Nice video and reminded me of rebuilding by C60. Bearing failure was crazy! Toyota boxes usually very reliable. You scared me with the pry-bar on the case mating surfaces. Now need extra RTV. I used Toyota black, but when I took to dealer, the lead mechanic informed me I should have used gray for the gearbox/transmission. So-far so-good, but I do trust the Toyota guy and originally thought black replaced grey... I had the black from total engine rebuild on 2zz-ge. Cheers! P
Thanks for this! I used it as one of my references as I rebuilt my 535,000 km old C59 5 speed on the weekend. Now it's smooth and quiet again. Before it was sounding like a deep fryer at idle with the clutch out.
@@WeBuildStuff yes. The input shaft bearing on the 5th gear end was galled and loose. But I don't want to save a few bucks but then have to re-do a job this big early, so while I was in there, I replaced every bearing and seal with a USA Standard Bearing/ seal kit (excellent kit - same bearings as OEM - good for 325,000 km with non-synthetic oil - likely longer with the "good stuff"). I got lucky on the differential bearings. They're fit is adjusted with shims, but the OEM shim gave me zero play and light rolling friction (did this by feel), so I didn't have to fiddle with getting a bunch of shims at $40 each. Likely because they are the exact same bearings as OEM, they fit very close to the exact same. My total cost (replaced a mount, the rubber clutch line, part of the metal clutch line and a few other things was about $700 CDN. I could have bought a junk yard tranny for $750 and saved some time, but I wouldn't have the peace of mind I have knowing exactly the internal conditions and operation history of the transmission.
Good to see pepple taking on these jobs at home, some tips. When taping casings apart try not to use a screwdriver and tap where the bolt holes are that is the weakest point of the casting. You could have taken the bearing off the shaft without the gear would have been a lot easier. When undoing things push down on them so you are pushing your breaker bar and the gearbox into the bench,by pulling on it and lifting it you have to apply equal force just to hold it down before you even start to undo the fastener. Good on you for tackling this repair. You should also keep bearings in same orientation, fifth gear half cage rollers all bearings bed in and if you want them to last put them back the same. I allways replace all bearings as they are the same age and milage as the failed one. Lot of work to do it again if keeping the vehicle. Replace only damaged one if on tight buget or selling vehicle or own a car yard.
This was a budget project that ended up going over the cost I wanted but that was a live and learn lesson. Taking the gear off with the bearing was just because I had seen that done in 2 other tutorials and it wasn't that bad once we got setup. Either way I'm thrilled to be back on the road and could do this again a lot quicker on my own vehicle or someone elses😀 thanks for watching. I hope this video and comments section becomes a place that helps others
Nice job! I'd also upgrade and replace both bearings while ur in there!! I use a 10 tun hydraulic puller works great! Not worry on having anything spinning
Great video, very helpful. I have the same transmission and had similar noises. Turned out to be the same bearing so I guess this is a weak point on the transmission. 255k on the car so I guess I can't complain.
My gear assembly pulled out with the top case as the bearings were held in the case. My gears and shaft assembly parts somewhat fell apart. My reverse gear actuator arm pivot came out of the shaft arm that actuates the gear. When I pulled this shaft out singly, I did see a bearing drop onto the ground. Maybe more. Your note about the bearing hazard is right where my problem is. Where do they go if I get this back together? BTW, I still have not found my damaged bearing. I checked all the bearings in the case. Maybe it's buried on the gear shaft under one of the gears? Where did you get your source material for doing your rebuild? Do you have a C59 transmission service manual?
Looking back, would you recommend this to someone who knows very little about cars but is looking to gain more knowledge? I have already replaced my transmission TWICE now and just had my second one crap out after only 4 months of use. I want to try and take mine apart i have a garage to use and tools but very little knowledge. I really love this car, i have put a ton of work into restoring the body and getting everything all road legal only to have this issue keep coming up. do i just bite the bullet and replace the tranny for a third time and maybe replace the seals or do i go through the effort of trying to rebuild the one thats broken. Ugh so frustrating and i thought toyota was a good reliable car.
If it's already broke you cant make it too much worse! I did have to buy few tools like the pullers and bearing separater seen in the series but it did save me a ton of money and it only cost me my time and the replacement parts. Go slow and document your work with photos and notes so you remember how to put it back together. I rushed some steps and broke parts that required buying replacements. Things that would make this easier would be an air impact gun but I did "almost everything" using hand tools
Also.. since this unit is known to have this bearing issue.. what do you think about taking the original bearing and sending it to a commercial bearing supply specialist shop and tell them you want the absolutely positively best strongest bearings to replace these with..I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to get them.. that might be the way to go.
Nice job! I'd also upgrade and replace both bearings while ur in there!! I use a 10 tun hydraulic puller works great! Not worry on having anything spinning
Nice job! I'd also upgrade and replace both bearings while ur in there!! I use a 10 tun hydraulic puller works great! Not worry on having anything spinning
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Hands down the best instructional video on this subject on RUclips...great job man.
Nice video and reminded me of rebuilding by C60.
Bearing failure was crazy! Toyota boxes usually very reliable.
You scared me with the pry-bar on the case mating surfaces. Now need extra RTV. I used Toyota black, but when I took to dealer, the lead mechanic informed me I should have used gray for the gearbox/transmission.
So-far so-good, but I do trust the Toyota guy and originally thought black replaced grey... I had the black from total engine rebuild on 2zz-ge.
Cheers!
P
One year of driving and it's still going strong since the repair!
Good job Sir 😊🎉...my field is also the same. When u dismantling...i understood that u r also a perfect engineer 🎉. Take care.
Thanks for this!
I used it as one of my references as I rebuilt my 535,000 km old C59 5 speed on the weekend.
Now it's smooth and quiet again. Before it was sounding like a deep fryer at idle with the clutch out.
@@rondaniels9974 yes!!! Nicely done!!
@@rondaniels9974 did you replace any parts?
@@WeBuildStuff yes.
The input shaft bearing on the 5th gear end was galled and loose.
But I don't want to save a few bucks but then have to re-do a job this big early, so while I was in there, I replaced every bearing and seal with a USA Standard Bearing/ seal kit (excellent kit - same bearings as OEM - good for 325,000 km with non-synthetic oil - likely longer with the "good stuff").
I got lucky on the differential bearings. They're fit is adjusted with shims, but the OEM shim gave me zero play and light rolling friction (did this by feel), so I didn't have to fiddle with getting a bunch of shims at $40 each. Likely because they are the exact same bearings as OEM, they fit very close to the exact same.
My total cost (replaced a mount, the rubber clutch line, part of the metal clutch line and a few other things was about $700 CDN.
I could have bought a junk yard tranny for $750 and saved some time, but I wouldn't have the peace of mind I have knowing exactly the internal conditions and operation history of the transmission.
Good to see pepple taking on these jobs at home, some tips. When taping casings apart try not to use a screwdriver and tap where the bolt holes are that is the weakest point of the casting. You could have taken the bearing off the shaft without the gear would have been a lot easier. When undoing things push down on them so you are pushing your breaker bar and the gearbox into the bench,by pulling on it and lifting it you have to apply equal force just to hold it down before you even start to undo the fastener. Good on you for tackling this repair. You should also keep bearings in same orientation, fifth gear half cage rollers all bearings bed in and if you want them to last put them back the same. I allways replace all bearings as they are the same age and milage as the failed one. Lot of work to do it again if keeping the vehicle. Replace only damaged one if on tight buget or selling vehicle or own a car yard.
Good tips!
This was a budget project that ended up going over the cost I wanted but that was a live and learn lesson. Taking the gear off with the bearing was just because I had seen that done in 2 other tutorials and it wasn't that bad once we got setup. Either way I'm thrilled to be back on the road and could do this again a lot quicker on my own vehicle or someone elses😀 thanks for watching. I hope this video and comments section becomes a place that helps others
Nice job! I'd also upgrade and replace both bearings while ur in there!! I use a 10 tun hydraulic puller works great! Not worry on having anything spinning
Awesome upload bro please keep up the good work. My car makes the same noise. Now I know what the problem is.
Hope it's an easy fix!
Nice job. I would change both bearings while in there tho? I see the updated c60 bearing it should be availible aswell for the other side
Great video, very helpful. I have the same transmission and had similar noises. Turned out to be the same bearing so I guess this is a weak point on the transmission. 255k on the car so I guess I can't complain.
Awesome Instructions! Thanks!!!
Thanks for watching!
My gear assembly pulled out with the top case as the bearings were held in the case. My gears and shaft assembly parts somewhat fell apart. My reverse gear actuator arm pivot came out of the shaft arm that actuates the gear. When I pulled this shaft out singly, I did see a bearing drop onto the ground. Maybe more. Your note about the bearing hazard is right where my problem is. Where do they go if I get this back together? BTW, I still have not found my damaged bearing. I checked all the bearings in the case. Maybe it's buried on the gear shaft under one of the gears? Where did you get your source material for doing your rebuild? Do you have a C59 transmission service manual?
incredible!! thank you!!
From where can I get synchros for this exact transmission?
@@harwindsingh typed into my search engine and found this:
cobratransmission.com/C59-Standard-Parts-Search?page=2
@WeBuildStuff Thanks a lot for the quick response. You're a great person.
Excellent
Why are the gears locked when you try to spin them? Shouldnt they spin somewhat freely since theres is nothing holding on to the input shaft/diff?
Are you referring to when it was still assembled or after I removed everything?
Or are you meaning when i force 2 gears at once by pushing the 2 of shift rods into place?
When it was still assembled. Shouldnt it spin freely, even when in gear? Theres no resistance on either shaft or diff....maybe im confused.
Can you write the timestamp and I will check which section you are referring too?
@@WeBuildStuff 11:40 did my previous reply not post? My apologies. You engaged 5th and it locked. Im just asking out of general curiosity.
Looking back, would you recommend this to someone who knows very little about cars but is looking to gain more knowledge? I have already replaced my transmission TWICE now and just had my second one crap out after only 4 months of use. I want to try and take mine apart i have a garage to use and tools but very little knowledge. I really love this car, i have put a ton of work into restoring the body and getting everything all road legal only to have this issue keep coming up. do i just bite the bullet and replace the tranny for a third time and maybe replace the seals or do i go through the effort of trying to rebuild the one thats broken. Ugh so frustrating and i thought toyota was a good reliable car.
If it's already broke you cant make it too much worse! I did have to buy few tools like the pullers and bearing separater seen in the series but it did save me a ton of money and it only cost me my time and the replacement parts. Go slow and document your work with photos and notes so you remember how to put it back together. I rushed some steps and broke parts that required buying replacements. Things that would make this easier would be an air impact gun but I did "almost everything" using hand tools
Also.. since this unit is known to have this bearing issue.. what do you think about taking the original bearing and sending it to a commercial bearing supply specialist shop and tell them you want the absolutely positively best strongest bearings to replace these with..I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to get them.. that might be the way to go.
That would be the way to go for sure!
Nice job! I'd also upgrade and replace both bearings while ur in there!! I use a 10 tun hydraulic puller works great! Not worry on having anything spinning
Nice job! I'd also upgrade and replace both bearings while ur in there!! I use a 10 tun hydraulic puller works great! Not worry on having anything spinning