!
So mispronouncing obstacle wasn't a mistake? What do I need to watch to get the reference?
@@rainydaylady6596 Wondering the same.
@@rainydaylady6596 O brother where art thou. Check out her podcast.
@@Minam0 Ok. Thank you. 🖖🙂💕
She's an AI. She barely breathes at all.
Have always loved the Kat Stratford quote from 10 Things I Hate About You. "Hemingway? He was an abusive, alcoholic misogynist who squandered half of his life hanging around Picasso trying to nail his leftovers."
Who is Kat Stratford?
Good timing with the ken burns documentary.
Love LE’s content here and her channel! Added PBS to my Roku just to watch the Hemingway doc... but Ill stay for the other great stuff too.
Just finished the PBS documentary. Excellent. Such a tragic figure. But, I am convinced that most of the folks who truly move the needle in the world are rather eccentric and sometimes very broken, like Hemingway. Wracked with depression and insecurity. And then of course many head injuries, mental illness, and addiction.
Equally fascinating, he torched so many people ... but the power of his charm kept most of them sympathetic to him.
A very complicated person much larger than life. And his writing is often stunningly great.
If you've ever been to Key West, you get the same vibe. The fact that he lived there is a gigantic selling point. On the bright side, there are more cigar stores than any other place I've been to, so that's cool.
Because....Cuba (am currently reading Leonardo Padura's "Adiós, Hemingway")
Been to Ybor City?
So informative! Thanks, Lindsay 😊
If I read a dating profile like that, I'd probably assume they were lying their heads off.
Must say, I never finished the only Hemingway book I ever started. That is not a common occurrance for me
not the biggest fan of hemingway myself, but have you tried the old man and the sea? it's one of his shorter works and the hemingway hero in that one is much less machismo and more like humble and dogged :D
I tried to read for whom the bell tolls and every chapter I was thinking when in the heck are they gonna blow up that bridge?? Also how old is this "girl" because I'm about to puke all over this book and throw it in a dumpster fire. Turns out they don't blow it up until the very end of the book and everything in-between is insufferable. I couldn't do it either.
That Hemingway family photo is so wonderful!
Great video and interesting as heck.
Thank you! 🙏
Thanks for the video, can you do F. Scott Fitzgerald next?
The Old Man and the sea, fabulous book and movie
Big, Two-Hearted River!
My favorite Hemingway tidbit is that he met JD Salinger while serving in WW2, and liked Catcher in the Rye (or that certain draft), and JD apparently fanboyed relentlessly.
this is a really clever and tongue-in cheek video for PBS to do an iceberg video
Well done! Thank you.
*GOT CLAWED WHILE PLAYING WITH A LION.*
Love your work, Lindsay!
Hey Lindsay, I hope you are doing well, and I hope you know that we love, appreciate and support you!
I really enjoy this series. They don’t pull any punches
I'll never forgive him for the way he treated Scott and especially Zelda
@@liketodriverealyfast what? Lol I was only joking (sorta). They're all dead it doesn't matter... but I still just don't like him.
@@liketodriverealyfast hahah only with relatives
Zelda was a jealous lunatic , insecure drunk, who tried everything she could think of to prevent F. Scott from writing. Fitzgerald allowed her to ruin his life. He was pathetic in that regard. Hemingway never let anything/any woman interfere with his writing.
Fitzgerald admitted that he was going to parties every night for years , getting drunk with Zelda...and not writing a word. Hemingway was writing everyday.
@@beckybytHave you read "Soldier's Home"?
Amazing video, guys, congratulations. I love all the videos of this series but this might be the best, Th Sun Also Rises of the It's Lit videos, one might say.
6:00 That's just "being from Michigan".
(It's like Minnesota-nice, but more refined.)
Thanks.
This was great! Well done! Keep well :)
Waiting for Simone from Polygon to show up here XD
But seriously, this is such a good video! What a fascinating man--he reminds me of Jack London in the focus on the masculine body, self reliance, and determinism. Though I wonder to what extend each author embraced the wilderness, or sought to tame it (I think its the former more for London, the latter more or Hemingway.) Excellent stuff!
She tweeted about it.
I have tried so hard to like Hemingway, and I have never been able to cross that bridge. His style of writing does not agree with me; his personality has always rubbed me the wrong way; his treatment of Fitzgerald, who helped and encouraged Hemingway's career, struck me as negative. But maybe one day, I'll overcome my resistance and be able to meet him halfway.
I remember struggling to read The Sun Also Rises in high school. I think if would be fair to say his work consists of plain prose, which can make things tedious if you aren't already into stories of fishing and hunting. Would others agree?
I think personality-wise he was an absolute ass, and while I don't think his style is the "End all be all only correct way to write" I have to admit, the dude was a damn good writer.
I hate how he gave too much emphasis and depth on mundane things rather than the plot and characters.
@@criticalhit009 I agree.
@@criticalhit009
I don't know if you are female, too, but I definitely felt that (like Joseph Conrad) he's a man's writer. It's hard sometimes to bridge that gap. But I found the insight into the male psyche interesting, if ofttimes baffling & maddening! 🤔
“Obs-Tackle”
lmao
Fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Agreed. ruclips.net/video/GibvRU4PmI4/видео.html
fantastic explanation on Hemingway.
I'd love to see a video essay comparing self-mythologizing in the age before and after social media.
Just read "Hills like White Elephants" and after watching this video I am all the more interested in reading his work. Excuse me while I manically read everything he's ever written and learn trivia which shall never leave my mind.
I did an in-depth study of him last year. All the novels, all the short stories, A Moveable Feast. I felt that For Whom the Bell Tolls was a masterpiece. Absolutely authentic & gripping. I would gladly read it again any time. The short stories are more like snapshots of a feeling, a moment, a personality, than a narrative. Just my impressions. I enjoyed the study, overall, & hope you do, too! 📚
Read " Up in Michigan". You won't forget.
Try "Soldier's Home" and "The Snow of Kilimanjaro."
Absolutely love the man's writing, but you have to feel sorry for him.
Hemingway sounds like a really self-conscious about his macho troll. If he was born a Millennial he would have been Keemstar or Joe Rogan lmao.
👍👍👍 Nice to see you again. :)
When I was 15, I read started reading ‘the old man and the sea’. But quickly I developed a totally unfunded antipathy against the author of the book. Did’t know why.
Your video made me think that maybe he is was narcissist, and I felt that through the story.
A highly concentrated, not-uncritical account of the writer's life and work.
The best thing about Hemingway is in the thumbnail: his cats. ❤
He loved his cats, big time. That's something which gets lost a bit in among all the other details.
Read "A Farewell to Arms." 😎
wow
Reading Axioms's End at the moment, and its genuinely fantastic! Well done Lindsey!
It only keeps getting better! It's the first book in awhile to make me cry. I hope you continue to enjoy your read of it!
@@sael91 glad to hear it.
Yep, she's a great writer
Was that sarcasm?
@@SirBlackReeds no, why it be sarcastic?
I will absolutely never get tired of Lindsey calling famous men some variant of Daddy
It's a low bar considering Hemingway got people to use Papa as a nickname for him starting in the 1920s
truly
Great video!
Noticed that his reporting days were concatenated to his few months at the Kansas Star, while omitting his four years working for the Toronto Star, totalling fours in tenure.
"You're your own brand." Hemingway, the OG influencer.
Thanks, that was interesting!
Amazing video !
Good analysis
Such a legendary literary master.
Indian Camp!
Unrelated-but-kinda-related: Lindsay, please don't quit RUclips.
Ernest Hemingway doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he prefers Dos Equis.
Most interesting Man in the World...
Fascinating...
Good video. Thanks
Very Interesting!
always love seeing your face on here💗💛
So is "ob'stack'le a Hemmingway reference or did you just happen to have watched "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" recently? :)
She did, actually, it was the latest episode of Musicalsplaining!
@@that2amvagueexistentialdread Thanks for the tip!
I love how she threw in a reference from a topic covered in a totally different series of hers
wretched man! loved the video, much thanks🤗xx
2:10 SOLD!
Now to support a veteran and fellow conservationist!
That Hemingway museum in Oak Park, Illinois, tho.
The Mary V Dearborn was super enlightening. But dear God was it long. If it wasn't so honest he probably would've loved it
I listened to "Hunting with Hemmingway" by Hilary Hemmingway (Daughter of Leicester Hemmingway and niece to Ernest). I thought it was interesting and dabbled with the family tall tale telling.
"You know, the real PBS"... Channeled our chap Hemmingway there for a hot second...
Yay! Been coming across plenty of Ernest Hemmingway discourse lately!
PS. I do miss the Ellis bookshelf...!
Precious
Lindsay, you are absolutely hilarious. Thank you for a great episode It's Lit team ♡
Lindsay, you’re Real PBS to me.
thanks Lindsay, you covered Hemming Ernestway nicely :p
So if I’m hearing you right, Hemingway is to Teddy Roosevelt what King is to One Punch Man?!?!? 🤣😜
I love you Lindsay, hope you're doing well ^^
She had it bad for 15 seconds. That's it.
This is the real PBS now
"Getting married four times"...That was wild enough!
I would like to see an episode on Hunter S. Thompson. I also don't know what in his publications are fact or fiction.
I've never clicked on a video sooner.