After 3 weeks of flying this plane, I can confirm it is a 20/20! She’s perfect. Very well designed. The only weak spot is the that the stock tires are way too thin. Mine popped on a rough asphalted runway. Replaced them with 5” Dubro’s and she’s perfect. I still give it a perfect score despite the tire issue for all the thoughtful design features. Like the wing latch mechanism, have plastic in critical high wear and tear areas like the wingtip and canopy. I appreciate the thick high quality pushrods and linkages. I live in the Caribbean and we have three cyclones forming down here. I flew 4 flights under brutally windy conditions. She was solid, despite the size of the wing, and when I switched on the the A3 Super 4 gyro she was like “what wind?”. I’m happy.
@@austrianbeats74 The Dubro's are way heavier, but it makes no difference. This is why I am so happy with this plane. So much lift. The wing is so great! I fly Dubro inflatables on the mains, and put Dubro on as the tail wheel as well. I also use 4500 mah 6S packs. No problem whatsoever. I fly with no slats and vortex generators. No problem. The only thing that may happen with the weight of the Dubro's, is that with a hard landing, the gear mount may detach from the body of the plane, because the factory glue is not that strong.
ok, i got the inflatable dubros now but the diameter is less then 5mm so i can‘t mount them. now ill increase the diameter of the wheel mounting and the axial safety ring
@@austrianbeats74 Ah yes, forgot to tell you that. You have to drill ever so slightly. Be sure its a tight fit, measure with a caliper and get the right bit. If it's loose, it will wobble.
@@austrianbeats74 Another tip, don't inflate the Dubros too much. Keep them semi-soft to minimize the energy transfer to the airframe on a hard landing.
Awesome Video! You and tail heavy are my only rc youtuber that i really trust. I always watch your videos on the same as you uplooad them because they are just perfect
Jon, the only man on earth that squeezes tires like most people rub a dog's belly. I think Mr.Whipple stirred in his grave from that gratuitous squeezin'
I've been trying to decide what plane I wanted to move up from my Carbon Cub S2 1.3m. I was looking at a couple different 2m aircraft, but this video just made up my mind. Next plane will be the Super Timber.
Uhg. the price point on these foam planes! Yet, I know I'll be buying this soon anyway. LOL. Wonder if the springs are the issue with bounce vs. the tires. Guess I'll find out. Thanks for the demo. I love my Carbon Cub. So, I'm already sure I'll love this even more.
If you round up all the high wing foamys 1700-1800 mm this plane far out does them in features. The flaps, tires, lighting for starters. Plus it has a giant 45mm stator motor where others are using 35s and you can get parts. Shit i just convinced myself to buy one
We'd really appreciate the support if you could consider picking it up via one of our links! Happy to see you're onboard with the value proposition. It's been incredible to fly. Hope to see ya at Nall this weekend!
Hello Jon, great video. Just a few questions, about the flap/aileron mixing, is all that by the book, or your preference? Did you replace the servos? I am new and just got an NX10 and still figuring it out. I saw some videos that experienced a warped left wing, which resulted in 42 clicks of trim. Sound unpleasant to deal with for a new plane. Lastly, what is the largest 6S battery that can be used. Thank you, Anthony
We wrote our own book on this one. The setup info at the end of the vid is the way we prefer doing it - it's more customizable and allows you to adjust the programming of the aircraft to your preferences. Servos were left stock - they're fast, powerful, and precise enough. A few guys had issues with their Super Timber. Happens to every plane at some point. The largest battery we'd recommend would be a 5000 pack, but some people have had success with 6000 batteries. The heavier the battery, the easier it is to stall while maneuvering. Keep that in mind. If you want to learn more about programming with your NX10, hop on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and chat in the #tech-and-setup channel!
I do not want to move up to 6S with any of my planes and love the Evo on 4S.... would I also like the Super Timber or no reason to spend more money and better stay with the Evo (I like scale, relaxed flying)? Thanks for showing it on 4S!
Hey Jon, I am at a point in my life where i only have 1 plane at a time. I currently have the TTE. After seeing this i have considered selling it and upgrading to this? Is that no brainer? Looks to be a bit more stable in the air. Would this be the one if you had to choose 1 timber? Thanks for all that you do!
If we only had one option, this one would be a stellar choice. For hovering, we prefer the Evo, but for basically everything else the Super Timber is pretty amazing.
I'm gonna have to agree, I dont mind yellow! The only timber I've owned was a night timber X, aside from some major servo issues (all wing servos failed over time) it was fun.
Great and detailed review! Seems like this Timber has some improvements and new features. But what about the price? Did you consider adding the price param into your review calculation? (I mean in general, not for this model specifically) 😊
Nah, pricing is never factored into our scores. You can't really quantify a price point for a model aircraft. What we might find inexpensive could be seen as hilariously out of touch by someone with less money, or vice versa. It's too opinion-based to be used for a review score in our viewpoint.
Hey Two brothers !!! Just wondering when your hovering it in the video is that all standard everything ? I want it to be forgiving but want to hover just once or twice. Where would you suggest the CG to be placed dor that ? Also do the surfaces allow 150 percent travel from the box with no receiver tricks? Also have you tried a 2 blade on the super yet ?
You will need to unlock the receiver to set it up for 150 travel like what we're using here. The CG we preferred was with a 3200 to 3600-class pack placed at the rear of the mounting points in the plane. Haven't tried a twin prop yet.
Bummer im no good on the computer to do that. So it wont be able to hover without those rates ? What battery and discharge do you find is best ? Alot of people are saying 6s 4000mah. Would the lighter smaller battery last 5 mins or so ? @TwoBrosRC
How would you compare it with the Balsa Timber Sws? Would be an interesting comparison between those two since this one is half the price of the sws and easier to put together.
There's no real comparison between them since the SWS generally flies "better" because it's got a bigger wingspan. They each have unique flight characteristics.
TTE doesn't take the Twin wings, and Super won't take them either. The wing connection is too different. You'd have to mod them in, but it'd be hilarious 😂
Apprentice Size 15 floats: alnk.to/3clIUsk Sorry about not including it earlier, we always forget something when rushing to get a video done in time for a pre-release announcement.
I love rolls, infact that's all I do is never ending rolls rolls fur days battery after battery just spiny rolls to the left and the right roll .....roll.......roll........roll..... Did I mention I love rolls?
So do they say when this will be available? I hate the stupid pReOrDeR BS. Last time I pre ordered something, it took 7 months for them to tell me they cancelled my order
Those flat spins are crazy Not even my dedicated 3d planes do them like that This plane looks great can’t wait to pick one up And I definitely glad they got rid of slotted flaps allows full span alerions The slotted flaps were cool and all but not needed
Sorry about the delayed response, being at Joe Nall took up all of Jon's time. The Super Timber is fantastic, absolutely - hope you end up getting one!
I bought one of these the second it came out. The quality is outstanding and much higher than I was expecting. Everything from how it was packed, to the finishing of the aircraft was top notch. It's clear that this airplane was very carefully designed. Assembly was very easy and she looks great! The only thing I can complain about is that they did not label the wires on the PNP version. After I placed the order I started to wonder if I had been smooth talked by Two Brothers and Brian Phillips RC into buying a plane that may not be as good as advertised. However this was not the case! This baby really is a 10/10!
Great video, I am mainly wanting to use this plane on floats….I looked through the comments but did not see what battery you thought works best in the float setup and how much time you were getting in a normal flight.
Great vids. and i like the rating systems ,but I thought I'd ask you a question for beginners as I'm a beginner,( sadly i have a language problem living in Japan) anyway, i was wondering, How do we know when to change to another plane? Landing? take offs? Figure 8s? Loops? Rolls? When to move to a low wing? And no offence to other channels.Some seem to say "even a beginner can fly this!" And of course there is the conflict of interest, between, money, sponsors, and being true to the beginners. I fly the Xfly Glastar 1200mm which have those lovely soft air tyres. I have along flight ahead of me to get to those warbirds.LOL. Great vids and i like the scoring. Any chance of a easy of flight rating for beginners to experts. I like how you sometimes talk about trust in your vids. So true.
We can't make those calls for you, unfortunately. What airplane to fly and when is ultimately your call. We generally talk about how difficult something is to fly if a viewer watches the entire vid - it's difficult to quantify "this is beginner" or "this is advanced" because that can vary from person to person. Thanks for the feedback!
@@TwoBrosRC Thank you for taking time out of your schedule to write. Much appreciated.I'll look out for the "difficulty to fly points." That'll be helpful for sure.
Hi, congratulations, nice video!! I agree with you, I also would have liked the inflatable wheels on the previous versions. In your opinion, can the wheels of this super timber be mounted on the first version of the timber or are they too heavy? Thanks for the reply.
Thank you for this review. E-flight is recomending to use the float made for the apprentice. Are these the ones you were using? How was the buoyancy for the super timber? What about the water rudder, I beleive there is no dedicated servo on these float, how easy it was to make it work from the tail wheel? Is it possible to use better float than these (I.e. with a dedicated servo)?
Floats should be linked in the description for ya. The floats work great on water, no issues whatsoever. The water rudder is not ideal and has a bit of play to it due to the linkage design, but it's otherwise perfectly fine. No idea if other floats are possible, the ones recommended are the ones we used.
Thanks for the reply! I wonder if the float for the fms super cub would interchange, would be nice to have a servo in the float and not having the red graphic on a yellow plane.
Very good video. I really enjoyed that your encouraging RC pilots of all levels and also acknowledging the even you have room to improve. The earned my respect for your work doing videos. I agree the wings of the Twin Timber with awesome landing gear and even does well on floats, what's not to love about that?
@@TwoBrosRC I have the E-flite Extra 300 1.3m and love it but the sound it makes taking off and landing just gives it a cheap feeling.. That whistle sound was just to cool
Definitely getting one as soon as I can! Maybe a stupid question; can I use the floats from the turbo timber evo? I smashed my TTE into a frozen lake, last month, and all I can reuse is the rudder and elevator(and the floats, which was not installed at the time). Was just about to reorder one, when I saw your video on the super timber today. So I’ll wait until I can get one in Norway 🎉
Jon, what do you think of the Super timber vs the turbo timber evolution? I've heard very polar reviews on it. I'm very confident in my ability to fly both but I've heard the super timber has a lot slower stall speed and a somewhat violent stall (Brian Phillips had this issue and I've seen no one else have/address it) and flies heavier. That being said, the replacement parts for the super timber are essentially the same price as for the turbo timber evolution and the super timber has some very nice features like the easily removable wing m, inflatable tires, removable battery tray etc. I'm leaning towards the super timber because of the overall value but at the end of the day, I want the most fun plane to fly that can still achieve predictable, slow speed flight like the evolution. Thoughts?
The TTE has a lower stall speed between the two aircraft, but the Super Timber is more capable overall. So long as you're not putting it into an accelerated stall, you should have nothing to worry about!
Do you have any recommendations for a dual blade prop that works well for the Super Timber? I run a dual blade on my turbo timber and i was wondering if you have experimented with a similar setup on the Super. Great videos as always! Thanks!
I know you love the ec1500, and I was thinking that would be my next plane, but this has me rethinking that. Flight characteristics wise, which do you like better? I fly kind of like you and like some 3d/ XA capability even in a sport plane.
The EC is an awesome cargo/3D hybrid, but this is definitely a better all-round airframe in our view. The EC is incredible but it doesn't offer the same versatility that the Super Timber does. The massive wheels make a big difference. The EC can't be flown from anything but short grass, dirt, and pavement, while the ST can fly almost anywhere.
Super Timber landing bounce. At speed in full cruise the aircraft is trimmed to hold the nose up. At slower speed the aircraft drops the nose due to less lift. When landing a tail dragged simply release all elevator back pressure at the moment of tire contact and the aircraft weight will keep it glued to the runway. Timing is the key.
Hope you make another video of this bird in the future. It will be interesting to see what you change. I followed your advice on the upgraded props for the twinber and it turned it into a totally different plane! In a good way!
Hi Jon. The servos on my Super Timber seem to be just ok. If you were going to upgrade the servos on your Super Timber, what servos would you go with? Thanks!
Excellent review as always, Jon! I've always preferred the ol' poodle-nose over the anteater version. Gotta get one of these after I maiden my 2m Draco & 1.5m Twin Beech! 😁
After 3 weeks of flying this plane, I can confirm it is a 20/20! She’s perfect. Very well designed. The only weak spot is the that the stock tires are way too thin. Mine popped on a rough asphalted runway. Replaced them with 5” Dubro’s and she’s perfect. I still give it a perfect score despite the tire issue for all the thoughtful design features. Like the wing latch mechanism, have plastic in critical high wear and tear areas like the wingtip and canopy. I appreciate the thick high quality pushrods and linkages.
I live in the Caribbean and we have three cyclones forming down here. I flew 4 flights under brutally windy conditions. She was solid, despite the size of the wing, and when I switched on the the A3 Super 4 gyro she was like “what wind?”. I’m happy.
@@renaldolama9517 Hello, the dubros are a bit heavier though. Do you think it restricts flying a little bit or have you noticed anything bad ? 🤔
@@austrianbeats74 The Dubro's are way heavier, but it makes no difference. This is why I am so happy with this plane. So much lift. The wing is so great! I fly Dubro inflatables on the mains, and put Dubro on as the tail wheel as well. I also use 4500 mah 6S packs. No problem whatsoever. I fly with no slats and vortex generators. No problem. The only thing that may happen with the weight of the Dubro's, is that with a hard landing, the gear mount may detach from the body of the plane, because the factory glue is not that strong.
ok, i got the inflatable dubros now but the diameter is less then 5mm so i can‘t mount them. now ill increase the diameter of the wheel mounting and the axial safety ring
@@austrianbeats74 Ah yes, forgot to tell you that. You have to drill ever so slightly. Be sure its a tight fit, measure with a caliper and get the right bit. If it's loose, it will wobble.
@@austrianbeats74 Another tip, don't inflate the Dubros too much. Keep them semi-soft to minimize the energy transfer to the airframe on a hard landing.
Awesome Video! You and tail heavy are my only rc youtuber that i really trust. I always watch your videos on the same as you uplooad them because they are just perfect
Thanks so much, man!
Agree 100%
Thanks! A small token of appreciation for your great videos
Thanks so much man, very much appreciated!
Jon, the only man on earth that squeezes tires like most people rub a dog's belly.
I think Mr.Whipple stirred in his grave from that gratuitous squeezin'
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Just here for the squeeze tbh
You guys helped me get into a great hobby thank you😀.
Our pleasure!
I’ll buy this just for the quick connect wings! I want to gripe about another Timber but this one is a good evolution.
Can't gripe when it's this good. 😁
I've been trying to decide what plane I wanted to move up from my Carbon Cub S2 1.3m. I was looking at a couple different 2m aircraft, but this video just made up my mind. Next plane will be the Super Timber.
Happy to help! Definitely consider our affiliate link if you do end up getting one. Cheers
Uhg. the price point on these foam planes! Yet, I know I'll be buying this soon anyway. LOL. Wonder if the springs are the issue with bounce vs. the tires. Guess I'll find out. Thanks for the demo. I love my Carbon Cub. So, I'm already sure I'll love this even more.
It's definitely the wheels causing the bouncing. 3 points make it a non-issue
@@TwoBrosRC how about lowering flap settings? wouldn't that also help with bouncing?
Thank you for responding.
You are such a good pilot!
Again, great video and honest review. Thx for sharing.
Happy to help!
If you round up all the high wing foamys 1700-1800 mm this plane far out does them in features. The flaps, tires, lighting for starters. Plus it has a giant 45mm stator motor where others are using 35s and you can get parts. Shit i just convinced myself to buy one
We'd really appreciate the support if you could consider picking it up via one of our links! Happy to see you're onboard with the value proposition. It's been incredible to fly. Hope to see ya at Nall this weekend!
Pre ordered👍 almost bought the night timber X😭 lucky i saw this on my feed🙏
If you got it from our links, huge thanks! If you didn't, still happy for ya either way. Hop into Discord and let us know what you think of it!
Those wheels are great!
Hello Jon, great video. Just a few questions, about the flap/aileron mixing, is all that by the book, or your preference? Did you replace the servos? I am new and just got an NX10 and still figuring it out. I saw some videos that experienced a warped left wing, which resulted in 42 clicks of trim. Sound unpleasant to deal with for a new plane. Lastly, what is the largest 6S battery that can be used. Thank you, Anthony
We wrote our own book on this one. The setup info at the end of the vid is the way we prefer doing it - it's more customizable and allows you to adjust the programming of the aircraft to your preferences.
Servos were left stock - they're fast, powerful, and precise enough. A few guys had issues with their Super Timber. Happens to every plane at some point. The largest battery we'd recommend would be a 5000 pack, but some people have had success with 6000 batteries. The heavier the battery, the easier it is to stall while maneuvering. Keep that in mind.
If you want to learn more about programming with your NX10, hop on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and chat in the #tech-and-setup channel!
I do not want to move up to 6S with any of my planes and love the Evo on 4S.... would I also like the Super Timber or no reason to spend more money and better stay with the Evo (I like scale, relaxed flying)? Thanks for showing it on 4S!
Adam's video - what the ST does when you turn it on. Jon's video - what the ST does when you turn it up to 11. Lol.
You know how we do here, but that's why our channels compliment one another so well. 🧡
Hey Jon,
I am at a point in my life where i only have 1 plane at a time. I currently have the TTE. After seeing this i have considered selling it and upgrading to this? Is that no brainer? Looks to be a bit more stable in the air.
Would this be the one if you had to choose 1 timber?
Thanks for all that you do!
If we only had one option, this one would be a stellar choice. For hovering, we prefer the Evo, but for basically everything else the Super Timber is pretty amazing.
I do like this one!
I'm gonna have to agree, I dont mind yellow! The only timber I've owned was a night timber X, aside from some major servo issues (all wing servos failed over time) it was fun.
Another timber let's goooooo
Wish the Turbo Timber Evo gear retrofit kit included 4.25” lightweight inflatable wheels.
It wouldn't benefit from them as much given the weight difference being heavier on a smaller wingspan.
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Great and detailed review! Seems like this Timber has some improvements and new features. But what about the price? Did you consider adding the price param into your review calculation? (I mean in general, not for this model specifically) 😊
Nah, pricing is never factored into our scores. You can't really quantify a price point for a model aircraft. What we might find inexpensive could be seen as hilariously out of touch by someone with less money, or vice versa. It's too opinion-based to be used for a review score in our viewpoint.
@@TwoBrosRC got it :)
What kind of inflator is required for the tires? "Basketball" pin-type???
Yup. The plane comes with one.
Hey Two brothers !!! Just wondering when your hovering it in the video is that all standard everything ? I want it to be forgiving but want to hover just once or twice. Where would you suggest the CG to be placed dor that ? Also do the surfaces allow 150 percent travel from the box with no receiver tricks? Also have you tried a 2 blade on the super yet ?
You will need to unlock the receiver to set it up for 150 travel like what we're using here. The CG we preferred was with a 3200 to 3600-class pack placed at the rear of the mounting points in the plane. Haven't tried a twin prop yet.
Bummer im no good on the computer to do that. So it wont be able to hover without those rates ? What battery and discharge do you find is best ? Alot of people are saying 6s 4000mah. Would the lighter smaller battery last 5 mins or so ? @TwoBrosRC
It probably will, we just prefer full throws. 3200 class packs are what we preferred. Flight time depends on how you fly.
They need a 60cc size with turbo prop
How would you compare it with the Balsa Timber Sws? Would be an interesting comparison between those two since this one is half the price of the sws and easier to put together.
There's no real comparison between them since the SWS generally flies "better" because it's got a bigger wingspan. They each have unique flight characteristics.
1135 ohboy, it makes a noise.!!!
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Being that the Stance is rather High, How is the ground handling in a breese?
Aileron into the wind and you won't have any issues. We were flying ours at Nall on Friday and it handled 40 MPH gusts on the ground.
can i switch between full spin ailerons and as3x + safe while flying or is this not possible ?
AS3X and SAFE can be switched between. Full span ailerons can be disabled or enabled as you desire.
ok and landing flaps are also possible or not because i give away one channel because i have 2 flaps ? 🤔
You're better off asking these questions on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord so you can get help from our community!
Hey John, how much better could it get with a 2 blade prop?? Like the evo being much better on the 2blade vs 3…
It could be somewhat more efficient on a two blade prop for sure.
ah figures, do you happen to know when it’s supposed to ship out?
And I just bought a timber evo…
does the turbo timber evolution or super timber accept the wings of a twin timber???? that's the real question! three motors would be hilarious.
TTE doesn't take the Twin wings, and Super won't take them either. The wing connection is too different. You'd have to mod them in, but it'd be hilarious 😂
@@TwoBrosRC I thank you for trying! It tortured me to the point I almost justified surprising my wife with another plane 😬
Is this a direct replacement for the evo?
Nah, the Evo will continue to be sold still.
@@TwoBrosRC but its the super timber a direct replacement for the turbo timber?
When does it ship out?
Within the month.
Will the tires fit on the arrows bigfoot
Maybe? It's not somethin we immediately attempted.
Does this have SAFE technology???
All bind & fly aircraft do.
What floats did you use on it
Apprentice Size 15 floats: alnk.to/3clIUsk
Sorry about not including it earlier, we always forget something when rushing to get a video done in time for a pre-release announcement.
@@TwoBrosRC awesome review, love watching
I’m here to make a prediction. Next timber will be the super timber evolution.
Hook it to our veins!
The softer the wheel, the bigger the bounce ...
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Pls do rolling harrier in picasimfree pls.everyour pls like to Let him see this comment.
Plssssss😢😢😢.
I can't do it in picaSim free I not do in real live because I don't have rc plane😢😢.
We've done them in tutorials before. Check it out on our video backlog.
After watching that video,I didn't understand.😢
Pls do it in picaSim Free game.😢
Doing a bunch of stupid rolls is just stupid.
Sorry that triggers you.
I love rolls, infact that's all I do is never ending rolls rolls fur days battery after battery just spiny rolls to the left and the right roll .....roll.......roll........roll..... Did I mention I love rolls?
I love rolls too, especially Logan's rolls, but Golden Corral has decent ones too
Roll out of this chat
Yep this is the channel I was looking for to see this plane in action👍
Happy to help!
So do they say when this will be available? I hate the stupid pReOrDeR BS. Last time I pre ordered something, it took 7 months for them to tell me they cancelled my order
It should be shipping within the month, that would be our guess.
Those flat spins are crazy
Not even my dedicated 3d planes do them like that
This plane looks great can’t wait to pick one up
And I definitely glad they got rid of slotted flaps allows full span alerions
The slotted flaps were cool and all but not needed
Sorry about the delayed response, being at Joe Nall took up all of Jon's time. The Super Timber is fantastic, absolutely - hope you end up getting one!
I bought one of these the second it came out. The quality is outstanding and much higher than I was expecting. Everything from how it was packed, to the finishing of the aircraft was top notch. It's clear that this airplane was very carefully designed. Assembly was very easy and she looks great! The only thing I can complain about is that they did not label the wires on the PNP version. After I placed the order I started to wonder if I had been smooth talked by Two Brothers and Brian Phillips RC into buying a plane that may not be as good as advertised. However this was not the case! This baby really is a 10/10!
Happy to hear that, man! Hope you enjoy long flights with it.
Great video, I am mainly wanting to use this plane on floats….I looked through the comments but did not see what battery you thought works best in the float setup and how much time you were getting in a normal flight.
We use the same battery as the wheeled flights and get the same flight times. Doesn't change anything.
Great vids. and i like the rating systems ,but I thought I'd ask you a question for beginners as I'm a beginner,( sadly i have a language problem living in Japan) anyway, i was wondering, How do we know when to change to another plane? Landing? take offs? Figure 8s? Loops? Rolls? When to move to a low wing? And no offence to other channels.Some seem to say "even a beginner can fly this!" And of course there is the conflict of interest, between, money, sponsors, and being true to the beginners. I fly the Xfly Glastar 1200mm which have those lovely soft air tyres. I have along flight ahead of me to get to those warbirds.LOL. Great vids and i like the scoring. Any chance of a easy of flight rating for beginners to experts. I like how you sometimes talk about trust in your vids. So true.
We can't make those calls for you, unfortunately. What airplane to fly and when is ultimately your call. We generally talk about how difficult something is to fly if a viewer watches the entire vid - it's difficult to quantify "this is beginner" or "this is advanced" because that can vary from person to person. Thanks for the feedback!
@@TwoBrosRC Thank you for taking time out of your schedule to write. Much appreciated.I'll look out for the "difficulty to fly points." That'll be helpful for sure.
Love the Content and Really enjoying my Supertimber ! Can yall do a video on how to set up live wing ??
That info is at the back of the vid. It's normally called full span ailerons.
THANK you soo much ! Can’t wait to get it all set up and test it out !
that thing is HOT
It's been sitting in my cart all day. This is the review I was waiting on. Thanks Jon. You're the man! Good job, HH. This one's a home run!
Hope you enjoy it - we'd definitely appreciate an affiliate sale if you're okay with that!
@@TwoBrosRC for sure. Do I just click on your link or do I use a code?
Hi, congratulations, nice video!! I agree with you, I also would have liked the inflatable wheels on the previous versions.
In your opinion, can the wheels of this super timber be mounted on the first version of the timber or are they too heavy? Thanks for the reply.
Great review as usual. Can't wait to get mine. Wondering if servos feel strong for 3D
We didn't replace our servos. No reason to - they're capable of everything you saw the plane do in the vid!
I just knew I was buying a PA-18 before I watched this vid... and obviously before the Super Timber was announced 🤣. Now I need this one
This was an incredibly comprehensive review and makes me want to buy this aircraft. Thanks for all your work!
Thanks so much!
Timbers are second to none!
Thank you for this review. E-flight is recomending to use the float made for the apprentice. Are these the ones you were using? How was the buoyancy for the super timber? What about the water rudder, I beleive there is no dedicated servo on these float, how easy it was to make it work from the tail wheel? Is it possible to use better float than these (I.e. with a dedicated servo)?
Floats should be linked in the description for ya. The floats work great on water, no issues whatsoever. The water rudder is not ideal and has a bit of play to it due to the linkage design, but it's otherwise perfectly fine. No idea if other floats are possible, the ones recommended are the ones we used.
Thanks for the reply! I wonder if the float for the fms super cub would interchange, would be nice to have a servo in the float and not having the red graphic on a yellow plane.
The updated floats come with black stickers, as you can see in the video with the float flying segments.
Very good video. I really enjoyed that your encouraging RC pilots of all levels and also acknowledging the even you have room to improve. The earned my respect for your work doing videos. I agree the wings of the Twin Timber with awesome landing gear and even does well on floats, what's not to love about that?
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don't care how many timbers eflite makes. I will buy every single one. You can not go wrong with a timber.
Especially not this one, since it's the first Timber that hits all the review criteria.
Nice fun plane to fly😊
Execpt the little timber x I hate that one with a passion lol.
@@mattynn8080 hahaha. i hate that thing as well. Does it take off for the moon for you too?
@@thomasseeley8124 yes and don’t dare let off the throttle for one second. lol. Straight to the ground.
Love my Turbo Timber EVO... This is a must buy for me! Think I'll dedicate the EVO to floats and the Super to wheels! Stoked!
It's a fantastic airframe for sure, but don't discount the Evo on wheels. It handles differently to the Super Timber!
Finally soft wheels!!! I hate the sound of the hard wheels as well. Nice video Jon
A neat touch about rubber wheels is that they sound very similar to full scale planes landing.
@@TwoBrosRC I have the E-flite Extra 300 1.3m and love it but the sound it makes taking off and landing just gives it a cheap feeling.. That whistle sound was just to cool
Soul Plane?? Get out 🤣🤣🤣🤣👊🏿
Yellow is a good color for an R/C plane.it’s easier to see
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Sorry it bored you.
@@TwoBrosRC It wasn't your flying , it's just another Timber
Definitely getting one as soon as I can! Maybe a stupid question; can I use the floats from the turbo timber evo?
I smashed my TTE into a frozen lake, last month, and all I can reuse is the rudder and elevator(and the floats, which was not installed at the time). Was just about to reorder one, when I saw your video on the super timber today. So I’ll wait until I can get one in Norway 🎉
Sorry, that's not possible. It's gotta be the floats linked in the description. Apprentice Size 15 are required.
i crashed it LOL
Uh, how?
hello, can you please measure the deflection of the elevator with small flaps and the deflection of the elevator with large flaps, thank you.
Sorry, can't do that. It's easier for you to test flap settings yourself and see what works for you.
Jon, what do you think of the Super timber vs the turbo timber evolution? I've heard very polar reviews on it. I'm very confident in my ability to fly both but I've heard the super timber has a lot slower stall speed and a somewhat violent stall (Brian Phillips had this issue and I've seen no one else have/address it) and flies heavier. That being said, the replacement parts for the super timber are essentially the same price as for the turbo timber evolution and the super timber has some very nice features like the easily removable wing m, inflatable tires, removable battery tray etc. I'm leaning towards the super timber because of the overall value but at the end of the day, I want the most fun plane to fly that can still achieve predictable, slow speed flight like the evolution. Thoughts?
The TTE has a lower stall speed between the two aircraft, but the Super Timber is more capable overall. So long as you're not putting it into an accelerated stall, you should have nothing to worry about!
Wheels are a big problem. Lot of bouncing. Replace with Dubrow light.
Definitely disagree that they're a problem - if you deflate them significantly, they won't bounce.
Mine is on order!!
Got mine coming!!!
Excellent video!!!I've been to that park where the float flying was and i can't remember where it is..driving me crazy
It's in Cary, NC.
@@TwoBrosRC McGreggor Downs?
Do you have any recommendations for a dual blade prop that works well for the Super Timber? I run a dual blade on my turbo timber and i was wondering if you have experimented with a similar setup on the Super. Great videos as always! Thanks!
Not offhand, but someone on our Discord server might be able to help: bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
Thanks!
Hello, I wonder how does this Timber compare with the FMS 1700 Cub you've recently reviewed ? Better value overall ?
The Cub is much less capable overall, but is significantly less expensive.
Awesome video! We love the Super Timber!
Us too!
This super timber or the 2.0m SWS??? Which one if u could have only one??
Fortunately that isn't a choice we've gotta make!
Could rc shock absorbers be used to replace the springs? Thinking that would reduce the bounce.
Possibly.
I wish they would use this technology and construction on a decent airplane.
This is a decent airplane.
You gotta land it like a warbird. No flare. Just control speed of decent
We didn't have issues landing it lol
I have a timber x, I can barely do 3D, it’s fun 😊
You can definitely learn though.
So its a big timber x with inflatible wheels basiclly?
A Timber X with bigger wings and wider chord so it flies way better.
What radio is shown there at the end of the video?
IX20SE: bit.ly/3BI3eBD
Tires are filled up with air to much. Soften them up and no bounce. Same with FMS Super Cub 1.3m. Soft for pavement, a little firmer for grass.
HH recommends more air for pavement which is why we had ours inflated there. Good tip though.
I know you love the ec1500, and I was thinking that would be my next plane, but this has me rethinking that. Flight characteristics wise, which do you like better? I fly kind of like you and like some 3d/ XA capability even in a sport plane.
The EC is an awesome cargo/3D hybrid, but this is definitely a better all-round airframe in our view. The EC is incredible but it doesn't offer the same versatility that the Super Timber does. The massive wheels make a big difference. The EC can't be flown from anything but short grass, dirt, and pavement, while the ST can fly almost anywhere.
Super Timber landing bounce. At speed in full cruise the aircraft is trimmed to hold the nose up. At slower speed the aircraft drops the nose due to less lift. When landing a tail dragged simply release all elevator back pressure at the moment of tire contact and the aircraft weight will keep it glued to the runway. Timing is the key.
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Hope you make another video of this bird in the future. It will be interesting to see what you change. I followed your advice on the upgraded props for the twinber and it turned it into a totally different plane! In a good way!
Definitely will do a follow-up - most likely on a direct comparison between it and the Timber Evo. Happy to hear our advice helped!
It has been 4 days and I feel like we need another Super Timber video. Maybe compare it with the other Timbers.
In the future you'll see more of it!
What’s the discord link? Discord says it’s expired.
It should work, but try this one: discord.com/invite/aVqhtqV5ca
Video or it didn't happen 🤪
Uh what
Hi Jon. The servos on my Super Timber seem to be just ok. If you were going to upgrade the servos on your Super Timber, what servos would you go with? Thanks!
We'd use AGFRC B11DLS servos via tinyurl.com/B11DLS - the same ones we recommend for most 9g applications.
@@TwoBrosRC Thanks Jon. You are a valuable resource for the RC community.
Excellent review as always, Jon! I've always preferred the ol' poodle-nose over the anteater version. Gotta get one of these after I maiden my 2m Draco & 1.5m Twin Beech! 😁
You'll love it.
So how much will this cost batteries and transmitter all in
We definitely don't recommend this as your first airframe. Try an AeroScout instead - you'll save a lot of money.
The discord invite link says invalid/expired. Have an updated one @TwoBrosRC ?
Should be fixed now. We upgraded to a paid Bitly account just to redirect ya! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord